Will Pacquiao make Cotto fight at another catch weight?
June 30th, 2010
By Dave Lahr: I’m not even thinking about the Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao fight happening. I know it won’t. I see Bob Arum matching Pacquiao up against his plan B option, WBA light middleweight champion Miguel Cotto for a needless rematch. I see this fight taking place with another one of those god awful catch weights being involved, so that Pacquiao will have a handicap as he goes for his 8th world title. Last time Pacquiao fought Cotto, he had a similar handicap in going for Cotto’s WBO welterweight title.
It’s easy for the fighter that’s putting on weight to challenge a bigger fighter, but very difficult for a fighter to have to take off weight in order to fight someone at a smaller weight. With the ease of which Pacquiao beat Cotto last time, I would hope that he won’t use the catch weight again when he fights him in their likely rematch in November. I personally don’t recognize Pacquiao as having won the WBO title because of the catch weight that was involved. For me, I put a mental asterisk next to Pacquiao’s win over Cotto.
I recognize that he beat Cotto, but I don’t see Pacquiao as the champion because he didn’t fight Cotto at the full weight and had to put in the handicap to take the fight. If Pacquiao doesn’t want to fight at the full 154 for the light middleweight title, then he needs to stay down at welterweight and keep fighting guys like Joshua Clottey. But the last thing I want to see if Pacquiao fighting at a catch weight for yet another title. What is up with that. I know of no other fighter in the past that used a catch weight when going after titles. Doing it once is one thing, but going after two titles with catch weights?
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i hope pac never fights mayweather at 154 because he’s gonna make him like a big joke, like he did when he fought marquez!
see the pacman has the guts to challenge pretty boy floyd in a fight! but he doesn’t have the guts to go up in the correct weight! he always wants a girlie catchweight! what’s up with that? real men don’t fight in catchweights, they use the correct weights! have you ever heard great fighters like mike tyson asking for catchweights when he fights? he fought guys way bigger and heavier than him and beat em! you never hear him complaining, I want a catchweight! or else i’m gonna tell my momma! he just fights whatever’s put in front of him!
i hope pac never fights cotto at 154 in a rematch! because cotto’s gonna make pac’s other ear like salami! but, at a catchweight i’d go for pacquiao! drain em baby!
i hope pac never fights floyd! because you see pretty boy’s going to make the pacman’s face like punching bag like he did with mosley!
pu22ies are like DAVE LAHR
Catch weight’s are for pu$$ies.
Superstar Billy Graham
Again, Floyd takes your best ability and uses it against you. Pac is not that smart, just a busy fighter. Pac’s kryptonite is a defensive counter puncher. Who was the last fighter Pac fought that possessed these powers? What did Pac look like when facing this fighter?
Also Mayweather since beating Jab IMO has become more technical and careful with his placement of punches. As Pac will be throwing, Mayweather will be landing. Pac couldn’t even land on Clottey cleanly. Clottey’s defense is nothing that of Floyd’s. Floyd’s fought bigger, stronger and more accurate punchers than Pac. Again what makes the fight interesting to me is that Pac is a busy fighter with great endurance who fights at a southpaw stance.
Floyd’s defensive counter punching style welcomes an aggressive come forward style in Pac. Pac throws wildly, is off balance at times and fights out of retaliation. This is not wise when fighting Floyd who will bait Pac in (check hook city)……
Anyway, I’m not saying it will be a massacre, I’m just preparing people for something that wont be what they expect. Mayweather as he always gets bashed for will make this a boring, slow paced fight that in the end will be labeled as over hyped and possibly over priced. Floyd will then go on to be bashed more for fighting yet another “smaller” cherry picked fighter.
Superstar Billy Graham
I totally understand. I didn’t clarify what I meant. I was referring that Zab putting up a hell of a fight for 4 rounds VS Floyd. Which went back to my post stating that is why the fight will be interesting to me because Zab was beating Mayweather’s a** for 4 rounds and he’s a southpaw. So to me, Pac being a southpaw with endurance will make this fight interesting. Other than that, Pac doesn’t have the skills. But it will be interesting to see no doubt.
Zab is/was my of my all time favorites, he’s just not dedicated. Man when he did have his shyt together he was a bad dude.
ManROID only fights at catch weights or a fighter comin off a loss!
it dont matter if Mayweather ducks anyone because after November Pacquiao will have his last fight, Mayweather is riding on that! When Pacquiao retires Mayweather will be P4P king, What a coward!!!!!!!!!
@Superstar
I would love to watch it… but all this money talk and jacking up prices in some way is actually the reason why boxing is sooo frustrating..
With promoters worrying more about the dollar than actually matching boxers and show to the world what they are really made of…
So I just might skip this one….
But I can’t swear on it I suppose… if I was drunk that day, I might just pay…
I’m not paying $80 neither… LOL!
@Wess
You might not believe me, but if the fight does happen and Mayweather wins… I will be the first one to say it and accept it… You know why?
Because I actually think Pac has got something to bring on the table to make this an exciting fight…
Not a walk in the park as you think it is….
@Wess
I’m sorry but I don’t see fighting a bigger man exactly a cherry pick. They might see some weaknesses that they know they can take advantage of… but is that necessarily cherry picking? The little man fighting a big man isn’t exactly cherry picking on the smaller man’s side…
Let’s agree to disagree on this one becaue I don’t think i can convince you, and I don’t think you can convince me neither…
@Wes
I think my problem is that I don’t bash Mayweather so I don’t like it when people bash Pac.
As a boxing fan first, i agree that catch weights
do nothing but create big question marks for thoes
not willing to fight at the weight class required.
However, if both fighters agree to find themselves
in a made up weight class for a title belt, dont blame
the challenger, blame the title holder.
ok guys, still playing nice but I need a beer. This place is called boxing news 24, but it should actually be boxing gossip 24, because they rarely ever report factual anything. See, I even hate on the site itself. Imma equal opportunity hater see. Still being nice, ok.
I meant Velasquez @130
Superstar, i’m sorry. I will not bombard you with facs anymore. but i’m still screaming d@mn Pac/Floyd/Arum/Roach, rich greedy !ucks
@Wess
Just so you can see what Pac’s record says ok:
Opponent
Clottey – 147 Pac – 145.75
Cotto – 145 Pac – 144
Hatton – 140 Pac – 138
Dela Hoya – 145 Pac – 142
Diaz – 135 Pac – 134.5
Marquez – 130 Pac – 130
Barrera – 130 Pac – 130
Solis – 130 Pac – 128.75
Morales – 129 Pac – 129
Larios – 129 Pac – 129.5
Morales – 130 Pac – 128.5
Velasquez – 13- Pac – 130
Barrera – 126 Pac – 125
Lucero – 121.25 Pac – 122
Yeshmangbetov – 127 Pac – 126
So if your problem is the weight on fight night… it’s not Pac’s fault if he can rehydrate better….
Apart from Larios where he overweighed by .5lbs and Lucero where he overweighed by .75 lbs… where is your problem here?
Ok, I’ve changed my name from Oh Yeah Get Sum, Imma play nice in here tonight and not destroy Floyd and Pac fans with facts.
@Oh yeah get sum!
You want hard core truth..
Answer this, who has fought the lower division fighter more?
And read my post below for wess… I should put your heads together… you have the same arguments…
I Cosign,
Pac HAS IN FACT fought MORE smaller (meaning Pac weighted MORE than his opponent) fighters than Mayweather. That is a complete honest FACT that Pac fans love to overlook. They have a serious problem with being honest with FACTS, not distorted truths, but hard core FACTS!
Superstar Billy Graham, how many catch weight fights has Floyd had? Superstar Billy Graham, how many times in Floyd career has he come in over weight? Superstar Billy Graham, how many times in Floyd career has he come into the ring weighting less than his opponent? Superstar Billy Graham, how many of Pac last fights that he is given credit for come against guys that Floyd handed them either their first career defeat or Floyd just flat out defeated? Superstar Billy Graham, the guy who comes down in weight is always at the disadvantage true, so it is fair to say that has most recent string of victories he was at a complete advantage, so it’s not like he was destroying guys who were his equal, he destroyed guys who were disadvantaged, i. e. pac had the upper hand. How many fighters that are 35 years or older Floyd defeated in contrast to the accomplishments that pac has acheived fighting guys who come into the ring at a disadvantage or coming off of a loss?
@Wess
You make it sound so bad that Pac has outweight his opponents more than Mayweather has out weighed his opponents. But aren’t you forgetting that the measurement in boxing is the division?
So who has fought the lower division fighter more?
WESS,
run away, your getting owned!
@Anonymous
Change your name… too many anonymous down here…
@Wess
Work this out…
How many times did Pac pull someone from a lower division to go up and fight him?
How bout Mayweather?
mmmmm as you keep saying..
Sorry to ruin your agenda…..
i’ll give you another example ace.
floyds talked of fighting martinez, right. hes the champ at middleweight, 160lbs right.
now do you think if the fight happens it’ll take place at 160lbs or with all your intelligence do you think floyd will wave all his money round and bring martinez down to 154lbs?
i’ll let you work it out champ! and you’ll find theres no difference.
@Wess
So your saying that Pac was in the right to fight Hoya at 147? You don’t think Hoya got shut down at any other weight and was told that he would ONLY be able to fight Pac at 147?
- Hoya called him to fight at 147, if he refused you’d be saying he ducked right? And how is that his fault, he got called to fight Hoya.. BIG MONEY (so it’s okay for Mayweather to fight only for money but not Pac?). Atleast he still had to go up weight himself and challenge himself there. Let me ask you did you call this fight right?
Mayweather didn’t cheat. He didn’t weigh over 147 the WW limit. He paid 10% penalty because he couldnt make the 144 “agreed” limit. He NEVER came in over weight. Days before he came out and said he couldn’t make 144. JMM could have walked.
- You are a moron.. How is it not cheating when you signed a contract and not meet it. If he didn’t cheat then why did he have to pay for it in dollars? Stupid.. Make all the excuse just to turn a blind eye on what Mayweather did..
Mayweather JMM is no different than Pac Hoya. Hoya was way more destroyed than JMM because of weight. Get it right chief.
- But get this in your head dummy, Pac went up and Hoya went down. Marquez went up and Mayweather went up even more than what was agreed. Does that add up to you now?
Hey speaking of JMM, did you know Pac maybe interested in JMM BUT at 145 (I know thats new to me too)? That’s one pound over what him and Mayweather agreed too…. interesting huh?
- Stop crucifying pac for something that hasn’t happened yet. Do you want me to crucify Mayweather for considering Malignaggi and M. Hatton? It’s the same with all this PED stuff. No proof…
Why did team Pac agree to fight Hoya at 147 and not “too good” Mosley?
- So it’s okay for Mayweather to fight tune up fights (Marquez) to fight at a division that he’s been in for so long but Pac has to straight away fight the top guy in a new division that he hasn’t fought yet by the time Mosley asked him?
Why did team Pac agree to fight Clottey at 147 and not Cotto (they wanted him at 145)?
- Same comment as above. He wasn’t a full welter then so what’s wrong with trying to get used to the division. And if your argument is he plays at catchweight, guess what Mayweather did it too and even more embarassing, he cheated.
Why did team Pac agree to face Foreman at 154 but want Cotto (they want him at 150-151)?
- Did Pac fight Foreman? No he didn’t dummy… What was the reason why the said they weren’t going to fight him? Becaue Pac’s team admitted that Foreman is too big. And Cotto’s fight still hasn’t happened, until it happens then he hasn’t fought another catchweight yet.
Why is that guy? Why is “Money” Manny “Ms DIVA Pac-Man” Pacquia the Diamond Belt catchweight king?
- How many catchweights again? 1.. same as Mayweather…
FYI: Pac has IN FACT fought more “smaller” fighters than Mayweather. (sorry to ruin your agenda guy)
- Smaller… ok.. lower division than him? hahahah.. Mayweather fought more fighters in a lower division than him compared to pac so sorry to ruin your agenda….
WESS,
f**k u r a mappet!
de la hoya offered 147 because a) he had multiple world titles at that weigh class and b) it was the only weigh where the 2 could perceivably meet!
pacquiao had only 1 fight at 140lbs the rest were at 135 and below. did u really think he was gonna go from 140 to 154?! just about everyone and i mean EVERYONE thought the fight was a joke at 147 in favour of de la hoya. REMEMBER!
it doesnt surprize me that a s**t talker like u would think pacquiao should hav gone from 140 (which at the time was believed to being his maximun) to 154!
mayweather didnt cheat???? the 147lb welterweight limit has nothing to do with the mayweather/marquez bout!
a catchweight bout like this is what it is pal! catchweights hav nothing to do with regular weight limits, thats why they are called CATCHWEIGHTS IDIOT!
144lbs was the agreed weight, right. we agree, yes. that floyd mayweather couldnt drop a whopping 3lbs! from his regular and then effectively payed marquez off with only days from the fight was a disgrace.
yeah marquez, agreed. who wouldnt? hes a warrior and fought on.
NOTE: marquez could only master 142lbs when gaining 7lbs from his normal 135lbs. ur telling me floyd couldnt drop 3 f**ken lbs??!!!
as for your other tirads. dude, i dont totally disagree with some of those comments. im a boxing follower at the end of the day. but its no different than the hustling floyd is renowned for.
WESS,
f**k ur a laugh!
if ur gonna sling s**t then at the very least GET IT RIGHT!
de la hoya and golden by asked pacquiao for the fight at 147! pacquiao just accepted it!
and how many fights has pacquiao had at a catchweight? 1. the same as mayweather with the difference being pacquiao didnt come in overweight!
get ur facts right pal, cos u made others that arent in the no DUMBER!
Leonard-Lalonde catchweight for two wbc belts. That was even more disgusting.
whether it be floyd or who else it only takes a little bit of skill and excellent condtioning to beat pac he a one dimensional fighter and thats all he coudnt adapt to the a44 kicking marquez or morales put on him he was just brawling
Bro David hows your new mansion and a BMW because of your articles?
leave what alone cintron? you’re name is a quitters name!
Just leave it alone Rhey, just leave it alone.
the ball is in floyds court now. let’s see what kind of excuse he’s gonna come up with.
Ps: I am not a Pacman fan really, hehe
U say:
“personally don’t recognize Pacquiao as having won the WBO title…
plus
“For me, I put a mental asterisk next to Pacquiao’s win over Cotto.”
Are you high?
U are just a writer.
Who cares about ur bias-based comments?
U are a pacMan hater.
U did a good article but That 2 comments were too awful and arrogant from ur part.
U are a Mayweather man, right?
manny pacquiao is the most overated boxer ever
@ JoeDaWg, sorry, I wasn’t saying that mayweather didn’t have any advantages, he actually had all the advantages in that fight, but as far as weight is concerned, he didn’t use it to muscle marquez around ala Andre Ward in the Green fight, but as far as size speed strength age height reach weight and boxing iq, mayweather had every advantage, i didn’t see that fight as anything more than a glorified tune up match…
@rhey the dummy, I am a boxing fan, I’m not stuck on mayweather/pacquiao, there are other options for both fighters that I would pay to see….since Pacquiao is the ring magazine champ @140, still, after only one fight there…he could fight any of the top guys at 140(Bradley Maidana, Alexander), and id watch it, a mayweather fight with martinez Williams berto would also be good matches….
pacquiao if u fight cotto…be fair no more catchweights, bums, guys that come from a lost, or dehydrated fighters
@ JOEDWANG, i would not have had a problem with cotto/pacquiao at a.catchweight, but for a title fight, where Manny was the challenger? That’s plain and simple bs, and with the mayweather fight, he did weigh two pounds more at the weigh in and probably much more on fight night, but he didn’t use the weight as an advantage, he boxed the ears off marquez from the outside,
Breaking News!!!!!! Fight will not happen, Arum wants it to be a catch weight fight at 87 pounds.
@ rhey, you just proved that you know nothing about boxing, you’re not a fan of the sport, just a fan of Pacman….you said cotto was not forced to put his belt on the line at a catchweight, and you are completely incorrect, when negotiations first started, cotto declined the catchweight, then the WBO, made Pacquiao his mandatory #1 contender, and said either you fight him for the belt at the catchweight or we strip you of the belt…..how’s that for boxing politics, he had 1 fight @ 147 with de la hoya, who wasn’t a.ranked welterweight, then all of a sudden he’s the #1 contender for a welterweight belt, that’s B.S.
Pacquiao has been putting fight night weight stipulations, since the de la hoya fight, look at the Joshua Clottey fight, he looked sick, and dehydrated. He was even complaining about getting the runs, Clottey has always been considered a big welterweight mainly because he weighs above 160 on fight night, Clottey was never hurt in that fight, and had he been able to re hydrate himself he would have done much better…mayweather won’t go for that, I think if they do fight,mayweather might.be around 155-158……
I Cosign that fact
They’ll only fight Marquez a third time at 145.
Foolish Sucka, man you can’t be smaking pac fans around like that in here lmao, man you hitting them with too much at one time, i demand that you stop it right now lol.
Rofl, I’m making it up?
Go ahead and look it up, straight out of Freddie Roach’s mouth: They’ll only fight Marquez a third time at 145.
That’s a pound heavier than the 144 that Mayweather-Marquez was scheduled for, and only a pound less than what Mayweather came in at, 146.
So wahhh wahhh, you guys are complaining about Mayweather-Marquez at 144?
And now Phagiao wants another catchweight for a 154 belt?
POOOSSSSY FAIL-APINO, just like the Fail-apino troops that ran like cowards from Al-Qaeda in Iraq.
Since I’m on a roll, how about one more gem that Phagtards don’t even know (or want to hide):
In his defense of the WBC Flyweight Championship:
PHAGIAO CAME IN OVERWEIGHT AND LOST HIS TITLE ON THE SCALES.
Boohoo, little ‘NoyNoy, care to explain that one?
You’re whining about Mayweather coming in overweight against Marquez, when PHAGIAO NOT ONLY DID THE SAME THING BUT ALSO LOST HIS BELT BECAUSE OF IT?
Remember, Mayweather has won belts as high as 154 and has NEVER needed a catchweight to do so.
Whereas, Phagiao has LOST A BELT ON THE SCALES FOR COMING IN OVERWEIGHT and has NEVER OR CHALLENGED FOR A BELT ABOVE 140 WITHOUT A CATCHWEIGHT.
Who’s pound for pound now ‘NoyNoy?
Wah, you Phagtards are so obvious.
You guys keep bringing up Marquez-Mayweather.
Hey dippshhits, THAT WASN’T FOR A BELT.
Phagiao-Cotto was for a belt.
And Miguel was the champion, being forced to put his 147 belt on the line at a lower catchweight because the challenger, Phagiao, needed…..
wait, why did he need a catchweight?
Phagtards try to claim that he needed a catchweight because he still needed to ‘adjust to 147.’
But….wait…he fought De La Hoya at a regular 147 limit….
ONE YEAR BEFORE.
Can you Phagtards explain that one?
Hey bro. Lahr, writing above article is your smokescreen of expressing your dislikes or hathred against Pacman – as usual. How about your boy Floyde fighting Marquez intentionally over-weighing Marquez 2-3 pounds, to get more advantage aside from his height, age, and reach. This is beyond my wildest imagination, if you write an article about it. Come on bro. Be real and fair as well as objective, for once, which you are not at this time of your biased writing career. You have a long way to be an objective writer. So, start working on it, bro.
If you say to all pilipino to weak-up and open your eyes, it will never happened in a million years. Just like more people blame Josep Estrada, that he kick the US Base in the Philippines, how the hell did it happened, he is only a Mayor at the time, The President in that country that time is Corazon Aquino, And the US Base agreement lapse, the Congress don want to extend the Agreement. You see the Agreement in The US Base in the Philippines is One hundred Years but in Marcos time it was change to give favor to the pilipino people. In my Anlysis Theirs a politician in that country see that they could make more money if they could get the US Base for free, and it happened after that, US Base are all sold to the highes bidder. One question who are those people, Not Joseph Strada.
Pacloid win because he give money to the poor people before the election, but if you look closer its another way of buying a vote, and pacloid will come out clean, just only stupid, no brain, brain dead dont see it. All pilipino worship pacloid, because he has more money, but if you look in the event that he lose to morales, when he came back in his country no one greet him. If you provide something to those poor people in the philippines they will do anything for you, its like who ever have money thats the person they will go. Its like the history say from the spanish rule to the Japanese all the way to United States.
Anyone can be a politician in the philippines its only a matter of money talk. A person who’s selling a peanut in the corner of a street and graduate in elementary,can became a president, senator or congressman if it happened that suddenly he became a millionaire. You dont need a brainer to became a politician in the phillipines all you need is lot of money and after that you could hire an adviser to do the work for you. When did you hear that those politician did really good in that country, except sit in their ass for the time of their carrier. Got that JACK.
pacquiao would do anything to have an advantage, nothing but a phukin bit**, phuc pacman and his team there all pu$$ies
Will you, Dave Lahr, predict another cotto win over pacquiao? the worst boxing blogger on the web…..lol….when are you quit the hate and learn to congratulate, man??? just stfu and learn how to write objectively…
@ anonymous: Wow that’s a jaw dropping point about the clause of a maximum weight fight night. This happened last fight? How would this information be available to see or is kept as a dirty little secret? If that is in fact true than Manny will be a great politician lmao. It’s a shame that fighters can’t fight like Cotto… take on all without any advantages, never clinch, keep it clean (for the most part lol), no excuses, & always confident not arrogant.
its funny how he talks about pacquiao but doesn’t mention mayweather fighting marquez. mayweather couldnt even make weight. he made marquez come up from 131 to 145 and also if mayweather is so damn good why couldnt he comedown to 140? he didnt even want to weight himself before the match
@ James I think you and Alex are butt buddies, same quote on two different blogs, atleast be original when saying something stuid. The writer in this case is dead on if Pac could beat Cotto so easily why make him fight at 144 instead of 147 for a 147 belt. Dead on Writer!!!!! Pac is tarnishing this sport and should fight valuev next!!!!!LOL……
yeah manny will want a catch weight, he needs to fight boxers at their weight
finally some 1 told the true..pacman is not great catchweight who the f..k came up with this..floyd does the same u had marques come up from 130 to 145 then he say i fight nothing but the best…lol yea the best at lower weight this boxing thing is fake..and fighter now call all the shots f..k both manny and floyd fake champion
- Will Pacquiao make Cotto fight at another catch weight?
- Will David Liar stop writing about nothing?
@DAVE
REAL GOOD ARTICLE NOT BECAUSE IM A COTTO FAN CAUSE I ALSO LIKE MANNY&FLOYD BUT THAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE CATCHWEIGHTS ARE REAL BAD FOR THE FIGHTER THAT IS GOING DOWN IN WEIGHT EXPECIALY A FIGHTER LIKE COTTO WHO HAD BEEN IN SOME REAL TOUGH FIGHTS.
BOTH MANNY AND FLOYD HAD GOTTEN USED TO GETTING THINGS THERE WAY SMALL GUYS HAVING TO COME UP BIG GUYS HAVING TO GO DOWN.AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY THERE FIGHT WILL NEVER HAPPEN WE AS FANS HAVE ALLOW THESE 2 FIGHTER TO GET CREDIT FOR FIGHTING OPPONENTS THAT ARE NOT AT THERE BEST PHYSICALLY.
Did Cotto ask Yuri Foreman for a catchweight? No I think not! Cotto is 5.6’1/2 5.7′ and is considered a small welterweight and challenged a junior middleweight champion at full weight.
i like the sound of Manny Pacquiao 8 weight world champion !!!
surely that would consolidate his legacy as P4P no.1 if he doesnt fight Floyd Mayweather Jr
what do u think about :
Pacman Vs Sergio martinez ?
Mayweather Vs Kelly Pavlik or sergio martinez ?
Mayweather Vs Paul Williams ?
dave liar is always telling the truth.
creed… the only thing that is standing in the way of this fight is Arum, Koncz, and Ariza… all are chews replace the ch with the j and all truly do not care about pacman they just care about the payoff… mark this down… pacman will someone die in a tragedy when he is no long making money for anyone…just like anna nicole, michael jackson, arturo gatti…. at some point everyone becomes worth more dead than alive just ask tupac and biggie
Good article and true in all aspects, finally Dave you got it right! If Cotto agrees to a catchweight then what ever happens to him in Pacs favor then he deserves it for agreeing to the concessions. THis is comming from a Cotto fan. The last fight was truly a a junior welterweight fight in the guise of welterweight with the catchweight, its was what a junior welter weighs in at the night of the fight 148-150 after the official weigh-in of 143 anf 145. This time aroumd I put money the catchweight is going to be somewhere around 150-151 which is what pac weighed(150) in the nite of the last fight as well as Cotto. they may allow Cotto to weigh exactly 153-154 for the nite of the fight cause they’ll be clauses in his contract that us the boxing public wont know about that if Cotto weighs more then that he’ll be fined just like in the previous fight. So if this re-match takes place then it will be more likely a welterweight fight then junior middle because the weigh will be manipulated to what a welterweight weighs in for the night of the fight after the official weigh-in. Hardcore boxing public needs to wake up to all the B/S and stop getting taken like a casual boxing fan who knows absolutely nothing of how the boxing game actually works.
lol of course he is and then they will make a big deal that he won the middleweight title at 115 pounds lol exaggeration…. last time they fought it was a joke… manny says he doesnt fight for the titles but for his fans is bs… he was ready to back out against cotto bc cotto refused to pay the sanction for his belt bc it wasnt a real welterweight fight which should have been at 147… but arum his great promoter chose pacman obviously bc cotto is done… so cotto will get screwed again and be forced to fight at 105lbs for the super heavy weight title and all the nurses and dialysis techs in the world will brag about how their hero is the greatest
I agree the fight should never be at a catch weight for a title. I also agree no matter who, what, & where every fighter should have to take a drug test period! I honestly don’t think the weight effected Cotto that drastically he was weight drained at welterweight regardless. Manny & Roach went after Cotto simply because Roach recognized he wasn’t the same after Margarito’s tampered fist. “It was never proven” but I disagree look at the Mosley – Cotto fight, Cotto Margarito, & Mosley – Margarito fight. Mosley is clearly stronger, landed clean shots on Cotto & his face or chin wasn’t effected nearly as much when he fought AM. After that fight then plus getting rid of Evangalist Cotto was lost mentally with little to no guidance phycologically. I like Manny but don’t trust polations. Take a test, make the weight, & fight all like Cotto then you’ll be a true champion win or lose. IMO a catch weight at at 154 wouldn’t hurt Cotto because he hasn’t got used to the weight yet. He looked a little over weight in the Yuri bout. Also we all know Manny wants to maintain that speed of his.
OF COURSE HE WILL, AFTERALL HE IS THE CATCHWIEGHT KING NOT THE P4P KING
PACQUIAO WILL ABSOLUTELY DEMAND A CATCHWEIGHT, AND STILL CALL IT A TITLEFIGHT….
ANYTHING DIFFERENT, ROACH AND PACQUIAO WILL CALL IT YOUR FAULT!!!
Another reason why Pacquiao is a fraud.
Dave Lahr is a known unethical writer. He tries hard to cut down Pacquiao, regardless of the truth. Don’t take him seriously.
This writer has something in common with Mayweather. They are both scared to face Pacquiao, the only guy they can has the capacity to put a blemish on Mayweather’s infamous unbeatedn record. That is why this writer is writing about things that is assuming that the Mayweather -Pacquiao negotiations will fall – hopefully in his mind. Ooooh, scared of Manny, the little diminutive Duracell from the Philippines.
ITS NOT THE WEIGHT IT THE DRUGS STUPID
Better pacgirl fight with skirt on.
Rofl, so?
That’s all you Phagtards can come up with?
“So?”
LOL, how obvious is it that you Phagtards know NOTHING about boxing.
This is supposed to be the P4P contender?
135: David Diaz? LOL.
140: Ricky Hatton? LOL.
145: Catchweight for Miguel Cotto even though Phagiao had already fought De La Hoya at a regular 147 limit ONE YEAR EARLIER?
150? 151?: Catchweight again for Miguel Cotto for a 154 belt?
That’s the P4P champ? Are you kidding me?
Phagiao has NEVER challenged or for that matter, has NEVER won a belt above 140 without a catchweight.
Think about that.
commision has rules sert up for championship fights yet manny keeps fighting at catch weights for belts. floyd gets critisised for making his own rules yet manny gets to do it all he wants with no issues and no one reams him for continuing to fight bumb washed up apponents.
@foolish.. so?
stupid writter!!!
Already been confirmed by Koncz, Phagiao’s rent boy, that they’re pursuing talks with Cotto for his 154 belt, but at a 150 to 151 catchweight.
I’m sure the Phagtards can justify that one.
SMH.
Catchweight chump.
Dave I couldn’t agree more!!! Catch weights are a joke, they knew Cotto was dangerous and they didn’t have the balls to fight him for his WBO belt at 147. Instead they forced him to dip an extra 3lbs and I think this is what caused him to struggle.
I am not saying that I think Cotto would have won the fight if it had been at 147, I am just saying we will never know and that the fighter listed as the current pound-for-pound king shouldn’t be doing this sort of thing. Surely the title means he is the best and he only wants to fight the best at their best.
PacMan could get away with letting Clottey fight at 147 because all you have to do is not stop throwing punches and he will spend the entire night hiding behind his guard throwing very little back. That and he looks massive for the weight so it looks even more impressive for the PacMan.
If this is about just winning another title for the PacMan before he hangs up the gloves then they will force Cotto into a catch weight fight. If it’s about being the best then fight at 154 and go after Martinez, he is the real Champ at 154.
Sorry people just getting a little bored with the PacMan, he is starting to believe his own hype.
He should stay at 147, put Cotto’s WBO belt on the line and fight the Pretty Boy. Take the blood tests prove he’s clean and accept in terms of PPV Mayweather is the bigger attraction, take the 60-40 split.
Pac didnt make Cotto fight at a catch weight. during negotiations Cotto had the choice to say no to the catch weight. obviously Cotto felt he could beat Pac at that weight. I guess he was wrong….either way Cotto signed when he didnt have to….
u need to get off “my” nuts
edgar cintron: maybe to much Cintron (Centrum) causes your delusional thoughts man. Stop taking sh*t bro. peace!
@ mutchie: yow man.. maybe your one of those FLoyd’s nutthugger idiopathic schizoprenic fan.. I feel bad for you man. It’s time to drink your medications man. Maybe it’ll help you.
mutchie you sound so bitter and full of hatred towards pacquiao. its known to the whole world that pacquiao wants to fight floyd so bad,it’s floyd that keep stalling and bringing out crazy demands.
I REALLY HOPE COTTO HAS THE SENSE TO MAKE HIM TAKE THE TEST !!!
I BELIEVE PAC MAN IS A FALSE PROPHET WHO WONT FIGHT FLOYD BECAUSE HE NEEDS HIS PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS TO WIN …
AND IF HE WANTS COTTO,S TITLE HE SHOULD FIGHT AT 154 POUNDS -
@edgar cintron
you’re one if those guys that criticized pacman when he beat cotto at 145 and said that pacquiao should fight him at full147.now he might fight him at a weight over 147 and you’re still complaining? stop hating on pacquiao.
Very well stated Dave. If Pac-man wants the Jr. middle weight 8th title then 154 it is. Cotto’s not stupid, there is always something up those sleeves of the quiet ones. 154 is and will always be Cotto’s comfortable weight. Cotto will only demolish Pac-man if Pac-man fights him “clean” and at 154!
what is wrong if pacquiao fights cotto above 147 ?
mayweather the catchweight king fought marquez at a catchweight then cheated him.
i like dave liar, he’s an honest writer.
I totally agree. Great article
Cotto has only fought at 154 lbs once. So it won’t be an issue for him if a catch weight (if it is true) is agreed upon. Cotto would be amenable to it as he will have more speed at a lower weight.
im kinda stumped how no one seems to remember that PAC FOUGHT JMM AT A CATCHWEIGHT; Pac had to shed a some weight off to come in within the weight limit to fight JMM.
lol if i was cotto and the fight was at a catch weight..i would just come in over like PBF did against JMM.
168, 154, 140, etc. These are the legit catchweights. Those divisions were created for this purpose. Any weight besides the weights created out of the originals are bogus. I give mp credit for the win but he didn’t beat a WW. Catchweights are for suckers willing to fight a big name guy for a big paycheck. Of the opponent is not a big name they would never take a the catch weight fight
catchweights are for sissies! now you listen here mr pacquaio. if you consider yourself to be the best in the sport and the number one pound for pound fighter, then fight pound for pound!!!!! not at no freakin catchweight! Are you serious? Man up manny and start fighting these guys at their normal weight. That’s my word, if manny fought cotto again at 154 and with no tricks up his slevees, cotto would eat that ass up!!! GUARANTEE!!!!!! you aint the pound for pound king, that title belongs to roy jones jr!!! now that’s a real p4p champ!
what a fabricated information… the author exaggerates things. it was 145 not 144, a pound below Cotto’s last official weign in. The 144 number was the catch weight in
which Mayweather officially signed with Marquez which Mayweather did no honor and instead came in at 146. And that’s a fact.
If cotto wants to fight Manny at 154lb, then a catchweight is eminent. if welterweight, then 147 is going to be the weight.
@Top Rank..I didnt pay for the Clottey fight and I wont pay for a Cotto rematch…..Margarito???? Actually I might.Despite the shame he’s brought on the sport,he is tough as hell and throws 1,000 punches a fight.
Mannys advisor Koncz has alreay said it would have to be at a catchweight.Within the last couple days.
here we go again! Pacman fan,DAVE LAHR? bwahahaha
How about Floyd’s win against JMM? 2-lb overweight.. that sounds more disgusting