Why should Mayweather agree to a 50-50 deal with Pacquiao?
June 21st, 2010
By Dave Lahr: The latest news going around is that Manny Pacquiao won’t agree to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. unless he gets a 50-50 split of the revenue for the fight. In an article at Philstar.com, Pacquiao says “If it’s going to be a 50-50 split, the fight will definitely push through. Right now, it’s not yet clear. He’s afraid to fight me.” Mayweather is rumored to want a 60-40 deal, which I feel is more than fair because of his huge popularity in the boxing world and his better pay per view numbers compared to Pacquiao. This isn’t charity, you know. Mayweather shouldn’t agree to fight Pacquiao on equal terms when he’s not showing that he’s equal to him in getting paying eyeballs to watch the fights.
I’d be curious to see what Pacquiao’s numbers would be if he was to fight Mosley. Of course, we won’t know that because Pacquiao won’t fight him. Instead, we’ll see Pacquiao go ahead and fight a rematch with Miguel Cotto if the Mayweather fight doesn’t happen. He’ll go over old ground by fighting Cotto again and likely bring in poorer numbers. It doesn’t make sense. Pacquiao will make less money for the Cotto rematch than if he was to agree to the 40% that Mayweather is offering.
If it was me, I’d gladly take the 40% offered to me and be happy about it. That’s good money and all the popularity Pacquiao will get by fighting Mayweather will be well worth it. That’s far better than to go and fight Cotto again in a fight that pretty much nobody wants to see. Pacquiao wants to get another title, but why doesn’t he take on someone else instead of fighting Cotto again.
Given that Mayweather did twice the PPV numbers as Pacquiao did recently, I think Mayweather deserves the 60-40 deal with Pacquiao. The numbers should probably be even more tilted in Mayweather’s favor to show his better PPV numbers, something along the lines of 65-35. I think that’s a better deal. Mayweather is doing Pacquiao a favor by giving him 40%. Maybe I could have overlooked Pacquiao’s past poorer PPV numbers in his fights if he had at least gotten ones recently in his last fight, but 700,000 doesn’t get the job done. Maybe he could have gotten better numbers had his promoter Bob Arum picked a popular fighter for Pacquiao to go up against rather than choosing one of his own fighters from his stable Joshua Clottey. I saw that as a bad move as soon as the fight was announced. I knew it was going to mess things up for Pacquiao by him not getting good PPV numbers, and boy was right.
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Mayweather to be regarded as the best should fight and win over the best. That is why he should fight Pacman because Manny is the current draw in this fight being the current pound for pound king and the best fighter in the world. We should never forget that fact!
between the two it should be a 50/50 split both fighters brings in crowd. Floyd talks all the stuff about a blood test now pacman agrees to it now he’s talking about a 60/40 split. c”mon man stop talkin in circles and take the fight if you pound for pound the best in the world forget the money and prove yourself. you got rocked in the second round in shane fight now everybody see your weakness you can’t take punches in side. you have no loses 60/40 you are a big joke and if anybody thinks thats a deal you are a joke 4real you don’t know sh$t about boxing at all. Pacman is a dynomite fighter he ain’t complaining about the money or anything else like your pound 4 pound fighter he wants to fight him (money) making it hard retired or fight one or the other.
He should agree to a 50-50 deal because (unlike a fight against Williams, Cotto, Clotty, Angulo, Berto, Cintron, or Spinks) this is a fight he CAN win. He has ever advantage a fighter of his style needs to win this fight it shouldn’t even be difficult.
I know floyd is not as quick or skilled as a young pernell whitaker, but we should expect this fight to look like sweet pea vs. jc chavez. This is fight will help floyd continue to run from his competitors while earning him his biggest payday ever. Not to metion the foolish writters at RING are planning on give their p4p title to the winner of this fight.
Assuming that floyd has any self-confidence what so ever, he has no excuse not to jump all over the oppurtunity to fight the flyweight.
I think floyd is just in the sport for the money and he knows he is going to lose to the PACMAN he will get Knockedout STOP BEEN A WIMP MONEY MAYWEATHER you never lost but you know u will this time
I for one agree moneyweather junior should get 60/40. it will take more expensive reconstructive surgery to fix juniors face once pacman is done tearing his ugly face.
I AM A BIG FAN OF **MAYWEATHER** BUT I HAVE 2 BE HONEST I THINK HE IS REALLY SCARED FOR THE FIRST TIME
MAYWEATHER IF YOU READ THIS FIGHT THE MAN AND PROVE THAT YOUR THE BEST EVERY BOXER THAT WANTS 2 BE THE BEST FIGHT THE BEST AND IF YOU DON’T WANT 2 BOX THIS GUY JUST SAY SO THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEEN SCARED BEEN SCARED IS PART OF NATURE WHAT IS NOT PART OF NATURE IS LIEING 2 YOUR SELF AND YOUR** FANS*
batang tondo, i agreed but wounds wouldn’t heal for seven days.it would be painful at 600 feet/per sec. hit.there should be a rematch to get at least 40 million for pac if he wins which i think he will by god’s will.
hey dave lahr, my friend and best pal. why is your article relegated to the bottom of the page? something to do with mr. lucero’s article making yours look like written by a little kid? that’s so unfair of them. didn’t they realize that you are a kid at heart and soul? that you still want to suckle yo’ momma’s titties this late in your adult life? didn’t they know that your articles make people laugh at you? you entertain readers with your follies. and that’s priceless.keep writing davey, my lad.so your finally getting breast milk from your mama, huh? tell me about it next time
Why? Because Pacman deserves 50/50. Floyd blasts out so much smoke, even the scribes bow down. Not that I think Floyd will ever grow the stones to step in the ring with Manny, but just in case, this is a 50/50 fight. Floyd won’t get near that $ with anyone else… and he knows it (but won’t admit it).
Pacquiao needs to fight Mayweather and negotiate with all Mayweather demands. A 58-42 split for Mayweather and cutoff of 7 days random blood and urine testing should make the fight happen. It’s the last fight for Pacquiao worth watching. Any other Pacquiao fights will not enhanced his legacy. Margarito, cheater, Cotto, not the same anymore after Margarito fight. Marquez, not a good fighter at 147 and already a declining old fighter. Do it Manny and make the fight happen, and dedicate it with all the Filipinos watching. A win is a legacy to treasure for a long time. $20 million is already a lot of money. You do not need to ask for more. If the best fighter 30 years ago lived in today’s generation, I’m pretty sure he will fight Mayweather for free to be the best fighter ever. Wake up Manny. (Gumising ka, kabayan). It’s now or never fight…
To say Mayweather or Pacquiao are ATG’s is a real stretch. Nonetheless Mayweather is the bigger draw. Period.
Mayweather is not even a great fighter that belongs to the elite class of Pacquiao because he is a ducker, a cherry picker or whatever you call him when he avoided great fighters like Margarito or Cotto and now Pacquiao. He needs to win over the best fighters to be regarded as the best. This is what Pacquiao has been doing to deserve the P4P IBO ring magazine title. Fighting great boxers a lot bigger than him also got him the Fighter of The Decade award, not to mention 3 consecutive years of being the fighter of the year. Of course, Mayweather had to downplay these awards as just, “titles” because none of it was his. Unlike Pacquiao, Mayweather fought aging fighters like Marquez who had to go up two division weights rendering him no fighting chance at all. And to make certain of a victory, Mayweather was still so scared enough to cheat Marquez of 2 pounds to be heavier above the agreed weight limit. Now, do you see any greatness in Mayweather for him to get 60% of the Pacquiao fight? I do not think so! Pacquiao was kind enough to ask for a 50-50 split when Pacquiao should be getting the 60% But of course everybody knows Mayweather is into boxing because of the money, nothing else. Unlike Mayweather, Pacquiao lives up to face incredible challenges to make the boxing world exciting again.
a 40/40 split and the other 20% to the winner, can’t get any fairer than that, should be the way all boxing bouts should be. pac is becoming greedy now, mayweather was always greedy, thats what seperated both, same when it came to hatton and pac, he became greedy again and put fight in doubt, any 1 agree with idea???
@ Dave Lahr
We get it! Mayweathers your boyfriend! Get off the sack already!
Dave Lahr = Manuel Perez = very biased writer! This writer has never written any good thing about Pac. Now, when I read his name, I don’t read his articles. Change your career, Dave or Manuel, whatever. That’s my 2 million advice, not 2 cents. Cheer.
Horrible article by a horrible writer.
Do us a favor and find another hobby son
To be honest i think that the deal should be 90-1 for floyd mayweather because WHO THE HELL IS MANY PACQUIO, IS THAT EVEN A REAL NAME ???
FAIL: 35-65 is a joke. Don’t even attempt to degrade a living legend and P4P king like Manny in that way. 50/50 is just fine. Both fighters have something that the other wants. Lets get it on!
what part of “if f mayweather makes another demand then he is afraid to fight” didn’t you understand?
your articles are nothing but a fan shoutout perez!!
Bob Arum and Freddie Roach are laughing at the “Pimping” of Manny Pacquiao to the public. Filipino’s bought the select matchmaking and fight manipulation “Hook line and Sinker”.
This will be the biggest selling fight in history. When Pacquiao climbs in the ring with Mayweather you will find that you’ve been “PUNKED”!!!
Your article sucks dude please tell me who is the official pound-for-pound king? Who is the official boxer of the decade? Who is the 7 division champ who made boxing history? A 50-50 split is a generous offer from the greatest fighter of this era. Who is Mayweather anyway? He’s known for his “0″ but in truth he is a ZERO.”
when Money said he is going to retire again he should have retired immediately so that Lahr would be busy licking his ass everyday instead of posting his writings
OK Dave Lahr we get it already. You like Floyd. Fine. So be it. We’re all entitled to our opinions. I respect that.
Like a broken record though, this comparing PPV numbers of their last fights. That’s all I hear. What about the fact that they both need each other to get the biggest paycheck of their careers? And that the fight fans deserve to finally get this fight done? 50/50 is fair. Nothing else is fair. Everybody just shut up and sign the contracts. Let’s get this project over with for chrissakes.
I’ve been following this entire debacle and the most entertaining thing about it is how so many writers can take a couple of simple facts, spindoctor and complicate it to the point where it’s borderline absurd. For anyone who is truly interested in what’s going on, here’s what it boils down to and the only facts you need to know.
1.) Floyd Mayweather is afraid to fight Manny Pacquiao
2.) Floyd never planned on fighting Manny Pacquiao
3.) Floyd’s intention is to shove Manny Pacquiao out of the spotlight & smear his name any way he can without actually fighting him.
The rest is just smoke, mirrors and parlor tricks that the Mayweather team has thrown out there. If you side with Mayweather on this then you’ve been punk’d.
who even allows this guy to post articles on this site?
I respect Floyd’s showmanship and talent and I believe he has the opportunity of a lifetime here to prove himself once and for all. The one common thing that all the greatest athletes have is that eagerness to face off against the toughest competition to prove their greatness. Whether it’s excessive pride or excessive fear, Floyd needs to wake up to the fact that very few people get this opporunity to face another all time great and prove their worth. If he doesn’t man up and stop throwing up roadblocks, he is going to seriously damage is entire career and legacy.
Just because pac has been hyped and prepped as this big deal, which his resume, losses, and boxing skill cannot even come close to floyd, doesnt mean he deserves anywhere near 50%. That is just a joke. Floyd has dominated boxing for 10 years, pac has drained shop worn legends, he doesnt deserve to get more than 40%, and thats pushing it.
there’s no such thing as 50 50 split 1boxer is a worker and the other is his own boss. arum will rape pac and PBF will make 50mil . wow what a smart congressman he drops out of school at the 2nd grade. good voting LMFAO
i reckon split should be 55/45 if mayweather wins, if pacquiao wins or draw 50/50. If pacquiao is ‘certain he will win’, then he should go for that. Any one else agree? i just really want to watch this fight!!!! SO GEED
“It is when power is wedded to chronic fear that it becomes formidable.”
Eric Hoffer (1902 – 1983), The Passionate State of Mind, 1954
Manny Pacquiao has single handedly sent the entire Mayweather family reeling into finger pointing, accusing, annoucing another retirement, ducking & dodging while hiding behind unreasonable demands, etc etc.. Something about this little Filipino has the Mayweather’s shaking in their boots and every attempt they have made to reduce Manny Pacquio’s stature has boomeranged and blown right back up in their faces and now Floyd is widely known as the coward of the sport while Pacquiao’s star just continues to rise. I love how karma and poetic justice works.
Fighters are defined by who they fight. Using Ray Leonard as an example, just imagine if we elimated Hearns, Hagler & Duran from the picture…where would Leonard rank on an all time list then? If both fighters retired today, there is no doubt that Manny Pacquiao would be ranked higher than Floyd Mayweather on the all time greats list…Manny is the more accomplished fighter and he as the credentials to prove it. I don’t think either would make the top 10, maybe not even the top 20, so they really need each other. However, Floyd needs Manny more than Manny needs Floyd if he wants to be regarded as one of the all time greats.
Floyd is going to be kicking himself in the ass 5 years from now while he is watching ESPN and every time his name comes up they will say “Floyd was a talented fighter but always seemed to avoid the best fighters of his generation”. His name will be as synonymous with “Ducker” as Ali’s name is synonymous with Frazier.
Why agree when GBP fixed the fight between Mayweather and Mosely?
pac 70-30 done
One more thing; if we want better articles & writers on this site we need to stop giving hits to biased, one trick pony writers who have nothing to offer except the same article written over & over.
Excuse me. But the Superstar meant Floyd wanted 16% more from the purse.
FMJ gets 40%, Pacquiao 40%. 20%, thru subscrber vote, this the basis of FMJ, that he got the numbers of PPV. Now if FMJ is the PPV attraction there’s no doubt FMJ will decline this offer. FMJ is the fighter you like to watch? vote him when you subscribe this fight. I think this is the fair deal for both fighters, unless there is another reason..Lets get it on..
Floyd offered 60/40 and Manny rejected. Manny offered a winner’s share and Floyd rejected. This proves that Manny has the confidence to put his money where his mouth is and Floyd does not. End of story
Basically Floyd wants 66% more than Manny. The only way this should be handled the fairest way would 42/42 split and the remaining 16% should go to the winner. That is absolutely unbiased and fair.
Mr. Lahr, you seem more interested in Floyd’s finances than than making the fight.
Tell me, what would you rather see; 50/50 & a fight or 60/40 & no fight? Have you considered the damage to Floyd’s reputation & how that would effect him financially, in the longer term, if he never fights Pacquaio?
I for one could care less about the split, they’re not sharing their purse with me.
Whatever it takes to get the job done.
The main issue here is the PPV right? both of them will get 40%. Then thru PPV, The subscriber will vote, I think its fair and rewarding to both fighters coz its prove who really is the PPV attraction. From this we determine who really attracts the boxing fans, the highest vote gets the 20%, Fair right? Now if we based your datas thru the previews fights, FMJ is way ahead. Would you think thru your datas FMJ has the advantage? Then if this is the basis, its the feasible way for both fighters who will get the bigger share. I consider this fair coz this were the borderline issue, PPV. If you sell more, you get more. This is equal playing Field. So lets do it…
This Fight is Doomed!!
With a 60/40 demand from Floyd, you can rest assure the fight will NOT happen.
Like I said before, put this fight in your fantasy bout. Too much Politics.
who’s popular? guyweather? your an id!ot dave lahr..! just take a look at this the numbers of popularity: (youtube & I Google’d)
“YOUTUBE”
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3.4 – “Oscar de la Hoya vs. Floyd Mayweather”
2.1 – “Roy Jones vs. Floyd Mayweather”
2.0 – “Floyd Mayweather jr.”
1.9 – “floyd mayweather highlight”
1.5 – “Zab Judah Vs Floyd Mayweather”
1.5 – “50 Cent At Floyd Mayweather’s Big Boy Mansion”
1.3 – “Floyd Mayweather Vs Ricky Hatton Final Round TKO”
1.1 – “50 Cent & Floyd Mayweather – On The Way To The Ring”
1.0 – “Sugar Ray Leonard vs Floyd Mayweather”
0.9 – “Mayweather vS Hatton 12/2007″
TOTAL: 16.7M Views
Manny Pacquiao
2.2 – “HBO Boxing: Marquez vs. Pacquiao II”
2.2 – “Greatest Fights of Manny Pacquiao”
2.0 – “HBO Boxing: Marquez vs Pacquiao II Highlights”
1.9 – “Manny Pacquiao”
1.7 – “HBO Boxing: Pacquiao vs. Cotto – Fight Preview”
1.6 – “Manny Pacquiao Greatest KO!!!”
1.6 – “PACQUIAO vs COTTO – FIREPOWER HD”
1.6 – Manny Pacquiao vs Ricky Hatton Countdown!!!”
1.5 – “Pacquiao Vs. Morales III”
1.3 – “Manny Pacquiao Stopped Ricky Hatton in the 2nd round”
TOTAL: 17.6M Views
“I Google’d”
“Floyd WHOMayweather”got 3.54M results
“Manny Pacquiao”got 3.97M results
NOW, WHO’S POPULAR? MORRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!
I can’t believe there are still people out there who are sticking by the Mayweather’s side. I guess that’s what fan loyalty is all about. I’ll say this though. I’ve been a boxing fan for 30 years and I can say with confidence that Pacquiao has already won this fight. He is inside the heads of Floyd Sr & Jr the same way that Pryor was inside of the head of Arguello, and they are already mentally shaken. You can’t fight a guy who strikes the fear of God in you because you won’t beat him. Floyd has to find a way to gain a psychological advantage before he will take this fight, and so far he hasn’t been able to figure out how to do that.
So Floyd is ready to walk away from possibly the biggest payday in boxing history if Manny doesn’t accept a smaller cut? Where else would Floyd go to make this kind of ca$h? Nowhere! Doesn’t make sense. I knew he would back down from this fight because he soils himself every time Pacquiao’s name even gets mentioned in an interview.
I wish their would be a rematch claus on this contract like in the Mosley fight! so that Manny Pacquiao could bank on floyd and whoop him twice like the others Barrera, Morales, Marquez! both defeats would be on the hands of Pacquiao! Then whoop on Cotto for the unpresidented 8th title!
Man, Mayweather claims to be a business man, fights for money and says that Manny would be an easy fight for him. If that’s the case then he could accept a 50/50 split, take an easy payday of 40 million while gaining all the bargaining power from his victory, rematch Manny at a 70/30 split and walk away with another easy 60 or 70 mil. That’s an “EASY” 100 million at least he could earn within the next 9 or 10 months. Sounds like a no brainer to me..?? I wonder why he hasn’t signed the contract yet…hmmmm???
And as far as Hall of fame people have to realize that when they analyze the two careers they will highlight the fact that the titles that mayweather one where all linear titles except Gatti… for pac morales was a beaten man berrara was a paper champ at the time because he had already lost the title and Marquez 1 hmmm linear oscar 154 champ mosley 147 linear champ baldomere 147 linear champ 130 linear champ chico hernandez l 135 linear champ chico corrales and cleaned out the division. Pac had exciting fights just not against the recognized champs and never cleaned a division.. Look there is a reason mayweather who has damn near never had an exciting fight never come close to loosing is considered the best of his era. While pac is considered the most exciting. but numbers dont lie and if you want to talk meat and potatoes have more but I just dont want this to turn into a name calling vs fact session
T-Dub
Pacquiao:
Fighter of the century
Fighter of the year 2008
Fighter of the year 2009
Fighter of the year 2010
Ring Magazing (the bible of boxing) P4P #1
Mayweather:
Says he’s better than Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson.
Your right man, Mayweather deserves the Lion’s share…LOL
Mayweather should get 60/40 out of it. even when Pac loses,it will be a rich beating.
Mayweather Jr PPV History (source – ESPN)
1. Shane Mosley (5/1/10) – 1,400,000
2. Juan Manuel Marquez (9/19/09) – 1,000,000
3. Ricky Hatton (12/8/07) – 920,000
4. Oscar De La Hoya (5/5/07) – 2,400,000
5. Carlos Baldomir (11/4/06)- 325,000
6. Zab Judah (4/8/06) – 375,000
7. Arturo Gatti (6/25/05) – 365,000
Manny Pacquiao PPV history (source: Pacland
1. Erik Morales I 03/05 – 350,000
2. Erik Morales II 01/06 – 360,000
3. Oscar Larios 07/06 – Can’t find numbers
4. Erik Morales III 11/06 – 350,000
5. Jorge Solis 04/07 – 200,000
6. Marco Antonio Barrera II 10/07 – 350,000
7. Juan Manuel Marquez II 03/08 – 400,000
8. David Diaz 06/08 – 250,000
9. Oscar De La Hoya 12/08 – 1.25 million
10. Ricky Hatton 05/09 – 850,000
11. Miguel Cotto 11/09 – 1.25 million
12. Joshua Clottey 03/10 – 700,000
@ Russ – Well said my man. Pacquiao is like a lightweight Frazier. He’s tough as nails, never stops coming and is as viscious as anyone. You are spot on about Money may though, he doesn’t have that mental toughness and brave spirit that Ali had.
Pac has recently received all of the relevant accolades and Floyd fans are all out of any effective ammunition to defend him which is why these types of article are so nonsensical & inaccurate. Floyd wants so bad to be named as the greatest, but he doesn’t want to step through the fire to earn that title. Falsely accusing great fighters of takign drugs while avoiding the prospect of facing them in the ring will not land you a seat next to guys like SRR & Ali. Floyd tries to compare himself to Ali, but he never fought his own version of Foreman, Liston or Norton. He has his opportunity to face his own personal Frazier, but he knows Pacquiao will take him to another level the same way that Frazier took Ali to another level in 1971, and Floyd doesn’t want any part of it. I believe that Pacquiao has exposed Floyd’s main weakness without stepping into the ring with him, and that weakness is a major character flaw that will haunt Floyd for the rest of his life as his entire career will be defined by it… that weakness is F-E-A-R.
It’s strange how mr romero are giving mayweather so much credit…
ha ha ha..
Being undefeated doesn’t mean anything which is why nobody in their right mind would rank Joe Calzaghe(0 losses) above Ray Robinson (19 losses), so we can throw that argument out the window. You can’t logically compare the PPV numbers of 2 well known fighters (May vs Mosley) to a well known fighter and a no name (Pac vs Clottey) so that argument has also been debunked. What we have left is 2 guys who are forced to equally share the spotlight as the sport’s greatest, and one guy (Mayweather) who is trying to steal the spotlight by false accusation, and is too afraid to run the risks of possibly giving up his share of the spotlight by actually fighting the other guy. How can you be a pro fighter, yet lack the courage to fight?
put your money where your mouth is. A 40/40 split with the winner getting the extra 20 percent. A no brainer for PBF cuz he is sure to anihilate the glorified club fighter that is pacquaio. Or maybe let the ppv buyers have a vote. let them decide who gets the 60 percent. PBF is the “goat” and they will surely vote for him. Just look at his past ppv numbers….it’s all mayweather, nothing to do with how popular his opponents have been. A filipino fighting a ghanan? in dallas only sold 50000 tickets. Thats a sure indication that nobody likes manny and he’s bad for boxing. c’mon floyd, clean up the sport. btw, how goes the crusade to clean up boxing?
I think floyd should have 60% of the pie, because after this fight everyone will know his a fraud and the humiliation is so extreme he would commit suicide..the 60% goes to his charity and painting of his gym..
Look I all I gotta say is I’m Mexican n DLH should have won that fight against dat sorry ass boxer pbf y don’t u think he wanted a remat h with DLH cuz he knew he’d get rocked n if suga rocked his ass in da second round ya dumbass pbf fans r dumb ass hell cuz PAC man is relentless n he’ll be da one 2knock dat sorry ass duckin fighter ya call a boxer n I’ll be glad laughing all da way
ha ha ha…
wow what an extremely sensible and balanced article!
no biased at all. Hats off.
ha ha ha…
To the people who say Pac one fighter of the year and all that Jazz!!! Lebron one MVP KOBE won the championship and will go down as one of the greatest. Who won the NFL MVP D-MVP and then ask who won the super bowl. Who had the highest ratings the undefeated team or the Giants. Look!! Numbers don’t lie FANS DO. Cotto had done better numbers then Pac with the exception of PAC VS OSCAR AND HATTON. And those numbers for hatton and Oscar where on par with what haton and oscar usually do against high caliber opponents. Mosley has never broken 1mil buys not even against oscar his fight vs oscar didnt beat hatton mayweather. But the one fight that tells it all is marquez Pac a million mexicans didnt buy that 300.000 did… and 575000 for both fights, well sorry mayweather vs the same opponant 1,000,000 buys. and lets not talk oscar hatton or mosley. Men lie woman lie numbers dont
yellow floyd, man up and fight. do it old school gangsta style and fight toe to toe. oh but i forgot, you are not gangsta with it. you are a straight biatchhhhhhhhhhhh
no dave, you won’t get a dime from mayweather. he already has ellerbe as his wife
at ms romero.
dude change your last name. you are a disgrace to all people who have latin last names.
be a man floyd and fight. fight. fight.
scotto
MAYWEATHER is being kind ofering 60/40 i think MAYWEATHER deserves at least 65/35 at least and soon you all will see why sorry to say but pacman is no where neer as good as MAYWEATHER no where neer…
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here we go again. if pac is nowhere “NEER” floyd, why is floyd just asking for a 60/40 split rather than 70/30 or 80/20 to the winner? i mean, if he’s that good?
Why would a guy who brought in better PPV numbers than FLoyd vs Shane by fighting cotto, just won fighter of the century, fighter of the year 3 years in a row, ring magazine’s p4p top fighter and most celebrated fighter worldwide ever accept a 60/40 deal against another fighter?
at scott.
you said it so beautifully my friend.
people who cannot see that are just haters of pinoys and love track and field. run floyd run, but you cannot hide. floyd, i smell something. i smell P***y.
As far as money goes, both fighters have a ton to lose here. As far as legacy goes I think that FLoyd has more to lose here. If the fight doesn’t happen, the majority of fans will lay the blame at his feet since he has been the one that has been proactively throwing up roadblocks. It just looks like he’s scared at this point, and if this fight does not happen, nobody will remember Floyd’s accomplishments, they will only remember him as the guy who refused to face anyone in their prime who posed a threat. If Floyd really believe he could win this fight, he would accept a winner’s purse, throw in a rematch clause and have 2 huge easy paydays against Pacquiao. I do think Floyd’s fear is the main reason for the roadblocks.
AT SCOTTO
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN SWINGING ON FLOYDS NUTTS FOR.? LET GO ALREADY.
MAYWEATHER is being kind ofering 60/40 i think MAYWEATHER deserves at least 65/35 at least and soon you all will see why sorry to say but pacman is no where neer as good as MAYWEATHER no where neer…
“Here, Yeller! Come back, Yeller! Best doggone dog in the west!”
floyd quit being yellow and be a man. be a man you coward. you cant hide forever.
be a real man and just put on the gloves like a true true warrior would do and not even think about money or drug testing. even if pac was on steriods, what are you scared of. a true warrior is not scared of anything no matter what. NO MATTER WHAT!!!NO MATTER WHAT!!!!
floyd please just fight. you are my favorite fighter. please just fight. be fair at 50 50 and let him do the 14 day test that he agreed to. whats next man, the glove or the ring. damn give me a break and fight. grow some nutts my n.
I USE TO LIKE FLOYD, BUT I CAN SEE THAT HE IS SCARED TO FIGHT THIS GUY MANNY. IAM AFRICAN AMERICAN AND I AM DISSAPOINTED IN FLOYD.
Isn’t Floyd gonna take a year or two break from boxing. So if that is not letting the fight slip away, then the sun would not rise in the east.
Make up your mind Floyd, JAZZ DO IT (Retire or fight PAC)
BRI be going in on yall…everytime I read BRI’s post it makes total sense. Don’t hate FLOYD for being the better fighter and the better business man…he knows his worth and since PAC is the so called bigger draw, FOTY, FOTD ect he should be able to make 40mil without FLOYD like FLOYD just did without him lol! Promoters pimp the sh*t out of their fighters so why not put yourself into a position to call your own shots?
Pacquiao should get 75 and May chi ken 25.
Dave Lahr is hilarious…
But, I do agree that Pacquiao is about to let this fight slip away. If he goes on to fight Cotto, I think the boxing fans will speak, by holding on to their wallets, this time around. I’ve learned my lesson from the Clottey fight. I’m not supporting another Top Rank one sided affair, under the celestial lights of Cowboys stadium. Put these fighters in with other talent.
I think only the die hard fans for both fighters, are guaranteed to support a rematch with Cotto. They can have it. I’d rather watch the up coming talent (for FREE), if these are my only options.
What we will see, is that again Mayweather will choose the better opponent, and, probably, come out with more money and better numbers.
60/40. Winner gets 60
here we go again dave, Manny i think deserve more than FMjr. for the reason that not all who watch FMjr fights watch for him to win. Its more on waching the fight because we want to see him defeated, I have plenty of friends who watch him fight mosley, marquez and DLhoya, but were not for floyd.
I think Manny derserve more percentage because:
1 he is WBO wealter weight champion
2 he got a fighter of the year award
3 he got a fighter of the decade award
and what Floyd Got?
Best defence? may be…
He develop that skill because he is Fragile…
@san diego
Whoa whoa whoa! I didn’t even see that you said Pac is a more complete fighter. Now the conversation ends here. I’m not talking to someone with a equal boxing iq.
It amazes me how you all can say winner takes,when all the people who says this, probably has never boxed a day in their lives.Its a brutal sport and any man willing to step in the ring has guts.You get what your worth and be happy you have all your senses when your done.
We can talk about possible scenarios but ultimately it is still a scenario.
Floyd has publicly stated that PAC is a one dimensional fighter who he could easily beat.
He may win over PAC outside the ring but the real test is doing it with PAC inside the ring.
@san diego
Pac does fight bigger fighters but in height. He makes fighters come down at a catch weight. I give Pac props for Morales and Barerra that’s it. He could have easily lost the first fight to Marquez and definitely lost the second fight. Everyone else where bums when he fought them. He has done nothing impressive. You said footwork and hand speed are tied then you’re crazy. Pac even said he had to get faster for PBF. You’re right PBF hasn’t been in the ring with anyone as good as him because he is the best. He was regarded as P4P for a while. He fought the current 3 and 5 P4P fighters consecutively. And when this fight gets made he would have fought 1, 3, and 5. Has Manny fought anyone in the top ten in recent years. No he beat Cotto then the next fight he fought someone that Cotto beat ha. No way does Pac have a better resume because of two fighters he fought years ago. And suffered losses to them. PBF has never been down by a punch but a smaller fighter with a 5 inch reach disadvantage is going to do it? By the 7th round Pac is going to be wondering why nothing is working. Not knocking him down. PBF is a lot better then Pac at a lot of things. This fight won’t be close in the latter rounds so why would PBF brawl with him. You guys think Manny is just going to be landing so many shots? You guys think Pac is going to just walk through PBF (the bigger fighter)? Have you forgotten about his jab? Fighters game plans go out the window in fights once PBF adapts. Its not going to be very easy but it won’t be that hard of a fight.
I don’t get it. Mayweather will make more money even if the split went 60/40 in Pacquiao’s favor since Pac has to divide between Top Rank and even GBP. Why not just do the 50/50 man? This guy’s a joke, one concession leads to another hoop to jump through. Surprise surprise.
50:50 split is a fair outcome. Floyd should get over it and get on with the fight.
PAC being the Fighter of the Decade and no 1 P4P would not accept, as a matter of principle, lower than 50:50. The 50:50 split was the original agreement and he already compromised to a 14 day cut off per Floyd’s original demand to make the fight happen.
PAC has won most of the accolades in boxing and a victory over Floyd is just a bonus to his legacy.
If the fight did not happen, Floyd would be remembered as the self proclaimed champion (no official title bestowed by boxing experts) who was given a chance to prove his point but let the opportunity pass him by.
I hate when amateur fans speak on this blog without giving the full truth. Pacquiao has been fighting guys that have come off loses, number 1 and #2 they were also either weight-drained (DLH) and “catchweight” (Cotto). Don’t even mention Hatton or Clottey, they both suck.
These victories for Pac clearly should have *astericks* by them.
@Bryan…if you read my earlier commments you would see that I already sited that De La Hoya came in a washed up fighter. Also, you would have noticed that I already sited the villain role that Mayweather has concucted to pull his PPV’s. But again, in terms of a fighter’s resume, Pacquiao has the one up on Mayweather. The belts are a great bragging tool for Pacquiao fans indeed, but Mayweather had the opportunity to do the same and he passed. Pacquiao was still the smaller man in most of the fights that he’s been in and has defeated legends at their respective weight classes (not counting David Diaz, I think HE was cherry picked along with Clottey). But the fights themselves were astounding, brutal and full of action! The wars with Barrera and Morales. The intense controversial battles with Marquez, Hatton, Cotto. He stepped in the smaller man and not just won, but blew ‘em away. You can argue that Hatton and Cotto were pre-beaten up before Pacquiao met them, but Cotto already fought 2 fights and won prior to meeting Manny, and Hatton was still undefeated at the Junior welterweight division. Again, odds were against Pacquiao. When was the last time Mayweather fought a fight where the odds were against him? I say Pacquiao Catches Mayweather sleeping at the 7th round and knocks him down then. Not a knock out mind you, I do give Mayweather some respect, but a knockdown. I predict Mayweather will try to outbox Manny, but the furious punching ability will be too fast and too much for even Mayweathers defense. Pacquiao is no longer a loose cannon in the ring, he does take more risks, but it’s calculated risks that end up hurting his opponents more than he gets hurt. When did Mayweather last fight a fighter with just as good if not better footwork than himself? Resume’s aside, Pacquiao is much more complete fighter. I say they are tied at handspeed, footwork and resilience, but power, aggression, punch volume, and the ability to maintain this for all 12 rounds will prove too much even for Mayweathers extremely clever defense.
@JC
No can argue that Mayweather is the bigger draw and if you go purely off of the numbers than he should in fact get a larger purse. I get that… I believe that 55/45 is fair or even 60/40 is not out of the question.
However, if they don’t make this fight they are BOTH missing out on huge potentially record breaking event.
There is one question that Mayweather’s Team has to consider this carefully.
If they don’t fight Pacquiao who will they fight? If they don’t fight Pacquiao how much money will be made with any other oppoonent?
All I am saying is if 50/50 is the new deal breaker, than obviously you take the fight…. They already failed to negotiate the first time around… Both Pacquiao and Mayweather will lose my respect if they can’t figure out how to challenge each other for being the best p4p, not to mention all of the money they both lose for not looking at the big picture..
The most logical deal in this fight, which I know Pacquiao will surely agree is to divide the 60-40 purse, and give the 60% to whoever wins, and the 40% to the loser.
Please stop the nonsense of blabbing about on who is the most popular or who is the biggest draw. What we are talking here is who is the best fighter between the two.
Now, if Mayweather will not agree on this, no one can deny that he is afraid of Manny. And that I think is the case with Mayweather right now. He is really not planning to fight the best fighter in the planet because he fears Manny.
Everyone, the reason why Mayweather wanted 60% is because he needs the dough to pay MP after the defamation of character lawsuit that MP filed against the “MAY CLAN” is settled. The CLAN knows that they are in trouble because there is no even a hair of evidence that MP is on PEDs.
They have to pay Millions of mulah.
Anyway this fight between the 2 is to prove who is the best P
for P. The $$$ should only come in 2nd.
But MP will not kowtow tho the CLAN and an even split should be the best alternative so the fight can go on.
@Orlando
Yeah except PBF lesser fighter is currently the 5th P4P fighter in the world. And he also did 1.4 million. I think you have to rethink the 50/50 after that. Pac loss leverage in negotiations.
Whoever thinks 50/50 is stupid, has to consider the fact they have already failed to make this fight once before and both fighters were forced to fight lesser opponents. In other words they already agreed to a 50/50 split the first time around and failed to agree on drug testing. And, now they have a second chance… and can’t figure out how to split 100 million dollars?
Make the fight, and who ever wins will stand to make a few more big paydays on top if this payday!
@kalilnst
Pac and his team are down for winner take all? I’m going to need a source on that? Arum is stupid but not that stupid.
“If it was me I’d gladly take a 40% split”
Yea, cuz you’re a bum Lahr. As far as why take a 50/50 split? So the fight can happen retard.
@san diego
Both Resume’s aren’t that great. Pac hasn’t fought anyone since Marquez.
He did throw 1200 punches he also only landed a little over 200 and looked like he lost the fight.
Did everyone forget De La Hoya was on an I.V. before the fight because he was so dehydrated. No Pac fan should bring up that fight. That was a payday for De La Hoya all the way.
Don’t make it seem like Pac has this great resume because he doesn’t. You guys brag about the belts. Look at who he’s fought in those fights. Come on guys its going to end up 55/45 and Pac is going down.
to all who thinks of 60/40 winner split: makes too much sense which is why i find it hard to believe floyd’s fans could not comprehend. they keep looking at “oh floyd sold this much ppv and pac only sold this much ppv and so on”. there’s a reason this fight is at this magnitude, ” BOTH guys are champs in their own sense and BOTH guys are going to beat each other in the ring and tell world who the real champ is. not coz floyd is in it nor pac is in it, BOTH OF THEM ARE IN IT. check out the worh ” BOTH”. get it yet , floyd fans? BOTH guys will bring in so much money (not just floyd nor just pac) that it will be the biggest PPV in the history of boxing, any sports, heck PPV.
@ san diego: this is one thing that doesn’t makes sense. if floyd himself thinks this is “an easy fight, a walk in the park, peds or no peds pac will go down” BS, why not demand on winner takes all? pacquiao team is up to it, why not floyd?
He only wrote this mess to respond to Dunn’s article. If he commented on that he would’ve been smashed on. So sad to see a fan (borderline stalker) be more offended than mayweather himself.
There is only ONE way to fairly judge who is the bigger draw, and this is to see how they did against a common opponent.
The biggest draw in boxing history to date is De La Hoya with 18 pay per view fights, and he actually fought both Mayweather and Pacquiao.
When Mayweather fought De La Hoya it was the biggest fight in boxing history so far as pay per view with 2.15 million buys. Pacquiao was also very successful fighting De La Hoya but sold less at 1.25 million views according to HBO pay per view numbers.
So there is clear evidence that Mayweather is the bigger draw. Having said this, it still takes two to make a fight possible. Mayweather can not succeed without an opponent.
I would say go with 55-45 in favor of Mayweather or even consider 50/50 because of the fact that the public is SPECIFICALLY demanding this particular fight between Mayweather and pacquiao right now. This means the public is wanting BOTH fighters to determine who is number one in boxing.
Even though Mayweather is clearly the bigger draw, he is still only 1/2 of THIS mega fight. So in this fight with Pacquiao, even thought Mayweather may technically deserve a larger share, he probably should consider 50/50 to make the fight happen. One half of a big pie is better than not having any pie to divide and enjoy.
In the end greed may dictate that no fight takes place. Against any other fighter Mayweather should automatically get the lions share. Against Pacquiao he still probably deserves slightly more but if 50/50 gets the fight signed then I would say Mayweather should still take the fight.
@Stephen A…Agreed. Mosley lacked the aggression to continue on against Mayweather. Not that it was easy pickings either for Mayweather, but if a fighter starts showing fatigue at round 3, and he’s up against a speed puncher, he didn’t have a chance! And yes, i did pick up on the fact that I was having a conversation with a Pacquiao fan! Lol! Pacquiao is a legend already in my books. Just to go back into the argument raised by Mr. lahr, Mayweather still has a lot to prove as fighter in terms of opponents. This PPV pull nonsense to prove a worth of a fighter is upsetting many in the boxing communities and media because quite frankly, nobody really cares how much money these fighters make! What fans and boxing fanatics care about is who are you going to fight next? Pacquiao obviously has been going for fighters who are supposedly bigger and raise challenges to him and his style. Obviously the Clottey match was a PPV failure, but the fight was a success! What I remember about the fight is the fact that he through 1,231 punches (AN insane average of a 100 punches per round!) These are the numbers that boxing critics will remember when judging boxing legends. So again, to recall my earlier statement, Mayweather still has a lot to prove as a fighter. He should stop trying to prove that he’s a marketing success story.
I feel Floyd should get a slightly higher cut of EITHER PPV or salary (55-45), but to answer the question of this article:
“Why should Mayweather agree to a 50-50 deal?” To get the deal done. But then there’s the question of the blood testing…
@san diego im a pac man fan if u didnt already know lol but i also admire floyd and thought he don a great job agains sugar shane but as u correctly pointed out sugar was a bit past it and very sluggish
Why should Mayweather agree to a 50-50 deal with Pacquiao?
To Finally Make The Greatest Fight Between The 2 #1 P4P Fighter in The World?
duhh?
@Stephen, I agree that Pacquiao had an amazing performance! One of my favourite fights to watch again and again in Youtube because this was the David Vs. Goliath match and Pacquiao was brilliant. But again, De La Hoya should have been stronger. Like Emmanuel Steward said: “We expected De La Hoya to be a BIGGER fighter, instead, he was just a TALLER fighter”. I never believed that De La Hoya had anything on Pacquiao after round one and two, but I did not expect De La Hoya to be gun shy and mentally at a loss. Then again, He never fought anyone quite like Manny. We can argue that De La Hoya was the same or not the same fighter, but as Mosley has proven, age takes it’s toll, and De La Hoya though looked great physically, was already on a downhill slope with his boxing career. Pacquiao was on the rise. Whether he was already at the bottom when they fought, or if Pacquiao pushed him way off the cliff, is always open for debate. Either which way, before the fight, the odds were against Pacquiao and he rose to the challenge and won. That we can agree upon.
dumb ass Dave Lahr.. LOL!.. suck on this 8===D
Posting some articles that contradicts or doesn’t make sense about his article title.. sh*t Head.. =D
Hey Larhr, are you this dumb? someone made this article before you did sir! so have some originality.
@Seriously, You are one of the few who actually puts a good argument on the table for Mayweather and I applaud you for that. However, I still see the PPV numbers skewed since fights are between 2 individuals and not one. They need to really factor in who the matches were against to have a more accurate idea of a fighter’s worth in the PPV draws. Obviously as proven from the Dallas fight, a great fighter fighting a nobody is not enough to break the million dollar line. but 2 well known fighters with history is the obvious choice. Hence the success of Mayweather Vs. Marquez and Pacquiao Vs. Cotto.
Also, I am in agreeance with you on the “Silent Negotiations”. Whether you are a Mayweather fan or Pacquiao fan, it’s gotta be funny at the same time scary of all these leaks in the press. But hey, you can’t stop the people from wanting what they want. And what we all want regardless who we think is the Pound of Pound King, is this fight to happen!
@san diego hydration shouldnt efect a fighter that badly, let me explian the difference in the two fights if u whatched them both, de le hoya was robbed , he beat floyd weraz pac man just fought a brilliant fight punching harder than floyd can and from all sorts of angles
Manny them should fight Mosley and Mosley’s fan base will support the PPV and he will do the PPV buys Floyd did against Mosley. Pacman will get the 70-30 split and he will make 50m. 30% go to Top Rank and GBP, 10% to Roach, and I don’t now how much he pays Ronz and his entourage.
In the end the 50m the Pacman would make will disappear. He will get half of it.
@Stephen A, I disagree, If you would recall, De La Hoya showed up to the fight completely drained and almost didn’t even make the weigh in. Even Freddie Roach noticed that he had needle marks on his arm from trying to hydrate him fast enough to have more weight. De La Hoya was obviously not himself in the fight. He had no aggression, no power, and obviously no energy. Not to take anything away from Pacquiao’s amazing performance, but Mayweather had a much harder fight with a younger more vibrant De La Hoya.
can anyone remember a fight this anticipated, what everyone wants to see, which was this hard to make?
Why shoudlnt he. It’s the ONLY way they will fight. If he doesn’t want to fight then he should
ask 60/40.
@gunna, not to mention, your source of Mosley not being a PPV draw is from Mayweather? I really wouldn’t believe that statement if I were you.
@Gunna, Mosley has a fan base. You forget that he has fought in the ring for quit sometime and has records over De La Hoya and Margarito. Mosley is likeable character and can pull a good draw. He may not be in the same PPV buys as Mayweather or Pacquiao, agreed, but lets say of the 1.2, a believable figure of that is 30% was to watch Mosley. That is a very fair number. 30% of 1.2 Million is 360K. the difference would be at 840,000 purchased for Mayweather. A closer figure to the Pacquiao Clottey fight. Plus, Mosley was going into the fight with people remembering him knocking out Margarito. a factor that definitely assisted in the PPV count.
@san diego rubbish, de la hoya was as fit for pac man as he was for floyd
@Jamie***** I AGREE 55/45 IS PROBABLY WHAT WILL BE SET BUT MANNY CAN NOT EXPECT 50/50 THAT SHIP SAILED WHEN HE TOOK ON THE CLOTTEY FIGHT. AND THIS IS HIS LAST CHANCE. HE WILL MAKE 4 TO 6 TIMES IN THIS FIGHT WHAT HE WILL MAKE FIGHTING COTTO. FLOYD HAS OPTIONS TO MAKE 40 MILLION AND MANNY WILL NOT FIGHT THOSE OPTIONS. HE WALKS AWAY THIS TIME 70/30 OR FLOYD MIGHT JUST SAY FORGET MANNY AND FIGHT MARTINEZ AND PAUL WILLIAMS MAKE 80 TO 100 MILLON AND RETIRE.GOTTA A FEELING ARUM WILL MAKE MANNY TAKE THAT 55/45 THOUGH. ARUM COULD MAKE 40 TO 50 MILLION OFF THIS FIGHT HIMSELF.
if there is one thing we all learned about de la hoya is that manny beat him in brutal style and floyd cudnt
@san diego WHAT FANBASE? when was the last time shane mosley fought on ppv. floyd said it himself. shane mosley isnt a ppv attraction. what fans does he have? all he has or used to have is rated number 1 welterweight
idiot article…
I’m a big Mayweather fan and even i can see this article is ridiculous.
I’m liking the ideas of 60/40 split, winner takes 60.
ok jaime. then why didnt pacquiao do shi* when he fought de la hoya? how come pacquiao doesnt have any ppv records? floyds the biggest attraction and you know that
And just to add, I like Freddie Roach’s idea best…WINNER TAKES ALL!!!
To Dave Lahr your boring writer same with your idol Floyd Mayweather. You are all a cheaters you think only a one side you didn’t see to the other side of Pacquiao. The BOXING FANS WANT TO SEE FLOYD MAYWEATHER AGREE TO FIGHT THE SEVEN DIVISIONS CHAMPION, AND A FIGHTER OF THE DECADE. AS OF NOW, THE BOXING FANS ALL OVER THE WORLD THINKS THAT FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS AFRAID TO FIGHT TO PACQUIAO, AND WE KNOW THAT FLOYD MAYWEATHER MAKING A LOT OF EXCUSES TO AVOID TO FIGHT PACQUIAO!! SHAME ON YOU FLOYD MAYWEATHER & DAVE LAHR!!!
Mayweather drue 1.4 million buys yes…but he did it with Shane Mosley. Remember, Mosley’s got a fan base too. In regards to Pacquiao only pulling 700,000 PPV buys, he did it all by himself. Trust me, no one bought that fight to watch Clottey. They bought that fight to Watch Pacquiao. Plus, All by himself, he pulled over 51,000 live viewers to the Dallas Cowboy Stadium, and again, I don’t think any of the 50 plus thousand went there for Clottey. To measure PPV success, they must measure the more equally interesting match which would be the Cotto fight which I do believe did better than the Mayweather Vs. Marquez fight. This argument that Pacquiao does not deserve an equal cut is irrational. Especially when Pacquiao is more famous worldwide. Even Casual fans of Boxing know more about Pacquiao’s history and fights more than Mayweather. How is this possible? Because Pacquiao had the more memorable fights. Why are his fights more memorable? Because Pacquiao is more action packed than Mayweathers “So you think you can Dance?” style of fighting. Mayweather has fought smaller fighters, never tested himself against true welterweights in their prime (Mosley was obviously over the hill). He draws PPV buys because everyone wants to see him lose. Pacquiao draws crowds because they want to see a knockout! Big difference in motivation for the consumers. And trust me, everyone wants a KNOCKOUT!
60-40, winner will take 60%! Just go at it for FREE! For the sake of the fans. Stop this B.S., whos getting more or what not.
there is too much money generated for this fight not to happen and tiger is right in what he says that flotd will not make as much money fighting anyone else
@ BRI but actually moneys last 2 ppv generated 2.4 million and pacman has generated 1.975 million so its not that far off. 55 45 split would seem fair to me.
Pacquiao needs to fight Mayweather and negotiate with all Mayweather demands. A 58-42 split for Mayweather and cutoff of 7 days random blood and urine testing should make the fight happen. It’s the last fight for Pacquiao worth watching. Any other Pacquiao fights will not enhanced his legacy. Margarito, cheater, Cotto, not the same anymore after Margarito fight. Marquez, not a good fighter at 147 and already a declining old fighter. Do it Manny and make the fight happen, and dedicate it with all the Filipinos watching. A win is a legacy to treasure for a long time. $20 million is already a lot of money. You do not need to ask for more. Wake up Manny. (Gumising ka, kabayan It’s now or never fight…
@ BRI – point taken !
What do you guys expect from Dave Lahr? The guy is obviously afflicted with “FLOMONITIS”.
MY PICK WHO YOU PAY SYSTEM OPENS UP ALL KINDS OF POSSIBILITIES FOR EXAMPLE .AFTER THE FIGHT YOU HAVE 30 MINUTES TO CALL BACK AND RATE THE FIGHT-SAY GREAT OR GOOD OR OK OR BAD OR BAD ENOUGH THAT I WANT 20% OF WHAT I PAID TO BE DIVERTED TO CHARITY-LIKE SEND IT TO CLEAN OIL OFF THE PELICANS IN THE GULF COAST.FLOYD WOULD BE SO HAPPY TO SEE SOME OF HIS MONEY GO THERE.
50 50 or no fight if fm does not fight mp he will not see that kind of money again.
@Jamie WHAT HE DID B4 DELAHOYA DOESNT MATTER JUST LIKE IT DOESNT MATTER THAT COTTO USED TO SELL PPV. RIGHT NOW HE IS A HBO FIGHTER AND IT IS WHAT IT IS. AFTER DELAHOYA FLOYD HAS 3 OF THE TOP 6 SELLING PPV FIGHTS OF ALL TIME. ITS ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW. AND RIGHT NOW FLOYD IS KILLING MANNY IN PPV SALES AND MONEY GENERATED.
And to let you know look at moneys ppv numbers before delayoha fought him ! they were all garbage ! He was unable to bring in very much “money” Oh how we forget ! and I’m no pacman fan by the way.
@ gunna will cotto is no ppv draw like dela hoya now is he ! I’m speaking about fighters right now.
floyd is playing mindgames with pac man to try and give himself a mental edge over a fighter who he knows is a dead cert of a threat to him
HAHAHAH AT JAIME(i think) why should we see as cotto pac vs mosley may. if u wanna look at mannys highest numbers we can go look at 2.5 million by floyd against de la hoya. 1.2 is cotto pac. thats doubled again. clottey got 700k buys and mosley may got 1.4 million. always getting doubled.
The champ gets a bigger purse.
The fact of the matter is that Manny Pacquiao cannot promote as well as Floyd Mayweather can and does. Floyd makes people want to buy the fight. Pacquiao appeals to his audience that remains the same and does not grow!!!
Pacquiao’s appeal is 98% from the Filipino community. 2% others. That does not sell PPV Tickets needed to eclipse 3 Million.
55/45 is fair and Mayweather can deduct the charity given on his taxes!!!
Floyd…you’d better file them after this check comes in!!!
cotto pac did roughly the same numbers as money and mosley thats how everyone should look at it
tom britt
shut up you clearly dont no how boxing works, this aint a game of scrabble or monoply mate
Dave Lard gets a kick on reactions of people that reads his article. Need to get checked dude your mental!
I agree it should be 60-40, but for the sake of making the making the fight 50/50 is fair. The problem is Floyd made 40 million without Manny, and outsold him in PPV buys, in his mind he really does not need Manny. That’s why I called the Floyd vs. Mosley fight a 40 million dollar mistake on part of team Pacquiao. The sad part of all, is these two fighters need each other. I know in the past I’ve said it’s Manny who needs Floyd, but the reality is, they need each other. In Floyds case it’s nothing more than answering his critics for the umpteenth time, and proving he is what he says he is. For Manny it’s more about proving he can beat the truly best welter in the world, no catch weights, and giving us doubters a reason to believe he is truly deserving of all the hype and accolades he’s recieved recently. Agree or disagree they need each other, and this fight has to happen.
I CAN SIMPLY END THIS DISPUTE IN A FAIR WAY HOWEVER IT WILL MOST LIKELY STRIKE FEAR IN THE HEART OF THE GREEDY.AS YOU PAY FOR THE FIGHT YOU ALSO HAVE TO PRESS ON THE PHONE EIGHTER #2 OR#7OR #6.#2MEANS YOU WANT ALL THE MONEY TO TO PAC- MAN #7 IT GOES TO FLOYD AND #6 MEANS THE MONEY IS SPLIT 50/50.DOESNT THAT MAKE IT REAL?
nut hugger
I think Mayweather will Acquiesce and allow Manny to have a 55/45 split in order to make the fight happen. Arum knows he effed up with the Clottey choice and is pushng for charity. However Floyd Mayweather is a “For” Profit Organization, not a “Non” Profit Organization.
55/45 or WALK…
SEE YA!!!!
just fight and retire , make way for amir khan, maidaina, bradley, alexandra, ortiz
The truth is Floyd does better than Pac when it comes to PPVs, it is hard to swallow but boy thats the truth and truth hurts. Pac took the easy route of Clottey and Floyd the riskier route Of Shane and as we know risk pays . I would suggest 75/25 in favour of Floyd
These 2 ballerinas should just accept a deal of 60% going to the winner and 40% to the loser. Also this writer should just get over it and shut his silly, pathetic, crybaby attitude.
you know i aint dumb i just got a little slow speech
pac will fight iron mike tyson
Although I agree that Mayweather deserves more, I think he should make an exception in this one and agree to the 50/50.
Who is Pac going to fight if not Floyd? Cotto or Mosley are the other 2 options. No way he fights Paul Williams or Martinez.
flyod aint scared he wants more money simple, manny is settling for equal amount but flyod and his ego aint
I go 45-45 split, 10% additional to the winner. Floyd says he’ll whip his ass, why is he scared then.
well in mannys mind he is going to knock flyod out so why go home short changed when you do the job right.
WHEN MANNY WALKED AWAY FROM THE FIGHT THE FIRST TIME, FLOYD MADE IT CLEAR THOSE TERMS WOULD NOT BE GOOD THE NEXT TIME AND IF HE SOLD MORE PPV THEN MANNY 50/50 WOULD BE OUT OF THE QUESTION AS WELL. FLOYD MIGHT AS WELL INK THE DEAL TO FIGHT MARTINEZ AND MAKE ANOTHER 40 MILLION. DOES NOT NEED MANNY TO MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY HE HAS SHOWN THAT ALREADY. IF HE CAN SELL 1 MILL. PPV WITH MARQUEZ IMAGINE WITH MARTINEZ.
Nobody forced Pac to fight Clottey, whether Pac carried the fight alone thats another thing , here we are looking at figures as figures dont lie. Against same opponents , Hatton, JMM, Oscar , Floyd did better than Pac . Please dont tell me about HBO24/7 coz HBO24/7 is nothing without characters in it. I repeat again figures dont lie but other factors like this and that are hard to substantiate.
PEOPLE KEEP SAYING MOSLEY IS A BIGGER NAME THEN CLOTTEY. ITS NOT MAYWEATHERS FAULT THAT MANNY IS FIGHTING BOXERS THAT PEOPLE DONT WANT TO SEE. HE COULD HAVE FOUGHT BRADLEY AN UNDEFEATED FIGHTER AND TOP 10 IN THE WORLD WOULD HAVE BEEN EASY TO BUILD. AND MOSLEY HAS BEEN A HBO TV FIGHTER FOR A WHILE HASNT BEEN A BIG PPV FIGHTER FOR A WHILE. AT 40% MANNY MAKES 6 TIMES WHAT HE WILL MAKE IN THE CLOTTEY FIGHT. FLOYD FIGHTS MARTINEZ,PAUL WILLIAMS, EVEN BRADLEY HE MAKES 40 MILLION AGAIN AND SELL OVER 1 MILLION PPV AGAIN MANNY GETS 500,000 PPV FIGHTING COTTO THEN 60/40 GOES OUT THE WINDOW. MANNY PUT HIMSELF IN THIS POSITION HE SHOULD LEARN FROM THE LAST TIME. TAKE THE 40% STUPID NOT TO.WHAT HAPPENED TO MANNY FIGHTS FOR THE PEOPLE NOT MONEY.
50/50 split is fair flyod should stop moaning and get it on
nice tony!!
LOL @ TONY COMMENT.
what’s up with this article? (sports writer who is a mayweather fan boy) What the F**k!!!
50/50 sounds more than reasonable for both fighters. Then people wonder why Mayfeather is always being criticized about fighting top class opponents. If you dont want to fight just retire Again.
i tell you why, pacman is the greatest fighter and flyod is the greatest fighter simple !