Haye not interested in Harrison bout, still talking with Klitschko – News
June 25th, 2010
By Chris Williams: The reports that World Boxing Association heavyweight champion David Haye (24-1, 22 KO’s) is interested in fighting 38-year-old Audley Harrison (27-4, 20 KO’s) are false. According to the 29-year-old Haye, he’s not interesting in fighting Harrison and is still looking to fight both of the Klitschko brothers. In an article at thesun.co.uk, Haye had this to say about the rumors that he’ll be fighting Harrison in November: “I looked on one of the boxing websites the other day and they even had a date for the fight. That made me laugh. At the moment, we’re talking to the Klitschkos, trying to make that deal. Audley’s just trying to get some headlines. If, by some miracle, I ended up in the same ring as him, I think everybody with half a brain cell would know what the result would be. I would go out there and mince him.”
Haye said previously that he wanted to fight both Klitschko brothers, unify the heavyweight titles before he retired at the age of 31. He also said he wanted to clean up the heavyweight division by taking on the best fighters. Thus far, Haye has only fought 38-year-old Monte Barrett, 36-year-old Nikolay Valuev and 38-year-old John Ruiz in the past two years while campaigning as a heavyweight.
That’s not exactly the kinds of fighters that you think would lead to Haye cleaning up the heavyweight division nor the kinds that would make you think that Haye is a new breed of heavyweight. For Haye to set himself apart from the other heavyweights, he has to fight the Klitschkos and other top heavyweights like Odlanier Solis, who already stopped Haye in the amateur ranks, Alexander Povetkin, Samuel Peter, Denis Boytsov, Tomas Adamek, Ruslan Chagaev, and Chris Arreola.
Haye says “The way I see it, I’ve got to beat both Vitali and Wladimir at some stage. They have different strengths and different assets, so I’d have to treat each fight differently. Both are fighters I feel I could beat but even if I was to do exactly that, there would be someone else. There always is. They you’d have to beat him and there’d be another one coming though, no matter what you do. I’ve always said I would retire at the end of next year. I started boxing when I was 10, and said then I would retire from boxing when I was 30. That’s still the time restraint I’ve set myself.”
Of course, there would be another heavyweight that boxing fans would want Haye to beat if he was to get past the Klitschkos. That’s the way boxing is. However, what makes it more so in this case is that Solis, the former 2004 Olympic Gold Medalist for Cuba, already stopped Haye in the past in the amateur ranks and is looking good as a pro. Naturally, fans would like to see Haye fight Solis at some point before Haye retires from boxing. But the chances of Haye beating either of the Klitschko brothers is very slime, despite what he says. He hasn’t looked sensational at heavyweight, and struggled to beat Valuev last year. This suggests that Haye is probably in over his head against either of the Klitschko brothers.
Haye might be able to increase his chances slightly by waiting them out until they age more and then trying to pick them off and get a win. However, with Haye looking to follow the dream he set out as a 10-year-old to retire by the time he reaches 31, that probably won’t be nearly old enough for the Klitschkos to have aged enough for him to beat either of them. Even at 40, Vitali would likely be far too much for the weak-chinned 6’2” Haye.
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i urge you to no longer be communicationg you views (try to make that into a real sentence) i urge you to cease communciating your views…see it can be done
jamie were those supposed to be sentences you wrote…first liston had such slow feet and poor footwork it was a constant joke in the gym..he was made for ali…but norton was not very good…he had little to recommend him and lost to many average fighters..yet fought ali to a standstill…floyd patterson was a small heavyweight with handspeed, actually a cruiserweight, and a china chin…foreman was strong and threw punches like an amateur….bonavena almost beat both ali and frazier…probably should have gotten the nod for the frazier bout..simply because he was strong—all 215 pounds of him—he had no footwork and couldnt throw a combination to save his life…holmes fought in a harder era and was the real greatest of all time..and nobody cares if you respond…
jj – Firstly try to be more succinct when you write. You don’t win an argument by boring people into submission.
Think of the phrase why use 1000 words when just 1 will do.
You make the following point:
- Ali fought in a poor era for heavyweight boxing because he had fought Ken Norton
This makes the following assumptions:
1. Ken Norton should be used to illustrate the standard of heavyweights that fought during Ali’s era
2. All the other fighters that Ali fought and beat were irrelevant; Joe Frasier, George Forman, Floyd Patterson, Sonny Liston
I’m afraid to inform you that due to the assumptions that your argument is based on it appears you are lacking in basic intelligence.
Therefore I would urge you to no longer be communicating your views as it shows a lack of dignity.
Out of respect to those with learning difficulties I will no longer reply to your posts.
It amazes me how dismisive people are concerning David Haye. Anyone who is a student of boxing will acknoweldge that both the Klitchko’s lack lateral movement, are labourious and predictable. Haye may be smaller granted, but his sheer speed and power will prove troublesome. This is after all, a 200 pound man with concussive knockout power hitting you with fast, accurate shots. For all the speculative hype surrounding the fight it’s easy to forget he was an undisputed cruiserweight champion. The last who went up to Heavyweight being Holyfield. So the calibre is there for all to see. In regards to Lewis, his record speaks for itself, period.
i am not a big vitali fan…nor was i a big lewis fan…they are big, awkward, and can often look bad in the ring..i prefer watching vlad..but he is boring as well…any of these guys would beat ali to a pulp…does that make them better…hell no…it means steroids make you powerful and szie and strength are very important…would holyfield have been a champion without them…hell no…would amadek and haye be contending at heavyweight without them…hell no…if a clumsy 190 pound leon spinks beat ali…i gotta think vitali would destory him…but i dont rank vitali in the top 10 because of it…i dont rank lewis in the top 10..they are big. so what..lewis running from vitali took him off my list…can you see holmes, foreman, ali, frazier joe louis, running away to avoid vitali…i think if vitali and lewis fought 20 times theyd each win 10…so what.. i dont see either of them as that good…but i also dont believe that vitali would duck anybody…its not in his dna…vladimir has incredible talent, incredible…speed, power, footwork, technique…he looks like a greek god…i dont even think his chin is that bad…just average…he just has no heart..and the greats were all heart
lennox was scheduled to fight kirk johnson, whom at the time i thought was a far better prospect than vitali…kirk got injured and pulled out of the fight at the last minute and vitali stepped in as a replacement…according to his trainer lewis agreed to a rematch if vitali fought johnson, beat him, and become 1 contender instead…vitali destroyed him and lewis backed out of the fight (according to m. s.) because he had assumed kirk would win and didnt want to fight vitali again…actually i thought kirk would win…
so called insider…you are quoting from an article about lewis possible return a couple of years ago…im talking about the original rematch that was promised…i am telling you what i read in ring magazine when his ex-trainer was interviewed…i think he may know more than you pretend to…
i just watched some early corrie sanders fights…he looked better against bert cooper than tyson did…he had amazing speed and power and probably more raw talent than anybody of his era…he fought rahman in a title eliminator to fight lewis…which then rahman won and become champion…corrie was winning early and had rahman down…but he had a bad knee and hadnt done any roadwork and ran out of gas…i would think he might have been champion if hed gotten the chance…he certainly hit harder and was faster than rahman and lewis was there to be taken that fight..im glad he had the title for a while…but vitali gave him a terrible beat down…a cracked cheek bone…broken nose…shattered ear drum…torn ear cartilages, cuts on his face…i thought he had a chance until i saw him jiggle into the ring
@Jackson trust to see you write in a Haye topic once again thats all you ever seem to do and stop telling people to look at facts when if you started to look at them yourself you’d see how wrong you were.
“and lewis trainer has plainly said that lewis retired to avoid vitali….he told vitali hed give him a rematch if he beat the 1 contender he was supposed to face before vitali…”
Wrong Lewis was going to have the rematch in the words of Vitali “I’ve talked to Lennox Lewis. I tell him, ‘Lennox, keep your word. You’re a gentleman. If you promised me (a rematch), you have to keep your word.’ One time, he invited me to his office in London and said, ‘I want to talk to you directly, no lawyers, no managers, just you and me.’ I came to his office and in the room was Lennox Lewis and his mom. I talked to Lennox for one hour, his mom looked at me and scanned his eyes for a long time. It was very funny. After that discussion, the next day Lennox Lewis called me and said, ‘you know what, I don’t want to fight you.’ It’s my personal opinion that that wasn’t the opinion of Lennox Lewis, but the opinion of his mom.”
faded old champion at 37 but at 36 and a half at the peak of his career…really…dont you sprain your ass reaching in it so often
jj. thanks for your response you obviously gave it a lot of thought. i respect your opinion but disagree with a lot of what you had to say.
i actually have to go to bed so can’t do justice to your piece by replying now, but i will at some point tomorrow.
once again thanks, peace to you.
by the way its been largely reported that mercer got the best of tyson in sparring most of the time…and tyson famously refused to fight him…even though hbo desperately wanted the fight…but vladimir took it instead…
by the way vitali was signed to fight tyson…it was his life long dream as he tells it, but tyson was fighting a tuneup with danny williams and of course lost…so vitali fought danny instead…so making things up to belittle a fighter is not the same as having facts…vitali was also once the full contact kick boxing champion of the world…i really dont think he would duck anybody on the street or otherwise…
i can tell what race a poster is because vitali ‘chose’ to fight an over the hill lewis…hed tried to get that fight for 2 years and had to step in as a last minture replacement…but also it was his fault if lewis was overweight or untrained…even though vitali was taking it oon 2 weeks notice..as though vitali sent over his overseers to prevent lewis from training….and then of course vitali could fight anyone he wanted to by merely saying so….tyson or holyfield would magically appear….reme mber though sanders is somebody lewis admitted that he avoided…most champions will not fight a southpaw…lewis never fought one…esp one who is fast and hits hard…every champion has ko losses on their record and you cant avenge them if you cant get them in the ring and also get someone to put up the money to sponser the fight.. its never as cut and dried as people pretend….vladimir destroyed mercer and lewis couldnt hurt him and probably deserved to lose that fight…just becaue yr white doesnt mean you can chose to make yr opponants fat and out of shape…such silliness…nor could vitali could a rematch to a fight he was winning when it was stopped…not because he didnt want it,,,but because lewis was afraid…there is no other interpretation….lewis was the best fighter of his era and vitali wasnt afraid of him..and i dont believe he was afraid of any fighter…ever…tyson had problems with tall fighters…holyfield would have been more difficult for him..though tyson was the better fighter overall.
jamie…silly stuff…ali struggled and could easily have lost all three decisions to norton…what did norton have? a decent chance, but it was mainly his strength that gave him trouble…ali was constantly pushed back and didnt have the punch to hurt him…..vladimir is far far better than norton…they both have an average chin…but vlad has a better jab,, better footwork,,,is faster….has a far better right hand…and has a great left hook..in short…he is head and shoulders above norton..whenever ali lost…we elevated the person he lost to rather than taking him down a notch…so suddenly a stiff, average fighter like norton because great…foreman who had nothing but power and was one of the worst boxers i have ever seen suddenly was great…and a short, clumsy, one-eyed frazier was great…
Dr R. This is what Vit and Wlad need/needed to do to sement a legacy:
Vit needed to have the guts to fight Tyson or Holyfield prior to 2000, he’s been around since 96 and the fact he chose not to fight them and beat them reduces his right to a legacy. He did eventually choose to fight an unmotivated, over the hill Lennox and was beaten……if he had won this bout it would have helped….but not enough. This was his chance, since then the quality has been poor and whoever he beats will mean he has no credibility to be compared to the best boxers of the 2nd half of the 20c.
Wlad too has been around for ever since 96 and he hasn’t fought any of the true greats of the era, Holy, Tyson or Lennox. In addition he lost to a couple of really poor fights(i.e. Corrie Saunders) and never avenged those defeats, unlike Lennox. Wlad is much younger and if the division improves and he beats some of the younger guys if they are considered credible he has a better chance than Vit of a legacy.
However realistically neither fighter will be remembered as anything more than the best fighters in a terrible era for heavyweight boxing who chose not to fight the best of the best when they had the chance.
PLS tell me WHO have the clits beat to cement their legacy????
name one super fighter they have beat???
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Big G has a great point. I have also been saying that Haye needs to fight a tough contender or contenders, so that he can be tested. Ruiz and Valuev are not good tests. If Haye can beat the likes of Peter, Arreola, Boytsov, Briggs, Tua, Adamek etc; then maybe Haye would recieve more respect etc.
haye not fightin the klits yet isnt the thing anoying me its the fact hes trash talkin but fightin over the hill guys..i agree with jackson if haye was to fight some1 decent ppl wud get off his back hed prob beat them haye has great power and id love to see a brit as undisputed champ but im stickin with my guns untill i see him fight some1 gd vlad and vitali wud both beat him….by the way to the idiot who said hayes takin time off with a sore hand..he hurt said he hurt his hand against valuev not ruiz u muppet so it wud hardly still be sore stop makin excuses……haye if ur not yet ready for a k bro fight some1 decent not bums plz
Haye, Just do it! Fight the Klitschkos. Fight them with your hands not your mouth. MF!!
DR FEATHERFIST
If the Klitschko’s are so over rated, why doesnt Haye back up all of his big talk and face them?
You mention Sanders KOIng Wladimir. Sanders was known to have fast punches and a lot of power behind those punches. Sanders did not fight Wladimir in a rematch and Wladimir has not been beaten for 6 yrs. Keep on trash talking the K’s. They will keep on winning though and they will win against tougher opponents than Haye!
valuev is a joke and david haye didnt have a broken hand..he never wore a cast, it was never treated…it was just more garbage for you fan-girls to recycle…where did valuev get to be this mythic great fighter everyone is afraid of..he lost to chageav…did you see what vlad did to chageav…he lost every round and was thoroughly beat down……how many times do i have to repeat it…look at valuev’s record….he has ducked every decent fighter…david took that fight because it was an easy way to get a belt…and there was no broken hand…a week after the fight there was no cast…..he looked meek and wanted an excuse…..valuev cant break an egg with his punch…and david looked terrified…a 46 year old holyfield did better than haye…and there was no broken hand…any injury that would hamper his ability to punch would also require a cast..i know…this is what i do for a living idiots…..he also went right back into training and you wouldnt do that with a broken hand either…take your heads out of davies ass and take a deep breath..the oxygen may get to your brain.
@Anonymous
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haye can end the whispering by fighting a couple of top tier fighters at anytime…chagaev,,,peter…anybody in the top 10 would do..fight someone with a pulse…not washed up fighters who had a title once, but live bodies…ruiz was 3-4 over his last 7 fights…he wasnt ranked in the top 30 by ring magazine…he hadnt beaten a contender in 3 years..he was just don king pet getting thrown a bone…he was no more a number one contender than haye is a champion…end the whispering…beating solis would do it…beating anyone who is a real challenge would do it…
you guys are jokes…ruiz hadnt beaten a contender in 3 years and was 3-4 over his last 7 fights….he was the number 1 contender in that organization because he is owned by don king…just like haye, valuev, holyfield, ruiz, chageav…they just take turns fighting each other avoiding real contenders…ruiz wasnt even ranked in the top 30 among ring magazine heavyweights…number one contender,,,,what a joke you guys are….you can pretend haye fought someone, but any expert or true fan can tell you ruiz was long gone…and never that good to begin with….solis would have knocked him out in 2 rounds…just like he did barrett….haye has a fake title, he is not heavyweight champion…you can pretend about that as well….but he is don king’s h, fighting a bunch of clubfighters or washed up has-beens for easy money
here we go again… another top article that struggles to give haye any credit, but yet focus on his flaws (which have seemingly fallen into some sort of chinese whispers effect). and all the xenophobic “know-it-alls” calling haye this and that, YOU ARE PATHETIC.
dr feather fist sam peter he beats after 5 years out jamilia foney the fat steroid user gets battered by sam peter do the math ‘
vitali showed courage, grit, skill, and power in his fight with lewis…as did lewis…they both deserve a lot of credit…they nearly killed each other…vitali was ahead…lewis was cut and hurt as well…but vitali’s cut was worse…it was a little lucky on lewis’ part…but the truth is…he ran from vitali after that…vitali is far older than him now and doesnt duck anyone…lewis ruined his legacy by ducking out of his last challenge.
@ no…
petty little cowards??
When was the last time america won a war? when did they ever compete against a powerful nation? They fight sand dancers and tree dwellers. Delta Force has perhaps the largest mission failure ratio of any nations special forces.
Haye is now ducking Harrison but has already signed Tyson Fury as his next opponent. After that he will face Joe Bugner and then Richard Dunn who are both coming out of retirement because they know Haye prefers older fighters.
Haye fighting old fighters?
what does that make vitali?he is nearly 40,wlad im scared to get hit …is in the wrong end of his 30′s….but i guess they wont be old when david ko’s them?…oh no sorry they will,point is the clit brothers are THE most OVERRATED “CHAMPS” OF ALL TIME,when a PRIME vitali struggled with a FAT & OLD & UN-MOTIVATED LENNOX LEWIS ..I SAW HIS TRUE COLORS!!AND AS FOR HIS BROTHER,ALL I GOT TO SAY???GOT KTFO BY A SOUTH AFRICAN GOLFER..LOLOLOL
i don’t think he would fight K brothers ever. He and Booth always have excuses ready. Back problem, not good deal, pregnant wife..it could be now Haye got tonsils?? lol
Why on earth would Haye want to fight Solis? He is a nobody.
Haye was undisputed cruiserweight champion and now heavyweight champion so whether you like him or not he has held numerous world titles. Haye is talking about the Klitschkos and your talking about Solis?
All of you who say Haye is scared of the brothers klit are just haters. As if he is scared of them? Why would he be? He wants to be the top guy and that means fighting the top fighters. Valuev – world champion. Ruiz – former world champion and No.1 contender and now the Klitschkos.
Harrison and Solis can fight each other. How about that?
Oh Davids wife just had a baby, Oh he didn’t like the contract, Oh his back is hurt, Oh he’s not avoiding anyone, just wait and see he is so fast and powerful, Oh please give me a break, he’s a fruitcake with obvious mental problems and his skills are not of championship level and does not deserve a chance of a fight with the upper class of the division. Oh but still some of you support him and I find that very sad.
Again these british morons try to find a reason for haye not to fight anyone from the top 20. And thats after manny steward called him a puppy hiding under the bed. Brits are clinical. they deserve to be a nation of petty little cowards as they are.
the k’s are so overrated. wlad lost to Corrie Saunders and vit to an unmotivated lennox.i hate to think what lennox would have done to vit if there was a rematch, maybe he would have cried like Olly or needed 100 docs like Rahman. i think vit was a lucky boy not to have found out.
anyway we all know the k’s are average and there is nothing around and even when there is like Valuev they ducked him, as they too no risks even though they should have tried to unify. i’m very interested to see vit v. valuev. i call it 50/50.
also haye has been offered 60/40 by wlad so far, and as haye v. wlad is the only fight in town at the moment wlad needs to offer 50/50 to make it happen. haye don’t need the fight, he should fight audley, arreola and maybe corrie sanders (ha ha ha); make some money and then fight wlad.
sorry wlad but you had your chance to have the belt as you’ve been around forever, and haye just got it so you’ll have to wait a bit longer you bish.
david’s wife has just given birth so he was concentrating on that not the fight with the klitschkos or any fight at all. now david will be chomping at the bit to get in the ring with either of the klitschkos. haye will beat them both.
hahaa yeah he wants wlad so much that he didnt jump at the chance for a 50/50 no option deal
If haye fights one of the klits I will pay for it.That would be worth the money .A unified championship bout.
haye is a skidmark on the underpants of boxing society same as mayweather hahaha
I laughed when I read Q’s comment, I totally agree with it
Let a Klitschko fight Valuev (with a broken hand) and then we’ll see how much better they are than Haye.
haye booth joined at the backside
adam booth the ugliest freak ever
haye pusy
Haye is lying to his fans again saying he is still trying to make a deal with the Klitschko’s his the one trying to stay in the light not Audley.
I’m a boxing fan and have no interest in him fighting Solis? I’ve never even heard of the guy. Klitshkos will do nicely
Haye has had a baby recently and nursing a damaged hand from his last fight. I imagine that’s why he hasn’t got back in the ring or released a little a statement to please you rumour mongerers.
Why don’t you judge him when he finishes his career rather than waste your energy berating a man for having his own way of doing things.
He’s come out now to distance himself from Harrison, that means his next fight is only goin to be against a live opponent as many would agree Adamek, Povetkin, or a K Bros.
This article is biased from the outset when it suggests he barely beat Valuev! He didn’t get hit or hurt once by that freak
haye is a chronic liar…but you always want to believe him because he looks the part of a heavyweight champion…
IT BETTER BE TRUE
Haye hasn´t said a word in like 3 months, odd, very odd.
arreola a top heavyweight??? hahahahahhahahhahahah
David Haye is the younger brother of Floyd Mayweather.They have the same big mouth and boastful. They promote themselves as if they are the kings of boxing. They both talk too much and at the same time praising themselves without waiting boxing authority’s permission. Instead of boxing fans to cheer and praise them, they are being criticized in every corner of the world. It is not good for boxing champion to be boastful. My comment for them is to be humble so that they would be victorious in every bout they fight and people pray for them. He can never beat anyone of the clitschko brothers. He will be knockout, a big lesson for him
Haye is deff talking sh*t.. He’s to much of a coward to fight k bro’s!!
ok hope it gets done