Floyd Mayweather Jr. versus Manny Pacquiao: The blame game explained
June 23rd, 2010
By Babatis Banda: While it is true that these are probably the best two P4P fighters in the world today, they are surely not cut from the same cloth. The factors that have made these two successful are almost completely parallel and are so easy to see. It is important to understand these factors to understand what shapes them into what they are, and may be hugely responsible for the current impasse.
In pure contrast, Floyd ‘Money’ Mayweather is a pure talent. He has boxed his way up and made a name and a character for himself. Floyd Mayweather jnr. Is a somewhat smart business person and at the same time, he does not take unnecessary risk with little reward, he does not like punishment at all. His approach to boxing says it all…safety first, don’t get hit while you hit. Like he says, “there is nothing cool about being hit”. This explains why Floyd has developed into a defensive maestro, undisputed by all. Floyd Mayweather Jnr is the master of what he does, once he is in it, his concentration seems unmatched and his abilities unquestionable.
Not to mention the confusion the press has injected into the Floyd/Manny possible match-up, the contrasting personalities of the two are hugely responsible for the impasse. First of all, the rumors and the unsubstantiated stories fueled the debate, polarizing everybody who dared to care and affected the egos of both fighters. Fans of both camps seem to believe that their opposition is to blame and for sure, both are just as guilty. To start with, by the mare fact that Floyd asked for a drug test is recognition of the fact that Manny is extra-ordinary otherwise why worry? At the same time, it is possible that this was a genuine concern, Manny was ravaging and terrorizing the elite in the sport and in the most terrible manner! Again, Manny should have just taken the test, clear the people’s minds and as usual, get on with it. I have a feeling that Manny would have done so, but I see influences to the contrary by Roach and Arum.
It is not difficult to figure out what danger each pose to the other. Manny is a work devil, always working, and working hard. The question is…can Floyd keep up with Manny’s work rate? Can Floyd manage to tame Manny’s power? Can Floyd manage to solve the southpaw puzzle? These are the only areas of concern for one Floyd Mayweather jnr. On the other hand, Floyd is the master boxer, there is no known antidote to his venom as it stands today. Will Manny manage to find him? Will Manny’s power and work rate negate Floyd’s efficiency, superb counter punching and ring intelligence? One thing for sure is that Floyd is not any of the fighters Manny has fought. Floyd has to some degree, faced many Pacquiaos in his career, you may agree or may not agree, this is how I see it. Styles make the fights.
It boils down to personalities, Manny is ready to go for it, not withstanding his teams influences on testing and other issues. Floyd takes no risks with little rewards, and there is no reason why he should, but this one is the biggest reward and common sense tells me he will take it. Floyd enjoys some luxury that Manny does not, he will demand this and that because he feels he can, but finally it will happen. Manny Pacquiao has the will to win, and Floyd Mayweather jnr. has the tools to win. I see it this way…..it is a battle of will against ability.
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to me this is a close fight ,i try not to be bias but i think manny has a great chance.floyds skills are second to none.but how the hell did mayorga beat forrest after spanking a prime mosley more than floyd did.how did average tarver spank roy jones??? ken norton beat ali easy why mayorga tarver and norton far less skilled than there opponents,win? im going far floyd just on points he may get dropped too! how many times did manny drop marquez three times in just over a minute..floyd dropped a fat out of shape jmm once in 36 mins and came in 2lbs over the limit floyd set.remember guys manny came from 108 and as every1 states floyd is bigger longer reach more skilled so why the stall??? manny boxed cotto at 145, so why was cotto weight drained? he weighed in his previous fight with clottey 146 so 1lbs means hes weight drained?? hatton was finished when he fought manny? why? he just stopped paulie far the first time and looked good.manny boxed hatton at his unbeaten weight light welter.floyd made ricky come up in weight,rick was 143? clearly no welter and floyd looked scared far first 6 rds untill rik tired.just far the record callazo beat hatton in his only orther fight at welter.watch it guys rik almost gets stopped in the 12th.jmm beat manny in the second fight far sure moraless beat manny to in close fight,so yea yea yea he is beatable.agapito sanchez was wiping the floor with manny untill the fight got stopped and went to the score cards.luky sanchez had to points deducted because he wouldve lost not drawn.fans should not be bias.hope the fight happens
@WESS, the world knows the numbers, yet they they try to elevate Pacquiao to create a fight. Based on those numbers, a 40% cut to Pacquiao is more than generous.
Indeed a very objective and well-written article! I just hope that the Dave Lahrs and the Chris Williams of this world will learn to write this way.
Yawn….Ho Hum…..Let it go people.
Until some sorta announcement is made, all these articles, comments, debates etc. are just overkill and pointless.
All the rest of the boxing sites, and the boxing world in general, stopped talking baout this fight.
WHY CAN’T THE WRITERS OF THIS SITE DO THE SAME?
Let it go for now, do something else, focus on other fighters, focus on other sports, something, anything, get a life.
It’s getting to be a fixation on these writer’s parts.
And believe me, IT AIN’T HEALTHY.
The author is right, this is sheer will and passion against skill and fear. One guy kisses dollar bills before he fights and the other says a prayer. With a nation behind him and no fear in his heart Manny will beat the odds and outwork and wear down Floyd and win this fight. Booooyeeeeeaaaah!
the problem with being undefeated is the scare of lossing grows worse as the wins pile up and before you realize it you’ve run out of balls!!! tsk! tsk! tsk!
THese are the lefteis Lil FLoyd has Faced and his record against them. R. Sandsers UD Bobby Giepert KO1 Jesus Chavez TKO5 Demarcus Coreley UD SHarmba Mitchell TKO6 Zab Judah UD WHat Problem? 6-0 with three KO’s ( and Zab was on his way) Stop wit the south paw BS Thats what everyone says about Lefties it not Just about Lil’ FLoyd
the pile driver you’re funny!
hahahahaha
Mayweather vs Gatti – 365,000 buys = $16.5 million revenue
Mayweather vs Judah – 375,000 buys = $16.8 million revenue
Mayweather vs Baldomir – 325,000 buys = $16.3 million revenue
Mayweather vs De La Hoya – 2.4 million buys = $136.6 million revenue
Mayweather vs Hatton – 920,000 buys = $50 million revenue
Mayweather vs Marquez – 1 million buys = $52 million revenue
Mayweather vs Mosley – 1.4 million buys = $78.3 million revenue
Total PPV fights: 7
Total PPV Buys: 6.8 million buys
Total PPV Revenue: $366.5 million revenue
Average PPV per fight: 970,000 buys
Average Revenue per fight: $52.3 million
Pac PPV
Note: Pac’s fight with Oscar Larios in the Philippines was PPV but the data wasn’t available. So it isn’t included
Pacquiao vs Morales I – 350,000 buys = $15.7 million revenue
Pacquiao vs Morales II – 360,000 buys = $16.2 million revenue
Pacquiao vs Morales III – 350,000 buys = $17.5 million revenue
Pacquiao vs Solis – 200,000 buys = $16.2 million revenue
Pacquiao vs Barrera II – 350,000 buys = $17.4 million revenue
Pacquiao vs Marquez II – 400,000 buys = $20 million revenue
Pacquiao vs Diaz – 250,000 buys = $11 million revenue
Pacquiao vs De La Hoya – 1.25 million buys = $45 million revenue
Pacquiao vs Hatton – 850,000 buys = $45 million revenue
Pacquiao vs Cotto – 1.25 million buys = $70 million revenue
Pacquiao vs Clottey – 700,000 buys = $35.3 million revenue
Total PPV Fights: 11
Total PPV Buys: $6.3 million buys
Total PPV Revenue: 324.3 million revenue
Average PPV per fight: 570,000 buys
Average Revenue per fight: $29.4 million revenue
As you can see Mayweather who “retired” at one point has sold more and fought less less.
Let’s just look at their last 3 fights:
Pac:
Clottey: 700k
Cotto: 1.25 million
Hatton: 850k
Total: 2.8 Million PPV buys
Mayweather:
Mosley: 1.4 million
JMM: 1 million
Hatton: 920K
Total: 3.3 million PPV buys
Floyd sold about 500k more PPV than Pac in their last 3 fights
That is quite a difference, as 500K PPV buys is a successful event in itself.
You may ask, What about Oscar De La Hoya? Do you really want to go there?
Pac vs Hoya = 1.2 million
Mayweather vs Hoya = 2.4 million
Which is STILL 1.2 million buys difference in FAVOR of Floyd Mayweather. No matter how you work it. Floyd has always sold and made more than Pac. Its only facts. You do the math.
@Hayzus, you don’t build all of those Casinos on Vegas losing!!!
If Floyd vs many don’t materialize at least can we have Floyd sr vs Freddie roach instead? It’ll be an awsome battle. Floyd sr will talk s@&t till roach head bleeds and Freddie will twitch his way through Floyd sr for a knock out. It’ll be a night to rember
WESS you’re funny!
hahahahahah
@ The Pile Driver
Last time I checked, Vegas been loosing money every time Pacquiao fights. Larry Merchant said it best. Vegas and betting expert have Cotto as favorite to win but the paper shows that many people have bet big money on Pacquiao. They must know something that Vegas don’t.
@Wess
Bravo sir well said
So is that what is come to? We make excuses for Manny’s Losses? Well Floyd needs no excuse because he hasn’t lost. Not when He was injured ( Castillo) not when he had to where bigger gloves ( De La Hoya) not when he struggled to make weight (Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chávez) not even when he got hit flush by one of the hardest punchers in recent history. A guy who 2 fights ago dispatched a full middle weight (Mayorga) with one punch. The fact is that 7 of lil Floyds last 8 fights have been against champions (JMM was the light weight champion) and one was #2 P4P. His last three opponents were top 7 P4p. Manny last 3 fights? Has beens and retreads
well wess the mosley showed 2 things, mayweather is beatable n that u can get through his defens, but u jus have 2 execute after that, mosley couldnt so he lost, jus think of a faster n stronger pacquiao wud do 2 floyd if he gets him wit dat same strait dat mosley did
“Pacquiao is not afraid of pain, he seems to relish pain as if to say, no pain, no sweet”
Didn’t Pac say he’s afraid of needles? I mean those hurt…..
“The question is…can Floyd keep up with Manny’s work rate? Can Floyd manage to tame Manny’s power? Can Floyd manage to solve the southpaw puzzle”?
For one, listen to Master coach and 3X trainer of the year Freddie Roach when he talks about how he think the fight would go 12 rounds. Also note that he stated that pac isn’t ready for a fighter like Mayweather. Roach knows this will be a game of chess and he “hopes” that Pac can see what he sees. He Pac won’t get through his defense.
Also note that when you speak of this “southpaw puzzle”, remember who were talking about. Mayweather is the guy that takes your best ability and uses it against you. Pac won’t be as aggressive (actually look for him to be passive at times). He will throw less and will at times fight out of retaliation and be very very open and exposed to Mayweather’s VERY aggressive counter punching defensive style that is perfectly made for a fighter like Pac who comes forward. Think about connect percentages. Mayweather connects at a higher percentage than most phone providers. Think about how open Pac was for Clottey (the cherry picked bum). Mayweather will surely hit him at will because Pac can’t get out of the way of anything…
The much “smaller” man (7 inch reach DISADVANTAGE too) Pac will be exposed and technically beaten to the point that people WILL contradict themselves and say Mayweather always fights “smaller fighters” and is ducking PWILL and Sergio Martinez….
When the whole world doubts you,
Your own country has little faith in you.
Denied an early victory because of a bad call,
You don’t give up,you give it you’re all.
Landon and his team showed heart and spirit,
In front of adversity, they fought on, never quit.
So as to keep the dream alive in South Africa,
That someday the trophy will come to America.
I know, we are all fans of boxing,
Support our guys achieve the dream.
World Cup 2010.
GO USA!!! GO USA!!! GO USA!!!
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moneypack is te, if that was manny he would have killed floyd, n unlike mosley who put his all n one punch manny doesnt, mosley put his weight bhind it n couldnt stop once he landed the first right that gave flolyd the opertunity to hold on, manny is shorter faster n stronger, n he does not put all his power n one punch
glass joe, pacquiao wasnt getting knocked out by club fighter, when he entered both fights he was malnurited n probly undertrained, n then n the first he had 2 where heavier gloves, thats the onli time he was knocked out, n if u were really draining urself of 15 20 pounds 2 fight someone who was naturally a small guy at that little weight class u wouldnt last long either so shut the fuuuucck up
@The Pile Driver
A 38 yr. old Mosley doesn’t need a math equation or an algebra formula to hit Floyd twice that buckled him like a spaghetti noodle. If that was Pacquiao against Floyd it would have been lights out for Floyd in a stetcher, worst than Hatton.
This was one of the less bias articles I’ve read on this subject ont this fight. I just dont understand why peole continue to question Floyds heart. I’ve seen Floyd hurt three times and each time he came back to dominate the fight( Corley, Judah,Mosley) in a fashion that few could. We praise fighter fo getting up off the deck. Floyd was not on his back; but for all in tents and purposes he was out on his feet agianst Mosley. and instead of getting on his bycicle He took the fight to Mosley. the same with Judah. moving up in wiehgt going Into the first Castillo fight he came in knowing his shoulder was injured but never said a word until after the fight. Could he have pulled out? Most fighters would but Floyld fought and won. When People were saying he was gifted the fight He did what Paquioa refused ( and is still rufusing to do)to do for Marquez and grant Casttillo an immediate remactch and thoroughly dominated him. He was fighting grizzled veteran fighter when Paquioa was being Ko’d by club fighters. winning champioships when other fihgter of his era were still haveing there A*@es whiped by there scared promoters. So why is Floyds heart questioned
Children, understand this is a BUSINESS!!! It will be signed when the business at hand is settled. Know and understand that!
Stevie Wonder could hit Pacquiao. Its hard to hit Mayweather even with Radar. The fight game is hit and not get hit.
No mathematical equation or algebraic formula can come up with with an answer as to how Manny Pacquiao can beat Floyd Mayweather. All I read from the Pacquiao fan club is that Manny has “Heart”, he has the “Will” to beat Floyd Mayweather. Implying that Floyd doesn’t possess those qualities.
However; Floyd can add the “Skill Factor” that Manny Pacquiao never learned. That’s what you get from having boxing pedigree. A huge advantage.
If Floyd is 100% sure that he will beat the smaller guy…why not sign the contract?…what’s holding him up? Come on Floyd fans…make him sign it.
Good article
no one gives a hoot – the world cup is on
beat pacman to a pulp!!! Come on Floyd, don’t show a little mercy on Pacquack!!!!!!
sign the BLOODY CONTRACT!!!!!!
One thing the Pacmaniacs are right about Floyd: He is greedy. LOL. Why take a bigger slice of the pie from the guy you’re gonna beat to a pulp? ROFL. Come on Floyd, show a little mercy on Pacquack. LOL.
the LION floyd?!! so sign the BLOODY CONTRACT!!!!!!!!!!!!
@The Pile Driver: Go tell them, brother, go tell them. LOL.
These Pacnuthuggers just don’t understand that ‘Manny Pacquiao’ is a fabricated entity. A very likable, charismatic and humble fella but a B class boxer. A poster boy who was put atop a pedestal for the sole purpose of getting milked by Arum, the networks, the media, the alphabet titles powers-that-be and literally everybody who makes his living through boxing the sport. And now that he is one fight to retiring, he is being fed to the lion. The lion here being Floyd Jr.
Pacquiao – “Mayweather is afraid to fight me”.
Dang, boy!!!
Ya accusin’ my boy Floyd???!!!
Floyd, comma over here. This man here sez’ you’re afraid of figtin’ him.
Floyd!!! Where ya at boy?
Floyd, say it ain’t so.
Floyd!!! What?!! I can’t hear ya!!!
Shut up David Haye, let Floyd answer for his self!
What??? Dang!!! Come out from under that bed!!!
And you too David Haye!!!
Listen up, them guys said – the Klitschko guy and that Pacquiao guy, sez’ you boys are afraid to fight ‘em.
What??? I can’t hear ya!
What??? Yo, get back here!!!
Yo!!! David!!! Yo!!! Floyd!!!
Dang!!! They’re off…
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anonymous – could’ve used the lion metaphor but lions eat defenseless lion cubs
all knows it? I dint know….
sign the BLOODY CONTRACT!!!!!… and we’ll see if you’re right
manny is the king of cheaters…we all know it
sign the BLOODY CONTRACT!!!!!!!!!!
Mayweather Senior says:
June 23, 2010 at 6:27 am
DOWN GOES PACAIUO, from a straight right hand of Mayweather. This is the third knockdown of the round and it looks like pacaiuos left eye is swollen completely shut! Finally freddie roach throws in the towel to save his fighter any more punishment! Mayweather wins an easy ko in the tenth round!
so sign the contract!!!!!!!
Hey all,
Here’s a good idea,
Why don’t Floyd take the same PED as Manny’s alleged PED,
then they will have the same condition isn’t it?
Go ahead, take your PED…the commission looks away and says nothing, the fight is on.
Do you think, with that kind of a level playing field, Floyd will win against Manny?
Come on Floyd…we know that you know that there’s no PED use.
You think that Manny is a SUPER, w/ super-natural powers.
FEAR is the reason why this fight is not getting made.
I’m ALIVE!
yo cage
he is in a tigers cage but theres a lion in there son.
Floyd is not drained, he’s not over rated, he’s not coming off of a loss, he’s not a beaten fighter, he’s not predictable…
Go go go floyd sign the contract!!!!!
moneyweather junior talks too much and covers his face a lot. same with juan marquez. all talk no walk. pacman however is like an evolving predator. he will find a way to dismantle and destroy any defense/offense strategy. its not a matter of pride or money, pacman is pure primal instincts. its like being in the tigers cage, fresh meat, to be torn to pieces. you can see it in pacmans eyes. nothing personal. just having dinner.
A BLOODY WIPEOUT! Pacquiao will see what it means to have skill in the boxing game. Throwing a volume of punches amounts to very little while facing a fighter that has perfected, timing, distance, defense, accuracy, and preparation.
I refuse to quibble with the little guys, but I say let’s talk the day after the fight!!!
I AM A BIG FAN OF **MAYWEATHER** BUT I HAVE 2 BE HONEST I THINK HE IS REALLY SCARED FOR THE FIRST TIME
MAYWEATHER IF YOU READ THIS FIGHT THE MAN AND PROVE THAT YOUR THE BEST EVERY BOXER THAT WANTS 2 BE THE BEST FIGHT THE BEST AND IF YOU DON’T WANT 2 BOX THIS GUY JUST SAY SO THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEEN SCARED BEEN SCARED IS PART OF NATURE WHAT IS NOT PART OF NATURE IS LIEING 2 YOUR SELF AND YOUR** FANS*
Great article, not one-sided and a fresh read amongst the mess of worn-out articles based on fan-boy opinions.
Hey FLOMOS…Good to hear from you again…been knocked out by BWAA for 3weeks hah!
HAHAHA Someone is using my name.
Which ever of you did that, pretty creative.
However, it was still an obvious cry for attention.
-The REAL Nick Winner…
This is my second and last comment on this blog. So ignore any from the Fake Nick Winner after.
fixed fixed fixed
Mayweather vs. Mosley
fixed fixed fixed
F I X E D
@Tich, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
PACQUIAO AND TYSON….Hmmmm…NEVER STOP BELIEVING MAN!
I guarantee if they do fight Pacquiao will be able to throw only half that amount and his connect rate will be pathetic.
as i see this … wait till November is my THEME …
come Nov 14, i betcha, all these Floydie fans will be ranting with all kinds of excuses .. on why FLoyd lost to Pacquiao …
Oh, I will have a blast seeing how many people are pro-Floyd or NOT ..
See you in November … don’t spend all your money, Floyd doesn’t care about you …
Amateur banter … my a** … you think you are better than us? same old coach potato (potatoe .. same difference) … STF … eat your words .. no go downstairs and clean the floor .. WTF .. you know who you are …
See you in November … start writing your excuses … i betcha they are doozies …
Mayweather is scared. He wants out. He and his handlers are putting in hurdles even the boxing governing body won’t. That way, they can cover up their fear of losing. I don’t blame him and am not surprised. Hand-picked, has beens are the targets Mayweather likes. Not ones to whom he likely will lose against.
To many Pacquiao fans are saying that how will FMJ handle Manny throwing 1000 or more punches. I
@mb
you doughnut Hatton and ODLH were both beaten by Mayweather before Pac got em who has Pac fought in their prime Mayweather is the greatest fighter out their at the moment
@nick winner@pile driver- Pac is another version of tyson ,very explosive but against technically gifted boxers like Floyd he will be knocked out. Since JMM, Pac has never fought a counter puncher only brawlers and Pac fans forget that OSCAR was a dead man walking when he fought Pac. Pac fans will be shocked when Pac is knocked out.
@ACA, I am betting heavily that the midget gets knocked out. The best odds with Las Vegas is determining which round it will happen. Don’t forget Vegas is in the business of making money not losing it. Go right ahead and bet on the one with the little short, tiny arms.
Let me remind you…Floyd is not a drained Delahoya, Cotto with a Catchweight, or a Clottey that won’t fight back.
I won’t tell you how to gamble with your money, but if its on the little fella its safer in your pocket.
can’t wait till November 14 .. want to see what the excuses are from the Floydie fans …
anyone betting they will come up with some doozies on why Pacquiao won?
Amateurs .. as if you are a “professional” .. get a life … coach potato … you know who you are … WTF
See you in November … tralalalala
at pile driver.
you are right. absolutely right…so are you down with the hot dog eating contest?….we could practice back at my place during the night….
12 year old Pinoys playing with names again…How do you guys deal with these Pinoy ants?
So long…
@Pile Driver
Yes, Las vegas gave Pac an almost “zero” percent chance to win this one.
Just like the time when they gave him almost the same percentage against Dela Hoya, Hatton and Cotto. Do i have to remind you what the outcome was from those fights?
So go ahead, go with the vegas odds, They’re “perfect” right?
who cares who makes the most.its time 2 get it on.did sugar ray avoid hagler,hearns r duran no.may can not avoid this fight,history demands it
@Nick, hey man I am new to this site and I see the amateur comments and I am amazed. True fans that see and understand the game know that this whole buildup is bogus.
It will be a blowout. Manny will look much the same as JMM or possibly worse because he can’t counterpunch as well as JMM.
One thing I do agree with is that Manny should ask for as much as he can because he will take an horrific beating.
His head, face and brain will suffer a terrible toll!
10 rounds to 2 Mayweather or the fight will be stopped for cuts and blood.
@pile driver
how can i join this contest?. i have a long throat, so i know i have a good chance at winning the contest….i use to swallow dodger dogs whole like nothing…..with mayonaise on them…ummm ummmmmmmmm..
Well enough said on that note. i have to go people. iam attending a hot dog eating contest. its going to be an easy win for me cuz the weiners there are very very big and i will chomp those babies down like it aint no thang…yea yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa….
@Pile Driver
Come Novermber, I will humbly accept defeat if Pacquiao loses. I wonder if you will, betcha you will find some excuse on why Floydie lost to Pacquiao. Betcha?
See you in November … amateur boxers … as if you are a professional …. my a** … your just a lounge potato thinking you’re someone else … why blog if you are that “good” … WTF …
@The Pile Driver
THANK YOU! Finally someone can take a step back and say the obvious!
People get so caught up in all that Pacquiao has been doing as of recently. What they forget is that Roach is a MASTER at making his fighters looks good, while protecting them.
Mayweather F.T.W.
@PileDriver
I for one, will humbly, accept defeat if Pacquiao loses in November. How about you? By your “ranting” I believe you will come out with excuses on why Floyd lost … betcha?
All I can say … “see you in November” ….
we’ll see alan K…
Pacquiao didnt get to this level by sheer will alone…it takes a tremendous physical abilities to get where he is at…which unfortunately for the boxing world comes every century…much like Roy Jones. Mayweather will be facing one of the best southpaw in history if not the greatest southpaw of all time. Im not sure if Mayweather can duck,block,slip and dodge 800-1000 punches from pacquiao,after all, he aint Goku. He can counterpunch but pac throws enough to catch mayweather counterpunching anyways, and if Mayweather comes forward pac is just as great a counterpuncher as he shown on DLH,Hatton and Cotto fight. Forwards,backwards,defensive,counterpunching,offensive. IT WONT MATTER! Floyd can pick his own poison
for your information AnakNgHuweteng is not a filipino. she’s just copied that name… and she’s a woman..
The fight probably won’t be announced until after the fifa cup is done….They don’t want to take away any shines from a global game. Besides…they don’t want to share the limelight with anyone. This will certainly fly off the charts when they announce it. It won’t even need that much promotion. 24/7 will be off the charts too. From the looks of things, May and Pac are just throwing things to the media to keep the hype up. No matter how much people say they are tired of this and that…attitudes will change when they announce the fight. Dueces
Another unbiased article, I am on boxing news 24 am I?
I don’t think either fighter is scared of the other, that’s rubbish come on and despite what they are both saying they DO RESPECT EACH OTHER and know this is a massive fight once in a life time kind of fight and I guarentee you all the respect will be there after the fight, who ever wins will say the other is the best fighter they have faced that I am convinced of.
I think Floyd Mayweather will get the bigger slice of the pie but I think he will have to give ground on the blood testing issue and therefore agree to a cut off date maybe the 14 days but in all honesty I couldn’t care less who agrees to what just get in the ring and fight becouse they are starting to get on my nerves the pair of them.
EMT TRUCK AND PARAMEDICS WILL BE THERE STANDING BY WITH A STRETCHER AND A BLACK BODYBAG READY FOR FLOYD, YOU WATCH.
pacquiao will take all the test that is required. but he will not agree on every single demand from the guy who beat an overweight marquez and an old mosley in the last 3 years. pacquiao wouldve KO marquez at 144 and mosley last may 2010 with that performance.
floyd isnt scared of anyone he looks at this like a buissness. floyd made more by himself then the entire clottey manny event made. he would be an idiot to give manny 50/50. dont realy care for the split though. hope all is worked out and fight happens. manny saying floyd is scared is not going to make him say f it and give manny half. hopefully floyd and arum can get this worked out.
@AnakNgHuweteng says:
All you Pacquiao fans out there have to admit one thing. For some strange reason Team Pacquiao was spooked by the random blood testing, for some strange reason.
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Ahh you’re back again..good thing you stick your hatred back to Pac again…the last time, it was the whole Phil. country you downgraded…and not ot mention that you are Fil too….a DISGRACE! hllrk pwe!
All you Pacquiao fans out there have to admit one thing. For some strange reason Team Pacquiao was spooked by the random blood testing, for some strange reason.
mayweather is very good at whay he does but theres always someone better out there and pac-man is that man he has giving in to all his demands but now 60-40 is a p**s take. If they think they can whoop him as they say take 40-40 with the winner the extra 20% this fight will come off it has to. To much money involved there just trying to hype this fight up make us wait then we all pay through the roof for ppv pac man to win by ko mosley hurt him in round 2 but ran out of steam pac-man wont defo ko
All you Mayweather fans out there have to admit one thing. For some strange reason the Mayweathers are spooked by Paquioua for some strange reason.
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW THE MAIN REASON WHY FLOYD IS SCARED TO FIGHT MANNY PACQUIAO? THE ULTIMATE AND FINAL ANSWER IS: PLEASE LISTEN ATTENTIVELY, FLOYD MAYWEATHER’S ENTIRE BOXING CAREER HAS NEVER BEEN TAINTED WITH A DEFEAT. THAT IS A FACT AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT. THE REASON WHY HE IS AFRAID TO FACE PACMAN IN THE RING BECAUSE HE KNOWS MANNY WILL NEVER STOP COUNTER PUNCHING HIM. HE HAS NEVER EXPERIENCED A BRUTAL PUNISHMENT IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE AND MOST OF ALL HE IS SCARED TO SLEEP ON TOP OF THE RING WITHOUT PILLOW LIKE RICKY HATTON IN THE PRESENCE OF MILLIONS EYES WORLDWIDE. THIS CAN BE JUSTIFIED FOR NOT FIGHTING MANNY PACQUIAO. SO LET US SEE EVERYDAY’S DEVELOPMENT.
Who cares about this fight anymore? If this fight hasn’t been made by now it never will. The longer it takes to get these two primadonnas too fight the less I want to see it. There are plenty of good fighters out there and good matches to be made out there than to sweat these two fighters. If you are a fan of the sport of boxing than you would understand my point.
If view are both so confident why not make the purse 100/0!!! Winner takes all!!
Someone should just lock these two pansies in a room and tell them they can’t get back to their stupid huge houses and $600 haircuts until they come to an agreement.
Stop treating these guys like they are Gods and treat them like the FIGHTERS they are…
The world has made pro athletes such princes now, they aren’t even tough anymore. Pathetic.
Mayweather came back from retirement because he ran out of money. He intended to fight Pacquiao but needed a tune-up against someone beatable like Marquez. After Paquiao beat Cotto, the Mayweathers changed their mind. They accused him of using PEDs which is a cunning tactic. First, the uncle (or father?) claimed PEDs can only make Paquiao strong but nothing else. Paquiao way back claimed that he lost to Morales because of blood drawn too close to their fight. By accusing Pacquiao and demanding random testing, the Mayweathers accomplished four things: (1) destroyed Pacquiao’s reputation which Pacquiao indirectly helped along by giving weak politically-incorrect excuses (2) make Pacquiao weak by constant drawing of blood (3) give the impression that Mayweather ‘really’ want to fight Pacquiao, and (4) by mentioning Mayweather in the same conversation with Pacquiao, he regained most of his pre-retirement popularity.
All this talk about whipping Pacquiao reinforces point 4. The current silence on Mayweather’s part reinforces point 3 and the gag is working to his favor.
Since he got $40M from fighting Mosley, Mayweather has obtained enough money to pay debts and retire again. Fighting Pacquio is no longer necessary but preserving zero is. Of course, expect drum-beating points 3 and 4 above to continue. But the fight will never happen.
Heck! I empathize my self with Floyd,,backed up with his fans off all the talent he has….I would go up there and prove them wrong….but it’s just me….not Floyd.
Pac owes us an explanation, not a roach/arum scripted one liner either, but a real explanation. Dec, 14 days was not good, now 14 days is fine. !4 days held stopped the fight from happening then, so if 14 days is alright now, he owes us an explanation, because that squarely places the blame of the fight not happening on his shoulders. 14 not good then, no fight, but now 14 days is good he supposedly want to fight. 14 days stopped the fight then, that was Pac choice. So the question Pac needs to honestly answer is if back then 14 days was a no go, why in the heck is 14 days good now? So when anyone look at it for what it is, 14 days stopped the fight then and left us all mad, now 14 days he ok with. Is this bi-polar behavior or did someone finally get close enough to him to educate him and say hey dude, the small amount of blood taken has been proven medically that it can not and will not in any way affect your ring capabilities. I mean he is a congressman, you would think he would have already known that little fact, but hey, you never know.
My boy Floyd is a defensive fighter.
Part of his defensive strategy is to avoid fighting with Manny Pacquiao.
Floyd will not admit that he is afraid of Manny Pacquiao.
But Manny Pacquiao is a big threat, his dad, uncle and everyone close to him knows this, even the fans know this.
If he get’s caught with one of Manny Pacquiao’s bombs, his career and his big ego will be carried out of the ring on a stretcher, leaving behind his zero loss record.
The Mayweathers are so worried about this, Manny Pacquiao is their biggest nightmare nowadays.
All the talking and hyping in the world will not save Floyd from this.
Only Floyd can save himself….by not fighting Manny Pacquiao.
Believe it or not.
at andy
the truth hurts.
F&**CK you MONKEE FAMILY..ypu racist
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To you Floyd Mayweather Jr.:
Please stop making exucuses, alibis, unacceptable demands to make it believable that you want to fight Pacquioa. Stop it. My advice to you is just say: NO, I DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT MANNY, PERIOD. You do not have to explain anything, the only words you will is NO, I WILL NOT FIGHT MANNY PACQUIAO. People will understand and will congratulate you for being straight. Just say no and we will understand. People will stop saying you are a coward or afraid to fight Manny Pacquiao. So just say: NO, I DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT MANNY, PERIOD.
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To you Floyd Mayweather Jr.:
Please stop making exucuses, alibis, unacceptable demands to make it believable that you want to fight Pacquioa. Stop it. My advice to you is just say: NO, I DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT MANNY, PERIOD. People will understand and will congratulate you for being straight. Just say no and we will understand. People will stop saying you are a coward or afraid to fight Manny Pacquiao. So just say: NO, I DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT MANNY, PERIOD.
pacquiao telling people that mayweather jr. is scared of him, why is it that mayweather’s fans answering pacquiao’s allegation and not floyd himself, hmm this is weird. is he really scared of pac-man.
This is to all everyone who don’t understand why Pacquiao would not give into Mayweather demands. Pacquiao worked his way up to were he is by sheer hard work and a fearless attitude. He is Fighter of the year 3 years straight and was also awarded fighter of the decade by American Boxer Writers Assication. He ic currently Ring Magazine rank P4P best fighter in the world and is in the records book for winning an incredable 7 differnt wight devision titles. Someone explain to me why would he have to give into Mayweather demands. He is more popular and well known world wide than Mayweather. If it was not for the boxing fans im sure Pacquiao would be fighting someone else now. Pacquiao don’t need Mayweather tp prove himself it’s the other way round.
YES MANNY WILL GET KO’ED. AT LEAST PAC MAN IS CUTE. HAVE YOU SEEN THE BULGE IN HIS BOXING TRUNKS WHEN HE FIGHTS. WOO WOO..HAYYYYYYYYYYY
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More information on Mayweather:
Mayweather is good only on making unacceptable demands, excuses and alibis to avoid fighting Pacquiao inside the ring. The fight between Manny Pacquiao and Mayweather Jr. is not going to happen because Mayweather is afraid of Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather is a coward and will never fight Manny Pacquiao not even for $50 million. Mayweather Jr. is destined to be called: FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. the GREATEST COWARD BOXER OF ALL TIME.
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Long live Manny Pacquiao, one the greatest fighters of all time together with the likes of Sugar Ray Robinson, Mohammed Ali, Thomas Hearns, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Joe Louis and others.
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Gentlemen, we are going to witness Floyd Mayweather Jnr at his best. He has never ever been really stretched in most of his fights. If Manny is going to stretch Floyd, he is going to be met with the most punishment ever meted by Floyd. I see Manny’s eyes puffed up by by the 5th round. He will be swollen and sore to a point that he won’t see those hooks coming in. It may be stopped by the 9th or the 10th round.
If I wanted to play in the championship game in the NBA, I’m a decent player at best, I have all of the will in the world, but if I have to cover Kobe Bryant, all of the will amounts to squat in getting the job done.
You can be guaranteed that Kobe will be holding another trophy.
The same with Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Bryan….
Not to be too critical, but Zab Judah knocked Floyd down in their fight even though it wasn’t ruled as one.
Thought you might have wanted to know that.
Hey, WAXED SNAPPERS………
Nov 14th is a sunday ya dunce. Even if your source knows when it will happen, you are too dumb to realize this fight wouldn’t end in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. Never. Pac is too tough for that. I think he will lose, but if it’s a stoppage, it will be late.
This matter can only come to an end after the fight. Therefore to Floyd, I will say this: please agree to share the purse equally. To Manny: please take the tests. We can then have the fight and decide who really is the better fighter.
Mayweather is not making excuses… LOL. Nuts!
Mayweather is not making excuses… LOL.
The people to blame are the promoters…..
@mutchie — Who’s making excuses!
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What’s eating Mayweathers? Envy and fear on Manny Pacquiao.
My advice: Do not be afraid, Pacquiao is not going to eat you, he’s just gonna knock you out of your senses, you envious cowards. LOL
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MANNY NEEDS TO TAKE THE TEST NO EXCUSES !!!
THE MAN HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE !!
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More information on Mayweather:
Mayweather is good only on making unacceptable demands, excuses and alibis to avoid fighting Pacquiao inside the ring. The fight between Manny Pacquiao and Mayweather Jr. is not going to happen because Mayweather is afraid of Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather is a coward and will never fight Manny Pacquiao not even for $50 million. Mayweather Jr. is destined to be called: FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. the GREATEST COWARD BOXER OF ALL TIME.
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Long live Manny Pacquiao, one the greatest fighters of all time together with the likes of Sugar Ray Robinson, Mohammed Ali, Thomas Hearns, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Joe Louis and others.
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Mayweather is good only on making unacceptable demands, excuses and alibis to avoid fighting Pacquiao inside the ring. The fight between Manny Pacquiao and Mayweather Jr. is not going to happen because Mayweather is afraid of Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather is a coward and will never fight Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather Jr. is destined to be called: FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. the GREATEST COWARD BOXER OF ALL TIME.
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Long live Manny Pacquiao, one the greatest fighters of all time together with the likes of Sugar Ray Robinson, Mohammed Ali, Thomas Hearns, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Joe Louis and others.
This article looks balanced. How ever, Floyd is going into this bout the fevorite because he is the bigger, the more talented and the more polished of the two. My reasons are that Floyd is yet to lose a bout, his style is difficult to master, he can switch from one approach to another with ease. Manny’s chances are based on work rate and a lucky punch. I don’t see Floyd beeing tagged by the smaller Manny to a point of a knock-out, rather, Manny will be in trouble all night trying to set that one punch. Manny’s work rate is effective on come-forward fighters and reason is simple. The target is guaranteed. He will not throw 1000 punches on a moving target. Manny wull be in trouble with the viper fast jab and the wicked hooks, the straight rights will just make the night more of a nightmare. Floyd will be the clear winner.
some of you pac fans have to realize that mayweather can make 20 million fighting any news anchor and pacman has never made 20 million ever. and mosley being old and washed up yeah right he was so old thatroach wouldnt let pac fight him look it up he even said mayweather was scared of mosley and you know how that turned out mayweather is so good he willpick pac apart then you have to find some other excuse. imagine how much money bob arum would have made promoting floyd but floyd bought his azz out now arum hates him there is your hold up floyd should just say winner take all loser gets nada
@ badazz, now i have to give you a commendation.
@ali
Nahhh….Floyd’s exciting to watch. Like watching paint dry.
I can just imagine the molecules of the pigment at work, the oxidation involved in the whole process. The complex and sublime actions of the binding compounds on the wall.
Really exciting.
The spectacle of paint dying.
@ badazz you’re a real badazz, i give you 5 stars.
watching pacquiao’s fights is like watching die hard movies, you’ll get thrilled. floyd is no doubt a good defensive boxer that’s why he wins but watching him is like watching soap opera with a series of long commercials. can you blame me from being pacquiao fan.
Ya gotta understand Floyd. He wants the 60%, coz if he’s gonna lose that ‘O’, he’s gotta be paid handsomely for it. If he gets a blemish on his perfect record with this fight, he’ll take comfort in the money he earned. The man’s a shrewed businessman.
Legacy don’t pay no bills.
The fans won’t pay the 300 bucks he owes his garbage collector.
He ain’t called ‘money’ for nothing.
He may lose to Pacquiao, but hell, he’ll retire ‘philthy’ rich.
Nodody can blame Floyd. It’s all Pacquiao’s fault.
Because he has a good chance of beating Floyd.
Now, mull over this – Floyd didn’t pay the sanction fee for the Mosley fight, for the sole reason of NOT HAVING A BELT TO DEFEND. The sanctioning fee amount was his excuse. He’s been in the business a long time. He knew the rules, he made 40M. He just didn’t want to hold a belt of which he had to defend against a mandatory challenger. First, because he will not earn top money and second, for the risk of losing that zero on his record. It’s the only thing he’s holding on to. And he’ll try holding on to it, at whatever cost.
Undeafeted, what else has the man got except his money and that ‘O’?
I don’t blame Floyd at all.
When I first started on this site I gave Manny his props. But listening to all of you PBF haters (who don’t watch him fight or other boxing matches) I got a little biased. I still know PBF will win. But I still like Pac. Pac fans make it seem like PBF is not a HOF fighter because they didn’t watch fights before Pac fought DLH. Or should I say most Pac fans on here? They both are legends of this era. They BOTH NEED this fight to further their legacy beyond this era. Drug testing is good people. Going by ppv numbers 60/40 is good people. Pac still makes the most in his career. Especially coming from a guy who says he fights for the people not money. Why wouldn’t he take this fight? I said it before and I will say it again. It will end up at 55/45 for PBF. PBF wins either in a late KO or decision.
mayweather jr would not give in, if he does he has to fight pacquiao and that will ruin mayweather sr. plan.
were are all the mayweather accountants still counting his ppv numbers ,this is boxing .not the irs .haaaa haaaaa haa
@ brian
eggplant colored people, manny will win and thats it!LOL!!
the fight is near and i think you cant sleep coz you idol
is going to sleep in the ring LOL!!!
its not mp fault fm just has to except the 50 50 sighn the contract fm.
@jabs
Finally someone with some brains around here. It seems so plain and simple right?
@plazma101
Its not in PBF’s hands. Pac can sign and fight right now IF he wanted to fight. There is a contract right now for Pac in front of him. All he has to do is sign a contract that will net him the biggest payday of his career.
The hardest working man in Boxing is Floyd Money Mayweather, how do you explain the destruction of Marquez and Mosley, before the Mosley fight everybody said this fight would push Mayweather to the limit and is a real test, look what happen in the end, now people say,”Oh Mosley was past his prime” give me a break. Has ever occurred to any of you Floyd Haters, that maybe Mayweather is just that good. Nobody questions who Pacquiao fights. Yall need to remember a great defense beats a great offense, Ali said it the best, “your hands can’t hit what your eyes can’t see.” And one more thing to point out, Manny is not faster or stronger than Mayweather, all Manny has to do is agree to the 60/40 split and you got a fight. Why wouldn’t you and this is the most money you will have ever made and will ever make, Mayweather just brought in 40mill why would he want the same amount of Money he made with Shane Mosley?
@sadik…My friend
Yeah being dehydrated, dropping 10 pounds and fighting a fighter on steroids is not a big deal. What fantasy world do you live in? To me it sounds like the Pac vs DLH and Pac vs Cotto fight.
DOWN GOES PACAIUO, from a straight right hand of Mayweather. This is the third knockdown of the round and it looks like pacaiuos left eye is swollen completely shut! Finally freddie roach throws in the towel to save his fighter any more punishment! Mayweather wins an easy ko in the tenth round!
@paboiglesia
I agree drug tests and puse split is not on top of the list. Ring size, glove size and location is. Purse split and drug testing are easy.
For one to make sure the fight is fought on an even playing field. And two you have to make sure you’re not getting screwd over on a business stand point.
Manny will KO Mayweather, there is no doubt, Pacman is a far stronger and much faster striker ?
Its not surprising that Floyd is afraid of Pacman, he will fight Pacman, lose and retire. Pacman retired, Hatton, ODLH and many more fighters, infact as we all saw, most fighters Mayweather and Pacman both fought, Pacman finished of much easier than Mayweather.
Enough of the rubbish talk, it will all be proved in the ring, it will be good to see someone shut that trashy black mouth !
One of the best pieces ive read on here in a long long time! Totally agree!
i believe a barking dog is not a threat and an empty can produce more noise, the same with the camp of floyd mayweather, they talk too much, like a dog who keeps on barking but does not bite.
enough of nasty words, if this mayweather is willing to fight pacquiao, he will not make the negotation hard. if your willing to fight, drug testing and purse spliting is not on your number one list of condition but rather WHEN (the fight will happen)
elgato
WTF?? when Hatton nearly died from the Midget’s Right hook Floyd Sr cowardly ran away and phoned his son not to fight him.
He didnt even help Hatton come back to his senses! The COWARD ran AWAY! He freakin cowardly ran and phoned he’s COWARD son to RUN AWAAAY hahahahaha!
Finally a non-biased well thought out article. I have a tremendous respect for both fighters and I completely agree that Pacquiao has the edge in work ethic and will while Floyd has the edge in pure skill and ring IQ. I do think that something about Pacquiao got inside of Floyd’s head though. I just hope he sorts it out and signs the contract so fans like us can finally enjoy on the greatest fight of our generation.
manny on points
You can’t win on will alone. Yeah, Floyd picked and chose Castillo twice, Corrales, and the other 25 title fights under his belt. Look at Floyd’s record man. 25 title fights 25-0. First title fight was his 17 pro fight. Listen man Floyd and Manny are nothing alike. Manny was fighting cab drivers and fool time employees when Floyd was destroying everyone at 130.
Hell yeah Manny needs to take the OST or Floyd needs to move one. Paul Williams represent little risk at 147 (he will be drained) and Martinez represent some risk at 154. Floyd can demand both of these guys take OST and they will do it for a chance at Floy.
Floyd don’t need the midget.
Hopefully the fight is signed and sealed soon, but I get the feeling that this will drag on to mid July, boxing really needs a huge fight like this and I hope also that both fighters realise this, time for them both to take one for the team and put their bitterness to one side and make this fight happen.
HEY IT’S ON IN NOVEMBER 14 AT MGM GRAND MAYWEATHER GETS 55/45 I HAVE JUST BEEN INFORMED BY A RELIABLE SOURCE THAT IT’S ALL SIGNED AND SEALED.NOW YOU ALL WE SEE HOW OVER RATED AND UNSOUND MANNY IS, LOOK FOR MANNY TO GO TO SLEEP IN ROUND 2 OR 3, MANNY IS BIG BIG TROUBLE……..
Great Article, couldn’t agree more, well done.
well written.. but not only does manny have the will/heart but he too has great talent and athletic ability… both are masters of their own styles and will be each others’ toughest competition yet