Arum thinks the Mayweather-Pacquiao negotiations won’t be taking place too much longer
June 28th, 2010
By Chris Williams: Promoter Bob Arum, who is working for WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao, doesn’t think the negotiations between Pacquiao and unbeaten Floyd Mayweather Jr. will be going on too much longer. Arum still won’t give a date as to when the negotiations will be completed.
There’s also a chance that the negotiations won’t be completed because of differences over the purse split and the random blood testing cutoff. Pacquiao wants a 50-50 deal, which is the same deal as last time when he and Arum unsuccessfully attempted to put together a fight with Mayweather. At that time, Mayweather was in agreement with the 50-50 split of the revenue.
It’s understandable, because his numbers were better not only for this fight, but also for his fights against Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Juan Manuel Marquez.
Arum and Pacquiao can’t wait on Mayweather forever, though, because Arum has booked the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada, and the Cowboy Stadium, in Arlington, Texas, for November 13th and he needs to start marketing the fight ahead of time. If Mayweather doesn’t take the fight, then Pacquiao could fight some of Arum’s other fighters in his Top Rank stable like Miguel Cotto (again) or Antonio Margarito.
Neither of those fights is particularly appealing but that’s about the best that Arum has to offer in his stable right now. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. isn’t ready for a fight against Manny Pacquiao, and besides that, he’s probably too big to get down in weight low enough. Besides that, it would probably end up being a terrible fight, much worse than Pacquiao’s recent win over Clottey.
Chavez struggled with John Duddy this past weekend, winning a 12 round decision but struggling nonetheless for much of the fight. A fight between Pacquiao and Margarito would be good if Margarito had his boxing license to fight in the U.S., which he doesn’t, and if he hadn’t gotten so badly dominated a year ago by Shane Mosley. Margarito hasn’t done much to redeem himself since that loss other than beating Roberto Garcia, a fighter few fans have even heard of.
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Pac-man’s too scared to get tested and a rematch with Cotto would surprise you on how many people would put up money for that one.
this renegotiation fight between pac/man and floyd was just a smokescreen of floyd to save faced. this fight will never happen. its floyd strategy to demand any excuses thats he knew not acceptable to pac/man. floyd had already determined not to fight pac/man and will demand endless excuses and preffered to retire just to abort the fight.floyd strategy has been revealed now. this time floyd is no longer ducking the fight and his excuses is cleared as a gesture of SELF ACCEPTANCE OF DEFEAT.floyd is a good boxer but not a fighter. a fighter will not accept defeat without a fight.boxing fans will not be surprised of his coming back after pac/man.he will be back as a cashless cow. floyd will be rmembered as the greatest coward boxer of all time.
I CAN SENSE SOMETING PESSIMISTIC OUTCOME OF THE NEGOTIATION. THIS FIGHT BOUT BETWEEN TWO GREAT WARRIORS IN THE RING WILL NEVER EVER BE CONSUMATED DUE TO DIVISION OF POT PRIZE. THERE MUST BE FAIRNESS FOR BOTH. 60/40 IN FAVOR OF MAYWEATHER WON’T WORK FOR MANNY PACMAN BECAUSE OF HIS CURRENT BOXING STATUS. THERE WILL BE NO STAGE PLAY. 50/50 FAIR ENOUGH FOR BOTH OF THEM AND FOR THE SAKE OF SPECTATORS. WE CAN SEE ALL EAGER EYES ACCROSS THE GLOBE WATCHING IN TANDEM. THE END RESULT OF THE GAME WOULD BRING CHEERS AND LONELINESS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE.
JACK FLORES
BOXING ANALYST
JACK FLORES
BOXING ANALYST
IT IS NOT A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY THAT FLOYD MAYWEATHER CAN BEAT MANNY PACMAN. UNLESS HE CHANGES HIS STYLE OF BOXING. ONLY THEN CAN HE BEAT PACMAN AND GET THE RESPECT OF HIS FANS AND AVID FOLLOWERS. ON THE CONTRARY, EVEN IF HE WINS BY ANY JUDGMENT, HE DOESN’T DESERVE TO GET THE RESPECT OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF BOXING WATCHERS LARGELY BECAUSE OF HIS DEMANDS AND THE SPLIT IN PURSE (60/40) IN HIS FAVOR. FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS NOT FAIR DUE TO THE FOLLOWING JUSTIFICATIONS: MANNY PACQUIAO IS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO GET THE BIGGER SLICE OF THE POT MONEY BECAUSE OF HIS CURRENT WORLDWIDE STATUS. WHAT HAPPENS, MAYWEATHER TRIES EVEN TO CLAIM THE BIGGER PORTION OF THE PRIZE DEPRIVING MANNY’S RIGHT AS THE LEGITIMATE #1 P4P KING IN THE WORLD TODAY. HOW COULD HE DESERVE THEN TO GET THE RESPECT OF EVERYBODY? A 50/50 SPLIT FOR BOTH IS FAIR AND FINE. THE SECOND DEMAND IS THE RANDOM DRUG TESTING. BY THIS CONCESSION, PACMAN’S STRENGTH IS IN JEOPARDY AND THE POSSIBILITY OF DEFEAT IS ENORMOUS BECAUSE OF HIS DIMINUTIVE
SIZE COMPARE TO MAYWEATHER’S MASCULAR BODY, HEIGHT AND WEIGHT. IT IS NOT FAIR EVEN IF MAYWEATHER UNDERGOES THE SAME RANDOM TEST. BOXING IS THE MOST TIRESOME IN ANY SPORT. EVEN IF MAYWEATHER OVERWHELMS MANNY PACQUIAO, HE DOESN’T DESERVE CREDIT FROM THE PUBLIC VIEW EXCEPT HIS FANS AND DIEHARD DISCIPLES. IN ORDER TO GET THE RESPECT OF EVERYBODY WORLDWIDE, THE PROCESS OF RANDOM BLOOD TESTING MUST BE ELIMINATED AND THE PRIZE SHARING RATIO SHOULD BE 50/50. MANNY PACQUIAO NEVER TAKES DRUG ENHANCING SUBSTANCE. THE ANTI PACQUIAO PEOPLE ARE JUST SPECULATING AND HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS OF HIM WITHOUT SOLID PROOF OR EVIDENCE. THE BODY BUILDUP, EXTRA ORDINARY STRENGTH AND ADDED STAMINA OF MANNY PACQUIAO IS EMANATED FROM EXCESSIVE TRAINING, FOOD INTAKE AND PROPER SLEEP. THIS IS THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH IN THE EYES OF NEUTRAL BOXING FANS INCLUDING MYSELF.
JACK FLORES
BOXING ANALYST
yeah goria pacquiao nut hogger
THATS BECAUSE THE CLOTTEY-PACQUIAO FIGHT WAS THE MOST BORING FIGHT IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING, HISTORY OF SPORTS, I RATHER WATCH GOLF THAN WATCH PACQUIAO OR CLOTTEY AGAIN
TO ALL MAYWEATHER HARDCORE AND DIEHARD FANS: PLEASE LISTEN ATTENTIVELY AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF LESSON. YOU KEEP ON TELLING MAYWEATHER GETS MORE PAY PER VIEW BASED ON HIS BOUT WITH SHANE MOSLEY AS AGAINST MANNY PACQUIAO VS JOSHUA CLOTTEY. THIS IS CORRECT. AND DO YOU KNOW WHY? MOSLEY HAS MORE FANS AND FOLLOWERS THAN CLOTTEY. LET US REVERSE THE SITUATION. MANNY PACQUIAO VS SHANE MOSLEY AND FLOYD MAYWEATHER VS JOSHUA CLOTTEY. WHO DO YOU THINK GARNER MORE PAY PER VIEW IN THIS SCENARIO? MAYWEATHER? GO BACK TO KINDERGARTEN. PLEASE USE YOUR COMMON SENSE. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT YOUR MAN IS BEHIND MANNY PACMAN IN WORLD RECORD AND ACHIEVEMENTS AND CANNOT MATCH IT. AND YET HE WANTS A BIGGER PERCENTAGE OF THE PURSE? FOR CLARITY I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION SOME:
ACHIEVEMENTS
1. 7 TITLE BELTS IN 7 WEIGHT DIVISIONS
2. RECOGNIZED BY RING MAGAZINE THE NO.1 CURRENT P4P KING IN
THE WORLD
3. FIGHTER OF THE YEAR 3 TIMES
4. FIGHTER OF THE DECADE
5. MULTIPLE TROPHIES
6. NUMEROUS BOXING ACHIEVEMENTS
7. RECIPIENT OF MANY MEDALS AND AWARDS
8. COUNTLESS ENDORSEMENTS
RECORDS
TOTAL FIGHT BOUTS 56 TO-DATE JANUARY 29,2010
BARRERA (CHAMPION) TKO, DECISION (TWICE)
MORALES (CHAMPION) KNOCKOUT, TKO, 1 LOSS (THRICE)
DIAZ (CHAMPION) KNOCKOUT
DE LA HOYA (CHAMPION) TKO
HATTON (CHAMPION) KNOCKOUT
COTTO (CHAMPION) TKO
VASQUEZ (FORMER CHAMPION) TKO
LARIOS (FORMER CHAMPION) UNANIMOUS DECISION
MARQUEZ (CHAMPION) SPLIT DECISION, DRAW (TWICE)
CLOTTEY (FORMER CHAMPION) UNANIMOUS DECISION
TAKE NOTE PLEASE: THESE ARE ALL CHAMPIONS AND EX-CHAMPIONS NOT TO MENTION THE REST. FOR VERIFICATION OF ACHIEVEMENTS, PLEASE VISIT HIS HOUSE IN SARANGGANI PROVINCE IN THE PHILIPPINES.
TO ALL PROMOTERS AND LOVERS OF BOXING SPORT: FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS THE MAIN PROBLEM. HIS HEAD IS ALREADY BIG AS BALLOON, PLEASE DON’T MAKE IT EVEN BIGGER. WHO IS HE TO DEMAND EVERYTHING HE WANTED WITHOUT REGARD TO MANNY PACQUIAO’S ACHIEVEMENTS IN THE SPORT OF BOXING. IF WE COMPARE THE IMAGE OF MANNY AND MAYWEATHER WORLDWIDE. MAYWEATHER RANKS NO.2 ONLY AFTER PACMAN. MANNY PACQUIAO IS CONSIDERED #1 IN WORLD OPINION POLLS. WHY DOES MAYWEATHER WANT A LION’S SHARE OF THE PURSE? HE JUST RESURRECTED FROM RETIREMENT.PACQUIAO IS CURRENTLY RECOGNIZED BY RING MAGAZINE AND LEGITIMATE NO.1 OF P4P IN THE WORLD. MAYWEATHER HAS TO RECLAIM IT FROM PACMAN. MANNY HAS OFFERED HIM A 50/50 SPLIT WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY AGREED AND NOW CHANGES THAT TO 60/40 IN HIS ADVANTAGE? BEFORE MANNY WANTED A 24 DAYS CUT OFF DATE OF RANDOM DRUG TEST. LATER ON MAYWEATHER WANTED 14 DAYS AND MANNY AGREED TO THAT. WHAT IS THE LATEST NEWS ON RANDOM BLOOD TEST? THAT WAS MOVED AGAIN UP TO THE EVE OF THE FIGHT? MANNY PACMAN WON’T HEED THIS TIME TO MAYWEATHER’S DEMAND I BELIEVE IN THIS RESPECT INCLUDING THE 60/40 SHARING. IN REALITY, MANNY PACMAN SHOULD INSTEAD ENJOY THE BIGGER PORTION OF THE PURSE. THIS BOUT WOULD NEVER COME INTO FRUITION. NOW WHO IS TO BLAME IN CASE OF FAILURE TO MATERIALIZE? LET US USE OUR OWN PERSONAL VIEW AND COMMON UNDERSTANDING. IT IS VERY OBVIOUS THAT WE KNEW IT ALREADY NOT NOW, BUT FROM THE START. THIS IS A CLEAR PRESENTATION OF FACTS.
arum has no intentions on making this fight happen. Very true and correct, once he booked texas all pac fans including me should have saw it coming. Pac wants to fight but arum doesnt want him to.
Forget the Pac supporters. When is Pac gonna realize what Arum’s doing? Plus he’s making 30% off of Pac and for what? He already tried to drive a wege between Pac & Roach cuz he wanted Pac to train at his gym in Las Vegas instead of California. And now he looks like a steriod user because of how badly Arum handled the accusations. Not to mention the fact that he went from a 50-50 split in January to now getting the shorter end of any negotiations with Mayweather now since the Mayweather/Mosely fight easily doubled the revenue of the Pac/Clottey fight. Pac should just follow the other big names & just drop Arum already.
I really believe Arum has no real intention of getting this fight done. The moment he booked Dallas for November should have been the first red flag for everyone. This is nothing more than posturing for the media & maybe Pac himself.
Arum is a crook. Don’t know why Pac supports are so loyal to dude. He has one intention in mind and that is to sell a fight in Texas with two of his fighters fighting each other so he gets paid. He does not care 2 cents about Pac. Vdog you right, trying to sell another ‘dangerous’ fighter fake fight between him and Cotto/Margicheato/and haven’t fought nobody living in daddy shadow Chavez Jr. GTFOH
Of course not. Greedy Bob has a stadium in Dallas to fill up. He’s just making a public “effort” at negotiations with Mayweather. What Greedy Bob really wants to do is try to is have two of his own fighters try to fill up Cowboy Stadium & that won’t happen unless his cash cow Manny Pacquiao fights there. Don’t be fooled by Greedy Bob’s real intentions. He’ll sell us the “New & Improved” Cotto, the “Dangerous” Margacheato, or his new “Superstar” Chavez Jr as Pacman’s next opponent & boxing fans will be treated to another garbage fight. Thanks Bob!
Acutall the 60-40 demand from Mayweather is neither greed nor pride, it is out of pure fear. If Pacquiao accepted that, Mayweather would throw up another road block to avoid this confrontation. The fact that Manny Pacquio’s incredible performances were enough to drive Mayweather away is more impressive to me than if he actually beat Mayweather. I’ve been a boxing fan for 35 years and I have never witnessed a fighter strike the fear of God in another fighter like I am witnessing right now. You can see the fear in Floyd when Pacquiao’s name gets mentioned in his interviews. Manny has been a whirlwind and if we wins this November matchup against Margartio/Cotto, he will cement himself as someone who can be mentioned right along with the greatest of the greats.
If Mayweather would insist on the 60-40 split of the money in his favor,then there will be no fight.Mayweather keeps crowing thst he is the best boxer of all time and therefore should get the bigger share in a fight with Pacquiao. He doesn’t believe what most boxing writers and many boxing experts say about Pacquiao when they voted him as the boxier of the decade, boxer of the year 3 times, and pound 4 pound No.1. He doesn’t believe in Pacquiao’s achievements of 7 belts in 7 diferent weights and 4 lieal titles, which ONLY pacquiao has achieved. Mayweather only believes in himself no matter what others say, so he demands the bigger share. Pacquiao has a right to ask for at least 50-50 and if Mayweather refuses to budge, then there is no fight. The blame should go to Mayweather for being unjustifiably greedy.
What I dont understand is that Mayweather is SO SURE he can whip Manny’s ass. And this is backed by his resume and die hard fans, Manny being one dimensional. Why cant he deal with 60/40 split. With 60% for the winner and 40% to the loser.
If he is that confident, the 60% is good as his. And this fight will HAPPEN, which most of us are excited to see.
Floyd is playing it safe by requiring Manny to take the drug test. Manny can beat Floyd, he is faster, more agile, makes better use of “angles” and is truly not afraid to get cut, unlike Floyd. Now don’t get me wrong, Floyd is an excellent fighter, however, he hasn’t really been hit with a devestating solid punch until round two with Shane. He was very smart to hold onto Shane, and like a true champ he made the necessary adjustment and dominated Shane. Manny however is ready for a fast paced, not stop brawl and he won’t stop at nothing. Floyd will have to knock Manny out in order to win! This fight will NOT go the distance to 12 rounds! Manny in 8!!!!!!!!!!
I believe the fight will happen and the only way it wont happen is because roach doesn’t have a game plan for manny. The whole time this fight was stalled was 2 get manny in shape to fight mayweather and make it a competitive fight, I don’t need to read this from somewhere to figure this one out. floyd is a real boxer and manny’s just a hyped fighter, sorry.
Arum can go F himself. He will kill this fight just like he killed Oscar v Trinidad II.
This man killed most of the big fights of the 90s.
yeah who cares about the negotiation you all will never see any off the money so stop bickering about the purse split and blood test, etc. True fans just wants to see a good fight between two great fighters. So be a fan a pay that ppv fee and i know it wont disappoint! The truth is none of you really knows who’s going to win, it’s 50/50 till that bell rings! lol stop predicting cuz if your good @ it then you would be a millionaire!
I’ve said it a while back that arum and roach is gone have 2 drag manny in the ring. I can imagine the ring entrance manny will be kicking and stratching, lol. Manny never like the odds of losing hell he fought in so many rematches it’s a shame, 2 me I bet manny is already mentally defeated and the nego took a toll on him. I’m saying the fight will happen but I expect more panic attacks from bob’s end, I think if mayweather beats him pretty good he knows he wont ever get a rematch
@Michael Jones********* that the problem he keeps makin stupid buissness decisions. cotto has been stopped twice. antonio was knocked out by mosley , mosley just was destroyed by floyd no one will pay to watch eather one of those matches. now if he was to face undefeated berto, a small percent of the money made to be set aside for haiti releaf or face undefeated bradley one of the baddest boxers out there or williams who would have to drain down to 147 the so called most feared man in boxin. those are million doller ppv sales matches.
No way in hell does pacqiou deserve a 50/50 split, look at the numbers….. People lie, numbers dont.
@Manimal, please understand, this is a business. Fighting Clottey made bad business sense to Mayweather. But guess who took that fight?
Your boy!
Mayweather runs circles around Roach, Arum and Pacquiao in the ring and the business world.
If match is not made for some reason manny can not take on cotto or antonio ppv will be horrible just like the clottey bout. and he will make 5 times less then what he will make for the floyd bout and his take of a floyd manny bout will become smaller like last time. especially if floyd takes on martinez, makes another 40 million and sells over 1 million ppv. if he can do it with marquez, the mexican people will pay to support martinez.
@mananimal*** floyd would have never boxed clottey its stupid just like manny should not have done it. another bad buissness decision. facin someone that no one believes has any chance to beat you.
2. doesnt matter if people pay to see you win or loss. at the end of the day, they pay. like floyd sais why have 500,000 people who love me watch me box when i can have 500,000 people that love me and 500,000 that hait me pay to watch me box. smart buissness move and it works.
the way arum is talkin sound more like a deal is bein finished more then a deal is tryin to be made. sounds almost like just little stuff bein work out. sounds like a done deal. if it wasnt arum would be all crazy on the internet like last time.
Mayweather deserves the 60/40 plain and simple he made more and out done pac in head to head matchups against the same fighters!
hello guy’s listen for those of you who dont know there are only a handfull of ways to win a fight in pro fighting 1 knockout, 2 hit the other guy more than he hit’s you 3 disqualification 4 dubious ways non mentioned all other 3 are legal floyd has done em both 1 and 2.. go figure
ok guys i hate pac man but i love his body..
You guys aren’t listening I said I did talk to Manny and he said he will agree to all of Mayweather’s demand so as the fight can happen. This will be his last, and he said its an honor to fight the best of the best win or loose. Let’s do it.
@mananimal “They pay to see someone finally beat him. Mayweather would never make them numbers fighting a nobody.”
I pay to see him and il be paying to see him beat Pacman and atleast he fights somebodies.
old news
If Mayweather would of fought clottey he would of did less than pacquiao in ppv numbers. Nobody pays to see Mayweather. They pay to see someone finally beat him. Mayweather would never make them numbers fighting a nobody. He has no leverage at all. This is a 50/50 fight. Mayweather likes to wait till his opponent get out their prime to fight them. He’s not that loved in the u.s as he will have people elsewhere believe. People gonna
we get it.mayweathers a pssy and arums gonna match pacquiao with one of his $hit fighters blah blah blah.life goes on.
mayweaher is the most boring fighter in history so I wont pay for him fighting anyone but pacquiao and theres plenty of decent opponents out there that arent top rank so I think ill pass on any bull$hit ppv rip offs like cotto 2 and margarito.at best ill sit in a bar and barely pay attenion.
I totally lost any real interest months ago
MANNY WILL NEVER TAKE THE TEST CAUSE HE USES PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS IT,S AS SIMPLE AS THAT AND FLOYD AND HIS FAMILY ARE ON TO HIM….WITHOUT THE JUICE MANNY IS NOTHING !!!
Once you stand and walk away from the negotiation table, that leverage and EVERYTHING that was on the table at that time is gone! You left Bob Arum and took it with you. Do you honestly think that you can walk away, amidst threats and condemnations, and come back to the table once you’ver lost even more leverage and get offered the same deal?
Does that happen to you often? Does that happen between nations? In the board room?
Why would it happen here where millions of dollars are at stake?
Look at the face of Bob Arum. Manny Pacquiao, you hurt yourself signing with this guy.
NOW YOU MUST PAY THE PIPER!
Fight already !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!