Manny Pacquiao can decide the future of the Boxing fan
May 27th, 2010
By Jordan Stoddart: I sat there today, in my airy, slightly squalid, but ultimately Boxing focused bedroom this morning, and started concentrating on some fantastically detailed, and gloriously timeless pictures of some Boxers from the era of the 1970’s and 1980’s. My favourite was one of Ken Buchanan losing to Roberto Duran; the bout itself being a one sided, and controversial affair, pretty much ending the formers reign in elite sections of the sport, and further cementing the status of the latter as one of the greatest world champions that ever lived. The reason that picture made such a mark on my otherwise dull, redundancy induced day, was the brightness, life, colour, and overall thoughts on the legend that was Roberto Duran. One of those Boxers who get you into the sport, who breath the imagination into the fan, and sometimes sparks that great fire which lead people to further their hobby, interest or love into a productive interest. Mine is writing, the people reading this are also writers/readers, hardcore fans of the sport, and they all have their icons who lead them, bleed them and sometimes mislead them into thinking they were the great men in the world, true champions of an individualistic sport which breeds warriors and heroes, much like how alcohol breeds manic depressants and violent juveniles.
We know the score. Ones a brash American, probably the finest defence minded tactician since the days of Sugar, but equally devastating when on the attack (after ruthlessly dissecting an opponent over 9 or so rounds), see the Marquez, Hatton fights for references. The other fighter is the modest, fan friendly, and apparently worlds Number Uno, Manny Pacquiao. Both lay claim to the Pound for Pound hotspot, and both have good credentials to back up the right to currently own this mythical title. The blip on Mayweather’s side of the fence is his retirement (s), but I feel his fight with Mosley more than made up for it. Lots of people, mostly Internet black cats, petitioned for months about him fighting a ‘true’ welter, he did. He fought the best, he beat the best, and he actually embarrassed the best. On Manny’s side, he has a lot to back his CV up with. I mean just think of the way he atrociously ruined Hatton and Cotto, and made Clottley look like an amateur for 12 rounds. Unfortunately, as we now know there have been some pre-conceived disagreements and matters which have now halted 2 sets of negotiations. In a nutshell, we had the alleged growth hormone incident, now the split purse issue. I actually believe one fighter is clearly right in this case, and it is in my eyes a non-issue, but to keep in line with ethical, level headed and non-judgmental writing, I shall take the culprit to the grave!
See, I have no ancestral allegiance to either Boxer, but I do have a long standing, and fundamentally concrete love of entertaining boxing. That should be the aim from a fan perspective at all times. I can appreciate a fighter’s stance, you need to win gritty to win sometimes, and if that means extended your fledgling career, your growing career, or just the plain record in question, then it has to be done. Hey, sometimes they stink, but it’s the nature of a well thought out, and cash rich beast which keeps them making money, and basically keeps you entertained and on-side, as we all remember the good nights, don’t we? A lot of people forget about the business aspect when watching, discussing or enjoying the sport, but unfortunately, it is about 50% of why we tune in. Take away the 36 minutes of live action available on a standard 12 rounder, then you are left with the all important press tours, meetings, and the pinnacle of build up in the weigh in. Chuck in the TV specials like 24/7 and commercials, and you have a healthy amount of TV viewing time, a fantastic outreach from the promoter and fighter to the all important PPV paying fan. See, what pee’s me off though, is the followers of the sport are continuously being robbed of good match ups, and its quite frankly getting on my wick. What is equally more baffling is the fact that the same people are coming back paying £25/$40 a piece, time and time again, to watch the likes of Julio Chávez, Junior, currently 40 and 0, but trust me his record is nothing short of appalling for someone who has held a ‘version’ of the a world title. There is a way we can finally achieve our aim of watching excellent, prime boxers, fighting each other, and someone has to make a stand. Pacquiao is the man.
I trust that Mayweather wants this fight; in fact I know he does. People form their own views on various fighters, Mayweather generally gets a hard time from the armchair representatives. But give the man his due, skill set wise, and in terms of providing great fights, he has. How can the Ricky Hatton, Jose Luis Castillo or Shane Mosley performances create bad feedback for him personally?! He is arguably one of the finest fighters we will have witnessed in a long time, and yes, he does deserve that place in my head, weaving and bobbing, and sometimes self-creating those super-fights we have seen and crave. This is going to hurt, but Manny Pacquiao needs to take the initiative here, accept the 40/60 purse, take the blood tests and then enjoy the absolute summit of a truly special career which see’s him on the edge of retirement, but with a ridiculous option lingering, involving either a re-match with Miguel Cotto or a fight with Antonio Margarito. Good God. Why not fight a rematch with Hatton? Sorry, but Pacquiao won me over with his persona, his awesome appeal as a fighter, and his general grace, taking upon a nations dreams, and ending up on the covers of Time Magazine, and demanding a massive global audience in Asia, US and the EU, much similar to the phenomenon that was, and is still David Beckham. If you carry that flame, and you want to make the fans happy, Filipino or not, then pride needs to take a back seat. As a fan of Ricky Hatton, I can guarantee you, his most marketable and endearing aspect was the fact he did not give a damn, and gave those followers what they wanted and deserved, unfortunately, that was not only his best attribute, but his worst deficiency. Pacquiao has an advantage in that regard, as he bases his fighting ability, on a reasonably good guard and sound defence mechanism. Not to mention a good set of advisers around him. Pacquiao badly wants this fight, and so do we. A Boxer needs to step up to the plate here, and give us our monies worth. Floyd will not budge, that much is academic, so Manny has the option here to still make a hell of a lot of money, gain even more respect from that adoring TV viewer and even the International press, by talking the hit with the purse, and taking those blood tests which should of been taken initially; if you are a clean fighter no?
The reason this fight needs to be made is that it can truly wipe the floor with that mainstream market, capturing the 18-25 demographic which has allegedly been tied into the MMA/UFC market, and can be not so much taken over, but can be capitalized on via a shared market, which has shamelessly and stupidly been ignored of late. The formats on offer from our flexible friends in the martial arts and cage fighting industries are superb, generate a loyal and enthusiastic fan base, and from recent research shows signs of a long term relationship between punter and fighter ensuring the future of their sport, giving it further leeway in that other cross-generated market we discussed; the mainstream. Easy peasy, Lemon squeezy we say. Enter the ego. Unfortunately promoters and fighters, they kinda got their own business going on. Split purses, smearing campaigns, siding with their star attractions, making fights then mean nothing to anyone in the world, bar the fighter in questions legacy/standing in the sport (See Cotto V Foreman) and generally ripping the fan off for their money, but always ensuring they make a healthy profit at all times. Luckily cats like HBO have caught on to such naughtiness, canceling the likes of Klitschko’s fights, against abysmal, non-worthy contenders for three quarters of the Worlds Heavyweight straps. One prime example is Albert Sosnowski, on offer to Vitali for the WBC portion of the pie, but gladly not on any major Western TV network this weekend. Thanks lads, appreciate the blackout, but make sure you pull your weight with regards to the K2/Haye negotiations.
So here we sit, a few months away from a summer of sport which has no real reps from our end, as it stands with Haye and K2, it’s getting boring, and one of them seems to be sacred, or maybe as we discussed, one has that horrible ego syndrome which only screws one side of that HD TV you bought on credit to watch the likes of them in ‘super-fights’. Make the stand for the fan Manny! Your legacy awaits cement, and you can double the amount of respect I and millions of others have for you, in taking the tests and splitting that huge purse, Floyd will have nowhere else to run my friend. Let’s pray it happens, for all of our sakes. If it gets made, I might even promise to fully cancel the World Cup. (That’s Soccer for the Yanks). Kind of a personal sacrifice to thank both fighters for making potentially the biggest fight of all-time. The offers there for 28 days lads…..
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Hey Jordan, do you have a contcat email?
@RDZ
Hey,
now thats a good comment a Canelo and the cheater Margarito would be a good fight having to see the undeffeated new boxing star kO margarito would be a gr8 thing to see.
idk why margarito bothered to come back. his last fight was such a boring one that he couldnt even get any punches in directly.
on to paul the loser williams well hes a good boxer but exactly what you said that hes way taller than most of his opponents and i think hes scared to go up in weight classes. but in the ring with pacquiao, he still wouldnt have a chance.
mayweather and pacquiao WOW this is it. mayweather will just run all over the ring trying to duck and dodge the combos that manny will throw at him but they will not work cause pacquiao is a machine that doesnt stop throwing connections, after this fight there will be no one left to take the Phillipino Champ to prove a royalty seat on the most rated all time greatest fighter P4P champion of the world………………….
“GO TEAM PACQUIAO”
Well I can Only see it too. But its going to happen at Cowboys Stadium its way too much money for it not to happen there, aswell as the fight itself!!! Manny Pacquiao will dominate the ring knocking Mayweather out “Piece of cake” the mayweather fans are all in denial but thats a fact in the world of Boxing so the fight is going to happen.
Margarito/Pacquiao Bad Idea.. “Margarito/ Canelo Alvarez, Now thats got a ring to it” Canelo is the future welterweight champ going for Mayweather!!!
Paul Williams/Pacquiao Waste of time… and that williams is way to tall “come on he needs to gain weight to go some one his size”
Valero would have been a great opponent for PAC-MAN..
“RIP Edwin Valero”
Top Rank & Golden Boy Promotions:
Nov. 13 2010 Arlington, TX
Cowboys Stadium 9pm ET/6pm PT
PACQUIAO VS MAYWEATHER the only solution and the only one real true Pound For Pound CHAMP
-Eric Rdz
Looks like the author has placed the burden of the fight being made on the shoulders of Pacquiao. The problem here is Floyd is not willing to fight Pacquiao for all intents and purposes. We will just see again all the screens and mirrors to be used by Floyds camp to dodge Manny Pacquiao.
@ YAWN…
HEY MAN, IT IS REALLY HARD TO STOOP DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL…YOU ARE BEYOND REACH, INDEED. LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE BRAINLESS AT ALL…UNBELIEVABLE.
TO TELL YOU FRANKLY, I CAN’T IMAGINE HOW SMALL YOUR BRAIN IS…THOSE CHERRY-PICKER FILIPINOS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO INSULT HAVE BIGGER BRAINS AND MUCH, MUCH HIGHER IQ’s THAN YOU DO. I BET 150% AND IT WILL COME TRUE. PICK ONE OF THEM AND TRY IF YOU DARE.
YOU ARE A SHAME TO ALL AMERICANS IF YOU REALLY ARE. YOU ARE JUST HIDING BEHIND THE FADING STRENGTH AND GLORY OF THE U.S.A.
BUT AS AN INDIVIDUAL, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT AN IDIOT, MORON, IGNORANT AND ILITERATE PERSON WHO HAPPENED TO HAVE LIVED IN A FIRST WOLRD COUNTRY.
I CAN TAKE YOU ANYTIME YOU WANT TO TEST YOUR BRAIN AND MENTAL HEALTH.
FOR SURE, JUST LIKE YOUR IDIOL, YOU WILL COME OUT SHORT.
Nice article, well written…Abit long midway but nice opening Jordan! I see your point, and I too hope Pac-Man takes his test and gives us the mega fight- I also like how you think it is essential to keep ahead of the UFC something which is angering me! Boxing IS and always will be better than MMA- Because we can make superfights, heros and fights people remember all their lives!
roberto duran i love you
Cheers Manong, much appreciated feedback. Yes there are quite a few on here. If you search my name the boxing news on google/on here, they should come up.
Love this article Jordan. Do you have other articles? Short stories? Keep on writing!
Manny, give in. Take the split and the tests. And then help your people in Sarangani afterwards.
What a career!!!
@kevin
marquez and mosley had a combined record of 10 losses wen they fought mayweather, thats hardly impressive….its no suprise mayweather won those fights
@ JIM
you are absolutely right jim.. IT WAS A RIGGED FIGHT. MOSELY JUST STOP THROWING HIS RIGHT AND STARTED DANCING LIKE ROCKY BALBOA…I THINK HE WAS AUDITIONING FOR DANCING WITH THE STARS…PEACE
Why does Manny have to yield to Mayweather’s demands to make the fight? This writer is onviously favoring Floyd for the wong reasons. Floyd is a spoild brat and a bully, Manny will not give in to him just because he says so. Somebody should teach Floyd a lesson
Money vs Sugar was a fixed fight…. watch again the second round…
@usada testings are needed
You didn’t do boxing just your routine exercises, moron! Good for you, blood drawing didn’t affect you but some people are affected to it. Respect others who don’t want it. Your argument is so dumb one sided.
Man, I always thought Stoddart didn’t know what he was talking about, but this is just… how does his contributions to this site go through?
seriesly floyd is just to simply good for manny, poor manny fight someone u could beat
@chrissyboy
man youre full of it DUDE ODH was super weight drained… he looked horrible on sight. and hatton didnt even fight kostya tszyu before he fought pacquiao he fought juan lazcano and paperweight malignaggi…. you dont even know boxing man. pacquiao fought all his fighters coming off loses in there last major fights against a-listers. when you compare mayweathers track record with pacs there is none. mayweathers fought the better opponents point blank. and when was cotto calling mayweather out? he’s never once said mayweathers name in a post fight interview or any interview for that matter.
Why is Vegas making Manny a 3-1 underdog?????? They know that a half a million fillipino americans live within a few hundred miles,and will rush out and place a bet once this fight is made.When this fight happens,whole fillipino neighborhoods will go broke….3-1 !!!! who do you trust with your life savings? Freddie Roach? Bob Arum? Look I love America as much as the next guy.I’m true blue,but anyone with eyes can see that the corporations that have been exploiting the phillipines forever,are the same corporations that are about to take you to the cleaners.Why is it 3-1? Manny cant beat Floyd.Period. Dont take my word for it.Spend your kids tuition on Manny and see for yourself.
Great article.Thanks.You are right.It’s up to Paquiao to make this fight.I would advise him to not make this fight.Fight someone else and go out a winner.It will make it easier to win elections in the future.Why is Pacman a 3-1 underdog? because Vegas knows what all true boxing fans know.Manny cant beat Floyd.Period.
well, a lot of people disagree with you, as they do with me. by the way you do it, i didnt just mean what he says, i mean the way he fights, the fights he picks, the lot. ‘legacy’, ‘record’ and ‘character’ are, after all, three very different words
Chrissy, its not about what Mayweather says, its about what he does. And what he has done and is continuing to do is line the best fighters up, and beat them easily. You like Pac’s personality more, but he hasn’t accomplished anything in the ring Mayweather hasn’t, and that’s been established in our little debate here. I’ve been a bigger Pacquaio fan than Mayweather fan over the years. That said, its ridiculous to try and state that Pac has fought better opponents because he hasn’t.
fair enough about b-hop, i’ve said the same in the past. but if there’s one thing to be said about b-hop, he’ll fight anyone for sure. calling out david haye at 45 or 263 or whatever, dude is crazy. floyd makes no bones about it, he aint fighting to be great, yet he calls himself the greatest ever. when talking legacy, for me it’s not just ‘this guy beat this guy’, it’s how you do it too that counts. for all his brilliance in the ring, dude’s one of the greatest pure boxers ever lived, no question, but duran has a much better legacy, even after he got routinely beat towards the end
Yeah Chrissy, I address the de la Hoya fights. Mayweather beat a better de la Hoya at 154 and Pac beat a better JMM at 130. If JMM was old and bloated against Money, de la Hoya was dehydrated and dried out against Pac. Ones no different than the other.
BTW, anyone who thinks Mayweather-de la Hoya was close knows nothing about boxing. And even if it was, Money didn’t struggle nearly as much with de la Hoya as Pac did with JMM. Oh yeah, Pac fought de la Hoya a year and a half after Pac. For a fighter pushing 40, that’s a long time buddy.
Pac is more popular, but as we’ve established, his resume not only isn’t better than Money’s, its not even as good. And you bring up B-Hop. How can you be critical of Money and not him. B-Hop’s biggest wins as a middleweight came against blown up welterweights in de la Hoya and Tito. He moved up and beat Tarver for the light heavy title. But since, he’s fought Winky (middleweight), Calzage (super middleweight), and Pavlik (middleweight.) So onewould say that he has made a career of beating up smaller guys wouldn’t you say?
and pacquiao did 12lbs in half a year to destroy a fighter floyd got an SD against not long before
man, read my earlier posts, ive been biggin’ up floyd’s skills, sayin he’ll beat manny…i say manny has a better legacy cos he’s taken more chances. guys like b-hop aint nothin on floyd skill-wise, but they’re great cos they fight anybody…ok, i aint one saying floyd has ducked his whole career, but he’s fought people at the right time. in contrast, when has manny ever not fought someone when the fans asked for it? i happen to think floyd is one of the baddest to ever lace ‘em, but he ‘retired’ when cotto was unbeaten, and has a history of fightin smaller guys..he says he fights for money, and fair play to him, but don’t then expect people to then be rating him above the warriors who fought in the classics, entertainmentwise. also, i told you before we got into this that you can pick holes in any defeat, so i didn’t wanna get into ‘floyd beats midgets’, but you insisted.
floydduck ducked mosley when mosley is at his prime, flatfooted cotto beat a faster mosley, floydduck doesnt want to fight a dangerous small pacman, your analysis are more retarded and insane, ur just a floydduck fanatic thats why.
Chrissy, Mayweather’s weigh climb was afr from steady. After leaving 130, he fought a total of 7 fights between at lightweight and 140 before jumping to welterweight. That’s a 17 lb jump in three years. Not exactly easing your way up the scale buddy.
MAYWEATHER MOSLEY FIGHT WAS FIXED AND FIXED AND FIXED JUST LIKE THEY DO IN THE WWF,WWE OR ANY WRESTLING MATCH. FLOYDIE AND OSKIE
DID THE FIXING AND FLOYDIE AND MOSLEY DID THE ACTING.
Kevin, welterweight had an established title lineage and Mayweather was the holder of that title. hatton didn’t win anything but a paper trinket. Either way, they fought and Mayweather won.
Crissy, if you want to talk about picking off paper champs. Pac did win a lineal title at flyweight, but never fought Mark “too Sharp” Johnson, who was considered the world’s best flyweight at that time. Paulie Ayala was the recognized champ at 122, Pac fought Ledwaba and never fought Ayala, “Bones” Adams, Tapia, Vazquez, or Larios (he did fight him at 130 when he was done.) he fought a paper belt holder at lightweighti n David Diaz instead of the lineal and recognized champ Casamayor. hell, Campbell had three ABC belts, yet Pac chose to fight a bum like Diaz. Mayweather is currently the lineal welterweight champ. Pac beat Cotto for a paper trinket. So I would say Pac’s beaten some paper beltholders of his own.
@hitking
not to mention hatton had a belt at 147 before so its not like he ventured into unknown territories…
yeah, the first Castillo fight was controversal, but the rematch damn sure wasn’t. Baldomir was he lineal and universally recognized welterweight champ. And de la Hoya was arguably the #1 fighter at 154 when Money got him. And I know it doesn’t count as such, but Hatton was the lineal and universally recognized 140 champ when Money got him. Yeah, it was at welter and Hatton was moving up. But Money and Hatton started fighting at the same time and Hatton is a career 140 while Money started at 130. So please, point out where Money has only beaten paper beltholders.
also, floyd did the weight steady, his body got bigger, last time out he looked stronger than shane, look at manny’s frame…
ok, floyd fighting bigger fighters…he beat paper champions, gatti washed up, baldomir, who will talk about him in years to come? castillo he barely beat…
wladamir klitschko just refused a drug test to fight povetkin,,,does that mean hes on somethin?? does that mean he’s scared?? lol hell no he just doesnt see why someone shud be able to change the rules of the commision, this is how pac feelz…
As for Morales, he was clearly past it when Pac got him. Pac fought him in the middle of a 1-5 streak. And Pac’s wins over hm are sandwiched between bad loses to C Class fighters Zahir Raheem and David Diaz. So if C Class fighters were handling Morales with ease, how was he a big win for Pac?
BTW, come on with that Maywetaher never fights anyone bigger than him sh*t. Mayweather has won titles in five divisions that range from 130-154. Fir him to do that, he spent a good portion of his career fighting bigger guys.
Chrissy, I look at the JMM fights for Money and Pac exactly how I look at the de la Hoya fights. Mayweather probably beat a better de la Hoya, but Pac beat him more convincingly. Pac probably beat a better JMM, but Mayweather beat him a lot more convincingly.
@chrissyboy
now i know you dont watch boxing floyds beaten ODH, JMM, ZAB, BLADOMIR, Coralles, CASSTILLO twice, gatti, mosley, corley, hatton
pac has barerra, morales in which he lost once, JMM in two questionable bouts, ODH,HATTON,COTTO,CLOTTEY all coming of loses and DAVID DIAZ really now whose more impressive with their victories
ok, i’ll go marquez at his own weight…you can say ‘but marquez beat him’, i say ‘but castillo beat floyd 1st time around’…it’s endless…then i say morales x 2, you say he was past his prime, i say so was mosley, chop chop had lost a loada times and was past his prime…ok then, here goes, i give him credit for oscar, floyd aint ever fought anyone bigger than him, bar corrales, who was likely drained at 135, he’s 8 foot tall!
You’re wrong, I picked Pac to destroy de la Hoya, and was hammered in forurs like this one for it. The truth is, Pac has basically fought the same fighters as Mayweather in his post lightweight career. He foguth Hatton and de la Hoya a year and a half after Mayweather. How are they great wins for him and not Money? He went life-n-death twice with JMM, while JMM didn’t win a round against Money. Cotto beat Mosley by a razor-thin decision. And afterwards, Cotto was KO’d by Margarito and Mosley detroyed Margarito while Cotto struggled with Clottey. So who was really better by the time Money and Pac got em?
Na na Chrissy. I want to put Mayweather and Pac’s resume next to each other so you can show me where Pac has fought better fighters. You came with Barerra, I matched it. What other wins do you consider noteworthy on Pac’s resume?
the point is, its easy to pick apart most victories, every guy that gets beat in the elite level is either ‘past it’ or ‘too small’. manny, in my opinion, anyway, has consistently fought guys at his weight and much bigger who were genuine operators, whereas floyd hasn’t fought all that many prime fighters at his weight. its easy to say ‘cotto got beat up by margacheato etc’, but facts are he’s one of the best of his generation, and clottey makes everyone look bad. before manny fought oscar, i bet you tipped oscar…its so easy with hindsight!!
i give him that, at 135 floyd dominated…but since then? gatti after 6 defeats and a truck load of wars, zab after he got beat bu baldomor!, i’ll give him hatton and mosley, althought its easy to say hatton was too small n mosley too old..
Do you know what? There is not any, as people quite clearly enjoy being patriotic. Whats the point in even emphasising this sport?
Most hardcore fans consider Chico Mayweather’s signature win. Prior to fighting Pac the first time, Barerra had been beaten up twice by Junior Jones and been in two wars with Morales. And was only at the status he was because he beat up an overrated Hamed. And after the Pac fight, he never beat another top fighter. Chico was knocking everyone dead when he foguth Mayweather, was undefeated, and went on to beat “Popo” Freitas, Casamayor, and Castillo in what IMO was the best fight ever. So again, was the Chico Mayweather destroyed better than the Barerra Pac destroyed?
that’s debatable…corrales was perhaps floyd’s best fight too…
I assume you’re talking about Pac’s first fight with Barerra, which IMO was his signature win. Was Barerra a more dangerous opponent at the time Pac fought him than “Chico” Corrales when Money fought him?
Chrissy, Pac’s only shocked people who don’t know very much about boxing lately. De la Hoya looked like sh*t against “2 Pound” Forbes prior to fighting Pac. Hatton was almost KO’d by Juan Lazcano proir to fighting Pac. Cotto got by a B Class fighter like Clottey by the skin of his teeth prior to fighting Pac. People have put more importance on the size of his opponents than their skill level. The truth is, he hasn’t fought a truly elite fighter since his rematch with JMM, which most felt he lost.
ok…barrera
Chrissy, you keep saying that Pac has fought better fighters than Mayweather and you’re flat out wrong. Put any Pacquaio win on the table, and I’ll put a Money win out there to match it. Who ever runs outta names first loses. You game?
@ hitking
agree with you on the prediction, i just try to make a case for pacqiao, as he’s shocked the world so many times before, been the puncher in the fight against dudes a lot bigger than himself who have dynamite themselves, the dude is bionic, i give him a chance. agreed on floyd being much more well-rounded fighter. guess i’m just pretty defensive when it comes to pacman, with all this drug business, overshadows the fact that he’s become such a great force, with skills to match most, in my opinion, despite people who talk like he’s some kinda brawler.
Mr. Romero, where are you? i am so obssessed of all your comments and the kind of bashing you’re doing. uhmm! i really love it. don’t worry i always have some for you just in case we met. i have the large size jar for your satisfaction and i don’t have to tell it to anybody your identity.
@kevin
come on man, check my posts, i’ve bigged up mayweather’s skills, said he’s gonna beat manny, but its simple that manny is more exciting. can you honestly say that you enjoy watching floyd shut out a guy pot-shotting over 12 rounds over a tear-up? as awesome as floyd is, if everyone fought like him, you couldnt charge people to watch it. manny has fought better fighters than floyd has, without question. floyd fought zab after he got it from baldomir, now what happened to either of those guys?
i can appreciate the dude, but his feats just don’t match up. also, floyd says he’d be a lot bigger if he wasn’t black – wrong, he’d be much bigger if he was approachable and fans could relate to him. thats why people wanna see him beat. aint that natural??
YES, MANNY PACQUIAO CAN DECDE THE FUTURE OF THE BOXING FANS. ONLY MANNY PACQUIAO AND NOT MAYWEATHER BECAUSE HE IS A COWARD AND THAT IS THE TRUTH.
Manok Cherrypick-iao and his fans.
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this article is clearly just supporting and serve the interest of MAYWEATHER and GBP. these people are asking PACQUIAO THE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD but they are the ones TILTING THAT FIELD IN THEIR FAVOR. PACMAN accept the 14 day cut off of the blood test to satisfy the fans. THE PURSE SPLIT becomes UNEVEN then the fight won’t happen and it is fair for the fans to understand. PACMAN will not allow these greedy AMERICANS to use him for their self service especially his opponent and the GBP. THE WORLD KNOWS THAT PACQUIAO IS THE BEST OF THIS ERA AND HE IS READY TO RETIRE WITH OR WITHOUT MAYWEATHER. PACQUIAO’s SUCCESS was achieve through hardwork and not by what he’s accused of. TO THIS WRITER, BETTER THINK OF BETTER IDEAS THAN USING PACQUIAO’S NAME TO HYPE YOUR AMERICAN COWARD IDOL.
Chrissy, Pac only has a better legacy according to his fan boys. When you put his and Mayweather’s resumes next to each other, Mayweather’s is just as good if not better.
As for do I think Mayweather’s a better fight, not necessarily. I think he’s a more complete fighter, but Pac is dynamic in what he does. If I were putting money on the fight, I’d bet on a UD win for Money just because he’s more complete, has every physical advantage, and is a match-up nightmare for Pac.
@chrissyboy
if you actually ever boxed or where actually into boxing and werent looking only for knockouts but actually knew something about the sweet science floyd mayweather wouldnt be boring to watch… my suggestion is if all you care about are knockouts go watch UFC
@hitking
Do you KNOW that floyd is better than Manny? I don’t think anybody does. The ‘experts’ all have different opinions on this one, s’why we all wanna see it. One thing is for sure, Manny has the better legacy, and doesn’t cure insomnia like floyd.
@chrissyboy
i could care less they are both two of my favorite fighters but i cant see manny winning and i kinda want floyd to win because i hate arum and i hate freddie roach
I get the feeling that Mayweather could KO Pac in the first round and a couple of you would still get on here arguing that Pac us the superior fighter. And the scary thing is, I think you would actually believe it.
mayweather the most afraid boxer to pacquiao…..the GREATEST THE DEMANDING BOXER OF ALL TIME!!!!!
MAYWEATHER=BORING MATCH….SINCE HE CAME BACK HE JUST PRODUCE 2 BORING MATCHES AND FORGETTABLE FIGHT
@chrissyboy
i like how you worded that habit portion lol nice touch but back to business i totally agree and mannys habits are lack of head movement plus he gets excited and crowds his opponents a lot…. not to mention freddie roach isnt exactly great when it comes to going up against floyd.
@chrissyboy
his foot movement isnt even better he bounces more but thats his style of fight floyd doesnt move unless he has to and when he does its always effective. plus the bouncing up and down and jitteryness of manny telegraphs alot because he boxes with a certain rythm. not to mention he lifts his elbows which is a basic boxing skill first learned but manny does have great lateral movement but when he does move lateral his punches are super predictable. idk i guess you have to know what your looking for to see it
Yawn!: you won’t last 3 step in manila boy!!a
“if you think pacquiao is even in the same zipcode as mayweather when it comes to the speed dept. than you have failed your analysis buddy”
My point there being that speed is about more than handspeed, which i assume you meant there? the foot speed and general mobility factor favours manny, floyd’s great timing will be tested like never before. not saying manny will win, of course! Also, Nazim Richardson said something interesting in the build-up to PBF-Mosley; the fans, judges, everyone in boxing assumes that to beat floyd you gotta catch up with him. why does it seem the other dude has to be the one cutting the ring off and tryin to KO floyd? if manny and floyd went 12 rounds without landing one punch, floyd would likely win! my point is, having such a legendary defense possibly makes the judges give floyd a round by default if nobody scores much.
@AHPF
another thing how will pac avoid punches… have you ever seen pac slip under a punch i sure havent…
@chrissyboy
i dont know why everyone is saying hes flat footed… he just doesnt move unless necessary and why do so when you can stand and roll with there punches then comeback with your own and conserve energy
@AHPF
i got the stats from the pac clottey fight and it was a lil exxagerated he landed like 17 percent but the reason his connect percentages are higher at welter weight are because of his opposition he fought cotto, ODH, hatton and david diaz who were all more than willing to trade with pac because he was the smaller man but more so what i was getting at was pacs jab which he only landed with 3% and its about the same in other fights its not strong ennough to set mayweather up with combos. the lead left hooks and all that work fine with somebody who is walking straight at you throwing hooks at your head but when somebody is circling to their left nuetralizing your left hand your forced to set him up with your jab to disrupt there flow and move them into your power punches. thats basic boxing man…
Good article!I agree..somebody has to be a man…a better man.One thing though,the purse should be 40-60 for the winner.Nice piece of writing Jordan.
Ten years from now and beyond Pacquiao will be remembered as one of the greatest boxers of all time together with Mohammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano while Mayweather Jr. will be remembered as the greatest coward boxer of the century.
@yawn
It’s so easy for you to judge an entire country and race because you don’t know what it’s like up there.
And if you think Pac is scared you are seriously out of your mind… LOL…
You are just a typical hater….
@Empire,
Agreed, but did those days exist?! Racist dudes used to help Jack Johnson’s opponent to get up to stop the black dude winning, Jack Kearns supposedly took a bribe to lose in a round against Dempsey…
@kevin,
i see where you’re coming from with the gameplan beinng a downfall aginst mayweather, who is such a versatile, clever fighter he barely needs one. that said mosley looked short of ideas for 35 mins against floyd, so maybe there’s something to be said for someone who has a plan against floyd. the typical swarming tactics just dont work, if floyd doesnt pot them on the way in, he’ll either get out the way or accept the clinch and do that illegal thing with his forearms that he gets away with. thats another thing people dont talk about, floyd is so great at manoevering his opponents on the inside, they’ll be right on him but can’t find anything to hit. i think footwork is the key for manny. aswell as getting pure boxers like floyd out of a tight spot, if you use your feet well enough, you can put a skillful guy like floyd out of his stride with the kind of lateral movement manny has. makes up in part for the deficit in quality you talked about referring to mosley…ok, so manny aint the greatest technician, but that straight left is there (not saying it would work against floyd, he would see that old trick coming a mile off!) because he shifts his line of attack so quick. people who say manny comes in in straight lines are deluded. pacquiao’s lack of size will be a plus for him in my opinion, floyd is much more flat-footed now than earlier in his career.
a 60/40 is totally unfair in my opinion a 52/48 will be fairer plus blood tests i think is acceptable for both sides.
this article is based on to appease the boxing fans is outright unfair just because the other one wont budge…dont you think so?
laugh, typical Filpino response. OOooo, I should walk through the streets of Manila.
LOL, no sh.t sherlock, I sure as hell am not going to find the Filpino troops in Iraq, when they pulled out EARLY after the terrorists threatened them.
Unlike the brave Italians who said “B.tch Come get Some,” and stayed.
Manny Pacquiao has nothing to prove. Mayweather is not the Boxing Comissioner and he has no right to dictate blood test on Manny Pacquiao. He is just a fighter like Pacquiao. Those demands are alibis and excuses to avoid fighting Pacquiao. It’s Mayweather who has something to prove, he should show that he is not afraid to fight Pacquiao by fighting Pacquiao fair and square.
@kevin
I don’t know where you got the stats from but compubox posts Pac’s stat by division as follows:
112 – 26%
122 to 126 – 33%
130 to 135 – 30%
140 to 147 – 43%
I don’t know where you got the 12% from.
@AHPF
two reasons clottey hid… he said pac was very fast and he also was shot he had diarrhea all week before the fight probably from being nervous but yea i doubt he was hurt. neither one of us know because we arent him so we have to go by what he says, and the facts he said he was scared and fact is he was lacking nutrients lol whether its cuz he was scared or not we dont know but we do know he wasnt holding his food down. not making an excuse for him im sure he wouldve lost had he not been sick but i bet if he opened up and fought he wouldve beat pac based on what the little punches he landed with did
Remember prior to May 1 of this year, all we would hear over and over and over again is “Mayweather is scared of top welterweights.” Now, the word welterweights has been replaced with the word Pacquaio. Mosley punked Money out after the JMM fight. Mayweather was forced into fighting Mosley. Mayweather beats Mosley like a drum. Then it becomes Mosley was old. Mosley was overtrained. Mosley took a dive. My bet is, if Mayweather beats Pac like a drum, Pac’s name will replace Mosley’s on that list of excuses, plus some.
@honest pacfan
if you think pacquiao is even in the same zipcode as mayweather when it comes to the speed dept. than you have failed your analysis buddy. and i guarantee ive been watching pac longer than you and trust me he’s not that accurate if you land 37 percent of your power punches but only land 12 percent of your overall punches that doesnt make you accurate
@chrissy
THATS A HUGE if when you talk about him catching may like mosley did ive watched that fight at least 15 times now (thanks DVR) and trust me pacs combinations as well as his jab ARE NOT good enough to set up a combo like that. and the only trouble he’s had with a southpaw is zab judah who is very very fast and has great foot movement better than both may and pac… the fact zab doesnt train is whats his downfall. i give pac alot of credit he executes his plans well but he fights the same type of fighter over and over after a while you know the
“GAMEPLAN” better than you know yourself ya knoi?
@The Empire
Amen…
@kevin
If you think Pac didn’t hurt Clottey from those body shots, you are also greatly mistaken. Even though Clottey denied it the question is, why do you think Clottey hid (we know he hides a lot in his fights) even more when facing Manny?
@kevin
Add to the fact that Mayweather has always been troubled by southpaws…
I’m not saying Pac would easily win, I’m just saying that you aren’t giving Pac enough recognition for what he brings on the table…
If this is such an easy fight for Mayweather, the fight would have already happened….
You can’t improve your ‘chin’, cos in truth the chin thing is a bit of a myth. Manny put more strength on his legs since then, and now he can take shots flush from Cotto, who bangs with the best of them at 147, and most likely above. Same thing Roach is doing with Amir Khan. He used to get put down regularly by 135lb ticklers, but now he’s swapped the Incredible Hulk’s chest and arms for a pair of thighs, and ant been hurt since. Couple that with the tighter defence, like Manny’s is, and you got a good ‘chin’. Manny took a fair few from Marquez twice and came back for more. Floyd won’t take the risk enough to KO Pacman, dude is too dangerous. And Floyd did almost get stopped by Mosley, or so it looked like. If Manny catches him like that, you can bet he wouldnt let Floyd cuddle him for a while while his head clears. That said, thats a big ‘if’, with Floyd. Pacquiao is accurate, look at the stats, it proves! If CLottey threw a punch in the fight, he’d have been sparked. No prizes for surviving, Malignaggi prides himself on toughness, but he aint tryna win, just ends up takin a beating for 11 before it’s stopped. Whether he says his trainer ruined him or not. Hatton wouldda schooled him if his trainer gave him a barn door for defense.
@kevin
- Please check Pac’s stats of accuracy besides Clottey. If you don’t understand why Pac isn’t as accurate in the Clottey fight then you just failed yourself in analyzing that fight.
- If you think Pac doesn’t come up with his own stuff on the ring here’s a few:
> Rope a dope against cotto (Roach kept asking Manny to stay away from the rope, but Pac decided this would work for him)
> Double punch on Clottey (alright this doesn’t really add to Pac’s resume, just merely highlighting that Pac does come up with his own stuff..) LOL..
- Pac recognizes Mayweather’s speed by saying he needs to be faster doesn’t mean he is slower, he just merely recognizes that he needs more speed to boost his chances of winning…
@ an honest pacfan
he can but i mean so does everybody else… mosley feinted too and it worked for a little bit but the thing is floyd always comes with a plan A,B,C,D,E and F and can adjust to any fighting style. pacquiao makkes a gameplan for each fight and does only that the whole fight. hes not fast enough for floyd (which he said himself)
and hes just far to inaccrurate and lacking in defense to defeat FMJ his style is good for he fighters he fights because he has great lateral movement while the STRAIGHT forward punch trading brawlers dont so he just circles and throws punches in bunches though very inaccurate it works because they dont have head movement as well. but you see when he fights counter punchers JMM erik morales he struggles although he handled morals later after he aged a bit but thats no excuse for morales pac just got a better gameplan and executed it perfect which he normally does but against mayweather he’ll have to come with 5 or 6 gameplans for when mayweather switches up on him.
@Yawn
People like you disgust me. You think you are so much better? LOL… You should try walking through the streets in manila and say what you are saying out loud… LOL, you will see how scared this Filipinos are…
@kevin
feint….
I reckon that’s something that Pac can do……
Just my two cents…
@jesusjones
btw that last post was me im on my work computer and it doesnt have my name saved in there
@jesusjones
so your saying pacquiao will knock mayweather out with one punch? thats what your getting at… and pacquiao doesnt have a howitzer with his left and a bazooka with his right hand lol he couldnt knock marquez out with his so called howitzer… but dude he’s super inaccurate he hit clottey with 200 out of 1200 punches and clottey stood there like a heavy bag…. he couldnt even hurt clottey with body shots. fact is he doesnt place his punches and thats not good enough to beat mayweather. not to mention mosley hits way harder than pacquiao and thats a fact because mosley puts his hips into his shots while pac just telegraphs and punches with his arms. pacquiao is too inaccurate with horrible defense and horrible head movement. he wont be able to land a high enough connect percentage to knock mayweather out which has never been done while your hero has been put to sleep twice by 115 pounders. when you go up in weight your power and speed change but your chin doesnt… thats why pac WONT fight boxers he knows what the deal is. and if somebody tags him all night he will go to sleep. pacquiao is going to bounce around and throw all these inaccurate punches while may rolls and counters with clean combinations he’ll circle to his left to nuetralize pacs left hand and blast him with quick straight rights all night. PAC will continue to not move his head and walk in with his chin straight up to the clouds and get popped all night just like he did against clottey who landed about 27 percent of his punches and he is nowhere near as fast as mayweather. he’ll hit mayweather with occasional 1-2s but he wont be able to set up a clean enough combination to knock mayweather down or even daze him… mayweathers chin is too solid to be knocked out by the liks of pacquiao by round 10 pac will be cut from his obvious lack of head movement and may will knock him out tko in 10…. got a better analysis… and please be realistic…
Hitking60,
What I was saying about the lack of evidence was that why is it just Pacqiao? OK, so FLoyd is making steps to cleaning up the sport, thats good, it needs to be done. But should Pacquiao bow to his request, when Floyd only started this grand campaign when he thought he was gonna face Manny? Definitely not. Especially when, as far as i can see anyway, suspicions seem to be based on his race. TO quote Roger Mayweather as best as i can; “he’s on the same sh** the philippino army was on – bullets was bouncin off them motherf***ers”. James Toney got banned for 90 days for testing positive for nandrolone. Margarito got 1 year for those wraps. Should have been life, was almost criminal. Nobody suspected Roy Jones when he was on the juice, even when it could be seen in his physique (another point, guys like Jones and Mosley went up fight-odd weight divisions and carried power without suspicion, and have actually now been found out, but as soon as an asian does, he must be on somethin more than porridge!). Can’t find one article claiming to see it in Pacman’s appearance. I don’t believe for a second if Manny got caught he would get away like these guys. Manny aint gonna let himself be dictated by Floyd, who has more or less said Manny is taking steroids, although recently he’s stopped that cos it makes it look like he started the campaign with Manny cos he’s scared of fightin the Manny we see. So OK, lack of evidence shouldn’t be a reason for not being tested, but one fighter doesnt run the sport, so Manny shouldnt bend over for Floyd. Can’t he just be a great fighter until we have anything suspicious enough?
They should make 60% to the winner and 40% to the loser. This I think is fair.
Manok Cherrypick-iao.
Your typical Filpino coward.
Just like those Filipino troops that pulled out of Iraq early.
Because the terrorists threatened them.
LOL.
@Mr. Romero
if you are positive that Pacquiao is using PED’s “BIG TIME” then prove it. But, please don’t use his refusal to undergo random drug testing as proof bec. he’s willing to have it done immediately right after the fight.
@ xpot
“or just a pigment of your imagination.?”
“pigment”? hahaha
What does the request for the USADA testing have to do with Mayweather having “no evidence” that Pac is a user. He never said he was a user, he just wants stricter testing in his fights. Some would say that Team Pacquaio’s reaction to the request for USADA testing is evidence that something fishy is going on in that camp.
it seems that you people are pointing your fingers to manny pacquaio as the devil now to make the concessions in order for the fight to happen. your point/s are not fair, maybe your basing your judgement from the way you have known many for being so soft and kind, an easy to please persona compare to what floyd really is. you’re wrong people, it’s really unfair to pacquaio in what they are saying to level the playing field when it’s you who are not.
@author
I’d like to see pacquiao vs mayweather as much as the next fan out there and I really hope the fight does get made. But, seeing my idol getting bulldozed with unfair accussation is just wrong.
pacquiao had already stepped up to the plate for us fans by submitting to this irrational test. To be honest with you, pacquiao’s took alot of incentive to be more humble and bow down to this thug mayweather. In my book, what pacquiao did is a disgrace and I should drop him as my idol but I love this kid. I know what he did must have placed an scar in his dignity as gentleman. So I’m keeping him. But, if my idol bend over one more time to be screwed by the mayweathers, I say someone has to pay me to give my backing.
May seem suspicious Manny wanting the cut-off date n all, but his reason for it does make sense. If he really doesn’t feel good enough to train after having blood taken, it seems a risk to go in against someone as sharp as Floyd feeling half-baked. This business about Floyd’s hands too…why is there no talk about that? No smoke without fire, after all, there’s witness accounts of Floyd’s alleged needlework, all we have for Pacquiao is his family throwin stones.
LOL ummm I think that’s pretty much the way the conversation goes between athletes and their trainers when they take steroids. You hit it right on the head. Look I’m not saying that Pac is using. I honestly don’t know. I’m just saying why do you need a cut off date. 14 days is not enough. If you have nothing to hide take the tests.
Come on YAWN, you can’t make a comment like that…you are already degrading a race here…You can’t just generalize a race like that just because you have seen one or two…Looks like that you are not a person who likes to travel places…a person who doesn’t like to read good books…and etc…
IT SHOWS….
By the way, what’s your pedigree?
Great article for a start, but not so hot on your point that Manny ‘should’ agree to what Floyd wants. Agreed, the blood tests should be there anyway, but there’s no way Floyd should be allowed to just make his own set of rules. For that point, Floyd never asked any fighters to take a blood test untill Manny. What does that suggest about PBF’s real motive? To clean up the sport, or just desperate hope that Manny is shootin’ up and he can avoid the fight/face a lesser Manny than the one we’ve seen make much bigger, world-class operators look like little girls. I don’t want this to seem like a tirade against Floyd (I don’t really believe he’s scared of Manny, perhaps just misguided by his team, who in my opinion don’t know growth hormones from sloth jawbones), ‘cos he’s proven himself enough, but when he talks about how he sells PPV, he lists fights with Oscar, Hatton and Marquez, all fighters with huge followings. So why should he get a bigger split? Manny sells the fight here. If PBF fought Clottey, would he even push the free, front-row, corporate tickets, let alone the Cowboy’s Stadium? Also, from what I gather about the drugs manny is supposed to be taking, taking them 14 days from the fight is unlikely to help that much, as you still gotta put in a a fair bit of work for the growth to really kick in, and i doubt Manny does too much strength work in the last 2 weeks. Anyway, if the fight happens, i pick Floyd to win on decision, not sure if Manny is quite versatile enough to adapt to Floyd when Floyd finds a way to negate Manny’s footwork. Hope Pacman proves me wrong, mind.
Excuse me please…WHO IS MAKING EXCUSES????? From the very start and up to now, it is FMW who is making all the excuses that he could think of and asking demands(that he knows Pacman won’t give in) SO THAT HE CAN AVOID FACING PACMAN IN THE RING. Period.
You don’t need to be a genious to detect that tactic of FMW, guys!!!!!
FMW got the size, speed and the so-called technical skills…SO WHAT’S THE HECK????? GO AND FIGHT!!!!
Tell your guy to just face Pacman and stop talking…
Out of all the professional athletes in the world, only a single Filipino refuses to be tested for PEDs.
No wonder they’re considered the ‘armpit of Asia.’
It’s funny but most Asians actually get offended if they’re mistakenly identified as Filipino.
LOL.
I mean seriously. I know this is a down fight week, but come on. Do we have to be alerted every time Mayweather or Pacquaio sits down to take a sh*t?
Mike Tyson asked Evander Holyfield to take a take a drug test and he did it. Boxing fans will talk about both of them forever. Floyd is in that conversation too. I’m a fan of Manny but if he uses the excuse that he’s getting bullied in the negotiations then I’m telling my kids he didn’t want to take that random test. I don’t know enough about him personally to be able to say he’s clean. All those baseball players said the same thing, why should I believe anything different. He’s a good guy? He’s religious? He’s a family man? Just take the test and stop making excuses. Give the fans what they want. If it comes out that he’s dirty he will be shamed through out history.
Jordan Stoddart,
Get a life mate!
@xspot
I didn’t even understand your last sentence. Number to a Lab Experiment? Where’s your Lab Experiment that says it doesn’t. I know what I read and I’m not an idiot. EPO could be used and out of system within days if you know what you’re doing. And I’m pretty sure they know what they’re doing. (if he is using)
Manny should do the drug test, PBF should get 60/40 (men lie, women lie, numbers don’t) He brings in more money. Pac can get the rest Ring Size, glove size, Weight Stipulations whatever he wants.
For everyone saying PBF is scared is just stupid. Neither of these guys are scared of the other. They are both great professionals. Hopefully we can see a great fight.
kevin says:
May 27, 2010 at 2:24 pm
The thing i dont get the most about pac-maniacs i wont say pac fans because im a fan too but i dont get how drug testing is a BAD THING for the sport?
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It’s not the drug testing. PAC is more than willing to submit himself to the test but the way Floyd dictates and demand his stupid terms makes him look like a scared-y-cat to me. Is FLOYD doing more to make this fight happen or is he just looking for barriers and lame excuses just so he can avoid the fight?
Jordan Stoddart, nice piece to read. We know that Manny is so eager to fight Floyd and to please his fans. Even if Manny had agreed Floyd’s demands in their first negotiation- I didn’t see Floyd was brave enough to fight Manny – till now.
I really enjoyed the article Jordan. Hoping the response column wont be over run with the same old arguments of whod win and the drugs thing.
This will be the biggest fight the world has seen since the prime Tyson era, maybe beyond. There wont be a single boxing fan in the world not interested and the whole drama of the build up and the rest will bring in new boxing fans.
Boxing needs events and drama like this to grow, sounds daft its a very old and established sport but the TV networks need to see it is in high demand before they pay for it. And as much as it pains me to say it not enough people care.
Where i work theres about 35 people, im known as the big boxing fan, theres another fan, a bloke who likes to just watch Brits but most of them have asked about Mayweather v Pacman.
@ Kevin
Because unlike your Daddy Floyd, Pacwants it to happen because it what people want to happen. Your man is just playing games and he’s the only one playing. You like planing with kids or do you want to grow up and talk like men. Making false accusation and smearing a name is an elementary school yard game. get over yourself.
Like I told you before, Manny is a south paw with a Howitzer for a left and a Bazooka for a right.
You return, Floyd is counter puncher and will pot shot Pacquaio all night. Sounds like Pacquiao will never hit Floyd. Sounds like a master game plan. Only way Pacquaio will never hit Floyd’s is if Floyd runs around all night after tasting a power punch. another way of Floyd not getting hit is by not making the fight happen.
What you gonna do if Manny agrees to pee in a cup after every round? LOL!
@xspot
If drug test stopped 14 days before the fight, you can take plenty of things that can clear out of your system in 3-5 days. Especially things that can build your stamina. If Pac has nothing to hide just take the freaking test. It’s not a big deal. You recoup in like an hour after a blood test.
@xspot
right, but i mean its not like theyre trying to shaft pacquiao golden boy tried to have a third party do the testing just so it wasnt USADA because thats who floyd brought up. It’s not like they were just tryna bully their way in they are trying to compromise you know
@XSPOT
i mean i get that but ultimately its not that bad a thing.. the only reason it makes it a problem is the ego’s clashing. during the first negotiations freddie roach and bob arum were the ones to disagree not pac so i mean if the fight fails thats really whose fault it is
The thing i dont get the most about pac-maniacs i wont say pac fans because im a fan too but i dont get how drug testing is a BAD THING for the sport?
@XSPOT
okay that takes away one of pacs demands but he still outweighs mayweather 3 to 2 on that aspect
i agree with this article up to the point of pacman bending over for mayweather.this should be a 50-50 split.mayweather is trying to get the upper hand mentally.thats what this whole drug testing issue is about. if floyd doesnt want to man up and make this fight pac should move on and fight someone else
@XSPOT
youre quite the pretender you havent cam up with anything? lol its obvious pac still makes rookie mistakes, no head movement, no defense, bad punch technique, bad footwork, no punch accuracy…. im waiting dude how will pacquiao win? NO PACFANS CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION NONE IN THE WORLD LOL SERIOUSLY!! HAHAHA whose really the pretender?
@JESUSJONES
HAHAHAHA youve had a while now… how do you think pacman will win the fight? i give this challenge to two pacman fans and neither of them can come up with anything lol all they can say is mayweather doesnt care about fans mayweather is accusing pacquiao of something with no proof i hate mayweather blah blah blah hahaha you guys are such tools!
@ Kevin
I shut you up a while back with you contradictions.
Go ahead and prove a point that Mayweather will concede for just a moment to do it for the fans. You’ll just come back with he’s a smart businessman.
Don’t don’t bait me in with these other cats, played your game of chasing the dogs tail just to do it. You are a waste of space and an asset to this site.
AGGHHH good ol jesusjones still proving no points just hating on floyd mayweather and riding pacquaios d!ck lol
Great article Jordan. That’s a lot of weight on Pacquaio’s shoulders. Making not only his fans and casual fans but also Floyd’s fans who does not appreciate values. Floyd fans did not fall from that Floyd Jr bandwagon tree stump.
@xspot
of course he can the real question is is mannys jab good enough to set up a straight left hand. or better yet is he fast enough to react to the counter punch may will throw right when pac lifts his elbow up to telegraph his jab? and of course you didnt answer my question THUS proving me right… you just hang on to pacquaio cuz you like him your a fan of pac not a fan of boxing lol loser
@P4P FRAUD
DUDE its was RANDOM blood testing they didnt say its blood testing and its gauranteed the day of the fight. the reason for random blood testing isnt to harass the fighters and blood test them on the way to the ring its so they dont know when they’ll get tested. if you know you wont get tested 2 weeks before the test you have a chance to cheat but if you dont know when youll get tested then you wont cheat because you wont want to get caught. its to deter the thought of cheating. people just arent very smart these days. nothing in the contract said yea we’ll blood test eveeryday and including the day of the fight… its RANDOM
Thanks for the feedback guys, no need for arguments above though, this is the reason and basis for this article.
blood test after the fight should be good enough. No roider would even think about accepting such a thing.
The US anti doping organization is a joke. They didnt even test Floyd and his buttboy Shane on the day of the fight. They gave these two Americans a chance to cheat
what a biased garbage way of testing. As far as we know, Floyd is on steroids
@XSPOT
REALLY? ok why do you think pacman will when… whats his blueprint? after you think all day and come up with nonsense ill prove you wrong
dont give in to Mayweathers demands
its humiliating for the filipino people that their hero bows down to a lowlife black man
Refreshing…
@XSPOT
lol yea pretty much because i come here to see good boxing conversation and theres a million pacquaio fans here which isnt the problem, the problem is the ones like you who have nothing valid to say they just say pac is the best but dont provide why they think so or how they think he’ll beat mayweather they just say may is scared pacs the best BLAH BLAH BLAH hes so strong nobody can beat him… get real… and most of yall aint even real fans yall probably started watching him after the first marquez fight not even his whole career and have the nerve to see he’s indestructable when youve seen like 10 percent of his fights
@ Paddy Kelly
You just missed the point. ‘Manny has to give the blood tests or people will think he’s a cheat.
Manny has to do nothing. All of this because of one person’s ego and pointing a bad light on someone else. This article is asking Pacquiao to do it for the fans. Something that Mayweather will never consider. Did you watch the Mosley fight? Figured out why he fought the way he fpught. It was all for the money and to have leverage. But the man claims it to be for the fans. So he must have been doing things for himself in his last 40 fights. Now he is doing it for the fans and now he’s cleaning up the sport of boxing.
Get over yourselves.
1,000,000 million floyd fans will say something bad to pacs.
1,000,000 million pacs fans will say something bad to floyd.
1,000,000 million Neutral boxing fans will say something that make sense.
That’s the total of 3,000,000 PPV buy. Let’s get it on.
@rob
…………. really? dude they never said they would take blood test up until and on the day of the fight. they said they have the RIGHT TO. thats the whole point of random blood testing… its not to harass the fighters and draw blood every five minutes its to discourage them from cheating if you dont know when they will test then you’re way more reluctant to cheat hence the word RANDOM…. not guaranteed testing the day of the fight
Great Piece, THIS IS WHAT I LIKE READING!!
ALL BOXING FANS NOW WE ARE LISTENING THAT A BOXER CAN CHEAT IN 14 DAYS WINDOW! IF THIS IS TRUE THAN I FEEL SORRY FOR POOR SHANE MOSELEY CAUSE MOSELEY DIDNT KNOW THAT USADA ARE NOT TAKING THERE BLOOD FOR 18 DAYS BUT USADA ARE VERY CLOSE TO MAYWEATHER SO A BOXER CAN CHEAT IN 14 DAYS WINDOW THAN THERE WAS 19 DAYS FOR MAYWEATHER. THINK CAREFULLY 19 DAYS! WHY? why? WHY? 19 DAYS ANY COULD BE HAPPEN ON THOSE DAYS I HOPE MAYWEATHER WAS CLEAN BUT IF HE WASNT THAN POOR SHANE WAS VICTIM OF DIRTY TACTICS. NOW ITS TOO LATE FOR SHANE BUT MANNY AND THE REST OF THE HONEST BOXER BE AWARE. YOU COULD BE THE NEXT VICTIM. AGAIN I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR “I AM NOT SAYING MAYWEATHER WAS NOT CLEAN” AS THEY SAID BOXER CAN CHEAT IN 14 DAYS. ??????? GOD KNOWS
@XSPOT
you just proved you are merely a fan….. you watch nothing but pacquiao fights and thats it lol or else you would know otherwise
This is a well written article but just one, small disagreement – Buchanan Vs Duran wasn’t one-sided. Duran is winning undoubtedly, but he was a fast starter and Buchanan slow and it really was a war of attrition that was headed for the Championship rounds with both men wearying. Sadly, it culminated in a post-bell, literally ball-bursting low blow and then a dodgy refereeing decision before that point but Duran has said in interviews that Buchanan was the toughest man he’s ever fought.
Manny Pacquiao is the biggest fraud in boxing’s history.
Now this is what you call writting nice piece of article Dave Larhr should read this and learn from this guy, sport magazine , time magazine worthy of an article. good job writer.
boy,you must have had a sore finger after typing all that.i totally agree with what your saying and manny just has to accept what is offered at him.it was a big mistake him fighting clottey while floyd really proved what a talent he was by destoying shane mosley.manny has to give the blood tests or people will think he is a cheat.i personally think that manny only has one fight left in him before he retires to help the people of the philippines and that is why i think he will give in to floyds demands to give the fans the fight that they want to see.he will then go down as the greatest boxer that ever walked the planet…