Ellerbe says Mayweather isn’t thinking about Pacquiao – News
May 10th, 2010
By Jim Dower: Leonard Ellerbe, the adviser for Floyd Mayweather Jr., is denying that Mayweather will be starting negotiations with World Boxing Organization welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao on Tuesday, according to an interview of Ellerbe by writer David Mayor of the Grand Rapids Press. Earlier today, Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, told the Associated Press, that negotiations for a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight would begin tomorrow on Tuesday for a mega fight, which he thinks will take place in November.
So what has changed? Well, for starters Mayweather looked sensational in defeating Shane Mosley by a one-sided 12 round decision on May 1st. That fight has gone a long ways towards making a lot of boxing fans feel that Mayweather is the best fighter in the sport. The reason is simple. He dominated Mosley, a very good fighter, and made him look overmatched out of his league. This is the second good fighter that Mayweather has done this to in the past year. He previously beat Juan Manuel Marquez by a lopsided 12 round decision last September in his first fight back from a 2 year retirement.
Ellerbe says “Who are they negotiating with, themselves?” It looks like Roach was getting ahead of himself in talking about negotiations that don’t yet exist between Mayweather and Pacquiao. Ellerbe is saying that Mayweather made $40 million of the Mosley fight alone. If he’s making that kind of money, Mayweather might not need to go through the hassle of putting together a fight with Pacquiao, especially if it means more trouble over the random drug tests that Mayweather wants and Pacquiao doesn’t.
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Floyd is not the only option for Manny either. Manny already received so many awards and recognitions. He is the only boxer with such great achievements of all the boxers of this era. He is already considered an All Time Great. He is a new congressman in his province Sarangani. He has lots of businesses and he can live like a king. What for can he ask for? Floyd is cowering in fear when Pacman’s name is mentioned. Floyd can never be number one because he is avoiding Pacman. I say to Floyd, defeat Manny in the ring to prove the world that you are really number one P4P king.
Floyd is number one questionable Pound4Pound King. He should defeat Manny in the ring first to get the title.
where is your american ducking hero? cleaning the sports he belong or cleaning the old and non-capable?
@usuckfloyd – How do you know Manny is clean? Is it because of his humble persona? Is it because he “looks” so honest? Maybe it’s because he passed the same tests SSM did…with flying colors? Why?
The truth is NONE of us know whether Manny is clean. But, after he takes those tests…we can put this issue to rest.
Preach…
@olympic medalist – Who said they were foolproof? They are, simply, the recognized authority on this matter. So, are you saying nothing should be done? Should we have 15 rounds too, and no testing…just like the good ol’ days? Since other countries also do this type of testing…should they not use the recognized authorities, on this matter, in their own countries? Like most areas fraught with crime…the criminals are a few steps ahead of the methods of detection. But, at least USADA, and similar organizations, are truly dedicated to reversing this trend in US sports.
Preach…
pacquioa please fight floyd
IF THIS FIGHT HAPPENS, I SAYING IT RIGHT NOW FLOYD WILL WIN, FLOYD IS GOING TO DESTROY THIS GUY IN RING, I BET ON IT WHO EVER WANTS
i am the greatest
i love your name !! and your post is the truth too .. they had thier chance and fought a nobody instead.. advantage – my son floyd !
i think floyd would pick pacquioa apart
SERIESLY, i see floyd ending the career of the lil phillipino cuz floyds hates the guy
Unfortunately for Bob Arum, he has lost all negotiating leverage for a fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao. Pacquiao will be forced to concede to testing, as well as accept something much less than a 50/50 share of the pot. I would say a 60/40 split will be the final verdict. You had your chance 6 months ago….Oh well!!!
@ImTellingThe Truth – The commission already did speak up, and they said the fighters are FREE to NEGOTIATE this matter, just as they are free to negotiate glove size, ring size, purse split, venue, etc…
Mayweather was within his rights, to ask for the ADDITIONAL testing (because, they still have to also pass the testing for the Commission). Pacquiao was within his right to refuse, renegotiate, or whatever.
If the Commission wants to help matters at all, they will implement the best testing possible. Both fighters will then defer to the Commission. If the testing is anything less than what was done for Mosely/Mayweather (whether it involves blood testing or a proven, accepted, urine based alternative), it will not help the situation.
If the Commission had any doubt about the need for such testing, they should not any longer. THEY are holding up the mega fight, because, they can’t get their act together. However, they are trying to do so by fall, as I understand it.
MAYWEATHER is #1 P4P and is 100% CLEAN, wiling and ready to take any DRUG TEST! Whether you like him or not, he’s a true champion!
Again, Mayweather is not a Boxing Athletic Commission. He is a boxer and he should fight within the guideline of the governing body according to the standard rule existing. If he does not, he should just hang up his gloves. If the current governing body feels that a new testing procedure should be adopted, then all boxers must abide. To date, we have not heard anything from the official body. Whats going on? Time to speak up! Everytime, its only the Mayweather who opens his mouth. Why can’t the officers of the Commission say something? Don’t let this guy lead everyone because it should not be his role. He is a boxer with an idea that suits his predelictions.
Common Boxing Commission, speak out!!! We want Mayweather-Pacquiao fight to happen and its not getting there. Mayweather wanted to change the rule. If you agree, then by all means change it and lets move forward. If you don’t, then tell him to STOP because he is taking over your role and responsibilities!!!!
Ellerbe says Mayweather isn’t thinking about Pacquiao. Didn’t you hear that postfight interview with Larry Merchant, who called Floyd ‘the dodger’. Floyd insisted on his BS random testing excuse and that’s how he already ducked Manny. So, they never want to think about Manny coz they’re still scared. Got it?
The problem with Money is his head: he’s got nothing inside and out.
Some of you seem so ready to blame Floyd for this fight not happening. But, what you must realize, the terms were stated very clearly, after the Mosely fight. He said, “NO TEST, NO FIGHT”. Does that sound negotiable to you? He also said, “Manny knows where to find me.” Does that sound like somebody who is scared? He did not say…”Uh…Uh…I’ve been meaning to get my tooth fixed Larry…uh…I’m going to go on vacation Larry.” He did not even say what most fighters say (including himself at times)…”Uh…I’m going to leave it to my promoters about who I fight next.” Basically, he gave Larry Merchant a straight, concise answer.
It’s Manny’s camp who is still looking for wiggle room. Either they want the fight or not…the terms are very simple. As far as the split, there’s enough on the table for everyone. But, I wouldn’t blame Floyd for asking for a slightly bigger cut. He is considered the #1 WW, now. He had to take it from a fighter, Manny would not step in the ring with. He is also proven to be the bigger draw. Therefore, he deserves a bigger cut.
Let’s not act as if Manny negotiations are always easy and straightforward. Had Hatton not agreed to a lesser split, even though he was the more established fighter at JWW, and the concensus champion, and Manny was not yet proven at that weight, there would not have been a fight. It almost fell through, because Manny refused to take less…or even 50/50. The Cotto fight almost fell through, because, Manny and Co. made a deal with Cotto, for a non-title bout at 145 (originally they asked for 142), and after he already agreed, they convinced the Commission, that a title fight would be in Boxing’s “best interest”. As a result, Cotto was given the choice, by the WBO, to either vacate the belt or fight for it, on Manny’s terms.
So, it looks to me, like Manny is getting a taste of his own medicine. And he’s come across someone who will not lose at the negotiating table. It’s time for him to give something up…or stop acting like be really wants this fight, as much as the fans do.
Preach…
how is anyone suppose to know that? there’s thai people on here, i heard one of the guys that knocked manny out when he was young was thai and that he was ladyboi lol… and manny will take the test and it will be a good fight……floyd’s really good though but someone needs to shut him the f*** up!
Thai translated by Google…It means Manny Pacquiao take the tests and fight…lol
yo anonymous is that khmer?
Yet another proof that Mayweather never wanted to fight Pac in the first place. Now that there is no next opponent in sight, he wants to take it easy…..Sounds like a ducker to me.
@BoxingGuy101@yahoo.com,
I agree… I think it should definitely be mandatory
In order for the fight to happen all roads must leave to USADA. If tests are not agree to than this fight won’t happen. Money also will be a big issue as Mayeather for sure would be harder to negotiate with after the Mosley payment.
Pacquiao just won a congressional seat in the Philippine election. People are so happy. When asked why they voted for him, they answered, ‘because his punches come from different angles’. LOL. Oh, the sorry plight of my homeland.
I like Manny, but I don’t think Manny wants to continue to fight. I think maybe Top Rank wants him to fight. Manny has enough money and is now in politics. But being from a third world country myself, I don’t think politicians make much $$$ unless they are corrupted.
Manny like Floyd has the personal flaw of expending a lot of money. So he need this fight as a safely move against being broke a couple of years from now.
Manny has a puncher chance against Floyd. He is fast, and has a punch and can carry a game plan. This is good against most fighters who are weight drained an overrated. Against JMM we saw how Pacman can be beaten.
Do any of you think that Floyd won’t be able to carry JMM game plan and execute it better than JMM at a higher level. Manny would have to adjust and he didn’t in 2 fight against JMM.
fm,s camp is using the blood test thing to stay away from mp.
The Commissions are USELESS. What have they done or are doing to benefit THE SPORT. They are GOOD at PIMPING the FIGHTERS and the FIGHT GAME, but that does not benefit the SPORT, matter of fact THE COMMISSIONS are responsible for the SORRY STATE THAT EXIST IN BOXING TODAY.
Don’t take Roach word seriouly. He is never been a part of Pacs negotiating team. He just train pacs for the fight. All he said is just his own opinion. By the way, all pacs fight is risky. That’s the beauty of it. Unlike floyd, he fight only if he knows that he can beat is opponent easily.
Someone has to depend pacs reputation. I know I’m outnumber. that’s the beauty of it. I like underdog.
All Manny has to do is take the damn test. If he doesn’t want to take it him and his people should just stop mentioning a Mayweather fight and move on.
floyd used to dominate smaller guys, now he’s ducking them.
fm fought jmm a mp left over.floyed was 2 weight classes above jmm and fm came in over the weight agreement fm some great champion.if fm fights cotto mp,s leftover .
how are they going to fight when neither fighter will change there stance on the drug testing?
Top and Roach are of the assumption that Floyd will give in and withdraw his request for USADA tests.
Don’t be on it, The best most marketable opponnent they could get for Floyd was Cotto, who had a whole nation behind him and they already cashed in on that.
Manny has no-one to fight that would make him a 20M purse.
Margaritio is disgraced and no one would pay to see him. Moreover, that a dangerous fight for Manny.
Mosley is a dangerous fight too, and the most it will do would be like 600K, as Floyd cashed in on that.
Fighting leftovers won’t do it for Pacman.
Everyone who is good 147-154 is dangerous for Pacman. The can make Cotto at 147 now, but people won’t pay unless it is at 154, where Cotto would have a better chance.
Manny can fight Berto too, and that would do 700-800K why not take the risk and fight Berto…?
Floyd won’t fight without tests.
for real
right now all these people worship the ground mp walks on, but when floyd totaly dominates him, like you said the excuses will be plenty !! it was the blood test, it was the needles, mayweather was bigger, it was a full moon, manny stubed his toe last night…stfu already !! the best fighter in the world is my son !!
Hahhahaa this is so pathetic. You still have those old aguments about who has faught who and who has avoided who? The same old excuses? You are the same chaps who will cry foul when Floyd takes Manny to school when they meet…Ohhhh Manny was drained of blood, ohhh they injected some staff into Manny, ohhh Manny is half his size..ohh couldn’t Floyd see that Manny’s eyes were already half clossed…Ohhh….blahhhh. You always have an excuse just like Manny, I wouldn’t be surprised anyway, Manny is the best thing that ever happened happened to the Phillipines.
the longer fm waits to fight mp the better it is for mp.fm fighting once a year will be his down fall .fm moving up in weight another down fall.fm ret.ires .good ridens.
fm is scared .
Exactly. Mayweather has so many fans who would buy PPVs of him sparring the Statue of Liberty or some corpse from the Mayflower, he doesn’t need any difficult fights. That’s why he never really thought about Pacquiao, or any other top level in shape prime fighter in the recent years. He likes ‘em old, worn, out of shape, or both.
Floyd fights once a year because he can afford such a luxury. He makes more money in one fight than most make in five-six fights. It simply shows that the level he has reached, he can do what most cant. Isn’t this fact?
let mayweather have his off time people.. after beating the guy that was too good for manny he needs a break..any one who says that a fighter of the magnitude of mayweather or pac or mosley is scared, YOU ARE RETARDTED !! after fighting 10 or 15 years profesionaly trust me they are not scared, they love the challenge !! any of you all in their shoes would do the same thing…fight once or twice a year and try to make exciting fights..this fight with manny will be easier than mosley for floyd because mosley is a better boxer .. roach will throw in the towel about the 10th round !! beleive it !!
@everyone
let it be known both Money and Manny can fight any fighter at their choosing and still generate a handsome payday so its kind of lame you people keep on tossing verbal wars repeatitively with same old pathetic accusations and speculations.
FACTS:
1.There is a governing body
2.There are requirements set by the governing body
3.Politics as always is being played by both sides
4.Speculations is not the way to submit/force someone to a test-so u fcktards better apply to be a commisioner and change that requirements
5.Writers on this site most are biased except for a few
6.There are always the pros and the antis-choose which side u are but please make a contructive and relevant ideas which maybe lying in some parts of your ageing braincells
*just tired of all these nonsense*
plaz
For as long as Manny refuses to test, we are inclined to believe that there is something fishy. Tests only will say wether Manny is clean or not. If Manny is not on something, he couldn’t have given half a dozen laughable excuses. I find it easier to test than manufacture those unbelievable excuses. Any clean person would.
Seems to me theres a buns of morons on this sight Manny did not refuse to take blood tests he only wanted a 21days cut off before the fight and will give blood right after the fight
This fight won’t happen, Mayweather will come up with something to put a stop to it like a bigger cut of the pie because he beat Mosley or Mayweather will make the blood testing closer to the fight then what Pacquiao wants. Mayweather will do anything to AVOID this fight because his daddy don’t want him to lose a fight. MAYWEATHER SR. HAS SAID IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN, “HE DOES NOT WANT JR TO FIGHT PACQUIAO”.
The fight will happen just not this year it will happen around the middle of next year. FMJ can’t fight more than once a year because he needs to give his hands a rest. His hands can’t handle the continuous training camps and fights.That’s why when FMJ fights it’s only once a year. Mayweather’s hands,shoulders,and elbows are his weak points so after a training camp and fight he rehabs them and gives them lots of rest.
Don’t waste your time on them pacs. Go ahead, fight who ever you want to fight. will watch it. They can have floyd fight who ever he want to fight. It’s boring anyway.
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@ElmoRanaz
No, he has a talisman implanted inside his skin so that he feels no pain and no fear. Search on google and you will see these people test there talisman by getting people to attack them with machetes etc – and it works. This is quite common in the far east.
So, the solution for Floyd would not be testing for PED, but an X-ray to remove the hidden talisman. These things have a small lifespan which is why his mother is beggin him to not fight anymore as he will lose his fight in 2011 – according to the calculations. So another option for Floyd is to delay until 2011.
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Just type in google “floyd mayweather debts”. This guy spends like there is no tomorrow. whatever amount he earned recently will be blown away within 12 months. Then when he needs more dosh, he knows the only man to allow him to earn the big “k-ching” is Pacman. So the arrogant little $hit will be back begging to fight Pacman again next year.
Manny’s secret ain’t PEDs. It’s dog stew and duck fetus. LOL.
Freddie Roach will throw in the towel in the 10th when Manny’s face is cut up!
Arum will put his cash cow (Pacquiao) to the slaughter house (Mayweather) soon!!!
Let’s get this CLEAR, this fight will happen. Bob will twist MANNYS ARM to take the test. He is all set to SELL HIM OUT and CA$h in on a BIG PAYDAY. Everyone knows this. The guy is unreal.
At the end of the day EPO’s are a testament to endurance. It can’t explain how Pacquiao bulked up in size, increased speed, and can eat punches. It’s just him. Steroids CAN be caught by urine tests. He’s a man of his own. Malnourished by his country, and then driven to greatness by a HOF trainer, get over it!
KFC will always have an excuse not to fight Pacman, both father & son know and admitted Southpaw is KFC’s worst nightmare and he WILL lose. This fight will never happen, not only does KFC run very well in the ring, but even better outside.
mr.sweetsci says:
May 11, 2010 at 3:05 am
the preacher…did you watch all the episode of the 24/7? also, according to the report, mosely was blood tested 8x while floyd only tested 7x. furthermore, if you notice, some of the mosely tests were done during his training while floyd was tested in his house? you call that fair?
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so what?! Mosley 8 times Floyd 7 times. The key issue here is Pac ZERO TIMES!
if you haven’t watch yet, i urge you to watch.
the preacher…did you watch all the episode of the 24/7? also, according to the report, mosely was blood tested 8x while floyd only tested 7x. furthermore, if you notice, some of the mosely tests were done during his training while floyd was tested in his house? you call that fair?
the preacher..btw, i have to disagree with you that the USADA is better that NSAC. there’s no way to compare these two. how can you say USADA is better than NSAC?
the preacher…the NSAC has been considering this method for more than 15 years now. but the innovation of urine testing regarding PEDs has vastly improved. even the USADA has adopted urine testing for EPO(blood doping). even thhe major sport in the US still prefer urine testing for theit drug testing. i know the USADA would administer the test but floyd somehow ties with this agency. would it be better if an independent agency would administer the test?
@wowzabean – Yes…I do give Manny a puncher’s chance, as well. IF they fight, I believe he will get his chance in the fight to hit Floyd clean. It’s a small window, but, he does have the speed to capitalize on it. Other than that, I believe Floyd will control the fight, and win either by UD or stoppage (due to cuts or closed eye(s), created by all the accurate counters he will land on Manny).
Preach…
I’m with Roach on this one. Pacquiao will destroy Fraud. Fraud will never be the same after.
@mr.sweetsci – It’s not Floyd who is administering the testing, it is the USADA. And YES…they clearly know more than the NSAC. The NSAC is strongly considering OSDT (or something similar, which includes blood and urine tests), and using the USADA testing done for Mayweather/Mosley as the model for this. Stay tuned.
Preach…
Pacquiao would have retired the Mosley Floyd Mayweather fought. Plain and simple. That Mosley that Floyd fought would have been beaten by Margarito. Mosley got old over night and Floyd could not put him away.
The Preacher,
You bring up some well thought out points. As a boxer winning is the prerogative of course. Nobody wants to lose, or even worse, look like a fool in the process. The perfect example, for the NBA fans out there, is the Hawks/Magic series vs. the Lakes/Jazz series (I’m a hardcore Laker fan btw). The Jazz lost giving it (possibly Pacquiao) and the Hawks folded (Mosley/Clottey).
I’ve got Mayweather by UD but I’m rooting for Pacquiao. Pac has a punchers chance, the same chance that I thought Mosley stood, but Pac has the will to win. It’ll be the best fight of my generation (I’m an 80′s kid). I just want to see it go down.
@Bilbo – If Manny was “not afraid to lose”, as you say, he would take the damn tests and fight. EVERY fighter is afraid to lose. Because, depending on HOW you lose, it could be the end of your career. After ONE lopsided loss to Floyd, many are saying SSM, who many were thinking would walk through Floyd, 2x, and set up a mega fight with Manny, should retire. It’s that simple in boxing. Once people think you’ve hit your ceiling, in terms of opposition, they don’t want to see you anymore. Especially, if you’re an older fighter, who’s been through several ‘wars’.
If Manny gets schooled by Floyd, people will be saying Manny should retire too. If it’s close, they will want to see a rematch.
JMM developed the blueprint to beat Manny, years ago. Erik Morales, gave it the stamp of approval, in his first fight with Manny. Then JMM demonstrated 4 years after his first fight with Manny, that his blueprint could still be effectively used to beat Manny. Mind you, this is after “Manilla Ice” (Manny’s right hand) had been developed, and Manny was supposed to be a much more complete fighter, per Roach. Even Roach is quoted as saying, prior to the second JMM fight, that a “counter-punching style is the way to beat Manny”. Of course we all know, that JMM did not actually win either fight. But, many, felt that he won more rounds, and in effect, won both fights. Some might argue the same for Floyd against Castillo, in the their first fight. But, an immediate rematch proved w/o a doubt, who was the better fighter.
So, I do believe Manny is afraid of losing, especially, to a fighter with a style, that cannot only carry out the JMM blueprint, but, improvise on it, as well.
the NSAC and other state athletic commisions already thought of this method(blood testing). those people who work are educated and professionals. do you guys think floyd has more knowledge about PEDs than those people? i doubt that. these people got paid for what they do. before they got their job do you think they’re beginners? for those people who agree with floyd, i know you’re not that dumb. but think again.
mr romero….and do you think blood testing is the answer? think again. what does blood testing can do that urine testing can’t? based on my 15 years of experience, urine testing is more accurate than blood testing with regards to PEDs. i personally think that this blood testing issue is by far irrelevant. by the way, we also do drug testing for pro athletes and we use urine analysis.
foreal,
And w/that comment you lost credibility.
At the same respect I think it’s time for the boxing commissions to do their jobs and step in. They know how big it is for boxing. Set some sort of blood testing requirement, perhaps even get a semi-big fight the same types of blood test. The rematch w/Marquez/Diaz should have blood testing. All GBP fighters should subject themselves to blood testing, since they themselves said it has to be done.
Set the tone and force Pacquiao into a situation. He seems honorable, if it has to be done, he’ll do it. This is the only fight since then that has blood testing as a question. Other fighters/sanctioning bodies should take initiative and lead the way.
Those that have been asking why Floyd has not asked other boxers to take tests before…here is the answer…they were simply not taking PEDs that’s why.
Do you all know what stands between Floyd and Pacman making the greatest fight of the decade?….simple blood tests!
pacman needs to just agree to the blood testing… so they can get make history…
Just shows you who’s in the driving seat. Why is Arum running arround negotiating with himself. Floyd was very clear, if Manny wants him, he knows were to find him. If he doesn’t so be it.
I read Pac won his election by a landslide.
Pac spent a lot of time helping his people before, but now it’s his job.
Maybe one, two more fights max & he’s moving on.
If a fight with Mayweather ever happens I for one will be quite surprised.
@mr romero
I agree Manny should just take the damn tests, it´s rather ridiculous that we have to talk about this for months, it´s just a blood test. I blame Pac´s team and ultimately him for dragging this out. He´s the boxer, he can just say I´ll agree to everything and let´s do this regardless of what Arum or Roach says. However I still think it says something about the mindset of Floyd that he believes he is God´s gift to boxing, nobody can touch him and yet he has doubts about how good Manny is naturally. He´s not asking Manny to take these tests because Pac sucks, regardless of what Floyd´s camp says about him being one dimensional and an easy fight. These are mind games and I´d like to see Manny agree to all the tests and settle it in the ring.
Well it looks like Ellerbe is already preparing the groundwork for Mayweather to dodge Pacquiao. Pity that the most sought after fight might not happen at all.
how can a #2 p4p boxer dominating the fight between #3 p4p fighter become the #1 p4p without fighting the current number 1 pound for pound king? Now ellerbe talking about no negotiation for the pacquiao megafight. either that they are very scared for the megafight with pacquiao (coz there is big chance floydie jr will lose)or they are simply crazy. Yea mayweather always praises ellerbe doing good job for his boxing career. I think ellerbe doing good job protecting the floydie jr precious “0″ record. As i had said before once floyd jr lose a fight and tarnish his “0″. It will be the end for his road to legacy and greatest of all time but did he say legacy don’t pay bills? coz he know he is not one of the greatest.
@anonymous
Testing has been in place for all fights for many years so why doesn´t Floyd ask for Olympic style testing against Oscar, against Hatton, against Marquez, why Manny? Do you think it has anything to do with Manny demolishing Oscar and Hatton and a fear that arose within Manny? Hatton was undefeated and was a wrecking ball before fighting Floyd and still he didn´t ask for the testing. I´m all for the testing, it´s a good thing in these big fights but let´s be honest about Floyd´s motives and why he started asking for testing with Manny and you are saying he is a suspected of roids based on what information exactly? Besides Floyd Sr. making baseless accusations there is no shred of evidence Manny is using anything. He will take the test, I´m sure of that but let´s not pretend it´s because Floyd wants to clean up the sport.
Now you can compare numbers: May/Marquez= 1 million plus buys vs Pac/Clottey = 700,000 in a fight that Bob Arum said would do over 1.2 Next May/Shane=1.4 vs Pac-Cotto=1.2 million……Hate May (and he made 40 million) all you want but the numbers don’t lie. If Pac was bigger than May He would outsell him. Period. It shouldn’t matter who he fights. Pac is already talking about fighting Cotto or Margs…two top rank fighters by the way. Tell manny to come outside his camp. And as for May fighting Paul Williams….HE HAS NOTHING TO OFFER. He and Cintron couldn’t even fill the venue they had so there is no reward there.
Pac said he won’t fight Yari Foreman because he’s too big….If May said that about PW…The chainsaws would be buzzin. May has options, but he fights Pac…He will hurt him Bad.
bilbo this is the biggest fight ever wit legacyat hand. and u know boxing nething goes . u dunno wat could hapen. n ur tellin me its ok to walk in theyr wit a guy ususpect thats on roids?. hey michal schumaker is a good driver but wud u get in the car wit him?.
@mrRomero
If it´s such a mismatch, if Pac is soooo easy to beat like a sparring partner why would Floyd demand Olympic style drug testing? You make absolutely no sense. On one hand you say that Manny is one dimensional, small, has no defense and will get destroyed by Floyd and then you have Floyd demanding extra testing to prove he´s not using PEDs, does that make any sense to you? If he is so easy to beat why do you need extra testing?
u pactards have alot of names for floyd. but after the pacman fight u guys will only call him by one name. daddy. lmaoooo
@pretty boy loyd
more like Floyd will soon be on his BACK!
PRETTY BOY FLOYD WILL SOON BE BACK !!!
AS OF NOW… PRETTY BOY FLOYD WILL BE ON VACATION…PACQUIAO CAN GO AHEAD AND
NEGOTIATE A FIGHT WITH PEE PEE DRINKER MARQUEZ FOR THE 3RD TIME… OR FIGHT WHO EVER HE WANTS…. WHO CARES.
PRETTY BOY FLOYD DON’T NEED MANNY PACQUIAO.. THERE ‘LL BE NO NEGOTIATIONS OR FUTURE FIGHT WITH THE PACMAN WHO TURNED DOWN A 25 MILLION DOLLAR DRUG TEST.
PACMAN MISSED A CHANCE TO PROVE THE WORLD THAT HE IS A CLEAN FIGHTER AND ALSO MISSED A CHANCE TO SHOW WHO IS THE WORLD’S BEST BOXER BY FIGHTING THE UNDEFEATED AND UNDISPUTED AMERICAN ‘S BEST….PRETTY BOY FLOYD. PACMAN WILL NEVER TAKE A DRUG TEST… THEREFORE ITS BEST FOR FLOYD JR… TO MOVE AND SHOWCASE HIS TALENTED SKILLS AGAINST THE BIG MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD.
floyds,is the the greatest big F*******G coward fighter of all time.
yehh of course mayweather know, pacman will put 1 loss by ko.on his o loss record.
@LIL GIANT what? you said the other day that manny will not fight floyd. and now floyd will not fight manny? whare are y? LOL!
Now that Ellerbe said himself that mayweather will not fight pacman. He siad that lil floyd will take a vacation AGAIN! This ia a Joke? I thought your man is the BEST! THE BEST RUNNER OF BOXING! what are your excuses now?
@lilgiant
I would hardly say Manny is used to losing, that´s not a very accurate statement and I say that because Manny himself has said it in interviews, that he in fact doesn´t know if he would win before fights but he would give his best effort for the fans, it´s a sincere and honest approach and I also don´t agree that Roach is afraid of manny losing. This is boxing, everyone loses at some point even if it was only in amateurs for Floyd but it´s part of sports, it´s part of life and like I said, it´s not the end of the world for Manny, he has a lot going on outside of the ring and life goes on, however, i think Floyd would curl up and die in the ring if he loses, that 0 on his record is his life force, everything he has done up to this point would be diminished, he will still go to the HOF, he´s still an amazing fighter but minus the 0 he´s not the same.
That cat don’t want to dance with that Puma they call Pacquiao. That kitty Fraud Duckweather is just one big PU$$Y. That’s as clear as water folks.
Wherever there is money Arum will be there. He knows he wants a piece of that pie. There are 2 ways. ARum gets righteous takes the high moral ground and makes Manny stop the booty juice or he says forget the drug test we’ll fight Margarito in Mexico? What a joke. How can this fight not already be scheduled? Its a shame. Someone is ducking. I hope the commision makes an example out of Manny and installs the test. Floyd should just be like you know what? Ill whoop that ass roids or not. Since he and Shane already did it I don’t see that happening.
Bilbo
Why do you know Manny isn’t afraid to lose. Manny is just use to losing and PBF isn’t. Roach is afriad of Manny losing. That’s Y they said no to a Marquez III and No PWILL CINTRON AND SHANE who begged to fight Manny
I think one of the key differences between Manny and Floyd is that Manny is not afraid to lose, he has lost earlier in his career and let´s it all hang out in the ring, there´s no half effort and if he loses he loses, it´s not the end of the world, Manny has faith and knows boxing is only 1 aspect of life and not the end all be all. This may be just my opinion but I believe Floyd is very afraid of losing, that´s not necessarily a bad thing, it motivates you to try harder and it´s gotten Floyd to 41-0 but maybe that small aspect will be the difference in this fight, who knows.
what the B-Hive Man is saying, Floyd is still a coward, and won’t face a younger and better fighter, than those last two 40 year old he’s fought!
1. Why would MW go into negotiations if he didn’t want the fight?
2. Why would MW agrre to the $10 Million, per pound over the limit if he didn’t want the fight?
These are 2 questions Pac fans don’t seem to want to answer. I like pac, and give him the nod against alot of other fighters, but this is a fight he may want to avoid. Pac has a punchers chance, but so did 41 other fighters that seemed unable to find it.
Even if Pac doesn’t fight Floyd, his career is near retirement. No fighter can go through this many wars, and sustain a long career. ASk Fernando Vargas and many others who suffered multiple wars. Boxing fan
Mayweather never really wanted to fight Pacquiao !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Mayweather is enjoying the winnings of $60 million in 2 fights. Just a couple weeks ago, Bob Arum wasn’t interested in Mayweather, now his greedy little ass has flown to P.I. to talk to Manny. Roach, is just that, a ROACH!!!
Bob Arum saw Floyd taking home $22.5 million home guaranteed in the Mosley fight. Then Bob Arum saw Floyd take home over $38 million, and he sh*t himself. Arum/Roach/ and yes PacMan can not walk away from the BIGGEST payday in boxing history this fight will do over 2.75 million PPV buys maybe over 3 million buys. This fight will be epic and I can’t wait to see it.
I hope they put the fight on IMAX. Manny will take the random blood testing the only question is how many days b4 the fight the testing stops.
Don´t worry folks, Floyd will blow through his winnings in a matter of months and will need this fight with Manny more than his bodyguards needs steroids to stay alive. By years end we will get the fight we all have been wanting to see.
who is responsible for these rules and regulatory standards. if in fact doping is an issue in boxing then yes, clean up the sport and place the rules all around the board. An equal playing feild all around. I still dont get that the fighters and the people negotiatiating the fight are the ones running the commision! The sport should be standard fair and that everyone is assured that! Yes many fighters has popped the wiz quiz! w/ Margacheato he brought light that how dangerous it is in that ring if your not scrutinizing a fighters every move! The point is a boxing commision should implement a rule, a policy, a very linient standard for every boxer not just Pacquiao or Mayweather! because of this fans of the sport may never see a fight between the best fighters of this era!
@boxingguy101 tat sounds great man. one can only dream tho right? the way we can get that done is for the public to not order one boxing match nor go to a boxing event until our demands are met.
Thats right he isnt thinking about amnny he is thinking about the MONEY he will make in MP lets tha fight happen
Pac has no defense. It’ll be a rout — Mayweather will make Pac’s face look like it went through a meat grinder. On ‘roids, Pac will go about 10 rounds before being stopped on cuts, without ‘roids about 6 or 7.
mayweather needs time to think it over. Maybe after he spends half his sh*t who knos?
Me honestly I think it should not be up to them(Mayweather/Pacquiao) to take the test or not, it should be mandatory. In every freakn sport the best meet the best and there is only 1 who’s hand will rise, and be champion at that moment. Then they do it again,there championship’s every year.Boxing is the only f en sport where fighters choose who they want to fight…It’s BS!!! Everything should be random from the drug test, right down to the fight bouts. While your at it make Boxing 15 Rounds again, half these Boxer’s would be exposed!!!
@ ALL BOXING FANS AND BOXER”S
MMA is going to clean us out if this BS! doesn’t stop!!!!!
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D.ROTe
All part of boxing,but Arum stuck his foot in his a for the bulls last time they tried to make a fight,now he’s not in the drivers seat,they should stick it to them,shouldn’t up last time.
@tommy there you go again! excuses excuses LOL! guys you’re a joke. Why can’t you accept the fact that KFC is running again! I thought he is the best! yeah i agree with you man… he’s the best runner (i thought he is a boxer, has floyd beat hussain bolt?) of all time! LOL
One 12 month period where Floyd makes more than the Yankees.Thats money.
Floyd paid off the IRS with the JMM fight.One more fight with any one and he’s up 75mil.No he doesnt need Pacman,of course being up 100 mil would be better.Still,Floyd holds all the cards now.
Floyd doesn’t want to fight Manny because he’ll be lost.