Beristain talks Pacquiao, Khan, Katsidis, Vazquez-Marquez
May 21st, 2010
By Eric Thomas: In an article at Boxingtalk.com, trainer Nacho Beristain says that his fighter Juan Manuel Marquez received an offer from Manny Pacquiao’s promotional team Top Rank, but says it was a “miserable deal,” one that he didn’t want to take. He pointed out that it wasn’t an official offer, but he wasn’t willing to accept it for a third fight between Pacquiao and Marquez. The two fighters have fought twice with the first fight ending in a 12 round draw and the second resulting in a narrow 12 round split decision win for Pacquiao in 2008.
The money for a fight between WBO lightweight interim champion Michael Katsidis and Marquez isn’t there apparently. Beristain says that Marquez isn’t ducking Katsidis, but the fight “doesn’t make sense” because Marquez typically “charges $1.5 million to $2 million to fight” and they’re talking only “$1 million” for a fight against Katsidis.
At lightweight, Marquez is still winning, but he’s taking punishment like he never did before in his career. Clearly, he’s pushing the upper limits of his size capacity to fight at that weight class and would likely be much better off if he moved back down to super featherweight or featherweight, if he could still make those two divisions. The problem is there’s not a lot of big named talent for him to fight down there and Marquez wants to stay close enough to the weight class where Pacquiao is fighting so that he can possibly get a third fight with hm.
Beristain would like to match Marquez against Ricky Hatton, but doesn’t see it happening. But he says he would take the fight for Marquez at light welterweight. However, it would depend on Hatton being able to make the light welterweight limit, which is unknown at this point because he’s put on a lot of weight in the year that he’s been out of the ring.
As for this Saturday’s fight between Rafael Marquez and Israel Vazquez, Beristain thinks that Rafael will win. He sees Marquez stopping Vazquez in the 7th round. However, he thinks both Vazquez and Marquez should retire after this fight for good, saying both of them “came out of these fights very damaged, Vazquez more than Marquez.” Vazquez suffered a detached retina in the third Marquez-Vazquez bout and has three surgeries for the problem since then. His eye now doesn’t look good in looking at it and it leaves one to wonder whether his eye will hold up under the pounding it will likely take from Marquez this Saturday night.
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@Danny Green
It doesn’t surprise The Rock you will make a “MOM” reference because we all know Aussies will just about fcuk anybody. In Australia where men are men and kangaroos are scared.
Danny Green will be fighting Manny in Austraila. Not Manny Pacquiao but Manny Siaca, and it will be another hometown advantage. Danny will be using his special wraps while the Aussie officials do their imitation of the 3 blind mice. Then the Aussie judges will be keeping score. We all know how this fight end up, padding the cheaters winning record. Now lets asses this again, plastered hand wraps….check. Aussie officials….check. Aussie Arena….check. And finally Aussie judges….check. Yep…Danny Green has this one all right.
Hi Rock… I’m really sorry I slept with your mum man, well im more sorry you found out. I can see youre still quite upset. I used a condom so don’t worry, you won’t have any lil Green bro’s or sis’. its just that she was looking so hot….man…those thighs…tell her i said high and to give me a call on 0982 394 432. cheers mate.
@ Big Sexy Aussie
The Rock just heard from a local Australian news that the country is so proud of Danny Green beating a legendary fighter Roy Jones Jr, they will erect a likeness statue on his behalf. And it will be made of PLASTER!! How appropriate.
Mel Gibson was born in New York but moved to Australia. But who the fcuk cares? Danny Green is a cheat. Cheat…cheat…and cheat.
DANNY GREEN IS A CHEAT!!! And the Rock is adamant about it. Open your eyes…..Danny Green took advantage of the situation, home court advantage, referee an Australians judges were Australians, and top that, he put plaster in his wraps while the AUSTRALIAN OFFICIALS looked the other way.
NO it was George Michael and Mel Gibson who also was spotted with Paul “crocodile dundee” Hogan. Danny Green will probably sticking a horseshoe inside his gloves in his next fight. And The Australian official will also look the other way again.
The Rock spotted Danny Green wearing the Australian Rugby jersey from Melbourne Storm. The biggest cheat in Rugby.
@Big Sexy Aussie
But how do you feel when your Aussie boxer being a blatant cheater. You cry about how Manny is cheater when we all know he passed all the test. While cheater Danny Green, an Aussie, is so pathetic that he need plaster to beat old man RJJ. Don’t you feel proud your champion is a cheater who refuse to remove his hand wraps in front of a camera? Whats up with that!!?? Danny Green must have friends in Melbourne Storms, a bunch of cheaters too.
@ Big Sexy Aussie
Danny Green just had a recent lunch date with a well known fighter. The fighter is Antonio Margarito. The Rock believe they were both exchanging ideas on the strategy of boxing and types of plasters they use. Who knows, they might invite Panama Lewis in their next lunch.
@Big Sexy Aussie
Danny Green will know be using crocodile skin boxing gloves. On top of his plastered wraps. Danny Green needed plaster to beat old man Roy JOnes Jr. What a pathetic human being? The Rock guess Australian’s are desperate to finding another national hero when Kostya Tsuyu lost to over rated Ricky Hatton.
@Big Sexy Aussie
YOu do know Danny Green refuse to remove his hand wraps on camera after his fight with Roy Jones Jr? That is mark of cheat!!! Why wouldn’t Danny Green remove his hand wraps on camera? What does he have to hide? The bottomline, The Rocks says Danny Green is plaster wrapping cheater.
@Big Sexy Aussie
Go on defend your cheater Danny Green. Danny Green is a midlevel boxer who needed plaster to beat 40 year old Roy Jones Jr. C’mon man…you know your boy cheated. “Hands of Plaster” Green next step will reading the book on winning boxing by Panama Lewis.
Because rjj got ko’d he said he cheated?? Y hasn’t anyone else from rjj team backed him up? Get over urself.
And rock, no other athlete refuses blood tests a certain amount of time out from an event, why should manny be put in clear when he does ? Cos he’s th apparent gd guy and money man is the bad guy?? Get outta here. Say what u want, but people are talking. More people are questioning manny’s reluctance/innocence now more then ever..
@Big Sexy Aussie
YOu damn well he cheated. Roy Jones Jr said he cheated using plaster in his gloves. Why don’t you admit it, your Aussie fighter is cheater. The Rock is willing to go out in the limb that official in Australia looked the other way when they were plastering Danny Green’s wraps. We know he cheated and took a book from Margarito to Winning boxing.
I mean didn’t single manny out..
Kostya tszyu was ready to be taken..
I don’t know if green cheated, if he did I feel more wouldve been made of it like it was with Margarito. But green definatly is overrated and has alot of the people over here fooled. He is ranked #2 at cruiser by one of the belts and be hasn’t even fought a cruiserweight. Rjj was shot and siaca had to come up from middleweight..
@ Big Sexy Aussie
One more thing, your homeboy Kostya Tsuyu, was totally dismantled by Ricky Hatton. The same Ricky Hatton that got put into a temporary coma in the hand of “THE CLEAN FIGHTER” Manny Pacquiao. UNlike cheater Danny Green who needed plaster in his gloves to beat old man Roy Jones Jr.
He did single manny out. He made mosely take the test too remember ???????? Also, anyone that fights money is gonna have to take the test… Maybe, jus maybe, people that are actually in ol Ed in the sport more then u and I know somethin and have known somethin that we don’t. People get banned and fail juice tests in boxing all the time, whether it be epo, testosterone or even clenbuterol..
@Big Sexy Aussie
The Rock just laughs at your name. Danny Green is a cheat. A cheater just like Margarito. We know Danny Green, an Aussie stuck plaster in his wraps ala Margarito. He knew his hometown won’t look hard into his wraps and let him slide. Danny Green’s victory of Roy Jones Jr was cheating. Yes cheating!!!
I used to be a fan of Emanuel stewerd, but I think he has a man crush on pacquiao.. Listen to him
when he talks bout manny, nearly creams his pants..
Hatton is finished.. He’s Ben around the block a few times. Weight fluctuations, ruggered tough fighting.. It wasn’t that manny looked exceptional Vs hatton, hatton jus looked like a shell of his former champion self..
Hatton comeback vs. JMM would be awesome in Wembley Stadium or the Mayweather/Pac undercard. It’s the perfect time for Floyd and Manny to fight, and considering Hatton and JMM’s career stages that would be highly competitive. Winners of those two fights can then fight next year. Why can’t the promoters get together and put on a PPV with these two fights and Alexander/Bradley so we see all these guys one night?
Wow bull, intelligent……
Is it only me or has everyone been having problems reading what they are typing in the comments form?
I think the background colour needs to be a little lighter. I can hardly see what I am typing.
Well it’s pity Hatton is in such a mess because I Marquez vs Hatton in the UK would have worked out really good for both fighters.
Pacquiao is the biggest FRAUD in boxing history. He has never unified a division for 15 years even though he went though 7 div. He has never defeated a prime, undefeated fighter for 15 years! His trainer, Freddie Roach has already trained a fighter who was taking PEDs. Manny Pacquio had turned down 40 mill to avoid random testing. For the past 5 years, he always fight a fighter who comes from a crushing defeat. He had turned down shane Mosley. He is avoiding the Four UNDEFEATED: Mayweather, Bradley; Alexander; Berto.
Wow, what I’m telling you is that we don’t know what JMM has left. He took an ass whippin by a bigger fighter, and we don’t know what he’s gonna look like coming back. Pacquaio has done better above lightweight, but he hasn’t fought the same level of competition as JMM above lightweight. And my stance about them fighting at 140 is that Pac is holding that title hostage. He was asked by The Ring to vacate the 140 strap, and he told them he wanted to keep it. So that tells me he still plans on fighting at 140. So it basically serves no purpose to fight the lightweight champ at welterweight if you’re the 140 champion. It seems to me that Pac and his camp thought JMM looked sh*tty at the weight, and want to pounce on him. The Diaz rematch will give us a better gage as to where JMM is. If he rips Diaz’ ass up like he should, I would make him a live dawg against Pac at any weight. In reality, the third fight should have happen in 2008, but Roach didn’t want it. I would have much rather seen Pacquaio-Marquez III than that garbage with David Diaz.
I really hope this fight gird ahead!!! I love money man and enjoy watching manny fight, but can’t see manny troubling Floyd. If he does, it’ll have to be early. 2/3 rnds, after that, it’s all over. Floyd by UD or 10/11 TKO..
If you really believe the now much older JMM would rock Pacquiao in the 145+ category, then I’ll just respect the fact that we have a contrast of opinions. Yea he was smaller and bloated against Mayweather, but regardless Mayweather would have conquered JMM at any weight, so I won’t use that as an excuse.
What IS inarguable, IMO, is that Pacquiao put on weight and maintained skill much better than JMM (all considering he only moved up in weight once). For Pac to cut back down to 135-140 wouldn’t make any sense seeing how he took 2 years to build up to 145-147. If JMM comes up, his speed will be gone, and it’ll be more or less of the same. JMM will get knocked down once again, but this time he won’t get back up.
That’s a joke. Just not a very funny one. Since the last fight w/JMM Pacquiao has developed his left, improved his footwork, and improved his jab. Not the same fighter, sorry buddy, he’d get rocked. Any NON Pac hater would agree.
Wow, I’ve watched JMM beat Pac about 18 of 24 rounds. Some guys are just tough for others to figure out. JMM seems to be that guy for Pac. JMM didn’t look good in his lone welterweight fight, but look at who he was fighting. Pac hasn’t anyone close to as good as Mayweather, or JMM for that matter, above 140 either. So what would happen in a theird fight between the two is bvery much an unknown at this point.
BTW, Mayweather-Marquez was just as real as Duran-Leonard I or Mosley-de la Hoya I. Great lightweights step up and beat great welters throughout boxing history. Hell, Henry Armstrong is widely known as the all-time P4P #2 and held the featherweight, lightweight, and welterweight titles simultaneously. And all these great lightweights did it without the aid of a catchweight. Many like yourself want to credit the Mayweather_Marquez result with how bad JMM was. Personally, I’ll stick to chalking it up as another masterful Mayweather performance.
hitking,
If you think JMM could beat Pacquiao at above 140 you were probably one of those guys that thought Mayweather/Marquez would be an actual fight.
Wow, Pacquaio was approached by The Ring magazine soon after his win over Clottey about vacating their 140 title. Pac refused, citing that he had full intentions of defending his The Ring and lineal 140 titles. If he plans on defending the 140 title, wouldn’t a fight against the lightweight champ logically come at 140? Doesn’t it make you at all curious why Team Pacqauio would wnt a third fight with JMM at the welterweight limit?
Marquez wants to fight Pac not because he thinks he can win, he just wants one more big payday before he retires. Pac ducking Marquez? Please. At 145 JMM would get KTFO, easy work.
Read between the lines. Beristain doesn’t give much credit to Floyd Jr., then he picks Pacquiao over Floyd, then he said Pac has a thorn in his side because he didn’t beat JMM. In effect, he is elevating his boy JMM. Beristain is a transparent idiot.
Yeah Winner, winning to the best fighter in the world two divisions north of where you rule does make you washed up. CHILD PLEASE!!!
I’m not sure if Beristain understands the situation of his fighter. Marquez’ career is almost over and Beristain still refusing a lot of offers which the peso is not really too bad at all. If Marquez can’t fight within a year or a couple of years, I wonder if they can still get what they’re asking for. They better take it now before it’s too late.
Marquez is WASHED UP! Unless you’re from Mexico and a fan of any Mexican fighter. No one wants to watch Marquez after the loss to Mayweather.
Graham, I don’t really pay attention or care about the ABC clowns. All I care about is The Ring magazine title and the lineal title. And at lightweight, JMM holds both of those. So the WB..whatever can strip whatever they want from him, he’s still the ligthweight champ until he’s beaten, retires, or leaves the division.
James, if nothing bigger comes up, I’d love to watch JMM dismantle this poorman’s Gatti. BTW, if you’re a poorman’s Gatti, you suck. But Katsidis has done nothing to earn a shot. And for him to be running around claiming one of the 2 or 3 best fighters in the world ducking him is a joke.
@ ann
Vitali Klitschko would beat Amir Kahn.
JMM is not a light walterweight you amature!
Mrromero: if I’m one of your fighter id throw you under the bus!
And it’s not like there are any big name fighters in the division who can pay him the type of money he is looking for.
@hitking-surley katsidis is the number 1 contender,he faught a split decision loss to diaz and faught the fight with a broken hand and before he got kod by casymaore he was ahead on points,since then diaz has looked terrible and casymaore has got old,so i think katsidis is rightly so the number 1 contender.
I rather see Marquez vs PAC,than PAC vs Floyd. I know people wanna see PAC and Floyd,but I really don’t think it’ll b a exciting fight,as would Marquez and PAC will. That’s the best fight I’ve seen manny in.
hitking60,
Doesn’t JMM risk having the belt stripped from him by the WBC if he refuses to fight the interim champion (Katsidis)?
Katsidis needs to concentrate on not getting beaten by guys JMM has KO’d before demanding a title shot. Katsidis is The Ring magazine #1 contender by default. Casamayor and Juan Diaz, who beat him, left the division and Valero off’d himself. Beat Funeka. Beat Gurrero. Beat Soto. But beating an overhyped prospect in no way gives Katsidis to be out here demanding a proven champion like JMM is ducking him or owes him a damn thing. Hell, had he not got his ass flattened by Casamayor or outclassed by Diaz, maybe he would have already gotten his shot when JMM hit the division.
Surely he’ll have to fight Katsidis soon or later. He can’t hold out for more money forever. Otherwise, he will have to vacate the title.
khan would easy beat marquez thats way marquez is ducking khan
Havn’t heard that one before next he’ll be fighting with his burka on with a suicide glove to blow up the MGM,good point though.
You’r accusing a person w/out any proof, you better clean your mouth coz your mouth is the one who’s dirty…,Your idiot Mr Romero…
This Mr Romero is a crazy and idiot Mexican…bring all your mexican fighter and fight Pacquaio.
Would love to see JMM in the UK against Hatton or Kham – JMM is a legend.