Arum thinks 14 days of no blood testing is reasonable for Mayweather-Pacquiao bout
May 21st, 2010
By Dave Lahr: Top Rank promoter Bob Arum thinks that 14 days of no random blood testing is reasonable, according to Yahoo Sports. Arum says “Fourteen days should give them [the United States Anti-Doping Agency] plenty of time to do what they need to do, especially in light of what they did with Mayweather and Mosley.” I don’t agree with Arum. I think the blood testing should go all the way up until the day of the fight in the textbook version of random blood testing. How can you have a 14 day window of no drug testing? What is that?
However, according to Kevin Iole’s article at Yahoo Sports, the Chief Executive Officer of USADA, Travis Tygart, sees things differently, saying “That totally misses the point [talking about Pacquiao’s 14 day concession]. If you know you aren’t going to be tested within the last 14 days, you can cheat and get away with it. It is out right to test at any time, 30 days before the fight, 20 days before, the week of, the morning of – that provides the deterrent. If you block out a period of time and say we can’t test during that period, then an athlete could cheat and get away with it.”
Bravo, Mr. Tygart, I totally agree with you. You can’t just let the testing to stop at 2 weeks before the fight, because in theory, one of the two fighters could start a small cycle of Human Growth Hormone or Anabolic Steroids and put on some good size and strength during that two week cycle. This is why both fighters need to be tested at any time up until the fight. It’s the only way to be sure that the fight is held on an even playing field. Its one thing for both fighters to say that they’ve never taken performance enhancing drugs but you have to be sure, don’t you? As U.S. former president Ronald Reagan once said, “Trust but verify.” I don’t agree with that saying.
Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe, speaking about the random blood testing, says “Random is random. It could be at any time. That’s what random means. I will say this: If and when Floyd Mayweather decides to fight again, random blood and urine testing will be part of it. Period.” Here here, I totally agree with you, Mr. Ellerbe. I’m all for drug testing. Let’s clean up boxing.
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Sad day here in sports, when random blood testing has to be negotiated. Unheard of.
Manny’s agreed to testing up to 14 days before and right after the fight. That’s fair, no matter what Dave Lahr and the rest of the Ga yweather lovers say. There’s been zero proof Manny cheats. None. And I can tell you this, I wouldn’t want needles in me right up to the biggest fight of my career, and I doubt anyone else would either. Let the fight happen for chrissakes and everybody shut the hell up about the tests. We want the fight. It’s a huge $ fight. GIVE US THE FIGHT!!!!
USADA practices double standards. For Mayweather, 19 day window without blood testing is good enough. For Pacquiao, it’s never good enough, it has to be till the day of the fight.
Lahr is a genius! You’re my favorite writer in the whole world, Lahr!
@David Lahr
Floyd’s next demand for his fight with Manny will be drug testing during the fight so to make sure nobody or Freddie is injecting Manny steroids in between rounds. Floyd is not paranoid, he is just trying to clean up boxing. Also The Rock has heard Floyd is now trying to clean up the schools in the United States, he wants random OSDT to all student from Kindergarten to the 12th grade of high school. Floyd is such a saint, he is more saintly than Mother Teresa.
40 to 60 million on the the table. The way I see it pacquiao has no choice but to take the test all the way up to the fight, having him to this will surely kill anyones doubt about cheating especially the mayweathers. However, I strongly feel pacquiao will loose huge number of his followers if decides to concede especially for money.
You see folks manny pacquiao fights with pride and if you haven’t noticed he always dedicate his bouts to his countryman, making him a hero in some sense and that’s what makes him especial to his people. Now, you folks forcing him to concede because there’s too much money on the table just to remove doubts in your mind. Hmmm. I say good luck.
Dave after you predict Manny like you GOD telling us what is in the future that he will loose,what happen now,telling us again some of your stupid stuff,you felt that floyd win resurected you from your humiliation?…stop writing pleaseeeee!…you are mking yourself look more stupid you idiot retard..
bible
The fight Will be made.. we all know that it was never any ones intention to make it last time.. no time to promote it !! why is it that you take it for granted when mayweather gives in to demands-and there are/where a bunch of them-but when its manny turn to NEGOTIATE, you say things like it takes mannys pride away or why give in to a thug mayweather !! when mayweather schools him you will be one of the first on here to try demean his victory..what will your excuse be ?? manny was too small, or will it be the TEASPOON of blood drawn TWO WEEKS ago !! heck , make up a new one !!
@ Lex-Fugitive
I have many friends and family who are huge Floyd fans. Guess what? They all now believe that Floyd has no intention of ever facing Manny.
We all agree that one guy is willing to find a way to make the fight and is not scared of facing any boxer withing his weight zone. The oter guys talks a lot and makes many demands and when they are met, make more = Floyd!
@Lacem UP
We are today having this huge debate because The Mayweathers started the unfouned rumour about Manny being on PEDS. Every chance they got the used the court of public opinion to cast doubts on what he had achieved.
On one hand the tried to discredit his wins by saying the guys were shot then they maliciously started the PEDS scandal. And now you are upset about Arum saying something which everyone already suspects…namely Poultry Boy Fraud does not really want this fight? I am sure both Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder can see that.
Can you imaging what it took for Manny to swallow his pride and give in to a demand of a man who has done his best to make him look like his btch and the world he is the king? See Manny really wants the chance to meet him but it takes two men to tango but it can’t happen if one has feathers for b@lls! The message is clear, which one is Poultry Boy Fraud and which one will end up at Kentucky in a bucket!
Every one is quick to blame mayweather for most every thing, but actually it is manny and bob arum making comments in the media every other day to manipulate the public !! What did Bob say last week ?? “we are NOT going to negotiate in the media !! They had their shot at 14 days cutoff and ran to fight clottey the statue !! Floyd fought the way better fighter in mosley. at least he was better until floyd beat him.. lol..now he is old !! Floyd aint going to back down .. mannys opponents have always fought at catchweights and most come off brutal losses.. this is the only way people can fight manny , otherwise they walk away and say so n so dont want to fight.. or they are scared !! bob wants manny to have every single advantage in negotiations.. NO WAY, not this time !! Floyd agreed last time to ALL the demands of the other side and they ran, so this time Floyds side can at least have a level playing field !!
Arum will sacrifice the cash cow to Mayweather before he retires. . . .Floyd will box the ears off Pacquiao badly.
This SUPERFIGHT will be the most one sided in the history of Boxing.
I hope Mayweather agrees, because If it goes the whole way up to the fight & WHEN Floyd whoops Pacquiao by pure skill Manny & especially his dumb fans will use a tea spoon of blood for an excuse!
this random blood testing issues is getting stupid anyway..plus theres greedy arum who always making statements beyond imagination, what matters to me is this two (pacman and floydi) must fight.. if not…then both of em are totally insane..
@ suntellmoe
Thanks for that, I did read it and it confirmed what I had thought – there was no set date of 18 days for when the fighters would be drug tested. They were not tested inside that period, but it was not a negotiated time frame. They had both just agrred to Olympic style blood testing up to the fight. Infact it even goes on to say in that article that there is no point in Mayweather allowing testing on Pacquiao to stop 14 days prior to the fight. “If you block out a period of time and say we can’t test during that period, then an athlete could cheat and get away with it.”
Either he agrees to be drug tested up to the fight, or he doesn’t. One will prove he isn’t trying to dodge Mayweather, the other will retire him to a future of constant criticism.
@OxBoxa…read kevin lole coloum at yahoo.sports
I will wait until I hear it from either Mayweather or Mosley that there was EVER a cut-off date for testing, as I dont believe there was. I believe the agreement was for Random testing up until the fight. Infact, if you watch the 24/7 episodes for that fight the USADA tested Mosley when he was about to drive to Vegas just days before the fight, and he was dehydrated from trying to make weight for the weigh-in, so I don’t know how the 18 day thing even came about…
what is the difference of 2 hrs. after the fight AND the day before the fight, your answer is CYCLING. wtf
this alibi will be over and over again, mayweather will requet blood test before pac enters the ring… every after the round pac will be drawn blood. Fak this cycling alibi.
mayweathers inconsistent demands clearly shows he don’t want a fight with pac.
a man who wants to clean the sport of boxing but doesn’t pay sanction fees, or even evading taxes. claiming pac is on peds.
mayweathers credebilty is below zero.
floydi vs mosly had 18 days random blood testing cut-off, floydi demaned pacman for 14 days cuf-off.. now floydi new demand random blood test up all the way to fight…isnt not clear enough whos ducking who?
luvboxing,
As far as why he is more agreeable a lot of it has to do w/communication. I think the lines are a lot more open now. Not only that a lot of fans are asking him to fight Mayweather, it’s the fight that everyone wants to see, and he has taken a lot of backlash for not taking the tests predesignated by Floyd. So he has to clear his name, take the tests, and give the fight that everyone wants.
to all the whiners on here saying Mosley stopped testing at 18 days, so whats wrong with Pac wanting to stop at 14….MOSLEY agreed to RANDOM testing – meaning it CAN happen ANYTIME. USADA chose not to test the fighters inside 18 days…but the threat was that they COULD come knocking right up to fight day. By Pac wanting to cut the date off at 14 days, there is no threat that he CAN be tested within that time, so IF he was to use illegal substances, he could within that time – therefore making it pointless to have had the tests done in the first place. Dont you Pac fans find it funny that he refused the 14 day cut-off period in the first round of negotiations, and THAT was the reason the fight didnt happen – but since Mayweather schooled Mosley and said he will continue with random drug testing in ANY future bouts (against Pac or not), all of a sudden Pac says he agrees to the tests if they cut off at 14 days!?!?!? THAT is NOT random testing – it has no purpose in having a cut-off date that far from the fight, and Pac knows that those terms won’t be agreed to for this fight – that is why he said it! He said it to make his fans happy, and APPEAR as if he is doing what he can for this fight to happen…when INFACT he is dodging Mayweather like he did the first time by saying stuff he knows will not be agreed to. Wake up.
FLOYD SHOULD RETIRE AND BE THE NEVADA STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION’S HEAD HONCHO…DAVID LAHR, LIAM SANTIAGO AND PBF FANATICS SHOULD ALSO WORK THERE…WIPING PBF’S ASS…
@wowza
THat is not true. When Manny walked away from the 14 day cutoff, that was the final offer. In other words, if Manny signs at a 14 day cutoff then the fight was a done deal.
I am just not sure why he is agreeable now and wasn’t then. Then again, Arum is his promoter, so that pretty much explains it.
It is easy to accept a term that isn’t available anymore.
That being said, I wish they would stay out of the media and get the fight done.
@pinoy
No he isn’t. Just a rumor.
I’m not that surprised you don’t seem like the type to have very bright friends lex.
pinoy;
First off, Mayweather used xylocaine, which like Ibuprofen is a pain killer, and has the same restrictions as Ibruprofen early in his career. He doesnt now. Second, xylocaine is legal in all 50 states. The Phillipine press and their American counter-part the Examiner ran numerous articles spreading this blatant lie. If xylcaine is a PED than so is tylenol, aspirin, and Ibuprofen, and they all have the same regulations in all 50 states. But hey pinoy, you showed the world you are ignorant, congrats!
Why wont Pac do what he said in at least two different interviews??? He said he would give blood just not a couple DAYS before the fight. Then it comes time to negotiate and he goes back on his word AGAIN. Honestly, Pac and Arum should just come out and admit they are scared to death of Floyd because the rest of the world already knows that. I have many friends that are casual fans of the sweet science and hate Mayweather with a vengeance and are huge Pac fans and all of them admit Pac is either on PEDs or just plain scared to death of Money May. There really is no other explanation for Pacs stance on PED testing changing every other day for months on end.
@ Big Alex.
That’s what I’m saying.
Personally, I admit that I’m a Pacquiao fan. And I do think that Pacquiao presents some problems for FLoyd.
BUt I also recognize that FLoyd is rightfully the favorite to win the fight. I don’t get why he’s making such a big deal out of this whole thing.
At first I thought it was a mind game, but mind games would be pointless if they prevent the fight from ever happening.
I find it hard to believe that he’s scared. The only thing I can think of is that while he was gone, Pac’s star started to rise to heights that his own had not reached. So this whole steroid thing may be an attempt to smear Pac’s rep as the guy who is bringing boxing back to the mainstream.
Pac has done more for boxing over his last four fights than Floyd has done his entire career.
Think about it. Floyd tries to take the spotlight from Pac by announcing his return the day before the Pac-Hatton fight. Didn’t work. Then, his fight with JMM wasn’t selling as much, so instead of degrading JMM’s skill, like he does with everyone else, he sells JMM as the guy who brought Pac to hell and back.
you people still don’t get it. it doesn’t matter what the date was of the last testing for floyd and shane. the point is they could have came back for more testinf before the fight. not knowing is what keeps you from cheating. it’s not like before the fight they agreed to 18 and 19 days before the fight would be the last testing. the test is supposed to be random. random means -Lacking any definite plan or order or purpose; governed by or depending on chance. knowing the last day will be 14 days before the fight defeats the purpose.
@ Preston
Drama? I’m not mad. I just read your last few posts and came to the conclusion that you are dumb. But you’re right. Your idiocy is not a big deal.
If all you Floyd fans are so sure that he can kick Pac’s a%%, why doesnt he just fight him. Are you just scared your boy will be knocked out because you think Pac is on something???? Prove yourself Floyd how good you are! I have seen plenty of boxers that were really taking steroids and still got knocked out. I think all Mayweathers excuses rubbed off on all his fans. I have yet to agree with any Mayweather fan yet and for the record, the only reason Mayweather got so many buys is not to watch him destroy but to be destoyed.
Master,
That’s just the logical, let’s talk practical. Who would be stupid enough to take PEDs when they are being tested? If Pacquiao is dumb enough to do that, I say hang him out to dry and strip him of his titles and accolades. He would be the biggest goof of our generation!
dude please…..spare me the drama. What is up with you?????? Its not that serious………sheesh……..
To everyone that says Floyd would come up with another excuse to avoid the fight, agree to the RANDOM drug tests, then we will see, won’t we? If Floyd makes another crazy demand after that besides comin to ring second, I will be the first to admit mayweather is scared.
Just take the test, and we will see if there are any more excuses.
@wowza, while I am big enough to admit that u have an excellent point about the time frame, it’s more about the principle of the matter at this point.
@ Preston.
You’re pretty dumb man.
and are we surprised to hear that a proposed third fight with JMM vs Pac was nowhere close to being made because of the “miserable deal” brought up “Team Pac”…………again its Pac’s way or no way.
i am sure you dont……………thats cool.
preston,
I have no idea what your saying.
lolol……I cant believe that you guys are runnin gwith this one just b/c Pac said that he is agreeable to 14 days……….lololo. Which one of Pac’s terms has Floyd tried to modify??????
wowza- oh, so now just b/c Pac says that he agress to 14 days b4 the fight……its ok to assume him to be responsible for the first fight not happening?????……….lolol c’mon man……..you guys are trying ti fing=d something to run with ti make Pac look good…….Pac aint fooling nobody but his fans. Floyd has been very clear on this issue…..especially so since he fought Mosely…..RANDON MEANS RANDOM…….Pac is just trying to save face here…….just get ready for Pac vs Maragarito.
Would anyone want to play a game? a guessing game that what kind of excuse will Floyd have to avoid Pacquiao again!
preston,
Well 14 days is more than enough time. This is just a d!ck move if he doesn’t sign the contract. Sign and fight, the contract’s fair. You could have blamed Pacquiao for the fight not going through before, but this is Floyd’s fault all the way if it doesn’t get signed.
14 days and a test right after the fight. EPO is in your system for 48 hours, that leaves 12 days. The last week before a fight is the cool down period you don’t train hard, so that leaves 5 days. 5 days of hard training on EPO would make Pacquiao unstoppable?????? Surely you jest.
LET’S GET IT ON!
Lets just get it out in the open floyd is scared period.He don’t make the rules,he ain’t the boss of anything but him self, what he says don’t go.I’m tired of all these excuses drug testing this and that.He says he wants to clean the sport up because whats been going on with all these fighters,when they retire how they are after that.What he needs to do look at his dad and his uncle you cant even understand them at all,but now he decides to clean it up lol please.Get over it,forget about it,stop crying about all this bull and let the commission do there job.Your not the commission and you don’t work with the commission that’s it don’t be scared.
Floyd has maintained since the first negotiations with Pac broke down that he would only be agreeable to random blood testing………….he said it immediately after the Mosely fight, and his camp reiterated this again a few weeks ago…………so how is it that Pac is agreeing to anything by saying that he is willing to take the test up to 14 days out?
Are you Pac fans really this pathetic?????? Pac is softening you guys up for the fallout…….he will say that he tried to meet Mayweather on the blood demands knowing full well that Floyd has already said that the fight will ONLY be made thru random blood testing………….so when Pac agrees to fight Antonio Margarito, you guys will be soo worked over, that there will be no aversions to it…….but the only thing that you guys will be talking about is how Floyd Mayweather being “scared” to fight Manny………………………Pac has really got you guys in the palm of his hands.
Floyd requests drug tests for the first fight and kills the deal.
Later, Pac agrees to the tests with the 14-day stipulation that was previously put out there.
Surprise surprise, FLoyd changes his own offer and hides behind testing all the way up the the fight.
Yeah, he don’t want to fight.
I agree,Floyd is just scared.Did any of the other fighters cry about testing that the pacman fought hell no.Floyd is,he don’t make the rules let the commission of where ever they fight do there job.See pacquaio is agreeing to do it,its not like if he don’t want to or anything like that.He wants to but Floyd wants him to go all the way threw with it till fight day and pacman don’t.Floyd needs to meet him at the 50 yard line half way no excuses,he wants it but you don’t,and he’s stepping to your level so give him the fourteen days that he ask for that’s it no questions ask.
floyd on peds
first of all manny didnt agree he was forced to ask for the 14 window since floy offered the last negotiations but now that floyd has proven hes the one to beat i dont think he will let the pinoy decide the shots any way if this fight happends its good for boxing but i can see already manny loosing i mean hes mentally hurt by asking now for the 14 days its all mental maybe hes not even using something but he already lost the advantage on that fight round 1 for floyd.
Hell no, we will not let that midget, no skills havin, one dimensional fightin, 0 defense showin, catch weight paper champion that can only beat washed up fighters bum pump himself full of PEDs to beat the best fighter in the Universe. Floyd could beat Manny with BOTH hands tied behind his back, yeah, you heard me correctly, that´s how GOOD he is, both hands Bit$hes! I heard for the Mosley fight Floyd was sparring with Valuev and he knocked the russian down with a jab! Oh yeah baby, it´s on!
Lahr -
Have you perhaps forgotten, that there’s also an after-fight blood testing? Let the post-fight test take place, and if Pacquiao tests positive, LET HIM FORFEIT THE PRIZE MONEY. AND PUT THIS CONDITION IN THE CONTRACT. PERIOD.
I´M OUTRAGED! If they make the cutoff 14 days prior to the fight Manny will inject himself with enough PEDs to kills 100 elephants and will obliterate Floyd, we cannot allow this to happen. Since Manny could easily turn into the incredible Pinoy Hulk in 2 weeks time we cannot stand for this, Floyd will literally be killed in the ring. With Dave Lahr as our leader we will demand drug testing up to the day of the fight, during the weigh in, during hand wraps, singing of national anthems, instructions by the ref and between rounds and if Manny somehow wins (which he cannot without PEDs) we will test him during his concert at Caesars Palace while he sings his best rendition of Queen´s ¨We are the Champions.¨
YES SIR!
There are many different types of peds cheats. There is HGH, steroids, blood transfusion ets. Therefore the testing must be random in order to pick up as many inconsistencies as possible. Random until the day of the fight at any-time should be implemented. There should be the treat of an inspection at any-time. In this way the fighters should know that they could be tested at any time. They may or may not be tested but at least they know that they are open to be exposed if caught. There is no reason under the sun Manny should have any difficulty with complying if he is clean as he say he is. Random all the way to fight night or no fight. We only want fair champions.
JUST CONFIRMATION OF THE FIGHT PLZ
Next excuse would be to open up Manny arms to see if they’re human muscle not some hydraulic powered unobtainium alloys
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@george use the breath IN breath OUT technique. It will relieve stress. Do not worry you can come up of something good to defend your idol floyd. LOL
@black sheep I like your RAP. Hit it bro!!
To Floyd Sr.
I can’t understand a thing you say
But brain damage can make you that way
Tell your son to put up or shut up
We know he won’t because he’s afraid to get f*&^@ed up
You said yourself you don’t want him to fight PAC
So why are you on here still talking smack?
To all FLOYDIEs!!!
READ THIS OUT LOUD….BOK BOK BOK BOKOK (2X)
That’s your idol.
All right now, this is getting too weird. 18 days was good enough for Mosley but 14 days is not good enough for Pac? Pacquiao should be proud that an American dude,(an african-american to be exact) is so scared of him that he wants a blood test up to the day of the fight. What is Floyd going to demand if Pac agrees to it? A blood test within rounds? HEHEHE !! SOUNDS LIKE SOMEBODY IS TOO SCARED!
Floyd fans are so desperate they haven’t anything intelligent to say, their emotion is affecting their judgement. They are not looking forward for this megafight they just want Manny to disappear which is really sad, indeed
Pacquiao already agreed to random blood testing?
How about A-side meth testin?? hehehehe
Floyd and all of his fans are either stupid or hypocrite!!! Floyd/shane fight blood tested at 18 days before the fight and after the fight but they dont accept mannys 14 days!! BS!! Now you all know this blood test was just a fluke fabricated by floydie!! And to all the FLOMOS dont stop thinking how to defend your idol floydie “king of duckers”!!!! LOL
You people said Manny is scared or he does not want to compromise and the fight will never happen. Reluctantly, he has now compromised and agreed to the 14 day window to show he is not scared and now you biased Poultry Boy Fans, still do not want the fight. Are you the ones who are scared? If your man is so good that you already have given us a blow by blow account of how the fight will go, then why not tell his Sissiness to fight?
Do you really believe Manny is scared to lose a fight or to be ko-ed? He does not have a perfect record but he has no fear of anyone. He keeps moving up to face bigger, stronger, tougher guys. He fights with reckless abandon. Poultry Boy fights like he is scared to get hit. By their syles alone who is the one who is not worried about losing.
Manny came up to meet Kentucky Fraud so why would he be scared to meet him? Who is the one who put in the OSDT clause? Everything points to Floyd being scared. His dad said he does not like him facing southies. Come on people, in a court case this is enough evidnce to convict. The worse Floyd could probably do is make Manny look bad and inflict some cuts. Manny however could bust his face up or ko him. Manny is the underdog and if he loses it is no big deal. If KFC loses, he loses legacy. That is why he does not want this fight. His people have done everything to sabotage the fight. Why? It is obvious isn’t it?
MAYWEATHER HAD TOLD PACQUIAO ONES AGAIN TO ALL PACTARDS THAT THERE WERE GOING TO BE NO CUTOFF DAYS FOR FUTURE NEGOTIATIONS, HE IS DOING WHAT HE SAID HE WAS
Bottom line if Mayweather doesn’t sign the 14 day cutoff this is a joke. Even if Pacquiao agreed to the 14 day last time, he probably would have added something else for him to do. Just get it signed!
WINNER PICKING
MANNY IS THE ONE WITH THE EXCUSES WHY HE DOES NOT TAKE THE TEST, FLOYD HAS NO EXCUSES HE SAID TAKE THE DAM TEST AND WE GOT A FIGHT, MANNY IS WINING LIKE A CHIC AND SAYING HE IS SCARED OF NEEDLES AND THAT MAKES HIM FEEL WEAK, THINK BEFORE U WRITE PACTARD
hahahaha floyd is the favorite son, his going to pick pacquiao apart and most boxers that box favored floyd
@ george
pleeeasssee. dream on. pacquaio will win this fight.
Mayweather fans are just plain Stup%D!
how can you worship someone who keeps on finding another excuse. Aren’t you fools getting the clue? Your boy is a pus.
pacquiao aint going to beat floyd tho
Dave, you’re still around. What happens with your prediction of Clottey beating Pacquiao? Would you quit writing if Pacquiao beats Floyd? Take the challenge. What do you have to lose?
If an athlet avoid blood test, and make to many excuse, only stupid and no brain will believe him and if you believe him you are one of them, capiz.
I like boxing,and i praise and honor good boxer, but i dont worship false GOD or false HERO, DO YOU GET THAT?
pacquiao says that he is willing to take blood testing as long as its not on the day of the fight. So! it its not on the day of the fight why? 14 days cut-off.Random testing means any time and dont play idiot.
stop hiding and whistling dixie lilfloyd, you wanted to play for blood remember. CONGRESSMAN PAC will be your Huckleberry’! now that he has agreed to your olympic bloodtesting terms. manup and make the fight happen the whole world want to see. you feel lucky lilpunk?
Kevin Iole af Yahoo sport wrote this and I quote, “Mayweather gave blood and urine on March 22, April 1, April 13 and then May 1 after the fight. He gave urine only on April 3, April 6, April 21 and April 24. Mosley gave blood and urine on March 23, March 31, April 12 and then May 1 after the fight. He gave urine only on March 29, April 7, April 20 and April 26. The news of the date of the final pre-fight blood draw – 18 days before the fight, in Mayweather”. And most of you accusing Pacquiao, what a joke!
mrRomero says:
May 21, 2010 at 2:58 pm
I think by now people should accept what Pacquia’s going to do for the rest of his stay in boxing and that is…..
…Fight opponents like Clottey
…Drained boxers like Oscar
…Beaten boxers like Cotto
…Overated chumps like diaz.
You forgot one more thing….
….Have Mayweather run and make excuses so he doesnt have to fight.
this is the fight we all wanna see,but the biggest farce i have ever seen,they agree then disagree,im a big fight fan and respect both fighters and want to see them get it on but im also getting fed up of both parties demands, just fight cause you are the two best out there or shut up and move on so us fans can
Mr. Dave Lahr is, apparently, an avid supporter and fan of floyd May. For him to claim that floyd is the money cow in boxing is erroneous. The fans of Delahoya, Marquez, and Mosely were his audience. That is where he made the money and he will make a bigger money with manny because Pacman’s audience will be added. To prove my point, let floyd fight an unknown fighter like clottey and see if he can come up with half of the attendance that the pacman had with clottey. So, please, Dave be one-sided in your column. As a writer, be fair.
Mayweather is ducking Paquiao and Dave Lahr is Mayweathers apologist.
you guys are most likely the same with mayweather. talking, talking and talking… please use your mind and open your eyes! convince your idol to fight with pacman. dont be scared like your idol.
ooooppppss! mrRomero, are you clean?
This match if far from happening, its lik3 2 child chasing each other! And too many drug expert or think they know a lot about steroids! And some saying that both fighters should be tested all da way to fight night and after the fight! Wow! I’d like to know exactly what kind of drug are u people talking about? Is it some kinda wonder drug or is not from earth? Com,on people if u all wanta see a good fight and see both fighter at their full sthrenght then test all da way to fight is not a good idea. You all don’t wants see tired fighters punching each other? In my opinion 3 days is enough time for both fighters to recover.
luvboxing,
I think it goes for the contract when it’s signed. They won’t fully disclose the semantics of the contract, which would help egos on both sides. Mayweather said that before the Mosley fight, and Pacquiao is just saying what he’s willing to do. Actual contract stipulations won’t be discussed. I think there’s a gag order.
if the pacman agrees to all floyd’s demands, floyd will come up w/ another one; if the pacman agrees to all floyd’s demands, floyd will come up w/ another one; if the pacman agrees to all floyd’s demands, floyd will come up w/ another one; if the pacman agrees to all floyd’s demands, floyd will come up w/ another one; if the pacman agrees to all floyd’s demands, floyd will come up w/ another one .. repeat 250 million times & then repeat again
what changed Floyd’s mind after insisting for a 14 days cut-off period of PED testing, now that manny accepted his demand? I wonder if this is another way of his dodging and avoiding or opponent- selecting techniques he is well known off. By the way, will he be also tested for Xylocane, a pain killer drug that he is suspected of injecting on his wrist before his fights?
everybody keeps saying how long it takes and doesnt take for a steroid or hgh to work or not b detected how do u guys kno r u or have u taking all the stuff out there its new ped’s created every day thats prolly a million dollar industry and if the regular gnc vitamins and shakes guarantee u to c results in 7 days y cant ped’s so until its a proven fact by a real dr whose job is to study these things proves the windows and margin stop sayin how long it take to work or flush them its clear as day if ur not on them take the test
Well, so much for the negotiations being private. Now Arum, Manny & Mayweather have all made public comments. This sucks.
…And watch all the Pac fans come out screamin how their man agreed to be tested this time…knowing full well that he didn’t agree to anything that was going to make the fight happen! He shot his mouth off saying something he knew wasn’t going to get approved, just to look like the good guy. If you want to fight the best, take the random tests.
@Ordphi, sorry to tell you this but as long as Mayweather is on top and has fans that love him as well as hate him, and will pay to see him fight, he makes the rules.
He who has the gold or skills, makes the rules.
If we want to see this fight, Pacquiao will have to give a quarters worth of blood. Thats all…enough blood to cover the face of a quarter. Pacquiao will lose more than that after just 2 punches from Mayweather.
If 95lb gymnists can do it unaffected, so can Pacquiao!!!
F### Mayweather he does not run boxing. Everyone seems to forget they test imediatly after the bout. Mayweather is just look for an excuse to get out of the fight like always. Drug testing is the job of the athletic comission not Mayweather.
What changed his mind you ask ?? $$$$
There must NOT be a cutoff date. The USADA may not exercise their right to test up to the day of the fight, but just knowing that they might, serves as a deterrent. This is a greater tool than we know. If we took this stance with EVERY fight, I believe drug use will be removed from the sport of boxing almost completely.
I don’t say COMPLETELY because there will always be those that will continue to try to cheat and beat the system.
What changed Arum’s mind??? He contacted the media literally everyday for months to vent about how unreasonable it was to want any blood testing. As recently as April 30 Arum still insisted he would only led Pac fight if the drug tests were the minimum required by the commission. So, Arum is admitting he was unreasonable during the negotations with Mayweather earlier. So Arum admits he was unreasonable, but now wants everyone to believe he is being reasonable now, after literally half a year of insisting his new stance was totally unreasonable!!! How could anyone doubt the sincerity of Daddy Arum?
SME, neither Mayweather nor Mosley said that the USADA people interrupted their training. And Mosley actually came out and said they always showed up during working hours. Random testing is random testing. Pacqauio has a problem with the randomness of the tests and is still requiring a window where there’s no threat of testing. That’s not random testing. And no matter how much people cry duck, these are the stipulations. Pac can comply and fight, or not comply and beat up another Top Rank tomato can while Mayweather takes another superfight with Williams or Martinez.
There’s no question right after the first talks fell out, public opinion was divided between Pacquiao and Mayweather.
After Mosley agreed to Mayweather’s random drug testing demands, public opinion then swayed in favor of Mayweather’s stance.
Now that Pacquiao has acquiesced to the 14-day cutoff, if Mayweather comes back and says he wants no cutoff period, public opinion will now sway to Pac’s side.
I’m one of those people who actually sided with Floyd after the drug testing debacle the first time around. But if Floyd insists that there be no cutoff, I think it’ll make him look like he doesn’t want to make the fight and is constantly putting a moving target in front of Pacquiao.
Master Cheef,
For anyone here that is athletic and works out knows that there is nothing on this planet that you can take for 10 days and have exponential improvement on performance, aside from steroids, which can be caught w/urine. If there is some miracle drug that takes only 10 days for me to turn into superman, and flushes out in 2 days, please tell me! I’ll take it right now.
all boxers shud take random tests at any time it shud be mandatory dont let them cheat us out of r money some r clean and some rnt we need to get the dirty fighters out of boxing for good i for one wud be heart broken if a sports man i looked up to for bein gr8 was found out to be takin peds so here here dave lahr for ur article and for mayweather for stickin to ur guns…
How stupid a nuthugger fan do you have to be to claim that it was ok to stop testing 3 weeks before the fight for Fairweather and Grandpa, but when it’s Pacquiao he has to be ready to be blood taken an hour before the fight ? That’s an alltime new level of ultimate nuthuggery. If it’s good enough for the Mayweather clan, than it has to be good enough for Pacquiao.
The real issue is that the Mayweathers have so close ties to Tygard and the USADA, that Pacquiao can take it for granted he will be tested daily at 3 o’clock in the night, while Mayweather is, of course by chance, tested once in the whole time, last 4 weeks before fight night. And this is the problem if they don’t find a dead line that guarantees a hassle-free period of concentration.
EPO can be undetectable as soon as 2 days after use. All these dudes keep saying, “but he’s willing to take a test right after the fight.” If he uses it for weeks while training and then just quits 1 or 2 days before the fight, then he will pass the test with flying colors while having cheated the system.
And before anyone throws urine tests in my face, please understand those things are rediculously easy to get around. Trust me, I know.
Judge, this isn’t a new stance by Mayweather because he said that no cutoff would be accepted in any future negotiations immediately after the first negotiations fell apart. So at this point, Pac coming out saying he’ll agree to 14 days is pointless.
and for the record anyone who thinks maywaether is on some crusade to clean up boxing please! If you believe that then you really are not very bright are ya !
ANYONE WHO IS SUPPORTING FLOYD’S NEW “UPTO THE FIGHT DAY” BLOOD TESTING INSTEAD OF THE PRVIOUS 14 DAY LIMIT IS OBVIOUSLY MORE INTERESTED IN PROMOTING FLOYDS EGO THAN ACTAULLY WANTING THE FIGHT TO HAPPEN.
SO NOW THAT MANNY AGREES TO THE 14 DAY CUT-OOF PERIOD FLOYDS RUNS AND HIDES BEHIND A ‘UPTO THE FIGHT BLOOD TEST’. MANNY SWALLOWS HIS PRIDE AND AGREES TO 14 DAYS, HE IS NOT GOING TO AGREE TO ANOTHER PERIOD.
that was meant to read moronic writers!
yo mumu
u must b stupid and ignorant. for not knowing shyt bout performance enhancer. u do know they can wash em out in les then 24 hours right?. u prob think ppl take steroids when theyr in a fight wich makes em stronger. not really. they take performance enhancer when they train. learn ur shyt son.
so y did they think that 14 days wasnt reasonable when they backed out of the fight last time?.
i thought Manny agreed to testing right after the fight… meaning if he sheats he’ll get caught regardless… once again – stupid, biased and groundless article !!!
u guys keep forgeting that random means random. whenever they wan test u they will test u.
Arum thinks 14 days of no testing is reasonable. Now that is what you call breaking news.
Mayweather certainly is looking for a way out of this fight, Manny will be way to strong over 12 rounds with his agression and fantastic workrate and speed.
Mayweather knows that manny has his number along with freddie roach (best trainer in boxing), all i can say manny is take whatever mayweather throws at you and make the fight happen and show the boxing world that you are the special fighter we all know you are. You wil be remembered as a great great fighter from the Phillipines.