Haye gives Audley Harrison a lot of advice and some hope
April 9th, 2010
By William Mackay: WBA heavyweight champion David Haye (24-1, 22 KO’s) gave Audley Harrison a bit of hope recently in saying in an article at Sky Sports, “I like Audley. I think he’s got a lot of ability and a lot of potential but for some reason something’s not clicking. Hopefully, he’s got that figured out now, and hopefully he can knock Michael Sprott out, (and then Alexander Dimitrenko), and he could be my next contender. And he can be knocking on my door with everyone wanting me to fight Audley Harrison. But before that he’s got to beat two guys.”
Haye says “Everything I’ve prophesied so far I’ve put into practice and achieved. I said I’d be the cruiserweight world champion and I become that, I said I’d become the unified champion and I did that, I said I’d be the heavyweight champion and I did that.” Haye only partially unified the cruiserweight titles. He captured the WBA, WBC and WBO cruiserweight titles, but not the IBF title. And he had talked about beating the Klitschko brothers before moving up in weight. As I pointed out, Haye hasn’t done that. He beat Nikolay Valuev, Bonin, Barrett and John Ruiz. Those aren’t the Klitschko brothers.
Haye continues “I think I’ve achieved everything I said. And Audley said when he won the Olympics that he’d be a British champion in five fights. I don’t think he’s even won the British title to this day, and this is his first major title fight, and it’s a vacant title against Michael Sprott, a guy who knocked him the spark out in three rounds.” There’s no question that Harrison has struggled in his career, losing to guys like Sprott, Dominick Guinn, Martin Rogan and Danny Williams. Harrison has lacked the intensity in his fights for some reason.
In the Prizefighter tournament, Harrison finally found the fire that he’s been missing during his career. However, those were three round fights against less than top tier opposition. His opponents were overmatched and all Harrison was show some aggression and the fight was his own talent alone. It’s hard to say how good Harrison would be if he fought with the same kind of fire he did in the Prizefighter tourney. With his size and power, he’d be a problem for many of the top heavyweights, including Haye.
“I think he [Harrison] should focus more on his own career and not worry about me so much,” Haye says. “He’s lost a lot of fights to guys he shouldn’t have lost to.” That’s true. Harrison probably should be unbeaten at this point if he fought with a lot of energy in his fights. But maybe Harrison has learned his lesson and is a smarter fighter at 38. It sometimes takes fighters awhile to get their career turned around. Harrison might be one of those kind of guys.
What seems kind of weird about Haye’s advice to Harrison is that he seems to be coming from up high, as if he’s got it all figured out and that he’s succeeded in accomplishing a lot. Let’s be real, Haye beat the weakest of the heavyweight champions and beat a 38-year-old Ruiz, who probably had no business being ranked as high as he was. I could understand Haye lecturing Harrison if Haye beaten the Klitschkos, or some of the best heavyweights in the division like Odlanier Solis and Alexander Povetkin but he hasn’t done that.
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@bilbo, like I said mate dont get upset just cos the brits started boxing, yes the americans have HAD some great champs at heavyweight, I loved them all as I am a fan of boxing! lol yr post to clearly shows you just dont get boxing
bilbo: stating that haye has won 4 world titles isn’t being a fanboy (or having “David Haye`s D&%! in your mouth” as you so retardedly put it). you know why it’s not being a fanboy? cos it’s true. he has won 4 world titles. it’s probably more biased to say that 4 world titles mean nothing. how many world titles have you won? if it is as easy as you’re making out you must have at least one? right?
your job…as a boxer…is to earn money & win titles. in that order. & haye’s done both.
btw no-one anywhere is saying haye is the greatest of all time because of what he’s achieved. no-one can even say he’s the best hw until he beats at least one klitschko. but all you losers saying “he’s done nothing” are wrong. once again…in case you missed it…4 world titles. that’s not bad, right? oh…apparently it is…cos some dumba** on the internet says so.
if you’re that full of hate it’s probably cos you’ve got a sad empty life that didn’t work out quite how you wanted. but at least you still have being angry & slagging people off on the internet. yay for you. i bet your parents are so proud. if only they had a world title for being a douche. you’d definitely be a contender.
@Punk
We already have a much better version of David Haye, his name is Floyd Mayweather and although he is 10 times more gifted than David Haye, more of a trash talker and has never lost I can`t stand that fool either, I don`t deny his accomplishments because unlike David Haye, Mayweather has beat real competition but just because he is american I don`t have to like the guy unlike the majority of british that only like the fighter because of his nationality and not how he is as a fighter, sorry but we are not as closed minded in the states. Keep your David Haye, I rather have no champion than that guy.
@stu
3 world titles in the most pathetic division in history, cruiserweight and a paper title he won form Andre the Giant. WHat time does the parade start in England and how many hours a day do you spend with David Haye`s D&%! in your mouth? Obviously this isn`t about me and my many accomplishments it`s about the most overhyped boxer in heavyweight history, David Haye who`s claim to fame is beating Andre the Giant and Grandpa Ruiz. Wow! Shall we induct him to the Hall of Fame tonight or tomorrow because damn, I don`t think he can top those amazing fights!
@Neiltoosweet
Why don`t you list all the British champs that have existed in the past 100 years, I bet you only need one hand to count the very few and you have 1 guy that still has not done anything of significance and you want to act as if you own the division. This really is no contest, Britain has so few champs in any boxing division in the history of boxing its rather pathetic. I`m not denying the US has no great heavyweights at the moment but we have contenders and champs in just about every division and overall we have owned the heavyweight division so if you want to have a parade for David Haye beating Grandpa Ruiz it`s rather sad. I`m not saying not to like the guy but HE HASN^T DONE ANYTHING yet to deserve praise from anyone.
@bilbo hahahha come on boy dont get so upset just cos its our game, we started it, if you can be bothered to look at history, but I doubt nyou can if you cant see that right now you got no heavyweights, but hey you can cheer on any otHER COUNTRY IF YOU LIKE LOL
Sup said:
“When Haye does something of significance I will listen”
FOUR WORLD TITLES!!!
what you done? won any world titles? no? so why should anyone listen to you?
Arreola, Peter and Chambers all had there shot and all came up short. Difference is Haye is not a fat, overweight and out of condition stationary target, to be jabbed at all night. At least he’s exciting, athletic, fast and powerful for a HW, maybe a little controversial at times but he has breathed life into a somewhat boring HW division, that’s why everyone is talking about him. Hayes like Marmite you either love him or hate him, but as fans I feel we need to embrace him, as lets face it a fight against either brother will be a far more exciting event and Hayes certainly an altogether different prospect than those they have both faced recently. Who will win? , I’ll make my prediction when the time comes, but people love him or hate him Hayes good for the HW Division.
@ Peter:
even if the other idiots dont understand it, I think your way to explain that someone is “on average” a better fighter is pretty good!
To win 8 out of 10 fights would mean that you win a fight with a chance of 80%. The chance of losing or to get a draw is 20 % which states that there is a chance to get e.g. a lucky punch even if your are the better fighter. Pretty good way to think and to show that skills pay out in the long run.
@ the damned idiots that didn’t get the math/statistics behind and then tell Peter “study sience” seem to be total ignorant!
One can discuss your estimation of skills and the outcome of klits vs old champs but the math is good.
By the way: I think Tyson would really lose 9 out of 10 fights vs klits. And 6 out of 10 for Lewis is not so unrealistic if you have really watched the fight Lewis Vitali. And one could argue that Ali had the best speed and the best tactic but he really was not the greatest puncher. the Klits are really phyically stronger. So why not? Even if Ali would lose 8 out of 10 fights he would still be by far the best of his time. it just matters by how much you dominate your peers. It is not necessary to dominate the giants in the future!!
@ Bilbo
You would love it if Haye was a Yank, admit it…a fast, heavy handed, athlectic boxer that has charisma and can trash talk in his sleep, as opposed to an overweight, lumbering monster with no style or personality, which is what the USA produces nowadays.
@ Bilbo
When compare the boxing histories of the UK and the USA? Everybody agrees that this heavyweight division is in awful condition. I have never said that Haye is great or will be remembered in a few years, but for now he has given everybody a reminder of how exciting and entertaining boxing can be. Who bothered to watch when Eddie Chambers got knocked out in Europe? It wasnt even screened on PPV. Why do you insist on insulting David Haye like he doesnt deserve to be there? He uses trash talk but then again so do most fighters. His skill is such that everybody is still talking about him. Also, explain to me how the USA, with its great boxing history, continually produces fighters who look like they have been training out of a Burger King?
@Hoshke
You have 1 guy that had a title handed to him and you want to compare that to US boxers? Please don`t make me laugh so hard I might crack a rib. Typical argument from someone that barely ever has athletes at the top, they get 1 chump a paper title and act like they are the Kings of the world. You really want to compare US boxing to British boxing over the past 100 years, I think we both know there is ABSOLUTELY NO COMPARISON. Take it for what it is, Haye is a paper champ with a very poor body of work up to this point, he will be Audley Harrison if he doesn`t fight and beat both K brothers and even then nobody will remember him in 5 years, and you can take that to the bank.
When would anyone consider Solis one of the best in the division? He reminds me very much of Audley Harrison himself – great amateur pedigree but has fought nobody of any worth in the pros. The same applies to Povetkin – apart from the great Eddie Chambers, who else has he fought to make Americans think that he could beat Haye.
Despite what all you Americans think, writers included, David Haye has won a world title, more than can be said for the current USA crop, and has brought excitement and gossip to a division full of fat lumbering fighters (Chris Arreola). Look back at the great fighters of the past, and all without exception look more athletic than any of the guys who are in contention across the atlantic. I’m not claiming the greatness of Haye but he has got the game, attributes and attitude to dominate, and demonstrates a willingness to take on all comers.
@Peter
It`s all pure speculation and theory and this is boxing where anything can happen, it`s not math where you can apply numbers as if every time the equation will give the same result. Go study science and not boxing
When Haye does something of significance I will listen, until then it`s just trash talk. He beat Andre the Giant and a grandfather and he acts like he is bigger than Ali. It`s not about hating it`s just that the guy is so full of himself and he has done NOTHING to deserve the exhaltations he heaps upon himself much less the attitude he stuffs down everyones throat. To me he sounds like Mayweather without ANY of the accolades, at least Mayweather has beat some serious competition and maybe has at least a right to talk, Haye does not, he has done absolutely nothing to warrant his attitude of Greatness.
Peter:
Brilliant. Sound theory there mate. I particuarly like how you have calculated how many times out of 10 they would lose. You really have put some serious thought into it. Here is a sugestion though. Get out more. Muppett.
I’ve just read most of these comments are 90% of them are the most rubbish I have ever read!! Haye has done what he has had to do. You can only beat what is put in front of you. Peter from Argentina what have you been smoking!!? (Give me some please!!) Yes the K brothers are a number of classes above what Haye has faced and yes he has hurdled over the likes of Peter, Solis, Povetkin and the like to win a title but that is boxing nowadays. Khan got knocked out in seconds and in 3 fights is a world champion. Kevin Mitchell is unbeaten and is just now getting his shot now against a livewire opponent.
Haye well may end up getting sparked by one of the Klitchkos, hell he may get sparked by someone before he gets the chance, but damn give the guy some credit! He beat recognized champion in the Cruiserweight divison and has had four fights in the Heavyweight division and won the WBA title, all be it in one of the most boring fights I have seen. He then dominates Ruiz in a way that only David Tua has bettered and you say he doesn’t deserve the attention! He is a charasmatic, entertaining, heavyweight – something the world has been waiting for since the Klitchkos took over.
lol hahahaHAHAHA LEWIS was just starting to get his bombs home and takeing over against Vitali! and Lewis said so himself! so you cant say what Lewis said in one thing but ignore the other stuff he said cos it suits , lol!
haye has boxed who he had to to get intgo the position he is in now! n no one can deny the position he is in, Ie everyone talking about him, a world champion, and the klitchkos now want to take the fight! thats exactly where he wanted to be! and he has done it! cruiser unified champ, beat the best then stepped up to compete at heavy, against the heavys he needed to box to have cards to play with, thank god real fans can apreciate boxing and dont get into the, my country is best rubish!
haye v a klitchko will be great for boxing n 50/50 BOXING MATCH imho
Oh and Peter i did enjoy. Klitchkos would definatly beat Tyson and Ali. Quality. Could not agree less.
All the best prospects in the division have already been beaten by one Klitchko or another, and the fights were not even close.
Everybody claims the division to be a complete bore, most of them are fat, slow and unfit which just makes it even more unbarable to watch.
Now we have a fit, fast, heavyhanded prospect, hes just a prospect as far as beating a Klitchko is and you are all hating on him? This is madness.
He provides more entertainment in a round than a Klitchko or Peter or Arreola manages in a full fight. He doesnt trash talk any less than somebody like Mayweather or Hopkins, he has atleast so far lived up to his word too.
Yet your all moaning, maybe he should just quit so you people can be happy moaning at the fat boring boxers in their fat boring fights.
Ohhhhhh its just become clear, your all just a bunch of old women. Your guna complain no matter what. Maybe you should put yor laptops down and get some knitting done.
Or are the haters just hating the Haye fans who are convinced he can and will beat the brothers? That is a little more understandable. Im a Haye fan but i dont really think hed beat Vitali and even though he has the power to KO Vladimir it would be very very tough for him.
to be fair I think Haye is allowed to speak from up high about harrison simply because Haye has achieved far more in his career than harrison ever has or will. I dont hate audley harrison but the guy is an excuse maker and he always has been, its one thing having talent but you also need heart and desire. Its been well documented that audley is not the most dedicated trainer and thus hes been badly exposed in some of his fights. There seems to be a strange backlash towards David Hayes success, its quite annoying that an exciting fighter who delivers on his word is given this unfair criticism. Again I make the point that some people actually know very little about the sport of boxing which is why articles like these are so grossly wide of the mark and completely ill informed. There are far too many “boxing fans” who seem to think that they have a valuable opinion to offer, when in fact the best think to do would be to stay quiet until you can actually formulate an intelligent view point.
oh…when you ONLY win 4 world titles at two weights then you can criticise. i’m not a huge fan of haye but i would have thought FOUR WORLD TITLES was quite good. but no….a bunch of guys on the internet who think they’re well clever say it’s not impressive. so there.
what the hell is wrong with people? just relax & ENJOY watching the sport. stop slagging off everyone & belittling their achievements. it doesn’t make you look clever…it makes you look like retarded fan-boys.
So Peter average fighters like Brewster and Sanders beat Wlad up bad, even Sam Peter had him trouble. Yet u come to the conlusion that:
Lewis would lose 6-7 out of 10 matches.
Ali would lose 8 out of 10 matches.
Tyson would lose 9-10 out of 10 fights.
I’ve heard some utter rubbish on this site but u really take up a notch.
What on god’s earth have u been smoking!!
Yes, the Klitschkos show how to perfectly dominate a fight. The difference to all the rest of the “heavyweight market” is that they are too smart. This pure domination!
I am from Argentina and I know well that the following opinion will polarize a lot and even more in an USA based forum:
The Klitschkos are with their optimized fighting style the best of all times.
- Lewis knew he would lose any rematch, so he retired. Lewis would lose 6-7 out of 10 matches.
- Ali even in his best time would lose because he didn’t have the physics to keep up with the Klitschkos. Ali would lose 8 out of 10 matches.
- Tyson is simply too small. In his best times Tyson would ne knocked out. He simply can’t land his devastation punches. Look the Lewis fight and the Klitschkos are even taller. Tyson would lose 9-10 out of 10 fights.
- All other stars of the past were either too short, did not have the phyisics/power or were not smart enough in fighting (Foreman, Sugar Ray, Frazier…).
Enjoy!
@ Sir: so true
All of the most promissing talents in the past like Peter and Arreola (who would have been with the best of their generation and are very good boxer in my eyes) got back to earth when been stopped by the Klitschkos.
The same will happen to Haye, too. And afterwards all Haye “cheerleader” will say: Haye is not as fast as we thought before, he was not able to hit Klitschko and just stood in front of him like a punching ball. The fight will look boring and one sided, too. But why?
The Klitschkos just have brought their fighting style to perfection by using their height advantage and just moving their upper part of the body fast. They don’t need to run a lot in order to avoid beeing hitten. The point is: they don’t look fast but in reality they are very fast and have brought their defence to perfection. Based on this defence they can keed their hands down and can always keep track of their smaller opponent in order to counter or punch very effectively without vasting to much energy. Their punching power will almost ever bring the fight to an end by the way of knockout. Any Haye fight will show the same pattern. Haye is simply too small and physically inferior. And please stop then to accuse the Klitschkos for fighting boring just because they fight smart. it would be silly to take more risk if you can win without risk. And the Klitschkos are no kind of running chicken like dirrell. They almost ever offer a solid KO.
Cheers!
The point is: Haye does not deserve the attention ge gets because his record does not look good at all: it is not good enough to win vs lvl 2 or 3 heavyweights and it is not enough to get out of cruiserweight as a champion cause cruiserweigth is the most unimportant devision in boxing at all. Haye just attracted attention and got his title shot vs Valuev for beeing a blowhard!!! That is unfair to other boxer who can offer a much better record (performance in boxing) than Haye such as Arreola, Peter or Chambers. People who are open minded and unbiased see through this misfit. All others who are “cheerleading” Haye are biased and just hype Haye up. Their behavior is based on hope and not on a proofed performance: Haye simply misses wins over good heavyweights in his short fight record. That’s why I say: he does not deserve to fight the Klitschkos. They are the undisputed champions in heavyweight and have proven it with wins over the best available boxer in heavyweight the past years. And their fights might be boring but just because they offer a new dimension in boxing and just ouclass all the rest.
Well guys, listen to someone who knows boxing at best: Lennox Lewis. He is a landsman of Haye and knows both Klitschkos very well.
And what does he say? – Haye would lose badly to them (ringside magazine). And Lewis does know why: he has been very very lucky to win his own fight to Vitali by a medical stoppage before losing to Vitali by the way of knock out or by points. The very next thing he did was to retire, and he never came back and never will do so because he knows well that both Klitschkos would batter him in a refight. He did a good job in saving his reputation by quitting fast and I think he can best evaluate the parties involved (Haye vs Wlad or Vitali). That’s why he knows that Haye does not have the skills yet to face the Klitschkos. He still needs to improve a lot and gain experience in other heavyweigt fights.
Over and Out.
below comment, i agree, haye would do really well with the like of Manny steward in his corner
On a slight tangent: does anyone agree that Haye should look to expand his team, perhaps in the form of a more experienced coach? Adam Booth is undoubtedly a good manager and trusted confidant but lacks the pedigree for training a World Heavyweight Champion. Haye’s defence is often too much reliant on his natural agility rather than technique, and his decision making in the Ruiz fight was questionable – if he’d shown some more restraint he could have ko’d Ruiz a lot earlier. Freddie Roach has shown an interest in Haye before…perhaps some collaboration if he were to fight the Klitschkos??
Why is Davis even acknowledging this guy
Why are boxing fans so bitter about Harrison (shiz… in general)? On youtube this one guy said he thinks Harrison should just go die. Like damn, the guy may not have lived up to your expectations (pft…) but he hasn’t lived up to his own either, imagine how he feels because of that.
Heh, of course Haye would want to fight Audley, Harrison is the very definition of ‘choke’ and ‘bust.’
All stems from when haye bashed up harrison in an unarranged sparring session, when haye was a cruiser, Im sure you must know this MACKAY??? You are a writter after all?
why do you speak such rubish , you are a writer so you know the facts surely?
haye fought bonin as a tester before stepping back down to criser to unify titles, he chased the klitchkos n I saw vwlad tell him face to face that he needs to fight more heavys first, so after he then destroyed barrat, they wanted the fight but at stupid stupid terms, so haye then won the WBA and defended it!, very very good for only 4 boxing matches!!!!
now haye has some cards to play with, so expext him to play them too!
shame on you, newbies to the sport would expect you to be talking sense and likely beleive what yr saying!
‘Solis & Povetkin – Best HW’s in the division’ – god help us then what a boring division!!!