Bert Sugar picks Mosley to beat Mayweather
April 30th, 2010
By Dan Ambrose: Writer Bert Sugar thinks that five-time world champion Shane Mosley has what it takes to beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. tomorrow night at the MGM Grand, in Las Vegas. While most people seem to think that Mayweather will win the fight, Sugar thinks that Mosley’s reach and hand speed will be a big factor in him winning the fight. In article at Reuters, Sugar says “Mayweather has never met anybody as fast as Mosley. Even at 38 (years old) and 90 percent of what he was, that’s still fast. He’s big and bigger.”
Those shots wouldn’t have landed against a younger Mayweather. Sugar thinks that Mosley’s left hand will be the key to him beating Mayweather, not his right hand. The reason he feels this way is because Sugar is remembering how effective Oscar De La Hoya was in the first six rounds in his fight with Mayweather back in 2007. De La Hoya jabbed Mayweather continuously in the first six rounds, piling up a small lead.
However, for some reason De La Hoya decided to brawl with Mayweather in the second half of the fight and didn’t do nearly as well at that part of the game. Mayweather then came on and won enough rounds in the second half of the fight to earn a 12 round split decision. Sugar thinks that Mosley will be able to do the same thing. I’m not so sure about that, though. Mosley has never been a fighter that throws a lot of jabs in his fights, and it’s hard to imagine that he’ll all of a sudden start in this fight.
Mosley is more into throwing combinations then pecking away at his opponents with a jab. I don’t think Sugar sees Mosley for the kind of fighter he is. He’s not a pure boxer and he won’t be comfortable sitting back and jabbing Mayweather all night long, even though it could very well be effective if Mosley were to employ that game plan tomorrow night. Oddly enough, Sugar thinks that Mayweather will be the rustier fighter of the two rather than Mosley. Mayweather just fought in September against Marquez, whereas Mosley hasn’t fought since January 2009.
Again, I think Sugar is wrong about this as well. If anyone is going to be rusty, it’s probably going to be Mosley. Not fighting for nearly a year and half has got to be hard on a fighter who is 38. I know Mayweather hasn’t been all that active in the past three years, but he’s still young at 33.
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Bert Sugar needs to get his biased s together, he was wrong about mayweather vs. mosley..and wrong about Shanes (23 1/2 inches) reach being greater than Floyd’s (26 inches).
Mike,
Mosley is 38 years old man, of course he’ll slow down. Mayweather’s a lot younger, to say he didn’t slow down a bit is just stating the obvious, he’s still pretty young…………When Floyd turns 38 he’ll slow down too, it’s called aging, the one thing every single person on this planet has in common…….
L.LCool P broke it down very well indeed!!!
@Brazconj101 says:
May 1, 2010 at 7:25 am
HEY WHAT HAPPENED TO THE “TRASH TALK” FROM MAYWEATHER AT THE WEIGH-IN ?? HE DIDN’T SAY A DAMN THING TO MOSLEY WHEN HE WAS IN HIS FACE TALKING TRASH AND NEXT THING YOH KNOW HERE COMES ELLERBE TO STOP MOSLEY !!!! WHATS WRONG FELLAS ? CAT GOT YOUR TOUNGE NOW FLOYD? THIS AINT 24/7 NOW BRUTHA !!!! ITS TIME TO FIGHT……. I THINK MAY GAINED A WHOLE NEW PERSPECTIVE ON THINGS. HAHAHAHAHA
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lol.. people just try to find a way to talk negative about someone or say someone is scared of this and that.. You are very ignorant and don’t have a since of what Floyd was doing. All you see is Floyd talking trash and things he is a loud mouth. But, do you look at that Floyd has made this fight an attraction by being the Villian. All he wanted to do was hype the fight to get the viewers interested and he has done that and he and Shane are going to reap the benefits. Floyd hasn’t been talking as much as he was in the beginning because he already has the people interest and the fight is going to do well . So, just because he doesn’t get into a heated Arguemnt the night before they fight doesn’t mean he is scared. It just means the man knows when he has to be a trash talker and when its time to get Focused and now he is focused and ready for the fight. What is trash talking going to do the night before a fight most people who are going to purchase the fight have already done so and those who were going to pay for tickets have done so as well. So his work is done and now he is ready to box. The guy is a brilliant business man.
ID SAY WHEN ZAB JUDAH FOUGHT FLOYD HE WAS FASTER THAN MOSLEY
That’s why Freddie, the great matchmaker that he is, wants the fight sooner than later: the fight with clottey was very interesting and confirmed that had the fight been with pbf, manny’s strengh and stamina, his work output, woulda hurt, decisioned or knocked out pbf.
Pbf wasn’t ready in March to do this fight…their team was alarmed when Pacman accepted a March date, thinking that it was too soon to recover and train, with a broken hand and all, after the Cotto war in mid November.
Bert is wrong on this one, perhaps inherently bias for Mosley given shared moniker…and advancing age.
Speaking of which, this, age, will be the prime determinant, no matter how exceptional you are as an athlete, early thirties yes, but late thirties is a bit too late to maintain skills, reflexes and strenght, let alone improve on those parameters. Even Pacman achieved such in his late twenties and not without cynics impugning exogenous enhancement.
Pbf will decision Mosley, in another boring fight, with the result frustratingly familiar, with Mosley pining for what could have been had the fight been staged earlier in their career only to realize that, for Pbf, for all his moral torpitude, the genius of his contrivance still obtains: Mosley is right for him now, not three years ago…as Pacman will be right for him after this, and perhaps another fight, but not now (you gotta let the Pacman’s whirlwind of hurt and devastation exhaust itself over the likes of Cotto, Clottey, and perhaps another hard core pugilists before it’s all good for the Money man).
What I saw at the weigh in, was the wanna be thug Mouthweather look shook. He wasn’t talking smack at all in Mosley’s face. What made him change from the smack he was slinging on 24/7, then when confronted by Mosley, he b!@##$ up! Ellerbe has to do the talking for him. Mayweather knows he is going to get checked by Mosley. You only see that type of stuff when a wanna be sees the real deal.
punching speed I meant!
I like Bert Sugar but find myself disagreeing with him more than I agree with him.If Mosley was 10% slower than he was a few years ago then he would be washed up! (10% is a HUGE decrease in punching power!From being fast to being average!)
Also Mayweather has NOT slowed even a little!Sure he got hit by Marquez,(A world class fighter who gave Manny EVERYTHING he could handle!)but that was due to not having fought in over two years.A little rust can come quite quickly but also leaves quite quickly!
The funny thing is these boxing “exsperts” are like people who hang at the bar and feel drunk even though they have not had a drink!
Get my drift!
you guys think knows boxing if may. is good what you think how come he didn’t knockingout jmm if you are a great boxing analys i bet you if mosley fight jmm he got knockout by smm
Stop this!!! In a few hours, the fight will start!!!
Good Luck to Mayweather and Mosley!!!
gotta agree with bert here.
mosley is by far the best opponent mayweather has ever faced since judah, and i think mosley is hell of a lot better than judah.
mosley may not be the favorite but he has a damn good chance of pulling this off, lets not forget delahoya lost to mayweather by just 1 point and mosley brings a lot more to the table than delahoya. i think mosley will pull this off.
HEY WHAT HAPPENED TO THE “TRASH TALK” FROM MAYWEATHER AT THE WEIGH-IN ?? HE DIDN’T SAY A DAMN THING TO MOSLEY WHEN HE WAS IN HIS FACE TALKING TRASH AND NEXT THING YOH KNOW HERE COMES ELLERBE TO STOP MOSLEY !!!! WHATS WRONG FELLAS ? CAT GOT YOUR TOUNGE NOW FLOYD? THIS AINT 24/7 NOW BRUTHA !!!! ITS TIME TO FIGHT……. I THINK MAY GAINED A WHOLE NEW PERSPECTIVE ON THINGS. HAHAHAHAHA
i think bert is doing what alot are doing and kind voting with their heart.. they are biased in there opinions.. i remember seeing bert sugar on espn last september saying marquez was supiorier to mayweather and going to out box floyd !! bert said marquez gave pac fits and would beat mayweather..i dont think mayweather would make all those comments about being better than ali and stuff then loose to shane..aint gonna happen..
Y’all will see Shane age before your eyes. And that jab? You’ll see what kind of leather he will eat between those jabs.
Bert is the man. He’s been in the game for a long long time. You have to dig your trenches before attacking an icon. I’ve seen the HBO video of his thoughts. He thinks, and I do as well, that Mosley has all the tools at his disposal to beat Mayweather. Now it’s the use of those tools that matter. Personally I think PBF comes out w/a UD, but if you think that Mosley is going to be some chump lightweight being pumped up to welter, you have another thing coming.
Anyone that knows boxing knows that Bert Sugar is a Mayweather hater.
Bert Sugar is right. I agree with him. Floy never met any body fast as like as Shane Mosley before. In addition Floy need a lost before he retire…
Bert is cool but his time has passed. When was the last time Bert pick Floyd to win a fight? He pick Oscar, hatton, and even gatti to beat Floyd….Lol..he gets paid to hype the fights and does a lousy job at it.
I mean say Mosley is bigger and tested against big guys, but don’t mention speed as Floyd is one of the fasted hands to ever laced them gloves.
people like bert believe floyd’s gonna be faceing the old shane,look margarito made shane look great i will go on his fight with mayorga yes he got the spectacular k.o but for most of that fight he looked an old fighter and against cotto he was easily outbowed.if you stand in front of shane then he’ll give you an ass whuppin,but floyd won’t do that and his hand speed and movement will be the decieing factor.
I believe that stamina will play a huge factor tonight for both men
This is my vision and prediction. If Mayweather refuses to exchange punches with Mosley in a more aggressive approach, he can’t be knockout neither can he win by an impressive victory. On the other hand, once he traded with cross fight from first round to end of the bout, the emerge winner is MOSLEY EITHER KO, TKO OR UNANIMOUS DECISION.THE MOST LIKELYHOOD FOR MAYWEATHER TO WIN IS DECISION, BUT NEVER A KNOCKOUT IF HIS STYLE OF FIGHTING REMAINS HIT AND RUN. IN OTHER WORDS, IF HE WINS, IT WOULD NOT LOOK SUPERB AND SPECTACULAR.
JACK FLORES
BOXING ANALYST
This fight is going to be different from what Mayweather is use too. Shane Mosley will dominate Floyd early and once he senses Floyd is really NO threat to him, he will force Mayweather into fighting and that when Mosley is at his best! Mayweather will not be able to stay in there and BANG with Mosley. Mosley’s speed will pose a big problem for Mayweather. This fight will end up stopped in the later rounds because of too much damage to Floyd Mayweather. May 1st will be May’s First Loss!!!
It’s really hard to dispute anything a boxing historian like Bert sugas says, but on the other hand I’ve watched fights in which the “expert” commentators are announcing, and the fight they are describing is totally different than the fight I am watching. Wether your or boxing historian, an expert commentator, or just a plain old boxing junkie none of us are immune to being a little biased towards a fighter we may favor. One thing Bert said that I totally disagree with is Shane being able to control Floyd with his jab. What jab? Shanes jab is mediocre at best, and he only uses it to set up his right hand power punches. It’s more like a pawing type of jab. But if that’s one of the things that nazeem has worked on with Shane, then maybe that could be a factor, but I doubt it.
To everyone.No excuses right?No matter what happens the best man wins Right? Am I hoping for too much here? They didnt just become #2 and #3 for no reason right?Somehow I have the feeling that 24 hours from now,some of you will think that your love or hate for a certain fighter and your own opinion is more important than the ideal,THE BEST MAN WINS! If so…You are wrong.
no heart?. the way i see it is by him only stepping in the ring. not for this fight. but for his debute fight erases all this no heart talk. hes a boxer for cryin out loud.
mosly is NOT a pure boxer. mosly is a puncher. he does not know how to box. hence his losses to 2 BOXERS. winky n forrest. u sayin moslys a boxer is like saying floyds a brawler.
and one more thing u guys forgot. shane aint gon look the same as his last fight. his last fight he had a guy comin straight at him and standin infront of hi. all he had to do was counter efectivly. in this fight shanes gon b moving forward goin after a guy who moves slips n slides. completly 2 diff styles of fights this guy has to do. it ain gon look the same as the last one
u guys jus dun get it. dela hoya didnt decide to jus stop using his jab. he couldnbt use it. because mayweather adjusted to that fight and started landing straight right all day in dela hoyas face. go watch the fight again. thats the reason he stoped throwin his jab. cuz everytime he was bout to throw it he either ate a straight right or a leapin left hook. chek it
this is funny the writer seems upset at sugar who probably forgot more about boxing then this guy will ever know lol..for one shane use’s an exellent bodyjab to set up his combos, there are diff ways to use a jab and its been working for shane for years and considering how long he been fighting there and the type of comp he has face there where only 2 people to beat him convincingly and there size had alot to do with that, and as far as rust is concered diff fighters age differantly at 38 his well preseved body needed a lil brake with less than 24 hours to go im here to tell u that floyd will be knocked out floyd will land some shots and get his fan base rilled up but in the end he will lose
Sugar is the same guy that picked Marquez over Mayweather, coreect? Yeah, go figure.
Brilliant pick of Bert Sugar.
It will be so boring fight but I don’t want to spend my money for PPV and I’ll watch on the replay.
I agree….Floyd will give away a few early rounds…..the key to the fight is Shane’s jab…..Jack got into this “power boxing kick”…..that’s what cost him against Cotto….he backed Cotto up from round 5 on but he didn’t pump the jab. If he pumps the jab he will be just fine because Floyd doesn’t want to take any chances. Don’t look for a brawl or a rumble because Floyd already respects Shane’s power….BELIEVE THAT!!!