Would Mosley still lose to Cotto if he fought him today?
By Jim Dower: Three years ago, Shane Mosley lost a controversial 12 round unanimous decision to then unbeaten Miguel Cotto in November 2007. Many boxing fans felt that Mosley did more than enough to get the win, especially with the way he appeared to take over the fight in the last four rounds of the fight. Cotto, who still hadn’t been beaten by Antonio Margarito, fought remarkably well for much of the fight. However, by the 8th round, Cotto looked gassed out and was on the run from Mosley, playing keep away during rounds 9 through 12.
Mosley, 38, came back after a 12th round TKO win over Ricardo Mayorga in September 2009 to stop Cotto conqueror Margarito in the 9th round in January 2009. Mosley is now set to fight unbeaten Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 1st at the MGM Grand, in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Given how Cotto and Mosley both look in their last three fights, who do you think would win if they were to fight at this point in time. I can’t help thinking that Mosley would be too much for Cotto at this point in his career and could end up taking the Puerto Rican fighter out with his aggressiveness and constant pressure. Margarito and Pacquiao may have made the blue print in how to beat Cotto.
Cotto seemed to crumble with the high pace that both Margarito and Pacquiao set out for him in their fights, and Mosley, a very young 38, is capable of fighting at a high pace as well without wearing down and losing steam as the rounds progress.
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Cotto beat Mosely pure and simple. It was close but it wasnt controversial. By the the way most boxing analyzts and trainers etc thought Cotto did enough to beat Clottey. You have to many people on here making up their own facts. Most people thought Cotto beat both Mosely and Clottey.
Cotto has not been the same since the beating from Margaritto. IMO Shane would stop Cotto within 9 rounds if they fought again.
The first fight was close. I think if Nazeem had been in Shane’s corner that night it would have made a difference. Rematch? I would watch.
@ Rico Mike, I didn’t see your post until after I sent mine… I agree with you 100%!!
@ Jake04123456, You can’t clearly have won a fight if half the people thought you lost! As far as Margarito is concerned, did you see him cheating in the Cotto fight? Stop looking for excuses? Paul Williams fought and beat Margarito, and he landed against Paul Williams. So he didn’t have the plaster against him, but he definitely had them against Cotto? He got beat, nobody proved anything!
@ Wazo, What in the hell are you talking about? The fight with Cotto/Mosley was the beginning of him trying just to survive at the end of fights. He fought a good fight against Clottey, but the Mosley, Margarito and Pacman fights he was litterally running to survive after the 8th round. Even the biggest Cotto fans will agree he would be lunchmeat for any top welterweight right now…
Cotto clearly won that fight. Even Mosley knew it. There was no hint of protest in him. He didn’t even want a rematch when asked by Larry Merchant. Margarito fought Cotto with loaded gloves. Had he got away with it against Mosley, he would have ended up the same as Cotto. As far as fighting Clottey, I think Mosley is going to have a tough time against Clottey as well. That’s why Mosley never fight Clottey.
Cotto clearly won that fight. Even Mosley knew it. There was no hint of protest in him
I’m a fan of both fighters. More so Cotto but with the current facts and all thats happened to both fighters since thier first fight I would have to lean towards Mosely in the re-match. Though I will still be rooting for Cotto but Mosely has the edge this time around under the current circumstances this time around. It is still a fight I would see if it were ever to materialize.
I never believed for a second Cotto won the first fight! I’m glad the editor actually posted some info. on that fight. You can’t run the last 4 rounds of a fight and win and that’s exactly what Cotto did… Mosley would knock Cotto out if they fought again inside of 6!
mosley would lose again. mosley’s style is tailored made for cotto
mosley would win by KO at this point.
Cotto did not beat Mosley “hands down”, as was inappropriately written by somebody, suffering from some sight related illness. The author of this article is indeed correct, from round 9-12, Cotto was back-peddling and looking to just get through the fight. Mosley rocked Cotto a few times, throughout the second half of the fight, landing the same ammount of punches as Cotto (according to Compubox).
I thought that Mosley did enough to get a draw, perhaps even a win (based on aggression), but the judges were swayed by a majority of pro-Cotto fans.
After the fight, Cotto made a brief appearence at the press conference, looking battered and bruised. Mosley, however, didn’t look like he’d gone 12 rounds with a top ranked welterweight, he seemed remarkably fresh.
Those who don’t believe me, go back and re-watch the fight with the sound down (as Top Rank’s commentating is incredibly biased).
As for Mosley fighting Cotto again, what would be the point?…Cotto’s a mere shadow of the fighter he once was!
Cotto has never had the speed that Mosley posseses, in this life or the next!!!
damn well from the looks of it, cotto is done he aint gonna be the same fighter he was when he beat mosley . . . Margarito destroyed the poor guy (probably cheated) and then he was fed to PAC to increase his legacy. . . i gotta say that cotto’s best days are behind him . . . his mind is all messed up from 2 questionable victories. and yes the pAC one is questionable since he has been accuesed ass well and he made cotto come down in weight regardless. . . he wasnt mean to beat PAC and roach and the team made sure he had no chance, so right now mosley would destroy him the way he destroyed margarito
Cotto won the first fight but Mosely would win the rematch due to the fact that he’s a better fighter now. And also if u look at the way cotto’s handspeed has deteriated since the firstfight and how much slower he is now its a significant difference. The key for cotto in the first fight that he matched mosely all the way for handspeed thats gone.
I don’t wanna c tha movie again.., cotto realy won that fight.. But it realy a close fight.. I’ve watch it 3/4 times.. Rather c mosley/PAC or margrto/cotto again… Just give that fooL a payback…
Before a rematch were to happen cotto needs to fight margarito again,and beat him which i know he can.That loss really affected his mind set let him gain his confidence back and the cotto we miss will make a comeback.Cotto has the tools to be the best he just needs to train harder work on more techniques and get a new trainer and achieve the success i know he can achieve.
Hard to say. I think Mosley’s win over Margacheato is given a little too much credit. Margacheato’s head wasn’t in the match, he’d just got caught w/plaster of paris and I’m sure all he could really think about was how f*cked he was going to be after this fight, win or lose. Boxing is a mental sport too, and it’s clear his head wasn’t in the game.
That being said Cotto suffered two devastating losses and has a trainer that’s way too inexperienced in his corner. Conversely, Mosley’s head is on cloud 9 after his recent win, and Nazim is one hell of a trainer. At this present time I’d say Mosley, after Cotto fights and possibly beats Foreman, I may have Cotto’s back again.
BTW, I’m not sure what Cotto/Mosely fight you saw, but Cotto worked him, hands down.
mosley for me!
Cotto is a warrior who has been hit to HARD to many times and he is finshed as an elite fighter and he should retire NOW
Please remember Nazim is in his corner now. He has real trainer
now………
The difference between the Mosley that lost to Cotto and the Mosley that beat Margarito is his trainer Naz. Naz brought Mosley closer to the style that he had when he was an undefeated lightweight. Mosley, as he bulked up for higher weight divisions, moved away from using footwork, speed and defense. Naz brought most of this back (cannot get it all back due to age).
cotto would beat him on any given night
I think both fighters ran out of gas for the last three rounds. They just could not keep up the frantic pace that was set in the beginning of the fight. Plus both fighters took alot of punishment. Mosely had a chance to finish Cotto but could not muster enough energy to put him away. I still believe Mosely did enough to win or at least a draw. If they faught today I think Mosely would win. I think it would be good for Cotto to take a year off from boxing. He is still young and I believe he will do great things in boxing.
cotto all the way. It would be a close fight, but cotto would win again. Mosley only defeated margacheater, because margacheater is nothing without plastic on his globes.
There’s always the possibility. Mosley was younger when he fought Mayorga and he really didn’t look impressive. Mayorga pressured him, throwing him off his game. Margarito on the other hand was just too slow and really didn’t do any pressuring. Cotto is better than Mayorga and will continue to jab all night. I think he still can beat Mosley because Mosley hasn’t fought in over a year. After facing Pacquiao, I think Cotto will be very weary of Mosley’s speed and power.
damm ..dont believe it…. someone been saying he had insider info ,he started it when floyd was taking a long time to agree to fight mosley.and the two came to a agreement.
he said that mosley going to take a dive,in exchange for having ownership ,a part of gbp.dont think that was possible then as mosley has strong pride, but today news article. mosley when talking to floyd said gbp is his company,and now oscar just pick mosley to win over floyd by a knock out,damm. oscar always wrong always.and could he be loading the boat ,and mosley going to take a dive? or I for one hope oscar finally right in picking a fighter.
Styles make fights. Cotto lost to Pacquiao, Pacquiao would lose to Mosley, Mosley would lose again to Cotto, Mayweather would beat Mosley but lose to Pacquiao who would lose to Mosley.
Cotto won in my eyes the first time, although I do not know how he would fare a second time around. Cotto fought going back yes from the 9th round on, but he was hitting & countering mosley with clean effective punches. You can fight going backwards & still win, Mayweather has mastered the art of that. Cotto won plain and simple, mosley had no beef with it at the end of the fight & praised cotto afterwards!!!
Yes, Margarito made the blue print on how to beat Cotto…and others. Load up your gloves and watch them fall.
Cotto won the first fight. Had a better boxing night. Mosley looked great against Margarito, but awful against Mayorga. Many thought he was done when fighting Mayorga. Cotto and Mosley both have a similar style, great defense and power punches. Mosley had an advantage going to Margo’s fight: Cotto’s fight for study and identify Margo’s weaknesses and no illegal stuff. Cotto has not been the same since, but I believe people understimate his power. If they fought today, it would still be a close fight, but I would not put my money on Mosley… My thought might change if he beats Mayweather.
no chance,mosley won the first time.