Will Pacquiao continue to fight more Top Rank fighters after Clottey?
March 12th, 2010
By Chris Williams: In case no one has noticed, Manny Pacquiao will have faced two Top Rank fighters in his last two fights when he takes on Joshua Clottey on Saturday night. And while Pacquiao’s trainer Freddie Roach has been flapping his gums 24/7 about wanting Pacquiao to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr., a non-Top Rank fighter, next, it’s not looking like Pacquiao will ever fight Mayweather in this life time judging from the comments that Roach has been making about not wanting his fighter to have to submit to giving blood tests in order to fight Mayweather.
I have no problem with Pacquiao facing a Top Rank fighter if that’s the best fighter that’s available and there are no other alternatives, but I don’t like the idea of Pacquiao fighting them if there’s someone better out there for Manny to fight. Margarito was a great fighter, but I don’t know that I’d like to see Pacquiao fight him, even though it would be a fight that would help out Top Rank.
I just want to see Pacquiao fight the best fighter that the boxing public would like to see him against, and I don’t think that Margarito, Foreman or Valero are the right guys at this time. I think Valero will be good in the future, but not when you have Mayweather and Mosley available for him to fight. But I doubt think the Pacquiao is going to fight Mayweather, not now, not ever.
The reason is because of the blood testing issue. This means that Pacquiao is probably going to fight one of the other Top Rank fighters that they have available for him and will keep the fight in house. That’s so boring. Pacquiao has very little time left and he needs to fight the best fighter available. I don’t consider Joshua Clottey the best fighter in this case for Saturday night. They could have had Mosley, and they could have chosen Mayweather with some extra pushing of Pacquiao.
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hmmm… maybe when Berto gets over the earthquake and comes back to the ring… he would be a good opponent for Pacquiao. I don’t see Mayweather backing down from his blood testing demands. And I don’t see Pacquiao complying with the testing. And Mosley needs to beat Mayweather twice because of the rematch clause.
One more fight for Pacquiao before he retires to POLITICS.
Joe your caps lock is stuck on mate, the button is over the far left of your keyboard, roughly in the middle.
LITTLE FLOYD HAS 40 FIGHTS AND 0 LOSS WHILE PACQUIAO HAS
55 FIGHTS 50-3-2. WHY NOT WAIT BABY FLOYD MAKE 50 FIGHTS AT LEAST TO SEE IF HE KEEP HIS RECORD W/O LOSS. IF BABY FLOYD
REACH 50 FIGHTS W/O LOSS THEN I MAY BELEIVE THAT HE IS BETTER
THAN THE PACMAN.PACMAN IS A MEGA STAR IN HIS HOME COUNTRY AND
HE HAS CONQUERED THE AMERICAN PUBLIC MORE THAN THE BABY FLOYD.
REMEMBER THAT BABY FLOYD HAS AN AFRICAN HERITAGE AND MUST KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT AND AND WORK MORE PROFESISSIONALY TO
CONQUER THE WORLD LIKE THE PACMAN IS DOING NOW.
Alright, I’m going to give my official prediction. I don’t think Manny will get a KO, I’d put him at a 12 round UD, but f*ck it.
Manny by TKO Round 11.
ok………….I get it, you are just here to give me a hard time……..thats cool…….now I know,
@ Preston
No am just here to give you a hard time. LMOL Going down to the bar
at the hoilday Inn Arligton Texas Then over to the fight. Stop By I will buy you a drink. If not sure i will find you on a blog some place.
za zoo- it seems like you are content to amuse yourself with talking about something other than what is being discussed on the blog……….I dont get it? Are you here to just tell jokes….or give your opinion on the topic???? I am sure that you have the talent to make us all laugh, but discuss the topic at hand and open up yourself to be critique or agreed on with the topic at hand…………………
wow- dude, what is your problem?..
@ Preston
MY bag I forgot this is your blog
@ Preston
HA HA Take a deep breath you will be okay LMOL
jaysmooth -who are people laughing at now?
jaysmooth….HAHAHAHAHA!wow man…tell you what.do an experiment.try explaining to a claustrophobic person (one that is afraid of closed and confined spaces)that changing rooms in garmet stores won’t kill you just because of the confined space…go on, explain to this person that there’s no sense in fearing elevators and small rooms….it’s all phycological with pacquiao…no scientific basis whatsoever…but since boxing is still a mental game inside the ring,mayweathet tried to mess up pacquiao’s head…it messed up yours instead…here’s a fact,pacquiao blamed his loss on his first morales fight on the blood extraction done on him,and that was waaaaaaay before all this hoopla.to understand a person,try to get into his head….basic FBI SOP….i’m not saying i’m 100 percent sure that pacquiao isn’t taking drugs…there’s still this -”innocent until proven guilty”…right?…right.
LMAO@jaysmooth! It’s been part of my argument on Manny the whole time. They diefy the man who uses excuses. He complains about gloves, physicals, and needles, yet, he’s supposed to be this beast of a savage warrior. More like that lion from Oz.
za zoo- do you have ANYTHING of substance to say????? Or ANYTHING relative to what is being discussed???? I am soo sick of you guys parading around on your high horses……..I dont care that you disagree with me on what I say, but spare me all of that other BS……either state your opinion or get the hell out of here.
Of course Manny will continue fighting in the same circles. That way, Uncle Bob, and Freddy can control Manny’s win streak, by putting clunkers in front of him.
pugile italiano says
If he is such a warrior and he has been fighting since he was a little kids to make a living in his homeland. He could slice someone up and have them for breakfast…HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.. I am laughing at you…Here is where it really get tricky for us all.. He is such a beast and warrior…
THEN WHY IS HE AFRAID OF NEEDLES OR HOW COULD A RANDOM BLOOD TEST MAKE THIS HUGE GIANT IN HIS OWN WORLD SO WEAK.
@wilson says:
March 13, 2010 at 10:48 am
jaysmooth…Mayweather/De la Hoya got largest PPV buys because of De la Hoya not because of Mayweather. De la Hoya was the biggest name in boxing when he fought Mayeather. Remember boxing was down after Tyson and it was De la Hoya makes the boxing world exciting. Mayweather was nothing before De la Hoya fight.
Pacquiao got a better PPV buys on his fight compared to Floyd’s last fight.
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Apparently you havent read any of my post. I said Oscar was the cashcow before he retired. Are you serious dude to say Mayweather was nothing before floyd. That is the thought of a very amateur individual. Everyone know that Oscar was the biggest draw in May vs De la Hoya…So, why did Ricky Hatton vs Floyd have more PPV than Ricky vs Pacquiao. or why did Oscar vs Floyd have more PPV than Oscar vs Pacquiao. Pac must no have had any followers since Oscar was the big draw..Why did May vs Marquez almost out sold Pac vs Cotto. These are two boxers who had countries behind them and they narrowly out sold them. thats not include UFC had a PPV on the same night and Mayweather/Marquez out sold them.
I think Floyd would expose manny in the ring but Im not prepared to call either guy a ducker.Ali fought a whole bunch of bums in between mega fights
who dat -one thing more,you may have forgotten that floyd earns in dollars and spends in dollars…pacquiao earns in dollars and spends in pesos…since one dollar is more or less 50 pesos,do the math….who’s the p4p top dog right now?not lil’ floyd…who needs to cement his legacy?not pacquiao…pacquiao even has his own private army,his people adore and idolize him…heck he might end up being the president of his own country…so who needs who again?
@ Preston
One day your a pac fan next day your talking crap.
Your a JOKE.
who dat – tell me specifically what rules did pacquiao change?fighting at catchweights?…what?…even you have to learn to understand the mindset of these asian people…those demands where from roach and arum…americans like yourself.
dayyammmm – pacquiao ducking mayweather?you meant to say he is afraid of mayweather?are you for real?…in the village where pacquiao grew up,fighting is a way of life….they could slice you up and have you for breakfast…the good parts,the limbs, are for lunch and dinner…the police and the miltary are invited….hahahaha…just figuratively speaking,of cousrse….i’m sure you are an american,,,boy,am i so glad that not all americans are like you…in the east,even in this day and age,there is a thing called honor and pride…especially where he grew up.try messing up with these people and you end up in a ditch with a machete buried in your face…cops?don’t exist?justice?…in dirt poor villages like that,they have their own justice system,there is a world out there outside america,…people,cultures,mindsets,traditions,an episode of national geographic will do you good….what i’m trying to explain to you is that there are commisions,there are governing bodies…they set the rules,…rules are not set by the whims of a single boxer alone,sure we all know the rules suck,…you have a constitution,right?will you be changing those laws just becuase one man says so?if flaws exist,they are corrected by the people thru the government,that’s why they are called amednments..those demands of pacquiao were set because of PRECEDENTS…they weren’t just pulled out of their asses…so if i say to you JUMP!…will you be asking me how high?….and i quote again – “sow the seeds of doubt and let it grow and spread nurtured by imbeciles,ignorants and fools,then stand back and watch the chaos created” – macchiavelli….those were tactics of mayweather to mess up pacquiao’s head…they ended up messing your head instead…and alot of people’heads,for that matter…peace from italy.
It’s simple, the fighter pac has fought, he was the bigger star so he could bully them at the negotiating table. But Floyd is a huge star and he could bully Floyd. Matter of fact, the top fighters out there pac cannot bully because they are all huge stars. So Arum will ride his cash cow until the end. But Floyd gonna ask for blood and bigger purse. Shane will ask for blood as well. Pac has changed the rules for all his last four fights, but he doesn’t think he has to give in to anybodys demands. Well that time has officially ended, Floyd put a stop to that.
You are right on target Dayyammm. Arum and Roach know they can’t afford to put Pac in with Mayweather or Mosley; he’d be exposed. He’s a great ‘lil brawler, but against a boxer with movement, speed and defensive capabiility, he’d be outclassed.
He needs guys who stay in front of him and slug it out.
Look, he just became a star with the Oscar fight in 2008. Arum’s gotta keep the hype train rolling for awhile; make some money off him.
Question for the Pac fans….Why does everybody else HAVE to do things except Pac? I keep hearing you guys say that Floyd HAD to agree to the 10 million dollar penalty because he has a “history” of comming into fights overweight…….and Floyd Mayweather HAD to include the blood testing request with Shane or he would have looked like a fool……and Shane Mosely HAD to agree to it because he is an admitted user……why is everyone exept Pac left without choices???? Why didnt Clottey HAVE to agree to a weight penalty clause, even though he has officially missed the welter weight limit several times…..not just once like Floyd…….Why didnt Pac HAVE to include the clause into his fight with Clottey????? Why does Pac not look like a fool, and a fraud for not including the weight penalty clause in his fight with Clottey, whom is a HABITUAL violator, like Floyd would have looked if he didnt include the blood testing in his fight with Shane????? And why did Shane HAVE to agree to the blood test, when you guys are saying that the CURRENT urine testing is sufficient, and that test alone is good enough for Pac??????……….and why are you guys or ANYBODY for that matter is NOT talking about Floyd changing the rules when it come to Mosely and the blood test????
“see that they are both equaly needed to make both thier biggest payday ever” I have to disagree with you on that buddy. It would be a big payday for both fighters true, but see, the difference is Floyd OWNS his own production company, so actually in truth, every fight for Floyd is his biggest payday. Pac has to give huge chunks of his money to Top Rank, Roach, Arum, etc. So if them two were to fight, slip the purse 50/50, at the end of the night after everyone is paid, Floyd will have nearly all of his remaining because when you own your own, you pay yourself. So it would in theory be the bigest payday for both, it would truly be the biggest for pac, but truth be told, every fight is Mayweathers next biggest payday. So Pac actually needs Floyd more. And Floyd played nice the first time negotiating, agreed to everything but Pac was a d!ck. So we now see Floyd saying plain as day, when his fight with Shane outsells pac, he will definetly ask for the bigger purse, which I would have to agree it, because it would show that historically, Floyd is te bigger PPV draw. So keeping score I give it 2-0 Floyd. 1 point for fighting the better fighter in Shane, another point for excellent countering Pac’s rediculous 10million dollar penalty by asking for blood test.
Facts are facts. Mayweather was upfront about the drug testing, and Pac’s camp agreed to it from the very start.
The truth is that Arum went into negotiations with no intentions of making the fight. He simply did it to save face. Like I said – Pacquiao is an invention, a Frankenstein, of marketing and hype. Arum couldn’t have the public see/believe his cashcow was ducking Floyd.
So they went into negotiations with a laundry list of demands, believing that Floyd would balk at one of them.
The problem is Floyd called every one of the bluffs.
50/50 split (even though Floyd has consistently proven to be the bigger PPV draw – the numbers don’t lie) = check.
8pz gloves = check.
$10 million/pound penalty (unheard of in the history of boxing. Yes, the HISTORY of boxing, ever since the first professionals laced up gloves to this very day) = check.
Arum was screwed. He’d painted Pac and himself into a corner.
Panic set in. What happens when you’re put on the spot and you don’t know the answer? You start to stutter, you don’t have your story straight, you start to talk in circles.
Pac was afraid of needles.
Pac was superstitious.
Pac needs a 5 day window.
Pac needs a 30 day window.
Pac needs a 24 day window.
You see the pattern? Nobody had their story straight. They were just throwing out excuses left and right, because the media was hounding them on why they couldn’t take strict drug testing when they’d already said upfront it wouldn’t be a problem. Now the media wanted to know, why the backtracking?
They STILL don’t have their story straight. Pac needed a 24 day window, yet for his fight with Clottey, he gave blood at 19 days. Does that add up? No.
Oh wait, on the Jimmy Kimmel show, Pac came up with a new excuse – Floyd’s bigger than me, so drawing blood will affect me more than it will affect Floyd. Are you kidding me? Just when you think Arum and Pac had run out of stupid excuses, they come back with another even STUPIDER excuse.
Look at those facts and it’s clear: Pacquiao ducked Mayweather.
Pac will be fighting another Top Rank fighter, Golden Boy Productions has already said that Pac would have to take blood test to fight any of their fighters. Thats also the reason he isn’t fighting Marquez again, because Marquez asked for blood testing just like Floyd. So Pac signed on to fight bum Clottey. So if you look at the best fighters out there, they do not belong to Top Rank, which means Pac will be fighting another easy bum like Clottey and his fans will say he great for fighting bums and over the hill dehydrated past their prime fighters. Pac could have fought Floyd or Shane, but he ducked both of them. One day, hopefully, Pac will face a Great African-American fighter. He currently does not have One under his belt, not a one.
i dont realy think manny or floyd are ducking each other i just think it sumfing to do with egos.i think people are wrong when they say manny a ducker,he faught ever top guy up to sfw,then faught wbc at lw,the faught the the ring champ at lww,i think cotto and clottey where the wrong choice of oponents tho,when he could have faught mosley or rematched marquez,but apart from that hes took very big risks expesh fighting dlh,i know alot of people say dlh was shot but 95% of the so called experts thaugh dlh would win.same with mayweather,i dont think hes ducket any1 in his carrear,every time hes moved up in weight hes went straight for the top guy,alot of people say he ducked the top welters,but when he moved up to welter he beat baldoir who was the linear champ aftear beating judah,he then faught judah who was ranked number 2 at ww at the time,so i dont know where people get that floyd and manny are duckers,look at the facts.
Ozzie you are correct all you need is about 100,000 dollars are your set in the Philippines and 100,000 would only last Floyd one week.
Dayyammm no fighter ducks none they are fighter for a reason. I boxed and had close to 100 amatuer bouts and one some say’s your sparring that guy or fighting that guy you just nod your head yes. Now it could be the promoter’s or trainer who duck other fighters. Have you ever seen a fighter who is dropped or the fight is stopped and he ‘s mad even though he’s getting killed. Most fighter’s are like Pitbulls they would fight till death if the fight was allowed to such degree.
Yes, I heard excellent arguments from both sides. Anyway, son like father. Right? If I remember correctly, Mayweather Sr. said, his man (Ricky Hatton) will distroy pacman so as Ricky Hatton, he will distroy pacman. Trash talking don’t work on pacman. He is a tough guy. He came from the bottom in terms of life and he is proud it and I am too. So, what happened after the fight? Mayweather Sr. and Hatton don’t even want to be interviewed becasue of their BIG MOUTH. No face to show to the people. They got no class!
Oscar de la Hoya said something nice to pacman and Miguel Cotto too after the fight. These people are professional and GOT CLASS.
I have watched lots of boxings and I have not seen a person like Mayweather Jr. He loves to talk and trash people or other boxers. Pacman won seven world championship belts in different weights and he is on top of the world. Mayweather Jr. said he is the best. If he is the best, go to the ring and fight pacman. You cannot be the best in the world by words. ACTION MAYWEATHER? AND NOT TRASH TALKING, GROW UP. Those words are only words that can easily be swallowed. However, if you got class, you will never say those things just to get ahead. Oooops…of what?
You know what, seven world titles in different weight class, it is a huge accomplishment. If pacman, did something wrong about drugs, he could been disqualified long time ago. Why? Those boxers that he beat or fought against are not stupid or the world boxing associations. They have the right to demand as Mayweather Jr. but they are smart. Because, all boxing associations, always conduct the test before and after the fight to make sure that no illegal drugs were consumed by both fighters.
In short, Maywaeather jr. is scared of pacman. I hope pacman will not fight Mayweather Jr. He can say whatever he wants to say. Pacman and the Team will just ignore him. Right now in the worldwide, PACMAN IS THE BEST. Seven world titles in different weights against one witght of Mayweather Jr. who can argue with that. Ooooops… sorry… I forgot… Mayweather Jr. is the best… IN WORDS… ONLY…. NOT ON THE RING. Have fun guys, life must go on.
@ dayyymann /you mean floyed right.sounds like floyed.floyed ducked cotto !
It is a shame that Pacquiao’s boxing record appears to be built entirely on PEDs because it would have been a good story. Instead we’ve all been left with the image of a boxer doing everything to avoid being caught using PEDs. How did it come to this?
I can understand Pacquiao’s fans, I understand their pain. Sometimes living in denial is the only way to deal with something like this, after all most of them have spent a good part of their lives supporting someone who may have been using PEDs. But the people I really feel sorry for are the ones prepared to waste the rest of their lives defending Pacquiao when it’s obvious he is hiding something.
It would have been a good story Pacquiao! Rags to riches. But rags to PEDs to riches doesn’t sound right.
Please, the guy already ran for Congress once and got completely crushed in a landslide loss. He didn’t even come close. He tried to be a movie star too, and same thing, his wackman movie or whatever it’s called completely flopped at the box office.
I hear a lot of excuses for why the guy can’t/won’t/shouldn’t/whatever fight Mayweather, and it all adds up to one simple fact: Manny Pacquiao ducked Floyd, just like he ducked Shane, just like he ducked the top guys at 140, just like he continues to duck legitimate threats.
It’s like I said – Manny’s a great fighter but he’s an even greater marketing invention. Careful matchmaking and overzealous hyping of a fighter from a country not really known for producing great fighters = Manny Pacquiao.
There’s a reason Vegas had Mayweather as the favorite when the two were still in negotiations. And Vegas is not in the business of being wrong.
jaysmooth…Mayweather/De la Hoya got largest PPV buys because of De la Hoya not because of Mayweather. De la Hoya was the biggest name in boxing when he fought Mayeather. Remember boxing was down after Tyson and it was De la Hoya makes the boxing world exciting. Mayweather was nothing before De la Hoya fight.
Pacquiao got a better PPV buys on his fight compared to Floyd’s last fight.
If Floyd continues to duck Pacquiao then the Clottey fight might be his last fight. I think this going to be Pacquiao last fight if Pacquiao will KO Clottey because Floyd will be too scared to fight him.
Hey bloopers101 u Kno nothing bout boxing famous words from mayweather! Mayweather is pound 4 pound the best hes 40-0 and til someone beats him hes the best. and let me name some of those rubber dildos 4 u…zab judah, oscar de la Hoya, Ricky Hatton, juan marquez all good fighters b4 the fight but not so good when mayweather beats them but pac is the greatest ever after beating an outta shape hatton and an ova the hill de la hoya and cotto he gets credit 4….jus wait til may 1st mayweather will show y hes the biggest payday to date!! o yea by the pac is on the juice
@Bloopers 101 says:
March 13, 2010 at 8:22 am
After this fight, if he can pull u win on this fight which i think he can, he will fight probably two more elite fighter the he will retire. I was hoping that Mayweather will give in to Pacquiao becuase Mayweather needs Pacquiao to promote his name because he is nothing at the moment, nobody knows him yet! To be the best you should fight the best.
Pacquiao already established his names as one of the greats, where Mayweather is probably at the bottom of the list, I say 24th place overall! What is Mayweather doing at the bottom of the list! well, he fights those rubbery dildo fighters, he took a vacation for a year then he came back from vacation he fight another rubbery dildo fighter. what da!!!! what’s this, I think its a joke to us bros!.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Who has he beaten to be considered great? Please just name one person and i could name a better on that Floyd fought. Because recently, two of Manny fights have been against fighter Floyd be two years ago. Could U just name one boxer for me..
Who is Floyed to make the rules? Floyed need PAC to become one of the altime greatest fighters that has come out of the United States. Pac is already the best fighter the Philipines has ever produced. Think about it who shoes would you rather be in right know PAC or Floyed. PAC is running for Congress and Floyed is running from the IRS! Whos signature gloves would you rather have hangging in your TV room PAC or Floyds, also PAC destroyed the two top fighter Floyed fought (OSCAR, Hatton). pAC can easily ride off out into the Sunsset, but Floyed will be broke again in five years and need to make another come back. The Philipiness will take care of PAC for life. Well maybe Welfare will take care of Floyed in 10 years.
team pacquiao which include bob arum had known before hand that clottey coach/trainer would not make it to the USA for the fight yet they went ahead and make the deal , what a SHAME another HANDICAP fight for pacquiao.just another HAND PICK HANDICAP FIGHT FOR PACQUIAO. check out pacquiao last THREE FIGHTS either you have to drain yourself to make weight or you have to be beaten badley or no fight , PACQUIAO JUST WON’T FIGHT A STRAIGHT UP FIGHT ITS ALWAYS A HANDICAP FIGHT .justcheck his last three fights all hand pick handicap fights.nad now joshua clottey NO COACH FOR THE BIGGEST FIGHT OF HIS CAREER THAT SMELLS LIKE HANDICAP TO ME
@Neiltoosweet ,England says
The last i checked didn’t Oscar fight Manny in 2008. thats just over a year ago and he fough Ricky Hatton last year. Thats two of the same fighters that Floyd fought previously. He even had the luxury of Floyd not being in boxing for almost 2 years and still couldn’t top in PPV in either of those fights. Mayweather came out of retirment and fought Marquez and had 1 million PPV something Manny never did against him. YOu fail to understand that numbers that Floyd is putting up on the PPV charts are unpresidented because he is from the US where there are numerous good American boxers so the US is divided on there favorites. Pacquiao is the only good boxer from the Philipino that anyone knows about. In theory, he should have the better PPV because he has an entire country backing him. But Floyd is the bigger draw..Thats soo funny how things happen..What its to see him loose or win he still sells PPV..Just admit the facts and quit wishing and hoping,
Pac refused to have blood drawn less than 24 days before fighting Mayweather, but there are pictures of him having blood drawn by the Texas Athletic Commission 18 days before the Clottey fight. That blood is not being tested for PEDs. He can have blood drawn 18 days before the Clottey fight, but would not agree to have it drawn 14 days before fighting Mayweather??? I can only reach two conclusions. Either Pac’s people just didn’t want the fight with Mayweathehr or they are trying to hide something that random blood testing might show.
@Neiltoosweet ,England says:
March 13, 2010 at 7:58 am
makes me laugh the amount of people that think that because maweather v mosely is a bigger draw than pac man clottey, it means mayweather is the bigger draw , lmao,
ITS the opponents that will make the difference!
if mayweather was fighting clottey the sales would be smaller, cos everyone wants to see mosely,
mosely is a bigger draw than clottey, whoever they fight,
I take my hat off to mayweather for takeing this fight, I cant wait, n am a mayweather fan as well as pac, but its amazeing what they try to use as proof of who is the bigger draw,
as far as Im concered pac n mayweather need eachother to make that massive history makeing fight so the purse if it ever happens should be 50/50
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For the first part of this post…How can you say its the opponent that makes Mayweathers fight. All of the people that Floyd has fought has also fought other guys. None have made more money fighting anyone else than they did against FLOYD. NOt even OSCAR, who was the cashcow for years.
@Muzza says:
Quit making excuses for a boxer who don’t want you excuses. Instead he took a fight with the best fighter he could fight. He couldn’t get a fight with the “the Paper Champion”..How can you call someone a WW Champion when he want even fight a real WW at a legitimate WW weight. Heck even 145 would be good enough but he ask Mosley to go to 142. He Should have just asked him to fight at 140(light welterweight).. Tell me this how did he become 40-0. Did they just give him 40 victories no he boxed and won..No they may not have been exciting and he didn’t brawl to get them but he still is 40-0. so, for you to say he need to box and stop talking, you just made youself look like an idiot bc thats what he does, HE BOX not BRawl. Enough Said on your childs play garbage..
@ MUzza
What a comment dude. I agree with u.
For Graham can u shut the …. Up u don’t know boxing… If there is no pacquioa, boxing will still be boring because of mayweather… Marry mayweather man…!!!!
Possible opponents for Pacquiao after Clottey: Shane Mosley if he beats Floyd, Yuri Foreman if he beats Cotto and Floyd if he accept Pacs counter offer the first time about blood testing cut off date. 24 days before and after the fight. He rejected floyd demands the first time. He will never change his mind about that. Its principle because he have enough money already. All boxers wanted to make a name for themselves swallowed their pride just to get that. They will accept everything just to get the fight with the big name boxer beacuse if they win,it’s like winning the lottery.
they could be doing this : Draw a pint of blood 1 month before the fight, then re inject it 24 hours before the fight, so that’s 1 pint of blood more, means more oxygen, more stamina.. that’s just a theory?
Is this suspected PEDs user still around? I thought he had retired?
He should do all of us a favour and quit boxing after his next fight. He has turned the sport into a joke. An elite boxer like him should not be running away from a random blood test. We all know the excuse he has given for refusing to take the blood test is laughable. To make things even worse this guy could not do the test for $40 million. Why would Pacquiao walk away from $40 million because of a harmless blood test? That does not make sense.
Unless he was hiding something. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he was using PEDs and trying to hide it.
After this fight, if he can pull u win on this fight which i think he can, he will fight probably two more elite fighter the he will retire. I was hoping that Mayweather will give in to Pacquiao becuase Mayweather needs Pacquiao to promote his name because he is nothing at the moment, nobody knows him yet! To be the best you should fight the best.
Pacquiao already established his names as one of the greats, where Mayweather is probably at the bottom of the list, I say 24th place overall! What is Mayweather doing at the bottom of the list! well, he fights those rubbery dildo fighters, he took a vacation for a year then he came back from vacation he fight another rubbery dildo fighter. what da!!!! what’s this, I think its a joke to us bros!.
neiltosweet- ehhh..mayweather and pac have had 3 common opponents..de la hoya,hatton and marquez evryone of them did much better numbers than when pac fought them so i think its safe to say who is the bigger draw
@neiltosweet-as far as i know its a teaspoon of blood which is y that excuse is bs
if any1′s noticed gayweathers fought 2 gbp fighters in his l;ast 2 fights and is now fighting mosley,, will he ever fight a top rank fighter????
people need to stop bringing up “7 world titles” and all that other bs..titles today in boxing dont mean jack!! they are like a$$holes….too many titles too many champions…its not the title that makes the man !!!
clearly pacquiao will not be fighting any of the other fighters mentioned in this article. He is already mentioning retirement and the only fight out there is mosley or mayweather. A lot will depend on not just the results but the performances in both the upcoming fights. If as expected, both manny and floyd win their fights, it will depend on how they win. If Floyd wants the pacquiao fight to happen he has to be impressive against mosley and probably even KO him, then he can really start calling the shots again. Floyd would rightly point out that he had beaten the better calibre of fighter and that he is the bigger draw (as mayweather mosley will undoubtably get more ppv’s than pacquaio clottey) he would trash talk manny into signing a fight with him and manny would have to accept. If either of the fights are very close we may be also be looking at rematches, especially in the mayweather mosley fight.
Back it up Dan? Or back it out the door.
Talk about clutching at straws! It that all you’ve got? Get a life, man.
Yet again more smoke caused by Mayweather and all his Blood test Please find me an excuse I dont want to fight crap. It starts with him and stops with him I hope he draws blood everyday up to his next fight a fight hes only had to take as hes been backed into a corner and he well knows Shane is 39 and will not of been near a ring in over a year come fight night. Its all sh!t its all crap hype and not warrior like at all. In fact it stinks just like the lions share of Mayweathers carrier full of controversy and lacking in fireworks where it counts in the Boxing ring. All this talk of cheating from a man who cheats!! (2lbs over the weight is f!!king cheating of the purest form!!!) All the pre-fight crap he comes out with intended to gain an advantage Hatton vs Mayweather in the dressing room “oh Joe hes such a dirty fighter on the inside he hits and works the body Joe thats cheating Joe” remember that!!!!! resulting in one of the most one sided displays of joke reffing displays for a long time. Pacman is fighting on a regular basis and getting on with it without the crap and hype and all the action in the ring as it should be. Mayweather is doing it all outside the ring and telling everyone hes the best in the Ring???? And people are actually buying into this show of non Boxing!!?? And bringing his (Mayweathers) name up in connection with Boxing?? Wake up people separate the Boxing from the talking!!. All thats been going on in here the last few months is fantasy Boxing matches involving Mayweather fighting Pacman, Cotto, Mosley, Sugar ray Lenard, the list goes on, and any other Fantasy bout idiots have mentioned. The truth is he has not been fighting anyone and talking a horrible amount of s11t. THIS IS NOT HOW AN APPARENT GREAT SPORTSMAN CONDUCTS BUSINESS. So save the comments about this fraud in the future purely on Boxing performances and not what comes out of his filthy hyped up ignorant A-METH smoking mouth.
@ All those Pac haters
@ Lex_fugitive aka leaks_feathertalk,
Why is it that the people who belittle Pacquiao`s achievements the most just happen to be (like you) Mayweather`s most ardent fans.
Is that just coincidence?
Or is there something deeper lurking there?
Personally I think that Mayweather is the most talented boxer of his generation. Nature seemed to give him everything, from a comfortable, boxing rich backround, to all the necessary physical and mental abilities that a boxer could dream of. The fact that some of his family wealth came from drug dealing does not really come into who Floyd Jr is. It`s just a fact.
Or is it?
Easy come easy go (like most of Floyd`s previous earnings) is a mentality born of doing little for big gains. Ir tends to make the person lazy and to take few risks. This is quite obvious in Floyd.
Some people never had it that easy. Pacquiao, for example, had to fight his own way through life just to be able to earn enough for him to be able to feed his family. I don`t suppose that could possibly make the man somewhat tougher than upper middle class Floyd, could it?
Did you go to school, Pac haters?
Who used to be the bullies in those days? Was it the kids from comfortable backrounds or the poorer tough-nuts? In my school the less well off often had something which the richer kids did not. A different drive. A more basic set of rules. A more live and let die outlook. It`s just he way things are. Neither you nor Floyd can change that.
Is it so hard to understand that a man who has had to fight for every almost crumb he has ever had might be a hard guy to put down (trash talking aside)?
And, come to think of it, your idol Floyd does have two serious defects as a boxer; his left and right hands. Sadly for Floyd nature gave him almost everything except good hands. His brittle little hands just shatter at first contact. So delicAte are they that he has to use DRUGS to be even able to fight. That`s all fine so long as he does not have to venture outside the State of Nevada where Zylocaine is, unlike every other State, legal. This explains why Schafer didn`t even turn up for his rendez vous with Arum to examine the Dallas venue. (25 MILLION dollars extra on the table put up by Jones) (another 25 million dollar question for Floyd fans)
But back to my original question: why do Floyd`s fans constantly try to belittle Manny?
You know as well as I do. Deep inside you you know that if Floyd ever stepped into the ring with Manny, even with stringent drug tests, including drugs like Zylocaine of course, the poor little rich kid just wouldn`t stand a chance against a MAN who has earned his place in boxing and in the hearts of millions of decent people.
Incidently, as this fight will never take place, Floyd haters need not worry: Manny may never get the chance to destroy Floyd, but Floyd will destroy himself anyway.
Thus is the nature of the beast!
@jaysmooth
“You should change your name to 3 Rocks and 1 pipe bc you are really smoking some serious crack. So dump and stupid.”
LOL!!!!!!!!!!
You had me crackin’ up with that line.
@Relentless says:
March 13, 2010 at 12:43 am
Agree with you Gerry. The accomplishments of Pacquiao – winning against first ballot hall of famers Barrera, Marquez, Morales . . and the excitement and drama that he blazed in his last few fights vs Marquez, Dela Hoya, Hatton, Cotto . .
Cross over appeal of Pacquiao is growing by the day . . from the front cover of Time Magazine, to endorsements with Nike, to his singing events in Kimmel Live . . list goes on.
Boxing Writers Association of America (BWAA) – has already conferred him 3 boxing of the year awards and most recently, the “best boxer of the Decade”. Coming from BWAA which is an organization of independent boxing writers and experts that follow the sweet science 24/7 (and they could be fans of Mayweather, Mosley, Cotto, Hopkins) and they voted for Pacquiao (non-american) is truly an “Outstanding” statement!
If this is Pac’s last fight or 2nd to the last . . its best to enjoy, the un-assuming but relentless fistic warrior that is the “PacMan”.
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LOL.. you guys are good..None of the guys you named are in the Hall a Fame. Thy could be considered potential candidates. the last time i checked the one fighter the either Manny or Floyd has fought is in the Hall Of Fame..uhh.. no Manny didn’t fight him..The boxer is Genro Hernandez, he only lost 2 fights in his career 1 to Floyd and 1 to Oscar..You can wishful think all you want but lets just state the facts..
@JosephBTS says:
March 13, 2010 at 1:48 am
Look Manny Pacquiao is the current world welterwieght champion and the best thing that ever happen to boxing this days. You don’t dictate your term to a guy like Pacquiao not even a former undefeated world champion. Manny Pacquiao allows blood testing but not on the day of the fight or near the fight date. Urine test could easily detect drugs in a boxer, every doctors knows this, the state boxing commission knows this and so does the other sports commissions. All of the greatest boxing champions in the past and even now never demanded this kind of strict blood testing. Why all of the sudden this kind of demand. This is like indirectly saying that someone is afraid to fight Manny Pacquiao. Simple as that………………………………………………….
Do you have a television? If so, do you watch it? What was discovered last month. Yes, a rugby player tested post for HGH the first ever. It was discovered by a Blood test not urine. If doctor and commissioners know that urine can detect PEDs then why haven’t they come up with a urine test that has found a HGH user. There is this susposed Nano-Trap urine test that is suppose to detect HGH, if this is accurate then why the heck isn’t it out being used by All Sports. MLB and NFL have invested millions of dollars in trying to help scientist come up with a urine test to detect HGH, but they go nothing. Now, since the blood test detected it last week, the NFL and MLB were going to use blood as the way to detect HGH.. Everyone who deals with any kind of testing know blood is more affective when test for drugs. You can’t flush or mask your blood but you can flush and mask your urine..
A little history, HGH has been undetected in American Sports for over 10 years. These drugs have rid sports of there prestige and greatness. HGH has taunted MLB and the NFL and has left many fans very disappointed and wondering what is going on. Athletes are breaking records that took legends decades to achieve. They are accomplishing things that had been apart of history for decades.
Blood test in Mayweathers terms. Stop twisting things around. Pacquiao agreed to blood testing, not in the way Floyd Mayweather Jr. wants it.
It’s going to be a great fight. I love Pacquiao and Clottey is a well deserve ranked fighter. What I love more about the sport we love is an upset. I hope both fighters gives their very best for all of us to enjoy. There’s nothing like fighters fighting for something bigger than them.
@3 stars and a glove says:
March 13, 2010 at 1:15 am
@steve
most of you don’t get the other side of the story. you only rely on the LOUD side which is Mayweather… its only a mind game. just to analyze it drawing blood from you drains energy. haven’t you tried it? if this is done before fight night FMJ will be happy for that he will face Manny w/ weaker punching power. and you know that it is FMJ’s game to win in points… by the way Manny agreed to do that immediately after the fight but what did FMJ said? he doesn’t agree on it. but results will be the same and even more accurate. try to think on it first.
some people keep on pushing the blood test issue. besides, FMJ got one with Mosley. Excuses… and they keep it against the one being at the top…………………………………………………..
LOL..OH now we you want to complain that Manny would be drain and weak..What do you think he does when he ask a fighter to fight at a Catchweight when everyone else in the division is fighting at 147. yeah, that drains you buddy..
How the heck is a “Planned” Random blood test more accurate. That don’t make any sense, you need to think about what you are saying. If i tell you I am going to come and rob you tomorrow at 10 am , what are you going to do? Yeah, you are going to plan for me coming. If you don’t know then you are going to continue with you everyday way of life and then i show up at you house..Yeah, I caught you off guard and I took all you money..Random means not knowing. Its a shame how you have to break things down for you sooo called boxing fans..
YOu should change your name to 3 Rocks and 1 pipe bc you are really smoking some serious crack. So dump and stupid.
@cente _uban says:
March 13, 2010 at 12:33 am
Forget Mayweather ? My thoughts exactly. I think it best to ignore him.. bypass him. He is nothing but trash, garbage, skunk . He is not a good sport .. a very poor example for upcoming young lads who enter the sport of boxing.
Let him whine and blab-blab and scream that he is the greatest. Who cares. These Mayweathers are nothing but idiots and morons that I wont be surprised if any or all of them will be behind bars soon………………………………..
He is garbage, trash, skunk huh…I think you are subject to your opinion on his attitude and arrogance. But what you can’t be subjective on is he work and his pure boxing skills. So, to say he is a not a good example for up and coming boxers, thats crazy. If you don’t know, you are about to know, that when you are teaching a younger boxer, you don’t show him prefight interviews. You show he how to perform in the ring. You show him how to use proper technique on the defense and offense(Floyd). You don’t tell him to keep you hands up and show him a fighter that constantly drops his hands(Manny)before throwing punches. You can hate him if you want but he is the best example of what a true boxer want to be. Yes, he is arrogant and cocky at times but he is also congradulative in the ring with the fights is over. He always tell you after the fight that it was all for the media..Its in the Game.
To all those who are stupid enough to believe Pac’s excuses that blood tests will weaken him: Phelps was drawn blood in between winning successive gold medals all in the same day. Olympic style drug tests are continously updated to keep pace with sophisticated illegal laboratories which are constantly churning out PEDs which are harder and harder to detect. The most effective method today of detecting these new stealthy PEDs are olympic style drug tests currently adopted by USADA under auspices of WADA or World Anti-Doping Agency. To accuse USADA of being under the influence of Mayweather camp is the height of stupidity.
ha,ha,ha just wait this is insult to the champ ,what else to prove Pacman got seven title and he surpassed old Henry’s A record.
Mayweather Jr. will end up in history BROKE like Tyson and Holyfield……….
Pacquiao will be senator and still rich guy,still no one break his record.
give him 10 years.year 2020,Mayweather will be in welfare system.still called chicken KFC
I see Roach just playing with PBF now. He doesn’t care if PBF never gets a shot at Pacman.Why? easy.
If Mayweather never gets a shot at Pacman, it will only hurt PBF (just as it already has hurt his reputation) but it hasn’t & won’t hurt Pacman. Why?
Because PBF already had a bad reputation due to:
1/ running backwards around the ring most of his career
2/ dodging the best fighters, & fighting the old & slow
3/ not being considered ‘good’ for this sport in a time when the sweet science needs worthy ambassadors, his talk makes him come across a thug, it’s gone against him.
So Roach may think missing a shot at the ‘best fighter for along time’ will eat away at PBF as it is doing to his already loww reputation.
And, as Pacman doesn’t need a fight against PBF, why give in to any of PBF’s demands. The is just no benefit to Pacman.
You gotta love someone who plays the game as well as Roach. He’s laughing while he plays with PBF’s head. I love it!
Nope, he’s only one of the three titleholders in the welterweight division and he’s not even the consensus #1 welterweight – Shane Mosley is.
You remember Shane Mosley? The guy that drove over to the Wild Card gym to ask Roach for a fight with Pacquiao, only to be told that Mosley would need to go on the Ethiopia diet and come down to 142 to get the fight?
Yes, that Shane Mosley. The same Shane Mosley who signed to fight Floyd Mayweather, at the normal welterweight limit of 147. And under the same stricter drug testing regimen that Mayweather asked of Pacquiao.
The same Manny Pacquiao who supplied numerous ridiculous excuses as to why he couldn’t submit himself to the same style of testing that thousands of athletes take very year.
Yes, that Manny Pacquiao who’s fighting Joshua Clottey, a non-titleholder, non P4P contender, who’d already lost to Miguel Cotto, the very fighter that Pacquiao had already beaten at a crippling catchweight. Does that make any sense at all? You beat the WBO titleholder, then go on to fight the guy he’s already beaten?
It’s shameful. These are not the hallmarks of an ATG. These are the actions of a cherrypicking overhyped product of clever marketing.
@dayyammm- You made some excellent points.
Look Manny Pacquiao is the current world welterwieght champion and the best thing that ever happen to boxing this days. You don’t dictate your term to a guy like Pacquiao not even a former undefeated world champion. Manny Pacquiao allows blood testing but not on the day of the fight or near the fight date. Urine test could easily detect drugs in a boxer, every doctors knows this, the state boxing commission knows this and so does the other sports commissions. All of the greatest boxing champions in the past and even now never demanded this kind of strict blood testing. Why all of the sudden this kind of demand. This is like indirectly saying that someone is afraid to fight Manny Pacquiao. Simple as that.
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Pacquiao vs. Mayweather will never happen. Team Pacquiao will never agree to random blood tests for illegal drugs. They’ll make all kinds of excuses. They’ll accuse Mayweather camp of being chicken. They don’t want us to know that they have duped everybody for the past decade especially his stupid fans who are glorifying him. It’s understandable that his millions of fans from a backward country would kiss his feet since they can’t comprehend what PEDs are. It’s unfortunate that there so many from the “advanced” west like some folks in the USA who are so gullible they would like to kiss his ass too.
If a fighter with golden boy wants to fight pac and golden boy cannot secure a fight with top rank, then I ‘d suggest the fighter leave golden boy and join top rank…and stand in line like everybody else
In all likelihood, yes. Arum’s greed and ego know no bounds. It’s not just that he won’t risk losing his cashcow, but he absolutely refuses to lose him to a GBP-promoted/affiliated fighter. Both Oscar and Mayweather cost the old man millions in profits by either leaving his Top Rank group, founding a rival promotions (Golden Boy), or simply staging bigger and better fights than he could produce. Or any combination of the above.
Another commentator made a similar remark – that Arum likes to keep everything in house because he gets to keep all the profits from the promotions as well as take percentages from both fighters since they would be fighting under the Top Rank banner. The loser gets relegated to gatekeeper status, the winner becomes Arum’s new favorite.
Look at Antonio Margarito. The guy used to be Arum’s ace up the sleeve when he needed to lambast Floyd Mayweather. Remember all those shadowy and unproven claims of an $8 million dollar offer? Where are they now? Nowhere. (Not that Margarito did himself any favors by loading his gloves, but that’s a whole ‘nother story). Arum has Pacquiao now, and he’ll ride his new favorite pony until it breaks down. If on the small chance Pacquiao loses tomorrow, look for Joshua Clottey to suddenly become the ‘next big thing’, and Pacquiao to be yesterday’s news.
Look at Miguel Cotto. He also used to have Arum’s favor, and where is he now? Arum didn’t even support him after the Margarito incident, instead choosing to support Antonio. Cotto got fed to Pacquiao as a sacrificial lamb. He isn’t even fighting on PPV anymore. His next fight will be on regular HBO against…yup, another Top Rank fighter, Yuri Foreman.
Don’t get it twisted – Arum only looks after himself and Top Rank. Don’t think for a minute that he didn’t play a pivotal role in the failed negotiations for the Mayweather fight.
@ Steve
What a stupid question. The answer is when man was created, their name was Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.
@steve
most of you don’t get the other side of the story. you only rely on the LOUD side which is Mayweather… its only a mind game. just to analyze it drawing blood from you drains energy. haven’t you tried it? if this is done before fight night FMJ will be happy for that he will face Manny w/ weaker punching power. and you know that it is FMJ’s game to win in points… by the way Manny agreed to do that immediately after the fight but what did FMJ said? he doesn’t agree on it. but results will be the same and even more accurate. try to think on it first.
some people keep on pushing the blood test issue. besides, FMJ got one with Mosley. Excuses… and they keep it against the one being at the top.
I like pacman to this bout and tgen retire that way it’ll be the end of blood testing ordeal. I say enough already. This topic just getting too old. Move on already
THE BLOOD TESTING ISSUE IS BEING SCOFFED AT BY ROACH IS BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW IF FLOYD’S CONCERN IS REALLY TRUE OR IS IT JUST A PLOY TO GET INTO MANNYS HEAD. IF IT’S REALLY TRUE THEN BOTH SIDES HAVE TO COME TO A COMPROMISE, MAYBE FIND A NON INVASIVE APPROACH TO DETECH PEDS LIKE DNA TESTING FROM HAIR OR SALIVA OR 24 HOURS SURVEILANCE, THAT WOULD SATISYF BOTH, FLOYDS CONCERN AND MANNYS FEAR OF TAKING BLOOD CLOSE TO FIGHT
Agree with you Gerry. The accomplishments of Pacquiao – winning against first ballot hall of famers Barrera, Marquez, Morales . . and the excitement and drama that he blazed in his last few fights vs Marquez, Dela Hoya, Hatton, Cotto . .
Cross over appeal of Pacquiao is growing by the day . . from the front cover of Time Magazine, to endorsements with Nike, to his singing events in Kimmel Live . . list goes on.
Boxing Writers Association of America (BWAA) – has already conferred him 3 boxing of the year awards and most recently, the “best boxer of the Decade”. Coming from BWAA which is an organization of independent boxing writers and experts that follow the sweet science 24/7 (and they could be fans of Mayweather, Mosley, Cotto, Hopkins) and they voted for Pacquiao (non-american) is truly an “Outstanding” statement!
If this is Pac’s last fight or 2nd to the last . . its best to enjoy, the un-assuming but relentless fistic warrior that is the “PacMan”.
But i want to ask a question,why is pacman scared to undergo the blood test so far they are both gonna undergo the very same thing,does this means he as a skeleton in is cupboard,if he is not trying to protect something……then let him fight if not he as a lot he as been hiding from the whole world all this while then
Forget Mayweather ? My thoughts exactly. I think it best to ignore him.. bypass him. He is nothing but trash, garbage, skunk . He is not a good sport .. a very poor example for upcoming young lads who enter the sport of boxing.
Let him whine and blab-blab and scream that he is the greatest. Who cares. These Mayweathers are nothing but idiots and morons that I wont be surprised if any or all of them will be behind bars soon.
That right..it’s not the end of the world. Why dwell on the past? If the superfight happens with Mayweather Jr, it will happen. If not, oh well, it’s a boxing fan’s loss. Nothing we can do if one guy wants to be above the commission or the rules. If Mosley or even Mayweather is available AFTER May 1st, then they’ll talk about it. One thing you need to take note is Pacquiao-Clottey fight was already made BEFORE Mosley was made available with Berto withdrawing. Let’s take it one opponent at a time. I know he’s awesome but even Pacquiao can’t take 2 guys at once.
It’s sad that the big fights can’t be made because they are under different promotions. There needs to be some kind of governing body that makes it mandatory for the top fighters in each weight class to fight each other. They also need to either unify or get rid of all these damn belts in each weight class so we know who the actual champion is in each weight class. Both sides are stubborn so I don’t think Pac vs PBF will ever happen. I think Mosley vs Pac has a better chance of taking place if Mosley handles his business come May 1st. Hopefully he KOs PBF into retirement so he won’t try to hold him up to his rematch clause.
I agree. But what can you do. It’s unfortunate but life must go on. No Pacquiao-Mayweather, it’s not the end of the world. Pacquiao is already an accomplished fighter with 7 world titles. If they don’t fight, it’s too bad for Mayweather. His legacy will not be as great as Pacquiao.