USA vs. UK: Battle of the Countries
March 7th, 2010
By Adam Fillingham: The United kingdom. Three world champions. The United States. Ten world champions. Two super powers in the boxing world. This got me thinking this morning. Whilst looking through some of the “box rec” rankings the title of this article got me thinking. Who is better? America or the UK? I myself, am from the United Kingdom but I will not be biased. The same as I do realize that the USA is bigger and has a vaster population than the United kingdom.
How this will work?
Using “box rec”, I will take a look through the top 25 of there rankings for each weight. Looking at each weight class i will observe how many fighters there are from the UK and the USA. After finding how many fighters there are for each weight and in total for all weights, i will work out the population difference between the two countries. Very mathematical…
Now for the results;
Weight USA UK
Heavyweight
5 2
Cruiserweight 3 2
Light Heavyweight 9 2
Super Middleweight
5 3
Middleweight 4 3
Light Middleweight
8 2
Welterweight
6 1
Light Welterweight
9 4
Lightweight 5 2
Super Featherweight
3 1
Featherweight 4 1
Super Bantamweight
0 2
Bantamweight 1 0
Super Flyweight
1 0
Flyweight
0 0
Light Flyweight
1 0
Minimumweight
0 0
TOTAL
64 25
These results may look clear cut in America’s favour but in the top 25 of the ranking system, there are only 2.6 Americans per Brit. That means that for the USA to win they can only have 2.6 times the population of the UK. Lets get Google involved…
After surfing the net for a little I have found that the population of the USA was a large…
304,059,724
Now for the UK. The population for the United Kingdom is…
61,399,118
Unlucky USA. The US population was a massive 4.9 times the size of that of the UK. The UK are the victors for 2010. Will it stay this way till 2011? Would the UK have more top 25 contenders than the US if it had the same population? So many questions, difficult, if not impossible to answer. Lets see if those questions are answered in the future.
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Thats not a fair contest because americans get up the rankings and title shots before uk fighters. For example alexander , dirrel , urango etc. whilst hatton had to wait until nearly 40 fights , mitchell has got his first title shot at 32 fights aswell as others. we have got some outstanding prospects coming through like degale, gavin, billie joe saunders,cleverly, sexton, joe murray , brook , munroe who will probably all get title shots within 1-3 years.
I am currently training an Eskimo who now resides in the Yukitan Peninsula and is doing roadwork in North Carolian, wearing Italian shoes and eats English muffins and Taco’s, he is hard to understand cause he has a Chinese accent.
Mr Chicken, you ever watched rugby? Thats a real mans sport which you disgrace with NASA suits. But to Boxing, what is the point of this article? The facts are wrong, and its a pointless piece, again intended to inflame nationalist, biased and hateful interaction. BOXING! Not a BNP convention.
dave you hit the nail on the coffin with the trainer comment… ive been saying that all along… just look at amir khan before he moved to wildcard gym and now… another example is ricky hatton, imagine what he would be like had he had nazim richardson in his corner or even kevin cunningham… we have certainly got the best trainers period
The fight between Clay and Cooper was a eliminator for Sonny Liston’s title.
Only one man could beat Liston and it would not have been our Enery
we have some good talant in britton but the trainers in america are better. they teatch more advanced skills. if all are best fighter went to the likes of the wildcard gym and others they would be more successfull. but your point about uk vs us will be proved in the next year or so. if our prospects start winning belts then u mite be able to start comparing then regardless of population!
arroyo u talking abt a journeyman lmao… sorry brits dont come close the only thing they had was lennox lewis, othewise there is no brit that can be put in the same sentence as ali, sugar ray robinson, leonard, hagler, hearns, liston, frazier and many othersw
how about australia we got some talent down under
how I yearn for the days of “our ‘enry”, the most beloved British fighter of all time. Remember the left hook that if landed ten seconds earlier would have derailed Cassius
Clay. Never a question as to who was the better fighter but Ill bet hes still rubbing his chin.
im english and even i have to concede americans have the better fighters. But they are bound to be as very few people are interested in boxing over here,you cant even get odds for most fights at highstreet bookies . Americans have more fights on tv and at reasonable times and therefore have a bigger interest. Even our longest reigning current world champion cant get on tv. (btw i agree with carl about most of our champions being nowhere near the best in their divisions)
boxrec . . . what waste of time!!! why not use ring mag? Also if you are looking at keeping a score you have to have a weighted measure how many are 1-5, 6-10 etc per weight class and how do they rank lb for lb. you have to look at quality not only quantity. finally, uk as a boxing super power . . . I think it is in the top 5 but c’mon . . . Obvious bias from the beginning (and no I am not a yank)
Carl Froch, Amir Khan, and David Haye are paper titlests.
Guys like Kelly Pavlik, Mosley, Bradley, and Dawson beat great fighters to earn their titles. Froch won a vacant title, Amir Khan won a vacant title and David Haye bea tthe worst HW in history.
America dominates Britain in boxing. They’ll have a true world class fighter ever decade. Lewis, Calzaghe…err.
America has 5 fighters in the P4P top 10 today. Its not contest really.
The golf ryder cup used to be contested between USA and UK. Until it changed to europe v USA just because the original contest was far to unfair and in favour of the US.
The above article would make more sense for USA and Europe.
Im American, I think the boxing resurgence in Europe is great, I welcome it, alot of strong talent over there.
Best way to do it is get the stats of both counties and find the ration compared to the population!!!
most redundant article that i have ever read.
The whole of GB and Ireland is about the same size as Rhode Island, Americas smallest state, America is massive yet they stil have a tendancy to claim fighters like Pacquiouo and Cotto as theirs.
Dunno if this really works but hopfully there will be two more British champs by 2011, Mitchell and Cleverly!
Technically, America has a larger ‘pool’ to draw talent from (in terms of total population).
Same with other sports, and the olympics, etc.
You can’t compare the 2 in such fashion.
Im British but boxing is an international sport, stupid to say whos the best out of just two countries
Surely there should be weighting on how high they are up the rankings? This method puts Mayweather level with Matthew Hatton.
uk all the way
yes andy. brit fans rule. you dont see americans coming to the uk & selling out hotels and stadiums to support there fighters.
UK does produce a large number of quality fighters for its population size, most importantly it has the best fans in the world
I wish you make a comparison also in boxing in the olympics (US vs UK medal winning).
So if Mitchell beats Katsidis it’s a landslide victory, ha
The Brits rule the ring along with the Mexicans.
haha very interesting