Roach: Pacquiao Would Drop the Lawsuit to fight Floyd Mayweather
March 26th, 2010
By Ryan Dunn: In a recent interview with ESNEWS, Freddie Roach gave some revealing thoughts regarding where Manny Pacquiao wants to go next. He mentions Manny having been interested in fighting Antonio Margarito for some time. “He wants to fight [Antonio] Margarito,” said Roach. “Before Shane [Mosley] beat him, he told me that he wanted him next, after Oscar. So he saw something that maybe Shane saw.”
Evidence of Manny’s desire to fight Floyd seems to be a result of Mayweather having gotten inside Pacquiao’s head. “This is the first time I’ve seen [Manny] make fun of somebody in the gym. The guy’s under his skin a little bit. So he really wants it.”
But there’s still the matter of Floyd’s drug testing demands. To that, Roach had an answer as well. “We’re not going to negotiate with him on drug testing. That’s not going to happen, because he doesn’t run the sport. Again, that issue is gone. Any commission rule we’ll go with. Mayweather’s going to have to deal with that.” So it seems the line has been drawn in the sand. Will this prevent the fight from happening, considering the amount of exposure that will have been given to Mosley and Mayweather undergoing the USADA testing (it will most certainly play an important role in the HBO series 24/7)?
Roach doesn’t think so. He thinks Floyd needs Manny. “If he wants to make the money that he thinks he deserves, he has to fight Pacquiao. I can’t see him going anywhere else.” The cold, hard truth is that this is a two way street. Manny and Floyd can go on making their $10M paydays, give or take, but if they want to see the big dollars, they both are well aware that they need one another.
As to whether or not Roach thinks Mayweather is ducking Pacquiao: “I don’t think he’s ducking us. I think he needed more time to fight Pacquiao. I think he’ll come to the table after Mosley. If he beats Mosley that will be a good win, because he’s a very tough opponent. He’ll feel he’s ready for Pacquiao.” It’s an interesting angle not that heavily talked about. Floyd, in his post-fight interview with Kellerman after his Marquez fight (before the Mosley debacle) admitted he had some ring rust and felt he could do better. It is feasible that Mayweather wanted more time getting back into the game before taking on Pacquiao. It’s a possibility, sure. An explanation? Maybe.
As May 1st draws near, all eyes are going to be on Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosley. This is not a walk in the park for Floyd, and Shane stands to earn the notoriety and respect he feels he never got earlier in his career. But try as you may, that little Filipino just doesn’t seem to want to go away.
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@TheGreatest
“Or maybe you’re talking about the Cotto that allowed Joshua “has no offense” Clottey to land 35% of his total punches and 40% of his power punches. While versus Clottey, Cotto could only land 25% of his total punches. Is this the same competitive Cotto you’re referring too?”
- Yeah, the same one that one that fight on just about everyone’s scorecard. Was the Margarito fight a war for Cotto? Absolutely. But he’s not a washed up fighter, he’s a top welterweight. And for the first half of the fight (before Manny’s speed took over), Cotto was fighting competitively.
“The same Cotto that allowed Judah and Mosley to land 53% and 57% of total power shots, respectively.”
- Yes, and the same one who TKO’d Judah after winning 10 out of 11 rounds. And the same Cotto who beat Mosley on all three judge’s scorecards, and just about everyone else who watched the fight.
What the hell are you talking about anyway? You’re contradicting yourself by claiming Manny has NO CHANCE against Mayweather, but Mosley has a “toss-up” chance. The fact that someone has to go to such lengths to explain to you that Manny is a competitive fighter against ANYONE in his weight range is sad, really.
…ryan
@ Ryan Dunn
When you say Pac beat a competitive Cotto, what FACTS are you going off of?
Well shall we? Let’s talk Facts! The “competitive Cotto” you’re talking about is the same Cotto that allowed Judah and Mosley to land 53% and 57% of total power shots, respectively. Or maybe you’re talking about the Cotto that allowed Joshua “has no offense” Clottey to land 35% of his total punches and 40% of his power punches. While versus Clottey, Cotto could only land 25% of his total punches. Is this the same competitive Cotto you’re referring too?
Don’t get me wrong, Cotto was a strong fighter, but with his inability to avoid punches in addition to fighting the “Loaded Tornado” Margarito, Cotto is a walking punching bag.
When I think of B-hop and Jones, they remind me of my neighbors who live across from eachother, these dudes stay at war battling for something. But both dudes had amazing careers, but its time to take up another trade. Man I don’t know, Shane prob would, but I think Pac definetly has the balls to do it, would be good however.
I will definitely be watching the Hopkins/Jones fight, they both have had really amazing careers and you´re right, they need to hang up the gloves, I´m not sure they can do much more in the sport at this point although I think Hopkins will have a few more fights, his style allows him to fight at such an old age. Mosley vs Paul Williams would be very intriguing and I think it has the most chance of happening, I would be surprised to see Pac or Mayweather take that chance.
It truly is a toss up, that’s what make it so intresting. For the first time really, Floyd could take a loss. But regardless who wins, they both kinda come out on top, it’s not like either man would have got beat by a lesser opponent. It’s never bad to get beat by a equally good hall of fame fighter. So i’m just waiting. I plan to watch B-hop and Jones too lol, nothing like two old guys that need to hang it up with a grudge, and hopefully after this they both hang up the gloves and enjoy being inducted into the hall of fame. I can’t help but to wonder also if Pac, Floyd or Shane will ever step in the ring with Paul Williams and his I don’t know what weight class I want to fight at too tall lanky self.
Shane/Floyd should be a good fight, it will be very competitive and honestly anything can happen in this fight. Floyd will be floyd, counter punching, picking his shots, avoiding exchanges and Shane will be very aggressive because of his hatred of Mayweather. Shane has the speed and power to get to Floyd but Floyd is a master of defense and counter punching. Honestly it´s a toss up and like you say it depends on which Shane shows up but I think he will bring his A game but is he quick enough to get to Floyd early and often enough to win?
Its cool. Clottey loss the little stock he did have, Can’t see anybody wanting to fight him after that. Nobody wants their fighter to fight a guy who is gonna make their boxer look bad, not bad as in a bad fighter, but bad as in a ugly fight. I wouldn’t expect to see Clottey Vs. anybody anytime soon, he pretty much shot himself in the foot. But man I’m looking forward to the Floyd Shane fight. This is bad blood, hard feelings, and bitterness. If the Shane of old shows up to the fight, I don’t expect Floyd to last all that long, cause Shane can be a beast. But he come half gamming, Floyd gonna get the better of him. Either winner has to fight Pac afterwards. If they don’t i’ll prob have to challenge them to a fight myself I would be so mad lol.
True that, they should also pay Clottey less for the fight for basically just showing up and doing nothing else, if they paid these guys on performance and effort Clottey would have gotten some coupons to burger king and that´s about it
Your right, Pac was against a wall. I got bored watching it after the first 3 rounds, so I can only imagine how bored, frustrated and unintrested Pac was in continuing the fight. Clottey should pay everybody who tuned in to watch he was so terrible. Thats why I say Pac did his job, Clottey just made it a terrible fight.
@wow
I thought Pac worked the body pretty good against Clottey or at least tried to but Clottey just had no interest in participating in that fight and Pac did not have the power to shake him out of the clam. I think after realizing that this was Pac vs a wall he kind of lost interest in throwing precise combinations, it gets boring after a few rounds when the other guy refuses to fight, it was really one of the oddest fights I´ve watched in that respect. Imagine hitting a punching bag for 12 rounds, it´s unlikely you are going to be throwing precise combinations after a few rounds, you probably wouldn´t even care, you throw because you have to but there just isn´t any interest.
Rob Pls don’t call me Stewart, I actually like myself unlike him. The strategy to be employed is actually simple. Control, precise punches. Body, head. Seeing that the guy is clammed up, face protected, elbows tucked protecting midsection, only area of opportunity would be rib/sides/kidney/liver. What stood out was Pac did not get around Clottey enough to engage those target areas, he did try, but Clottey moved with him. These are the things that make boxing like a chess match, you anticipate and know what your opponent is going to do, but somehow, someway you have to figure it out and make it happen. This Roach did not adequately train Pac to do. Roach knew Clottey would stand there and absorb punishment, Roach also knew Clottey would just clam up. Roach hoped Clottey would come forward more than he did. Where things went wrong is Roach did not expect Clottey to sidestep and move with Pac to protect his body so well. If Clottey would have allowed Pac to slip and come to his side, Pac would have busted him cleanly in the sides, dropping Clottey hands, exposing Clotteys heat for a powerful shot. But that did not happen. So when everything you anticipate fails, there becomes only one thing to do against a fighter like that…… Punch and punch, and prey you land something cleanly to make an opening somewhere else. Pac did what he had to do to win the fight. Now lets think about it, Floyd defense is better than Clotteys, and while in a defensive posture with an opponent punching, Floyd has the ability to punch back, and hes very accurate with his counter punch. So not only would Pac have the problem of working against Floyd defense, he would also have to contend with leather being place in his face as well. Now, Pac punches hard, but lets not say Floyd punches like a punk either, because most of us talking trash here wouldn’t last too long in the ring with Floyd getting hit by those stingers. All in all, things are very simple, inorder for this fight to happen, the silly law suit has to go, Pac has to agree to blood testing and Floyd has to make it by Shane, who is no easy win. When we look historically at two fighters, one a brutal puncher and one a gifted boxer, history more times than not has been on the side of the boxer. And I always bring it back to Ali, who on countless time proved that a skilled boxer will not only out think, but will out class a guy who attempts to get in the ring and take your head off with hay-makers. Classic match up indeed. But boxing has an obligation to hype up a guy in the fans eyes as being the “one” to take down the guy who has been on top for so long. Many people were ‘hyped’ up to being the next ‘one’ to destroy Ali, but he just kept proving them wrong. So, I go on record to say, Pac is a good fighter, but he doesn’t poses the tools in his shed to beat Floyd in a fight. So, who is your friend wanting to buy the desert beach front property lol?
@Wow
Should we call you Teddy Atlas or Emmanuel Steward because obviously you have worked as a trainer to make the assumptions you make about Pac´s strategy or as you call it, his no strategy (by the way, how much for the beach front property, I know a guy that knows a guy that might be interested, or not).
If you are claiming that he had no strategy what strategy should have Manny employed against the human wall in your humble opinion? could it have gone differently?
Dunn, I missed you earlier questions, but her you go, honestly see…….
1.) Is Pacquiao a harder puncher than Mayweather? Yes, most definetly, so is Shane, but even water dripping slowly over times wears away and down even the biggest stones and boulders on the face of earth.
2.) Has Pacquiao knocked out a fighter while leaning back away from him? yes, thats what make this dude so dangerous, his ability to hit you even when you least expect it from a crazy angle. But Floyd also hit you when you least expect it and even when you looking him square in the face, just his hand speed is too fast.
3.) Do Floyd and Manny have comparable hand speed and accuracy? both guys hand speed is stupid fast, unlike many others. Accuracy, you got to give that to Floyd, thats not an opinion, Floyd has like the greatest hit/connect and no get hit ratio than anybody else.
See, I truly have no problem being honest with myself.
Very nice Ryan.
@JAY
I think you have to consider the bigger picture here. Manny went to the body, and found Clottey’s unusually long forearms able to cover his face and body at the same time. When that became apparent, he committed to a high punch output (head, arm, body, fist clap, you name it) in order to marginalize and essentially eliminate Clottey’s countering chances. There aren’t many boxers in the sport who can deliver that many punches for that many rounds and make that strategy work. Most will tire, slow down and end up on the canvas. Give Pacquiao some credit for choosing a strategy, sticking to it, and winning 12 rounds against a tough, defensive, heavy handed opponent.
…ryan
@WOW
Here we go. Take a deep breath…. and. begin…
“If your punches are ineffective it doesnt matter if you throw a hundred or ten, ineffective is just that, no good”
- What defines an effective punch, only one that knocks you out? What about the jab? Even if it misses? And how does winning all 12 rounds equate to an ineffective punch output? You’re crazy. Pacquiao still landed 34% of his power shots. So see what you want, he came with the perfect plan. He knew Clottey was stronger, so he disabled Clottey’s countering, or at least marginalized the hell out of it.
“You can not deny Pac lacks defense”
- I cannot deny that Pac’s defense is worse than Floyd’s defense. What I CAN deny is that you seem to think Pacquiao’s defense is completely absence, which is very ignorant. He slips punches, throws combinations then steps to the side. He has head and foot movement and can control the ring without getting knocked out by bigger guys. Is his defense as good as Floyd’s? No, I never said it was. But what he lacks in defense he makes up for in speed, and it’s put him at the top of the charts so far. Don’t marginalize it to oblivion is all I ask.
“Pac better bring a lunch because its gonna be a long night, and thats the night Arum cash cow comes to an end.”
- And like I said, unless Mayweather can make Pacquiao respect his jab, it will be a long night for Mayweather. You see, styles make fights, and until we see these two VERY different styles, both with amazing, if not legendary hand speed, you can’t predict it as much as I can. So I have it a close fight, you have it a blow out. At least I’m in the safer territory here. You’re tripping if you think Manny is a walk in the park for Mayweather, not when Castillo gave Mayweather so much trouble, and ODLH stayed competitive far past his own prime. And not when a one-dimensional (truly) Ricky Hatton can last 11 rounds against one of the fastest boxers in the sport. No way no how my friend.
As to your three questions…
1.) Who has the better all around fight game Pac or Floyd?
- Floyd Mayweather
2.) Does Pac lack solid defense?
- Lack? No way José. But Mayweather is much better defensively.
3.) Was Pac able to stop Clottey over hand right or uppercut?
- Yes. 6 times out of 10 according to Compubox.
Now I have three questions for you…
1.) Is Pacquiao a harder puncher than Mayweather?
2.) Has Pacquiao knocked out a fighter while leaning back away from him?
3.) Do Floyd and Manny have comparable hand speed and accuracy?
Your turn to answer them honestly. It will reveal how biased you are toward Mayweather (or against Pacquiao I guess?).
Here’s a fourth question for you:
4.) Do you think Manny and Floyd both have great resumés? Or do they both have padded, deceiving resumés? Or does one have a much better resumé than the other?
Here’s another chance for you to reveal your honesty vs. bias.
…ryan
People continue to complain that Clottey didn’t drop his guard and that’s why Pacquiao couldn’t land on his face; real boxing fans, and experts know that if you land effective punches on the body you will eventually break your opponent down, and his guard will drop. What happend in the Pacquiao vs Clottey fight then? Pacquiao chose to head hunt; Pacquiao is a great fighter, and their is no doubt about that, but his ring intelligence is completly dependent on Freddie Roach while his potential opponent Mayweather is like a fighter with the mind of a great trainer. He’s not ready for Mayweather.
I thought this whole lawsuit was about Pacquiao defending his honor, and the pride of his country; the truth is they knew that lawsuit isn’t going to win them anything. Foolish.
WOW
you are absolutely right!! alot of people are in denial about pacs abilities.. when i write about a fighter, some that dont know boxing then throw names like pac hater around…very ignorant … pac mania will come to a end this fall when he fights mayweather… then the promoters can hype up the next big thing !! like you said ,wow, its the promoters job to “promote”.. mayweather has the skill and the following, so he dont need arum to promote him..imo floyd will stop manny p. in like the 11th round !! he could easily just out box him however !!
@wow
“The best offense is your best defense”. This is true on manny pacquiao against clottey. Watch carefully many times manny tries to open up so that clottey will goes on offensive. That is the only time that manny getting hit. But when pacman on combination on combination attacks clottey in defensive and can’t even throw a counter. Again you can not win a fight when your on defensive
Ryan, 3 questions for you. 1.) Who has the better all around fight game Pac or Floyd? 2.) Does Pac lack solid defense? 3.) Was Pac able to stop Clottey over hand right or uppercut? See, how you answer those 3 simple, basic question will and can tell alot about you and your ability to be honest, not with me, but with yourself.
Pac has a better chance to get elected before he can beat Floyd, Shane or Paul Williams.
Ryan Dunn, Clottey was not a measure of Pac’s lack of defense, Clottey was just another example of Pac inability to break down and connect with a defensive fighter. And when Clottey did let his hands fly, he easily hit Pac. Is that not a FACT? If you can’t be honest with that simple truth, then you are a complete Pac fan and in complete denial. Somebody, anybody tell me I’m lieing. Did Pac fail to break down a stationary punching bag in the ring with him, and did Clottey not easily connect when he did decide to punch. Thats not an opinion, that is a complete fact that me, you and the entire world saw on that night! As far as Floyd, His defense coupled with his offensive abilities, do you really think for one second Floyd is about to allow Pac to blow thru him, seriously. It doesn’t matter how much you dislike Floyd, you can not ignore the obvious. Pac punched over a hundred times per round, thats not the first time a fighter has done that, Paul Williams for example Ryan. But if your punches are ineffective it doesnt matter if you throw a hundred or ten, ineffective is just that, no good. The major difference is Floyd is going to make Pac eat more leather unlike Clottey. Its going to be a good fight for sure, but if you look at Marquez fight with him, then you look at Clottey, you can not deny Pac lacks defense, and his biggest troubles come when he face a fighter with solid defense. When the fight do happen, I’m willing to meet up with you anywhere, watch the fight with you, make a small wager, and talk trash to you round by round and rub it in your face saying, “see, I told you”. Dont mistake me for being anti Pac, I’ve enjoyed watching him over the years, but when you see his areas of struggle going up against a guy who honestly has no weaknesses in his fight game, Pac better bring a lunch because its gonna be a long night, and thats the night Arum cash cow comes to an end. Promoters job is to hype up the next best thing to take down the one who has been on top of the game, Pac is no different, but the result will be the same, and hopefully sitting side by side, I can politely rub it in your face saying “see, I told you.”
@simon
“One simple fact I realized, without PAC, few would ever be interested to share their opinions on these blogs. And without a doubt, these blogs would die a natural death-NO VISITS. So People, thank Pac for making your time wortthy.”
I agree – when Manny is the topic, comments soar in hundreds other articles are left with not even a single comment.
@wow
You need to follow chico’s posts and mine inorder for you to understand what’s going on. Nope, I didn’t start it but I mean no disrespect to all mexico because I have a lot of mexican friends. I’m just trying to answer a question that to me, it was more of a sarcasm than an honest question and it seems to me that the sarcasm is address to the whole Philippine nation.
So why don’t you tell Chico that his question was also messed up?
@Wow
I’m not disputing either of their skills. They should fight one another to see Joe excellent Floyds defense is, or how terrible Mannys is.
I happen to think Floyd can be exposed and that Manny can definitely slip punches and lean away to take the snap off.
If you really think the clottey fight is a good measure of Mannys defense, then fine. But you and I know that his gameplan was constant pressure, which leaves you open. Clottey is a stronger puncher than Floyd, and didn’t catch Manny. Why should I believe Floyd will? Both of them will dazzle, but if Floyd runs and pot shots all night I don’t see him winning. He can’t let Manny get shots off, that’s the only way he wins. Which means he better make Manny respect his left jab or he’s in for a long night.
And I respect the Floyds, Alis, Leonards and Jones Jrs just as much as I respect the Durans, Pacquiaos, Marcianos, Robinsons and Tysons. Foolish to pick either or man, and myopic.
…ryan
I wish floy would retire soon again and not pacquiao. Its going to be a disaster if the little philippino retires ahead of mayweather. Lets pray that mr pacquiao would continue to gieve more excitement in boxing for a few more years. I’m a big fan of boxing and I’ve seen enough of the boring style and dirty antics of our floyd.
walaytuli, dude thats real messed up…. Come on bro, you are insulting an entire race of people saying things like that. Come on bro, as people, we should be better and above racial comments such as that.
Ryan Dunn, I’m tired of people who wants to see a boxing/mma match. You can have an exciting fight all day long, but if the end result is a loss it was an exciting loss. Everybody want to see the action mixed up a little bit, but back in the day people use to love to watch and appreciate a boxer with Floyd skills. Not saying Floyd is the GOAT, but when you put him next to the guys who made it look easy such as Sweet Pea, Roy Jones, Ali, you can not deny the man has a more complete package than Pac. And for the record, I personally think Floyd talks too much shi@, but I can’t knock his fighting game, he makes the comp look like 3rd graders.
@Chico, I think I don’t need to explain to you my point again because I noticed that you are not really the smartest person on this planet. I feel that I’m talking to a wall. So just forget it. And with regards to your question, my answer to is, you tell me, because I know mexicans eat everything that crawls. You probably knew the answer already and just feel free to share to everybody some of your mexican delicacies.
Ryan Dunn, review my history/post! I have always given due credit to Pac. But I will not bite my tongue and play blind to his lack of defense! Great fighter, not one dimensional, but defense sucks! That you can not argue. We can argue all day about who ducking who, but two things we can argue about is 1. Floyd is a huge PPV draw, and Pac needs serious work on defense. Those are two facts no one can dispute. We can speculate all day long, but wehn we finish beating our heads against the wall, the facts remain. Argue not an opinion, but what is blatantly in your face. Pac needs work on defense!
@Wow
Stop pretending like all Manny knows how to do is knock someone’s brains out. He has plenty boxing skills himself. Floyd is a technician to be sure, but both of these guys need to step up and take on the elite of the elite. In this case it is one another.
All the posturing that Floyd is only a pure boxer or Manny is one-dimensional can be settled if they square off. Until then, it’s all just guesswork and speculation.
…ryan
Andre Dirrell just displayed to us an awesome performance against Arthur Abraham, Andre Dirrell out boxed and knew it would be dangerous and silly to stand toe to toe with slugger Abraham. I really wonder do some people watch boxing anymore or they simply rely on google quotes and stupid remarks from Dana White.
Jack Flores, didn’t the GOAT Ali do the HIT AND BACKPEDAL better than anyone in the sport of boxing? But let me see, that was the OLD days when people truly appreciated a boxers skill, athleticism, and ring smarts. Before there was MMA and people standing toe to toe merely bashing each others brains out. You claim to be an boxing ANALYST, can you please provide us with crediable credentials because you talking real dumb.
@Walleye, my point was, what does anything have to do with these guys in the ring? The only thing that can effect either of them is if Pacquiao happened to eat some tainted dog.
What does dog taste like? Do you eat it with noodles, rice, soy sauce?
Dayam!
IN MY OWN PREDICTION, IF PACQUIAO AND MAYWEATHER CLASH IN THE RING, IT WOULD BE ANOTHER CLOTTEY. THE STYLE OF MAYWEATHER IN BOXING, IS HIT AND BACKPEDAL. THAT IS VERY BORING, HE MUST FACE PACQUIAO A TOE TO TOE FIGHT TO BRING CHEERS TO ALL SPECTATORS IN THE RING AND AROUND THE WORLD WHERE BOXING IS THE MAIN SPORT ENTERTAINMENT TODAY.IF THAT HAPPENS, LET’S SEE ONCE MORE WHO RULES THE KING OF POUND FOR POUND. IN THE OLD DAYS, THERE’S NO DOUBT IS WAS MAYWEATHER, BUT TODAY, IT IS PACQUIAO WHO CONTROLS THE P4P. AND IF THAT MATERIALIZES, IT WOULD BE A SORT OF UNIFICATION.
JACK FLORES
BOXING ANALYST
as I recall floyd accuse of not finishing ricky hatten till the 11 round floyd said after manny ko ed ricky early ,,that he was using 10oz glove in that fight.and if he had 8oz. he could have finish ricky earlier. but floyd its worked two ways,that mean,beside the left hooks ricky was connecting the one that stagger you could have put you on your butt.
@ Brotha PRESTON
LOL!!!!!!! You still walking people around the block? I like the dog bit. That was slick Homie, lol! Ride till the wheels fall off Gee.
It will be a great fight if it happens Ryan. Just imagine the title of the fight.
“One Fighting Not to Loose And The Other Fighting To Win”.
Hope Floyd Fans don’t get their feathers ruffled on this title.
Regarding 10oz. gloves. Mayweather has gone on the record accusing De La Hoya of choosing to use “10 ounce pillows” in their fight instead of the 8 ounce gloves.
Doesn’t seem like Floyd would mind the 8 ounce gloves, based on that statement.
…ryan
@ Chico, I said it before and I’ll say it again, your analogy about Pacquiao’s father and sister is a fallacy. It doesn’t follow to the conversation. My mentioning on Floyd’s criminal activity is not a fallacy but a relevance to boxing because Floyd’s activity outside will reflect his personality inside the ring. And if I’ll spend my money on watching Floyd together with my children, his personality outside and inside the ring will be an open book not only for me and my children but to everybody. And if you are just using Pacquiao’s father and sister again to refute my argument on mentioning Floyd’s outside activities, (again, without providing any proof of evidence) it is a fallacy and you deserve to be called a birdbrain.
Thanks Preston!
@chico,
I have a job for you-my front lawn need some TLC.You seems to have a lot of spare time, my house need some painting too. thanks.
Pacquiao!!! No more catchweights! 10oz gloves are the rule. And take the damn test. Now let’s get it on!
Freddie Roach gave an interview about Pacquiao’s childhood which involved him running away from home at the age of something like 12 or 14 because his father ate his pet dog. When Pac was asked about it, he said that it was his nieghbor who ate his dog……but that to me wouldnt give him a reason to run away from home at such an early age…..so, I think that Pac may have been trying do a little PR control with his revised version……….regardless though, the two different versions given by Roach and Pac mean one of them is obviously not telling the truth.
@Chico,
Your analogy about Pacquiao’s Father and sister is a fallacy and it just show how small your brain really is. Floyd’s criminal activity outside the ring is still relevant and needs to be talked about because if Floyd is acting like a villain in boxing, it is not that he is just playing like a villain but it is a reflection of what is his true personality inside and outside the ring.
If Floyd will ask me to spend my money on him then he should expect that his persona will be scrutinized specially if I’ll be watching with my children.
@Chico,
Nope Pinoys are not very racist people but Americans (not all) like the Mayweathers open up their mouths fast without processing words thru their brains first and you’re one of them. Without a shred of evidence, you guys would just accuse Pacquiao of taking steroids. So how do you feel if I say Floyd is guilty right away of ordering the shooting of the guy whom he had just a beef with? Do you think it’s fair for Floyd? If you say it’s okay to accuse someone without any evidence and without even giving him the benefits of the doubts then you must have a birdbrain.
I know you guys will probably disagree, but I would like to see Pacquiao fight Berto. Berto is a young, strong, fearless guy that would lay it all out there. He would fight Pacquiao hard and he would have a good shot at KO’ing Pacquiao.
The aggregated abrasion toward Pacquiao on this site is a cumulation of tensions built up from the rampant racist commentary by Pinoys on almost EVERY site on the web!
Pinoys are a very racist people. They DO NOT fit in well in the US in certain situations!
heh, mayweather ain’t the only fight out there that beats pac. bradley, mosley, etc. Quack-Quack Pac ducked all those guys. Anyone with good counterpunching and a good mobile defense takes Pac to hell and back. That’s why he won’t even go near JMM unless Marquez comes to 144. And Pactards complain about Floyd fighting JMM at 144, but Pac wants the same thing. Snicker.
So Pac is willing to drop a bogus lawsuit to fight Mayweather? That is very manly of him.
Yet, he is still unwilling to take a real drug test. I love you Manny but you look like an idiot in all this. Take your bloodtests all the way up until the fight and collect you paycheck. Then retire like you want to.
Giving blood DOES NOT weaken a great fighter like you, so quit letting Bob Arum make you look like a pansy. Cut ties and do your own thing. Leave the biggest idiot in boxing behind. You deserve better.
@PHD
How can you say pac brought in 700,000 by himself? So what your saying is noone paid to see the mexican fighters? NO africans paid to see Clottey? It was all Pacquiao? And why are you bringin up Mayweather’s numbers before De la Hoya? That’s like bringin up Pacquiao’s numbers before De la Hoya. Pac fought Marquez twice and couldn’t do the numbers Mayweather did fighting Marquez once. So what are you talking about? By saying Pac brought in 700,000 by himself is just an excuse to cover up for such poor numbers. Everyone was calling Pac the cash cow and he couldn’t even do a million. Why can’t you fans just man up and say eh Pac isn’t who we thought he was. And why do you guys have such a hard time with Pac not being better than Mayweather? Mayweather comes from a boxing family. Pac does not. So no realist would think that Pac would ever become better than Mayweather but yet it’s something that you guys just can’t seem to let go.
i think this site is the last place where the pac hater club can socialize….i’ve looked around and this is the only site who bashes pac…all the other sites just reports news and events….since the other sites reports the 51,000 attendance at the cowboys stadium, pac single handedly brought in over 700,000 ppv buys (both mayweather fights against baldimor and judah brought in a total of 700,000 ppv buys), 7 titles in 7 divisions, including all the awards pac won that mayweather didnt, the haters had to go somewhere to get their haterade fix….and this site is the main dealer
Reading some of the comments below just makes me laugh..
People just ran out of topics to talk about Pacquaio that they resort to idiotic ideas that brings us back to high school hehehe…
I understand where the hatred is coming from.. They only have their last hope in Mayweather to beat the Pacquaio afer Manny destroyed their boxing idols.. and the funny part about that.. Mayweather’s don’t want anything to do with Manny.. I already heard Floyd say i’m fine fighting 200 chumps.. I don’t need Pacquiao.. That only tells me.. He dont want it.. he never did..
It is what it is guys.. let it go.. Manny is Top Dog now..
Keep typing your excuses to make yourself happy.. whatever floats your boat, have at it.. Type as many blogs you want, if it allows you to sleep at night.. hahaha..
When its all said and done 10-20 years down the road.. People will look back and see..
7 World Champions in 7 different weight classes..
OSDT was not in original contract!Manny Pacquiao signed those papers. Signing a contract and not following whats therein
can put you in jail.
Manny giving in to 14 day cut off should be good enough.Thats a way of showing “I Want to Fight You,Floyd.With your xylocaine or
without”.
But,When this fight happens with blood test and Pacquiao will be negative of the use(otherwise there will be no fight)
To all the fans and haters alike,this will be a win win for Pacquiao,because even if he loses,people will say Floyd weakened him with the demand of OSDT.
Don’t put a lot of weight on what you read in this website.
It’s so blatantly anti-Pacquiao.
@Walleye, Pacquiao’s dad ate his dog! And didn’t I read his sister was a prostititute?
Now what does that have to do with boxing?
Another SMOKE SCREEN to avoid taking the TEST and also to get out of THE SILLY ASS LAW SUIT.
-Sr. served time for drug dealing.
-Roger will soon be facing his rap for beating a woman.
Floyd Jr. will soon face a grand jury for being involve in a shooting incident.
@Tweezy317,
You got it wrong. This whole mess started when the Mayweathers accuse Pacquiao of taking PED’s and all of Floyd’s fans sang in chorus with them. And don’t even think that Pacquiao’s fans started this. Blame it on the Americans who don’t even use their brains before opening their mouths.
@Manny Fakequiao
Does that mean the Mayweather vs. JMM was fake (both GBP)?
Or that the upcoming Mayweather vs. Mosley will be fake (both GBP)?
Or that the thousand other fights where both boxers were in the same promoter’s pool (Don King anyone?) were all fake as well?
Please, enlighten us.
…ryan
This fight with Manny Vs Margarito is Fake!!! as the fight Clottey vs Manny..
Clottey and Margarito are promoted by Bob Arum..
Bob Arum is sucking dry all the Pinoys out of their money..
Manny Fakequiao is Fake!!!
@props79,
Now you’re talking. But if one of you Flomos will post something about Pacquiao’s personal life, I can’t find your post against it. If you Flomos don’t want to taste the dose of your own medicine, stop accusing Pacquiao of taking PED’s because everybody is always presume innocent until proven guilty in the court of law.
@chico, nice try. But you’re not a latino, you’re mexican. Never heard a mexican calling himself a latino here in new york.
walay, u sound like a cop,it aint none of your biz wht goes on in pbf personal life,stop tring to help the police an pay attention to boxing
@ ryan dunn
I remember in december bob arum flew to the philippines to discuss about the fight to manny pacquiao.The march 13 date was chosen by mayweather/gbp its already reserve at las vegas despite bob arum wanted the cowboy stadium venue.At this point do u remember all hopes are on both sides?remember the schaefer saying “we are all idiots if do not make this fight”?The drug test issue wasn’t there? I guess the OSDT just added when all negotiations is agreed upon. What do you think ryan?
@Walleye, don’t call me ese BIATCH! Latino blood is different than you and yours!
@Pisot, and how much can Pacquiao earn by fighting that group? Maybe $10 mil combined?
I agree with the previous blogger. The 10oz gloves MUST be used in the Welter Weight Division by everyone. Its the rule!!!
@Chico,
Mayweather has full support from whom?
From retarded people like you?
What’s the matter ese, have you lost faith on the mexican homes that you now pledge allegiance on a black guy who don’t even give a damn on you and your homes? Get a grip before you will be disown by your own people. Shame!
if mayweather still insists on drug tests and lion ppv share, then pacquiao will be forced again to find another opponent. A lot of potential opponents for a interesting fight.
1. Fight for 8th world weight title at jr.middleweight from the winner of cotto-foreman match.
2. If mosley wins, this will be a year top fight for pac.
3. Face Berto for double welterweight unification championship bout.
4. Challenge Jr.middleweight WBC champ Martinez at 150lb catchweight.
5. Give Marquez another chance to close out the unfinished business at 144lb catchweight.
One simple fact I realized, without PAC, few would ever be interested to share their opinions on these blogs. And without a doubt, these blogs would die a natural death-NO VISITS. So People, thank Pac for making your time wortthy.
Pinoys, tell your boy to give the tablespoon of blood or forever taint the credibility of his people. Here in LA and East LA, I can tell you Mayweather has FULL support.
Make it a mute point and give up the few drops of blood!
Negative,Chico.I know plenty of african americans and hispanics who paid attention when Mayweather went “Pacquiao is one dimensional and i can beat him on his best day…but just to make sure,let’s test him for steroids.”
If mayweather had turned professional earlier,he’d have 6 titles in 6 divisions.He and Manny fought at virtually the same weights at the same ages.The only difference is Manny needed to support his family at 16 so he started fighting professionally.he hasn’t done anything differently than floyd except for his starting professional weight class and he squeezed himself down to lower weight classes for long.this steroid crap is BS.
@Chico, in all fairness, why don’t you also call Floyd to come clean and admit it that he knew the guy who shoot someone whom he had a beef moments ago?
Pacquiao gets zero concessions! He MUST fight with 10 oz Gloves and prove that he is not using any foreign substance. If not, fight Arum fighters…perhaps Clottey again?
1 Tablespoon of blood is asking too much?
Sorry Pinoys, Mayweather has the full support of the African American and Hispanic communities on this one.
TAKE THE DAMN TEST PACQUIAO!
When the dust will settle down, this fight still, will not happen. There is a great chance that Floyd will land in jail. If Floyd and his clan thinks that Pacquiao is guilty of taking PED’s without providing any evidence, then what are the odds of Floyd getting involve in a shooting incident where a guy whom he had a beef, got shot moments later by his friend, whom he denied knowing of? The thing is, Floyd can always deny as much as he wishes to, but witnesses and the confiscated tapes are saying otherwise.
@ Body Builder: you, my friend, should be careful what you say before you pretend to state ‘facts’. Just because you have a so-called illegal drug from the Philippines doesn’t mean 90% or whatever amount are made there – there are a few thousand other countries out there in this planet called Earth, in case you didn’t know.
@ Ryan Dunn: I know everyone’s said it already but pat on the back for you for a bias article. I like both Mayweather and Pac but I really think Mayweather is asking a bit too much. I mean Pac has already stated that he will only comply to random blood testing if the state they’ll be fighting will order him to, not from some fighter that has wildly accused him.
I’m not accusing either fighter of their cases but all I want is for BOTH of them to just settle the score and box – I’m sure that’s what all fans want to see, regardless of which side they’re with!
Floyd Mayweather, keep the blood testing requirement alive in the negotiations. Soon testing will be mandated. Also, force Pacquiao to wear 10oz gloves…its the rule!
Pacs will fight on November. Are we talking floyd/pacs fight until till then? Why not talk about floyd/mosley fight for now. I understand that if you don’t mention floyd and pacs in the article only few people commenting but we have to build up other fighter too. Floyd and Pacs are the faces of boxing for now, without them boxing will slow down again until another star will born. Floyd and Pacs have to loss before they retire to create a new star. just what Oscar de la joya did to floyd and pacs. He made them a stars.
Mayweather was exceptional against Marquez, he had nearly 2 years off and he comes back lookin better than ever. Could Pacquiao do that? No he couldn’t, Mayweather is a technician at it’s finest, love him or hate him. Roach knows deep down Mayweather is an exceptional talent. His boxing skills and ring IQ are unreal.
Mayweather-Mosley is a boxing fight everyone wants to see. You have Mayweather fans, Mosley fans and the neutrals who know boxing. This fight will generate a lot.
@The Rock
I like how you think, bro. You write intelligently and you can talk smack too.
Anonymous says:
March 27, 2010 at 2:28 am
ares says:
March 26, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Anonymous
AGAIN learn to read and understand english you loser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
How could I lose when I did not make any bet? Do you understand the definition of the word loser?
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and with that…. i rest my case with you LMAO
WOW
i have a comment to your rants in ryan dunn’s march 22 article entitled “is floyd doing boxing a favor”? please read it and answer the question at the end of that posts.
@mr.sweetsci
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@kray……i have to disagree with you. if the drug test was initially in the contract, it would have been disputed already. why did they have to waste another 3 weeks of negotiation if that issue is in the contract in the first place?
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It was in the contract, at the start of the negotiations. There are articles, on this very site, which will tell you so. There is video on youTube, with Roach, who, as usual, is speaking for Manny, that will tell you so. There are several articles, from credible sources, all over the web, which will tell you so. You don’t have to take my word for it man. I don’t expect you to.
There was no dispute, AT FIRST, until Team Pac reneged on their, initial, agreement to honor PBF’s OSDT request, and decided they weren’t going to take ANY type of blood test, not required by the Commission. Eventually, they committed to 3 blood tests. And you know the rest man…
sweetsci,
Yea man, I have to agree w/KRAY, on this. You know me I’m pretty balanced (or try to be
). But in finance we use those precursors all the time so the SEC/NFA doesn’t f**k us. They’re called CYA (cover your @ss) statements.
@mr.sweetsci – By definition, those phrases are used to express an OPINION. Either you know something for certain, and can base your statements on FACT. Or, you express an OPINION.
If the lone witness on the stand of a murder trial, says, regarding the prime suspect, “I THINK he’s the killer”…”I’m ALMOST certain that’s the guy”…”IN MY OPINION he has to be the guy, look at those shifty eyes”, that killer is walking free.
@The Rock, holla at me. You post a bunch of BS all the time, lets test your knowledge and see what you really know. Holla at me big mouth! And I’m still saying f@ck you!
d. petrocelli is really FLOYD MAYWEATHER SENIOR!
wowzabean
good that your thinking like me about D. Petrocelli, Esq. he’s about as credible as me using Manny Pacquiao as my screen name lol.
D. Petrocelli, Esq
State Athletic Comissions have said Floyd had every right to ask for those demands, so everything that you have copied and pasted here is debunked by that fact, in plain english. how anyonne involved with the case will be posting here is just laughhable and probably illegal, you dont fool me D. Petrocelli, Esq
ares,
A little exaggerated, that evidence is “reasonable doubt.” You can see Pacquiao denying testing as being so, however, it would depend if the refusal took place before the lawsuit or after. I think it’s the later.
D. Petrocelli, Esq,
Is this guy for real?????? I’m not gullible, but his rhetoric makes me wonder. Use the thesaurus much? lol
Been a pleasure putting my input and reading the postings and articles. I simply want to note that the lawsuit is proceeding well and that it is not a trivial matter for our client, the existance of which is not a subject for negotiation nor does it derive from any tactical maneuvers for future professional boxing match contract agreements.
Trust me, the criteria for defamation is robust and past the muster of tort precedence at both the state and federal level.
Even more compelling is the issue of violation by GBP, and PBF as he is his own promoter and owner of his company, of Manny’s 14th Amendments right of equal protection under the law when a special requirement is made for our client to enter into gainful employment contract when such requirement is discriminatory, not required of other fighters, and especially when conceived precisely to further post fact the very defamatory accusations as charged. Alas, if Manny were to be a US citizen and to be accorded the Constitutional Rights with which we as American are each accorded!
“They can both go on making their 10 million dollar paydays.” If Chickenwing jr. loses on May 1st he will be finished.
I don’t think Floyd is afraid of Pac however the idea he wanted a little more ring time than Marquez provided isn’t implausable.
Mosely will give him that time.
As far as the fighters earnings; I know $40 mil is definitly ‘big bucks’ but when did $10mil become small bucks?
Times sure have changed, guess I wasn’t watching.
Anonymous
AGAIN learn to read and understand english you loser
wowzabean
we are basically agreeing, but pac has created most of the doubt, therefore i dont think the case is winable. EG: if i were a senator and my car is seen outside of a brothel i leave myself open to opinions and accusations. By Team Pacs logic i could sue, because no-one has actually seen me having sex with a prostitute. Even though i wont let anyone in the room to confirm it one way or the other. I know thats an exaggerated example but just like there is doubt about me being faithful to my wife(car outside brothel) the same doubts remain with Pac (refuses testing, his coach has trained cheating athletes before and being promoted by a shady character banned in arizona for brib9ng officials)
if this fight happens here’s my opinion :
if floyd wins it’s surely be a decision.
if pac wins it’ll be a KO.
….just my 2 cents
and this fight will be dubbed, “WHO’S THE BEST?”
that lawsuite is on its track to nowhere. why do you think uncle mayweather still talks the manny on roid stuff. lance the most tested athlete in the world did not win his lawsuite. if he could not manny cant. that lawyer is just takin his money. who knows manny could take the test. if he wants to retire that bad. a mayweather match is bascially 4 to 6 matches for him paycheck wise. come in bloted, not cut as usuall. no power. ass handed to him for 6 rounds b4 callin it a day. if not, shut about floyd. all that camp talks about is floyd.
@kray……what it the difference between fact and opinion? “in my opinion” or “I think” at the beginning of a sentence is not necessarily an opinion.
getting back to Roach’s statement, it really dosent mean anything, the court case was never a roadblock in negotiations.
if manny will not take test then stop talkin about matchin up with floyd. and roach needs to redo those numbers. floyd is makin 40 million dollers his next match. mosley is makin 20 million. floyd made 20 million for the marquez match after he recieved his portion of ppv . floyd does not need manny to make money. like floyd said. “ill make what i would have in the manny match in two matches. manny camp need to shut up about matchin up with floyd. not test, ok cool shut up and move on. floyd does not need you.
Generally, yes, they would be considered stereotypical. The issue is he’s being sued for libel. Now when you’re being sued every little comment matters. It’s explicit, not implicit.
i.e. If I was a celebrity being accused as a drug dealer and was caught saying, “Columbia has the cleanest coke in the world!” That would definitely be used against me in a court of law. (I know an exaggeration, couldn’t think of another example)
At the end of the day it relates to the case, so this time it does mean something.
Floyd needs Manny more than manny needs Floyd. Manny is listed as P4P #1, Floyd #2. If I was a manager, I would not accept getting told what to do by a supervisor. In other words, Manny calls the shots because he is the champion and the P4P king. It would have been different if the testing issue would have been brought from scratch, like every other negotiation by both fighters. Random Testing was not an issue at the begining of negotiations. So after a few weeks of negotiating, did Floyd wake up thinking Manny was to incredible to be true? Or was he just looking for a way out?
@ Anonymous
You dont even understand what i wrote-please learn to read and understand english before posting.
@ wowzabean
I understand what you are saying, but people have a right to their opinion and are allowed by law to express it, unless they know for a FACT that they are spreading lies. Which in this case no-one knows for a fact or not whether he is using. Yes Pac has never tested positive, but it is common knowledge that boxing’s drug testing is a joke. Pac refusing this kind of testing has given ammunition to anyone thinking he is dirty. Floyd jnr. has never once said Pac is a cheat. The most he has said is that he has gone from ordinary to extraordinary, and wanted to ensure an even playing field.and he has every right to firstly ask for OST(he does in fact compete in a combat sport) and secondly to doubt Pacman because he has refused.
Cotto has also said he cant understand pacs behaviour-its crazy, cintron has expressed doubts, nate campbell etc. The thing i don’t get is why Mallinaggi who has been as vocal as anyone about it, not included in the defamation suit? Maybe because the suit is BS and was never going anywhere. Another thing going for Floyd is that he is demnding these tests for everyone of his future fights, and altho0ugh he did start with Pac, the OST demand wont end with him.
@kray……i have to disagree with you. if the drug test was initially in the contract, it would have been disputed already. why did they have to waste another 3 weeks of negotiation if that issue is in the contract in the first place?
@wowzabean – True. It’s not officially a bargaining chip, YET. Roach’s statement is more of an “implication”, at this point, that it might be.
@kray
It’s Floyd Sr. and GBP who are more at fault. GBP has written statements with defamatory implications, and Floyd Sr. is on tape on several occasions saying it outright. Roger is as well, and all of them are named in the suit.
I don’t know enough about tort law to say whether this case has legs, and I’m not sure you do either, but I do know that by the sound of boards like this one, and dozens of others around the world, the Mayweathers have certainly messed up Manny’s public image. And isn’t that the very DEFINITION of slander and defamation?
Do you deny it?
…ryan
@wowzabean – Floyd Sr, Roger, Malinaggi, Cintron, etc, made statements, which could, possibly, be construed as “slander” or “libel”. But, PBF making an ignorant statement like “you know the Phillipines make the best PEDS”, is not much different than someone saying…”you know Cali got the best weed” or Bernard Hopkins saying, that the early (and what he felt to be unjustified) stoppage by the ref, in the RJJ vs Green fight, is the reason he never fights in Europe (though he meant Australia). These are sweeping generalizations, not slander or libel. The “implications” are no more credible, than the “implication” that Manny is PED free, because, he’s passed a very limited set of Commission sanctioned drug tests.
kray,
I 100% agree. IF used as a bargaining chip, that wouldn’t be right. But, by the wording of Freddie, it’s NOT. He’s saying “He would drop the lawsuit just to fight that guy.” It’s not a “bargaining chip.” Essentially, what I take from the wording anyway, is if it is roadblock, they’ll drop it. If it were the other way around I’d agree whole heartedly, it would be counter intuitive.
CHICO, you should go to the commision to pursue your argument; they will answer all your doubts.
I hate lawyers, they are scums, especially if they are after you. However, if you suffers from an injustice, ain’t nuttin’ better than to have a good lawyer on your side, as long as u gotta the cash, that is…
@wowzabean – If he wants to drop the lawsuit, he should do so, w/o using it as a bargaining chip. It makes him look desperate. It also makes him look like he really doesn’t appreciate the importance of more comprehensive PED testing in boxing. In the end, it just casts a darker cloud of suspicion over him. Most rational fans, of Floyd and/or Manny, want to see a fight between two UNQUESTIONABLY CLEAN, fighters. Anything else, at this point, leaves the door open for questionable results, no matter who won the fight.
Leaving it up to the commission, is fine at this point, since they appear to be on the path of adopting more comprehensive PED testing. But, doing so, will, probably, leave NO room for flexibility in the negotiations, to accommodate, and of Manny “special” needs, in this area. At least, it being a matter left to the fighters to negotiate, leaves some wiggle room, in terms of regimen, cut-off dates, etc. Not to mention, this may be a ways off. It appears Manny is anxious for this fight to happen, ASAP.
ares,
You have to look at it from another point too. All lawyers/prosecutors do. PBF would have to have some evidence needed for the implications. That which he doesn’t have before him and his family started running their mouths. His proof is “you don’t go from being ordinary, to EXTRAordianry after 25 in the sport of boxing” or my favorite “mexicans and blacks dominated the sport of boxing, when it’s somebody else it’s not normal”. So much for proof. He has the burden of proof btw, he’s alleging steroid use.
@Anonomous, yep, I guess the WHOLE WORLD is stupid and wrong and afraid of Pacquiao.
THAT’S WHY YOU IGNORE PINOYS!!!
Oh, yea, Pacquiao can fight Clottey again!
Thank Arum for his situation!
excuse me “cannot blame the Filipino people”
D. Petrocelli, Esq.
Manny’s case has no legs at all. For Pac to win his defamation case he needs to prove that Mayweather knew for a fact that Pac is clean but proceeded to tarnish his name anyway, which is pretty hard to do considering he wont take the type of testing that can catch you. Its Pac’s behaviour that has tarnished his name.(refusing OST) If any athlete in any sport around the world refuses to be undergoe the most stringent drug testing available, it leaves the said athlete open for people to have doubts about them. When he first filed this suit it really did amuse me knowing it will get thrown out in court. It seems that wont happen because they will drop the case before a judge throws it out and embarreses Team Pac once more. I predicted when negotiations first failed that Pac will only fight Top Rank fighters that wont ask for OST, and then retire when the State Athletic Commissions finally implement them. Rumours have started about the states contemplating OST, at around the same time rumours of Pac contemplating retirement. HMMM sounds abit fishy to me.
kray,
This is a democracy, not some 3rd world communist country. Freedom of speech is recognized as part of government, so comparing politics is an apple and orange situation. The difference w/Floyd vs. Manny is that with libel and slander if you can show a direct hit to image, resulting in a loss (or potential loss) of income or value, you can win the case. Manny is a public figure in terms of entertaining. Celebrities sue and win for issues like this all the time.
The examples I gave were light implications. More explicit implications were given by Mayweather Sr., and his uncle. Not to mention GBP and harder implications of Floyd SAYING (not insinuating) that the Philippines is the number 1 distributer of PED’s. You can blame the Filipino people for hating the guy, he went after a whole country.
@Bystander, then he shouldn’t have a problem taking a little test should he?
Chico,
Wtf are you talking about man. Pacquiao pulled in 700k buys against an unknown fighter. Who bought PPV that was a Clottey fan? Who attended the stadium that was a Clottey fan? Go away you have nothing useful to add.
@wowzabean – They let murderers off, because testimonies are not conclusive. PBF has been careful to never say, Manny was using PED’s. So, “light implications” will, probably, not be enough, to win this case for Manny, at least against Floyd himself. But, I’m not a lawyer, and I can’t say for sure.
However, I do know that people say negative things about the President, and members of Congress, all the time, some within earshot of them. Are all these people being hauled into court and sued, because, they have expressed an opinion or criticism? No. They have the right to do that, even with a news camera in front of them.
The lawsuit is a sham, man. If it weren’t, Manny would stop obsessing over PBF. He would move on and beat PBF, in court. If he really wants to fight, he has to do no more (and certainly no less) than what SSM is doing. He is the guy, supposedly holding all the chips. So, he should go and fight Margarito or the winner of Foreman/Cotto. He can pretty much make a fight with any fighter in the world, if he wanted. But, it’s more than obvious he wants a shot at PBF. So, he will just have to wait his turn, like everyone else.
@Body Builder
Because, you would think that pharmaceuticals or medicine would be a major export for the Philippines if what you say is true about 90% of the world’s PED’s coming from there, however, here are the top exports of the Philippines, according to the World Factbook…
1. semiconductors and electronic products
2. transport equipment
3. garments
4. copper products5. petroleum products
5. coconut oil
6. fruits
Maybe it was the coconut oil you were thinking of? They make a lot of tanning lotion with coconut oil actually. I could see how you might get those mixed up.
…ryan
Freddie just mess with our minds…Good one Freddie! You not so stupid right? You and Pacquiao no dumb right?
Sorry Pacfans…Yes they are that dumb and stupid!!!
Give Freddie and Manny the microphone!
@Chico
Seeing as Floyd brought 1M buys against Marquez, a medium-draw, and Manny brought 700k buys against Clottey, virtually a non-draw, I’d say both fighters can continue to get their $10-15M paydays as long as they keep winning.
But there’s a slight difference between $15M and upwards of $40M for a fighter, if that wasn’t apparent already. And you and I can BOTH agree, that neither of these guys, Floyd nor Manny, have another $40M payday in the near future with anyone but eachother.
Yes?
…ryan
@kray
“The OSDT was in the contract, from the start.”
I thought the same thing, but then I went to find evidence of this and I couldn’t. Do you remember where you read that? Because I can’t find it. I wonder if that was something stirred up by fans rather than from a real source.
If you have any info, could you share it? I’m honestly curious about that. I did see the video where Roach said in his Wild Card gym that he had no problem with OSDT, however.
…ryan
Roach is just messing our minds! Hahaha! Good one freddie!
Who can Pacquiao fight if Floyd demands testing and Pacquiao still needs PEDS for training?
1) Margarito – Viewed by Pinoys Only
2) Valero – = 50,000 PPV buys all Pinoy
3) Macho Camacho Sr.
4) Roberto Duran – (Roberto must fight at 136)
5) Yuri Forman = 100,00 PPV buys
6) All GBP fighters demand testing
Who needs who?
pac wants mayweather sooooooo baddddd that he wont take a blood test
floyd would beat pac because he is not a one dementianal fighter they would be fighting at a comfortable weight and mayweather wont just stand there taking punch after punch
ALl the pinoys ever say is kfc , kfc, – so stupid and ignorant the pacnuts areª
Many of the pinoys here have no life and fantasize about licking the pac balls.
Well, it happened toward the end of December as negotiations started to turn sour. Was it the cause of the falling out? Probably not. Did it hurt it? Sure as hell didn’t help.
@mr.sweetsci – The OSDT was in the contract, from the start. And, initially, it was agreed to by Team Pacquiao.
Okay I lied. To the person (Body Builder?) who made the statement that 90% of the PED’s of the world are made in the Philippines, could you offer some proof?
Because most all of the PED’s in use today — anabolic steroids, erythropoietin, and human growth hormones — are all synthetic versions of the hormones already in our body. Do you think they produce these synthetic hormones in the jungles of the Philippines?
Or do you claim that 90% of athletes use the Filipino “A-Side Meth,” the fantasy created by Roger Mayweather and said to let bullets bounce off of you?
Because if so, then well… that makes sense.
…ryan
@wowzabean – The lawsuit lingered in the background throughout the original set of negotiations. The negotiations failing, had nothing to do with the lawsuit, itself. So, putting that on the table now, is not admirable, because, it’s not likely to hamper the negotiations going forward. If it had ever proven to be a roadblock to the fight happening, in the first place, it might make sense for Manny to propose this. But, Manny is just looking desperate, right now. At this point, I really don’t care if they fight, at this point. This whole ordeal has taken the life out of it for me. But, if they were somehow able to make the fight happen, would I watch it? YOU DAMN RIGHT!!!
@The Rock, Floyd is ready, just step up and take the test and let’s get it on!
Rich countries in the West have all the means to produce the latest technology in electronics, transportation, food, medicine and what have you and they take credit for it. So, how can some people here tell that PEDs comne from the Philippines? Hello, being a third World country, most people in the Philippines will give more priority in putting food on their tables and won’t care an iota about PEDs.
For the record… A-Side Meth does not exist. If you think it’s Agimat, that’s a fantasy talisman/medallion in Philippino lore said to give you invincible powers by wearing it. If you think there is some Methamphetamine called Agimat, or A-Side Meth, that a boxer would take for a fight, you’re about as dumb as Roger Mayweather for making it up.
Also, @Manny Fakequiao, you said:
“This fight with Margarito is going to be as fake as Manny Vs Clottey..Clottey and Margarito are promoter by Bob Arum and Bob Arum is sucking dry all the Pinoys for their money to see Manny Fakequiao”
You are aware that Mosley and Mayweather are both signed with GBP right? And there have been thousands of other boxers both represented by the same promoters. Do you propose all fights where both boxers have the same promoters are fixed? That really sucks for boxing fans.
…ryan
@Donkey, YOU STUPID IDIOT! Floyd Mayweather is focusing on his job…Kicking Moseley’s ass!
I admit to using illegal substances for years that came from…the Philipines!!! Perhaps Manny could agree as well?
Everytime your fighter opens his mouth, he lets us all know that being smart is not his forte’. Imagine that as your congressman!
MMMboy!
Manny will drop the lawsuit,then retire.
He will give his A-Side Meth(Amulet)to brother Bobby Pacquiao.
Bobby then fight Floyd.
Sorry Pac will call the shots ! Mayweather is keeeping his mouth shut because of a Lawyer telling him to do so ! He or his family is not smart enough to shut their mouths unless someone stepped in. Money will take the fight on Mannys terms or he will be living on welfare 5 years after his last fight and I think he knows it.Mayweather will make big money because he’s fighting Mosley – after that – if he wins ? Then who will be next ? If he wants people to watch it will be Manny ! Mayweather has made his own bed and now he can lay in it. No one with an IQ above 10 would believe that Mayweather has any motives with the drug testing besides ducking Manny.
Pac never said he hated floyd…he said he is just not ready to fight pac and that eventually he’ll come around . Roach knows the pacman and what he says pretty much goes for the pacman and I think pac will drop the lawsuit as it is not in him anyway to do this and I know he prefers to do his talking in the ring. It would be a magnificent gesture on his part to drop the lawsuit and I think floyd should be very grateful and he and his posse should stop acting the fool (ie haymon, ellerbe, jamie foxx, paulie, alexander..etc..etc..)
Secondly kray, just look at PBF’s rhetoric. It’s so obvious he’s walking on egg shells. “I’m not saying he’s taking anything, what I’m saying is…….” “Who wouldn’t take a $25 mill drug test………” Blah blah blah. Light implications are still implications. I’m sure his lawyers are telling him to STFU.
@kray…..as far as i could remember, the contract was presented to manny first. the date of the fight is already there and manny ok’d it. the drug testing protocol though wasn’t. everything went ok even with the venue was ok’d by pacquiao. the blood testing was surfaced after everything was negotiated.
kray,
The lawsuit “not having legs” has nothing to do w/dropping it. I’m sure it’ll be detrimental to setting up a fight if you’re SUING your opponent. If it came down to dropping it, he says he would. Let’s not read too much into it. No conspiracy theories geez. If it had no backing to begin w/suing would have never taken place. People have sued and won for less slanders than the besmirching of Team Mayweather.
Solid article, here’s hoping it will happen. Everyday roach says they want floyd and everyday he says floyd doesnt run the sport and they wont answer to floyds demands. I still say unless floyd moves on the testing issue this fight will never happen.
Pac and company will not budge.
refusing a blood testing doesn’t make you guilty of using PEDs. manny didn’t refuse any drug testing. what he did refuse is the demand by floyd of blood testing. before you make your assumption please understand what is written. you guys have to know the difference between drug testing and blood tesiting. you guys make yourself like an idiot assuming manny is on PEDs which in fact he isn’t.
@kray
roach says he(pacman) “would” drop the case. it means that too much amount of eagerness to fight floyd jr he wants to prove that he CAN beat floyd jr in the squared circle. It is not that the case is weak but rather has very strong evidences (like the video of floyd sr saying that pacman is on roids).I believe D.petrocelli.
yea the mayweathers are taking so serious right….that they keep saying they think hes on that stuff lol…floyd nore gb every said he was on it they just aked for random test…now floyd sr and uncle roger…yea they said hes def on it and they still are saying it lol…they are alla cting normal because they dont care and they dont think pac will win the case anyways floyd said he dont care if he sues him so idk why they offering to drop the case like that was the breaking point in the match at all lol
Pacquiao is the GREATEST of all time
Correction: ‘the defendant…’ to previous posting.
The suit is on behalf of Manny Pacquiao and until we are ordered otherwise, the case remains active.
This proposal, if true, is Freddie Roach talking and I am not sure whether Koncz or even Manny has even been approached on this.
I used to love watching Pacman fight. All the shenanigans have left me soured. I’ll find some more interesting fighters to follow.
Has Shane filed his lawsuit yet..?
Nope, stand up guy. Attaboy Shane – do your thing.
Even if Paquioa dropped the lawsuit, Mayweather would not drop the drug testing. In the words of Mayweather” Paquioa has become extraordinary fighter and no one could do what he did without PEDs”.
@D. Petrocelli, Esq. – If it’s going so well, why is Manny willing to drop the lawsuit, if Floyd drops the testing request? I will tell you why. Because, the lawsuit has no legs. This move by Manny is another desperate attempt…much like “Winner takes all!”…to get PBF, interested in this fight, again.
The plaintiff can take the case against them lightly at their own peril.
However, it is clear that GBP and the Mayweathers are taking the lawsuit seriously and with careful deliberation on threading carefully to offer themselves the best defense. Such is the reason why PBF has all of a sudden and out of character elevated the drug testing issue to a crusade to clean the sport. This feigned attempt at self apotheosis comes in stark contrast to a well established history, in fact and in recorded declarative articulations, of participating in the sport for renumeration at the least possible risk, not for entertaining the fan or elevating the sport. Legally, to give him the best possible defense, he cannot do less than to ask his opponents and any future opponents to subject to such unprecedented testing mechanism above and beyond the normal and estalished standards as governed by the state athletic commissions.
Or will Manny resolve to the fact that he didn’t take a test so they didn’t prove his guilt?
@D Pet, ESQ Then how will Pacquiao prove his innocence? Will he take an idiot planned MOCK test like he wants us to accept?
This fight with Margarito is going to be as fake as Manny Vs Clottey..
Clottey and Margarito are promoter by Bob Arum and Bob Arum is sucking dry all the Pinoys for their money to see Manny Fakequiao
Then we are back to seeing Pacquaio vs.. Valero or Margarito
and Mayweather vs Paulie Malignaggi or Mathew Hatton
enjoy your useless debates then…
If they cant find a common ground.. then its done…
Fight will never happen.. and all his blown hot air we all waste our time on, is for nothing…
You have the right to express any and all opinions but you do not have the right to libel in written or recorded articulations, slander and/or defame a person without any basis in fact, directly or indirectly, that could be invoked to past the simplest of evidentiary muster.
The etiology of defamation, beginning with the accusation by Mayweather Sr. post Hatton in May, goaded and magnified by GBP representatives and their client, pbf, over the past ten months and the damage that has already incured since that time in the said opportunity costs of loss renumeration in professional fights are de facto damages incurred that will be tallied onto the estimated future potential economic loss at deliberation of the court case. The case is proceeding exceedingly well, evidentiary discovery is ongoing, and the wealth of the blogosphere impugning Manny Pacquiao’s character is prima facie evidence of severe damages already incurred by our client.
Then the fight will never happen…
I think mosley is thinking WTF….ha. I the one fighting floyd.and all the article for a week is all about manny and floyd.
@Donkey, you mean you are from the Philipines and you don’t know that obvious fact? Who’s the idiot?
Boxing fans, it would make most sense to ignore MOST Pinoys on here. Pacquiao gave them all a pill and all of them are in a trance.
seriously, the more you think about it, the more pac keeps putting his foot in his mouth.
just when you thought there was no other single possible way for Pac to make himself look more suspicious for PEDS, he does this.
Offering to drop a lawsuit if Floyd’s willing to fight him without blood testing?
HAHAHAHAH, hey Pac, you look GUILTY AS HELL for making that offer.
If you really wanted to clear your name, you’d just take the simple ass test like everyone else.
But no, now you’re trying to blackmail Floyd into fighting you without blood testing,
smh, this guy has the brains of an ant.
floyd still hasn’t proven the old floyd is back.he came back with a new style,if you seem floyd and marq.whole fight.watch his feet he kept his distance from marq.he jump in with a two punch and jump back two step,later he mix it up with a right lead half uppercut.then hold. its worked wonderful for marq counter style.but that style wouldn’t work on mosley or pac,as they are busy forward moving fighter, they follow floyd back punching.floyd need his old sweet pea head bobbing close fight skills as floyd has a open fighting stance left hand down,right to the side. so if this old style reappear he be aright if not
the the new floyd that out score marq.is going to eat a lot of punches,
@King of the Hill – IMO, it’s too late for compromises on the cut-off date. When this was an unprecedented request, maybe so. They tried that, already. But, now that SSM is partaking in the full battery of tests, with no concessions, no less should be expected of Manny…and I don’t think any less will…
The commissions will be using this as a model, to measure the effectiveness of such a program. If they adopt it, the flexibility of the fighters being able to negotiate cut-off times, etc., will, probably, be no more. It will be a matter handled completely by the commission, as it should be, anyway.
D. Petrocelli, Esq… Your full of Shhh. If was such an open and shut case as you say, then they would’ve gone through with it by now and the Mayweather’s and everyone else wouldn’t be saying the same things over and over… Everyone and any one has the right to give their opinion of what they think about anyone. A person will always have the right to say “In my opinion I think he is using something.” Now in Floyd jr’s case, he has the right to make demands in a contract. Now if what he demands causes speculation, then so be it. And Team Pac know this that’s why you will never see anything happen with that suit. Only Pactard’s really believe that it’s for-real.
@ Bodybuilder, And where did you get your info that 90% of PED’S come from the Philippines? Are you sure? I know we have lasix that we inject in horses not people. But if you are pertaining to the A-meth that Roger is saying, I think you guys are dreaming because what you are talking about is the mythical ANTING-ANTING that came from the old supernatural Filipino movies. You guys are funny!!!!!
If you want to see Manny and Floyd fight each other..
the real question is..
what is the “common ground” these two boxers can agree upon concerning the window of days for testing before the megafight..
If you just keep saying random random random.. then the fight wont happen..
if you want the fight to happen they “BOTH” have to agree to a common ground..
30 days 14 days before the fight and right after the fight is good for me..
what do you guys think?
@D. Petrocelli, Esq. – Pacquiao, hastily, chose an inferior (and virtually unknown) opponent after he decided to discontinue his negotiations with Mayweather. Therefore, he is to blame for the opportunity cost, he incurred.
@King of The Hill, from all that I am reading, September is supposed to be the magic date for comprehensive “Random” blood testing world wide for all sanctioned boxing events. (With the exception of the Philipines and Kazakistan)
So unless Pacquiao will fight 100% of the time in the Philipines, he will have to submit to testing even up to the day of the fight. I bet that would be lucrative!
yea nobody every requested more random blood testing in the history of boxing right?? wait didnt tyson request it for holyfield…yes he did…so the most feared man on the planet at the time request it…what does that make him a h?? or amybe he felt holyfield was cheating…well we know how history played out miek tyson didnt get his request he lost and holyfield is found a user …so what floyd has done has been asked before and shut down and later we found out the guy was cheating so for history to not repeat itself and to show everybody clean take the test
@wow
I agree with you.THIS MEGAfight will not gonna happen. People say so much money that it will gonna happen.Isn’t it at first place there is already huge money involved?but what happen?fails!If no one makes a desperate move on each camp.Boxing fans only hope now is the commission will adopt the rule. but For how long?
Manny Pacquiao would stand to loose at least, conservative estimate, 100 million US dollars in punitive and defacto damage if he does not proceed with the lawsuit.
I dont know if you guys realize what happened in December.. Manny will not subject himself to random.. They will have to agree to a window of days for testing..
14 days should be open for discussion in my opinion..
if Mayweather wants random til the day of the fight, then he leaves no room for negotiations.. then we are back to December of 09.. no fight..
Then we are back to seeing Pacquaio vs.. Valero or Margarito
and Mayweather vs Paulie Malignaggi or Mathew Hatton
Is that what you guys want to see..
We need to find a common ground… where both parties agree…
or no fight..
Our associates have been competing among each other for the chance to participate in the lawsuit because it is an open and shut case and the monetary damages huge against GBP and the Mayweathers, their business interests and any insurance and casualty protection they may have for said interests. For starters, the estimated 40 million dollars difference between the Clottey and failed Mayweather fight is an opportunity cost incured by Manny Pacquiao as a result of such defamation.
This damage aloned does not take into account of potential future damage, commercial and sponsorship damage and of course punitive damage for tarnishing the reputation and standing of an iconic figure in sport and cultural history.
@Renu…A small test is all that we need to make it all happen! Talk to your boy!
Knowing 90% of the worlds PEDS come from the Philipines…UMMMM, I think there is at least a chance Pacquiao is dabbling in their use!
Its worth a small test to find out….
Both Floyd and Manny are amazing boxers. There is plenty of confusion going on between the two camps so it might take a while for the fight to happen. Only time will tell if The truth will be unfolded before our eyes to who is the real P4P king.But if Floyd is serious in regaining the P4P crown, he better make sure of dominating Shane first and then call on Manny to fight him without asking so much conditions.Since he is naturally bigger, faster and have better ring generalship he will have a lot of explaining to do with millions of boxing fans around the world if he does not cooperate to make the fight happen. But he better watch out…the Pacman has got all the tools to hand him his first defeat.
@King of the Hill, …get Manny to take the test and let’s get it on!!!!Also, he will be using the 10oz gloves this time!
A $40 Million dollar test…Take it Manny!!!
Manny offering to drop the lawsuit, in exchange for Floyd dropping the test, is low, for such a “pious” individual as he purports to be. He appears to be willing to sell his soul, for the proverbial 30 pieces of silver, just to prove a point he could’ve proven, and retained 100% of his credibility, when he had the chance. This is getting ridiculous. The lawsuit was supposed be based on principle. He felt that Floyd and his associates slandered his “good” name, so he took them to court. I feel it was a b*tch move, but, a move, allegedly, based on principle, nonetheless. He could’ve BEEN PAID to settle matters in the ring, as opposed to PAYING to settle them outside the ring, in the first place.
Not to mention, dropping the lawsuit was not a negotiation point, so, it has no place in the discussion. Damn the lawsuit! He should be offering to take the OSDT test, and give up that 60/40 split that he knows Floyd will have earned if he beats SSM. Floyd should maintain his stance on this. Floyd throwing the testing out of the window, for a big money fight with Manny, will only serve to discredit, what has now become his “crusade” (whether he wanted it to or not), to help improve testing procedures, in boxing. I feel it would be a move, equally low (or lower), as Manny’s BS offer to drop the lawsuit. But, would I watch the fight, anyway? YOU DAMN RIGHT!!!
As far as Roach’s comments about Floyd not being ready for Manny, at that time. We’ve never heard Floyd say that. However, I have read what Roach told one boxing scribe, at eastboxing.com, after the Cotto fight…”Freddie Roach sat in the media room after the Cotto fight and told me directly that he would “need more time than a March 13th date to prepare Pacquiao for a style like Mayweather’s”. So, who was not ready for whom? It should be clear. It also should be clear, by the way the “P4P King” seems to be chasing the, so called, #2 guy, that he feels he has something to prove. Who needs whom more? It’s obvious. Remember “Winner take all!”….GTFOH…LMAO…
I just want a clean fight where both athletes are on the same page. I think the 10oz glove will minimize any advantage PEDS would allow. It would be funny watching Pacquiao hit Floyd with the “Pillow” rolling them off with the shoulder roll, and getting countered constantly.
Hey man, I think we are on to something here. And guess what…the 10oz glove is the rule in the WW division and above!
i agree with the author. i think floyd is not yet ready for pac so he made some excuse to avoid the biggest fight of his career. but i think unless he drops the drug testing demands, this fight will never happen. but im really looking forward to this fight.
bonds,jones,canseco ,toney,a rod,mosley,vargas…these are all americans well known for using steroids..so,torre,reyes,nepomuceno,elorde,penalosa,donaire,all well known filipino athletes,never never tested positive of any illegal substance …why pick on manny ,if he is american i believe hes on it…
Just shut up and fight.. plain and simple.. 40 million dollars on the table.. let the commission do their jobs.. and you do yours… BOX!!!!!!
If commission says do random.. then do random… if not.. then just fight.. plain and simple…
40 million dollars to take a test or not to take a test.. easy route is to just agree with the 24 day window and just fight..
Please someone tell me.. Who here wouldn’t fight Manny for 40 million dollars.. please tell me…
Anyone? oh i know,”Mayweather” … only one person in the world who denied that type of money…
i wonder why…
@eric /you saw what happened to cotto even when cotto was runing at the end that did not help.if clottey came out of his shell the fight would of been over sooner .
test (no pun inteded)…
Imagine Pacquiao trying to fight Mayweather with 10oz gloves…Mayweather prefers them and is superb with them. Pacquiao MUST have the 8oz glove because he depends on the KO for his victories.
Floyd, demand the 10 oz glove which is the rule for all fights welterweight and above. Pacquiao will go back down to 140 where he could use the glove he so needs!
As boxing fans, at the end of the day, were we entertained> Was it worth our time? Were we ever given notice? I yearn for the time when boxers fight because the fans want them and the Boxing commision mandate them. I yearn for the time when boxers just fight and not make ridiculous demands to cover up the unpreparedness. As De la Hoya said in LOPEZ TONITE, it all depends on Mayweather. He dictates boxing because he can and no one no one is better than him, his word is the law, he is the king. A man has yet to be born to prove otherwise. HE was the man when he left, he is now the man when he came back. We may not like this reality but it is what it is. HE is the moneyman. He is boxing. Pacquiao and the rest ought to thank him he came back to bring up and clean the sports of boxing.
I find it very amusing that all the pundits talk about pbf demand for random olympic style drug testing and that its never been done in the sport before(which is true) however neither has a 10million dollar per pound penalty pac camp insisted upon and mayweather agreed to with no hesitation which was a ridiculous amount.
Floyd is the much faster boxer and a superb defensive fighter the likes pac has never seen. Floyds probably the best counterpuncher in the sport at this point. If clottey as well as cotto could land 30% of their punches just think what floyd would do(even though hes not the most offensive fighter weve see). Marquez landed at a rate of almost 45% aginst pac and his hand speed is no where near pbf. The fight will go the distance with pac starting out fast and floyd adjusting and putting on a clinic in the later rounds.
@Duke, that’s a good point! The 10 oz glove point by Manny should be removed by Floyd. This takes away ALL of Manny’s punching power because he heavily depends on the 8 oz glove.
Make Pacquiao fight with 10 oz gloves!!! I bet he couldn’t do it!
never in the history of boxing has there been a fighter knocking elite fighters out as he goes up in weight. yall manny lovers need to get off the tip. manny is on it and if he aint, he should agree to the test. you say floyd can’t make the rules up. i thought it was up to the commission to set penalties for coming in overweight. i thought it was costumary in nevada for welters and up to wear 10 ounce gloves. juiced or not, floyd beats manny.
I just wish this philipino will shut this loudmouth, the sooner we get rid of him the better. Floyd is a disgrace to boxing and his people. I will never condone his behaviour although I am balack. We are not like him.
And my comments are not an attack on your Ryan Dunn as I do not see this article being biased like most of the ones I read on this site… You found an interview and wrote up on it with your own comments and thoughts…
@Dollar123, you are absolutely right. In ways it will be worse because Manny will begin seeing he is getting hit and losing. Then he will begin swinging and flailing even harder opening himself up even more. A recipe for disaster in fighting Floyd Mayweather!
let’s just wait for shane to knock floyd’s mouth off & see what floyd has to say after that
wow… Most of the comments on here actually make sense… I don’t see the fight happening, at least anytime soon. 2 weeks non testing, gloves, ring and purse all the way you want and you dont want to fight…. But your willing to wait until the commission makes random blood testing mandatory with no cutoff date even though you’d be “weaker” than you would be with the terms he already offered you? Its because Mayweather can’t dictate the terms right? Even though that was like 5 excuses down the line…. The lawsuit was a joke in the first place… Just like one of the previous comments said, he’s doing this so his worshipers say “Look he is trying to fight him” when anyone with common sense knows he would have lost the lawsuit. Then you try to point the finger at Mayweather saying he needed more time, WOW haha.. Pacman has a million excuses but you still find any way to say it was because of Mayweather haha. The man who said he’s weak due to blood taken wants to have it taken up to fight night instead of a 2 week guaranteed free window right? Because that makes sense right? Or maybe he didn’t think the commissions would be looking into the matter this quickly and he could stick to that excuse until he retired? Who knows, the only obvious thing is his camp comes with excuse after excuse and change after change, but the haters continue to find ways around the obvious to blame Mayweather. What I predict is if the commission does take on this new testing, Mayweather would have beat Pacquiao’s PPV sales soo much he’s obviously going to ask for a bigger purse and the fight will not happen again…
If Cotto and Clottey can average landing 30% of their punches.
That means Floyd will land between 50 and 60% of his punches.I don’t no a fighter alive that could take getting hit so much without being dropped.Floyd has power, little guys like Manny he knocks out,even in the Marquez fight he demonstrated he could drop and KO Marquez if he wanted.Floyd needed the time in the ring to shake off cobwebs.If Manny is swinging and only landing 20% of his punches against Clottey he will hit Floyd 10% of the time.The fight will look like the Marquez fight.
I agree the lawsuit is almost laughable. Even the amount is probably enough to pay the bar tab for Mayweathers’ friends. (He doesn’t drink)
All of the things I am reading on the various blogs tell me that Arum, Roach and Pacquiao are pushing very hard for a payday with Mayweather. I WOULD MAKE THEM WAIT!!!
No test = No Fight! Which means no payday for any of you! Floyd will probably make $30 – $40 million for fighting Mosely. Remember, he doesn’t have to share it with ANYONE!!! Pacquiao has to give 27% to Arum, and 7% to GBP. Thats a big cut!
All these guys want is that $40 to $50 Million payday and then plan to retire. Floyd can fight Mosely 2 times then retire.
Arum, Roach, Ariza and Pacquiao are cheats and I guarantee they will get caught!!! Just a matter of time…
I’ve been a FM fan since 2006, but I don’t think he can take the stamina of Pac if they ever fight. I think Pac just has more heart. He’s willing to take hits just to give hits “rocky style”. It will most likely go all 12 rounds because FM has too much pride to get knocked out by Pac, but Pac will be doing all of the offense and that will win the judges…no smack talk, just the truth.
I’ve read the lawsuit. It doesn’t have a chance in hell at succeeding; not a chance. Dafamation is very difficult to prove. A statement of opinion that Pacquiao is on PEDs is not dafamation.
Everybody knows that most PEDS are manufactured in the Philipines. And you are going to tell me Pacquiao isn’t indulging in the numerous items available? Pacquiao is not only using, he is HEAVILY using PEDS to enhance his workouts then cycling through them prior to fighting.
This happens in all sports by all cheaters.
Boxing fans, don’t be idiots! Pacquiao is definitely using PEDS!
Ignore the Pinoys…push for testing!!!
A fight with Mosley or Valero would be an exciting bout for Manny Pacquiao and most of the boxing fans. And this boxers always wants a bout with Manny Pacquiao under the state boxing commission rules and regulations, anytime anywhere because its where the money is.
I just smh at these fools. So when Mayweather offers Pac a 2 week window so the big cry baby can heal from the big bad needle, they won’t do it. But if the commission orders the testing, it won’t have any cutoff period whatsoever. Poor baby Manny is gonna have to get tested all the way up to the fight. Dude, Roach and Pac are talking out of their azz. They don’t want any piece of Mosley or Mayweather. And LOL at dropping the lawsuit – like that sh.t is going anywhere. Easily the biggest b.tch move of the decade – oh wah wah, I don’t like what you said about drugs, even though I look guilty as hell for refusing to take a test…but I’ll sue you. LOL.
LOL at the whole ‘I’m gonna sue you’ thing, ahahaha. That was the biggest bh move of the decade. Just how’s that lawsuit going anyways? Snicker.
Floyd is smart not fighting Pacquiao at this peak.. Floyd is waiting til Manny slows down.. then he will agree to fight him.. If you followed Floyd like I have, throughout the recent years you will see, Floyd picks his opponent to his advantage. Floyd knows he has passed his prime.. 4 out 5 fights were won from decision.. He doesnt possess the knockout power to take out a Mosley or Pacquiao, but his skills are still fast enough to shine maybe with a victory.
But if Floyd keeps waiting.. he is older then Manny.. and everybody knows when a man hits 35 years old, your natural adrenaline, body’s own growth hormone, and everything else decreases a significant amount giving Manny the advantage..
Its obvious that Manny still wants to fight.. Floyd you better step to the plate before you get too old..
MAYWEATHER IS GOOD, PACQUIAO IS BETTER , And obviously can take an uppercut ( CLOTTEY), left hook( COTTO ) barrage/ counterpunch ( MORALES ) . and dropped MARQUEZ 3 times in 1st round. Mayweather knows this and so he is scared
mrRomero…..I AGREE…FLOYD IS SCARED TO LEAVE HIS BACK YARD
@Donkey.
I’m too tired to fight about this anymore.
Yes, Floyd will floor Manny. Did you see how many times Clottey landed on him? How many more times will Floyd do it with conviction?
You are ignorant for believing otherwise.
I dream about naked women… You can continue dreaming about two half naked men roughing each other up. Unless that’s your thing. Then God Bless!
Considering Pacquiao has absolutely no chance of winning his lawsuit anyway, this is pointless. We will drop it before the court kicks us and the case out of court! Really? Wow, that is so generous of Manny to save himself from being told by a judge he filed a very frivilous lawsuit he never had a chance of winning in the first place. Roach and Pacquiao seem obsessed with Mayweather and can’t keep his name out of their mouths, while Mayweather is doing fine, just focusing on his next opponent, the one Roach said was “too good” for his fighter.
PA QUIAO PROVED OVERTintotoroytango RT @adanvecindad: Sí hubo un mexicano que le ganó a Manny “Pacman” Pacquiao, fue Erik “El Terrible” Morales, aunque en la revancha le ganó el Pacman about 2 hours ago &OVER THAT HE CANTAKE a BIG SOLIID PUNCH FROM A BIG SOLID GUY, mayweather is scared , because he knows he cant hurt HIM
Floyd KO’s Shane Mosley Round 4, Afterwards Dismantles Manny Round with manny looking far worse than he looked after Chicken Clottey fight. Manny will be KO’D in the 6th Round by grand entertainment moneyweather style.
Manny is saying what any real boxer would say,… only sissy’s want to file a law suit when satifaction can be had by presenting a public beat down against your enemy,.. damn the lawsuit,… take out of his ass,… besides,.. Floyd only has a couple of good years left,.. if that long,.. so let’s make this happen,.. Mannys flunkies were way too involved with the negotiations,.. and Arum let his hate of Mayweather,.. who got rich fighting Oscar,(without the Bobfather getting paid )further tarnish the negotiations with his hateful rhetoric… I like Floyd to win if they make do it within the next 18 months,.. after that,… Floyd won’t be able to handle Pac,.. as old age will start creeping in….
julio it has to happen unless one of them really dont want the fight chances are the commission is stepping uop and giving blood mainly because they knwo floyd wont budge and since he wont budge that means no fight and there is so much money on the table and it can help boxing out so much so they will dowhat ever it takes this time to make it happen since the promotors couldnt do it…and now pac dropping his law suit so that wont be a problem even though i dont think it was going to be any before so it has to happen now …only way it wont is if bob arum is still being himself which is messing up fights lol..to ensure it to happen he needs to retire as a promotor i would say death but i would never wish death on someone even if im not serious thats not a laughing matter lol
i have no idea why i typed in caps…lol
@Nick Winner:
Floyd can floor Pacquiao??? You nuts? Cotto couldn’t do it and Mayweather don’t have the punch to do it, quit dreaming.
ROACH IS NOT SLICK IN EEVRY INTERVIEW RECENTLY HE ADDS A LOT MORE COMMENS ON WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IF FLOYD AND MANNY AGAIN..HE HAD COME OUT AND SIDE FLOYD CAN HAVE HIS NAME FIRST LIKE HES THE CHAMPION HE EVEN SAID HE COULD HAVE A LITTLE MORE MONEY WE JUST WANT TO FIGHT NOW HES DROPPING THE LAW SUIT SO IT LOOKS LIKE MANNY WANTS THE FIGHT REALLY BAD RIGHT? BUT PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME DID ANY OF THOSE REASONS STOP THE FIGHT THE FIRST TIME??? NO IT DIDNT SO WHO THE F*** CARES YOU DOING THIS AND THAT BECUASE IN THE END THE BLOOD TEST WAS THE MAKING BREAKING DEAL SO FOR YOU TO GIVE A LITTLE ON SOMETHING HE DIDNT GO HARD ON IS STUPID BUT ITS W.E HOPEFULY THE COMISSION COMES THREW AND STEPS UP AND ATLEAST MAKE BLOOD TEST FOR CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS BY THE SUMMER SO ATLEAST THIS FIGHT CAN BE MAD ALREADY SO WE CAN SEE WHO THE BEST REALLY IS..SMH
All this back & forth talk between fighters and boxing fans is ridculous. Wuuld these guys just fight already. They had there chance to make the mega fight but for whatever reason, the fight did not happen. Thats why I have so much respect for Mosley, he is willing to fight anyone! For you so call boxing fans outg there, stop being so disrespectful. None of you have ever been in a boxing ring so stop thinking you know whats best.
The only REAL reason I want this fight to happen, is so I can STOP reading so many articles going back and forth.
Let the fight happen. Floyd will floor Manny. And we can stop hearing about it