Pavlik thinks Taylor hasn’t been the same since being stopped by him

By Jim Dower: In an article at Vindy.com, WBC/WBO middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik (36-1, 32 KO’s) says he thinks that he changed the career of former WBC/WBO middleweight champion Jermain Taylor (28-4-1, 17 KO’s) after stopping him in a brutal 7th round stoppage three years ago in September 2007. Since that loss, Taylor has been defeated three out of his last four fights, with two of the losses being knockout defeats.

Pavlik says “You look at Taylor. The [Carl] Froch fight, he [Taylor] was winning that fight until the last round. Even when he got dropped, he could have took another knee and he was up so far on the scorecards, he could have still won the fight. And with him and Abraham, past the sixth round, he went into survival mode, like he said ‘I don’t want to get knocked out.’ And I think that’s maybe from when I fought him.”

Pavlik isn’t the only one that believes that he might have changed Taylor’s career for the worse. Other fans, both boxing writers and fans, suspect that the knockout that Taylor experienced against Pavlik in their first fight might have made him more susceptible to future knockouts. That could be the case, but it also could be a situation where Taylor had reached a point in his career where he was now fighting big punchers and his defense and chin wasn’t up to the task.

If Taylor had met up with Froch, Pavlik and Abraham early in his career, chances are that Taylor would have been knocked out then too. He hadn’t fought anyone close to having the power of those three fighters early in his career. The one change I can see in Taylor that I think has affected him even worse than his ability to take punches is his stamina.

Taylor has had issues with his stamina since 2005 in his two narrow 12 round decision wins over Bernard Hopkins. Taylor fought well for six rounds, but then faded badly in the last rounds and looked exhausted at the end of both fights. Taylor’s stamina issues continued to plague him in fights against Winky Wright, Kassim Ouma and Cory Spinks.

Taylor fought well for the first six rounds in all of those fights, but then looked tired in the stretch run. Even in the first Pavlik fight, Taylor gassed out after knocking Pavlik down in the 2nd round. Instead of getting his wind back in the next round like most fighters would do, Taylor continued to look gassed out until he was eventually stopped in the 7th. You could say that Taylor’s stamina problems might be a big factor in why he was stopped by Pavlik, Froch and Abraham. In each case, Taylor was knocked out when he was tired.

Pavlik faces Sergio Martinez next month on April 17th at the Boardwalk Hall, in Atlantic City, New Jersey. Martinez will be the best opponent that Pavlik has fought since Pavlik was soundly defeated by Hopkins in October 2008. Pavlik’s opposition since that fight has been badly lacking. Since the Hopkins loss, Pavlik has faced Marco Antonio Rubio and Miguel Espino, two fighters that aren’t exactly household names for boxing fans.


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13 Responses to “Pavlik thinks Taylor hasn’t been the same since being stopped by him”

  • ashishwarrior says:

    funny that pvlik as not been his confident self since old man hopkins schooled him pot calling kettle?

  • T-roy says:

    I meant to say this is why he did well up til the time he became champ.

  • T-roy says:

    I have a feeling that it was not just pavlik that took the desire out of Taylor. It was a combination of things. First off Taylor was trained, i beleive up til he go the championship, by Pat Burns. From what i can tell Burns had quite the regimen and It was good for Taylor but he did not necessarily see eye to eye with burns. It seemed like they were a good match as far as what they could get done. This may also have had something to do with why he was not quite as good coming up through the ranks.

  • NOELWAN says:

    Pavlik was the first person to ever KO Zuniga, McKart, Zertuche, Miranda, Taylor, Lockett and Espino… McKart, Lockett and Espino all quit so they avoided getting laid out. But Zuniga, Zertuche, Miranda and Taylor all got laid out viciously and they’ve all been cracked eggs ever since. Abraham got his ass whipped by Miranda the first time they fought but after Pavlik KO’ed Miranda he was easy pickings.

  • jim says:

    martinez will not be able to deal with pavliks power. in my eyes he beat paul williams but williams’ doesnt possess knockout power like pavlik

  • Oli says:

    Pavliks also never been the same since Hopkins gave him a pasting he will never forget

  • Mr Rich says:

    Its more likely that Taylor hasnt been the same since moving up to super middleweight.

    Putting on that extra weight did nothing to help his stamina problems and he cant cope with the power and strengh of the true super middleweight fighters.

    If he wants to continue fighting i suggest he goes back down to his natural weight.

  • Boss says:

    Taylor problem is Taylor. Pavlik better worry bout Sergio knocking his ass out.

  • ZKO says:

    I think Pavlik is correct… Taylor was not the same after being KO’d by Pavlik. At the same time, Pavlik has not been the same after being beaten by Hopkins. Some boxers are just never the same after their first defeat.

  • Kid Dynamite says:

    pavlik is in a world of his own if he thinks that…although i can see why he thinks that?? the problem with Taylor is that if a championship fight was 10 rounds he would be champion…he gasses out like zab…
    personally i think that Taylor aint that big of a puncher (and thats just my opinion) but he shouldve got pavlik out of there (lucky to survive the round but i suppose thats what a good boxer is made of?)…think martinez will have a good chance as he takes chances..but should be a good fight so good luck to them both….ill be watching it!

    pz

  • Reidj says:

    Pavlik should stop living in the past and step up to better competition. It looks like he is being protected now with easy fights.

  • Sugar Ray says:

    taylor’s got all the tools-speed, technique, size in most cases, athleticsm etc. seems like his biggest prob was the mental aspect. his biggest obstacles to overcome were stamina and confidence which either can be conquered with “mental” discipline and dedication. i’m not talkin as if it would be a piece of cake to just go and unify the middleweight belts by summertime, by all means. he’s been there before and got there on pure talent and athleticism. it’s too bad that the bounce back for him was just too much. unfortunately for him fans use fighters like taylor as the difference between good fighters and great fighters.

  • Cruz says:

    Some fighters can be in top shape and still get heavily tired. Taylor doesnt look relax when he fights and he doesnt know how to control his energy. Taylor’s problem is himself.

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