Pacquiao: When is he going to step it up and fight someone really good?
March 15th, 2010
By Chris Williams: Unlike a lot of people who are crowing 24/7 about how great Manny Pacquiao has looked in chocking up his latest win over Joshua Clottey last Saturday night at the Cowboy Stadium, I wasn’t impressed in the least by the fight or Pacquiao’s opponent. I’m tired of seeing Pacquiao put in with fighters that I see as tailor made for him.
You know, the come forward types with almost zero ability to move or defend. In Clottey’s case, he was able to defend himself well, but was incapable of throwing more than a token shot in self defense. The thing of it is this was known going into the fight about Clottey.
Although Clottey was ranked at number #1 by the WBO, despite having lost his last fight, he probably deserved to be ranked nowhere near number #1 based on his performances in the past. It was sad to see Pacquiao matched up with yet another fighter who was incapable of giving him a good fight. Pacquiao defeated Miguel Cotto in his last fight, Ricky Hatton in the fight before that and Oscar De La Hoya before Hatton.
All those guys were good at one point in their careers but had suffered problems shortly before being selected for a fight against Pacquiao. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing for Pacquiao to have fought those guys. I mean it is what it is. They were obviously more popular – and perhaps less dangerous – than guys like Andre Berto and Shane Mosley.
Those were fighters that for some reason Pacquiao wasn’t put in with, which is too bad because it would have been a heck of a lot more interesting to see Pacquiao fight them compared to the immobile De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto and Clottey. I wish I could see Pacquiao facing the likes of Mosley and Mayweather in the future, but I don’t see those fights happening.
It’s not Pacquiao’s fault, of course. He seems to go along with whatever his management says. But I don’t see his management putting in with a threat like Mayweather or Mosley regardless if there’s no blood testing. I see Pacquiao being put in with the likes of Yuri Foreman or maybe some of the other Top Rank fighters like him. Mayweather and Mosley would be great fights, to be sure, but maybe a little too dangerous for Pacquiao and it could end the gravy train a little early before Pacquiao is through.
I see Pacquiao as a good fighter, but not nearly the best in the welterweight division. I think Mosley, Mayweather, and Berto and then new kid, Saul Alvarez, all beat Pacquiao. Alvarez is pretty green at only 19, but he hits like a ton of bricks. If that was him in with Pacquiao last Saturday night instead of Clottey, I’d hate to see what Pacquiao’s face would look like today. Alvarez hits a lot harder than Clottey and is a much busier as well.
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Its time to stop fighting punching bags and corpses. Freddie Joke the Roach and Bob Arum know that you are a very average fighter when facing the best.
Times up Pacquiao!!!
What was written is ABSOLUTELY true! Pacquiao only fights the slow, the forward plodding, low output, weight drained, war weary, old has beens.
Dammit Pacquiao get off the gravy train, fight the best of the best. This media train you are on will end abruptly when you face Mayweather, Mosely, Berto, Bradley, or Williams.
Pacquiao…they are waiting for you!!!
Haha This writer is funny.
56 fights, 7 world titles, and none of these opponents are really good. All those hall of famers are garbage.
Mr Williams, I think the correct question you should ask is “Pacquiao – When is he going to fight someone better?”
I love boxing to death, and i love to watch pacman fight. This website is nothing but pacman hating S.O.B’s who write on it. You either say he fights nobody and then you say he cant win against his foes…come on your dumb asses pull your head out and make up your mind…….im out.!!!!1
I agree. When is Pacquiao gonna fight someone really good? I mean a future hall-of-famer. Eric Morales, Juan Marquez, Marco A. Barrera, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto…who were those guys? ….I never heard of ‘em.
let’s take clottey for instance, yes sure he doesn’t throw that much punch, but let’s take a look at what or how he did with judah, margarito and cotto? he took care of judah, he may have lost to margarito but he was very competitive and if he did not hurt his hands he could have won that fight! with cotto, there were some who thought that clottey actually won! now with pacquiao, he wasn’t able to do much! or you refuse to see what was actually happening because you hate pacquiao so much! and by the way, what makes you think you are a better analyst than steward or kellerman? both liked what they saw with what pacquiao was doing against clottey!
mosley will knock out pacquiao?? cmon, cotto decimated sugar shane and we all know what happened to cotto.
miguel cotto is the most dangerous welterweight out there until pacman beat him.
hell, floyd wont even fight cotto and we all know that.
anyway, how many welterweights floyd faced? why is his name in there for being one of the best welterweights? because of his zero??
no disrespect to berto and that kid but they haven’t faced top-caliber fighters yet… and putting their name on top of pacquiao is simply a dumbass’ prediction
@ Ian
LOL you must be dreaming..
Pacquiao didn’t duck anyone he moved yup in weight.
He beat the #1 boxer at light welterweight, Ricky Hatton, then he fought the #4 and #5 boxers at welterweight respectively.
Pacquiao only fights the BEST. The boxers you mentioned are good but not highly ranked. Where is the money in that?
Next for Pacquiao will be the #2 or #3 welterweight, Mayweather and Mosely respectively, who ever wins that bout.
Get your facts straight next time chump!
Pacquiao has DUCKED Humberto Soto from more than 3 years. Pac has also DUCKED Juan Diaz, Edwin Valero, Joan Guzman, Shane Mosley, Floyd Mayweather Jr. , Nate Campbell.,,,Pac only cherrypicks Old faded greats like old Morales, Old Barrera, and “shot” fighters like Cotto, Oscar, and C-level BUMS like Jorge Solis, Hector Velazquez,,,,,and all of this while Pac “juiced up” with illegally banned substances like EPO, HGH and other strains of designer steroids that can only be caught with blood tests within 46 hours of use. Thats why Pac avoids detection and continues to CHEAT, and thanks to the “milking” of his career by Bob Arum, Oscar and other boxing authorities who all overhype and overstate everything Pac does.
@ Fighter
fyi, here is the top 3 in the P4P standings (All Weights):
#1 – Manny Pacquiao
#2 – Floyd Mayweather
#3 – Shane Mosley
on the other hand, here is the Welterweight standings:
Champion: none
#1 Contender – Manny Pacquiao
#2 Contender – Shane Mosley
#3 Contender – Floyd Mayweather
Pacquiao will be the champion by beating Mosley or Mayweather. Mayweather must beat Pacquiao (not Mosley) to be the champion.
Mayweather should stop bragging himself and check his standing. Pacquiao is in the higher position than him, and Mayweather needs him.
you’re a one-dimensional blogger, chris williams. You’re a moron. Don’t change the facts. PACMAN exposed them all such as ODLH, Hatton, Clottey, Cotto, Barrera, Morales, Marquez etc… It was all a one-sided fight for the PACMAN (except for Marquez)…. Can you say the same with chicken floyd fights????
hahaha.. i knew my posts would be deleted.. nothing but nothing pisses off than calling their ‘writers’ on their ‘biases’..
huh? i think your nothing pacman his latest victory to cotto hatton etc,, all that fighters is great,, but pacman put them all in floor,, think before you do a non sense article,,
cris williams has no brain or hes paid by golden girls promotions
Cotto is “not really good”? Hatton was the Lineal Champion, he was “not really good”? Morales, Marquez, Ledwaba were “not really good”? I know you hate Pacquiao, but do you hate all other fighters except for Mayweather, as well?
You have a point @author. I do prefer pacquiao fighting someone like margarito, Moseley and even valero people like that nature. I mean I want to see good, both man going at it, lots of fireworks, big bang! and could hardly keep anyone in their seats kinna fight. At first I thought pacquiao vs mayweather maybe a good and exiting fight but since I’ve seen clottey fight i’m thinking it’ll be just like it. Mayweather is a master of defense and surely won’t engage because manny will overwhelm floyd with gazillion punches and only thing floyd can do is duck and hide. It’ll be another boring win for pacquiao. Nah… I just had enough of that. I want fireworks!
Guzz, I’m not black and believe Mayweather is the real deal — fundamentally one of the best boxers of our era. And the “truth is” the reason Floyd keeps getting talked about as an opponent for Manny is because Floyd is THE biggest challenge out there.
“When is he (MP) going to step it up and fight someone really good?”
Barrera 2 times.
Morrales 3 times.
Marquez 2 times.
Hatton 1
Cotto 1
This shouldn’t be asked of MP?
Ask this of Mayweather then compare the answers.
Chris, what had you been inhaling lately, it seems you are really out of touch with reality. Maybe you are an alien that is why you can’t relate to human reality. Another dumb dumb dumb article. At least Pac’s fight is more exciting than your waste of time article. Get a life and kiss your mama and papa so you could be happy for a moment and forget all your hate.
to chris…
your idol floyd isnt at cotto, mosley and margarito’s level. he doesnt even want to fight them. hell, he even avoided clottey.
FLOYD IS JUST OVERRATED BECAUSE OF HIS ROTTEN EGGS, once shane accomplished “may’s first”, floyd is a nobody
I think the only fans who believe on Mayweather are blacks who refuses to accept the truth.Well i got news for you all, YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH………….
Cotto and Judah are garbage I gueess ,yet Floyd avoids these crappy fighters.
Pacquiao is the Fighter of the Decade given to him by BWAA,HBO,ESPN. Sports Illustrated, YAHOO etc. Do you really think you can get those awards fighting stiff? he has beaten six future hall of famers like Morales Barrera. Marquez Delahoya, Hatton and Cotto and you tell me this is easy to do.
Hey Chris, I don’t know if you are blind or you just refused to accept that Mayweather is the one who refused to fight because his big 0 record is on the line not because Pacman is on steroids or any PEDS.Mayweather sr says,the A-meth used by Pacman is used by Philippine Military hundred of yrs ago against the American Military….wow…and this is the guy who started all this unfounded rumors. The truth of the matter is, Sr is pissed off and hates Manny.When Manny send Delahoya to retirement,he lost his chance to earn $2million to train Delahoya for a rematch against Jr. Yeah you heard me he chose money against his own son,that alone shows you how dysfunctional this family is.When Manny destroyed Hatton he hated him even more because his reputation as a trainer was ruined so he started this rumor on Pacman.By the way Pacman said pretty boy better win his fight against sugar shane or else he wi fight Mosley. Now, how can you say that Pacman try to avoid Mosley….Wake up man.
@ goldenboy: get your facts right, pac never fought margarcheato. mayweather has fought all those guys you mentioned minus a damaged cotto. seems your point holds no water clearly, mayweather has fought the “great” fighters of our era as you say.
Alvarez and Berto dont belong in the same ring as pac,at least not yet. The only fights left for him are may and/or ssm.
wow what a ridiculous article.
Don’t worry people none of the writers get paid on this site.
Pacquaio has fought all the great fighters of our era: de la hoya, cotto, hatton, margarito, marquez.
he couldn’t fight chickenweather who is too scared
There are NO-one else that is at Manny’s level at this point…not even Floyd….Floyd is a runner….We Fans want action/blood….
No matter who pac fights they will always be an excuse of why he won!! The media has the fans thinkin that the only fight worth watchin is pac vs floyd when in reality there’s plenty of other stuff goin on in the boxin world!! This mega fight crap has done more damage to boxin then good
When negotiations broke off for the mega fight, Mosley and Berto were still scheduled to fight. For Pac to keep his March 13 date alive he needed to sign a fight and the only other welter available was Clottey.
I guess everyone who chimes in on P4P is an idiot beacause all you guys seem to think they’re tokin’ off the crack pipe.
Manny is the current p4p champ and PBF was before he retired. They need to fight to get it settled.
No one has ever had to do Olympic style blood tests for a fight. So why should the CURRENT champ have to do so. Let alone the the plain fact that Manny can sell out a 51,000 seat stadium and make 15 to 20 million by fighting a turtle.
PBF is only about the money right? Do you think he could have done that?
Pac has crossed over. He’s popular all over the world. He is lauded by true fight fans, fringe fight fans and by people of all races. True he isn’t as good technically, but was Tyson? Did Ali never get hurt? I guess Sugar Ray and Marvelus Marvin and the Hit Man were chumps too? Since when was defense considered being better than offense? Be real guys the best were hit and hit often. In order to hit the chin you must first put yours ot there. No risk no reward right.
True champs put their necks out there and go to battle. They do so and let their gloves do the talking. Historically when boxing was at the top and in the minds of all sports fans, would PBF been the type of champ the public would put on their shoulders?
Please answer honestly, but I know you won’t.
@Fighter
I didn’t say Floyd back out. Sorry for that.
All I want is for them to compromise on whatever terms they will have in their next negotiation. If ever there will be.
I was just wandering if Floyd Sr. didn’t say a word about PEDs on Manny. Maybe, just maybe last weekend’s fight would have been with PAC and May.
“Here’s a query:
We know Manny was given p4p king standings (disputed by many).
He was given this title, without beating the top fighters. Cotto was never #2, ODLH was not #1 or 2 at the time they fought, Clottey…hahaha. sorry, Clottey was not #2, Hatton was certainly not #2, why was manny given such a crown?”
So who do you think will be #1 at the time when Floyd is in retirement?
I know it’s not Pacquiao right? Maybe you should ask the authority who gave Manny the title. If you’re against the rankings.
When can PAC be #1?
Who should he have fought to be #1? (Not only to Pacquiao but those who want to be #1)
I like Floyd inside the ring. His character outside the ring did not change my view of him as an excellent boxer.
Whatever upbringing or environment he had grown with, it must have affected the way he act right now.
I also like Manny both inside and outside the ring.
During his training for Barerra 2, he did train near my house.
Every morning after jogging, he shadow box near my office.
He’s a humble person. It was in Cebu.
I’m a fan of both boxer.
funny how before the fight between ODLH. ODLH was favoured to win with manny the underdog.
fair enough against hatton and clottey manny had the edge.
but to say cotto was an uneven matchup is ridiculous. at the time cotto was the wbo champ. so what manny was supposed to pick a fight between mosley instead of the wbo champ cotto?
all i hear is a bunch of excuses after the fight from whiny people. the boxers choose to come in the ring with those conditions win or lose. thats whats so good about boxing and what everyone is forgetting. the boxers dont need you making excuses for them or are asking you to.
people you guys keep talking about a mayweather fight. if that lil punk roid boy manny would have man up we would have had a fight .. how can you agreed to blood testing and then back out of it ,if pbf agreed to all of your demands whats wrong with making sure everything is on the up and up. but if i have something hide and i know that im on that shit, then im NOT going to take the test.. thats why he fought jc in texas because theres NO blood testing. what a joke pacroid is…
Tiger…..what did you just say? Mayweather fight someone good? Are you forgetting fighters on his CV, he’s beat 13 world champions, won 6 world titles and he’s fighting the most dangerous fighter who can challenge him on May 1st. Look at calibre of fighters Floyd has beat for the last 10 years and look at the calibre of Pacquiao’s fighters the last 10 years. Then say something you retard.
gar /how can fm be # 3 ww he hasent fought a welter weight yet .fm talked his way through the ww division .if cotto and clottey are easy fights then why didnt fm fight them both .clottey would make fm look bad and has a chance at beating fm .
this thred should read when is floyed mayweather going to fight some one whos good !
@Fighter
How long has Manny fought at Welterweight? And who has he fought in his first few matches?
How long has Mayweather been able to fight at Welterweight? Who has he fought in his time there? Why did he have to get cornered in order to fight Mosley?
Manny has proven to most, even himself, that he can succeed and even dominate at the bigger weight. His confidence grows with every fight.
Do you think two years ago Manny and Roach would have even dreamed of fighting Clottey? I don’t think Floyd even wanted anything to do with Joshua. Not enough reward for the risk.
…ryan
@ Richard and other tards
mayweather is not offensive enough huh to beat pac ?? floyd would not fight like clottey.. he would actually fight back !! look at pacs face after clottey, just imagine what floyd would do to him !! jmm beat manny twice, (dont care what bobs judges wrote on the card) and floyd desrtoyed jmm.. it will be the same thing to a degree with floyd and manny..manny will tire out fast because he swinging at air !! floyd will make a statement in his fight with shane and manny..its easy to throw and land tons of punches when all you fight are statues !! after mayweather pacaiuo this fall, pac-mania will be finished for good…
@Manny Sings
That’s very creative! Props to you! I liked it
Bill B. He said it clearly. Mosley, Berto. Pretty much anybody with speed, and lateral movement. I would say Colazzo, Gamboa, Martinez, Williams. The reason, is that they all have something Manny’s taylor made opponents did’nt have; Speed, lateral movement, head movement, and combinations. It also helps that none of them have suffered devistating losses, or are old, or are flatfooted, or are extremely slow.
Hey Sporty. How did Manny get to be the #1 p4p, if he never beat the supposed next best, which would be Mosley or Mayweather, #’s 3 & 2 respectively? He beat unranked, or poorly ranked, or easy to beat fighters. But somehow, the corrupt powers that be gave him such a crown.
THANK YOU CHRIS WILLIAMS!!! PLEASE, keep putting the obvious truth out there. I, and many other have been making this argument for a while. PLEASE try and get this argument to be published at a higher leve, so that all the novices in the sport, who know little to nothing about the sport can be educated, and so that justice can be done. Thank you again, it could not have been said better, or more clear. Nicely done!
@Perry. Floyd did’nt back away from negotiations, it was the fearless warrior, Manny who is afraid of a needle.
Here’s a query:
We know Manny was given p4p king standings (disputed by many).
He was given this title, without beating the top fighters. Cotto was never #2, ODLH was not #1 or 2 at the time they fought, Clottey…hahaha. sorry, Clottey was not #2, Hatton was certainly not #2, why was manny given such a crown?
Here’s the question: Unless there’s a draw in the Mosley Mayweather fight, should one of them be crowned the p4p king, since they will have beaten the # 2 or # 3 boxer in the world?
@ manny sings
clap clap clap bravo!!!!!!!
When Manny won against Cotto, there were talks that it will be Floyd’s turn with Manny. But, Floyd said that Manny didn’t Call Him Out. Now Manny wins over Clottey, Floyd has been Called Out. Hope they will agree/compromise on terms.
They asked you if you’ll fight me
And you choked on your reply
I’d rather Arum deal with you
Than mislead you with a lie
And who am I to judge you,
On what you say or do
The fans are now beginning
To see the real you…
And someday when we tats
My LEFT will be too much
That you have to close your eyes
Where do you hide?
I wanna pound you til you’re white
‘Til your face breaks down and cry
I wanna beat you
‘Til you dream and say, goodnight.
You think you are a strategist
That you can insult my pride
But through your insecurities
You’re ZERO loss seemed right
You’re just another fighter
So far from what is true
An overrated boxer
Who never gives his due
And someday when we tats
My RIGHT will be too much
That you have to close your eyes
Where do you hide?
I wanna pound you til you’re white
‘Til your face breaks down and cry
I wanna beat you
‘Til you dream and say, goodnight.
At times I’d like to break you
And drive you to your knees
The fans would like to watch you
And see your first defeat
Your huggers understand you
And we know how hard they try
I’ve watched your Dad protect you
And your Uncle loves to smile
My coach thinks your a loser
Still searching for a break
You think your odds are better
But then the public bets AGAINST!
And someday when we tats
My SPEED will be too much
That you have to close your eyes
Where can you hide?
I wanna pound you til you’re white
‘Til your face breaks down and cry
I wanna beat you
‘Til you dream and say, goodniiiiiiigggghhhhhttttt!
I think we can all agree that the top three Welterweights at this time are:
1 Paquiao
2 Mayweather
3 Mosley
You can argue not in that order and hopefully they all face each other so we find out but why does everyone keep bringing up Paul Williams all the time when none of the above have faced him?
Last time I checked he has moved up to the Middle Weight division, yes he is an excellent boxer and has been something of an avoided man at Welterweight but if he did get back down to 147 now and got beaten badly by any of the above the excuses would be flooding in about how he is dead at the weight which he probably would be!!!
Pacquaio beat those fighters because they were tailor-made for him to stand toe-to-toe. So can we all say too that Mayweather beat all his opponents because they were tailor-made for him to slug him while he backtracks.
This premise is pathetic to pretend you’re an expert. Pacquiao fights anyone who he “thinks” can give a good show. If he had not fought DLH, he has no problems fighting those you mentioned.
Let’s face it, any fighters who hasn’t fought DLH very well would just be an ordinary fighter no matter how prolific he is.
Mayweather & Pacquaio got their PPV soaring when they fought DLH fight. Not any of these two are the PPV star but DLH. A win against DLH got their status in higher level. And we can’t blame them if they chose to pick fights that really sell now.
If you’re just starting to make a name for yourself like Berto & Alvarez, chances are you’ll be overlooked at this point unless you hold the belt.
Mayweather & Pacquiao are now near at the end of their career so they deserve to get a payday.
I just hope that when they do finally hang their gloves, they make 1 last fight against any promising young fighters out there just like what DLH did for them.
if you are the number 1, nobody will look good against you… what about that?!
not enough time to read all the hate but PAC doesnt have anyone to fight besides PBF.Same with PBF as of MAY2(no disrespect to Mosley) but besides that fight, the only match we(da FANS) might b interested in is PBF/PAC vs PWill or to a lesser extent Berto.
Can anybody say “FIXED”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, who won the fight????? I fell asleep.
Chris,
Who would you consider really good? Manny has come up in weight and has always been the smaller fighter since he has. Who would you suggest he fight aside from Floyd, in you expert opinion? Please explain why.
Lol funny that manny rules
How long has Manny been in the Welterweight division?
How long has Floyd been in the welterweight division?
Who has fought who?
thank you, end of story.
LOL, your poor bull testicle eating big headed roid swallowing p4p, couldn’t even knock out a dude with diarrhea!
I hadn’t seen any p4p so critiziced ever, it must suck to be at the “top” and not have any of your fights recognized by a huge portion of the fans, that’s what you get for cherrypicking and fighting old people, can’t wait for him to go into politics, or to actually agree to random blood tests, i am sure he will get more fights against irrelevant oponents that ask no tests from him, but the “spectacle” will be the boring same “i’m here for the paycheck” maybe that’s why HBO didn’t make a 24/7 for this lame fight, i’m sorry for the ones who actually paid to see that crap they are calling a fight, sh1t, even espn’s lame ass friday night card was more entertaining!.
@tyler i agrees totally
i watched the pbf vs mayweather just to confirm that if zab judah has the stamina he will win the fight. After 2nd round i got dozed off too.
It would have been interesting but when you said Pacquiao has no chance with Alvarez, that right there says it all. Miguel Cotto would walk through this guy.
Pacquiao Mosley is a great match. Pacquiao Mayweather would define who’s the best. Pacquiao Berto would be interesting.
Pacquiao Alvarez is a stupid mistake.
Floyd chickenfeather is more yellow than the simpsons lol
Floyd Ghettoweather is scared to fight Manny. Forget about all the blood testing. It was simply an accuse. If Manny beats Ghettoweather, Manny could be required to be blood tested. If he tests positive for roids, Manny victory is taken away. Remember the Floyd/Oscar fight. Yah…..Floyd won……Right? I disagree but that what the judges decided evan though Ghettoweater did lots of running. Look what Manny did to Oscar. I think he is a far better fighter know. Conclusion……Manny would whoop dat ***!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. Williams,
It was a boring fight i have to agree only if you when to see JC.
If you think that Pac. has not fight some one good you are very wrong and you are not given credit to the other fighters like Miguel C. sure he lost his fight against Margarito but that’s not clear du to Margarito’s cheating ways, Miguel C. is a good boxer and in my eyes he was a good match for Pac. Now on the other side witch good boxer has PBF. face in the Welter W.D. not one!!!, if you compare from PBF and Pac. you will see that the one that has always have Tailor made fighter is PBF even on hes past fights, at list Pac has fight good boxers that really were up to the same quality and level like Juan M.M., Eric M.
What have you done for Pac. up in the ring? Please, when you try to answer this ? think before, and see what Pac has done for you?
remember that question of who was first? the chicken or the egg? With out the boxers you can not write.
Patpump-
Are you saying Manny will duck Mosely? I don’t think so. If Mosely beats Mayweather and thats a HUGE if, I believe Manny will Mosely.
Ares, I agree. You can be a fan of either fighter and debate. Mario, who posted earlier is an example of that. He hopes Mayweather gets knocked out, but he knows as a true boxing fan you have to give a good fighter his due. You can’t let this stuff get too personal. Wowza is one of those true boxing fans as well.
diaz – boxed out
de la hoya – moved out
hatton – knocked out
cotto – danced out
mayweather – chickened out
who elese is there for him to step up?
to all maylovers:
you can never see your man whip pac’s ass; as Al Haymon hinted floyd vs pac will never happen. why? ask Haymon, he knows long way before.
Pacquiao is fighting the best, I really don’t think Mayweather is gonna get by Mosley, if he does he will not fight Manny. When there was big talk about a fight between Pac and PBF I knew it would never happen. Mosley is a hard payday for anybody, How bout Kahn, he’s talking about beating everyone, but he wont beat Paulie, so it will be Pac vs Paulie next…….like it or not.
BTW I’m not knocking Manny. I just happen to think Mayweather will whip his ass. That’s my opinion. Until the fight happens no one really knows. All we do know is its probably going to be one hellava fight no matter who wins. That’s all.
my posts dont seem to be getting through. thanks wowzabean, your the kind of pac fan i like discussing/debating with
Red dog we will see. We definitely will see.
You copy a number of writers who knock Manny no matter what he does. You all sound like you work for Mayweather. You say stupid crap like Mayweather would kill Manny and Manny does not want to fight Mayweather. I, for one, have never seen Mayweather kill anyone that had any skill at all. Clotty
chose not to throw punches. He knew he would get hurt more lowering his hands to throw punches. There is always a style and fighter out there that can take a fight from anyone on a given night. Mayweather is not offensive enough to hold off Manny. Maybe someone can stop him, but it is not Mayweather.
redog
WoWza, No doubt bro Shane is going to bring it. He always does. Floyd has no choice but to exchange with hime and he will. This will not be boring as some of the guys here think. I think this fight will be action packed because these guys really don’t like each other. Man, if Pacman vs Floyd happen, that will be action packed as well because of all the accusations and animosity between camps and trainers. Boy boy boy. Boxiing in 2010 could be great. I can’t wait!
Hopefully these greedy ass Promoters don’t spoil things!
@ oliver etor
im sick of people like you posting things like KFC and mayweather and childish siht like that. please, if you’ve got something intelligent to say then by all means express your piont of view, but if kfc and mayweather is all you got just stop posting, its really annoying. i don’t mind having discussions and debates with pac fans like wowzabean who seem intelligent and have good boxing knowledge but people like you drive me up the wall. I almost want pac to lose so the so-called fans like yourself dissappear from these kind of boards.
Yeah, and to you writer, when are you gonna ask your sissy Floyd to step up and fight Pacquiao who is really good?
@dbeals
Yeah, I dare you to do the same.
Maywhether can bring all his defensive tools in the fight with Pac, but once he sees the freak of nature in front of him and Pac unleashes his power, maywhether would run like a chicken without a head.
Just a friendly advice, bring a lot of Kleenex with you when you watch the fight, you’ll need it.
dbeals,
One thing we can agree on, I hope the fight happens. That being said, I’ve posted several times I think Floyd will take the fight. However, if you think he’ll walk away “pretty” just wait till the Mosley fight and see what happens. I have Floyd by UD, but the boy is gonna get bumps and bruises. Pretty will be covering up w/make up for days.
Oliver, I’m a Pacfan, but don’t attack ares. He hasn’t said anything out of line, we’re simply debating.
@ares
What expose expose you are talking about? Are you trying to say Badweather did help Manny strategically in his fight against Hatton? Why, you’re so petty and small. Manny is pure power and speed and Mayweather is just defense and girly, short punches
This writer must be asleep the past few months and didn’t wake up till last Saturday. How is Manny gonna fight Berto or Mosely when they had a scheduled fight when Clottey was picked after Floyd ducked Manny. Moron.
Shane will whoop Floyds sorry @$$….
Pacman will whoop Floyds sorry @$$….
Can’t wait on May 1.
lol @ Chris Williams
Manny Pacquiao is number 1 at Welterweight Division. next to him in the list are Mosley, Mayweather, Cotto, Berto, Clottey…
he already stepped up and fought good boxers.
a fight with Mayweather and Mosley is possible. Pacquiao said himself he wanted to fight them.
I’m just wondering if clottey is fighting Floyd last weekend, insted of pacman… What ya’ll think happend????..
Saul Alvarez? who is he? he is NOT even in the top 10 WW… is this another hater blogger?
We can go back and forth from now until they actually meet in the ring. I really believe this fight will happen. Please after Mayweather whips Manny’s a$$, don’t you guys disappear from the blogs and don’t come back with a bunch of lame excuses like Pacman was too small for Mayweather and all that BS. I promise you I will be here win or lose with no excuses. First I will watch him whip the $hit out of shane on May 1.
Peace!
This writer will never be impressed with Pacquiao. Even if he defeats the winner of the Mayweather and Mosley fight, he will always try to find a reason why Pacquiao won (other than being a great boxer). Fortunately, the real boxing experts, which is the Boxing Writers’ Association of America, have recognized Pacquiao’s greatness by bestowing on him the title “Boxer of the Decade”, a title which I think Mayweather, the idol of this writer and Lahr, Garduno and Manuel Perez (where is he now?) can never achieve since he is now in the twilight of his boxing career.
@ wowzabean
no doubt pac beat hatton in more spectacular fashion, but AFTER floyd exposed him
ares,
Absolutely Hatton was undefeated. At 140, the weight that Pacquiao beat him. By beat I mean 2nd round KO. Not taking it away from Floyd, he got the first W, but Pacquiao did it at a better weight and fashion.
@ ares,
tell your chicken to face pac,pac is willing to fight everywhere and anywhere…..or you better caters KFC…..and besides the latest fight between pac-clottey is for clottey’s chances to grab the title and for pac to defend…who is cheery picking here….
@ wowzabean
hatton b4 he fought may was thought of as the only guy that could beat may at the time. he was undefeated and at the top of his game. As for margarito, im pretty sure he took the baldomir fight instead of judah as you say. Granted i think marg would beat the siht out of baldomir and been a tougher fight for may but he did hold the WBC title at the time.
Marcos-
Floyd Sr started all that PEDs BS after the Hatton fight I believe. The rest of the team jumped on the same wagon.
mayweather vs clottey, that will be the end of boxing. after 12 rounds mayweather thrown punch 72 clottey 69. lol.
@dbeals
Bro what are you talking about? Who´s talking about paying? You make ridiculous comments like Pacman is like Arturo Gatti and that you can´t win a fight by running. You should see if they have any openings on this site to write more garbage because nothing you say has any point.
The Clottey fight puzzles you? It´s simple, read Clotteys own words, he said Pac was too fast for him, he couldn´t come out of the clamshell because he didn´t want to get lit up. it´s pretty simple, play defense, don´t expose yourself to getting pummeled, collect your $3 million and go home. The only thing Clottey wanted to do in this fight, which he did achieve, was to not become the next Manny Pacquiao highlight victim.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHY FLOYD JR WANTS PACMAN SPECIAL DRUG TEST, MAYBE FLOYD SR SCARED HIS SON TO WATCH IT, BECAUSE THE WAY PACMAN FIGHT “LOOKS LIKE PACMAN IS ON DRUGS” AND FLOYD JR BELIEVES HE IS PROBABLY ON DRUGS. DID FLOYD JR/SR REQUIRED HIS PREVIOUS OPPONENTS WITH SPECIAL DRUG TEST? TO ALL WHO MAKE COMMENTS PEACE!!! BE FAIR !!! YOU ARE ALL EXPERT.. YOU THINK..?
HAVE A NICE DAY….
Yeah, that’s right Mayweather is smart and can figure out alot of boxers. But wait till he meets the freak of nature. After fight night, you all Mayweather fans will be humbled and shout “Hail to the King of Boxing – Pacquiaaaaoooooo!”
Clottey was never in trouble? The guy had no opportunity to open up to give a punch because he was afraid of getting KOd.
Really-
I have a easy fix for you. Don’t pay to watch.
Easy fight for Pacman? There is nothig easy about Mayweather or Mosely. We will never know what was in Clottey’s head but I doubt is was fear. Pacman look like he was hitting a brick wall. No effect. This is what puzzles me about that fight. Clottey was never in trouble or hurt.
@dbeals
¨how can you run and win fights? Not possible.¨
Really?? That´s exactly Maychickens strategy in every fight, hit and run and run and run, never will he be involved in an exchange, he´s too scared for that.
ares,
Mayweather isn’t any better if you want to go that route. Bringing little guys up in weight (Hatton/Marquez) and taking a two year retirement so you wouldn’t have to face prime welters. Taking a Judah fight when Margarito had 8 mill on the table.
Tyler,
The amount of irony in Floyd’s statement is too much. This dude is straight delusional. After round 3 of the JMM fight I was passed out from drinking, and his ODLH fight was probably the most hyped/boring fight for the record it set. Last I checked Pacquiao never got booed for lack of engaging.
sorry williams so as to lahr & fugate, garduno beat you to it..
he already posted his blog about mayweathers’ recent comments about pacquiao.
good luck next time
@dbeals
¨how can you run and win fights? Not possible.¨
Really, watch every one of mayweathers fights, all he does is run, he´s like a marathon runner with boxing gloves.
floyd style is just perfect for paquiao, because that’s what exactly paquiao want. the one who will counter punch him. it will be easy win for paquiao. that’s the reason why clottey was so scared to open up.
pacs cherrypicking started alot earlier than diaz, delahoya, hatton, cotto, clottey. he fought morales coming off a loss to barrera, then fought morales again coming off a loss to rahim, fought larios after he lost to vasquez, then morales again after he lost to barrera, then fought bbarrera after he was schooled by marquez. then we get diaz, odlh, hatton, cooto and clottey who were either drained(odlh), shot(cotto, hatton) or straight ahead plodders(clottey, diaz) Bag the writer all you want but facts are facts. the only quality guy he fought coming off a string of wins was marquez, who gave pac a heap of problems.
FYI mr so called boxing expert pacquiao was picked for De La hoya, not the other way around. Why all this hate for manny to me he is a guy who you can root for. He likes to be in though fights, gets amped up when he gets hit and knocks people out, what is so worng with that. Granted since his move up in weight his fights haven’t been as exciting as when he was going to war with the mexican legends. Give the man some kinda credit for doing what he has to do and giving us some highlight reel footage in the process.
I never said Mayweather would knock him out. I said he will not be able to see. Mayweather is slightly taller, longer reach, just as fast if not faster, superb defense and offense, excellent in and out side to side movement. This is the wrong fighter for Pacman to fight. Period. I can’t wait for this fight to happen and it will happen.
wowzabean,
money being money again said some nasty things but this one caught me made me laugh and gave me some stomach cramps
“I think Pacquiao gave the fans a boring fight, he was punching his arms for all 12 rounds. At least when you watch Floyd Mayweather you know you’ll be seeing non-stop action for 30 minutes straight and that’s what you’ll see on May 1st”
non-stop action my a*z,, i once watched one of his fights sitting on a sofa then the missus found me dozed off after 2 rounds. thats how exciting this guy is.
i hope i didnt piss off the IDIOT brigade by posting this ..lmao.
sorry but pacquiao can take a punch….mayweather cant,,,,prbably mayweather need only one punch from pacquiao for lullaby…..one punch and then cry
Bill how can you run and win fights? Not possible.
WoWza- Who’s arguing? Not me. Pacman does have a big head. Easier to hit. Really.
pacquiao will ko mayweather with one punch……………bam bam bam….boom boom boom bang bang!!!! ha ha ha ha ha
HA!
WHO WOULDNT GET MADE AT A COWARD WHO RUNS AROUND A BOXING RING HOPING TO HEAR THE BELL……MAYWEATHER BARELY EDGED DE LA HOYA AND MOST STILL THOUGH DE LA HOYA WON.
Pacman will get frustrated as hell fighting Mayweather and then that’s when the fight will be over. He will get wild.
dbeals,
Sorry for responding to you, didn’t know I’d get in an argument w/a 12 year old. Ignore my last post please.
bbwoof…….
Nevermind.
Ryan, they do the same thing with Mayweather. The only difference is Mayweather brings most of it on himself. Hate means nothing because usually the person you hate don’t know it and if he does he most likely won’t give $h1t
MAYWETHER WILL BE TO MUCH OF A PUSS TO EVEN EXCHANGE WITH PACS NON STOP PUNISHING PRESURE, C’ON THE GUY HAS POWER IN BOTH HANDS AND EVEN THOUGH PAC IS THE SMALLER GUY HE IS STILL THE HARDER HITTER COMPARED TO MAYWEATHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@dbeals
Are you seriously comparing Gatti to Pacquiao? Gatti was about a thousand times slower than Pac on his best day. That´s about the most retarded comparison I´ve heard in awhile.
Let´s look at the facts: De la Hoya beats Gatti by TKO in the 5th and Gayweather beats Gatti by TKO in the 6th. Pacquiao makes DLH quit. Where is your logic that Pac is like Gatti. Are you related to the author?
Ironically, besides my own articles and maybe one or two others, this website is overwhelmingly “unimpressed” by all things Pacquiao.
Hate all you want, but Manny is Fighter of the Decade and all you guys can do is hate. It’s mildly pathetic that you won’t give this phenomenon his due. You grab at straws to discredit anything he does.
I mean, you’re entitled to your opinion, but at some point it becomes tiresome, annoying, and borderline bone headed.
…ryan
Pacman will be just as easy to hit as Gatti. Probably easier because of his big a$$ head.
On March 10, you wrote – “Clottey is arguably tougher than Pacquiao’s last three opponents Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya and Miguel Cotto, so any success that Pacquiao has had before will be essentially meaningless in this fight. Clottey is a whole different fighter than those three that Pacquiao was able to take out.”
So now you’re saying that you dont agree with what you wrote before?
Hmmm… so difficult to please everyone.
dbeals,
So you’re comparing Pacquiao to Gatti? Gatti who was old and past his prime and clearly a “paper champion” (Mayweather’s words). Pacquiao is in his prime man, try again. Plus that was back in the day when Mayweather had the balls to engage, that Floyd is long dead since money and his goose egg has become the higher priority.
Tyler,
What did Floyd say?
ANOTHER SPIN DOCTOR PAID BY GOLDEN BOY! SAUL ALVAREZ MY ARSE!
ROCKY 0639, AT LEAST YOU KNOW WHATS UP.
PAC MAN MADE THE OPPONENTS THAT MAYWEATHER COULD NOT KNOCK OUT
LOOK HORRIBLE/AMATURE LIKE!
I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT PAC IS THE GREATEST FIGHTER WHO EVER LIVED, NOT JUST IN THE RING BUT ALL IN ONE GOOD PERSON.
Paul Williams has no defense. He gets hit way too much for a fighter with his size and reach. He needs a new trainer.
to all,
watch out for the next blog post on this site coming very SOON,,
topic will be about mayweather jr’s latest comments about pacquiao.
i bet one cajone that the blog’s author will either be fugate, lahr, garduno or williams (the IDIOT brigade)
theyre dying to beat each other out and be first to post that one.
Lmao omg man PAC haters just can’t stop huh??? Man mayweather this is his first good fighter in a lOOOOOOOOOng time so uh tesla PAC has been fighting the best in the world and he had loses and that don’t mean shh alot of great world class hall of fame fighters had losses to so mayweather fans can’t say shh
but PAC is great and he called out floyd so just drop the shit Floyd and fight PAC
Manny will never fight a good opponent BECAUSE HE ALWAYS MAKES
THEM LOOK BAD, MR.WILLIAMS…. You got that!
You want to know how a Pacman vs Mayweather will turn out? Go back and watch Mayweather vs Gatti. There you have it. They will stop the fight because Pacman will not be able to see. Remember what I said.
PAUL WILLIAMS???HA
SERGIO MARTINEZ TORE HIM UP!
THAT GOOFY SHAPED PW IS WEAK.
the guy obviously wants to name oppponents for pacquiao since most of the best on the 7 divisions he was in has been all been defeated. so questioning him when he is going to fight the best only shows the author does not like pacquiao. even if pacquiao defeats the names he mentioned the list will continue until he can say “you see this guy can beat pacquiao”. to bad pacquiao is near his retirement and the author will be left dreaming that somebody has to defeat the pacman. the author forgot to put his name or monicker so as not to trace when pacquiao beats the guy he mentioned he can create another blog saying another boxer can beat pacquiao…
* mayweather decisions de la hoya, pacquiao beets him bad
* mayweather knocks haton in round 10, pacquiao puts him to sleep in the second round
* mayweather avoids cotto, pacquiao beats him bad
* mosly lost to cotto, pacquiao knocks cotto
you are running out of excuses man. you have one more left if pacquiao will fight once more either to mosley or mayweather. after that the only thing i can say is “keep on dreaming for the rest of your life…”
cheers
STUPID IDIOT!!!
YOU KNOW NO MORE ABOUT BOXING THAN A JOE SHMO OFF THE STREET.
MAYWEATHER IS THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO FACE REAL FIGHTERS!
Paul williams
tyler,
Actually Williams predicted it would be an easy win as Clottey would cover up all night and not throw enough punches. And thats exactly what happened.
EVERYONE GET READY FOR PACQUIAO-CASTILLO! Its coming this fall!
hey williams you even had your blog posted all in “bold” letters, just like your “bold” predictions about pacquiao losing, and your “bold” attempts to discredit pac’s achievements ,, well now guess i can call you “bold and stupid”
Why don’t you say the same thing about Mayweather? Mosley is the first real challenge he has fought in a long time. Floyd only took that fight because he would have looked like a major ducker if he chose to fight someone like Malignaggi instead. Mayweather hasn’t fought Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, or Paul Williams despite being a welterweight for a long time now. Instead Floyd fought the weaker Hatton and Marquez in his last two fight instead of taking on legitimate challengers. Both Cotto and Clottey would defeat Marquez.
Dave Lahr and Esteban Garduno from this site both predicted Pacquiao would be torn apart by the bigger and stronger Clottey.
never
I don’t think Chris will be happy till Pacquiao picks away at the Klitchkos. Even then he’ll probably b!tch about a 2lb catch weight.
Twice with Marques, 3x with Morales, 2x with Barrera and and whole bunch in the middle including the younger and heavier Cotto and Hatton, Seven titles across 7-8 weight divisions more than 50 fights most of them all out entertaining brawls… Fight someone really good ??? Look at the tapes !!!! He can only get to them one at a time.. Mayweather next?? Hope so…Win or loose it will be fun to watch…Less Mayweather does a somewhat Clottey imitation.
some1 good???!!!! r u kidding me??? u sir obviously talk through ignorance and emotion. but with boxing knowledge? not 1 drop of it.. pac has engaged with the best of his era!!! i can think of only 1!!!!! tune-up he has had,, david diaz @ 135lbs. n the rest were all more than good & very credible!!!!
Sorry my friend, Pacquiao probably has retired with all his million dollars before any of your wishes could ever happen. Why don’t you try the promoting business, maybe you can get a good shot of seeing at least one of them. But then if whining is all your luxury, you have all the time.
Adios amigo.
Step up? how many times does he have to move up in weight class? When your the best theres always haters thinking you dont do enough. Who has Floyd faught that has any challenge for him. If there is someone picking his opponents its Scarry May. The ranking are the rankings, surely hes is not going to fight someone ranked 25, think about it. Hater
I really hope this clown doesn’t get paid to write. He’s been on a 48 hr Pacquiao hate bender since Manny did his thing in front of 51,000 (most to see a boxing match in 2 decades) and tens of millions all over the world. KEEP HATING. Hahahaha.
Short answer, Never!.
He will continue to pick the losers, the drained, and old people to fight, p4p yeah right.
and the reason why he is in the mixed with those welterweights is because theres not enough challenge in his own division for him? did you see how small he was compared to clottey? you’re stupid chris williams!!!
williams still cryin like a baby? no one cares if you were impressed or not by pacquiaos performance. youre a nobody just an internet blogger hoping to piss pactards out there, so shut your pie hole and blog about somethin else.
Alvarez and Berto beat Pacquiao? I don’t know what you’re smoking but pass it over here. If Mosley can take care of business May 1st, a fight is likely. Mayweather threw in a stipulation that in case of a loss he’d have an automatic rematch. If Mosley then wins that fight, a Pac/Mosley isn’t too far away. Mosley doesn’t have the ego Floyd does and I see a fight w/them taking place.
That being said Shane and Floyd are the only people left for Pac to fight. Bringing up other names would just be absurd. Your implications that Pacquiao has something to prove still (other than fighting Floyd/Shane) is a joke. The guy has dug his trenches. Floyd could face Pac all the same. Since Arum and Mayweather are fighting like school girls trying to see who has the bigger swinging d!ck, I don’t see that fight being made.
so cotto was tailor made for pacquiao? when do you pac haters run out of excuses???
I’m tired of hearing manny fans saying he is faster then mayweather.Manny is fast but he aint faster then mayweather. manny just throws 3 to 4 hit combos.mayweather can dat 2 but hes smart enough to do that cause thats when you can lose your guard and get caught which is mannys’ flaw. BUT IF MAYWEATHER hurts you he will combo that a$$.you need to look up when 4 pieced ndou with straight right hands to knock him out.I AIN’t no hater, i like manny but if you like boxing you can be one sided and act like mayweather is sorry.ITS not often when you see a all around boxer like mayweather OR its not often you see a slugger like manny.BUT to me ithink the all around boxer in mayweather will win cause he’s smart and can figure out alot of boxers.Thats why this match would be 1 of the greatest fights ever.If i’m manny i would try to knock him out in the first 2 to 3 rounds cause mayweather will figure him out.