Pacquiao vs. Mayweather: Why Can’t Fighters Just Fight?
March 16th, 2010
By Rod Bautista: I remember when fighters were fighters. Remember that? Guys would call each other out and rag on each other because in the end they were going to put their money and their fists behind all the words they were saying.
Sure Muhammad Ali would wax poetic about how pretty he was and how ugly his opponents were. He even punched out a stuffed gorilla pretending it was Joe Frazier. Regardless of what he did or said at the end of the day Ali was a fighter and he went into the ring and took care of his business. Whether he floated like a butterfly or stung like a bee Ali was always up for a fight.
Today we are blessed with two of the greatest fighters of our generation. Hell it could be said that with the wealth of talent fighting around the Welterweight division that we could have the quality of fights that were abundant in the 80’s. With the likes of Berto, Valero, Marquez, Cotto, Williams, Clottey, Mosley and of course Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao, we could have a plethora of quality fights culminating in the crowning of the true Pound For Pound Champion of The World.
This sadly is not the case.
Boxers are business men first, more interested in the path of least resistance for maximum pay rather than paying dues and working through the ranks and earning your shot.
Boxing unfortunately has as much relevance in today’s society as the Biathlon, and Australian Rules Football. Okay maybe not to that extreme. The average sports fan on the street can probably name more NASCAR drivers than relevant boxers. It’s sad, but it’s true. MMA and the UFC have pretty much filled the void that Boxing left, while Boxing continually shoots itself in the foot.
Why? Is MMA better? Is MMA more exciting? It’s because no matter whom you are and where you’ve been, in MMA you have to face the best to be considered the best. That is the bottom line, and the youth and that ever so coveted demographic of the 18 to 35 year old male have taken notice. Hell even women find MMA fighters sexy, with their cauliflower ears and their broken crooked noses. MMA and the UFC is very much main stream and boxing sadly is a foot note.
In comes Manny Pacquiao, a fighter from a modest past and a modest third world country known more for Karaoke lovers and bad singers. He represents what boxing used to be, a fighter who not only comes in to the ring to win, but to destroy his opponent. He is a throw back to the olden days where boxers spoke with their fists. Hell he can barely speak English, yet he has captured the world’s imagination. He has graced the cover of Time magazine and been on late night network TV, even Good Morning America.
Saturday night Manny Pacquiao sold out Cowboys Stadium. That’s by himself folks. It is estimated that PPV numbers will be around the 700,000 mark.
Boxing is at a point where it might be able to become relevant again. Can it get over itself to take advantage of it? We have the current Pound For Pound Champ and the current #2 ranked fighter and former Pound For Pound Champ. One keeps talking and won’t shut up and the other one is running for congress in his home country.
They need to just shut up and fight. Then the winner needs to fight Sugar Shane and then Andre Berto, and then Paul Williams, and then Edwin Valero and so on and so on. Boxing can be great again. Boxing can be more relevant than two half naked guys rolling over each other in a cage. Boxing is and always has been the Sweet Science, it just needs to find its way again. The fighters just need to fight and quit being what their not.
Floyd you aren’t the second coming of Ali, and Manny you aren’t Obama or Michael Buble. You’re the greatest fighters of this generation, and you need each other to be considered one of the best of all timet. So for boxing and all the boxing fans around the world: JUST SHUT UP AND FIGHT!
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@bra-buster
The more effeminate thing is when a boxer (who’s bigger, longer reach, and once claimed he is the best boxer ever) accuses another boxer of using performance enhancing drug before an already scheduled fight. It’s like a guy telling a girt he is courting that the other suitor is a cheater without any proof just so he could eliminate competition.
PBF won’t fight Pacman.
PBF was no.1 P4P boxes at one time, and Pacman was no.2. PBF decided to “retire” early because he saw what was coming.
What is the reason he wants the olympic style testing? Is that an admission that he sees Pacman as stronger? weird stronger? but still… stronger? What if Pacman concedes and they find nothing, will that take the fear away? Will the result be any different if they do the “24 days before and immediately after the fight” blood testing that Roach was offering? Has anyone in professional boxing ever suggested something like this against his opponent?
Maybe PBF will fight Pacman someday, when the Pac’s older and badly beaten up, but not soon.
any person that says a fighter is scared of another fighter is not and never will be a true boxing fan.. it is a ignorant comment to make.. perhaps you cant think of any thing else to say !! simply jumping on the pacaiuo bandwagon (pactard) doesnt make you a real boxing fan.. you dont fight for 10 or 20 years and become scared.. boxing will always be a buisness first.. if some fighters are bypassed its NOT because some one is scared its usually because of a buisness decision.. perhaps a certain fighter has limited marketability..i cant wait until pac-mania is over!! pac obviously just wants a steady flow of top rank tomato cans !! pac will prob. fight margarito next, cause its another easy win !!
Wow, best article I’ve read on this site- I completely agree with all your points.
I want to see the fight. Could be epic. Could be a letdown. Boxing should come up with a scene where the winner takes all the money. Maybe that would motivate Wayweather for the money. Isnt his nickname Money?
When I watched Jamie foxx interview with Mayweather, Floyd was telling people the fight between him and Pacquiao will never happen. So people quit dreaming the fight is going to happen. Floyd is scared like hell.
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@wowzabean
Okay let me ask you.. Could a conjecture be that Floyd thinks Pacquaio is not clean because of his stamina while jumping weights (possible EPO), yet he still see’s he is lacking defence (hence him saying he is an easy win)? Would that be considered a no brainer? I mean it makes sense doesnt it? Since I see a lot of people thinking Floyd will try to tire Pacquaio out with his defense and attack later in the fight, wouldnt it make sense for him to make sure his stamina is all due to his legit training? Pacquaio wants to insure Mayweather doesnt come in overweight. Mayweather wants to insure Pacquaio’s stamina is from hard work only. Can you please address this? I see nothing bias in what I wrote, but if I did please point it out.
wow,
I don’t bash Mayweather. It’s not an excuse it’s a conjecture. Bigger purse, better fight, larger effect on legacy. To me it’s a no brainer.
JesusJones,
I saw that, w/Mike Wilbon right? It was funny. Especially, that last comment, I don’t think Floyd caught it tho, lol.
Fight is not going to happen. It’s written all over Floyd’s face. These guys had a great time mocking and playing with Floyd Jr. A total disrespect and played with him like a child. This is just fitting, “Treat others like the way you want to be treated”. Can’t wait to hear the Floyd ‘Tricks’ defend him on this one.
ESPN ‘Good Five Minutes With Floyd Mayweather’ interview.
ESPN: “Come on, Floyd just say just say PACQUIAO just say the word PACQUIAO”….
Floyd: “Mosley”
ESPN: ( Laughing Out loud ) “He’s good, he’s good at ducking and dodging”…….
LOVED IT, IT WAS A TOTAL DISRESPECT.
Well to all the Roach ducking Mosley etc. I think the bottom line behind that is, if Pacquiao fought Mosley and loss, the Floyd fight would never come to fruition. It’s not about whether Roach thinks Manny will lose, but when two great fighters fight, anything can happen. Now that Floyd may not end up fighting Manny he’s saying “Well we’ll take the winner of that fight.”
Roach wants Floyd. Ever since he lost w/ODLH, any loss now would prevent that from happening, or even worse dampen the excitement from the fight. IMO it was a good decision on Freddie’s side. Conversely you can argue if Pac beats Mosley, Floyd will soon come, but why take the risk? Pac/Mosley will be more exciting, but wouldn’t you guys rather see Pac/Mayweather? It’ll put all the P4P banter to rest. Just my thoughts.
For the argument “well Floyd is fighting Mosley!” Well, styles make fights. PBF won’t knock Mosley out, and he’s too defensive to get KOd himself. Manny is a straight in-fighter. If Pac/Mosley happened, there’d be a KO in the fight for sure. It’s more risk to Pac because of styles.
Bautista, nice clear up, I was wondering about the Philippines comment. Hard to gauge sarcasm in articles
@Rod Bautista. I feel you. Both guys are responsible for this thing not happening. All the Floyd lovers say it’s Manny’s fault, and all the Manny followers blame mayweather. Either one of them could have eased back a little to make this thing happen. I have no allegiance to either fighter. I just love the sport. Sure, I have favorites, and guys who have great personality, as well as skill, but I won’t fault their boxing prowess just because I don’t like somebody, and I wont let emotions dictate reality.
@ John. Old man Mosley just beat the guy that manny, AND Floyd never fought. He don’t look so old to me. You could give that arguement if Mosley did’nt look great, and wer’nt STILL knocking people out, but he does, and he is. You’re just trying to downplay it so that IF Mosley does lose, you can try and say that Mosley was old. At least he’s not coming off a loss like most of Manny’s latest fights.
Mayweather Pac will not happen because pretty boy is truly scared of the outcome. He will use any exscuse even the one that clotty used of having Darrihea .Would respect you more floyd if you just came out clean and admitted you are SH**ING yourself.
First off to my fellow Pinoy who took offense to how I described The Philippines, I was pointing out how little the general public knows about our country. They know that dude from American Idol who sang about his brother more than they know about Arnel Pineda or Lea Salonga. Sorry to offend you brother, but it was meant in a different way than to insult my fellow Pinoys. To make up for it note that we not only have Manny, but Tim Lincecum and Jason Bartlett are half Pinoy, and of course Vanessa Minnillo is half as well.(She is so hot)
Now that is done, the back and forth about who ducked who and PED’s and whatever else is what it is. Regardless of what article is out there there will be debate and a Pac fan will be a Pac fan and a Floyd fan will be a Floyd fan. Nothing will change that. Even if there is a fight no one will ever budge. Hell to this day because I was his fan I swear Hagler beat Leonard. Yes I went off and complimented Pacquiao and what not, but I didn’t take it away from Floyd.
Floyd Mayweather the former P4P champ of the world is a defensive genius and is undefeated because of his greatness. He not only is elusive, but he is lightening quick and has pin point accurate counter punching skills. I’m not disputing that.
My point is they don’t need blood tests and Manny’s excuse for not taking them is weak too. As a realistic Filipino and a true boxing fan all this BS has to stop and the fight needs to happen.
Regardless if we all disagree about whose fault it is I think we can all agree that this fight needs to happen and that we all will be watching and that we all will be enthralled with it as well as the rest of the world. That is my point not only for us boxing fans, but for the rest of the sporting world.
I know its unrealistic but I wish that boxers would just fight, just shut up and fight. Regardless if Manny or Floyd wins and regardless of how it happens. Manny will never win over Floyd fans and vice versa. This bantering back and forth is good for the fans. After the fight I will be having a beer with just as many Pac fans as Floyd fans just like I have beers with packers fans and Vikings fans. That’s what being a sports fan is about. We do the bickering and the athletes go to battle.
So we can keep debating and talking and defending our guys. Manny and Floyd should just shut up and fight!
@PRETTY BABE FLOYD BCH get your mind correct whats the point of having random drug test if it was finna be cut off 24 days before the fight.And manny the 1 switching up excuses,talking bout he scared of needles,then he supersticious,then he wants to say he don’t want to take it the same day of the fight.Mayweather could of been like o well,but he still was cool enough to make it a 14 day cutoff,which 13 more days then the same day of the fight manny didnt wanna take.Plus roach was part of knowing James Toney was on steroids when he got caught.Boy i been watching boxing since the 90 and i seen all of mayweather fights. Yall pacquiao fans just showed up three years ago.ALOT of yall mutha SUKAZ just started watching boxing think if you know tyson and muhamid ali,yall know boxing. Yall quick to jump on mannys’ nuts and probably would sleep with him the first night you met him.
@Fighter says:
March 17, 2010 at 5:38 am
Face it. Manny wants no part of anything dangerous. He wants to party, and sing his little heart out. YOU GO MANNY!
You still trying?? Stop trying to reverse thing around. We all know who is Mr. LOW RISK/HIGH REWARD is and that is the boy Mayweather. The Mayweathers are all scared, like what Mayweather Sr. said ” I don’t want Floyd to fight Pacquiao”. So they make up all these accusations of steroids and now from uncle Roger’s “a-side meth” WTF is that. Can someone tell me what that is and where it comes from. How about you FIGHTER, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT STUFF IS? You believe What the Mayweathers say? ARE YOU THAT STUPID? LOL! Mayweather need to just get in the ring and fight or continue selling folders and t-shirts on the internet to make the big bucks. LOL! Anyways, IT DON’T MATTER, MAYWEATHERS ARE GOING TO JAIL! Uncle Roger and Folyd will be cellmates in the Nevada State Prison where they both can wear their dresses for BUBBA.
@JB. Shane did’nt turn down 40million because of a drug test, your boy Manny did. Which makes him look like a user himself. At least Mosley admitted to it however many years ago. Manny keeps coming up with bogus excuses. He’s scared of needles, yet when you look at the photo on this blog, he’s all tatted up. Sounds fishy.
John. If Mosley is past his prime, and is worse than Marquez, than why do you suspect, Manny and Freddy turned him down for a fight? Could it be, because Shane is legitimately the #3 WW? Could it be because Shane ko’d Margarito? Could it be, because Shane is a fast crafy, fighter, who is not shot, flatfooted, past his prime, or as garbage as Hatton?
Or could it be for the exact reason Freddy declined to fight him, because Shane’s “..just too good a fighter?” If Shane was past his prime, based on Manny’s M.O. of fighting cherry picked fighters, but Shane is “just too good a fighter” so we will not see Manny fight him.
Maybe Manny will fight Malinaggi next, or some other sure thing. I can guarantee, Shane has a much better chance of beating Floyd, than Clottey had of beating Manny. That’s a calculation for you right there.
@JB and John. As far as Mosley being past his prime, surely you are wrong, as he KO’d one of the most feared and iron chinned WW’s in the division. If you don’t beleive me, just refer to my previous post, in which Freddie validated my sentiment. I did’nt say it, Freddie Roach did. He’s past his prime, yet he beat a very crafty Luis Colazzo, whois far younger than him, and he beat Margarito, in his prime at that. Yet you two say he’s 38, and old, and this and that. Compare Mosley’s last fights to Manny’s. No comparison. Manny cherrypicks guys who are shot, old, and washed up, and or worthless to begin with. Shane might be old, but he follows the tradition of Bernard Hopkins, he gets better as he gets older, with no sighns of slowing, no signs of shying away from a slugfest.
You’re just trying to downplay the possibility of Mayweather winning, as if to say he beat a shot fighter. For you to imply that Mosley is no good, you show your lack of knowledge and or reason regarding boxing.
Everyone is quick to give Mayweather credit for taking this risk. The opponent he chose is 38 years old and hasn’t fought in over a year. It is a well calculated risk. That’s how Floyd operates.
Well I hope Shane can pass all the PED tests. I was worried he might not and that maybe Floyd knew there was a chance Shane could fail. He chose a known user as his opponent.
Because both Boxers are good.
They are both fighters & both Boxers.
One of them is being confused by his camp. Ones a looser then u’re out. So the camp is confused.
Face it. Manny wants no part of anything dangerous. He wants to party, and sing his little heart out. YOU GO MANNY!
Freddie Roach- “First, there’s not enough Money there, and second, you’re too good a fighter.”
This was Freddie’s response to Shane Mosley when he called and asked for a fight with Manny.
So there it is. Your beloved’s trainer admitting that Money comes first, and his fighter (or himself) is a coward, only willing to fight B level fighters who are either washed up, shot, overmatched, and or just comming off a loss.
Freddie Roach- “First, there is’nt enough money there, and second Shane, you’re just too good a fighter.”
This is not heresay. This is your beloveds trainer, telling Shane Mosely, that Money is first, and his fighter’s a coward!
Check and see for yourself if he said this. Don’t take my word for it. He also said that March was too soon to fight Mayweather, but not Clottey. More proof that Manny can only win against B level fighters who are either washed up, shot, overmatched, or just comming off a loss.
@ bra-buster
dont you worry man sooner or later he will “shut them all up” including you…
kray,
I’m not necessarily disagreeing w/that point. Just from a physics stand point, walking into an unexpected punch can put your lights out. There are 3 issues I take w/the comparison to the JMM fight, this goes for all posters, not just you. Pacquiao is not the same fighter. 1) That was at 130/135, Pac at 145 is a different beast. 2) He developed his right hand. 3) He improved his footwork.
As far as the Hatton fight I wasn’t talking about the fashion of Ricky’s loss. What I was trying to point out was, it took Floyd 10 rounds to knock out Ricky, who inarguably is not as good a fighter as Pacquiao. Pac is known for his unpredictability, figuring him out is the piece to the puzzle. I myself am curious to see if PBF, the best defensive fighter out there currently, can do it. A good stand up fighter can always just KO somebody, but to pick someone apart w/a defensive style would be art in the making.
But Pac and Floyd will be fighting very soon… if they have milked the other cows completely. For next fight Clottey vs Floyd and Pac vs SSM the Pac vs Loyd finally. Is that not a very big accumulated purse???
Bra-Buster,
How can you shut a fighter’s mouth in the ring when that fighter refuses to fight you in the ring??!
LOgic why Roach sais SSM is just too good for Manny: He does’nt want SSM to be insulted for chosing Cotto. Why Roach said Pac needs more time to fight Mayweather??: to bait mayweather into pronouncing he wants to fight Pac as soon as possible of which Floyd did bite!! So to get out of the fight floyd fabricates PEDs issue!!
@wowzabean- I agree Manny probably has the better chance at a KO, on the basis of his power. But, I think Floyd has a chance for a KO, because, of Manny’s forward momentum. Manny has an aggressive style, and will be looking for the fight. Floyd with his defensive style will let the fight come to him. Floyd will have many opportunities to set Manny up. Most fighters can take a punch, when they are ready for it. But, JMM stumbled the hell out of Pac, in their second fight. And that was not too long ago. So, I think Floyd is strong enough to, as well. Especially, if Manny is not expecting it. I don’t believe Manny has SSM’s chin either. He’s taken some shots from Cotto and Clottey. But, SSM has taken hard shots from much bigger guys, throughout his career, and has neither been hurt badly or KO’d. I don’t see PBF getting a KO against SSM, for this reason. SSM is just too damn strong at WW. But, I don’t expect that to be the focal point of PBF’s strategy, in either fight. It shouldn’t be anyway. I think he will be looking to score.
I think both fighters (Pac and PBF) will have to fight near perfect fights to win. I have my criticisms of the obvious flaws in Manny’s style. But, he has a hell of a work rate and speed to match. He has good pop, as well. He will give Floyd problems early. Floyd can ill afford to waste too many rounds trying to figure Manny out (2 or 3 max). And Manny needs to not waste as Manny punches, because, he will be trying to hit a moving target.
As far as Hatton being KO’d in the 10th vs Floyd and in the 2nd by Pac. Styles make fights. Floyd’s a defensive fighter, so he took his time to figure out Hatton’s tendencies before he set him up for the KO. In doing so, one could argue, he laid the blueprint to get Hatton out of there. Roach, no doubt, watched this fight and used it to prepare Manny’s strategy. Hatton, obviously, reverting back to old ways did almost the same damn thing against Manny, but much earlier. So, the result was, basically, the same. I would have to say, that in terms of ring IQ, Hatton is “overated”. Floyd exposed this, and Manny put the stamp on it.
Pacquiao is the top P4P and number one contender in Welterweight Division. he has the higher standing than Mayweather.
while it is annoying that both parties insist their own demands in the negotiation, Mayweather is the one who need to let go of his terms in order for this fight to happen. anyway, he need to fight Pacquiao to be the champion.
Pacquiao don’t brag his position though. but if Mayweather don’t show any good sign, Pacquiao can challenge Mosley. if Pacquiao beat Mosley, he will be the champion.
kray,
You have some good points, though taking into consideration previous posts, some are a bit biased. That being said if there is a KO in the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight (if it happens) a high probability says it’s going to be Manny over Mayweather. Even I have PBF winning on the cards against Pacquiao, but there’s no way in hell Floyd KO’s Manny. The May 1st fight vs. SSM will show that.
This is the same Floyd that had to go all the way to round 10 vs., a now considered “overrated” fighter by Pachaters, Ricky Hatton. Manny, is not Ricky, he can take a punch as seen by the Cotto and Clottey fight. Floyd can/will win on the cards, pit patting and doing what he’s best at. But if someone, ANYONE, sleeps on the mat that night, chances are it’ll be Mayweather. Just my opinion. Either Floyd wins by points, or Manny by KO, I don’t see a visa versa verdict.
Roach saying that SSM was “too good”, when he offered to challenge Manny last year, speaks volumes about where he thought Manny was at, in his development at that time. What also speaks volumes is his selection of Cotto instead, followed by Clottey. While the inability of the Mayweather and Pac camps to make the fight can be blamed on both parties, Roach mentioning to one interviewer that “March was not enough time to prepare for a style like Mayweather’s”, shows he did not feel Manny was truly ready for that showdown either.
Two fights later, with bonafide welters, and now Roach is “chasing Mayweather” or he’s ready to take on SSM, if he gets past Floyd. It’s understandable that Manny would need a few fights @ WW to prepare for the best in the division, but,
it’s clear Roach is not satisfied with Manny’s accomplishments. He knows the ultimate challenge for him and Manny would be to defeat both SSM and Floyd. Floyd will be taking his final exam, on May 1. If he passes with flying colors, Manny will get the opportunity of taking his.
However, regarding Manny, it’s odd that, throughout his entire career, he’s not been put in the ring with more slick, crafty boxers, at the height of their careers. JMM was close, but he was aging by their second showdown. And he gave Manny hell, BOTH times. So, this was no fluke. Yes, we know, he fights whomever Arum and Roach (since he’s been his trainer) approve of. But, it’s obvious, Roach and Arum have chosen to not pursue fighters with styles that would give Manny trouble (like JMM’s or better). Putting him in the ring with boxers who are smarter than he is, have a better handle on the fundamentals, and are as physically gifted as he is, would only have served to make him better. But, they chose to make Manny a star, instead. This argument could apply to Mayweather, to some degree, once he entered the WW division, it seemed he was on a mission to gain stardom. So, he chose the fights, which would put him on the fastest track to ODLH. The difference being that Mayweather is as well rounded a boxer as he is, because, he’s been around the game a long time. He’s been boxing his entire life, basically. He had an extensive amatuer career to master the fundamentals, been in the Olympics, and since being in the pro’s he faced opponents with many different styles. That being the case, Floyd is prepared for what Manny brings. However, I am not convinced Manny is prepared for what PBF brings. I think that Roach and Arum (especially) are to blame for this.
While I feel Manny will give Floyd trouble, because, of his speed, punching power, flurries and angles, if Floyd is not hurt by the 3 Round, he will have figured Manny out. I believe, the rest of the rounds will look like they did in his fight against Judah (w/o folks jumping into the ring I hope), and could possibly end like his fight against Hatton. People keep saying Floyd can’t hurt Manny. But, what they are not recognizing is that an opponent’s own force can be used against him. Alexander caught Urango coming in, Floyd caught Hatton coming in, and Manny caught Hatton coming in. Manny is there to be hit, and make no mistake, he WILL be hit, many times against Floyd. Floyd will make Manny miss much more than he lands, and he WILL land on Manny much more than he misses. Even without a KO, this enough to win the fight (depending on the judges). Floyd has a lot more on the line than Clottey, and will not be satisfied with just going all 12 rds. He will come to win, and knows how to. But, we will see on May 1, how PBF handles a fighter who throws with bad intentions, could KO him with 1 well placed blow, has speed, is bigger and stronger, has a great deal of experience, and has a world class trainer. Although styles make fights, if PBF wins, convincingly, it will be somewhat of an indication how he will handle the pressure from Manny, IF they fight.
dnt forget pacquiao always has catch weights hes nver fought under welterweight 154 title fr 147 plse screw him hes been cuaght cheeting bt boxing dsnt wnt to release it cuase it will kill the sport, He is using illegal drugs to be so strong.
Texasmade is the only guy i ever heard make sense. PAC was the one who walked away from the fight. He could not let MONEy have anything. WOW guess PAC is scared o MONEY
because floyd think too much, he has adhd and floyd sr has scared what ever bravery he had left.
This writer doesn’t know anything about Philippines! Where did Journey, an American legendary rock band find their lead singer?? Only in the Philippines! So we are not bad singers! So shut up and just write articles based on general facts! Idiot.
Well said pete!
Hey, did you know that actor Robert Duvall came up to Pacquiao after the fight and said to him “You gotta fight Mayweather”. Then Robert whisper to his ear “You gotta knock that son of a b*itch out! Do it for the good of humanity.” Ok that last part if from me
ANOTHER WORDS WHAT THESE TRUE boxing fans are saying forget bloodtesting.Its ok for boxers to do steroids. Forget being natural.Its bad sportsmanship to have 1 or 2 boxers to do steroids or take enhancement drugs. So to be fair everybody can do it now and not worry about any test anymore.Now thats good spoortsmanship.O but boxers that doesnt mean you can smoke weed or do cocaine, we still test for that.We want to set a example to kids that love boxing.So remember say no to drugs but say yes to steroids. O AND BY THE WAY @ HOUSTON you said why cant mayweather just say yes and fight,why cant manny do the same.QUIT being blin to the fact that manny made a whole bunch of demands and mayweather said yes to all of them.Manny was the one that said no to the 1 demand of mayweather.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. is going to “‘MILK’ the drug testing issue and make it a highlight in one of the episodes of 24/7 and snicker in a corner like a little kid.
Like any great propaganda, his mindless drones and bandwagon hoppers will likely spread the word amongst the causal boxing fans and further hammering that nail in the coffin.
Then the lawsuit comes.
CHESS NOT CHECKER…. And chess with checker pieces don’t count.
Seriously now…
If and only if the great Floyd “JUST SHUT UP AND FIGHT” he’s done for!
But he’s keeping at bay by throwing and inventing all the possible excuses he can come up with.
I’m goin to bed, I’ll holla tomorrow. I wont quit. If you don’t tell people the blatent truth when they lie, than the nonsense they spew, will be taken as the gospel. Keep it real.
Yeah, sure but he never even prove himself at those weights, he was just handed title shots, and did he ever defend them, NO. . . i really dont see him as that great because of this, along with the fact that he needs an advantage to beat heavier fighters, and if he wanted to warm up to welter he should have tested the waters with not so dangerous welters, but instead he made the CHAMP come down in weight so that he could get an advantage over an elite fighter, wow, some champ, i’m sure PAC would do no such thing for any fighter. CLOTTEY was so not a threat that he didnt even need a catchweight for him. . . hahaha MONEY MAY is a true p4p champ.
@Diesel,
Thats why they are the belt champs cause they are the best of the division, why will you fight a guy that doesnt have anything? ofcourse fight the guy with the belt, it’s just commonsense.
Tweezy 316 and anonymos are both right. and everyone just hating on their comments are just straight up PAC nut huggers, the only fight I give him is the HATTON fight, that was the only amazing one he did at that weight, but he never defended or even attempted to unify those belts, I wonder why? myabe PAC was scared of the other champs at light welter, just like his lightweight and superfeather tittles, wow, all i see him do is get a belt from the easiest champ then run instead of fighting tougher competition, i was amazed when i heard he was gonna fight cotto, but then he started making demands and bullied cotto throughout the negotiations to gain any advantage possible. wow some CHAMP oac is, hahaha he wont be an ATG unless he beats MAYWEATHER, but i doubt he will unless he has the edge befor the fight even starts. He wont beat MONEY if the playing field is even.
@Tweezy
What’s up with the jealousy? Is it because your idol Fraud, I mean Floyd, has been dethroned by Manny. Is it because Manny is the..
- Fighter of the Decade
- 3 time Fighter of the Year
- Current P4P No. 1 for many years now.
- Beloved by celebrities
- Boxers’ favorite boxer
- The most exciting boxer
Yeah. It’s plain to see you’re jealous.
@Anonymous
RANDOM BLOOD TEST, MY AS*! JUST SHUT UP AND FIGHT! It’s the major blocker. He said Manny is one-dimensional and even better than JMM, so why afraid he is using a PED which is not even proven! So who’s afraid of whom?
This article is LAME
because drug use is rampant in most pro sports.. and some are terrified of random drug screenings… or was it needles??
@ Tweezy316
You are obviously a spiteful envious insecure nigga…why would you hate on someone who brought excitement/fans back to the sport of boxing…oh, yeah, he ain’t black…lol…
Tweezy,
Right, because throwing fast punches and hitting hard has nothing to do w/boxing………….
All Mayweather had to do was say yes to a fight like all the other fighters he has fought.
Amen.
Good read.. and plus with that much money involved, they should just fight and let Nevada Commission do their job.. with 20-40 mil on the table, and you call yourself “money”. Come get your money, stop all the prima donna bs.. its not like winner takes majority of the pot, they agree to the split.. All this politics is ruining boxing period…. Just Fight..
The writer is definitely filipino. How you gonna compare those greats to manny pacquiao? those guys actually knew how to box. manny just throws a lot of fast punches and hits hard. other than that what does he got? oh wait don’t forget the ANGLES!!! lmao
Let’s get one thing clear folks, Pacquiao did not sell out Cowboy stadium and certainly not by himself. The facts are there were quite a few seats avaialble. As we arrived, hostess’ were offering seat location upgrades from the 300 level to the 200 and 100 level to fill the empty seats in camera range. Not a lot of empties, but good numbers.
Another thing, the other star attraction of that nite was the stadium. It drew quite a few fans that couldn’t ordinarily get in for Cowboys game.
Finally, how did they get to 51K; they sold thousands of $35 walk-up ‘party passes’. The atmosphere, food and people made a great party.
“WHY CAN’T FIGHTERS JUST FIGHT”?
One is a warrior, the other is a p@ssy who doesn’t know when to stop blabbing but wants to clean up boxing to level the playing field instead … pathetic.
they want to make demands . like fighting the WW champs at a catch wieght. making de la hoya not gain a single pound after the wiegh ins to keep him dehydrated( oscars fine with loosin to manny cuz he makes money off of every manny fight.). asking for a 50/50 split with mayweatehr knowing fully well that mayweather is the top draw. asking for 10 million over every pound. asking for a smaler ring size. those wer all of mannys demands. floyd asked for the fight to b called mayweather-pacquiao, and random blood testing to b conducted on BOTH fighters. its unbelievable that u guys think hes ducking when he asked that theyd both go threw random blood testing
Until one governing body controls the sport and scum bags like Arum dont then money alone will dictate who fights who .You cant be p4p champ if you dont fight the best period , no excuses , blood tests , weight clauses etc etc the best need to grow some balls and fight each other
team pacman wants to make all the demans they want but they wont let the opponent make nething.
Nice article man. Tell it like it is. Michael Bouble? LOL
man history is history dont brag about yesterday boxers, this is the present and boxing is about business. well why not ask mayweather to subdue pacman a drugtesting immediately after the fight and not before the fight. I thnk pacman agrees on this before from what i heard
Haha an article I actually enjoyed reading!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice one Rod Bautista.
Thumbs up
The days when fighters just fought were the days before promoters could broker $20-30M purses for their fighters. You’ve got to take the good with the bad with the ugly.
…ryan
floyd is a fighter? boxer? talker? runner? ducker? chicken?
If they don’t fight…. They both joke in tha sport general… They should b ashame
Great article, I agree 100%.
The heavyweight division used to be the crowd pleaser. Ali, Tyson then Holyfield and Lewis, all those guys fought every contender and had many rematches, it was exciting and drew big crowds. But the heavyweight division died a death and boxing took a shot in the arm.
Mayweather v Pacquiao can save boxing… then Haye v Klitschko’s, Valero v Marquez, Williams v Everyone, Khan v Everyone, etc, etc Because if Mayweather and Pacquiao do fight then everyone will want a crack at the winner.
The Super 6 is going to produce a super star who can then fight Bute, Pavlik, etc… Boxing can come back but it does keep hurting itself.
because a boxer will not keep him big mouth shut and will not let the promoters. what their payed to to do .finish their job. j
leonard ducked no one lets not forget aaron pryor
you dont need proof to make aligations, macgwire was said to have used roids without testing staroids. he edmited a few weeks ago that he did. marion jones never tested positive. she edmited she did hgh. what pacman is doing is not normal. to gain weight that fast and stay that strong. be that cut up mid section still small and your gaining all that weight. not normal. funny how in fight with clottey he all of a sudden was not as cut as usual. had a belly all of a sudden and wide mid section. and head is not as big. and didnt have the same power as usuall. looks like someone was off the juice for this last one
commonsense,
Why don’t you use a bit of common sense here. All Pacqiao had to do to get Mayweather into the ring was to agree to the blood tests.
Pacquiao’s camp is full of clowns. They don’t know whether they are coming or going. A simple request for an Olympic-style random blood test sent them into a panic.
Even now they don’t know what they want.
@bra-buster, yeah that would be great except Pac could not get Floyd in the ring to do that, could he?
If you make allegations without evidence or proof, be prepared for any consequences and it takes two to tango. I defenitely agree with the writer to just shut up and fight. Unfortunately, we live in an era where money dictates everything and even Pac is no immune to this. unlike before, when great boxers mentioned above slug it out to prove who is the best.
skills pay the bills in boxing,steroids don’t win fights,this is not track cycling or weightlifting or bodybuilding
Bautista!
You need to write more articles!
This was awesome man!
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
(sans the praise for Pac Man) But thats my problem, haha.
the most effeminate thing I ever saw a fighter do was take another fighter to court over hurt feelings instead of making him pay in the ring,… Ali would never consider filing a lawsuit as an option to shut up a mouthy foe,.. Ali shut them all up in the ring…