And this talk about ODLH is elementary. Floyd fought oscar years before Manny did. Oscar had to come down to that fight. We’ll see what happens when Manny comes up a bit. As to your comment about Marquez, if Manny was so great, why did marquez get off the canvas, and give him such a hard time. When Marquez got up from Floyd, Floyd controlled the rest of the fight. Can’t say the same for Manny.

Bottom line, is that Manny is a technically flawed fighter. He does not belong in the same ranks as Mosley, Mayweather, Berto, Colazzo, Martinez, Williams. He has too many flaws. He’s entertaining, but he has obviously been propped up by the powers that b, because he’s a crowd pleaser. But having never faced the same type of opposition as a Shane Mosley, or Paul Williams, he’s not of that calliper. He and Freddy pick flatfooted, come forward, shot, over the hill, damaged fighters that are taylor made for his style. I would say the same for Mayweather, but at least he fought other speed guys, like Zab Judah, who is less tough, but faster than Manny.

This is true. Also, not only did Floyd beat them first, he fought each at their “natural” weight (OK, Hatton’s natural weight isn’t 140 because he walks around at 170 or so, but that’s the weight he fought at his whole career – and Floyd stopped him first).

I think the bottom line is styles make fights, and nobody has found the style that beats Floyd. Even though it’s still speculation (and I don’t even want to talk about Manny vs Floyd anymore because Manny has a more dangerous fight this weekend), I say Floyd stinks out a win against Manny (he can jab/ pot shot him and tie him up all night long).

C’mon men, PACMAN did a better job on these two guys.

Who has Floyd Fought that wasnt’ considered on the best at the time they fought. Who has Floyd fought that had just lost a fight. If you look at Floyds history he fought the best there was at that particular time. You can sit her and speculate and say what about Cotto and williams but they were making names for themselves when Floyd decided to hang it up..They weren’t proven fighters. Go back and tell me who he dodged. He asked to fight the best there was and he beat those that took the challenge. The only fighter that wasn’t the best was Oscar and he only fought Oscar because of the Pay out.

Who has Floyd Fought that wasnt’ considered on the best at the time they fought. Who has Floyd fought that had just lost a fight. If you look at Floyds history he fought the best there was at that particular time. You can sit her and speculate and say what about Cotto and williams but they were making names for themselves when Floyd decided to hang it up..They were proven fighters. Go back and tell me who he dodged. He asked to fight the best there was and he beat those that took the challenge. The only fighter that wasn’t the best was Oscar and he only fought Oscar because of the Pay out.

Cotto could not handle that pressure as well as Clottey did. In fact, Clottey was up on the cards, and could have won, had he not broken his hand, and started favoring that injury. Cotto, on the other hand, said “no mas”, after taking all that punishment–basically did the same against Pac. Clottey took Margarito’s best shots too. But, his defense, as well as sharp offense (when he let his hands go), kept him in the fight. Cotto has subpar defense. Based on what I’ve seen from Clottey, he has the remedy to Pac’s speed. And it’s not when he covers up, either. When he starts landing some of his combos, then the tables will turn. Unfortunately, he will have damn near everything (outside the ring) working against him.

But to PACMAN personally, he doesn’t care as long as he gives the boxing fans the fight that they wanted.

Floyd was predicted to lose against Oscare Dela Hoya because he was fighting a bigger fighter. He was predicted to lose against Hatton because Hatton was more experienced and supposedly more powerful. so, just as Manny was suppose to loose so was Floyd.. So, whats your point..

GO PACMAN !

Don’t get it wrong, Roach is a great trainer but he isn’t in the ring. Everyone thought that about Ricky Hatton when he was undefeated an Roach was his trainer and Floyd beat him. so, to say he can’t loose with Roach in his corner is a little to much. Roach has been a the losing end of several fights. If i am not mistaken I think Floyd beat 2 or 3 of Roaches fghters. Dont quote me on the last sentence.