Pacquiao-Clottey goes as Expected, Manny wins easily
March 14th, 2010
By Alexander Fugate: The Pacquiao-Clottey fight went almost exactly like the overwhelming majority felt it would. A vast majority felt Clottey would cover up too much and not throw enough punches to win rounds and didn‘t possess the power to knock Manny out. This feeling was based on the fact that Clottey has only one knockout in the last five years and loves to cover up blocking his opponents shots and not throwing anything in return for long stretches. This sentiment was proven by the odds, which made Pacquiao a seven and a half to one favorite.
Pacquiao heavily outworked Clottey all night long to win a lopsided decision. Clottey often covers up in his crab defense and refuses to throw punches. He has had this flaw throughout his career and his lack of activity has been the one major knock against him. He didn’t fight any different against Pacquiao. In fact, before the fight Clottey had stated he would allow Manny to throw 30 punches to his four. This was true, as Clottey was stubborn in his refusal to let his hands go the entire 12 rounds. It really appeared from the beginning that Clottey was simply trying to last all 12 rounds; and if that was his goal, he accomplished it. Most of Pacquiao’s head shot’s landed on Clottey’s arms and gloves. Manny really pounded on Clottey’s body all night long though, as it was open like it has been in every round he’s ever fought. The final judges scorecards were 120-108 twice and 119-109 on the other.
This fight went exactly as expected, as Clottey refused to throw enough punches to win any rounds and even though he landed a few solid shots, never hurt Pacquiao. Now the Pacquiao hype train can keep on rolling, as Manny destroyed a B level opponent, that was coming off a loss. This is nothing new for Pacquiao as he faced Morales three times, and in all three Morales had lost his previous fight. He fought Barrera after Marquez had beat him soundly in his last outing. Hector Velazquez is another Manny foe that had lost his previous bout. As for his last three opponents before tonight, they had all lost their last fight against a top tier opponent. De La Hoya was beaten by Mayweather and then couldn’t get a lightweight out of the ring. Hatton had been knocked out by Mayweather and looked like he was going to be knocked out by the light hitting Juan Lazcano in his next outing before the ref inexplicably stopped the action to allow Hatton to tie his shoes. Hatton’s only fight after that was a win over the feather-fisted Pauli Malignaggi. Cotto had suffered a devastating beating by the possibly plaster wrapped hands of Margarito the last time he fought a top notch fighter and hadn‘t looked the same since. And now, Clottey who has never beat a top tier opponent. Pacquiao has consistently shown that he prefers to take on the losers of big fights and continued that trend Saturday night.
Before the fight it was already reported Pacquiao’s next opponent looked to be Margarito who is coming off a loss to Shane Mosley, where he got thoroughly beaten up all night long. There is also an outside chance he could face Mosley should he lose on May 1st. As for Mayweather, don’t expect Pacquiao to take that fight or even try to negotiate for it, especially if Mayweather proves victorious against Mosley. Given his entire career, it would be shocking to see Pacquiao fight someone coming off a win in a mega-fight. Margarito, who is currently still not allowed to fight in the US because of his illegal hand wraps appears to be the frontrunner for Manny’s next bout. Edwin Valero is another option. Valero has an impressive record of 27-0 with all 27 wins coming by way of knockout. However, Valero has never fought a top notch fighter and would be in way over his head. One has to hope that Manny will face Mosley next. Fighting someone coming of a loss to Mayweather would be a lot better than fighting someone who suffered a beatdown by someone who just lost to Mayweather. If Mosley wins on May 1st, which is a real possibility than a Pacquiao-Mosley fight would seem less likely. In fact a Mosley victory could bring a Mayweather-Pacquiao match-up to fruition, as Floyd would lose some bargaining power and could ease up or even drop the drug testing he wants for all of his opponents now (Mayweather undergoes the same testing and isn‘t asking his opponents to do something he isn‘t going to do). Still one has to give Manny credit for continuing to win, even if it is against less than stellar opposition.
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Commonsense- Huh????? What in the world are you talking about???? I was in no way referring to the totality of Pacquiao’s accomplshment by saying that he had not done anything more than what has already been done in this fight. I was specifically referring to Wowzabean’s post about Pac fighting a welterweight match and throwing over 1200 punches. So, what’s the problem??? I was just saying that another welterweight in Antonio Margarito threw close to 1700 punches against Joshua Clottey also. It doesnt matter if you “take my word” or not……..I already know the facts….if you have such a problem with it, then look it up for yourself. OK, so Pac totally shut out Clottey………Mayweather did the same thing against a tough, strong and iron chin welterweight also in Carlos Baldomir, but I dont hear you guys jumping in the streets for that………Pac has done some things that I didnt think that he could and he deserves some credit for beating the guys that are put in front of him, but what is it with you guys that act like he has done anything more than Mayweather has done in the welterweight division???? Pac has not fought or done anything more than Mayweather has done or accomplished in the welterweight division……………nothing.
@props, and you were happy paying $59.95 after you finished watching the Floyd DLH fight, or $49.95 to watch Floyd vs JMM, or Floyd vs Judah OR Floyd vs Baldomir, OR……
This list goes on and on. In fact, other than Corrales which Floyd fought a lifetime ago, when was the last time you felt you got your money’s worth when you watched a Mayweather fight? Hatton, blown up and fighting out of his division? IF that is the most exciting fight you can attach to Floyd recently, why would anyone bother paying to see Floyd vs 39 yr old Mosley. It is just another “Floyd” fight people. Haven’t you learned your lssson yet?
@preston, actually Pac HAS done something no other fighter has done. Margarito threw 1700 punches you say? OK. I didn’t see that fight but I will take your word for it. But I am pretty sure he didn’t pitch a shutout like Pac did, despite his “1700 punches”
According to Ring Magazine this is one of Pac’s most important wins. What does an amateur “boxing writer” like you know. And no I’m not a Pac fan. I just think your war against Pac is ridiculous!
@haku..if manny fight mosley and win… whats next? that manny fought another bum and old fighter…why you just can simply demand manny to fight the klicthkos?..your comments simply means that you want manny to lose…give a dude a credit perhaps some people here will appreciate..be a boxing fan.. dont be a flomo..
What motivation is left for the pacman…he gots the money, the fame, already a legend before his times…he don’t need no mosley, pbf , margorito…he prob has snatches all over the world, what is left to do? Nothing left in boxing, that’s why he is thinking about other things, especially with derisions and envy from blacks, latinos, americans…why put your guts, sweat and tears to entertain these insolent spiteful ungratefull mofos…
I hope Mosley wins his fight with Floyd Jr. via a KO so that there will be no rematch and a megafight with Manny will materialized. If Floyd wins, there will be no fight with Manny thats sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, he will price himself out of the fight.
Congrats to Pacquaio and his followers; I expected much more from Clottey but I have to look at the entire picture from his point of view as well. “Maybe better to take the money and run cause I cannot win a decision anyway”. As for Pacquaio; his workrate was amazing! He did exactly what was required to win the fight. And he didn’t try to force the knockout! Considering the opponent and the potential dangers; I was very impressed.
gentlemen, Pac threw fewer punches against Clottey than Margarito did. Margarito threw 1765 against Clottey…so what pac did yesterday wasn’t something we have seen before. If Pac fights Floyd or Mosley and is able to throw that many punches I will give him credit but to do that against the human punching bag Clottey…sorry he does not deserve a pat on the back.
if u glad u paid 50 for that then i wish i could stage a fight an envite u since u will probley pay for anything,ill even throw in a free manny poster jus hate i aint think of this sooner
Look, the fact of the matter is Pac has no reason to stay in boxing if he’s not going to fight the winner of May/Mosley. Why take more punishment for no reason? The only reason Clottey even laced up was because the Mayweather fight didn’t push through. The next fight will be Mosley if he wins, probably retirement if Floyd wins if a concession can’t be made.
I’m glad I paid $50 bucks to see one of the last fights of one of boxing’s greatest. Hell I’ve spent hundreds on alcohol and trying (lately to no avail
) to get laid. Hopefully the next time I reach into my wallet for Pac it’ll be a legendary fight.
Floyd likes to fight at his own pace Sit back and pick his shots. Manny won’t let him do that. Floyd does not do well against fighters who pressure him and Manny will pressure him like he has never been pressured before. Roach will dissect his style. Pac will hand him his first loss, IF Floyd is man enough to fight him.
@Dom, you are 100% correct. Floyd SHOULD abandon his olympic drug testing demands. BUT HE DIDN’T. Instead he left $45M on the table. Care to explain that one to me? Accoring to you, he can beat Pac roids or no roids with one hand tied behnd his back.
wowzabean, Pac will never say that. He is too humble. You cannot fault him for not having Floyd’s obnoxious character.
And I am still trying to figure out, what has Manny done and accomplished in the welterweight division, that is anything more than Floyd?????
wowza- it doesnt matter……..you can slice it like you like, but Roach has been on this “we want to fight Floyd campaing” since the talks broke down…….rememver Roach getting ridiculously stupid abou the whole thing by saying they should have a “winner take all bout”????? Manny has also stated that he wants to fight Mayweather when talking about his boxing future…..the internet is littered with articles of him stating so……….if you want to see it for yourself, I am sure you will find them…but I am not going to get into an apples and orange discussion about that.
preston
Pac never called Mayweather out. He’s always asked do you want to fight him, and he always says yes. That’s not calling out, that’s just saying I’ll do my job. Manny has never on an interview just said “Fight me Floyd you P*ssy!” I’d like to see that though.
Haku- it does seem rather pretentious for Pac and Roach to be calling out Mosely and Mayweather now……..they flat out refused to fight Mosely when he made a direct appeal to them for a fight…….and if they want to fight Mayweather sooooooo bad now, then why are they still talking about the blood test when they know that that was and could be a sticking point to making that fight happen…….take the test and get it over with, if you are soo eager to get into the ring with Floyd now, or just zip it. And why are they quietly talking about fighting Antonio Margarito for Manny’s next fight, if they are soo focused on fighting Shane or Floyd next????????
@ don king
Well duh don king your sister can tale
on eight guys at once
omg….you pactards make me laugh !! pacman could fight my baby sister and you will try to justify it as great !! do you even listen to yourselves ?? or read your postings?? lets be honest, that was the worst boxing card EVER !! only a true tard could like that garbage .. yet another spoonfed opponent for pacman.. some people say pac is exciting to watch, yea with some one that fights back !! if that fight was worth 50 bucks then mayweather vs. mosley will be worth 500 dollars !!
@bruno, yes I agree with you. He would rather leave $50M on the table rather than risk losing his precious 0. Fighting a 38 yr old Mosley. Waht a joke. Maybe he will challenge Sugar Ray leonard next.
its amazing how people still manange to find something bad to say about manny despite an overwhelming win. AGAIN!!! Mayweather will def retire instead of facing the hurricance
what the fack are you talking about fulgate? are you living in a cave? anyway, as mayweather’s ballhugger you are, its nothing new to me..good luck on your next fackng article..
Blah blah blah
Mr Chadwick.
Floyd does not have an advantage by requesting the Olympic Style Drug Testing.
Floyd is doing why doesnt Manny do it?
Haku is right on the money…..
Marquez: Gave pacquiao angles, he used his distance, use his jab and countered effectively…
After that Pacquiao has fought David Diaz who loss to a smaller Humberto Soto, Oscar De LA Hoya who had lost 3 of his last 6 fights came down and had to shrink down in weight “Damaged Goods”
After the Margarito fight Cotto was not the same! 24/7 Cotto vs Pacquiao even freddie roach said it on “Camera” Cotto is not the same fighter since after the Margarito fight!
I dont even want to bring up Ricky Fatton!
Again its not Manny Pacquiao fault, hes going out there and doing his job.
Last night they put a punching bag in there and he did good work against the Punching Bag. Like i said ive seen sparring sessions more exciting than this fight.
PBF or Mosley are fighters that can implement Marquez gameplan because they have the style to do it.
Thats why they will give Pacquiao a s load of problems.
Dont blind yourself look at tape its all there! look at Cotto against Margarito there was a different Cotto in there against Margarito! Also punk s PAcquiao made Cotto come down to 145lbs to fight him!
@preston, manny tried to fight Floyd but you saw what happened. Why should he have to beg. But again, I absolutely do NOT want to get into whose fault it was. The Pac people say it was CLEARLY Floyd’s fault and the Floyd people say it was CLEARLY Pac’s fault. I got into the debate a few times and it became exhausting. I can’t do that one anymore so let’s focus on something else.
YOu sem to be resting your whole case on one quote from Freddy Roach from the past. I have to admit I an not an expert on this particular quote and you probably know much more than I do about it , because I know nothing about this quote) but perhaps it was taken out of context. Everytime Floyd faces an opponent he says it will be a mismatch. You really can say the same thing about moth fighters. YOu want to diss one fighter’s record and say he is a ducker or a cherry picker? How can you not say that about Mayweather. He is the modern day Roy Jones. He retired rather than face any WW threats. How else can u explain why “money” mayweather retired rather than pick up an easy 8 figutre payday for a rematch with dlh? P. Williams they both ducked. Floyd is only fighting MOsely now because he had no choice. The public would have lynched him if he fought Matthew Hatton. I am sure he woudl have preferred to wait until he was past 40. AS it is Mosley is a 38 yr old fighter who lost twice to Vernon Forrest shen he was years closer to his prime. I don’t think that fighting Mosely makes any kind of a statement for Floyd. If he fights Manny or even P. Williams, and wins, then I will jump on the Floyd wagontrain. Not until.
@ MANNY FANS I ain’t no Manny hater.I think he’s good.BUT he ain’t all around good cause he has no defense.MAYWEATHER is great cause he GOT GREAT defense,pinpoint counter punching, and he can mix it up on the inside.If Manny fights like that with mayweather alot of them punches finna hit AIR and just case yall don’t know hitting nothing is more tiring then making CONTACT.Plus we talking bout Mayweather who strikes back like a cobra. Go to youtube and look how fast his punches are.Don’t get me wrong manny is fast to but nowhere near mayweathers fast. BUT HE THROWS ALOT of more combos then Mayweather.
Pacquiao has beaten another BUM who is coming off a loss. Just as i stated in previous posts, which some of you were pretty upset about. The only fighter that pacquiao has faught in his entire career that had footwork and some kind of head movement was Marquez. But what really annoys me is that Pacquiclown sits there and calls out Mosley and Mayweather when turned downed fights with both of them. For whatever his bogus reason was for each, he walked away from both fights. I hope he fights Mayweather or Mosley. Cause IF and i mean IF he ever does hes going to get his ass kicked. Period!
We who love boxing have somethinh to cheer about….we have seen the best fighter of all time ……..and he is still getting better FMjr better hide under the bed no amount of blood testing will save him
infact if mayweather gets past Mosely, then his welterweight campaign will have surpassed Pac’s without question.
Wowza- we cant make these excuses for pac………he is absolutely feasting on these fighters in big name only…..sure he deserves credit for taking out the guys that are put in front of him……..lolol……but how is that ANY different from what Mayweather does????? But no one hesitates to call Manny “great”, while the same ones say that Floyd “cherrypicks”?????? Floyd moved up in weight just like Manny, and his welterweight campaign is no less impressive than Manny’s………what is the difference?????? …….lololol
Excuse me, at that time it was less than 2 years.
Manny is the greayest
So Pacquiao has never faced a WW before, but you want a guy, who less than 3 years ago was fighting at 130/135, to jump in and fight the best WW out there? A guy who, when he fought ODLH, people were calling Roach and Arum irresponsible for putting him in the ring w/someone so big. You want him to fight Hopkins next? Or Pavlik? Give the little guy some credit, you climb ladders one rung at a time, he just got to the WW division. Mayweather has been here (WW) for more than 5 years and hasn’t fought Cotto, Clottey or Margarito and is just now facing Mosley.
Now if you haters will excuse me, I’m going to watch the Celtics get their @ss beat.
Pac is doding what he ahs to do in the ring by beating what is put in front of him……………………I meant to say that Pac is doing what he has to do in the ring………
Ya I know, that was a compubox record. Margacheato is a great fighter though. You have to be good to throw those amount of punches, and what Pacquiao did, imo, was still crazy.
wowza- i understand what you say about Mosely, but why are we acting like Pac is beating world beaters??????? Pac is feasting on guys that are too slow or either well past their prime…………..Pac is doding what he ahs to do in the ring by beating what is put in front of him…….but these fighters are not comming into these fights with ANY confidence at all……and by you saying that Mosely was too high a risk, you are acknowledging that Pac’s recent fights are all low risk, hight reward….. so what can be said about that, that isnt said about Mayweather “cherrypicking”???????? If you guys can say without impunity that Pac is “great” for fighting these low risk, high reward fights……….then Mayweather is definately the greatest of all time………….lolololo
Wowza- Pac threw around 1200 punches in his fight last night against Clottey…………but Antonio Margarito threw close to 1700 punches in his fight against……guess who???????……Joshua Clottey too, so Pac hasnt done anything that actually hasnt been done or surpassed before.
Well at least Floyd knows the end is near. Just like 2012, Manny’s coming for you. Manny is faster, stronger, and has better endurance. With Freddie Roach, Manny is even smarter and more skillful than Floyd! DON’T CARE WHAT HATERS SAY! I’ve been watching boxing for over 40 years and the clock is ticking, Floyd’s end is near! Question I have is what will Floyd do after he is known like Joe Frazier is known, second best? Will he continue to fight? Retire? Because I’m a true fan of boxing I know after he retires, having lost to the greatest featherweight in history, he will be a humble man. And may never be the same again!!!
preston,
Mosley fight was high risk little gain. There wasn’t enough money in the fight, plus Pacquiao never faced a true welter before that. Even though Mosley lost to Cotto, he’s a better fighter, especially after Nazim, no argument there right? After Pacquiao beat Cotto convincingly, now I’m sure Roach has the confidence that he can take Mosley. Especially after last night’s fight.
Secondly, they fought Clottey for obvious reasons. They wanted a fight in March, and the top 5 WW were all gone. Mayweather fell through, Mosley/Berto had a fight, and Pacquiao just ravaged Cotto. Clottey was the next best decision, what are you harping on?
It’s Clottey’s and Arum’s fault that the fight was boring.
Good thing that I didn’t have to pay to watch this fight.
brutal punching- very true about roach’s comments about not enough money in the Shane fight, and then turning around and fighting Clottey?…………that just goes to show you that Team Pac is really taking advantage of these fighters who poise a threat to Manny in name only.
Wow, what a fight! This just proves one thing, how great Pacquiao really is. Averaging OVER 100 PUNCHERS PER ROUND! I seriously want you guys to absorb that, OVER 100 PUNCHES PER ROUND! In one round I think he threw 122 punches. If 90% of these bloggers threw 100 punches in a round, they’d puke.
People would argue that Clottey didn’t put up a fight, but the reality of the situation is he had nothing to hit! Great fighters make good fighters look like trash, that’s exactly what Manny did. Cover up like Clottey for a second, and imagine what he saw. Punches non stop coming at him, and no way to counter.
Half way through the fight Clottey had 2 choices. One lose the fight by decision, two open up and get KOd. He knew this, and decided to end things w/at least keeping his “never getting KOd” attached to his resume. Seeing DeJesus say “open up, take a risk!” and watching Clottey shake his head thinking “F*ck you, you fight him then!” LOL, precious. Round 10 Clottey almost got knocked down, though.
This brings up 2 points!
1. Pacquiao/Mayweather HAS TO HAPPEN! A busy fighter who can use a jab, contrary to what these bloggers say, vs. the best defensive/counter puncher! It will be crazy! Pacquiao would make even a Mayweather fight exciting, even I didn’t think that was possible.
2. Even though there was no KO that night, Max Kellerman needs to get his @ss kicked! Pacquiao should have decked him.
Peace.
OLI- Zab Judah…….David Tua…..David Reid…….Zahir Raheem……Calvin Brock…..Ike Ibeabuchi……Lamon Brewster…etc…and yours truly, Joshua Clottey, all belong in the same class of coulda, woulda, shoulda fighters.
@PRESTON, i have read the same article i agree with wat u are saying! Pacquiao will never face top notch fighters! and if the money is not der wiv Mosley hpw an earth is der with CLottey who is a 2nd tier fighter n hardly anyone has heard of him! n also is Mayweather stupid to fight Mosley ders clearly money in that fight! Roach really does contradict himself all the time…..
Joshua Clottey…i truly expected him to make a real serious argument out of it. It looked not like he COULDNT, but more like he DIDNT WANT to. Iv never seen him so passive and it surprised me.
Clottey is the ultimate WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN FIGHTER. He has all the ability in the world, but then inexplicably he just DOESNT do the job. I get the feeling he could have done better last night, was he happy to NOT win as long as he wasnt Ko’d like the rest?
“Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny,” Roach says. “I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn’t enough money there, and second, you’re too good a fighter.”…………………http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dwyre-pacquiao2-2010feb02,0,3406797.column
thompson
Pac also makes more mistakes than DLH of which Floyd would be more prone to capitalize on. I’m not suggesting that Floyd wouldn’t get hit but Floyd fights much much much smarter than Manny…so if Floyd’s challenge with pac is Pac’s power, I would be willing to bet that Floyd would use Pac’s power against him. Floyd does what he does better than Pac does what he does, there is no denying that. Listen I like Pac..he’s a humble likeable guy that is fun to watch, however that does not negate the fact that in my opinion he is a far lesser talent in the ring than Floyd.
Chadwick – what I realize, is that mayweathers next fight is against an opponent that Freddie Roach would not let Manny fight because he thought that Mosely was just “too good a fighter”. Floyd mayweather’s resume is littered with fighters that poised serious challenges at the time……..sure, he cast aside some like Gatti as c + fighters……………but Pacquiao recent fighters have ALL been bigger names, more than ANYTHING else. When will Roach will consider the fighter that Pac will be fighting to be “good”…………..when was the last time that Roach said that about Pac’s opponent? ……….we know that Roach said that Mosely was “good”………we know that roach said that he and Pac would have to execute the “perfect” gameplan to beat Floyd………..when Pac fights either one of those guys, then lets talk.
@motownhitman, true, Mayweather is more skilled than Clottey. No argument there. True, Floyd will hit Manny more than Clottey did. No argument there either. True, Pac will miss more with Floyd. HOWEVER, while Floyd is the fastest and most skilled fighter Pac has ever faced, Pac is the fastest and most skilled fighter FLoyd has ever faced. ODH hit Floyd plenty. Some jabs snapped Floyd’s head back. He won on on judges card and would have won the fight had he kept it up. Floyd is an amazing defensive fighter. No argument there. BUT he CAN be hit. Judah knocked him down(I know it wasn’t ruled a knockdown but it should have been). Make no mistake about it. Manny WILL hit him and it will be the hardest he has ever been hit, with speed, from unusual angles with a punch output of 100 punches per round. There are so many intangibles to this fight. And THAT is why it is so tantalizing to us fans and THAT is why they are going to cut up a $100M+ purse if they ever come to their senses and fight.
My lord, what a mess…the whole card STUNK. This is what boxing fans were treated to on one of the biggest stages; a disgrace from top to bottom.
Arum should be ashamed. He had 50,000 live bodies to entertain and gave them s**t fights. He told the fans Clottey would be Manny’s toughest fight? At least the stadium seemed cool.
@preston, you do realize that mayweather does the exact same thing with all of his opponesnt. Remember what he said about Gatt. C fighter. Predicted a mismatch. What he said about Juda, Baldomir, in fact can you remember an oponent Floyd faCED THAT HE didn’t do that with?
As for Manny, exactly who would you have had him fight if not Clottey. At the time, Mosely was signed to fight Berton so he was not available. Floyd wouldn’t fight him. (yeah I know, each side says the other guy is the one who killed the fight – ;et’s not get into that right now) Margariot could not get a license. Paul Williams was already fighting at middleeight.JMM already proved he was too small, and would be considered less of a challenge than even Clottey. Bradley? Well maybe, but Pac doesn’t fight guys lighter than him. Floyd has cornered that market. So exacactly who would you have had him fight, if not Clottey?
Motown the undercard was ruined by cry babies not wanting to have Margarito fight yet Mosley is given free passes for Roid use. Remeber Toney was suspended for Roid use, but Toney is not an Uncle Tom, Yes Sirrr type guy
Congrats to Pac for the win……he did what he had to do…….but when is Pac going to fight a serious challenger whom Roach wont be discounting as soon as the fight is signed????? Roach told everybody that Oscar was done as a fighter when Pac agreed to fight him…..Roach told everybody that Ricky Hatton was not going to poise a serious threat to Pac when they agreed to fight…….Roach told everybody that Cotto was damaged goods…..and Roach told everybody that Clottey was “not that good”……and true to what Roach was saying, Manny Pacquiao has feasted on these guys. But Roach would not allow Pac to fight Shane Mosely becasue he felt that Mosely was “too good of a fighter”?????…….and now we are getting set up again because even though Roach and Pac has talked about wanting to fight Mosely and Mayweather publicly, there are also the quiet chatter about Pac fighting Antonio Margarito in his next fight……and I for one, wont be fooled again…………unless Pacs next opponent is not named Mosely, Mayweather, Bradley…..hec, I would even take Valero, I wont be interested.
and the winner is!!!!!!!!
BOB ARUUUUUUUM…………..
Excuse me,Mr.Alex I have a question..Where we Find Mr.David Lahr
bec. We are waiting for his next Article about pacman after fights and Answer about in his Last prediction…IF you found him pls. tell him We are Waiting…Don’t Be shy,Accept the fact
PACMAN is the Best…Thanks
I was a bit disappointed with the undercard and the fight itself went the way I figured it would. The commentators even pointed out that Clottey fought they way he always does…he gets out worked…so no big surprise there. Pac is known to throw a lot of punches so no big surprise there either. Clottey going into his shell defense…no big surprise there.
The reality is that Pac’s face was in fact beat up a bit even though he wasn’t hit much. The difference between Floyd’s defensive style and Clottey’s is that Floyd makes you miss which is easier to capitalize on than someone that stands there and lets you hit their gloves and arms all night. If someone is allowing themselves to be hit all night they can’t mount much of an offensive game. Floyd would not stand there and let Pac hit him. He would use his feet more, use his shoulder roll and Pac would be swinging at air as opposed to arms and gloves all night. Just because Floyd is not big puncher he is more accurate than Clottey and takes advantages of mistakes his opponents make, mistakes that they make due to their respective style and mistakes that Floyd makes them make. Pac would get countered all night as opposed to having a guy stand right in front of him taking punches to the gloves, arms and body all night. To think that Floyd would not hit Manny more and make him miss more is foolish. And keep in mind it takes more energy to miss than it does to land and Floyd makes you miss more than anybody else.
ne body who thinks that if pac throws this manny punches and misses on clottey will put a wopin on mayweather has no idea about boxing. u throw that much n miss as many as manny did and ur getting pick apart by floyd
The problem with fighting Pac is that he takes your best punch with ease and still keeps on coming with high volume punches. I am amazed that someone who was a featherweight can fight like this against the best welter weights. It seems like Pac used to get hurt and cut more often in the lower weights than in the higher weights. Mayweather or Mosley would need to be prepared to deal with Pac’s high volume and power each round if they are to win. They would need to figure out how to win rounds because a strategy to KO Pac (which is what Clottey, Cotto and Hatton had) will not work.
@timberland, oh no! Not Graham again? lol. Is he still visiting these posts? Don’t be so hard on him. His posts provide amusement for the rest of us to enjoy. If you make fun of him too much he might not come back and no one wants that.
Pacquiao did what he needed to do to win the fight, so I commend and congratulate him on a well-earned victory. However, this fight confirms certain things, such as Pacquiao’s easily penetrable defense and his vulnerability to a good boxer and counterpuncher. I can see Mayweather just peppering him with straight rights and uppercuts in a fight between them. In ascending order of difficulty, Berto, Williams, Mosley, and Mayweather would all be extremely challenging opponents for Pacquiao. I think any of the four, especially Mosley and Mayweather, would beat Pacquiao.
To me, Clottey does not deserve another big fight. It would be unfair to ask fans to pay to see this guy fight again.
pacroid is a phoney !! over hyped, over rated, he is scared to fight mayweather or mosley… any one couldve beat clottey if he dont punch back..
Good article, I’m not even going to bother watching the fight as it sounds about as competetive as I expected it to be. I think i’ll download Captain Huck instead for my Sunday boxing catch up!
Manny is the greatest stop hating and start respecting this man has come up from 106 pounds and is mixing it up with guys who are much bigger than he is, stop making excuses clottey is a durable opponent who in my eyes won his last fight but the judges went against him. Pacman is a seven weight world champion who has fought the best around and will continue that if he takes on margarito or mosely, maybe floyd mayweather needs take some lessons of manny on how to actualy fight and not run all night.
Floyd needs to stop with this blood crap, and fight this guy. If he beats an upper level guy, WHO HAS NOT JUST PREVIOUSLY LOST A FIGHT, then I’ll give him respect. But if he keeps on fighting garbage, he gets no respect from me.
Floyd needs to man-up. If Clottey can walk away intact, after fighting this guy, (and land some nice shots of his own which exposed Manny a bit) then Floyd should loosen up his tightly clenched cheaks, and man-up, and fight this dude, and dispatch all this crap. I’m just disgusted with the commentators for not saying it for what it is.
chakyun. It does not kill me, that Manny beats less-than opponents. If you and the other cult followers, will be so loyal to somebody who beats tomatoe cans, and fights sparring partner level competition, than you show how gullible you are. YOU look the fool. The only thing that bothers me, is the boxing world regarding this charleton as some great fighter, when he continues to be given ppv events, and hits a heavy bag. He never fights anybody who has a remote chance at winning. No speed. No lateral movement. Just garbage cans that stand in the middle of the ring, and allow Manny to do what he wants. Freddy is really onto something here, choosing defeated fighters, then calling Manny some p4p king. Until the mainstream sports media calls him on it, he will continue to do it, and fly right under the radar.
@ 1BadMut
Racist? And no, I live in NYC now, though I used to live in LA and SF for a while. I’m not the one saying Manny is avoiding “AFRICAN-AMERICAN” fighters. What kind of BS is that? He’ll fight whoever, he doesn’t care what their race is.
“Keyboard Slugger”?? I’m sorry I’m not a street thug who prefers physical violence to logical debate. I’ll leave that affinity to you, my mans.
And he’ll almost certainly fight the winner of Mosley vs. Mayweather, so keep your conspiracy theories to yourself.
You know what I just realized? Manny’s never fought any pure-blooded Icelanders. He’s also never fought a Chiléan fighter either. I’m just saying………
…ryan
@jingles. If this is a buisiness that is about money, than why did Manny turn down 40mil, for 6mill?
I think the writer of this was pretty acurate. I just think the pac-cult hates anybody who brings question to Manny’s supposed greatness. Howis it a lack of knowledge, that he stated facts on Manny’s fight history. I’m sorry I spent the 49.95. I was utterly disgusted at Jimlamply and companies blather about how Manny was so great. They know his history. They know he’s fought less-than fighters. They knew it coming into this fight. They talked as if it were a surprise, that Clottey would be very defensive. I agree that Manny was the agressor, and presser of action, and therefor, the victor. What puzzles me, is how Clottey landed flush, clean shots on Manny, rocking his head back, and Manny could’nt do the same. Yeah, he was the agressor, but he did’nt win impressively at all. He also showed Mosley or Floyd, what shots he’s ripe for, as Clottey landed plenty of them, but obviously not enough to win.
All the commentators talking how Manny’s the best fighter evr, and all other nonsense is rediculous. I did’nt see Max, Jim, or Emanuel say anything about the level of comp Manny has been opting for. It’s really shameful.
Lets all listen to GRAHAM please. HE knows what he’s talking about regarding designer steroids. He has a degree in Advanced Biochemistry and Scientist of the year and decade.
And then he woke up.
Haha he makes a great case for how Pacman would deal with Mayweather in comparison of this fight. Stating Clottey covers up and has a low punch output and suspect endurance so the winner of this fight was never in doubt. Sounds like a very good decryption of his lover Mayweather. After this walkover against a true big welter and giving away a lot of weight its pretty much clear to see who the real deal is unless you enjoy watching a fraud fight small washed up guys that is and cheating the weight in the process. Joke!!!!!!!!!
Cant say im totally shocked and surprised. I had been trying to convince myself for weeks that this fight had a chance to be exciting when i knew all along that it didnt. Clottey was obviously there to collect his pay and not get knocked out. I just paid 60 bux to watch pac throw 1200 punches at a heavy bag.
3 crappy under cards and a completely one sided predictable main event, nice ppv arum. Worst 60 bux i ever spent in my life!
manny impressed me…his spped was ridclous…what people dont understand is that clottey did not throw because he was afriad to get hit……its not that he did not want to throw but manny speed and volume was clearly to much……
whats up pactards !! and long time boxing fans too !! i thought you tards said clottey was a worthy opponent.. he was a human statue, a hired punching bag if you will !! as a matter of fact the WHOLE card stunk of mismatches.. poo poo… how can yall give clottey a snowballs chance in h!@# of beating any top fighter…. im glad this rubish is over and manny can go do his parades and run for office in his country so people can focus on real fights…DON KING “WHERE ARE YOU”
the fight was rigged. Just watch clotteys gf reaction in the locker room before the fight. Clearly she was upset about something. Hmmmm. Fishy.
floyd will run faster…roach has already something ready for floyd if he fights manny…they always make adjustments against fighters…even if floyd hits manny, will it hurt him? on the other side, what if manny hits floyd, can he take it?
make the fight and i go for manny by UD.
To all Pacquiao haters,
Pacquiao success is really killing you all. What “envy” can do to a person? I guess all Mayweather loyal fanatic fans knows the answer to that question. No more excuses people, bring Mayweather/Pacquiao fight UNLESS Mosley beats him first. Pacquiao and Roach has just proven that sizes in boxing don´t matter. Training hard and discipline awarded you an easy fight.
pac is real,
This is nothing new in sports, “freaks of nature” have turned out to be PEDs users. So don’t get too excited.
After seeing this fight, I foresee pacman will be like a trailer truck if he fights May. It will definitely be a mismatch. You will see Pacman beating down mayweather as he runs away and throwing soft punches in a stone wall. People will definitely be laughable. So personally, a fight with mosley is definitely more impressive and more equal.
People are saying PBF is fast enough for MP as he has shown when he fought Zab Zudah, but comparing this fight to the prime Zab Zudah that Clottey has fought, MP can be described as a freak=of-nature.
Lastly, it showed how unbelievable Pacman is. While people are fighting against smaller guys with 5-10 pounds advantage inside the ring, Manny is doing the opposite. I think Clottey is very big during the fight that he is heavier than Pacman by 5-10 lbs.
@ graham,
yeah right! how sure are you that “A-side meth” can be detected by blood testing? Was it because of Pac’s belief that he lost to Morales on their 1st fight because of taking away blood very close to fight night? Can’t believe you fell for that. Grow up!
randy,
You will have to come to terms with this PEDs issue sooner or later. There is no need for you to set yourself up for a big disappointment.
Step away from Pacquiao for a minute and look at this olympic-style random blood testing debate as a real boxing fan.
so much for black fighters as having balls,cottey the most defensive or afraid fighter of them all.wonder if floyd can fight as big as he talks.
most likely these ped accuser are from the mayweather clan.
ha.ha.your blowing bubbles,pac cant help it the opponent lose before he got to them,remember they were rated in the top 7 I bet you he going to make mosley look old over night,and floyd will not want to fight pac anymore he know he lose badly,too bad pac didnt get knock out or beaten bad like a lot of writers said.
It was a bit of a let down to me. I expected Pac to win by decision. But, I didn’t expect Clottey to just give the fight away. I have NEVER seen Clottey so passive. These guys have way too much respect for each other to be fighting one another. It was a virtual love fest. Maybe he was intimidated, by the crowd, the pressure, or the reputation of Pacquiao. Whatever the case, that man did not have the fire in his belly, to bring his best into the ring tonight.
The fight was won on work rate, and Clottey NOT taking ANY risks.Pac followed the gameplan of Roach to perfection…just throw punches. While Clottey played catcher, all night long. So, where does Clottey go from here? Is he gonna remain a mere gatekeeper at 147 or his gonna move up like Cotto? I say he should try his luck at 154. Because, he doesn’t seem to want the belt.
unknown,
That’s the problem, these guys are using designer PEDs. PEDs that are designed to beat the drug tests. But on top of this, if you have someone like Pacquiao who is refusing to take a more advanced test and even asks for cut-off dates, then you are never going to catch the PEDs users.
I don’t quite understand why a lot of people are criticising Manny Paquiao here, I didn’t think it was a great fight to watch but from where I was sitting it looked like Clottey was being negative not MANNY PAQUIAO!!
Sorry folks I was just hallucinating. Floyd fighting PACMAN without the random blodd testing ?????? He has to get rid of his PAC phobia.
Actually, Floyd has a defamation case that he needs to defend and that would be good excuse to get out of the fight with Mosley. There will be an out of court settlement which would pave the way to a PACMAN/Floyd fight (without the random blood testing).
after seeing pacquiaos head movement and his defense againt right hand puches tonight i think mayweather would pot shot him all night with straight rights and win by UD
PACMAN ill not sign the contract him and roach do a whole lot of talking about what they would do if they had PBF in the ring but the deal is that PACMAN just wont sign the contract if they want to fight PBF that bad then they know what they have to do which they wont because they dont want the fight with floyd and when i say they i mean (BOB ARUM) ever since floyd left TOP RANK he has not fought a TOP RANK fighter because him and arum have bad blood there will be NO PACMAN VS MAYWEATHER if its not the blood test it will be something else.
Last I heard, it was Mayweather who doesn’t want to fight someone who has a chance of beating him even if the money offered is big. Rememeber the De La Hoya return bout which he nixed because he got a bad beating in the first fight, he is not even sure whether he can survive another bout like it.
Sane will happen to pbf. Hell be busy defending shoulder rolls, with that punching output he’ll be devastated.
steroid issue? i think testing after the fight is enough to determine if somebody is using steroid… which is ok with Manny… I don’t think Manny is stupid enough to use PEDS while training then not use it during the actual fight… if he does then he is fooling himself… thinking that he is that good during training (with PEDS)… then performing badly during the noght of the fight…
roach’s concern was that they would lose crucial training days after blood draws.
i work in an ER, and there are certain people who just don’t react well after their blood is drawn. i agree 14 days sounds reasonable.
however, if it’s going to affect his ability to train, i can see why manny doesn’t want to take the test so close to the fight.
A lot of people were disappointed how Clottey fought. But at least he was man enough to take on PACMAN. With PACMAN winning, it would be interesting what is going on in the mind of Floyd. Will he be making a major announcement in respect to his upcoming??? fight with Mosley in the coming weeks?
manny is a much more entertaining fighter than floyd. the fight tonite was boring because clottey was overly focused on defense just as mayweather is.
however, if you look back at manny’s performance during the last few rounds when a unanimous decision was a lock, manny was still attacking to give his fans a good show.
manny is a much more entertaining fighter than floyd and many casual boxing fans are captivated by his genuinely goodnatured personality.
manny is now the sports biggest draw. he was able to fill a huge stadium and he’ll draw good ppv numbers despite fighting a virtual nobody.
ZELIG
you know what getting inside someone head is just are part of boxing you will get no argument from me there. but you know they had no guarantee that manny was going to say NO to the blood testing and the issue that PACMAN had against morales was that he had blood drawn from him 1 day before that fight. Freddy roach said PACMAN gets weakened for about 3 days but the MAYWEATHERS gave them a 14 day window so there is no excuse why PACMAN didnt sign the contract. if i ever steped into the boxing ring i would want to make sure my opponent was not using drugs wouldnt you?
realistic:
manny didn’t become an international superstar until after defeating De La Hoya. His dismantling of DLH cemented this status and his following has now surpassed floyd;s.
Pacquiao with all his money made, should hire a private english teacher, hes trying so hard to speak english that people barely understands he doesnt even know what compromise is when asked by Kellerman regarding blood testing and he gave a different answer that made Max perflexed. Or better still he should use an interpreter like those latino fighters to make himself clear.
let’s be honest.
manny is not on PEDs. this whole thing was a ploy by Roger and Floyd Mayweather Sr. to tarnish the image of pacquiao and get into his head.
the mayweathers knew from manny’s loss to morales that manny blamed his loss on the blood test they took from him right before the fight. the commission lost his blood specimen and they had to redraw another sample the day before the fight.
right or wrong, manny feels the blood tests weaken him. this is the main reason floyd brought this issue up.
ZELIG!
well both pacquiao and mayweather fought de la hoya and what match has the record for all time ppv buys???????
floyd’s ppv argument is BS.
pacquiao vs cotto outgained mayweather vs marques. the only reason mayweather vs mosley will outgain pacquiao vs clottey is because mosley is a much more popular fighter than clottey.
pacquiao vs mosley would outsell mayweather vs mosley.
Mayweather VS Clottey > Sleeping Pills
does anyone know how many pay per view buys this fight got????
no, the article does not state that:
it states: “you need to do blood is because there are certain, and several, potent performance-enhancers that are not detected in the urine. Of those, human growth hormone being one; HBOC, which is synthetic hemoglobin; certain forms of EPO, like Micera; and then, the transfusions.”
however, when tygart is asked what could a fighter possibly gain in 3 weeks prior to a fight using these substances, he has no answer.
using HGH or EPO for 3 weeks is not going to yield any significant results. pacquiao agreed to a blood test 24 days prior to the fight and unlimited random urine test.
he also agreed to do what ever testing the NSAC asks for. mayweather needs to get his chicken ass in the ring and fight instead of try to do the NSAC’s job.
Here we go again another Floyd Mayweather Jr’s followers trying to tickle Manny Pacquiao fans. I mean come on you really think Floyd has a tougher body than Clottey. How will he cover up of Manny’s punches.
if Pacquiao and Mayweather will fight, Pacquiao should decide how the split is gonna happen, it doesnt matter what the number in the ppv, because he is no name yet, Pacquiao is the ww champion, champion should decide everthing period!
There is no way to predict the outcome of a Manny vs PBF battle. Both of these fighters have the skills to pull off the win. PBF has mad boxing skills, but doesn’t have the power to put Manny away. Manny has superior offensive skills, but can he hit PBF enough to win the fight or KO him? They both have speed, but at the moment Manny has more impressive wins at WW then PBF does.
I think the PBF vs Mosley fight is going to be the determination of whether PBF is really that good at WW. Mosley is the arguably the best WW in the business right now and if PBF dominates Mosley than Manny is going to have his hands full fighting PBF, but if PBF has problems with Mosley or even loses than he shouldn’t even think about getting in the ring with Manny.
@ wanted
It’s not Manny’s job to impress you but he did impress the judges, which what really matters. Thanks for watching the fight anyways.
Pacquiao is clean it doesn’t matter how you turn the world HE IS CLEAN!, he is willing to give blood, and unlimited urine….I guess that what’s all the Pac haters have, nothing else against him. They can’t accept he won again against true WW fighter!
its gon b real simple if floyd has a good ppv showing hel demand 60/40 splitt. and pac will refuse. then hel make it a 50/50 split but pac would have to go threw the random blood tests. these guys couldve fought today. but after they fight whos next its jus ahype job fo whats goin to happen at the end of the year. i mean look at how much buzz they have
and in the same article it says that u cant find some steroids in urine but only threw blood
when u throw 4 or 5 combinations it leaves u unbalanced and open to a counter shot. now floyds pin point wit his accuracy. if they fight roach or the ref will stop the fight by 9th round
here is an excerpt straight from the article:
” there are certain things that you’re not going to find in the blood, that you can only find in urine, like most forms of EPO, steroids, designer steroids, insulin.”
manny has offered unlimited urine tests.
“Money” needs Manny plain and simple, “Money” should be looking fighting Pacquiao not running around in circle fighting dildos!
To all manny haters. So wat if he is using PED?all we know is that he never felt a drug test. So does it make a difference if he’ll have a blood test after the fight With Floyd? All experts says that any drugs Can trace even it was taken months back. I don’t know where Floyd is coming from. We want this 2 to fight so that we know who is the best p4p fighter
this is not about PED’s Pacquiao just too good and he hasn’t found his match yet, I don’t think Mayweather has the same level as Pacquiao!
We should be looking a fighter that same style as Pacquiao, we should be looking at Edwin Valero, not Mayweather or Mosley so that we see a real fight!
This fight is no match at all!
how is manny wer the money is?. he made 12 mill in this fight. i think floyds tripling that.mosely made more money fightin floyd then manny did in this fight. clottey made 1.5 mil. thats no were near wat moselys getting. today manny won the fight and all ppl talk bout is floyd. thats where the money is
To all the PAC haters, please get off his d**k and give him his due respect. yeah he whooped clottey as expected but he threw 1200+ and dominated like nobody as ever did against one of the best Def. sorta like pbf did marquez.
To all the PBF haters, “honestly” the worst of all, YOU must not know boxing if you cant appreciate what he does. him and pac are 1-2 however you put it (sorry mosley) but PBF does what he does better than anybody in the game right now. You might call it boring but its the smartest way to box (not most exciting) and NO ONE TOOK HIS #1 SPOT any way you look at it.
TO all the real boxing fans, just hope that they (PBF vs PAC) fight sometime this year and hopefully its close enough that they fight again. bcuz it really is an epic fight that must happen. I mean, pwill, berto, mosley at 147, I like all of em BUT they’re not PAC or PBF
I love MP but he shouldn’t fight Floyd because style make fights Floyd would love Manny to throw agressive 4 or 6 punch combos for he can lay back in his slick stance a catch him with a counter punches all fight long .
when did u become a fan of boxing buddy. get ur shyt right. its a obviouse fatc that steroids are way more advanced right now. and if u didnt know that i think that make su retarded
Well again, thats your opinion. But Manny Pacquiao was awesome. 50,000 people saw what boxing power and talent is all about. Manny Pacquiao is fighting in a higher level than his opponent in his weight. Thats what makes him different from every boxer in his category. Manny Pacquiao is the best thing that happen to boxing this days. And Manny Pacquiao is where the big money is. Mayweather, Mosley and all welterweight contender knows this. He have beaten 7 world champions in 7 different weights and those boxers were not worn out or has been fighters, they were the best in their division and Manny have beateb them clearly. Even on TV, we could feel Pacquiao’s power in his punches. What else could I say but AWESOME.
ok go to google and type. travis tygart grand rapids press
and read what this guy says. hes the chief exceutive of the united states anti doping asosication. u bird
that’s what i thought. you really know what you’re talking about you anonymous retard
you idiot. please tell me what you can take to wash steroids out?
manny also agreed to take unlimited urine tests which are sufficient to test for anabolic steroids. know your facts.
@who dat. How can u hit the guy that all he did was to cover his face. Pacquiao got no chance with Floyd “scary” mayweather? If I am Floyd il find any excuses not 2 tarnish his 0 lose. If he too face manny da score card will be like manny vs clottey. Il say it’s unsided fight but atleast clottey did not chicken out not like Floyd.
Pac should never be in with these type of fighters. All defense no offense. It has the makings of a snoozefest. I’d rather see Pac Mosley or Williams rather than Mayweather. It’s gonna be a very boring fight.
yes ur right zelig. theres nothin. go read p on ur shyt dimwitt. theres shyt that can wash it out in less then 24 hours.
any body who thinks this fight was a dominating statement by manny is jus insane. u dont dominate a fight by missing about 1000 punches. u guys get excited cuz he throwin glove. but that shyt gotta land son. if he threw that much against loyd and missed floyd would tear him apart. this guy wud fit right into floyds plan. when they fight, then u guys will see a dominating fight.
what the hell are you talking about? there is nothing you can take to wash steroids out of your system.
zelig
its called random bood testing. tha means he wont know when hes getting tested. u duno shyt. if he know when the tests coming he can use shyt to wash out the roids. and after the fight dun count. becauyse he cud b off the roids and clean comne fight night
Dave Lahr,Chris W.,Esteban G where are you?
dirtymouth:
manny has taken blood tests several times in the past and always has tested negative for PEDs. manny also agreed to take a blood test immediately after the fight, which would show if he was on PEDs.
why won’t floyd accept these terms, which are above the nevada state athletic commission drug testing requirements? mayweather needs to shut up and fight.
Pacquiao vs Clottey match is the preview of the Pacquiao vs Mayweather..
If you think the fight with Clottey was lackluster.. Wait until you see the fight with Mayweather (boring)..
One guys hides behind his shell.. while the other will runs like the wind..
Pacquiao vs Mosley.. fight of the year.. Dont want to see 12 rounds of dancing.. I hope Mosley Knocks Out Mayweather in the midst of dancing around.. hahahaha
throwing wild unches and missing is nt exciting. that bar fights
i would jus like ot the that the fight went as expected. but if manny threw 12 huned punches and landed 200 of them. how much u think hed land on floyd?. and if u throw 12 huned bunched n u have a 75% chance of missing floyds gon catch u.
I’m waiting to see what Dave Lahr is going to write about! Can’t people just appreciate Manny’s abilities without hating just like they request that everyone else appreciate PBF’s abilities without hate.
I think someone should tell clottey that the idea of boxing is to actually throw punches, i think he has a misunderstanding about the sport.
There is still manny haters in here talking crap? Damn, they must have bought the PPV to watch the fight and comment so quickly.
Is this suspected PEDs user going to retire now? or is he going to continue to drag the sport of boxing through the mad?
It’s time for him to go!
ha,funny how pac make all these fighter that most think are going to kick pac behind.look like 3 class fighter,bet you he make mosley get old over night and floyd if he ever fight pac will run all night defense fighter after they get rock lose the will to counter,pac was throwing combination and dropping his hands waiting to cottey to counter so he could knock out cottey.but the clam stayed shut so no knock down tonight,shuck….
am disappointed in J clottey. it was obvious he came 4 a payday. To ya all haters of manny pray that floyd or mosley never fight him!
class fugate bloggin at his best.
hey i know you have this blog written 5 weeks ago you just added the result of this fight at the beginning to make it look like a news piece but nothin different from all your pacquiao-hatin mayweather-nut-romancin blogs. hey fugate i heard paquiao’s makin 12mil, clottey 3 mil and me i won $1k from this fight how much you get paid from this garbage blog ei fugate?
that’s not true paul.
if you browse through recent posts by dave lahr and esteban garduno, they both foolishly predicted clottey would tear manny apart.
manny’s speed is so overwhelming that he made a very good fighter in clottey look ordinary.
floyd is the only fighter that i believe that has the speed to effectively challenge manny in the welterweight division. however, if floyd tries to play too much defense as he usually does, he will get outpointed by manny.
@Writer
A Mosley victory will result in a Mayweather/Mosley rematch, should Floyd want it, and it would mean Manny (if he remains active) will need to take a different opponent this Fall altogether. Berto is a possibility. Valero or even Margarito also possible.
…ryan
manny dont need fm .clottys a good fighter floyed wont fight clotty.
You can’t call Pac a great fighter for fighting this level of competition, lets face it nearly every one on this site thought Pac was going to win, he needs Mayweather and Mayweather needs him, plain and simple.
clotty is a tuff man good defence .clotty makes every one look bad floyed could not do any better .clotty hit manny hard with some upper cuts .to bad floyed ducked clotty .
ok ok, i will make it easier, pac fight berto? d@mn, pac fight the guy on the corner, just somebody. hey, what happened to ALL the action? Lame, Boring, Over hyped, Complete mismatch. admittance is the first step buddy to healing. Are you ok? Its not your fault. Youve been wronged, come lay your head on my shoulder and cry it out lol, pac beat a bum who didnt fight lmao.
I love boxing but I was very dissapointed. It was the first time I’ve started yawning during a Pacquiao fight.
If Clottey had let his hands go this could have been a competitive (well, more competitive) event., he was touching Pac, of course Pac was countering six to one. What if Clottey got countered & Pac knocked him on his behind? So what. He’s a tough guy but no one has ever mistaken him for an elite fighter.
Clottey came to collect a check, no more, no less.
On a positive note; The fact the fight drew over 50,000 attendance shows boxing still has a pulse & could potentially draw large numbers & gain fans if events were held in big venues around the country.
Will that happen? Personally I think Arum is perfectly happy riding in his limo the six miles from his house to the MGM & receiving a fat site fee from the casino. This event seemed an attempt by Arum to clean the egg off his face when Goldenboy & Co. cancelled a meeting with Jerry Jones, billionaire stadium owner, during the Pac/ Mayweather negotiations.
Arum wants a seat at the next Billonaire Boys Club Barbeque down in good old Texas & kissin Jones a** is a sure way to confirm an invitation.
That’s what Clottey is all about, what else did you people expect?
Sorry if you wasted your money on this fight but you should have known better.
MAY WONT FIGHT MARTINEZ OR PAUL OR CINTRON.
SHOULD BE 39-1
This was the worst PPV in the history of boxing. The undercard was just boring. The main event was also very boring.
@Who Dat
You’re a funny guy, classic styles.
Manny won’t get hit nearly as hard by EITHER Mosley or Mayweather. And why is it that Clottey was able to put his defense and offense together to beat Corrales, Judah, and arguably win over Cotto, and almost unseat brick-fisted Margarito? Seems like he was able to impose his will on those guys but not Manny.
Is that because Pacquiao is a bum?
Did I mention you’re a funny guy?
And why the hell would Pacquiao fight Paul Williams? Such a physique mismatch. It sucks for P-Will, but his size and stature is his own worst enemy. He’s not nearly as good as you make him out to be, just ask Quintana or Martinez.
Stop obsessing over the black American fighters. It makes you look racist and ignorant, and transparent. Or maybe you’re cool with that?
…ryan
i think you should save up your nuts son.
did someone take your RIGHT nut? coz the last time i checked you are willing to give up your LEFT nut.
bang bang!
JOSE LUIS CASTILLO……JOSE LUIS CASTILLO… THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 40_0 HAHAHAHA
Marquez………… thats all I have to say, MARQUEZ……….. what you say? Oh yeah, you remember, offense and defense lol……. MARQUEZ……….Bang Bang thats how boring and one way this fight was, never in the history of boxing has such jokingly commentary happened lol, band bang MARQUEZ…………..
Marquez………… thats all I have to say, MARQUEZ……….. what you say? Oh yeah, you remember, offense and defense lol……. MARQUEZ……….
Bob Arum probably decided the result, demanding that Clottey take a dive to ensure and drumbeat Pacquiao next bout with mayweather.
GOOD JOB, BOB! Job well done.
lol at the suckers who actually paid for the PPV. The undercard was st (omg JLC actually quit on his stool during a totally uncompetitive fight…wtf??).
The main event wasn’t even an event. It was a workout session open to the public featuring Pac practicing on a human heavybag.
The whole thing was a total snoozefest.
And people cmplain about Floyd’s fights? Smh.
For the record!
Bang, Bang, Bang!
Lenny Dejesus did claim that Clottey might be scared of Pacquiao power!
So that makes Clottey a scared fighter!
So since Clottey is a scared fighter, how does this solidfy Pacquiao’s win?
Also Clottey was known to have never been able to win the big one!
So you just to put it down for everyone
Pacquiao fought a scared fighter who always chokes and doesnt throw punches in big fights!!
man that Manny Pacquiao is the Greatest of All Time!
ISnt that a shame!
Bang Bang!!!
@ who dat?
the truth of the matter is floyd mAYweather is scared of manny. end of story. if he was half a man he would fight manny no matter what.
he cant fight fighters who encompasses offense and defense period! All Clottey had was defense. But when Clottey did throw, he knocked the $hit out of pac, every time and even the commentators saw it and commented about it. Don’t hate me, hate your dude for not being able to fight.
Mosley and Mayweather are the only two fighters in the world that have a chance to beat Pac Man. Simple as that. However, this fight was an embarassmant to Top Rank, boxing fans and especially Clottey. Clottey did not even show up and never took a SINGLE chance. He laid down before the fight ever started. That was a glorified sparring session and it was not even a good one.
THe Cotto & Hatton fights were entertaining atleast. THis was ridiculous.
And also, Cotto, Mosley, and Clottey are ALL stronger punchers than Floyd, that’s a fact. So since Manny took Cotto’s best shots, Clottey’s best shots, and Cotto took Mosley’s best shots and won, I guess Pacquiao doesn’t have to worry about getting hit with a big shot and being afraid to open up against Floyd.
If Floyd is going to beat Manny, he will have to fight Manny’s fight, simple as that. Either that or he’ll need to find a way to include in his contract that the judges will be Roger Mayweather, Floyd Mayweather Sr. and Oscar De La Hoya.
I wouldnt’ put it past him.
…ryan
Bob Arum probably had a hand on this, demanding that Clottey take a dive to ensure and drumbeat Pacquiao’s next bout with mayweather.
Nice job, Bob!
looser clottey is african. nowhere close to African-American, a whole different mindset and mentality! even his intro music was wack, i was like wtf is he listening to dancing to lol. Floyd, Shane, P. Williams, can pac step up? ill make it easy ok. to beat floyd he has to fight the perfect fight. Shane, he is too good of a fighter. Can littel pac man fight P. Williams?
This Who Dat troll will talk on both sides of his mouth, here’s the first side:
“if me and you fought, you dont punch, i bet my left nut i would destroy you”
And here’s the other side:
“he can’t fight defensive fighters”
So which is it buddy? Is it that he can’t fight a defensive fighter, or is it that if he punches while the other guy is defending, then he will destroy them?
Or is it really just that you’re an African-American who resents Manny because he doesn’t fight African-American fighters? Let’s get the truth out now, because your trolling is becoming as comical as Jim Lampley.
…ryan
Roach, we predict a KO by the 8th or 9th lmao. Pac gonna overwhelm him with his speed and power lol. my tivo dvr working well, did anybody see that lol? this was comical, arum should pay me for my bandwidth streaming bandwidth online lol, you know i wasnt about to pay to see a one sided fight did you? i told you clowns, arum did his best to hype this up to be competitive. us real boxing fans knew this was nothing close to competitive lol. pac beat a bum, so what!
@ Who dat
Plus Pacman just proved he can beat African-American fighters. He beat an ORIGINAL African for God’s sake.
Ghana is in Africa if you didn’t know.
who dat…. if we fought and you punched back I BET both your nuts you will get your ass handed to you!
are you a janitor in BGS crap you said? sounds like you are our janitor in my office.
i guess nobody would watch clottey fight again.
if what he was saying before the fight that he will do his best to beat pacquiao was true, then it would have been evident in the fight.
for pacquiao, bang bang!
Clottey did not try to win the fight.
@ Who dat
Lol you get off the drugs. Clottey didn’t punch, and he admitted it, because Pacquiao catch him with combinations.
And for clean punches..you saw the numbers.
Floyd if he opens will end up the same. Out pointed.
Mosley if he trades will never see Jin again.
We saw the same thing..Pacman can take punches like they were nothing. Those “clean” punches didn’t hurt or bother him.
since when has may been a ko threat @ 147? yeah he will land his arm punches against pac but does that mean he will hurt him? not to sure about that. pac will be to busy catching floyd “Usain Bolt” mayweather.
Pacquiao vs. Mosley/Mayweather…God, I hope Fraud wins just so that the world will finally see how much of a runner/quitter/coward he really is!
Doesn’t matter. The outcome will be the same: 51 have tried and 51 have failed.
@stoney
what kind of national pride are you talking about when clearly their fighter was just hiding behind his gloves afraid to fight out of his wits. it would have been better that he went down fighting than not to have fought at all. lol.
People… are you blind this is all i have to say again!!
Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang…
This whole fight was a joke, Clottey showed up to get paid!
Your fight for a world title against “P4P” the best fighter in boxing and you let him out point you!
When the fight was announced you said hmmmm maybe Clottey could do it. But all this friendly bs, is just unheard of! tapping gloves after every round and before every round seemed more like a sparring session to me!!
then after the fight Clottey smiles at Pacquiao and gives him a hug!
WTF!!!
This was a world championship fight and these guys were talking and smiling like everything was all good and they knew what was going to happen!
Top Rank should be ashamed of themselves!
i want my 60 dollars back! LOL
@ Valero , get off the drugs buddy lol. clottey swolled pac eye rarely punching, thats a fact, because pac dont have the defense mind to get out of the way, and thats why floyd or shane will destroy this dude. u saw the fight just like me, pac couldnt land a CLEAN shot against this bum, what in the hell do you think he could do against shane or floyd lmao. dont be mad at me because he cant fight defensive fighters.
just ignore the person alias WHO DAT
coz an idiot will always be an idiot
like the alias itself.
@Who Dat?
Dude, you’re killing me here. Pacquiao looked like trash? This is exactly what will happen with Floyd. He will be too afraid to take a risk and Manny will outpoint him round after round.
And since when do you frown on “outpointing” someone? Isn’t that EXACTLY how Mayweather fights? You contradict yourself. Mosley stands a better chance to hurt Manny. Floyd doesn’t have a prayer to do anything but look like Clottey did tonight. Judges don’t give you points for avoiding your enemy and hiding behind your gloves, sorry to say.
And for Manny to throw 4, 5, 6 and 7 or 8 punch combinations in every single round…. SHOW me a fight where Mayweather or Mosley came even close to that. You’re looking at a fighter in Pacquiao on a different level my friend. You’ll see this Fall with your own two eyes, just like the writers who thought Clottey would “tear Pacquiao apart” witnessed tonight.
…ryan
Pacquiao vs Mosley would be more exciting than Pacquiao vs Mayweather. Mayweather is just as boring as Clottey.
@ Who dat
You Sir are a MUPPET. Pacquiao made Clottey submit. PERIOD. Clottey knew that if he opened up he would have been KO’ed.
When Mayweather, Mosley, or Williams trade with Pacman they will end up like all the rest.
ON THEIR BEHIND!
and lets be honest lol, when clottey did decide to punch, he rocked cleanly pac head. thats the difference between pac and floyd lol, pac gets hit easily by sucker punches, floyd rolls away from it. if clottey would have thrown more punches he could have taken this fight lol. pac versus me lol that would be good, but pac versus floyd or shane would be murder lmao.
I hope Mosley will win and fight Manny Pacquiao, and have a fight of the year event. mayweather should fight clottey and see who is a better coward amongs themselves.
@Who Dat?
So a fight where one guys covers up and hides behind his gloves too afraid to throw counters while the aggressor throws over 100 punches per round bores you?
Are you looking forward to Mayweather’s next fight?? And what would Floyd have to do to win a round against Manny, I wonder? Just curious how you might take knowledge from this fight and apply it to that one.
…ryan
It takes two to tango. Clottey is just too afraid to take chances. Pac was impressive, Clottey …
Jims Bang Bang comments had me ROTFL, was the most exciting moment of the fight!! I like Clottey, But he KNEW he was out classed from rd 4 on!! He was in it to keep his pride for his people by not falling victim to PACS
KO rating!! GOD BLESS HIM, he accomplished it. Clottey could take Mosley and Mayweather, and could hurt them, just by the style factors!
and the funny part about it all is that pac didnt whoop clottey lol, he only out pointed him because clottey didnt throw any punches, and pac looked like trash against this dude. too funny lol, pac beat, i mean out pointed a bum lol, this dude will get killed by shane, floyd or p. williams lol. a complete scrub.
“Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, you dont want to throw anything back bang, bang, bang, bang, here you go three, four punches bang, bang, bang, bang” LOL Jim Lampley
Never in my life have i seen a commentator get so frustrated at a fighter that he starts screaming bang, bang, bang! LMAO This fight was a joke, Pacquiao fought a punching bag. How do you out punch your opponent by 832 punches! LOL
There was no animosity before the fight not even at the weight in, where Clottey and Pacquiao couldnt even stare each other down without laughing. Clottey was just happy to be there and get his pday!!
All 4 fights sucked!
i want my money back!
Pacquiao vs. Mosley will be a slug fest, better than mayweather.
ho ho, UD is far from expectation KO Joshua, floyd jnr comes everything will be finished, come on do random test if there is nothing to hide
For the record, I’ve submitted my article about the fight to the editor, hopefully he puts it up. A no-content announcement of the pacquiao fight would be disgraceful.
…ryan
How can you have an exciting fight with Pacquiao if one guy’s only goal in the match is not to get knocked out??
Respect to Clottey though… Class act..
Clottey is the “MASTER PUNCHING BAG” boxer lmao
Didn’t see it but glad I didn’t pay for a boring fight…Mayweather and shane will be better…pac man sucks…he is a fake a cheat
Manny Pacquiao was fighting a punching bag with stick (clottey). I think mayweather, floyd will wait till they become senior citizen and slug it out for senior olympics. I floyd wins mosley, a super fight will happen with floyd wearing his jogging shoes, cuz he will be running and hide.
it was a boring fight since clottey just cowered the whole 12 rounds. he was probably in it just for the money. he figured he was gonna loose anyway so why bother fight and have his already ugly face rearranged by manny. he does not deserve the 3 million dollars he will be paid. if he really is a fighter he should be ashamed to disappoint the paying public. it was a fight not worth watching thanks to cowardly clottey. he should be called clitty from now on. worst title fight i have seen.
Sorry Guys!!! I big deciding factor in a fight w mosley or AfraidWeather!!! and that is. True its hard for pac to hit cleanly a defensive boxer.BUt unlike Clottey. Shane will be aggressive and will be hit and overwhelmed(like DLH)!Mayweather, will run for cover, counter punch, but will be very accessible to be hit, many times cuz he dont throw enough, Mayweather CANNOT do to Pac what he did to Marquez!! End results, Imo Pac can have his way w both!
clottey didnt let his hands go, seem more like he was in it for the payday. sad! i expected more outta the grandmaster.
What type of fight would floyd have had with clottey? a ko? hahaha. when was the last time he put out that many punches?
bang bang want some more bang bang bang how bout now bang bang
cmon man, he cant get close?……..lame ass comments! did he take any punishment? floyd would run and retreat!
a guy dont punch and the best you can do is sometimes hit him in the ribs lol. complete garbage.
clottey didnt want to be a ko victim lol…
mayfeather is f*cked!!
floyds defense isn’t better then clottey’s! he relies on his reflexes & the shoulder roll. that’s easier to penetrate.
Thats it! That is all that is put up. No comments, no admitions of how stupid and how wrong the boxing analysts on this site have been?
Cowards!
this was a complete waste of a fight. top rank should be giving money back to the people who attended the fight lol clottey has solid defense. pac can not get close to a defensive fighter and it showed. after watching this, if there is anybody who believes pac has a chance against shane or floyd is only fooling themselves. he looked like garbage against a guy who didnt punch lol.
I guess lahr, esteban and all the other haters can’t back peddle that fast.
mayweather is just as boring as clottey! let’s see if may proves all the “haters” wrong! floyd “boring” mayweather! hahahaha.
a boy the pacman boy!
The critics were rite pac was fightin a rock a solid hard rock!!!
come on Pac haters, whats the excuse this time
to all the doubters of Pacquiao now you can SHUT your CAKEHOLE…and never post any comment stating the reason why Clottey lost.
terrible fight, but what else would you expect
Complete Bullshi! of a fight lol. Pac can not hit a defensive fighter at all. Shane and Floyd would easily destroy this dude. This fight was BORING with a capital BORING!
Impressive and boring at the same time…