Mayweather praying for Pacquiao victory?
March 3rd, 2010
By Gary E G: During yesterdays press conference for the Mayweather/Mosley bout, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer stated his believe that the fight could top 3 million PPV buys. While this prediction might seem excessive there is no doubt it’s going to be huge. But how much could the outcome of Manny Pacquiao’s March 13th square off with Joshua Clottey affect the numbers?
If Pacquiao hands Clottey a beating later this month, the hype machine will be turned up a notch with all eyes turned to May 1st to find out who’s the man to fight the man. If on the other hand he loses to Clottey it will take the edge of the excitement and maybe some of fans converted to boxing by Pacquiao’s recent exploits(and as a consequence despise Mayweather) may be turned off.
Now im not suggesting Floyd will be watching March 13th with rosary beads in his hands but surely a win for Manny is good for Money.
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Mayweather got knocked out in sparring? If so by who?
Where did you get the information?
Did you know I once knocked out Shane Mosley?
@ jaysmooth pacquiao had a few rematch fights in his career but all of them were demanded by the fans and none of them have a rematch clause. He fought MORALES 3 TIMES until eric said no mas. He beat Barrera twice. JUAN MARQUEZ now thats the fight i want to see for the 3rd time. All these fights were good fights because its not forced fights ( rematch clause- a contract).
A question for you. What are the reasons for FLOYD asking a rematch clause?
@ jaysmooth
@John Charles
HOw childish?
HOw biased?
Its biased because you sit her and put facts and opinions that are really personal hatred for Mayweather. You are not a boxing fan.
How childish, bc u live in a what if world and not reality.
@mrdhavidee
no, you come on with the rematch garbage you just wrote. How many times did Manny fight Morales in 1 yr. Three times, so for you to talk about rematches that is stupid..Hold on I am not finished how many times did Manny fight Marquez. Two times and would have fought him a third time if Marquez wouldn’t have said he would ask for random drug test. So, please don’t try to use a rematch clause which was agreed by both parties..If Shane didn’t think it was something he wanted he would have refused it. I am pretty sure he would not have refused to fight because of it..
kray,
Of course he hasn’t said he’d KO Mosley, because there’s no chance in hell that would happen. I say Mayweather by UD, but not by KO. He couldn’t do it to ODLH or JMM, Mosley is a big tough guy, I don’t think PBF has the power to do it now. 5 years ago, he’d probably get a KO though.
u shoud fight with amir khan
@mrdhavidee says:
March 3, 2010 at 12:48 pm
If pacquiao wins by a KO , do you really think that floyd will fight manny then? I don’t think so . You will see the MAYWEATHER jr and sr come up with very interesting excuses. you’ll see.
I think you got your boxers mixed up? Manny is the one that fights beaten fighters or the ones that Mayweather had already beat. So, i guess we will see Manny vs Mosley when Floyd easily expose Shane. Hilarious
@JAYSMOOTH
“Why did you put that Fact and Opinion Garbage on this site..Be real about what you say and quit be bias. Its really childish.”
– Really childish? How so?
Bias? How so?
Your comments are funny. But i don’t feel like laughing. I like that “your mom is a man she’d be your daddy” analogy. Very mature. It’s quite funny. Yet again i don’t feel like laughing.
cheers.
I don’t think PBF is, exactly, praying for a Pacquiao victory. But, I don’t think he would mind making another $40 million or more. Manny’s been doing just as much talking about Floyd, lately, as Floyd has about him. If there wasn’t a true rivalry before the negotiations, there is, definitely one now. It has to be settled.
I don’t think Floyd is scared of either Manny or SSM. In the boxing world, inside and outside of the ring, he has proven to be SMARTER than both of them. If he beats both of them, there should be no question, who is the best. But, of course, there will be.
IMO, if he beats SSM, he will beat Manny. Neither one of those fighters have anymore than a puncher’s chance to defeat him. Neither of them are technical, cerebral fighters. If they can’t land squarely enough to hurt him, and keep him hurt, he will outbox them both. Although Manny and SSM both have heart and physical gifts…in their career’s, neither has appeared to have learned to OUTTHINK a fighter with as much ring smarts, as the trainers in their corners.
What I like about Floyd, is that he has not said that he will KO Shane. He understands he’s fighting a bigger man, who is stronger, very fast, and hits harder. And he respects those advantages. But, he knows it will come down to ONE thing…RING SMARTS. So, unless he somehow finds an opportunity to KO SSM, he’s going to take his time, feel out his opponent, and make adjustments on the fly.
@ Fighter says:
March 3, 2010 at 11:51 am
Wonder why Mayweather asked for bigger gloves? From his standpoint, it will lessen the impact of Manny’s blows, and slow him down a bit. Why else would he ask for this? If this is true, I’m starting to see through Floyd’s nonsense, and am leaning more and more towards beleiving he is just plain scared. Just like he was when Shane came into the ring. He we pet. He swollowed hard and everything..LMAO!!!
LOL..guy you are very funny..Didn’t De La Hoya asked Floyd to use 10oz Gloves when they fought in 2007. So, i guess De La Hoya had brittle hands to huh. because based on your logic thats exactly what you are saying.
@Jaysmooth
Another great post!!!
@Reidj
Why are you still saying if the earthquake never happened? The fact of the matter is it did happen and we still have to fights in March and May. It is getting very annoying to continue to hear people like yourself say he was forced into this fight. If the earthquake didn’t happen, he would have fought a C-class fighter or some other BS like that. No, one knows what would have happened for all we know, he may have went up to 154 fought P. Williams or Yuri Foreman. We don’t know so stop if all the if this and if thats and he was forced to do this and forced to do that. Be if your mother was a man she would be your daddy. But, she isn’t a man and she isn’t your daddy.. So get over it and enjoy the two fights.
@John Charles
Why did you put that Fact and Opinion Garbage on this site..Be real about what you say and quit be bias. Its really childish.
floyd is thinking way ahead of everybody. He demanded a rematch clause in the contract !Come on floyd . That is just pure insecurity right there! If he loses, he can redeem himself and ask a rematch. If he wins , he can fight mosley again to excuse himself from fighting PACQUIAO! wHAT a genius. Floyd you have outdone yourself once again.
I’m telling you guys weatherspoon jr and his fans are making excuses already . this is what I think. If floyd wanta olympic style testing then they should also have olympic style fight and reward. Three rounds of boxing and the winner gets gold medal and the loser gets silver. How about that? Sounds ridiculous ? It is – silver is not enough to pay floyds IRS depts!!!
None of this Mayweather/Pacquiao crap talk is gonna matter after May 1st because SugarShane is going to whip chikenwing’s ass.
I like Manny because he is fun to watch but his rise is nothing more than Rocky Balboa’s. It’s called the hype machine…much easier to hype up a little guy from a third world country into this superstar…only in America!
hey fight doctor why would manny fight ss mosely when cotto whoop mosely as? manny is a fighter who loves to fight and during that time cotto is the best fighter with title and winning over cotto would mark his name in history 7th DIVISION World title. that is what you call pride and glory not for money if you still cant understand that “boink”
Hey Honestly….Crackhead Mayweather sr started that rumor.How can you say it came from an intelligent source.I guess iron Mike was on peds too when he was knocking out all those big duds.Why can you accept that your boy is not man enough to fight,maybe for 40 million he will give Pacman a bj….lol
Hey smart move…………You sound like Mayweather sr.You guys are dead bit crack heads.Why don’t you just say Pacman is on Kryptonite.You sorry ass morons.
If Pacman do to clottey what he did to Hatton then floyd will be running scared.He will make all these excuses not to fight him.
all you so call boxing expert can you explain to me how mayweather end up with 40 wins 25 by knockout and 0 defeats . if you are running like you pacqroid fans says how on earth did he end up with 25 knockouts .
Can you knockout a fighter running away .In all mayweather figths if you don’t know he has the hightest output to connect ratio against all the fighters that he faced .
HOW COULD YOU CALL THAT RUNNING .
Fighter, which i doubt you are chill out and go smoke your crack pipe and go watch Floyd videos so that you sleep well Crack boy
Graham try eating more fish or take omega 3 or Focus factor maybe your peanut brain will grow.
@ the fight doctor…
as oppose to being an actual retard such as yourself. there is no precedence that says that Manny should test. His reluctance to test out dates the steroid allegations. Floyd should have stopped being a punk and fought a guy that he said he could beat anyway.
if pac roid would have just taken the damm blood test we would have a fight right now. you pac nuts say that manny fights for pride and not money ,was it money or pride when ss mosley tried his best to fight pac roid and guess what? he ducked ss mosley to fight coto a shot flat foot fighter for more money and he straight up ducked pbf, so you pac nuts just need to face it pac roid will never fight a african american fighter, some of pac nutriders would say he is fighting clottey and hes black, no we are talking about an african american fighter stop pretending to be a retard.
@Fighter
I’m with you bro. I think Manny and Floyd don’t take criticism or controversy too well. You can spend all day on Youtube watching Mayweather and Manny (usually through Roach) contradicting themselves and waffling.
They’re much better at fighting.
For all we know, Arum may have just wanted a Jerry Jones invested match in March and did what it took to get Manny down there against another Top Rank guy. Which would suck but actually bode well for an eventual showdown between Floyd and Manny this Fall.
…ryan
Since when is demanding a fair fight “cowardice”? (e.g. Mayweather requesting random blood testing) Should Margarito been able to deny the examination of his [loaded] gloves prior to his fight with Mosley?
@lex
I just found your source for the Freddie saying Mayweather would do the Olympic style drug testing, and I stand corrected.
Good on you. I think it only adds to the complication of everything. My stance is that, as sh\tty as some of the defamation was from Floyd’s side with the inferring of Manny being dirty, I STILL thought Manny should have agreed to the tests.
That way, if he tests clean, and can still win, then it’s an unquestionable victory for Manny. Anything short of him doing the blood testing would have (and still will) put an asterisks next to his win if he could pull it off.
We’ll see where things net out, but at the end of the day I think we BOTH want to see the fight happen, for various reasons.
…ryan
P.S. In case I’ve confused anyone… BOTH of these fighters have egg on their face, as do their promoters and their camps. They could NOT reach a compromise on the drug testing protocol, and they BOTH walked away from the fight.
People are making it sound like Manny walked out of the room during mediation and left Floyd scratching his head. The bottom line is that they could not reach a CONSENSUS, and they tabled the fight and went their separate ways.
However (and I’m looking for the specific quote), a source close to the negotiations CLAIMED that all parties were in accordance, except for Floyd, who was not happy with the terms.
I never gave you my interpretation of his motives for doing that, though there is plenty speculation on BOTH sides.
…ryan
@grahma
“Pacquiao refused the tests, that’s why we don’t have a fight”
All roads don’t always lead to Mayweather’s…not with his ridiculous and stupid terms. To come up with such demand is COWARDICE!
I can’t stand how the Mayweathers are playing the “$25mil blood test” thing.
Either Manny Pacquiao is easy work, or he’s a steroid freak to which it would be unfair and unsafe to fight. Both were stances taken by Floyd, and only one of them cost him $40,000,000. Do you honestly see Floyd spending that kind of money to clean up the sport once he leaves it? Hell no he wouldn’t. I’m not saying the man is scared, but he’s just as guilty for letting $40 mil get away.
Besides, I thought skills pay the bills. Don’t they always talk about how speed and power don’t mean anything when faced against a superior skilled fighter? Are they suddenly not so confident in that rule? Somehow that doesn’t apply to Manny Pacquiao?
If you say “no” to the last two questions then you just admitted that Pacquiao is so good that the only way you can comprehend his ability is that he must be on steroids or is an android.
@lex
I like how you bash my fact-checking, but haven’t produced any yourself. Same goes for your graham. But as I am nothing but a waste of space to you both, I assume you won’t read this. But just in case you do…
Lex, you said:
“Roach made a proposal and Mayweather accepted it the next day, but gusee who didn’t? MANNY PACQUIAO.”
Could you please enlighten me as to the specifics here. Try to use facts, in the form of quotes ideally, so that you can continue accusing me of lies.
For example, seeing as the details of the mediations were confidential, where do you get your intelligence from. The only people who spouted off were Arum and Schaefer a little bit. Think I’m making that up? Here’s part of the statement from Golden Boy Promotions AFTER the deal fell through…
“Any comments to the press or public by participants in the mediation purporting to report the substance or details of the mediation are violations of the strict confidentiality to which the parties and their representatives agreed and which they authorised the mediator to enforce.”
Please prove me wrong, I have no undying loyalty to these guys, but I think that 1) Team Mayweather was the one who inevitably broke off the mediation, and 2) Pacquiao was vehemently outraged by the defamation, which did not help things along either.
…ryan
Go to bed Tom!
Fighter,
The problem is you were trying to be clever and you’ve ended up in a mess. Let me untangle it for you.
I asked you about De la Hoya to give you an example of a clean fighter who can go the distance with Mayweather and nearly win the fight. It doesn’t matter what you think the results should have been, the judges scored it and that’s what stands.
So obviously the answer is YES if he’s taking PEDs he has a better chance of winning, because he will still have the stamina to do things in the late rounds that he wouldn’t do normally.
Don’t try to be clever next time, just come out and say what you want to say.
HGH, The Cream, The Liquid, EPO, and Testosterone Boosters, put all of these in a pot, stir real good and mix together, and you have created= Manny Pacquaio. hahahahaha!!!!!!
I thought of something. Is it possible that both parties were in it together to break up negotiations. This would generate even more interest and therefore more money. It can be likened somewhat to a WWE event because it was all for show.Any thoughts?
dont count out mosley he has great hand speed and power although his foot movement aint the best and it may come down to that
mrdhavidee,
The ball is in Pacquiao’s court, Mayweather has already said his not moving from his demands for olympic-style random blood tests. Actually he wants unlimited tests now, no cut-off dates. So the Clottey result will not mean anything unless Pacquiao is willing to take the olympic-style random blood tests.
I love the way the floyd fanatics think. They think like republicans. Very narrow minded, biased and simply ignorant.Read all the facts then comment!
Graham. I I would say I know enough. I dabble a bit, and am 32yrs old, and have been watching since Duran, Hagler, Herns, (got to meet him in P. Diddy’s club, nice guy) Duran Sugar Ray. You asked what I thought of the DLH/Mayweather descision. I know what it was scored at, and what I saw. I saw Mayweather dominate the majority of the fight. I also saw Malianaggi give a hard learned boxing lesson to Juan Diaz the 1st time around, and the judges managed to give it to the baby BULL, so what’s your point? I asked you a simple question, that requires a simple answer, yes or no. If you can’t do that and would rather question how much of a real boxing fan I am, than you’re not worth my time. I ASKED WHAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT MANNY FIGHTING MAYWEATHER EVEN IF HE DID TAKE PED’S, IF YOU THOUGHT HE COULD BEAT FLOYD!!! Simple question. I asked, because, I like MANY others, don’t think it matters what Manny is on. The more important thing here is that I’m getting to a point that you are too thick to see. Floyd claimed that Manny would be an easy fight, THEN refused to fight him unless he teste the way he negotiated for. If Floyd is all he says he is, it should’nt matter.
I think they’re both at fault for the destruction of this thing. I am not a groupie of either of these guys. I’m a REAL boxing fan, who calls it the way I see it…not the way anybody tells me to.
If pacquiao wins by a KO , do you really think that floyd will fight manny then? I don’t think so . You will see the MAYWEATHER jr and sr come up with very interesting excuses. you’ll see.
Ryan Dunn,
You are a waste of space. Four paragraphs of gibberish, what a waste.
“bad blood”? This is business with a lot ot money involved, we are not asking them to kiss each other.
Like I told your friend Bob, don’t confuse yourself. Everybody knows why that fight did not take place, it’s because Pacquiao did not want to take the olympic-style random blood tests.
Now if the truth is too hard for you to take, go ahead and complicate things.
manny did not ran away from drug test. He agreed to have urine test every day up to the day of the fight then a blood test after the fight. How’s that running away? Floyds fans are just simply biased in their thinking or they think like floyd.
Ryan Dunn;
Arum and Roach each made an offer that PAcquiao refused!!! Everyone on both sides agreed except one person- Manny Pacquiao!! Thats right Arum tried to get Manny to ease his stance on PEDs testing and Manny refused. Roach made a proposal and Mayweather accepted it the next day, but gusee who didn’t? MANNY PACQUIAO. I know you really can not comprehend anything that is true and doesn’t support Manny being superman, but you just continue to ignore the facts. I mean you wrote an entire article on PED testing for boxing without ever mentioning the PEDs boxers would benefit most from and can only be detected through blood tests!!! But if you would have mentioned anything about blood doping, it would have shown your insistence on urine tests being more efficient was complete fiction. Please, I realize this is a forum and you can spread your lies, but its honestly getting old and you are sounding really pathetic.
Ryan;
In the initial proposal Mayweather requested a larger ring, gloves, and random drug testing!!! Both Manny and Mayweather said they would demand over 50% of the purse, but neither ever brought that up in negotations. I realize the facts don’t back you up so you lie, i get that, but its really getting old. Yea, Mayweather must have known that Manny can give 10 times the amount of blood Mayweather reqested and not miss any training and be fine, but Floyd knew if he asked for the blood to be tested for PEDs Manny would grow a “superstition”. The fact is Manny DEMANDED the ring, gloves, special foreign marketer, and an absurd $10 million per pound penalty. Did Barrera or Morales or Marquez ever ask for that when they fought Manny? No, even though Manny had a pattern of coming in overweight for his toughest fights. Blood tests was in the beginning, but once Floyd agreed to EVERYTHING else Manny DEMANDED, then, AND ONLY THEN, did the testing become a problem. The truth is Mayweather agreed everything Manny wanted except he wanted to enusre Manny wasn’t on PEDs and after Floyd agreed to everything the lies started flying from Manny, his team, and Pactards like you. He’s scared of needles. He was told he has tattoes. He had a superstition about giving blood inside 30 days of a fight. He was told he was on video doing exactly that 9 months earlier. He wants to fight by the rules of everyother fight. He was told the $10 million penalty was never even heard of before. Then he signed Clottey within a couple days. Manny would miss at least 3 days of training after giving blood. He didn’t miiss ANY TRAINING after giving 10 times the amount of blood. At first it was the USADA is somehow in GBP’s pocket, even though there has never been any connection between the two. So, Floyd said alright, you pick who does the testing. Roach said random blood tests with a cutoff day of 5 days. Mayweather said okay. But Manny refused to go with the offer his promoter made and then refused to accept the offer of his trainer. Manny refused to bend on any of his demands. Floyd let Manny have 5 of his demands and only wanted effective drug tests. You can spin it any way you want, but the fact remains Manny didn’t budge on anything and refused to give one tenth of the amount of blood less than 24 days then gave blood 20 days before fighting Clottey. He said Mayweather knew he would miss at least 3 days of training camp if he had blood drawn, but apparently thats only if they test for PEDs because he didn’t miss any training after giving blood for the Clottey fight.
Mayweather doesn’t care if Manny wins or not, Floyd is earning in excess of $40 million for his fight with Mosley. Manny will probably get around $15-$18 million for Clottey andd have to pay half of that out to GBP, Top Rank, Roach, Ariza, and others. Mayweather will make $40 million AFTER paying everyone. Floyd is the biggest draw in boxing by far, compare the numbers and its not even close. Mayweather and Mosley both know Manny won’t fight the winner. Mosley was too good and Manny developed a superstition negotiating with Floyd and that superstitioun disappeared as soon as Manny signed to fight a second tier opponent. And giving blood is not some superstition in the Phillipines, in fact it is extremely popular for many Phillipino’s to sell their own blood in order to buy Shuba. Shuba is one of the strongest forms of meth. Its also been used by numerous militaries during war, helping them keep going despite serious injuries. They don’t get tired and it helps stay focused. And its use is extremely widespread in the Phillipines. Including many selling their blood to get it. This might explain the superstition that developed when Mayweather was trying to fight him and disappeared as soon as Manny knew he wouldn’t have to take any tests for PEDs.
I don’t know if there’s any getting through to this @graham. He seems to think that life is black and white. That it was as simple as Floyd making a request, Manny refusing, and fight is off. It’s much more than that. There is bad blood between Floyd and Arum, between GBP and Top Rank. They can make life difficult for one another, usually at the cost of the fighters and the fans.
If you read my post again, everything I told you was accurate. Negotiating is the process of asking for something and either you 1. get what you asked for, 2. you don’t, or 3. both sides compromise. I gave you 75% of the negotiating points from Team Mayweather. Do you need me to school you to the point where I give you citations and quotes about each of them, or you want to do that on your own?
Manny wanted to compromise and accommodate Floyd’s request for testing. They came to a term agreed to by every single person involved in making this fight, on both sides of the ring, except for one person. That is a fact.
Want me to send you over to Google News? I can give you the hotlink if you can’t type it yourself, but they might delete it here.
…ryan
Bob,
Don’t confuse yourself.
Mosely agreed to the tests that’s why we have a fight.
Pacquiao refused the tests, and that’s why we don’t have a fight.
Easy!
For the bumbling idiots that think Manny ran away. It’s like this since peanut brains don’t understand. Manny had his demands to fight with Neveda State rules and Floyd refused. Floyd tried to make his own rules and Manny told him who are you? go fly a kite . So how did many refuse, I think Floyd is more at fault by thinking he was running the whole show and telling Arum, Roach and Manny what to do.
Fighter,
Are you a real boxing fan or are you just trying to be silly? Mayweather vs De la Hoya was a split decision, 2 to 1. The point I am trying to make here is that a lot of things happen in boxing and anybody (even Pacquiao) with the stamina to go 12 rounds with Mayweather has a chance of winning.
Mayweather is not superman he gets tired too, just like any honest boxer. It is not right that other boxers should be getting away with taking PEDs to give them an unfair advantage over him.
Well, I will be honest, I was unaware of the other negotiations on the Mayweather side until Ryan brought it up. But Graham, it looks like you’re wrong, because I read it for sure in the early goings, that Mayweather DEFINATELy, asked for a 60/40 split, so you’re wrong, Floyd did ask for more than the blood test. And lashing out like a child, telling people to shut up is bad for buisiness. Grow up.
Wonder why Mayweather asked for bigger gloves? From his standpoint, it will lessen the impact of Manny’s blows, and slow him down a bit. Why else would he ask for this? If this is true, I’m starting to see through Floyd’s nonsense, and am leaning more and more towards beleiving he is just plain scared. Just like he was when Shane came into the ring. He we pet. He swollowed hard and everything..LMAO!!!
Shut up Ryan Dunn, you are making a fool of yourself. There was only one request from Mayweather in that contract.
@ Graham. No. Will you answer me now? Do you think it matters WHAT Manny takes, dou you think it will give him the edge to beat Mayweather?
@graham
“Mayweather asked for one thing, and one thing only, that both him and Pacquiao take an olympic-style random blood.”
- To correct you, Mayweather asked for a LOT of things, and Manny didn’t give him ANY of them. It was a sham negotiation, doomed to fail. But Floyd asked for a 60/40 split, a bigger ring, bigger gloves, the vegas venue, his name first in the promotions, and the drug testing, and there were likely ten other things he asked for.
- I think Floyd was lashing out that he wasn’t getting his way, and turned the blood testing request into a smear campaign. All hope was lost at that point IMO.
…ryan
Fighter,
I’ll answer your question with another question. Do you think Mayweather vs De la Hoya was a close decision?
@ zuBzEro. No question. You’re right about that.
Graham. I agree with you, that Manny ran away for SOME reason. Just answer me a question: Do you think if Manny took steriods, or HGH, it would give him enoughof an edge to beat Floyd?
During the press conferance, Floyd admitted how great he though Manny has becaome. If Manny gave a hair sample, and came up clean, Floyd would look like more of a coward than he already is. He started all this garbage for the same reason he turned down a fight with Margarito…he’s scared of losing. He knew he could’nt hurt Margarito, and that he could very well get caught by Manny, so he squirmed out of both fights. I’ve seen bot men fight countless times. Sometimes watching the same fight over and over. Looking at the skills, I always thought that Manny was a flawed fighter, andMayweather, the superior. I thought no matter what Manny took, he could’nt beat Floyd. But when you watch this press conferance, you can see that Floyd respects Manny so much, that he fears his recent elevation of his game. Why would Floyd call Manny an easy fight….then insist on bloodwork, or no fight. Mark my words; Floyd Mayweather Jr, AND Sr., are affraid of Manny Pacquiao. The only reason he’s fighting Mosley, is because he was pretty much forced to. Otherwise, it would be obvious that he was looking for another easy fight. Why would he call Shane a cheat, and ‘very old’ in one breath, and in the next, he says he’s one of the best in the world. He’s a backpeddler.
I like Floyd and like his boxing style but I also like Pacman
Both have their own fighting style…were just hoping both will collide !
Just because I like Floyd doesnt mean I like everything about him, one doesnt need to. While hes very good with his fighting style I do think hes very conceited and likes to talk trash but thats where his power is at…drawing in a lot of haters so they will watch him get defeated ! He does have 40 wins, 0 losses !
Pacman on the other hand is a real fighter and would prefer to
KO you than let go through the whole 12 th rounds if he doesnt have to…he’s humble and soft spoken but the power is in his fist, delivers a guaranteed knock down and can knock out his foe just like that ! Hes exciting to watch, not a minute wasted!
So in the end both are worth watching…whether you like them or not !!
Mayweather is hoping Manny gets knocked out by Clottey. Just as he was hoping for Cotto, Margarito, Williams,Kostya,Forrest, and Freitas to lose. Floyd knows a loss will take some of the luster off Manny’s name and the demand for him to face him will not be as high. It has happened in the past and it is no different now. After fights Floyd has called out most of the fighters that I have named but has never faced them. Floyd would rather lose 40 mil than see his undefeated record go and he is holding onto it as if his life depends on it. If the earthquake had not hit Haiti, Shane would have been another fighter added to the long list of fights that floyd has avoided.
The only people that are scared of drug testing are drug users.
I think your right in the point alot of people are holding out hope that this is like a semi final stage and hopefully both Pacman and Mayweather will win and end up in the ring together.
But i think Mosley v Mayweather is a massive fight on its own, about 4 or 5 years late but its here and if Pacman loses i dont think its guna have too much baring on viewing figures for the 2nd fight.
Actually i want to see Mayweather v Pacman like everybody else, and i STILL want Mosley to smash Floyds face in anyway.
@dayamm
I might disagree with you, but the way you phrase your arguments are very clear and compelling. In fact, I think you have opened my eyes to a couple of things, but I still, on paper, disagree. Here’s why…
In the mediations, which went on for many hours over two days, the net result was a “YES” from all parties involved. Team Pacquiao, Top Rank Promotions, Golden Boy Promotions, and even Mayweather Promotions. Now, if you feel he was standing his ground, stading on principles and morales, then fine. But from the way he has been parading around the “$25M drug test,” to the media, you could make the argument that the smart money was to take the counsel of your promoters and sign the fight.
We don’t know the details of the negotiations, besides the cut-off dates Arum and co. spit out after the meeting, which can’t even be trusted for sure. Weinstein put a gag order on the details of their negotiations, so we may never know (until a Floyd or Manny biography comes out in five years, of course).
Bottom line, if all parties are to be believed, everyone was ready to sign but Floyd. So whether you still side with him or not, please don’t make the statement that Manny walked away. He could have walked away and said no to the negotiations after the defamation suit, but he didn’t.
Whether your pro-Manny, pro-Floyd, anti-Manny or anti-Floyd (or any mix thereof) doesn’t matter. The Spring fight never happened.
But one other noteworthy point to make, an obvious but important one. If Manny and Floyd win each of their Spring bouts, the buzz will redouble and their stock will go up. I think both promoters knew that this fight was still a very real possibility, but destined to fail on such short notice.
Fall and Winter in the USA is must-see TV anyhow, so they stand to do even BETTER if they can grow up, come back to the table, and renegotiate with cooler heads.
And to your point about Top Rank having a last-minute replacement. I don’t know if you think that was some insider secret, but Arum was VERY vocal that, if Floyd refused to fight Manny for any reason, that Arum could have another fighter lined up in ten minutes.
He said this repeatedly, and in fact his entire overture has been “If Floyd doesn’t want to fight, we don’t need him, we’ll find someone else.” Arum actually took that a little too far, and it could be argued this negotiation came down more to the power-struggle between Arum and Floyd, two arch-nemeses who don’t particularly like working together, let alone coming to even terms in the contract of Floyd’s life. Arum thought he could bully the “kid” Floyd, and it backfired. Floyd thought he could raise suspicion and turn the spotlight on Manny with implications he was on drugs… and THAT backfired.
Whether Mosley freeing up was a better opportunity for Floyd, or yet another backfire, we will find out in May. Should be an exciting fight. Definitely more chance for Floyd to lose than for Manny though. At least, it’s a riskier prospect. It would also be less of an upset if Shane won than if Clottey did, however. At least in the eyes of the experts I would bet.
…ryan
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I think Mayweather needs to pray for his own victory. He’s parading around like If Mosley is a walk in the park. I think if I was a betting man, Mayweather is at greater risk of losing than Pacquiao
Just for a moment, assume that Pacquiao will agree with the random test. Will Floyd agree to what Pacquiao hinted a WINNER TAKE ALL contest? Pacquiao seems to be willing to lose any potential earning but will Mayweather willingly lose any $ if he loses? The Mayweathers thinks Pac is stupid to let go $40M by avoiding the blood test. Pacquiao’s gamble to a WINNER TAKE ALL goes to show it’s not all about money, he can lose and doesnt mind going home empty handed.
Mr writer Richard Schaefer says Pacquaio Vs Mayweather is off and suggested move on.
@graham
the issue on blood testing should be the job of the boxing commission, the mayweathers should address it to them. its amazing to hear from a 40-0 fighter demanding so many excuses on fighting a ‘smaller’, ‘one-dimensional’ and a ‘walk-in-the-park fight’ foe.
i must agree. mayweather’s words these days are full of pac
. even in his mosley-mayweather conference he can’t get his mind off manny. whye not? he needed big time money. IRS is lurking 
An unusually succinct, insightful, correctly spelt and punctuated article; a rarity on this site. Well done, Gary.
kelso,
If there is a test for it and my reputation was at stake, yes I would take the test. If somebody offered me $40 million they can prik me with needles for a whole year I wouldn’t care.
Lito Nucum,
“heads together and really work and cooperate”? What are you talking about. This is a simple blood test! You guys are losing you minds. You are talking as if this is some sort of UN negotiation. It’s either he takes it or he doesn’t, simples.
Mosely agreed to it, and is anybody talking about those blood tests now? No, we just want to see the fight.
Pacquiao tripped over himself and all the alarm bells you can ever imagine when he was asked to take an olympic-style random blood test. That’s why he is a suspected PEDs user, and I don’t blame Mayweather for sticking to his original demand of unlimited olympic-style random blood tests.
Oh my God! You people still don’t get it! Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao! Why do you think he invented that random test issue? To get more money, more media exposure? Hell No! He concocted that scheme to get out of the fight without being branded a coward (which he is, avoiding all the best fighters in his division for the last 5 yrs).
You ask, “if he is a coward, why did he sign to fight Mosley” He was forced to signed because he got trapped in a corner when Berto cancelled out. There was no way out for him, no excuses he could make. If he did not fight Mosley, that would be the end of him and he knew it. That would confirm what everybody have been saying all along..that he will never fight those that can beat him.
There will be no Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. Mayweather will wait and wait until Pacquiao reitres. Then he will say Paxquiao is a coward and did not want to fight him that is why he(Pacquiao) retired…smart coward as he always has been.
Mayweather is gonna lose to Mosley. Nuff said.
The next huge fight will be Pacquiao vs. Mosley
If they don’t fight??.. They still on tha list of tha greatest of all time.. But there’s asteris on it,, n after a dcade or two.. We all gonna say.. Them! This 2 cat is on tha list n they both on thier prime on the same dcade or year.. But they ddnt fight.. That’s ridiculous.,, that’s why 80′s n early 90′s is tha best of tha boxing.. U c all great ones going at each other.,, I even heard tha hearns sell his car n house 4 bet in his fight againt s rY Leonard.. Cus fanss/ people r calling them 2 fight n they make it happend..
Gary,
Damn, good point I never thought of that. Pacquiao beating Clottey for an eventual matchup for the winner of Mosley/Mayweather would inherently effect the numbers of that fight. All in the hopes of course that Pacquiao fights the winner, not likely if it’s Mayweather. Smart thinking, you have my props.
Let us wait and see. The outcomes of the two scheduled fights for both Floyd and Manny will dectate what will follow. The camp at fault will be exposed because the pressure for the two to meet will be great. Neither of the two has an alternative to make the kind of money they will risk not making if they choose not to fight. I see someone buldging depending on how these two fights will go. They are surely destined to meet and if they don’t, it will be very clear who should carry the blame. For now, let us enjoy what has been put before us by fate. The true champ will be known…I have no doubts.
In as much as I would really love to see the Pacman-Floyd fight, if Floyd will still insist on the Olympic Style testing, its still won’t happen. But if the promoters will put their heads together and really work and cooperate with its other and not involve Floyd Sr. it will just be a matter of 14days or 10 days cut-off time for the test, then eventually it might actually happen. Again, if Floyd still won’t budge on his demand, then Pacman will retire and he will be forever known to be the coward and the Loser.
mayweather like him or not is right about random blood and drug tests in boxing because it’s different to other sports your health and life is on the line mayweather accepted pacquiaos demands the gloves ring size purse split weight but pacquiao can’t accept a test which mayweather is going to take as well for a $40million dollar fight only people who do that are people who got something to hide
I don’t know g… But most of people , specially mee… What’s 2 c them going at each other.. Floyd have tha best dfence I’ve seen n one of tha smartest boxer of all time.. Cant barely touch him.,, againts tha guy that don’t stop attacking his opponent, has speed n power.. Just wondering of what’s going 2 happend… Just wanna know of who’s tha real p4p king of boxing.. N tha outcome can dictate of where they place on tha boxing best of all time… N so can shout up tha PAC hAters n Floyd haters,,
If there is such a test that involves noninvasive testing for PED whatever it is they want to test (A-side Myth) for Manny I bet still Floyd doesn’t want to fight him.
What? You mean Pacquiao will finally accept an olympic-style random blood test?
tha last straw in tha sport of boxing… PAC/Floyd has 2 happend…(period)….,,