Mayweather: Pacquiao was “exposed” and looked “one-dimensional” against Clottey
March 15th, 2010
By Esteban Garduno: Unbeaten Floyd Mayweather Jr. saw last Saturday night’s match between Joshua Clottey and Manny Pacquiao and he was not impressed in the least, saying in an article at Cagereport.net, “Personally, I think Pacquiao got exposed in that fight for being one-dimensional. You can have all [the] offence ability in the world but with no defense you’re not going to last long against a good counter puncher such as myself. Look at the way Clottey was getting through, each time he threw something it landed. Then at the end Pacquiao’s was all busted up, when’s the last time you’ve seen my face all messed up like that? That’s the difference between an amateur and a true pound for pound boxer.”
And Pacquiao’s face was all messed up at the end. If you were to look at Pacquiao and Clottey’s faces, I’d be willing to bet that most people would assume that Pacquiao was the loser if they hadn’t seen the fight. Pacquiao’s face was red and swollen afterwards, and he looked totally exhausted. He looked tired even early in the fight. Maybe it’s the weight that Pacquiao has been packing on his small frame. He looked sluggish, slow and was gasping for breath even after the 3rd round.
Mayweather continues, “I think Pacquiao gave the fans a boring fight, he was punching his arms for all 12 rounds. At least when you watch Floyd Mayweather you know you’ll be seeing non-stop action for 30 minutes straight and that’s what you’ll see on May 1st.“
Mayweather is very accurate with his punches and would be finding a way through Clottey’s guard had that been him in the ring with Clottey instead of Pacquiao. What Pacquiao seemed to make a mistake with was just throwing punches without really placing them? He seemed like his total focus was just to throw a lot of punches, but not trying to get them in the correct places all the time.
Mayweather would be more like a surgeon compared to Pacquiao, who obviously used the shotgun approach to the fight by throwing massive amounts of punches hoping some of them would get through Clottey’s guard. All total, Pacquiao threw over 1200 punches during the fight. That’s an incredible number but when you’re missing a lot of those shots, what good is it?
Mayweather then chimes in about the attendance numbers for the Pacquiao fight, saying “The attendance numbers ain’t nothing compared to what I have drawn in the past or what I would have drawn if that was me in the ring that night, everybody knows that. Half those seats were empty in the back and people say Pacquiao is a draw? Let’s not forget who generated a revenue of 2.5 million dollars in one fight alone. The only reason why he’s popular is because he’s an ethnic minority and from the Philippines so it’s something special. If he was from Africa he would be just another boxer.”
Pacquiao has a huge following among Filipino fans in the United States and can count on many of them to come see his fights or purchase them on PPV. With the huge amount of Filipino fans living in the U.S. and interesting in watching all of Pacquiao’s fights, he has a huge fan base built in for every fight that takes place in the United States. Mayweather obviously can’t count on that same kind of support among African Americans. Many of them know who he is, but he doesn’t have the same kind of following that Pacquiao has.
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mayweather couldnt sell out his fight with marquez even after pushing the date back
if clottey lands 200/200 and pacquiao lands 300/3000… and lasts 12rds…i’ll take that anyday of the week
dont buy the mayweather fight, just stream it
For those of you morons, including Pretty Bh Floyd, who say that Pacquiao is one dementional and lacks the ability to avoid getting hit.. Go back and re-watch him handle Miguel Cotto for 11 rounds. Unless of course you’re saying Miguel is a chump. Oh wait, Floyd didn’t wanna fight him either, did he?
@Thaibox:- I do have poster of Mayweather but its not above my bed because that’s where I keep a poster of your mother, All I am saying is this Mayweather beats manny.
Mayweather should just stick to fighting in WWF. Fake skills.
Pacquioa’s punch volume will force mayweather to open up and when he does, its lights out
All jokes aside, Pacquiao will beat Mayweather. Floyd will play to not get knocked out, while Pacquiao will be looking to go to war. No way an overly defensive fighter can beat a warrior who brings it the way Pacquiao does.
All jokes aside I think pacquiao will defeat mayweather.
All jokes aside I think Mayweather would defeat Pacquiao.
@donkey: What are you talking about “run all night long” the sign of a great fighter is to hit & not get hit, “help Mayweather find his balls”, I don’t know about finding Mayweather’s balls but I know manny’s are in your mouth, This is not about Mayweather being scared of Manny but this about Manny being scared of a needle (or what the tests might prove). All im saying is this Mayweather will school Manny & I can’t wait for that to happen.
@Dom
I can’t understand a word you are saying. You might think about removing Floyd’s nuts from your mouth before you start talking again.
You misconstrue what Roach said. ALL fighters need to train specifically for their next opponent. Pacquiao showed that in every single fight he has thus far. He sticks to their plan and make adjustments as needed.
Pacquiao adjusts on the fly as well – in the way he knows how. Everyone agrees he is an aggressive boxer and he adjusts his aggressiveness as it is needed. Mayweather, on the other hand, adjusts the way he counters. Pacquiao adjusts his tactics as a brawler. Mayweather adjusts his tactics as a counter puncher.
He didn’t need to make any huge adjustment in the recent fight because Clottey wasn’t even trying to fight. He kept to his defensive shell.
MOSLEY WILL BEAT MAYWEATHER
Exactly!
Pacquiao’s work rate and punch output is amazing. Floyds defence is completley different from that of J Clottey. Floyd has good defence but when 100s of punches come his way, how many is he really gonna stop. Moreover Pacquiao punches in unorthodox angles therefore mayweather will not know what hit him. His defence may be good but he can still be hit if you have the speed. Hatton,ODLH and Judah both exposed this.
Yall manny fans blaming mannys’ connect percentage being low cause clottey kept his guard up all night are full of donkey sht.Manny wouldn’t throw wild punches and stop throwing punches just to throw alot.THE mutha sucka was standing still!!!!A smart boxer like Mayweather would have figured it out by the 3rd round.Mayweather would have straight jabbed that fool right between his elbows bringing clotteys arms down.Then would of start mixing it up for clottey.Boxing ain’t about getting in the ring throwing punches and getting hit.Thats the difference bewtween mayweather and manny.Mayweather’s the problem solver.Most of yall manny fans just started watching boxing 3 years ago and quick jump on mannies nuts like a drunk blonde in a bar.Don’t think cause yall know who Tyson and Ali is yall know boxing .It’S more to it then that.WHY do you think brawlers got all these losses like berrera,morales,pacquiao,ayala,johnny tapia,gatti,margarito,diaz.
Awesome ESPN ‘Good Five Minutes With Floyd Mayweather’ interview.
ESPN: “Come on, Floyd just say just say PACQUIAO just say the word PACQUIAO”….
Floyd: “Mosley”
ESPN: ( Laughing Out loud ) “He’s good, he’s good at ducking and dodging”…….
WHAT A TOTAL DISRESPECT
@Skar
Did you even watch the fight? Did you happen to notice that Clottey had his guard up for 99% of the fight? It’s kind of hard to hit someone if they are too scared to open up and engage.
I just watched last night Mayweather fighting Baldomir in round 12. He is not “one-dimensional” like Pacquiao but “multi-directional” in running to left, right and backward to the extent that people are booing the fight.
Usually when a fighter loses his “P4P” title it’s due to a loss or they decline somewhat. Mayweather has lost his title to Pacquiao while he is still undefeated and for the most part in his prime (in my opinion). I really believe Mayweather took time off hoping Pacquiao would have lost by the time he wanted to come back. That was not a retirement at all…he knew it and we all did too. He had every intention of fighting again. Just didn;t wanna face Pacquiao at that time.
Mayweather’s record will forever be tarnished. The boxing experts did not vote for him to become Boxer of the Decade. Ring magazine chose Pacquiao for the titile. American organizations showered Pacquiao with all the accolades and recognition. Mayweather will always have a question mark. It will always haunt him. He’s desperate now. He’s bitter. He speaks with malice, rehearsed his arguments. It’s a losing battle for validation.
I wish more fighters were one-dimensional like Pacquiao.
“Skills pay the bills”, having a big mouth doesn’t. Drop all the BS drug testing, sign and fight.
If Pacquiao is so good, why did he throw 1200 something punches and only landed 200 something? Thats 19% of his punches. He only landed 3% of his jabs Pacquiao is good! Better yet, he’s trash. If you throw 1200 something punches and only land 200 something against Mayweather, don’t you think Mayweather would counter most of them? If Marquez. who won both fights and got robbed, gave Pacman problems because he is a counter puncher, what do you think will happen with Mayweather? To add insult to injury, the only reason why Pacman is even P4P king right now is cuz Mayweather retired. That is the only reason. Mayweather accepted on Pacman’s demand that he would have to pay 10 million dollars for every pound he went over. He accepted so why couldn’t Pacman accept a blood test? I think 10 million dollars is going outside the boundary more than blood testing don’t you think? I’d rather get stuck by a needle than give 10 million dollars out, we’re in a recession.
All the roads lead to Floyd Jnr, why some people keep pushing Floyd just “Fight” be fair, if there is a suspect then the alleged avoiding the accusations then by common sense we start wondering.
Given all those thoughts about how good Mayweather is compared to Pacman, why dont Mayweather just fight Pacquiao and rid of all those unreasonable demands? He should be able to beat Pacquiao easily then, given all those thoughts of Floyd. What’s his problem?
@Anonymous
I think you should be the one checking your facts. Pacquiao fought Barrera twice, and that’s it. If you’re so sure of yourself, why don’t you tell me when and where those three fights were.
There’s this thing called google where you can look these things up. You should try using it before running your mouth.
I’ll make it easy for you… go to boxrec.com then come back and tell me when that third fight happened.
Mayweather’s idiot fans, die with your idio-crazy and jealousy. And while you and your Mayweather god are crying, dying of jealousy, Manny is enjoying his victory and prize money. Tell your Mayweather god that he can not earn by his loudmouth nor he can be called P4P king again unless he will come out boldly and beat the real P4P king Manny Pacquiao..if he can beat him.
Wake up and stop dreaming you idiots. The world has chnged and the new P4P king has risen and is reigning, the world knows it, and that is not Mayweather.
Lets stop with this Manny needs time to heal from having his blood drawn crap… did he need time to recover from his tattoos? I dont think so! How about if he gets cut in the middle of a fight? That whole Manny needs time to heal mess is crap. Stop fooilng yourselves, Manny will not fight Floyd or Shane or Berto. Bob Arum is not going put him in harms way. His next and final fight will be against Margarito. The fight is already in the making. He will end his career the way with his typical IMO. Slow, straight forward, easy to hit fighters.
I agree. Pac was badly bruised even with Clottey’s limited punches. Mayweather can ruin Pac’s face with his accurate counters. Mosley will put Pac into sleep after banging similar to what he did to Margacheato.
Pacquiao has limited defensive skills. Clottey, just a B-class fighter hit Pacquiao as he liked. Imagine what Mayweather, a fast and accurate puncher can do damages to Pac’s face.
The EVENT was a total boring fight. Don’t blame solely on Clottey. Pacquiao despite with wild machine type attack, it was still like a wild fire hitting only 20% out 1200 punches. That means more than 900 punches were wasted. Clottey had a better accuracy of 27%.
If Pacquiao was smart, he could lure Clottey into exchanges but setting a trap. But instead he was wild, hitting Clottey’s hands, arms and occasionally his strong lower body.
If Pacquiao slowed down a bit to allow Clottey to exhange a bit then he could land accurate punches but unfortunately he failed.
In the end, it was a boring fight. Pacquiao was partly to blame. The fight also exposes Pac’s weakness being a one-dimensional fighter who knows how to punch wild but don’t move his head allowing his opponent to batter him all the time.
@Davelahrisbrilliant
Get your facts straight…Manny had three fights with old man Barrera… check the record books buddy.
I agree with you Jasz. Pacquiao didn’t require to demonstrate his extra dimension to beat Clottey. It’s a common sense. The man was just standing infront doing nothing, Pacquiao don’t have to waste efforts than punching.
Mayweather is more scared seeing Pacquiao can handle heavy puches from true welterweights. His (Mayweather) picking potshots can not hurt Pacquiao, so it’s easy for Pacquiao to get in and twist Mayweather’s chin.
Floyd was the best, most technically-gifted, & the quickest boxer, 2nd only to PAC. LOL.
it’s good to be funny rather than to be afraid ha ha ha ha……ITS FUNNY hA HA HA
floyd scared and writing rubbish. a sound of a very scared fighter. mosley will do him in.
floyd stance.
manny fighting stance is left hand waist level,right hand away from right side of face. so open so he going to bob a dodge 1,200 punches?,he be knock down easily .too bad were not going to see this fight.but were going to see the mayweather team post what floyd would do ,dreaming, he wouldnt even put up a hard fight.
pac man fans r so funny they say he’s this and that and he could beat floyed like he beat some 1 that u think floyed couldnt beat i wanta c manny fight mosley or berto or floyed and now he have 2 fight 1 of them now we’ll c who’s just a lot of talk lol the guy is good but he’s not that good
Pacquiao wasn’t moving to much because Clottey was clamming up. He allowed himself to get hit by Clottey, he baited himself so that Clottey will punch him and open up. Pacquiao was literally standing in front of Clottey just to goad him to throw punches. The guy was so afraid to get knocked out that he didn’t threw that many punches. Yes, Pacquiao got hit because he allowed it.
Well, if Pacquiao is really a one dimensional fighter then Mayweather has nothing to be afaid of Pacquiao right. But, uh-oh… wait. Pacquiao was able to take a real punch from a full welterweight fighter at close range. I think that scares the heck out of Mayweather right now.
The fact is of too much talk….
Maywetaher is afraid of pacquiao period.
tweezy316…..maybe you don’t know anything about drug testing. pacquiao never refused the drug testing. he even agreed to the blood testing to go along with unlimited urine testing. the problem is floyd wants 14 days before the fight while manny wants 24 days. there’s not much really of a difference between thses 2 dates. the reason why pacquiao wants the 24 days is that he needs a little more time to adjust himself due to the blood drawn from him. manny agreed to floyd’s demand. but floyd refused to manny’s 24 day. why did he refused? i’m just wondering. can you answer my question?
Except for the absence of counterpunching by Clottey, the fight turned out pretty close to the prediction. Clottey’s inability to pull the trigger once again cost him dearly, except this time, when he did pull it, he paid a price. Manny also exploited Clottey’s weaknesses earlier than I anticipated — by the third round to be exact.
Clottey’s corner also proved less than compelling and instead of giving him some tactical advice, it simply repeated the obvious. Namely, that he was behind and had better start throwing some punches.
In sum, Clottey clearly lacked the Eye of the Tiger; Manny did not, and won this one with his blinding speed and and quick-handed, sharp-punching, punishing attacks.
We are fortunate to witness this marvelous fighting machine. Indeed, those of you who are young enough will be discussing him with your grandchildren in years to come.
who dat ….are you a boxing fan….your posting are all illogical in sense…you are just a pretender…..so dont blame..
because in my perspective….there are only a few of you who dont believe and give credit to PACQUIAo’s legacy..
as far as i know you are just pretendin to be boxing fan….who know’s a lot but understand a little……I;m talking of today…..Pacquiao skill has vastly improve compare to mayweather…
And if they ever meet pacquiao will defeat mayweather period….WHO DAT WHO?????
@ Who Dat
You Sir are a joke. Boxing is a fight spot. And the analogy to chess is absolutely ridiculous. That in itself is an insult to the past and future Hall of Famers.
You for one are not a boxing expert, so please don’t try to pass your self off as one.
xspot, You started off on the right track, but then I felt bad for you. I understand you want to be a boxing fan, but you have alot of history to catch up on and learn. To say ignorantly that Floyd is not a fraw and his style is whatever only shows that you do not understand boxing and grossly negates all the historical legends of the sport. I’m not going to rip into you because I understand you do not know what makes a boxer great and seperates them from other elite great fighters. Keep reading and learning little buddy, one day you will learn that what you just said was a sharp kick in the teeth to all the great Hall of Fame fighters, who defined boxing as as a chess match between two physical beings, and the one who thinks 5-7 moves (punches, counters etc.) ahead is often times the one who ‘Check Mate’ and wins the competition.
CRUZ ….an afraid person will hide the truth….Because the real ATTRACTION OF TODAY IS PACQUIAO!!!!
50900 can you do that?
can mayweather win over mosley?
THATS THE BIG QUESTION?
It’s easy for Floyd to find weakness and flaws on pacquiao but why is it so hard to fight him without a drug test? It doesnt make sense to say that i can beat you but i wont fight you. There is only one way for floyd to back up his words. Forget about the drug test and sign the contract.
floyd will do good if he’ll be a TALK SHOW host rather than a boxer. FIGHT DON’T TALK!
who dat…..what would you prefer to watch? good offense or good defense? when floyd went to upper weight limit, while his defense is superb, his offense became unexistence. i think pacquiao has a good chance to beat floyd.
There is no more room for Pac improvement, he is the fighter he is, cant teach someone overnight to block a straight right. Roach has been trying to teach that, but Pac is simply to offensive minded. Tyson was the same way, relied on offense but no defense. And when Tyson finally got in the ring with skilled fighters who had both offense and defense he got beat bad. This is not rocket science at all. Pac is good, but Floyd is the more complete fighter. Lets all get along.
who dat …..i think only a few of you knows that mayweather can beat pac…
Sorry but mayweather is not a attraction anymore…his style and skill is not a factor anymore….Mosley may even kick his butt on may 1. No defense will match the offensive style w/ a combination of speed of pacquioa.
Sad to say who dat theres only a few of you SORRY.
Thats what these promoters etc. do, they hype fighters ($$) to be more than what they are, so they generate revenue ($$). All these commentators etc. all know that Pac will not beat Floyd, but controversy and hype sells and make them money, so you can not be mad at them for doing all that they can to make Pac out to be the guy to challenge Floyd. Any real “true” boxing fan and student of the sport know Pac lack of defense will not stand up to Floyd offensive capability mixed in with his unmatched defensive ability. Pac hit and gets hit. Floyd hit and avoid being hit. Offense sells tickets, but defense wins games. There is no need to try to discredit either fighter, both good at what they do. But Floyd has the upper hand simply because he has the defense necessary to not get hit. Theres nothing to argue about people. Truth be told, if bum Clottey had of punched more he could have easily won this fight, because he has the defense which Pac could not break down, he just didnt have the offense which Floyd has. Thats the truth and anybody who says otherwise is simply trying to convence themselves and you. Keep it simple, lets just hope Pac take the blood test and we get the fight we want to see.
Pacquiao is one of the best fighters in the world and we are failing to recognise his achievements, including the fact that he has beaten opponents bigger and stronger than him something which Floyd has not done.
Also there is always room for improvement,if Pacquiao ever does fight Floyd, i can gurantee that Freddie Roach will make sure that his defence has improved.
This is the best boxing article Ive read in my entire life!.. this article sums up the “the whole Pac/May situation. Its simple people.. WAKE UP! the networks, the promoters, the people behind the closed doors profits off fighters like manny, someone who they can sell cause of their race, backround, age, status, whatever. im not saying i dont like pac, i just think hes over rated and that the networks and these 24/7 series mislead people into making them believe that these fighters are better than what they really are. A TRUE boxing fan knows that itll be a cold place in hell b4 pac beats mayweather in the ring…. im not bias. i see no color, race etc… that stuff means nothing to me. but no wY PAC can beat mayweather ever in a million years. Mayweather said EVERYTHING i said to myself and others on why pac will never win. if clottey was a busier fighter but with the same outstanding defense. pac wouldve went night night in 8 or so..
Mayweather stated that the interview is fabricated. LOL
Pac is a great offensive fighter, however he lacks defense, Clottey showed that. But that doesn’t make him a great fighter. Shane and Floyd are a notch above Pac because they have offense and defense. We all know Pac won’t beat Floyd, so there is no need to keep arguing the same stupid arguments at all. Pac is set in his ways, and you cant teach an old dog new tricks, that is what will be the downfall of Pac. Simply put, the man has to learn how to block, duck and get out of the way from straight rights, uppercuts and counter punches. There is nobody here who can say seriously Pac can stop a straight right, uppercut or counter punch. So please, can’t we all just get alone?
Mayweather has a lot better thing to do than talking.
he is currently number 3. to be the champ at Welterweight, he need to beat number 2 first (Mosley) and then beat number 1 (Pacquiao).
on the other hand, if Pacquiao-Mosley occur, whoever is the winner is instantly the champion.
Mayweather should check his standing and decide properly. if Pacquiao maintains his number one position, Pacquiao has a chance to be the champion by beating Mosley. while Mayweather has no choice but fight and beat Pacquiao.
if clottey and mayweather fought that night we will never know the outcome because we might fell asleep!or worse the decision of the judges might be based on the punches blocked rather than thrown!clottey had a broken nose,broken rib cage and bruised arms because of barrage of punches thrown by pacquiao.the only reason he connects on his punches was because pacquiao tempt him to throw one!mayweather is a joke!he might even lost to mosley if their fight is close!
still mayweather is shaking his legs ha ha ha ha….still afraid of pacquiao ha ha ha ha
you floyd huggers do live in the ‘if’ world, don’t you.. even when the fight have been over and pacman have shown what he can do, you guys always comes up with an ‘if’ thing.. ‘if’ this and ‘if’ that.. even these biased writers live in an ‘if’ world when it comes to pacquiao..
Ryan,
Likewise, if Manny had been a B or C level fighter and had missed as much as he did (and ended the fight looking the way he did), then I believe he would not have been given a whitewash on the cards (even with fighting with the same style).
I just really can’t believe that people aren’t giving Clottey more credit.
@Ryan,
I’m back at it. I have to disagree. I posted on one of your earlier articles that there appear to be double-standards in boxing. Clottey did slightly better than the judges gave him credit for because he landed the more obvious punches and caused Manny to miss nearly 1000 punches. If he had been a top notch fighter who everyone was clamoring to see (or if he had gotten the marketing push like other fighters), then I fully believe he would have been given better scores from the judges and the viewing public.
Likewise, if/ when Floyd and Manny fight, the judges will be more gracious towards Floyd if he is able to make Manny miss and pay the way Clottey did (well, the way Clottey did sometimes…).
yup pacquiao and freddie roach got exposed alright. Now I know what manny will do to a defensive fighter. He’ll just throw a gazillion punches and not let the other fighter throw any. Manny wins by points. Wow! Can’t wait to give my hard earned money to watch another boring fight.
@Anonymous
How can you like Valero.but not Pacquiao?
They are basically the same fighter. Same style. Mostly offense, little defense.
I find it real funny that prior to Floyd’s accusations regarding dope testing, none of you ever had that cross your mind, not one single person had made that statement or assumption.
REASON: You are followers, you need someone else to think and make decisions for you. It’s very common with allot of people “weak people”. Your part of the herd, you will never lead.
sorry.
Floyd will not get a lot of opportunity to throw punches with Pacquaio’s work rate and punch output. And like you said, Roac is gonna change the way Pacquiao is gonna fight therefore don’t you think that he’s gonna work on his defence after watching the Clottey fight
@Dom
It’s great that you score for accuracy, but it doesn’t really matter what you score for.
It’s obvious that the less work more accurate approach doesn’t work.. ask Clottey how that worked out for him.
Mayweather will not engage with Pacquiao. He wouldn’t even engage with Marquez. He could have knocked Marquez out at anytime, but wouldn’t, because he didn’t want to open himself up.
Here go the loudmouth again! Hey,Floyd win your May 1 fight first. You might don’t get a chance to fight the #1 P4P. Mosley could be the next opponent of Manny, which seems like a more entertaining fight!
My question is, will mayweather vs pacquiao an exiting fight to watch? Will floyd engage and give manny the beating of a life time? Hmmm…. I think not. As we all all know mayweather is a master of defense and an excelent counter puncher but not agressive take a chance fighter. I see this fight like the pacquiao vs clottey fight. It’ll be a boring one. I see pacquiao throwing masive amount of punches every round and mayweather will just block, evade, run and not get hit. I think manny won’t give mayweather a chance to throw his combination and get caught because freddy knows too well that mayweather will not engage unless pacquiao slows down or stop all together. Manny will win by decision. Again a boring not worth paying to watch kind of fight. I want to watch pacquiao vs someone like margarito, mosely, and if possible valero the knockout specialist. Now that’s a fight worth buying.
Mayweather struggled with Judah’s speed and was hit quite a few times and was also knocked down ( i don’t agree with the fact that it was ruled a slip). Judah only lost the fight because he turned the match into a street fight and began to get careless.
@Dom
If Floyd is going to fight a defensive fight, then there is no way he wins on points. All Pac has to do is keep throwing punches (whether they land or not) and he will win on points just by being busier. The only way Mayweather wins is if he can somehow knock Pacquiao out with his counter jabs.
Lets see Floyd fight Winky Wright, Paul Williams Vernon Forrest. After that lets see him fight Kelly Pavlik. That is equivalent to what Manny is doing, fighting guys much bigger and stronger than him.
You guys all know that if Floyd moved up and fought junior middle weights equivalent to how Manny has done fighting welter weights he would get his ass kicked.
Floyd, the bigger man, fought a fat Marquez, Hatton, a useless Judah, and a useless Baldomir and you Floyd lovers are jumping up in arms and saying that he is great and has the best defense.
When Floyd chooses to fight guys that are just as strong as him in the welterweight division or the junior middle weight division then you can begin to praise him.
You Floyd Lovers contradict yourself.
Floyd says Manny is a One Dimensional no defense fighter but then he says that he is too fast and strong for his size. Either you can kick Manny’s ass or you’re scared of him thus the steroid testing. If you can kick Manny’s ass like you keep shooting off your mouth then drop the drug testing and kick Manny’s ass like you said you can.
Finally, you simply minded people need to ask yourself when was the last time that Clottey was shut out in a fight. Never. Clottey has always been close in all of his fights. Pacquiao shut him down. If he threw more punches he would have been knocked out. Whatch the fight and listen to his corner begging him to throw more punches and watch Clottey
I hate all these theory’s if this was done then that would happen. If Clottey threw more punches, if Cotto fought like he did in the first round. GET YOUR DAME EXCUSES READY FOR WHEN FLOYD GETS HIS ASS KICK AFTER HE FIGHTS MANNY.
floyd is master of excuse,
if pacman is one dimensional fighter, why would you ask something rediculous blood test that never done before in your 40 fights, if you can able to beat him, why? where is your logic men, c’mon just tell the world that you just scared to fight pacman
you punch like a power pop girl, i mean power pop girl courage is better than you…
@Dom
… the only “thing” too
@Dom
The only this Mayweather will be doing in circles is running.
@ Anonymous
Pac and Barrera fought twice, not three times. He fought Morales three times, beat him twice.
you say Pac fights over the hill fighters that have one style.
I say Mayweather fights a bunch of nobodies, whose styles don’t really matter because they suck so much.
..and yes, I know who he’s fought. His only quality wins against quality fighters are Judah and Corrales..and maybe castillo.
Pacquiao has never fought the best out there man..c’mon son! Barrera and morales were washed up. And pacman had three fights with Barrera not two. Manny only fights slow, stiff, straight forward fighters, who cant move. Lets keep it real. Besides Marquez, name one fighter that Manny has fought since 2003 that dont fit this mold(slow, stiff, straightforward fighters). How many African American fighters has he fought? None. And this is not about race, nor im i saying African American fighters cant be beat. What im saying is that African American have a slick, more eluisive style. And I guarantee you guys like Mayweather, Mosley, Berto, Judah, Valero, and Bradley Jr. will beat Pacquiao.
@FIGHTNIGHT
Morales and Barrera were washe up when Pacquiao fought them. And they had already fought each other 3 times by then. However, i will say Oscar was washed up floyd fought him. So, if he was washed up when floyd fought him, he was way over the hill when he fought pacman.
How can you say that Floyd beat a prime ODLH. ODLH was not in his prime. Floyd beat a washed up and old ODLH and that too by a split decision.
Pacquiao beat Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barerra, two of the greatest Mexican fighters of all time. You cannot compare Corales and Gatti to them two.
Sorry, but De La Hoya was not in his prime when fighting PBF or Manny. Before PBF he lost to Shane, should’ve lost to Sturm, lost to Hopkins, and won against Mayorga. De La Hoya was on his way out when he fought both fighters.
We all should want to see Pac vs Floyd just to determine who really is the best. Both fighters haven’t faced a fighter with the skillset that each one has. So no one knows who will win the fight. Floyd could pick Manny apart with counter punching or Manny could knock Floyd out with his aggressiveness and power. Everybody here is spitting knowledge like they know something about being professional championship caliber boxers. We should just all get together and demand the fight between Manny and PBF and all the haters on both sides will shut the hell up.
Mosley can upset everyone by taking both PBF and Manny in the same year, something that neither fighter was willing to do.
@ Fighter
Apparently in your bizarro world, one can claim to be the greatest of all time by beating shamba mitchell, carlos baldomir, demarcus corley, henry bruseles and phillip n’dou.
he beat judah and corrales, and?
pacquiao beat morales (twice), barrera (twice), marquez (should have been twice), and cotto.
he beat gatti? so. gatti was an exciting fighter, not a good boxer.
pacquiao has fought the best fighters in whatever division he’s fighting in. pacquiao has only been fighting in the welterweight division for a year, and he’s fought 2 top 5 guys already.
floyd, who claims to be the best welterweight hasn’t fought any welterweights in 4 years.
@ fighter
Floyd beat a prime de la hoya? are you friggin serious?
de la hoya was in his prime between 96 and 02.
Paquiao fans sound bitter and hurt by the realness of the article and have started name calling once again, like this is pre school. Back to floyd v shane… a real fight!!
RealBoxingFan, who produces the fights? The very same people who want these arguments on the internet, in the papers & on the streets. Where do you think the money they pay these fighters come from? They come from the very fans who are here arguing about who’s the better fighter. These fans right here are the ones who buy the ticket to the fight, buy pay per view and buy the products the fighters endorse in & out of the ring. Every single one of the fans here have every right to argue a point for their man – be it a Pacquiao fan or a Mayweather fan.
You think only “realboxingfans” would make fights happen? You are one self-absorbed pr!ck. Getting back to the topic, Pacquiao will destroy Mayweather.
Pride 79, being realistic is seeing how incredible Pacquiao’s wins are in his past fights – including that with Clottey. Clottey admitted in the interview after the fight that Manny was too fast for him. To say NEVER is unrealistic.
This fight was fake..
Clottey is promoted by Bob Arum..
He was told not to throw punches and the only one twos that he threw he really hurt manny..
this is Fake!!!!
@Fighter-
If clottey woulda done this or that, then this woulda happened. Fact: he didn’t do squat, reason, didn’t want to get hit.
Second- I find it real funny that prior to Floyd’s accusations regarding dope testing, none of you ever had that cross your mind, not one single person had made that statement or assumption. REASON: You are followers, you need someone else to think and make decisions for you. It’s very common with allot of people “weak people”. Your part of the herd, you will never lead.
sorry.
If Clottey can land clean like that on Manny, we’ll see Manny’s destruction if he faces Mosley, OR Mayweather. He knows it too. He must’ve hit a serious low by now, knowing he’s sure to ose if he picks either. He already walked away from offers from both fighters. Shane did’nt care about drug tests, he just wants to fight.
Yo Bill, if u seriously think that having no DEFENSE & having your face look like the elephant man’s after 12 rounds with JOSHUA freakin CLOTTEY takes skill, then I agree with blogger before, U R A CASUAL FAN…. Hey RICKY, I never said I was a May fan…. Just being realistic, Pac will NEVER beat May!
Manny’s the p4p king. Well deserved. He just fought who? Number 5 was it. I wonder what the winner of Mosley/Mayweather will be, p4p king of the universe. Apparently, in this twilite zone we live in, you get to be p4p knig, and decades best, by losing to b fighters, by losing WITHIN said decade, and being handed victories you did’nt earn. Way to go Manny!
RealBoxingFan, you asked me how the buzz helps boxing & you get worked up when you don’t like the answer. Who produces the fights? The very same people who want the arguments on the internet, in the papers & on the streets.
Where do you think the money they pay these fighters come from? They come from the very fans who are here arguing about who’s the better fighter. These fans right here are the ones who buy the ticket to the fight, buy pay per view and buy the products the fighters endorse in & out of the ring. Every single one of the fans here have every right to argue a point for their man – be it a Pacquiao fan or a Mayweather fan.
You think only “realboxingfans” would make fights happen? You are one self-absorbed prick. If you don’t like to read the arguments here, then don’t read them & don’t post here.
Getting back on topic, Pacquiao will destroy Mayweather.
@Fighter-
At what weight did Manny fight JMM? At what weight did Floyd fight him at? Those do not even compare. Truth is, Floyd could not even put away a small small fighter like JMM. The two fights have no comparison.
pac will never ever beatt he p4p king Floyd. Only in his dreams.
the pacnuthuggers are out in force to defend their lumpia boy who cannot ad will never beat Floyd, Williams, Mosley, Valero, Gamboa, Bradley, John.
Pride 79, let me get this straight. All you Mayweather fans are never impressed with anyone Pacquiao defeats. Open your eyes. Pacquiao beat the boxers who were holding the title previously. What? There’s a worldwide conspiracy to have only those boxers tailored to Pacquiao’s style be the title holders in their divisions?
And quit with the Hatton & Dela Hoya. Pacquiao KO’d Hatton in the second round and made Dela Hoya quit. Mayweather took a lot of time to beat both fighters. Please…
The p4p king Floyd can and will detroy pacface in 3-4 rounds. That little pilipino has no business fighting a master like Floyd or Mosley or Williams.
Your talking about promoters of course they want buzz thats gonna fatten thier pockets.
Playboy it only holds water if they fight. and if they dont, your gonna keep the buzz going right?
I just wanna see great fights in every division
if boxing stays the same, then we get fights years to late or dont get them at all. And the fans are stuck arguing to no end.
Let me get this straight…. Manny takes out a bum like Fatton, a past his prime DLH, a shot Cotto, & a just happy 2 be there clottey & everybody thinks he’s the greatest ever! He clearly lost 2 against a prime JMM, & 1 to a worn out Morales…. When he finally gets it on with May he will be exposed for what he truly is…. Igor get off Pac Mans *!@k
Who won the fight? Oh yeah the onedimensional no talent pacman. I’m amazed by some of the st I read on this site. Pac completely dominated this fight with punches, speed and foot work. Like clottey Floyd is a defensive fighter who doesn’t throw a lot of punches so what makes anyone think it would be that much different if Floyd and pac fought. Now granted Floyd is a superior fight to clottey but its not as if Floyd has the power to ko pacman. Pac would use his movement and speed to overwhelm Floyd and force him to actually fight something he doesn’t do or Floyd would end up losing every round like clottey did. He couldn’t knockout jmm who was much smaller and never fought at ww before, no way he ko’s or even hurts him. I think its a boring fight, the exciting fight would be with shane. Floyd says his fights are all action, c’mon of he thinks that then he IS as dumb as sounds. If he thinks pac is one dimensional and he beats shane ( who he’s only fight because pac fought clottey and he didn’t want to be embarrassed by fighting malinaggi) then step up and fight. If he doesn’t he’ll just be the loud mouth whiny bih he’s always been.
Promoters want the buzz. This thread here is a buzz. Do you think there would be interest in a Pacquiao – Mayweather if these “fakefans” here that you so defined, never opened their mouths on who’s the better fighter?
Now, saying that this only holds true for other sports makes you blind to your own faults.
You know . . . I hate to even comment on this subject, but Manny did show some weaknesses. He basicially beats-up all flat footed fighters. His defense is in questions and he ability to escape the punch is evident. Manny is a beast, dont get me wrong, but he has to reverse his game-plan whenever he fights Mayweather. Mayweather escapes danger well, while firing back accurate counter punches. The difficulty for Mayweather will be escaping punches from a fighter that throws from all angles. Also, at some point, Mayweather will have to trade, because Pacquiao’s work rate is too high to lose a decision.
Freddie roach said it himself. He must fight like no other way he has fought. Manny all-offense style boxing will do nothing but frustrate himself when nothing lands. Clottey basically stood in front without ANY movement. Manny Pacquaio is a STORM!! This is a very sensitive subject to a lot of fans because we can only base our comments of speculation, fan base, and/or past fights (myself included) But the reality of it is that this fight will define greatness, no matter how much each fighter is paid!!! PERIOD!!
The only reason as to why Pacquiao’s face was messed up was due to the fact that Clottey punches hard, much harder than Cotto and Magrihto can confirm that.
Mayweather will not be able to keeep up with Pacquiao’s work rate and punch output and if he does land any pucnches, they won’t make an impact as he is not as hard a puncher as Pacquiao’s previous opponents, after all Pacquiaos got a good chin which is evident from his fight with Clottey
Im not Preaching
Please explain how talking about whos better on the internet helps boxing if the FIGHTS dont happen.
what u said is true in other sports where they have to settle all the talk
RealBoxingFan, if YOU KNOW BOXING AND SPORTS in general, you should know that these fans fighting over the internet for their man actually helps BOXING AND SPORTS in general. It is in fact what the promoters and the athletes want to happen. Stop preaching please.
mayweather needs to make up his mind.. first he says pacquaio has become an “extraordinary” fighter, now he says pacquiao is “one-dimensional”.
so, which one is it? if pacquiao is so one-dimensional, then he shouldn’t have a problem beating him, steroids or no steroids.
i don’t understand all you mayweather sack suckers. you love to put down pacquaio because of the perceived level of his opponents. but, besides his common opponents with pacquiao (oldh and hatton), who has mayweather fought, besides diego corrales and zab judah?
shamba mitchell? carlos baldomir? arturo gatti? demarcus corley? henry bruseles? phillip n’dou? a bloated JMM?
really? he’s considered great because he beat those guys?
over the last seven years, pacquiao has fought morales (3 times) barrera (twice) marquez (twice) cotto, clottey, and he retired both oldh and hatton.
even the bums (larios, diaz, solis) that pacquiao has fought lately are better than the guys mayweather has been fighting. so who’s the one cherry picking his opponents?
mayweather claims to be the best in his division, when he hasn’t even fought anyone in his division since 2006.
mayweather is a fraud
Mayweather and his fans can trash talk all they want. Fact of the matter is that Manny Pacquiao is THE POUND FOR POUND boxer. Mayweather isn’t and he is found wanting…
If you really want to fight a guy, why would you scare him so he backs out and walks away?
How does this makes sense?
The real question is how does someone not scared of a person, who is scared of them, allow that person to scare them?
Im not bashing PAC. I just find it funny how the fakefans argue like little girls over boy bands. PBF’s fakefans also.
A lot of people seems to not like the guy who talks and tries to get into the head of the other fighter (PBF) and says he does it bcuz he’s scared. You people DO NOT KNOW BOXING OR SPORTS IN GENERAL. The game is 50% mental, if you allow your oppenent to get into your head your 1/2way finished already. Right or wrong? Or was Ali really scared of everyone he faced bcuz he’s the best example of trash talking at its finest.
pac would be lucky to win two rounds against the p4p king, Floyd. JMM beat him 2x!
You don’t get to be the best p4p fighter in the world, Fighter of the decade, fighter of the year 3 times, World Champ in 6 different weights by being one dimensional. Mayweather is talking through his anal pipe ar usual!
the little pilipino wannabe can NEVER EVER beat Floyd or any other top fighter. The pac nuthuggers here love to rip Floyd because they want a taste of pacs ass.
Floyd, Mosley, Gamboa, Vaero, Bradley, Berto, Williams
ALL WOULD DESTROY the pac idiot. Many pac ball lickers here do not know anything about boxing, they are just here to worship pacs jock.
It’s funny how Mayweather had to ask when the last time anyone saw his face messed up like Pacquiao’s after the fight. Of course no one has. No one could because kind of like Clottey, he’s always on the defense. He doesn’t get messed up because he doesn’t fight!
mayweather is no match to clottey!!!!!
you idiots!
mayweather would have gotten tore up by clottey!
from Lahar flow 4 comment: I just want to post it again:
So what are you afraid of Floyd?
Here are the reasons why you should fight Pacquiao.
From your own words.
1. Pacquiao is one dimensional.
2. Pacquiao is open to counterpunch.
3. Pacquiao is small.
4. Pacquiao has no skill.
5. Pacquiao is poor, Floyd is rich.
6. Pacquiao is making a mistake in fighting you.
7. Pacquiao is an easy fight.
If you really want to fight a guy, why should you attempt to
scare him…so that he backs-out and walk away…I suspect the scare tactics are for the benefit of Floyd, so that Pacquiao
does not destroy him…All this talks are for Floyd’s brain so that his fans do not abandon him…deep inside, his fans are boxing fans and the truth is they can recognize who is really the best. Floyd’s hold on his fans is weak…as weak as his claim…and as weak as his LIES…Lies…lies
nice comment….
Yeah, and the “one-dimensional fighter” won by UNANIMOUS decision. Hmm…
Pac should easily beat floyd’s defence, he showed and proved that with Clottey. I think there’s no one out there that Pacquiao cannot beat.
I’m not defending Margarito. I’m just saying he was gonna lose that night no matter who the opponent was because he was mentally not there after being busted for cheating. He was the favorite in that fight and was never in it at all. At the time it seemed Shane was just better, but looking back I believe Margarito was already mentally beaten. How else could Shane look so spectacular after being not so spectacular recently? I hope Mayweather-Mosely is a great fight. I don’t care who wins. Just hope Mosely doesn’t get frustrated like he did against Winky’s defense.
Shane might be a better opponent for Floyd than usual, but don’t be surprised if Floyd wins easy. Hopefully Shane will make a fight of it. However he is 38 years old. Alot of people are judging Shane by his win over Margarito, but I do believe Margarito was beaten before he entered the ring. He was deflated by the fact he was busted for cheating in the dressing room beforehand and he knew he was going to be suspended so he was mentally not there for the fight. Mosely did fight a great fight of course, but other than that fight Mosely has not looked that great. He struggled against Ricardo Mayorga, lost to Cotto, let David Estrada go the distance with him, and before that was beaten and frustrated by Winky Wright twice.
To Floyd and and his fans; If floyd still aiming for the P4p position that Pac has, he should first beat the P4P King. As Floyd said before he is coming back to reclaim the pound for pound title. That cannot happen if he keeps inventing ways no to fight Pacquiao.
It looks more like Floyd came and emmediately trys to make a U-TURN soon as he learned that Pac was and always been willing to fght him. But Floyd needs money, he cannot retire right away again so he decides to scavenge Pac’s leftovers. While doing so though, he is being ridiculed for bi*tching too much and making unheared excuses. He doesn’t want to look scared but he is in the minds of majority fans.
Floyd needs the money by the way, so if he wants it he should fight Pac because Pac is the draw in boxing. Money from a fight with Moseley is nothing compared to what Floyd would get if he fights Pac. So FLOYD,… IF YOU WANT THE BIGGEST PAYCHEQUE OF YOUR LIFE, STOP BEING A BI*TCH AND JUST FIGHT PAC. YOU SAID YOU CAME BACK TO FIGHT FOR THE P4P TITLE WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY NOT IN MOSELEY’s WAIST. PAC IS WAITING SO PLEASE PUT ON YOUR BALLS AND COME AND GET HIM.
I agree with xspot…..PACQUIAO EXPOSED THE WHOLE WORLD HOW TO HANDLE A DEFENSIVE FIGHTER.
I doubt any other fighter would win every round against Clottey.
Pacquiao will handle Mayweather’s defense because he will constantly attack and will not get frustrated. And Mayweather does not jab that much lately…watch the film.
“One Dimensional fighter” means if you are consistent in only one result (winning or losing) then you are a 1 dimensional fighter, in Pacman’s case, he’s winning every fight and just like floyd he is also a 1 dimensional boxer, until he fights the Pacman, he will become 2 dimensional….that is just my own idiotic opinion…lol.
if mayweather decide run and jab. 3 to 4 punch combination from all angles will be coming straight to him……mayweather will RUN, QUIT, AND CRY ALL NIGHT AFTER THE FIGHT.!!!!
And Garduno, what’s with the last paragraph? The huge Filipino population? Huh. Oh yeah I forgot the networks always clamor to win the Filipino demographic. Cmon man be serious. Didn’t everyone already know Ali when he fought Spinks at the Superdome?
Wow what kind of a statement was that?
Floyd can’t be serious saying that Pacquiao made that a boring fight, yeah it wasn’t as exciting as usual but that was down to Clottey walking around like a statue most of the fight! As for Floyd saying that with him at least you get 30 minutes of action, well watching him slip move and counter for twelve rounds is hardly action is it? I know who i’d rather watch! Having said that, I still think if the two fought Pacquiao would probably chase Floyd around the ring all night and lose a decision due to being jabbed the whole fight!
mayweather make a statement like that….because he is afraid that mosley might pattern the fighting style the way paccquiao did…BECAUSE PACQUIAO EXPOSED THE WHOLE WORLD HOW TO HANDLE A DEFENSIVE FIGHTER. Without knowing the true meaning of one dimensional fighter….he just say that…so that he can go in the head of pacquiao. THE TRUTH IS MAYWEATHER IS AFRAID OF WHAT HE SAW!!!!!!!
floyd is more 1 dimensional…
he RUNS, RUNS, and RUNS!
pac floyd match will feature another stipulation, the ring is as big as a football field
laces em up……..YEAh definitely he fight the best………….especially the best lightweigth ha ha ha ha…..But the thing is mayweather tactically overweight himself so that he can have a huge advantage over the smaller mind……ha ha ha…thats mayweather…
He’s afraid that mosley migh pattern his fight plan same to pacquioa…….because if mosley follow that…..mayweather will not last…mayweather will be KO BEFORE 10 ROUND. mayweather defense movement his style is definitely exposed….his style and skill is not a factor anymore,,,,,50,000 solid fans who watch that nigth live already knew that mayweather is not great anymore as considered by others…..mayweather should win over mosley or else GOODBYE!!!
Can someone explain, what is a “one dimensional fighter”.
It seems that we’ve seeing this very commonly now…what does it
really mean?
Boxing fans, what can you say?
Clottey’s clam-shell defense made him look impenetrable but
few people noticed Pacquiao’s 1,231 punches was the better defense and that made the difference between a winning and a losing defense.
hahaha!.. the chicken attack again!..
c’mon floydi… pac got expose coz he let it happen to open clotteys defend!..
stop commenting floyd… you make yourself look like you dont know nothing in your own sport of boxing..
santiperes….. you are definitely right…..how can you believe in him …if he didn’t stay to his prima question about pacquiao…………..he just really botherd by the fact is better than him.
He’s reversing the thing…..because mayweather cannot handle fighters who put a lot of offensive and speed in the fight..and specially a southpaw…..mayweather will KO by pacquiao in 4 round
Yea Floyd he was exposed by winning every round. When have you ever fought a big welter like Clottey Floyd ? Never is the answer. Clottey gave Judah a beat down the guy who gave you trouble and would have beaten you if he wasn’t a 4 round fighter.
I was expecting Floyd to say”see what I mean? that guy must be on ‘roids how can he maintain the speed and power for 12 rounds without getting tired? At least now he is saying he can beat him, so lets get the contract signed Floyd!
Yes Pacman is a one dimensional fighter a win, win, win, win and another win dimensional fighter, is that what you mean?
@ XSPOT
floyd tried to fight the one yall claimed “of the decade”..manny was too scared to be exposed so floyd fought one of the best in shane..how is this not fighting the best ?? manny fought a tomato can !! theres a reason manny can throw 1000 plus punches… clottey didnt fight back !! they know how to make manny look good, since he only has a good offense..just give him a supply of fighters w little or no defense !! manny could fight my little sister and you pactards would try justify it some how…
Should be easy for you then Floyd, take the fight and show us how great u are? mmm didnt think so
@ rodb AMEN
The main difference between now and then is to be the best you fought the best, and only then could you even think about talking. Would Ali have ever been respected if he didn’t fight Frazier, and do you think Ali would have been the champ that he was if he didn’t dish it out as well as take it.
Look at the 80′s. We could be there right now with the guys in this weight division. (Not that they’re as good) We could have our version of Hearns, Haglar, Leonard and Duran. Think of it Mosley, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Williams you could go on.
We are stacked with Welter’s or fighters that could be squaring off. I f they would just strap it on and get it on we could be in the middle of a rebirth.
MMA gyms are full all over North America. There is even a tv reality show. Look at the Contender compared to The Ultimate Fighter. Why didn’t that show succeed? Why is The Ultimate Fighter still going. Because it’s warriors that go head to head, and if you want to be champ you have to fight the best.
I watched the Contender more than I watched the Ultimate Fighter, man Sugar Ray was there mentoring young fighters. Sadly though the public just wasn’t interested.
The business side of things has screwed it up for boxing. We have a chance to right the ship. Just go out and fight. Put up or shut up.
@fighttime69 They would be losses. I don’teven think they would have beaten fighters like Meldrick Taylor or even a PRIME Hector Camacho SR.
Why is Manny the P4P King? Because the press, majority of Boxing Fans and the award body that gave him the title “Fighter of the Decade”
Why is Floyd “NOT” the P4P King, because he is the only one that says so and of course his die hard fans.
The whole world is the witness…the Internet and the modern mass media will not allow him to lie..lie…lie I say!
Top defensive fighter of this era vs the top offensive fighter of the era, hope Arum and Floyd let us see it.
mayweather is not like ali…..ali speaks a lot but he fights the best…..
mayweather speaks a lot but afraid of the best…………..thers a clear difference hawaian man.
Esteban:
Stop deleting my comments. You’re a hack.
@crazy. I think Pac or floyd would have had trouble with fighters from the earlier eras. How about Pac vs Pryor at 140, Pac vs Sugar Ray or May vs Whitaker. I miss the earlier eras. I just can’t wait for these guys to fight.
Also,
Manny is not popular simply because he is from the Phillipines and he is not only popular among Filipinos.
He is popular because he an extremely compassionate and authentically goodnatured person who delivers some of the most exciting fights with his explosive offense. He personally has made boxing relevant again to many people who have overlooked the sport since Mike Tyson.
Even if you dislike him as a boxer, give him the credit he deserves. I personally dislike Floyd Mayweather as a person. He is greedy, arrogant, and offensive. However, I acknowledge that he is a talented boxer. Is he the best welterweight of our time – well, that remains to be seen. Let’s see him fight Pacquiao.
like i said before pac was never gonna get through that guard of clotteys. lucky for pac he had enough wind to last the 12 rounds for a point win.
clotteys game plan was sound. its just pac just had enough wind to last. i can see floyd pulling it off much better than clottey. let pac wiff air for the first 10 while aiming at closing both pacs eyes with pot shots. pac will lose more stamina faster against floyd since pac has to chase him around the ring.
this way pac doesnt get a point advantage over floyd (unlike clottey) while floyds hit % will be way better than pacs.
if floyd can stay away and pacs wind lasts itll be a decision win for floyd.
Floyd’s marketing scheme WWE-style is to rattle the public so they will buy his fight, he’s drawing the Fans in by insulting their intelligence…so we would buy the fight just to see him lose….Just like Ali did in his pre-fight with Sonny Liston..”I’m The Greatest” was his words…he drew the whole world…
Mayweather ; If he’s one-dimensional and beatAble as you say then,,,,,why don’t you stop these ped allegations and get in the ring with him?!? I’m betting you won’t because basically, you’re too afraid of him. THE END.
mayweather cannot accept the truth that pacquaio is way better than him by a mile.
Mayweather and Pacquioa are good fighters that’s a given. They stand out in boxing because boxing has become a business instead of a sport in the last 15 years. In the late 70′s and 80′s, both of them would have gotten lost in the crowd of good boxers. They would have had to work their way up the ranking to earn a title shot instead of title shots given to them because of their name, In each division. If they even would have made it to the top. TRUE KNOWLEDGABLE BOXING FANS understand what I’m saying because they know the caliber of the top 10 fighters of each division back in the days.
Pac is one dimensional. Pac is boring. I’m so pretty. No one has or ever will bust my face up.
If PBF is so good and so confident, why doesn’t he fight under the rules that he always has? Put up and shut up.
Before PBF retired did he turn boxing around? Could he fill a 51,000 seat stadium fighting a heavy bag? Was he featured in Time magazine?
The champions that truly caught the public’s eye were true warriors. Ali, Leonard, Hagglar, Hearns, Tyson. Were they technically sound? Were they all about defense first? Were they never hit? Were they never bloody? Were they always pretty?
Third biggest attendance of all time. Fighting Joshua Clottey? A fighter from the Philippines and a fighter from Ghana selling out in Texas? George Dubya’s Texas. Home of the Dallas Cowboys?
Give credit where credit is due. Imagine if that was Mosley or PBF? He could sell out the Rose Bowl.
Enough talk. They need to fight. PBF is 40 and 0 fighting under the same regulations he has his whole career. He’s bigger than him and taller and obviously more skilled. So get it on or get the commission to change the rules.
Money put it where your mouth is. Fight this one dimensional, flat footed, smaller and and claim your crown.
Nuff said.
@fighter I’m glad you think letting an opponent hit you is absurd. I agree so don’t be mad at me. Manny said after the Cotto fight he tested his power. You do remember that?
And didn’t the Greatest Ali cover up and let opponents hit him? Yes.
ok ..and you never seen Floyd let an apponent hit him? Did you see him fight N’dou or Corley?
How did Marquez beat Manny twice? Manny was robbed in the first fight….btw Marquez was lucky the 3 knockdown rule was not in effect.
@fighter: Thanx for the good analysis. You know the fight game also. I don’t see Pac beating May or Mosley. I think he would have a hard time with Berto even. I give Manny credit, he has heart though.
Why are you Mayweather and Pacqioa fans so closed minded? Why can’t you guys look at things objectively? Are you guys real boxing fans or bandwagon fans? Both fighters have their pros and cons.
Of course his face will still continue to look the same. “MAYWEATHER WILL NEVER FIGHT ANYBODY THAT CAN THROW A HARD PUNCH!!!” Why the hell brag about his face never getting beat up??
May first, will be May’s first! Where is all the trash talking about Mosley from Mayweather and his camp? There was surprisingly minimal trash talking from FMJ at their press conference. Fmj spoke more about Pacquioa then he did about Mosley. WHY? Mayweather has always known that Mosley is the REAL DEAL!
jb. Who was there for Mayweather to fight at the time of Gatti? Gatti was the biggest thing back then, especially after the Micky Ward wars. Morales was’nt atop his game yet, and even when he was, he was not as good as Floyd. Margarito was always tough, but an obvious speed handicap on his part. He called out Shane.
Now, let’s talk about Manny’s rise to his paper championship. Who is the fighter he beat that made him p4p anything? Marquez, who arguably beat him twice. You can’t leave any room when you’re the p4p best, so it can’t be him, specially after Floyd made it look so easy. Maybe ODLH? Floyd had already destroyed him 2-3 years prior..lots of inactivity, then Manny fights the old guy. Was it Cotto, who is slow, and coming off defeat? Maybe Clottey…pf.st.mm.hahahahah! These fighters are all flawed. If you can’t admitt it, there’s no reason to go further with this. The only person around was Margarito, Shane, and Zab. He beat the equally quick Zab. He had already called out Mosley in 98-99. he only one he should have fought was Margarito. I think he would have beat Margarito, but it would have been ugly win, as Margarito has a difficult style. The fact is, that Floyd has beaten the fighters that gave Manny great difficulty, OR, beat them first, and softened them up for Manny.
@fighter I never said Floyd was boring.
I didn’t say bigger was better. I’m just saying the perception in boxing is that fighting a bigger man is more of a risk than fighting someone two weight classes smaller.
I like Pacquiao and Mayweather. I just don’t see Mayweather beating Pacquiao. He does not have the speed anymore. One quick punch at a time is not gonna work on Manny. At this point Manny even has the better foot speed.
And the only reason Manny got hit at all by Clottey is because he let him. Just like he let Cotto hit him to see what he had. Manny barely got hit by Cotto or Clottey in 24 total rounds. I know people are thinking of Floyd as fast handed but look again at the tapes of his recent fights. Punch output is down.
@chitownfighter:You have made the most sense of comments on this article. You know the boxing game. I’m with you 100%. may better be on his game against Mosley. I like Pac but I think Floyd would beat him on points. It’s easy to look good against a fighter who is just trying to go rounds.
Mayweather will be so defensive against Pacquiao that Manny will need to throw over 1000 punches and yes he will do it. And Mayweather will be holding alot, and trying to backpedal.
Mayweather will not exchange combinations and one punch at a time will not stop Manny. He can take a punch. Mayweather was rocked twice by light punching Demarcus Corley who is also a southpaw, and that was at 140lbs!
@JB. Being the big guy in a fight, is only momentus in street fighting, where possibly inexperienced fighters, use brute strength, and little strategy. In boxing, being bigger is’nt always better. Manny looks good against these guys for a reason. Don’t forget, Oscar, Cotto, Clottey, Hatton, all are naturally bigger than Manny, and thus, slower. Floyd stands to risk more, fighting guys who throw few punches, and have low workrate. Yet he still beat the likes of Judah and Marquez.
I take it you’re a Manny fan. that’s fine. But let’s be honest for a minute. Most of the argument amongst Manny fans, is that Floyd is boring because he does not knock people out, and his fights go the distance, and thus and so. NOW, we have Manny going the distance, in an ugly win, where he got hit with more clean shots than all his last 3 fights combined, and certainly got hit with more shots than Mayweather ever did, yet you find a way to turn it around, and argue that Manny did something extraordinary, by beating this guy who they knew were slow, who they knew used a clashell defense, and who they knew Manny would outscore, but not hurt. Keep it real.
HBO plays alot of politics so they wanted to make sure the P4P title stayed with their network. But Floyd never deserved that title. And he did not reclaim that title by beating Marquez as some people believe. Try to imagine Manny fighting an opponent two weight classes smaller at this point!
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@Crazy. I don’t care for May, or Manny either. They both have traits that I dipise. I do love the sport. I have many opinions on the subject, and no matter how accurate Floyd’s assessment of the Clottey fight was (he was accurate), he has no buisiness talking, unless he’s willing to do whatever it takes to prove his case, and fight him. That means drop this drug thing, and put his $ where his mack is. You make a very good point. I read the article in which Floyd was quoted saying that Manny was ordinary, then was extraordinary…and now he says he’s one dimensional. That’s what happens when you B/S too much, you get caught up. He told his true feelings for a minute, when he said Manny went from Ordinary to greatness, because Floyd never compliments anybody. If he thinks Manny is on PED’s, thus on them for the Clottey fight too, then it should’nt matter if he gargles elephant hormones, he should’nt be able to beat Floyd. Floyd’s a d!ck, but I personally take That line, that no matter what Manny’s on, he can’t beat Floyd. And I think I’m a pretty good judge of the matter, as I can’t stand Floyd. I don’t like him, but based on his past performances, and manny’s past performances, I think he would win. Obviously, he has some insecurities about that. He should DEFINATELY be worried about Shane right now, as Shane is a WAY bigger threat than Manny. Shane is a natural WW, he hits like a mule, and is not affraid of engagement. No matter how great Floyd is, it is always in the back of my mind, as I watch him fight, that he seems a little nervous about taking chances. We have never seen that from Mosley. Even if he’s losing, he’s gonna go out with a bang. Floy’s M.O. is to play it safe. Just my opinion.
I TOTALLY AGREE w/ ya Fighter
Team Pacquiao is just waiting for the right timing.
When everything is clear, meaning, Floyd lays down all his
demands that he can think of for avoiding the fight…then
suddenly Team Pacquiao will just agree ( Blood testing and all).
You will notice that as soon as Floyd hears about it, he will
suddenly keep quiet, and you will not hear from him for a while.
Then after a while, he will start yappin again about other things…complaining…and accusing.
Have you noticed that every interview of Floyd, he has to explain whatever he is saying…like, in his own mind, nobody believes or understands him.
I wish people would stop with all this Mayweather cant handle Pac’s 1200 punhces. This is the only fight Pac threw 1200 punches in (if not, one of the few) and folks are acting like this is something he does every fight!! And the ONLY reason he did was because Clottey wasnt doing nothing. PLEASE stop it!!!
Am I the only one who has noticed this? But before Mayweather fought Gatti, the guys at HBO were not caalling Mayweather the best fighter in the world. Larry Merchant referenced the fact that Mayweather never filled the seats even in his hometown when he fought N’dou. And Emanual Steward said to compare Floyd to the all-time greats was ridiculous. But after he beat Gatti they started calling him the top P4P fighter in the world. They even admitted the Gatti fight was a mis-match. But buy the time he fought Baldomir, after beating Judah (who is decent) and Mitchell (who is not that great), they were hyping him as the best. And we knew Baldomir was not a challenge either. Floyd fights safety first and that’s all there is to it. When Manny gets hit it inspires him to fight back even harder.
Floyd has been playing it safe. In his last two fights he fought smaller men. Don’t forget Hatton moved up in weight to fight Floyd. Pacquiao has been fighting much bigger men in his last four fights.
@fighter
Me angry what was that little outburst there all about just cos I’m having a dig a floyd Maylover doesn’t mean you have to bite so hard might i suggest anger management or something
it doesnt matter how good mayweather is, what is fair is fair. period.
GatasngMonk, Crazy, I agree with both of you. Amongst those who know the sport, and have no ties to either fighter, the concensus seems to be (even in the face of all the p4p, and fighter of the decade crap) that Floyd is the better technical fighter, by far. And of course his big mouth will be sure that everybody knows it, but I don’t love boxing for the press conferances, for the talk, for the politics. I love boxing, and am only concerned about the event itself. Floyd should stop verbally trying to convince the world, and do it w/ his hands. Shut up and fight. Show us, because regardless of your arrogant ways, we love to watch you box.
@Crazy. I don’t care for May, or Manny either. They both have traits that I dipise. I do love the sport. I have many opinions on the subject, and no matter how accurate Floyd’s assessment of the Clottey fight was (he was accurate), he has no buisiness talking, unless he’s willing to do whatever it takes to prove his case, and fight him. That means drop this drug thing, and put his $ where his mack is. You make a very good point. I read the article in which Floyd was quoted saying that Manny was ordinary, then was extraordinary…and now he says he’s one dimensional. That’s what happens when you B/S too much, you get caught up. He told his true feelings for a minute, when he said Manny went from Ordinary to greatness, because Floyd never compliments anybody. If he thinks Manny is on PED’s, thus on them for the Clottey fight too, then it should’nt matter if he gargles elephant hormones, he should’nt be able to beat Floyd. Floyd’s a d!ck, but I personally take That line, that no matter what Manny’s on, he can’t beat Floyd. And I think I’m a pretty good judge of the matter, as I can’t stand Floyd. I don’t like him, but based on his past performances, and manny’s past performances, I think he would win. Obviously, he has some insecurities about that. He should DEFINATELY be worried about Shane right now, as Shane is a WAY bigger threat than Manny. Shane is a natural WW, he hits like a mule, and is not affraid of engagement. No matter how great Floyd is, it is always in the back of my mind, as I watch him fight, that he seems a little nervous about taking chances. We have never seen that from Mosley. Even if he’s losing, he’s gonna go out with a bang. Floy’s M.O. is to play it safe. Just my opinion.
Pac is one dimensional? Sure, if you say so. But he is either knocking the pickles out of his opponents or plainly dominating them, how many dimensions does Pac need? LOL.
Ok, so Floyd is multi-dimensional. He’s got better defense, more accurate and powerful offense, nimbler on his feet. Sure. So why ask for a blood test? With his multi-dimensionality and superiority he should be able to beat a smaller fighter PED or no PED?
(Forgiveness, my fellow Pac fans, I believe Floyd will beat Pac, easily and convincingly. But until he has done so, he should just shut his pie hole close and fight Manny.)
Floyd when was the last time you fought someone the size of Clottey? I’ll give you the answer Never. Pacquiao was toying with Clottey he was allowing Clottey some free shots just so that he would mixed it up when Pacqiao came back Clottey went into a turtle shell. Anyone who wins all 12 rounds can’t be exposed the only person making these anylysis has to be a complete bafoon.
@Bull. No. You told Nigel to F off. But now that I have your attention, this place is for those who like to discuss, and debated intelligently about la cosa nostra…boxing. Should I or anybody else be impressed with your toughguy talk?
Why so angry? Mad because I can provide an opinion, and back it up with facts? I’m not saying my opinion is fact, but there’s no disputing what has already happened in the past. F#ck the rest of this explaining crap. I’ll just tell you str8 just like I always do. The only reason you’re typing so tough, is because you’re behind a screen. I PROMISE, you would not be sayin that face to face. You’re a typical telephone toughguy. A freind of Dorothy. A sanfransiscan. A doodoo chaser. Get my meaning. Stay in your lane punk. There’s no cause for that kind of talk. If you don’t like what I have to say, don’t adress me, or better yet, GTF out!
You are obviously an ignoramous with no boxing knowledge, because all you do is say meaningless crap that does not apply to the sport.
Mayweather vs Pacquaio will be like Pacquiao vs clottey part 2 trust Mayweathers best days are behind him pacman needs to be aiming for the likes of Williams, Martinez, Berto, volero, Alexander or Bradley
@haku.. why you hate the pacman that much? is it because his a small asian guy and got voted fighter of the decade and not your favorite boxer? give pacman some credits dude..your becoming an idiot of being a pacman hater..just like some other flomos and pactards…
I dont know why everyone is up in arms. Everyone needs to chill out. This article makes great points. This is JUST what Mayweather is saying. Pacquiao just kept throwing punches the same way during the whole fight. Instead of doing something that leads clottey a certain way, pacquiao just kept throwing a high volume of punches. Thats Mayweathers point. And I seem to agree with it. Hopefully they will fight, if Mayweather can get by a REAL fighter, IN SSM. (BTW, Mayweather would out class Pacquiao).
You can do all the talking (Mayweather), that’s your trademark! Look on how Pacman demolished every oponent (welterweights) he has on the ring. Boxing fans believe that you are scared enough to face the real man, the PACMAN. Clotty is a nice guy, maybe the reason why he reached 12 rounds of fight. My conclusion, Pacman will demolish his opponent dependent on how much trash talk you have released in public. The more trash talk the lesser rounds of fight. Your fight with Mosley come May 1, is a thing for you to prove who you are. PACMAN is waiting for you and be a MAN not a member of the Commission!
Floyd can say all he wants… but “put up or shut up”!!! Its easy to talk smack from the comfort of your lazy boy, right? He can interpret the fight and be as bias as he wants to but he cant judge Pacquiao’s performances on a little bruising because it didnt even effect his punch rate, speed or power. If Pacquiao showed any signs that Clottey’s punches effected him then I could understand Floyds interpretation, but the fact is Clottey’s punches didnt even dent Pacquiao’s abilities from round 1 to 12! We all know Floyd is the more technically sound fighter by far, so you cant expect Pacquiao to fight like Floyd or have the same game plan that Floyd would have. Pacquaio was being Pacquiao…a banger! and who wouldnt have been exhausted after throwing 1200 punches? Although I agree that Pacquiao did seem to get tired about the 5th round, he did get a strong 2nd wind about the 8th or 9th round and it just picked up from there. Its easy for observers to say what they want about the fight beit Floyd, you or me but the fact is if Manny was as exposed as Floyd says he was then he should have no problems with a Mayweather vs. Pacquiao showdown later in the year! Regardless of any kind of testing!!!
If Clottey had gone all out attack he would have won. Every shot he threw he landed flush. Pacquiao threw 1300 shots and landed nothing. Saying that, you have to throw shots to win and Clottey didnt do enough
@crazy so true
what everyone is forgetting is floyd is the challenger and manny is the champion.
no matter how loud floyd screams that manny needs him. he is the challenger. any other challenger when given a shot at the belt and glory would do anything to make the fight happen.
makes you wonder what floyd is thinking making false accusations, and thus jeopardising the fight entirely. given that for a challenger he gets a %50 cut at the purse, with only his no lose record to bring to the table.
it shouldnt even matter if manny is beefed up. with his great speed and defensive techniques against a one-dimensional small reach beefed manny. whats their to be afraid of?
like i said in the other article
if floyd really wants olympic style testing i reckon he should go and box there.
Why are all these PACMAN haters on this site? I know why, it because when you GOOGLE Mayweather Jr., Pacquiao’s name pops up all over the place. Mayweather is all quiet now, trying to avoid questions about his involvement in the shooting maybe???? Or maybe he is trying to come up with another excuse not to fight Pacquiao. THE MLK OF BOXING HAD A DREAM THAT PACQUIAO IS GOING TO KNOCK HIM OUT. Mayweather better get his head in the game, GRANDPA Mosley is no joke.
mayweather is saying the same stuff ive been saying for months on here !!! ill be glad when floyd beats this clown once and for all.. what will all the pactards say or do ?? pac-mania will be over!! most tards were not even boxing fans b4 pac got popular..wake up pactards !! your boy is so over rated it aint funny !! titles dont mean jack..im the original one that said mayweather could fight pacaiuo 10 times and beat him 10 times !! if pac gets lucky lands a lottery punch ill be the first one on here to give him his due… until then stfu…..
@Fighter: You must train at Mayweather’s gym where one hour is good enough. LOL! I dare you to train with Pacquiao and then say the same thing after.
@Fighter: you are funny considering Mayweather has not fought any one of them yet and Mayweather has been a welterweight longer then Pacquiao. LOL! In four months, Pacquiao has fought two ranked welterweight while Mayweather fought a lightweight. LOL!
Does it really matter what Mayweather says? I’m not a big fan of either Mayweather or Manny, but Mayweather continues to talk smack about how Pacquioa is one dimensional and boring. Then as far as the drug testing goes for Pacquioa, Mayweather says that no one can starts off as an ordinary fighter and then become an extraordinary fighter without the use of PED’s. So which one is it is Pacquioa one dimensional or extraordinary? Maybe Mayweather just doesn’t want to fight Pacquioa? Mayweather should be worried about Mosley, because Mosley is coming to fight and not do a Clottey!
@Fighter good post man and i agree with you!!
Fighter:
I agree with you, and also agree that Manny’s previous matches have been under favorable conditions. But although he has moved up in weight, his punches are just as fast, stronger, and his work rate has hardly diminished. What is the welter average punch rate per round, 50-55? Manny kills that. But you are correct he did fight much more active fighters in the past, and I also remember Marquez striving to make a 3rd fight soon after the second, and Bob Arum stating that Manny is done witht that business…something like that.
Pacman did the best job on Clottey than anyone who has fought him
Mayweather hasnt fought Clottey and he wouldnt do better either
He is such a hype job cant wait till he gets Ko’d
@Fighter
Clottey was ranked #1 on WBO when team Pacquiao choose to fight him. Mosley was the first choice but he was not available.
True boxing fans knows this.
ADE. You make a good point. I think part of the answer is, that as you move up in weight, two things happen.
1. you lose speed (if you move up quickly)
2. the frequency at which you punched at a lighter weight, diminishes, as you now carry more muscle, or fat, or whatever knid of weight.
The PARTICULAR cherry picked fighters that Manny has CHOSEN to fight, hit with one or two shots, and admire their work, as apposed to continuing with the pressure. Look at those 4 fights again, and notice the workrate of the two smaller guys (Morales/JMM) and Cotto/Clottey. The smaller guys were way too busy for Manny. Somebody who is comfy at their wieght has a better shot. Mosley, Mayweather, Williams, Martinez, Berto, Gamboa, Cloazzo, and others are guys who are very buisy, and I suspect that’s the reason Manny avoids them, as he turned down fights with two of them already.
@bigpops. I agree with you. I am disgusted with Manny AND Floyd, as they are both the catalyst behind the fight falling apart. I also agree that it is silly for Floyd to make any arguement against Manny, no matter how accurate, if he will not drop the PED thing. But if you get over your anger management issues for a minute, cooler heads will prevail. The fact is, that, even though Floyd brought it up, (and he should have, but not carried it so far) MANNY was the one who turned down the fight, not Floyd. In fact, Manny turned down the recent requests of Floyd AND Mosley. That’s a true champion? A…”true champion” is somebody who claims to be affraid of needles, but is tatted up, and gave blood24 days before this fight, and 14 days before the Hatton fight?
You know, I’m trying to keep it civil, but as I go on, I get more irritated. People like you are not boxing fans, you’re a Boxer’s fan. To come out and say some obvious biased crap, like “the days of true champion fighting any opponent will perish with Manny” is absolute garbage. There are plenty of VERY talented (more talented than Manny) fighters out there. Fighters that Manny could be fighting mind you. Clottey is garbage. We knew this b4 the fight, we know it now. Manny could have chosen to fight Mosley, Gamboa, Williams, Colazzo, Berto, Martinez,, or may of the other FAST, talented guys in or around WW. But he chose a bum, and you call that “champion fighting”? Get the hell outta here man. Go to the pottery blog or some sh/t man, you don’t belong here. We need more honest debateable comentary on the sport. educated arguments. educated with regard to this sport. if you have no education in it, than don’t type. I’t's fine to favor a perticular boxer, but to be unable to give comentary on something without expressing your undying love for somebody is just strange and unusual.
@ADE,
The obvious answer is: BEFORE NOW
Roach and his team is successful on improving Pacquiao. Through hard training, proper nutrition(which Pacquiao lack so much while growing up on a very poor condition), and studying and implementing various boxing skills and techniques, Pacquiao is now what he is. And the worst is some say he is not yet on his peak. Everytime pacquiao fights he has one or two additional new skill.
Pac is dynamic when it comes to offense, but the truth is he has very little head movement and gets hit frequently. But it is not an issue, because oddly enough, he never seems to get faded by these punches. Against Cotto and Clottey I seen Pac’s head bounce back numerous times, but with no real effect. I question how could a man be bothered by Morales’ punches, and staggered in the second Marquez fight, but take these punches at welter with EASE.
It is truly amazing that Mayweather and others state all of these reasons why he can beat Manny. If he believes that Manny has exposed himself although he won nearly every round, why not fight him. Why continue to try and convince yourself and the public verbally that you can win. Just stick to the PED accusation. Clottey’s style made the fight boring not Manny’s. There is no need to state he has exposed himself as one dimensional but you are still unwilling to fight him under current testing policies. But you believe you can beat him. Come on! The days of the true champion fighting any opponent will perish with Manny
Very interesting article. Some things I agreed, and some were a little far fetched.
Floyd is oversensationalizing himself by saying you’ll see nonstop action for 30 minutes in one of his fights. It might be more accurate to say, you’ll see nonstop technical boxing display, but action is a bit inacurate..AT TIMES. Floyd’s defense, though unparalleled, can be boring to watch…AT TIMES.
However, his description of Manny’s being exposed by Clottey is very accurate in my opinion (And what I said yesterday as well). This was a boring fight, but not because Manny had a low workrate, obviously. The man threw 1200 punches. It was boring because Clottey’s defense is boring, and ineffective with regards to scoring. If there’s no momentus event in a fight, the judges will go to the next criteria, which is ring generalship, or basically, whoever looks buisier. I think Manny was the buisier fighter, but his approach was ineffective with regards to getting through to Clottey with clean shots. I will say his body work surprised me. I previously said he was a head hunter, and will admitt to being wrong about that in this fight. But still, had Clottey benn a bit more buisy, and taken more chances, I beleive it would have been a close fight. Clottey landed viscious, clean head shots on Manny, where his head was rocked backward. I noticed the straight right of Clottey was one of them. This is one of the effective punches of Mayweather. The lead right cross. The way he sets it up, it does’nt matter if you study him all day on tape, it’s very hard to defend, and if Manny could’nt stop it against a slower, far less technical Clottey, then he will absolutely not be able to cope with Mayweather.
Wow! “ONE-Dimensional”, “Amateur”..that’s what PBF is saying regarding Pacquiao. And Floyd is the “true pound for pound”.
To all Mayweather fans: Then encourage your idol to step up in the ring and fight pacman! Your idol is contradicting his statements for he said before that pacman is “extra-ordinary” that’s why he wanted him to take a random blood test. You all still don’t get it. Your idol is either scared or mentally abnormal. And all who believe on him are also like him. I almost believed on floyd but now I realized he is a joke. And I came into conclusion that everyone who believes on him are also mentally ill.
Analysis: Clottey did the right thing to do. Everytime he tried to open up and punch Paquiao, Pacquiao came back and throw even more punches and Clottey got hit. He is too scared to make risks. At least he preserved his reputation of 0 KO. Pacquiao also did what he needs to do. Its a great fight.
@Nigel: Keep dreaming!!!! Mayweather will run all night long like the coward he is. 100 punches per round, even getting hit in the arms will eventually hurt. Help Mayweather find his balls and get him in the ring. I want to see this fight too.
Here we go again, typical Pacquiao fans “let your fists do the talking” that’s all we hear he should take the test & make the fight happen, Mayweather will school Pacquiao, Don’t get me wrong Pacquiao is good but Mayweather is great, Why does everyone think that this performance of Pacquiao vs Clottey was so great he didn’t do anything he beat him but it was not impressive, if this fight is anything to go by Mayweather should beat Pacquiao easily, Pacquiao always ask the fighter in front of him to slug it out so that his opponent is open for an attack, Mayweather is alot smarter that all his previous opponents!! I cant wait for the fight to happen just to shut the Pacquiao fans up!!! Mayweather is the bests pound for pound fighter in the world!!!
mr mayweather sir. you are afraid of pacquiao. pacquiao will beat you with 1 dimention. you better bring a bed with 3 dimentions after taking that courage pill when you face a 1 dimention pacquiao. dont bring your your pillow hands with you and leave your trainers home, just get some good sneakers and put a bicycle in your corner. believe me, you’ll need it.
Sir, take some courage pill and stop talking. are you going to buy that fight against mosley. the same way you bought that fight for berto to withdraw. too bad, pacquiao cannot be bought. he got more money than you. hes got more fans than you”ll ever have. he’s got more friends more belt more much faster more interviews more love. there is no comparison. so next time do not compare, ok kompare? have a nice day and take your kids to the zoo and maybe youll find a new trainer.
UNLIKE PAC – he’s just silent and no trash talk. FLOYD – trash talk here and there.. —- that’s the main difference here!! PACMAN once said in an interview – “Let your fists do the talking” which is absolutely the right thing to say.
mayweather is just ducking pacquaio because hes on top of his game right now … hes scared that hes the 1 that gets exposed in the ring!!
Let us be fair. There is a lot of truth from the article. I can’t see what is arguable from column. Like Floyd or not you got to be saying….quite true isn’t it?
Don’t get me wrong. Should the fight be arranged between Pacquiao and Mayweather, it may go either way. I maybe disappointed with both camps when the fight did not go through. It’s just that it’s the Mayweathers making accusations with no proof at all, which to me, is way below the belt. That’s their camps reason for insisting on something that is not normally needed, and that maybe Pacquiao’s camp’s reason for looking for other opponents other than Floyd.
But just the same, I still wish the fight will eventually be arranged, so as to get the chance to see the loudmouth get his gloves touch the canvass. Sorry, Floyd, it’s your mouth I want to see bleed. And with the fighters around, it so happened that Pacquiao is the opponent most likely to do that to you…
By the way, is there any update on the slander charges against the “worried” Mayweathers?
@ dayammmm
Have you seen floyd being interviewed during the Nba All-Star Weekend? The poor boy keeps on explaining his side of the story about the failed negotiations of the fight between himself and Mayweather. Man, the way he explained things is like a record, a broken record… He’s talking too much about it, that instead of sounding consistent, he sounds more like justifying his demands for something that is not really needed at all, and the bigmouth is using the unproven drug allegiations as an excuses for demanding for soemthing unnecessary. I tell you, man, he sound more worried than reasonable… Oh, Floyd… you were one teardrop shy of being a crybaby…
@1234
The way i veiwed the fight he was kinda one dimensional…and then saying he wanted Money May after the fight?? pleeeaaassseeeee…like you said talk is cheap, but in pacs case talk is whats gonna cost him the most….come fight night
your right , floyd time will come as all fighters and i can see him not being humble about it as pac, i just hope when he does takes that lost he does not end up like roy jones lol
Hell-stupid por-Mayweather fans! Whyat’s with the the drug allegations if Pacquiao is indeed one-dimensional, not so strong and not so-skilled?
The truth is, Pacquiao can potentially beat Floyd. And should Pacquiao face him in the same condition he’s in when he faced Clottey, only way for floyd to win is through the scorecards, not via knockout.
blah blah blah! let the welterweight defeat a real welterweight before trash talking against a midget dominating a welterweight.
@shanko: there’s no absolute in this life.. if the fight happens, pacman may win or lose.. pacman may lose against floydie boy but one thing is certain, he will bring his A-game and leave it all inside the ring.. and be humble enough to admit defeat.. he have been there before.. but with floydie, that’s an entirely different animal.. if he lose in the fight i’m sure his huge ego and whole psyche would take such a hit that things may become too much to handle for him.. he may unravel completely..
1234 YOU ARE RIGHT TALK IS CHEAP. MANNY SHOULD STEP UP TAKE THE TEST AND PROVE THAT HE IS CLEAN
Man! Who wrote this stuff? Sounds like a die-hard Mayweather fan…
anybody heard any news about the olympic style drug testing done on mosley-may? any news at all? fight’s only 1 1/2 month away.. where’s the drug testing?
I believe Floyd should just shut his mouth and fight PACMAN. He’s just too noisy as if his mouth is like the ass of a chicken when blown. If he thinks PACMAN is a one dimensional fighter then he should push the fight with PAC period. PACMAN is one example of an ideal fighter. NO TRASH TALK and GRACIOUS in victory. Yeah and we should not forget FLOYD had cheated MARQUEZ in the weighing scale.
so step in the ring and prove he is one dimensional….talk is cheap
Just like in justice system, you can’t just implement something you just thought of yesterday. He should speak to the world boxing organization that from now on, let’s have an Olympic style drug testing.. They have to review it and make a decision. It’s a good thing anyway. What’s really unfair is if the fans will never get to see the fight they wanted to see, that will probe who is best between the two just because they can’t agree with the blood testing. We’re talking about history in the making here. This comes once in a lifetime and I’m afraid we might not see a fight like this again.. Pacman vs Floyd.. that’s an amazing fight for sure….
Roach/Arum hand picked what’s there.. until now. They hand pick Mayweather right? Cotto right? Hatton, Dela Hoya, and some of them are fighters that Mayweather avoided. They hand picked what’s out there and accepted the challenges. Mayweather wanted to change the rules all of the sudden and y now? He should have done that long time ago but why with Manny whom the world wants to see.. Why not cut the crap and just fight treat it like his very first fight? They both fought guys who probably used drugs who knows.
the very bad news is Mayweather will not let go of the random blood test. he also claims the bigger piece of the pie.
so who is to blame if Pacquiao-Mayweather never occur? BOTH!
can Pacquiao beat Mayweather? or vice versa? we can only achieve the answer if they fight in the ring.
Pacquiao, Roach and Arum said they wanted the Pacquiao-Mayweather to happen. the random blood testing is the only issue that is preventing it.
May i remind you that Arum/Roached have been hand picking fighters with the same fighting style and Manny ALWAYS having advantages, such as weight and fighters having just loss!!!
They are both the best in the game that’s why people wants to see them fight to find out who really is the best. But let me ask you mr.clean. what if all boxers start to pick fights and fight only the guys they know they can beat and avoid the guys who they think can beat them.. what if everybody makes their own excuses.. do u think it’s fair? no. do you think what mayweather has done in the past is fair? It’s easy to pick your fights and be undefeated.. but to probe your a great fighter is another thing.
mr.gio or to mr.clean. read my post, there’s no hate there sis. just stating the facts. do ur homework first. I like mayweather too he’s got skills. just saying the fact that packy never asked anyone anything and he just fought anyone presented to him. mayweather has a great excuse.. i said great (not stupid excuse) that made u think he’s got a point. pacman probably fought a bunch of guys who used steriods and stuff and those guys probably hurt him as well.. it’s all fair. drug testing is not required so y change the game when you’re facing the greatest pound4pound king?
I read all post, NOT ONE PERSON GIVE AT LEAST 2 REASON WHY MANNY WOULD BEAT FLOYD, all i`m reading is Floyd is this, Floyd is that!!! let`s talk boxing people >> looking at Manny performance, what in that fight would have beaten Floyd!!??????
And Floyd + Promotion would have never created a Floyd vs Clottey fight, their fighting style don`t tango! so pls act like you know about boxing, thank you!!
@mr. king shut up you retard. Pac denied blood testing, mayweather accepted 10 million dollar penalty for comin in overweight. Who denied? who accepted? negotiations must be fair for both. If clottey can hit pac like that, what do you think mayweather is going to do to him? Personally, i think blood testing is fair. We have had so many boxers on steroids gettin wins over good fighters unfairly. Mosley, Vargas, Toney, and other athletes of other sports like Bonds, Clemens, this one runner that I can remember the name of. But yeah, Im tired of cheaters. Lets expose whos clean and whos just building a fake legacy. I see nothing wrong with that.
Personally I dont like pac nor mayweather. But mayweather is making the most sense with tha blood testing. The only consolation I get is that one of them will get beaten up when they do meet. All you pac and mayweather fans just get over the hate, look at the facts and just shut up until they actually make the fight happen. peace
What a pathetically sad, bitter & twisted man Floyd Mayweather is.
Manny fought the greatest fighters presented to him who ever they are.. with no question asked other than “Can I sing before the fight? and sing again after the fight?” Ali did the same thing (not the sing part). All the great fighters of World Of Boxing did the same thing.. XXXXXcept for the Business Entrepreneur Floydie.. I repeat .. except for floydie.. Who come up with a latest inventions and strategies and the greatest excuses that made u think…”he’s got a point”…. you’re easy to be fooled by Floydie. He yaps at you and he can get your gf that quick!!
@Bangus Banger
Yes, the blood test were in THE ORIGINAL contract. Pac Man originally agreed. ARUM screwed us out of that fight. Not Floyd, not Manny, ARUM. When people accept that then we can have meaningful discussion.
@wowzabean
Spot on. I think Mayweather realizes that Pac Man is a dangerous opponent. I think Floyd feels he would win, but anyone would have apprehension. Same for Manny. Anyone who thinks either of them would walk over the other is kidding themselves. Anyone who thinks they do not want to fight each other is kidding themselves. They BOTH know that their legacy is somewhat tied to each other.
Truth about ShineMostly and Floydie Exposed!!!
Listen to this…. (tapped conversation)
ShineMostly:
Listen modapucka. I don’t care if you beat me but i gotta retire with a big moneyweather (means retirement money). I don’t want pacman to send me to retirement plan. It’s better if its you buddy.
Moneyweather:
Alright aright now we talking business… this is what money is all about. Well DeloHeyya is thinking maybe i should make more money by picking fights… can’t fight pacman yet, maybe when pacman turned 40 or so. So I’m thinking you and I can make money just like what you said on your TV interview…
ShineMOstly:
That’s the message I was saying brotha.. that’s it. I gotta get out with my pockets full of dough man. We can both make money. I’m glad you got my message..
Moneyweather:
Well u know. If it’s business I’m down…. i don’t care if you we’re taking steriods before.. doesn’t matter as long as I ammm… I amm..
ShineMostly:
Win? yean modapucka.. u will win this fight. But we gotta be carefull doug. I don’t want to be obvious like what Clottey did. I want to throw some punchess too.. just curious will you ever fight Manny?
Moneyweather:
Nah man.. I got a good strategy and great excuse. It will never happen.. I want to maintain “Undefeated” that says a lot!!! Maybe not the “Greatest fight of all time” but “Undefeated” hell yea.
Please, Mayweather was ready to fight, the guy accepted all conditions presented to him.
It wasn’t Floyd that walk away from the negotiation table.
It wasn’t Floyd that had a laundry list of demands in order to make the fight happen.
It wasn’t Floyd that backtracked on his stance for drug testing.
Even to this day, Floyd’s story hasn’t changed. He’s been consistent throughout the negotiatons.
Manny’s story? How many times has that changed?
1. Needles
2. Superstitious
3. Needs 5 days
4. Needs 30 days
5. Needs 24 days
6. Floyd’s bigger than me.
7. (TBA)
8. (TBA)
9. (TBA)
Haha. Keep talking Floyd. If the fight does happen and all this talk just to get under Pacquiao’s skin is one big mistake. Not everyone is the same. Floyd needs to learn something about the Filipino culture before he continues on this path of playing mind games.
money,
It’ll be a sellout. It’s hard to because nobody can afford those damn ticket prices, that’s why I think stadium fights should be the future. That way the real fight fans can watch it live.
Everyone else:
Look, nobody is afraid of anyone. That being said if you don’t think Floyd is at least a little apprehensive about fighting Pacquiao, the proofs in the pudding. I don’t think he fears him, or even fears losing, I just think he doesn’t want to get hurt.
Pacquiao/Mayweather isn’t a walk over for EITHER fighter. If you think it is, then congratulations save yourself $50-60 bucks and don’t buy the fight. Mosley will be a good indication of the potential damage Pac can do to Mayweather. It’s just a matter of do we see the SSM from the Margacheato fight? Or the SSM that got rocked by Winky Wright and Forest? I’d put money on the later, just because Cheato’s head wasn’t in the game.
Either way, Floyd has some gusto to talk like this, he should be looking ahead to the fighter in front of him. Shane is not Clottey, and I think SSM has a personal vendetta against Floyd. Whether that will work with or against him is yet to be seen.
Watch all Floydie’s interview. He can come up with the greatest excuses (“instantly” like the latest Quadcore processors now-a-days) that will shut your mouth off and will make you say damn I will never win argument with this guy.. Watch the rest of the fighter’s interview (other boxers) all you will hear from them is… “Yes i would like that fight. Looking forward to it..” no blahblah! Floyd perfected a formula called Good Skills + Business Strategy = Win & Money. You’ll learn that only at Floyd Online University (for boxers) He’s got a book called “Business Strategy in Boxing” best seller for Moneyweather fans.. He’s got a poll called “Pick Fights of the Day” There’s no other good fighter to put in front of pacman other than Floydie.. So Floydie let’s probe your students who da bestest!! cut d crap wil ya?
Mayweather is scared of Manny Pacquiao plain and simple. He knows all of the guys that Pacquiao has fought and destroyed punch harder than him. He also knows that those fighters didn’t do much to phase Pacquiao. And that scares the hell out of Mayweather. As good a counter puncher Mayweather may be, he knows that that won’t work or do anything to Pacquiao. Cause to be honest, Mayweather only has one good thing and that is his defense. Mayweather’s speed won’t matter against Pacquiao believe me. Mayweather can speed counter punch but Mayweather doesn’t have power so that won’t do anything to Pacquiao and Mayweather knows that. Mayweather just retire and never come back because boxing doesn’t really need you anymore.
i agree to to haffey…that’s right…
Mayweather is really something. Something ignorant. If he says that Pacman is an easy fight and one dimensional, then why not just fight him without asking him to take all those blood tests? I think his comment that Pacman went from an ordinary fighter to an extraordinary fighter is really a compliment. Mayweather is really really scared to fight Pacman but now his mistake of running away from Pacman got him into a fight with another boxer who I believe could destroy him. I honestly believe that Mosley will win against Mayweather IF the fight isn’t staged in favor of Mayweather. But I also believe that it could be staged the opposite way favoring Mosley just so that Mayweather would get Pacquiao of his back. I don’t know about you but I actually feel that maybe Mayweather isn’t scared to lose that perfect record in general but maybe he is afraid to lose that perfect record to a small asian guy. I think he feels like he is the bigger guy and maybe he feels that if he looses to Pacquiao, then it will be embarrassing for him cause he is black and bigger than Pacquiao. Since he is always hating on the Philippines then I might be correct on this assumption. Because Mosley will beat the crap out of him but Mosley is big and black also so that means it won’t be that bad if he losses to Mosley. I don’t know…I might have stumbled on to the truth behind Mayweather. Mayweather is a very prideful guy so maybe that is the REAL reason he avoids fighting Pacquiao at all costs. Mayweather if you read this and I’m correct, I say just fight Pacquiao if you can get through Mosley. Give us boxing fans what we all want to see!
Mayweather vs Clottey would produce 30 shots fired per round with about less that 5 connecting if Clottey goes on that shell defense. How can Mayweather pass throught that if he’s just throwing limited amount of punches himself. Do the math. That’s the most boring fight you’ll ever gonna see ever.
And this “jhon” doesn’t know that Floyd never brought this blood test in the beginning stage of negotiations. When Floyd said the month of March for a fight and Floyd thought Manny’s camp will say no because its too early after the Cotto fight.
Then Floyd got trapped because Manny said yes. Then Floyd started to look for ways to exit. Floyd used alot of insults. And was still looking for a way out. Floyd was very concern of this fight, if he wasn’t then he shouldn’t become the judge, jury, and boxing commission big boss at the same time.
1. Manny fightn barrera 3 times would be like Tyson fighting spinks 3 times (Big Name, washed up)
2. Manny beating ODLH, Hatton would be like Lennox Lewis fighting Bruce Seldon and Frank Bruno after Mike Tyson had knocked they ass out.(pointless, they were done. once well known but werent the same fighters)
3.Manny fighting Cotto and Clottey back to back would be like Lennox Lewis beating George Foreman and then fighting Micheal Moorer back to after Foreman had just beat his ass.
Whats so impressive about this? Nothing…. Like i said Manny IMO is fighting Washed Big Names or someone that he knows damn well he can beat. Or maybe Freddie “the dope coach” Roach and Bob Arum whos brainwashing the kid, but whatever the case is; he hasnt and WILL NOT fight anyone with speed, footwork, etc… His next fight will be Margarito, mark my words. another flat footed, slow, easy to hit BUM!
If Manny is just one dimensional then why not fight him.
Man didn’t floyd say he doesn’t watch film on opponents cause he’s soooooo good and also didn’t pacquiao meantion he was coming into that fight with a different game plan suited to go at clottey; and look it landed him a “w” so floyd put up or shut up less we forget you still have mosley to face, who is old but is still a big threat!
You people are kidding yourselves if you think Pacquiao can beat Floyd. People get mad cause Floyd says what others wont say. Pacquiao IS very much so one dimensional. If and I do mean IF Pacquiao ever fights Mayweather, Mosley, Bradley, Berto, etc.. He will get his ass kicked. Period! But, I guarantee his next fight will be Margarito. Another BUM! Arum will announce the deal and then say everyone else is afraid of Pacquiclown! But i hope he gets in the ring with mayweather. So, he can get his ass beat!
This Pac-May fight will never happen. Floyd will come out with another stupid demand after watching Pac destroyed Clottey. A 5’5 midget made a gorilla so damn scared to come out and fight and made him hiding in his turtle shell till the last round…. Believe that.
Roach said before the fight that Manny was going to throw a ton of punches and he did. I honestly think Roach got this one wrong. Yes, Manny won the fight but he landed an awfully low percentage and just threw them all night long. It made Manny look like less of a boxer, when he was just sticking to the game plan.
It was just a weird fight all the way around. Manny kept throwing and throwing and tiring and tiring, yet he was hitting about 30% of his shots. In the mean time, Clottey just kept blocking and blocking and throwing a punch every once in awhile, yet they connected. It is just hard to understand what he was thinking.
The fact of the matter is that Manny won, so in the end, whether it was pretty or not, he won. End of story.
mayweather couldnt even sell out an 18,000 person arena when he was fighting a legend like marquez. Hows he going to say he is a bigger draw?
walk the walk don’t talk the talk S2PID!!!!!
Marquez exposed Pacman, therefore, Oscar hired his trainer to help him defeat Manny. We all know what happened there. Morales exposed Pacman, therefore, Diaz, Barrera, and Solis tried to outbox him. We all know what happened there. Mayweather Sr. is the best trainer in the world because his son is the number one fighter in the world. Mayweather Sr. called Manny a mule. I guess a mule is worth more than a stallion.
Now, Clottey exposes Manny. Clottey landed shots on Manny. I think Cotto exposed Manny before Clottey. Cotto hit Manny with many jabs, right hands, and left hooks. Manny looked beat up. Well, we all know what happened in that fight.
Clottey decided to pick and choose his shots after what Manny did to Cotto. Clottey was dropped by Cotto and by the look on his face, wasn’t very happy about it. Now, if Cotto can land shots on him while they exchanged shots, imagine what Manny would’ve done. Joshua is not dumb. He knew what Manny could’ve done if he put his arms down for too long.
The thing that seperates Manny and Floyd is that Manny can take a punch. Manny has been hit and knows what it’s like to be hit. He can get hit and continue to throw over 100 punches a round. Now, if Marquez can land clean hits on Mayweather without counterpunching, imagine what Manny can land. Manny is stronger and quicker than Marquez. And now, Manny is even bigger and just as quick. That’s why Mayweather would rather fight Mosley. He feels that if he can take Mosley’s shots, he’ll be able to take Pacquiao’s punches. Mayweather is basing his decision on how both men did against Cotto. That’s why he chose Mosley first. Mayweather Jr. may be a chicken, but he’s the smartest chicken I know.
haha this is ridiculous, floyd is just ruining and ruining his career more and more by continuing to talk with nothing to back him up. first of all I thought this was america? the steroid opinion is just his opinion and all his fans eat it up but aren’t you always innocent until proven guilty? plus enough of this blah blah blah talk about Floyds defense, yes he’s good but come on now. any TRUE boxing fan can see it’s tougher to break Clotteys defense when his strong arms are always blocking his face. seriously, did anybody see how Pac threw a right hook and then a right upper cut half a second after? this is pure boxing at its best and its a shame how there’s so many disrespect. any idiot who wants to debate please feel free to email me.
@anun
Well said…it hurts like PacMan punch!
Imagine if it was floyd fighting against clottey…
FLOYD waving, CLOTTEY standing. it’s like watching to clowns
performing on top of a boxing ring. no one’s beat up..
two cowards doing their best act… bwahahahaha……
then floydy will brag that his face still looks PRETTY, oh BOY…
then people will change the title from “THE EVENT”, change
T to S “SHE EVENS”, looks 2 sissies fighting to me… lol
I just wondering if clottey is fighting Floyd last weekend insted of pacman… What ya’ll think happend???
OK FLoyd, if it’s like you say then stop tying your panties into a knot over trying to introduce the AMATEUR testing standards, follow the PROFESSIONAL RULES like everybody else.
Next STFU walk into the ring with Pac and DO AS YOU SAID.
and I’ll pay to watch
I don´t think anyone can say with any certainity if Floyd or Pac are scared, knowing the personalities I would say Pac is a warrior, the guy fights anyone, anywhere, he mixes it up, takes punches, exchanges with you, asks for more and normally comes out on top. I can respect that as a boxing fan. Personally I don´t like Mayweathers style but I can´t deny it wins him fights based on his natural ability, fun to watch, no but we must give credit where credit is due.
The reality is that boxing is like any other sport, a business and there are a lot of thing going on behind the scenes that we boxing fans do not and will not ever see or know. Should have the fight happened, absolutely, why did it not, only God knows but why make that fight at the beginning of the year when you can make it at the end of 2010 with even more build up and more money on the line, that is if mayweather can get past mosley. it´s a business, don´t ever forget that. Its not 2 guys in a parking lot going toe to toe. They have managers and promoters and a lot of crap goes on that we don´t see
LOL
Again Mayweather plays the race card. What would he have done against Clottey to make the fight “more exciting”? Seeing how May counters and Clottey threw like 30 punches a round there would have been nothing happening. Give Pacquiao credit for at least going for the KO.
If he’s so one dimensional why not fight him? I don’t get it, there he goes again. He’s easy. Then “you don’t go from being ordinary to EXTRAordinary.” But he’s easy. Then fight him! Mayweather claiming he’ll make an exciting fight. Now that, that my friends, takes the cake.
i am a real boxing watcher since the time of flash Elorde, saying that floyd is afraid of pacquiao, in my opinion Pacquiao is the one who is afraid, thats why he has so many excuse blaming it the other way, and dont say i am not a pilipino, i seen when the OXO and bahala na gang started so keep your f ucking mouth shut.
Stop demanding then… Just fight tha little guy.. N u c how manny dimension he has… (1230)
lol @ Esteban Garduno
keep on listening to Floyd. keep on believing him. keep on sucking his balls too.
lol @ Floyd Mayweather
“That’s the difference between an amateur and a true pound for pound boxer.”
look at the P4P list: Manny is number one, you are number two.
“At least when you watch Floyd Mayweather you know you’ll be seeing non-stop action for 30 minutes straight…”
non-stop action? seriously??? ha ha!
“Let’s not forget who generated a revenue of 2.5 million dollars in one fight alone.”
yeah right. keep on bragging yourself and degrade others.
Do I sense that this writer and Floyd have thing in common? It’s called envy. Ha ha ha.
For Manny, slugging it out and exchanging is the way of his style of fighting. This is his first fight that there was no exchange or slugging it out, he’s disappointed. Manny mentioned before saying “if you knock me out then knock me out and hit me hard” because if I hit you, I’ll do the same, I’ll knock you out”. Other boxers know this, including Clottey. Now Floyd watched the fight, can he hurt Manny? Because if they do fight, and they exchange or slug it out Manny will hurt Floyd and knock him out.
relax guys this is just a hype job for his upcoming fight and possible pacquiao fight.
defence fighting can win when u make ur oponent miss and u counter all night.
From now on I will coin you Floyd May”VADER” for being the Lord
of the Dark Side.
Emmanuel Pacquiao is the Angel St. Michael who is going to slay the hell out of you.
Manny Pacquiao, may the force be with you.
He he he. Too bad it ain’t Pacquio who’ll give the first lost to mayweather. It’s no fun when it’s black vs black.
Defensive fighting isn’t going to win against Manny. He’ll punch your arms all night and score with the judges.
He was only exposed in the Clottey fight because his strategy was Punch Overload™ so that Clottey had no choice but to hide behind his gloves and watch the fight slip away.
If Mayweather tries that, same problem. And let’s wait until the end of the Mosley fight to judge Mayweather’s face being busted up.
It’s also funny that, when Floyd wants to justify his reasoning for asking Manny to be tested he says… “He used to be an ordinary fighter, now he’s an EXTRA-ordinary fighter.”
I don’t know which we should believe?
Manny showed he can take a punch, so what if he gets bruised? He has the high asian cheekbones and is always prone to swelling and cuts. If you want to get an edge on Manny, then ask him to draw blood, and then head butt him so he’s cut and bleeds. He doesn’t do well with blood. Watch the Morales I fight again if you don’t believe me.
Other than that, Floyd better have a great game plan ready if he wants to be the effective aggressor against Manny this Fall.
That is, if he can outpoint Mosley without getting caught with something troublesome.
…ryan
Kari what fight were you watching. Marquez landed only 69, 69 punches the entire fight. How is that hitting someone the whole fight? please explain!
Yeah, one-dimensional, suuuuure. That’s exactly the word Badweather used. Hello, are you him?
Floyd’s comments is typical of someone who needs to minimize his opponent without basis in order to promote himself. He can easily do better by simply accepting Pacquiao’s challenge to fight. Come on, Floyd, if you real want to fight, you do your job and let the boxing commission dictate the terms of the fight. Empty talk leads to nowhere.
Clottey never had the chance to retaliate. Look back at the fights Clottey fought against Judah and Cotto. Clottey threw punches back. Against Manny, Clottey threw few punches at the early rounds. But the late rounds Clottey started to connect but not much power,Manny was actually saying “hit me what you got”.
No way did Clottey hurt Manny at the first 8 rounds when he was still fresh. Clottey got punches in at the later rounds because Manny wanted to test Clottey’s power or whatever is left of his power.
In all Manny’s fights he always dare his opponents to slug it out to test his opponents punches. Just because he got hit by Clottey doesn’t mean he’s exposed. On the contrary his opponent got exposed. Manny can take a punch and Clottey knew it. And now Floyd knows. So Floyd is using a reverse psychology tactic. Floyd now is thinking can he hurt Manny?
If this the case, there’s no reason for mayweather to mandate the blood test for pacquiao, he’s just 1 dimensional fighter that he can easily beat.
look who’s talking! Mayweather said that Pacquiao the fans a boring fight unlike if you watch Mayweather, he’ll give you 30 minutes of non-stop action. What a big liar Mayweather is! Everyone knows that his fights are boring because he keeps covering and running, just like a Clottey but even worse because at least Clottey doesn’t run. I’ll bet that if you Match Mayweather against Clottey, the fans will just fall asleep because both of them will be content to just cover up and not throw any punch hahahaha!
Mayweather is again belittling people from the Philippines by saying that Pacquiao belongs to an ethnic minority and from the Philippines that’s why he is special. For the information of Mr. Mayweather, most Filipinos are better educated and more well-mannered than he is.
Pac exposed wins all 12 rounds
this writer is simply trying to stoke the fire. he knows he has nothing new to tell.
if you review the mayweather-marquez fight, even a bloated and sluggish marquez could hit money may several times. imagine if it was pacquiao with the speed and power behind those punches. money may will be knocked down in the first round.
i tell you, if money may suddenly had the balls to fight pacquiao, he will be covering up worse than clottey.
If yall knew anything about boxing yall would know that he is indeed one dimensional. All he does ids throw a lot of punches, he just looked good against a very very very overated fighter. on the other hand when clottey did puinch he was landed shot and clottey is very very very slow, so just think about what mayweather will do to him. Clottey can cover up pretty good but he has no footwrk and that is why Manny was able to thrwo 1231 punches. clottey is so much of a bum he let Manny throw both hands at the same time and wasnt able to counter him pathetic. had that been floyd he wouldve gotten an uppercut to the chin!
So what are you afraid of Floyd?
Here are the reasons why you should fight Pacquiao.
From your own words.
1. Pacquiao is one dimensional.
2. Pacquiao is open to counterpunch.
3. Pacquiao is small.
4. Pacquiao has no skill.
5. Pacquiao is poor, Floyd is rich.
6. Pacquiao is making a mistake in fighting you.
7. Pacquiao is an easy fight.
If you really want to fight a guy, why should you attempt to
scare him…so that he backs-out and walk away…I suspect the scare tactics are for the benefit of Floyd, so that Pacquiao
does not destroy him…All this talks are for Floyd’s brain so that his fans do not abandon him…deep inside, his fans are boxing fans and the truth is they can recognize who is really the best. Floyd’s hold on his fans is weak…as weak as his claim…and as weak as his LIES…Lies…lies
Imagine if it was floyd fighting against clottey…
FLOYD waving, CLOTTEY standing. it’s like watching to clowns
performing on top of a boxing ring. no one’s beat up..
two cowards doing their best act… bwahahahaha……
then floydy will brag that his face still looks PRETTY, oh BOY…
then people will change the title from “THE EVENT”, change
T to S “SHE EVENS”, looks 2 sissies fighting to me… lol
Mayweather is right on this one…Pac is a one-dimensional fighter that would have been exposed by Mosley, Mayweather, Berto or any other African American fighter. Pac’s style suits any fighter with little to no head movement, no “Juke” in body movement. Clottey had the perfect defense that often frustrated Pac, that’s why he did the head-clap in the 9th round.
Pac has major power that could put a heavy weight on his Ass if he can connect, but any boxer with a technically sound boxing skills, makes Pac look basic. This will surely happen sometime this year and the pac fans will soon disappear. I had front row seats at the fight.
Clottey only needed 20+ more punches per round to pull off an upset of a lifetime.
mayweather is a joke. The reason why manny’s face is a little swelled up is because he’s a fighter. And that’s what happens in a fight. And that’s what happens when you fight tough guys. Sometimes you get hit. But Manny can take a punch and he can dish it out. Manny has a strong chin and he’s relentless. He has speed, power, accuracy and fast footwork. And lets face it…he’s also a humble and professional. That’s why he has more endorsements than mayweather. mayweather has a perfect record because he chooses easy fights. He never takes a risk. He knows in his heart that Manny is a better fighter than he will ever be…that’s why mayweather always goes out of his way to talk negative about Manny…..
wow look at that i got it right all along, so its you garduno.
congratulations you beat the other members of the IDIOT brigade.
mind you i posted this on one of your blogs,
i post it here it again for you to enjoy..
“hey garduno im giving you a headsup, your daddy money mayweather made some IDITIOC (just like your blogs) comments on some website, you better pick it up right away or your girlfriends lahr, williams, fugate will beat you to it. GO GO !!!…idiot”
i getting good at this .. haha
WTF! another pendejo agreeing with mayweather, what the hell did you idiots watch, when have you seen may throw 1200 punches. Instead of running and claiming its defensive stadagy. Manny through 1200 and came forward and boxed the way real champs do. Pinche pendejos
Imagine if it was floyd fighting against clottey…
FLOYD waving, CLOTTEY standing. it’s like watching to clowns
performing on top of a boxing ring. no one’s beat up..
two cowards doing their best act… bwahahahaha……
then floydy will brag that his face still looks PRETTY, oh BOY…
then people will change the title from “THE EVENT”, change
T to S “SHE EVENS”, looks 2 sissies fighting to me… lol
hey please wake mr, mayweather.
ha ha ha ha hey bro wake up…..if you are 100% better, paqcquiao is 200% better than you…… ha ha ha wake bro ha ha ha