Klitschko to retire, not before retiring Haye
March 5th, 2010
By Tj Amin: Many boxing fans are hotly anticipating a clash between David haye and Vitali Klitschko, this defiantly looks like a fight that will go ahead some time later this year providing contractual issues can be sorted out. Both fighters have publicly said they are willing to fight each other and the trash talking has already begun. David Haye’s charisma, speed and power has injected a lot of excitement and optimism into the heavyweight scene, with many people believing (or hoping) this is the man to finally topple the heavyweight monopoly that is the Klitschko brother’s.
However, Haye who is not known for his punch output will not be able to successfully adopt similar tactics against a more mobile, faster, stronger and skilled boxer then Valuev was. Klitschko is an expert in using his size advantage to keep out of range, whilst using his jab to unbalance and wear down his opponents, before unleashing big right hands.
The question is will David Haye have the movement and stamina to last 12 rounds considering he has only gone the distance once in his career. It is clear to see that Haye possesses knockout power, but how effective will his power be against a man who has a granite chin and has never been knocked down before, not to mention the highest knockout ratio in boxing history.
With this all been said we all know the power associated with heavyweights and a fight can be won and lost in a split second, but I fear that Haye will be worn down before eventually being stopped. Either way this is an intriguing fight which will appeal to boxing fans on many levels.
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@..Paulie………..Please don’t write any more ignorant post’s…..
lewis is jelous..because haye is a real brit…not a plastic canadian jamaican american,,,with a weaker chin than haye!!lewis was ktfo twice by non punchers….haye HAS never been ko,d….tko,d yes….by the way!! CLITARLI…sorry vitali..has been ko.d…by another brit…pele reid..BOOM 35 second ko baby,,,goggle it yanks.also another brit????lewis tko,d him…..so i think haye atrue BRIT will kill him.
I really like Jackson’s quote: “We tend to magnify people’s talents we lust after.” What a great line!
Gotta think that when and if Haye steps into the ring with Vitali, he is going to realize the magnitude of his mistake.
He may not even believe his own trash talkin’. Ali used to trash talk to build the gate up for his next fight. Only thing
was, Ali was capable of backing up his words. Let’s face it, Ali was original, he had charisma and he was poetic. Haye lacks all of these things. When he attempts to talk trash he comes off like a buffoon and a boor.
Agreed Mr. Chicken, Jackson writes some good comments, They are making a big deal about Haye, he will get beat by Ruiz
lewis originally wanted to help train haye for vlad and began sparring with him, after a little sparring he backed out and was quoted in ring magazine as saying” “haye getting in the ring with either k brother would be a recipee for disaster….” but of course you fanboys know better, you read comic books with plenty of fights in them…pow…bam…
sorry guys……but you fellas just dont know haye?dont punch fast?lmao….p4p the hardest hitting fighter in the world today bar none..vitali in his PRIME couldnt finish an OLD FAT…AND GLASS CHINED LENNOX LEWIS…even if he was ahead in that fight….i saw lewis draining his will…dont forget he quits fights?and he is soooo slow..i was in cesas palace in vegas on holiday..i saw them roman god statues they have there..someone remarked that they look like vitali…i agreed….but i said…no!!the statues much quicker.
Mr Hudson
You are actually wrong. Haye had admitted that he was in fact knocked down in the 5th against Barrett. Barrett did hit Haye while Haye was down. However, Haye had also hit Barrett while he was down in an an earlier round. It is funny how the Haye fans and the ref didnt see that one.
Here is part of the article where Haye admits he was knocked down against Barrett:
I need these fights to get me disciplined. In the
cruiserweights I could do what I liked because the shots that came back I
could take. Make a mistake as a heavyweight and you’re on the floor.
It is all a learning process. Monte showed how tough he was. He hurt me
and put me down, but I am willing to fight tough guys like this,”
Haye told The Times.
Also Haye got beat by Thompson in his 11th fight as a professional. He has only been a pro for 2 years and Thompson was a massive step up. Since then Haye has been unbeaten in 13 fights, unified the cruiserweight division and won the heavyweight title.
Pacquiao got KO’d twice in round 3 early in his career but it didn’t stop him from becoming the P4P best in the world. Haye just wore himself out against Thompson, he was so used to just knocking guys out that he didn’t pace himself and was out on his feet by the 5th round – which was the furthest he had ever gone in a fight at the time. In fact, he has only ever been the distance twice.
never been in with a fighter who throws as hard as haye…what are you smoking boy? haye took quite a few rounds and dozens and dozens o0f flush shots to put down mormeck…barrett has been knocke dout in 1 round and 2 rounds by other fighters…either of the brothers has been in with 1o men who hit harder than haye…remember valuev was staggered by barrett…twice…barrett’s punches didnt faze vlad…and lewis couldnt put down vitali even when he was blinded by blood and hit right on the chin…and oh yes, vlad throws just as fast, but doesnt loop his punches like haye does…..he will get there first and he has a far better chin….haye was staggered by mormeck for god sake…fighters like mormeck don’t even get vlad’s attention..then there’s vitali…oh well, like lewis said, “haye getting in the ring with either k. bro. is a recipee for disaster…”
The Klitshko’s look horrible and beatable but when people fight them they tend to have a hard time with their power and size and end up losing. Haye is ko’d in 6 by Vitali. Vitali maybe slow but he’s not as slow and goofy as Vaulue. Value was a joke Ruiz even beat Value but was robbed. Haye may hit hard for a cruiser but this is the heavywieghts.
Haye defeat Vitali?? Hohoho hahahahaha teehee teehee hoho hahahoho LOL!!
Not a hope in hell. LOL!!
HAYE HAS FAR MORE TO OFFER THAN THE TWO BIG FELLAS !!!!!!! YEAH I AGREE THERE BIG AND IT WILL BE HARD BUT THE KLITCH BROS HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THE RING WITH ANYONE WHO THROWS PUNCHES AS HARD AS HAYE ! AS DIRRECT AS HAYE ! AND AS QUICK AS HAYE !!!!!!!! MAKE HAYE AND LET THE SUN SHINE !!!!
Well said McJack, spot on!
Both the Klitschko brothers would put a clinic on Haye.
To think that Haye has a chance against either of the Klitschko bros is wishful thinking. Can’t see him getting inside on Vitali to do any real damage. Even if he gets inside, what does he do about Vitali’s granite chin? Vitali is
incredibly strong and should be able to manhandle Haye on the inside. Don’t think Haye has any better chance against Vlad.
Vlad’s left jab has a lot of power and it is fast. The right hand that follows the jab has ko power behind it. Vlad’s left hook also seems to get better with each fight. Don’t let your heart over rule your head in these match ups. All Haye’s trash talking is not going to help him come ring time. Both Vitali and Vlad want this guy bad. Anyway, maybe Haye will have a financial reward to help him deal with the aftermath of what most boxing experts think is going to be a disaster for him.
I actually think Haye could counter Vitali more then Wlad. He would definately land more punches on Vitali just the problem is he has a granite chin. The only way i can see Haye beating him is if he Vitaly gets cut but the chances are very small.
Wladimir is not as tough as his older brother but his defence is great and his punch accuracy and power is even better than Vitalis so even if he is more vulnerable of the two i don’t see Haye beating him.
I hope that im wrong and that we at least get a exciting fight but i have a feeling that Haye is bluffing and is actually waiting for Vitaly to retire. He will try and fight Wlad sometime in 2011 or 2012 if he stays undefeated by then which i doubt.
haye will destroy ruiz….mark my wordz !!!!
Hey Pete: I think the only time he shows good power is when he connects with big looping punches and yes big looping punches do count. Haye reminds me alot of Ricardo Mayorga in his early days, once he went up in competition he got beaten up. Haye on the other hand is not the animal that Ricardo was. Haye looks like he will discourage quickly and he doesn’t have blazing hand speed or is his mobility that good. I really doubt him getting by Ruiz……..If I’m wrong so be it. But something tells me he’s gonna fall apart.
@ patpump
Haye isn’t that good as a heavyweight? How do you figure that? He has only had 3 fights at that weight KO’ing 2 of them and winning the title of another. He is P4P one of the hardest hitters in boxing and as more skills then every heavyweight out-there. Whatever your smoking, stop… it’s messing with your judgement.
Haye would be defensless against Wlad’s fast powerful hands, he is just way out of Haye’s league. Vitali would just plain brutalize him worse than he did Arreola. Haye can generate some power with wild looping punches, he’s a perfect target for Wlad. Haye moves around like a clod and doesn’t have great hand speed. Mark my words, Haye will not get by Ruiz……He just isn’t that good as a Heavyweight.
If Haye has any sense he’ll use similar tactics to those Manny and Floyd have relied upon for their entire careers. The only way he’ll beat either brother is to use his speed advantage and get punches off first. He’ll struggle to conuterpunch effectively against Vitali – I agree he’ll be able to get to Vlad much more easily with a counter punching style, but to beat Vitali he has to slip the jab or get his punches off first. He can’t stand off and pot shot like he did to Valuev as Vitali will pick him off and make an early night of it. He has to take the fight to Vitali and use his speed – get his punches off first. Vitali’s jab’s good but its not unbeatable and he’s much much slower than Haye at close range which is the only place Haye can win the fight. His relative youth should allow him to fight that way and if he’s any sense much of his training should be focussed on disrupting Vitali’s rythm and jab and making his way inside. Beatable but a tall order.
Vitali is definitely the dangerous option for David Haye for all the reasons you have explained. Vitali Klitschko would be the favorite to win and I think even Haye would understand why.
The exciting thing about Haye is that he has all the tools to beat the brothers. Wlad would be the easier option for him as I could see that fight ending early, with Haye countering Wlad and catching him clean.
As you say – Vitali has a solid chin and is good at cutting off the ring BUT Valuev had a solid and Haye had a bust hand. If Haye can keep his hands free from injury then I think backing him would be worth a go – you would get good odds.