Is Roach’s big mouth making it worse for Pacquiao?
March 10th, 2010
By Esteban Garduno: Freddie Roach has been talking long hard for anyone that wants to hear him about how his fighter Manny Pacquiao is going to beat Joshua Clottey on March 13th. As you would guess, a lot of the predictions by Roach have made its way back to Clottey and angering him to the point where he seems totally obsessed with punishing Pacquiao and taking his World Boxing Organization welterweight title on Saturday night. Roach may think he’s doing Pacquiao a favor by trying to get into the head of Clottey with his trash talk, but it could make things much tougher for Pacquiao, because he’s the one that will have to be in the ring with the angry and committed Clottey, not Roach.
Roach may not be aware of this, because he’s been out of the ring for ages and might not understand what it means to given an opponent extra motivation. Many trainers and coaches purposely bend over backwards not to upset their opponent by showing disrespect because they rightfully know that a motivated opponent is harder to deal with than one that has been treated well.
Roach may not know or care about any of this, because he seems to have become slightly cocky with the success that Pacquiao has had in the past five years. Roach is riding the gravy train and I think Roach has a feeling that Pacquiao is invincible in the ring. I don’t know if he is, but it doesn’t help to give an opponent extra motivation, especially if you’re not the one that’s going to be taking his shots.
Pacquiao will have to answer for the barbs that Roach has been slinging at Clottey for the past month, and he could end up taking a great deal more punishment as a result. Maybe Roach doesn’t care, because he seems to be trying to push Pacquiao into retiring in a couple of fights. But it won’t help Pacquiao if he gets beaten up by Clottey, and has nothing left for a subsequent fight against Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Roach should leave the trash talking to the fighter. If Pacquiao wants to downgrade Clottey, then he should be the one that does it and not Roach. It seems like Roach has taken over the job of Pacquiao by yapping 24/7 about how badly flawed Clottey is. Roach doesn’t like to keep his mouth shut, and prides himself on being outspoken, but he should at least think about what it could mean for his fighter.
If Clottey is willing to fight his heart out to make Roach eat his words, it will be Pacquiao who could end up paying for it.
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True! Roach deserves some credit, but at the end of the day, why do people talk about Roach like god?
Pacman deserves most of the credit as he is the one getting in the ring! Anyone with an idea of boxing training could’ve been in Roach’s shoes and be taking the credit for Manny’s success.
So yeah, I agree. Roach should talk as if he’s the one fighting!
mario,
because we speak the truth, yet again they took my comment off
CT
What are you talking abouit? LOL
Roach says funny things all the time and has quite an arrogant attitude about him! Roach is the greatest mind in boxing? LOL
roach is arrogant and very much over rated as a trainer. manny fools nobody with his false sincerity. how disrespectful to your opponent to pre-plan a victory party where pacman will be singing songs. and people call mayweather arrogant!! i hope clottey gives him a sound beating
Freddie Roach has been in the boxing game since he was a pre-teen. That’s a good 40 yrs. He’s one of the best boxing minds of all time. By now everything he does is highly calculated. His comments are psychologically brilliant. His comments are always polite and factual, never overstated or emotional. He plants a mental seed in opponent’s mind that that grows like a weed. Little Floyd has already been bothered by Roach…refering to Roach as that “loud mouthed trainer.” He is the perfect complement to Manny, they have this good cop-bad cop scenario down pat. Roach is the “King of the Psych.”
Roach´s boy will get beatened badly in 5 rounds. They will peel the pilipino off the canvas after clottey devastates him.
freddie needs two slow down an think .. rght know he is seethrew…clear as day..
FREDDIE loves the CAMERA and THE MICROPHONE. He just gotta have the SPOTLIGHT ON HIM just like FLOYD Sr.
just to discredit pac & roach with what they achieved and accomplished together, haters criticize everything, every preparations, every moves and even their words. this writer is a pac hater, roach hater. haters will never run out of ideas, reasons to put pac & roach down together. that’s their role. criticisms like this will make pac & roach greater, even more popular. you know what? pac has really gotten into the heads of writer haters, dave lahr, santiago, perez, and now garduno. there will be more after march 13 & pac will go up to another level!
I believe Clottey to be a smart fighter. So, he probably won’t let Roach’s talk get him off his game. He’s not gonna come out at the bell throwing wide hooks, like Hatton, just because of what Roach said. He is a very patient fighter–too patient at times. But, that doesn’t mean he won’t be fueled by this, should he get a chance to finish Pac.
Is Roach making it worse for Pac?
If Clottey is good enough to beat Pac he wins. If he’s not he doesn’t. Period
Beside, do you really you think fighters waste time reading articles on websites?
reality check- Roach has been going off on Clottey since day one……..I did not see the HBO special, and I actually havent heard much about it either. But like I was saying, there is no such category for a “classy” trashtalker…………..either you are a trashtalker or you are not.
anybody watch the HBO Pac-Clottey countdown? A little trash talkin’ from Clottey trainer. Nothing wrong with hype, but just back it up is all i ask for. Trash talking goes hand in hand with boxing.
yea that right,the trash talking is getting a bit too much.some their a reason ,like to keep a interest between pac and floyd ,and calling a knock down one time,but to keep at it is senseless .but what it really is the media will ask you to speak every where you go you just have to so no sometimes .
OK Pac fans, this is a perfect example of why it is soo hard to have an honest conversation with you guys………..and, lol….I am actually a Pac fan myself, but you guys take the cake. So, now Freddie roach is considered to be a “classy” trash talker because he is Pac’s trainer………lololo. A trash talker is a trash talker…..there is no other way to describe them, or you would be calling them something else. Roach’s mouth, is just as big as Floyd’s, and just because he talks about his fighter, and not about himself like Floyd, doesnt make him ANY different. Roach has from the very beginning, and VERY publically disrespected and has held Clottey in VERY low esteem, and what has Clottey said???……….there has been ZERO trash talk from him or ANYBODY in his camp……….but roach just keeps on yapping about Clottey like he was yesterday’s trash. There has been NOTHING “classy” about what Roach has had to say about Clottey, even in the smallest regard. Again, when it comes to anything, or anybody associated with Pac, his fans come running out of the woodworks to justify him at all costs, and it has become ridiculously obvious.
Esteban Garduno a David Lahr in disguise it’s obvious…
roach can say any thing he wants cuz he knows and manny knows all the steroidz his been take in all this years since i beat eriks fights manny go hang your self worthless pinoy shame on you manny roidz thats why he can talk all he wants
Trash talks, what are you all talking about? Freddie Roach is an amateur compare to Floyds clan when badmouthing and trashing talks are concerned. Freddie is a trainer and he is telling only what he can see and what he believes his fighter can and will do. Clotteys trainer is doing the same. So what seems to be the problem? They are hyping and promoting the fight to gain more publicity, because both boxers are gentlemen. Somebody has to do the job and both trainers are the one whose doing it. And it becomes more exciting because both trainers doesn´t really like each other based on their past history. All of you who are making this so called “Freddie Roach trashing talks” as argument can drop it. You don´t need to have 160 IQ not to figure out that most of your intentions are just to discredit this fight. Get a life people!
I think there is no need for Freddie’s trash talk. Clottey is motivated enough already.
Yes! A few more sleep and its fight night!!!
GO PACQUIAO!!!
GO CLOTTEY!!!
Freddie Roach is a mess, but there is nothing wrong with him predicting a Pacquiao will knock out or stop Joshua Clottey. He has said it in Pacquiao last three fights. If it aint broke dont fix it.
Im actually rooting for Pacquiao in this fight. Not because i like him, because everytime i root against him PAC wins. SO i’m going to act like a Pacquiao fan!
Pacquiao is the greatest fighter boxing has ever seen! he beats up all his sparring partners! The man is unbeatable! he is the fastest the strongest the pound 4 pound best fighter in the world. Manny Pacquiao will knock clottey out in 4 rounds! Also Joshua Clottey is one of the best welterweights of this era! he is the best fighter Pacquiao will ever face man that Joshua Clottey he is awesome!!!!
Ok so i just rooted for pacquiao and pumped up joshua clottey to be a top welterweight.
Hopefully this jinxes pacquiao!!!
PACNATION in the house!
LOL
Roach knows exactly what he is doing. Clottey is goin to come out and want to knock out Pac which will open up for Pac to land that left!! simple as that. where do they get these writers again!
Lay down your credentials as an expert writer on boxing Mr Garduno.At least Roach is a former boxer and has an authority of what he is doing Awards speaks for itself.And btw,it is called psy-war for your info.You and the likes of David Lahr,CW and Manuel Perez(where is she now) should not be submitting pieces of sh ts on this site.
esteban, you should say that to the mayweathers. at least roach is trash talks all in the context of boxing. while chicken floyd trash talks just about anything including mosley’s divorce…. now tell me, what’s got to do with boxing? you shut up esteban, you dont know anything about the subject.
“News Break,Clottey having trouble making weight at 147,don’t be surprised if he’s overweight for the fight.
trash talk from Roach, common so many people make so much money bt.Pacman and Roach team you are just jealous.how about Mayweather family trash talk
they all losser ,by the way I make money bt. hotton and Pacman thanks for trash talk of Mayweather Sr.
@ chris
When Floyd does it. It’s utterly classless. Last time I checked on the Mayweather trash talk odometer. Ricky Hatton was flattened in less than 6 minutes and was out for four minutes. before he even landed on the canvas, Mayweather Sr. had his back turned and was already on his way in the locker room not even giving a care to his prized fighter. He was more worried about his ego than making sure that his fighter was not dead.
Go on an root for these suckas.
Why when floyd talks trash pac fans bad mouth him. But pacs trainer does it and its part of the game.Both fighters are good, one guy just goes for the kill amd the other just makes guys look stupid. Please enjoy both.
Roach ranks a close to second to Teddy Atlas as trainers that need to SHUT THE F*$# UP! They both talk too damn much.
I completely agree…
Roach is not only putting Pac in a position where it looks like he cant speak for himself he also makes him look weak. All these recent reports coming out of that camp about how he wants to knock out Floyd and wants to CRUSH Floyd has his name attached to it. Where was all this tough talk when they were negotiating? He sounds like the guy talking sh*t when the opponent is down the block. NOthing but coulda, woulda shoulda…
All this is a ploy to keep this fight from being completely overshadowed by the bigger event coming May 1st.
Save the talking, show it in the ring!
esteban, are we brothers?
Boxers who take it personally often loses. Remember Oscar when he said it’s personal, see what happened. Boxing is also a mind game and don’t forget the most important thing, the more skillful fighter wins.
Trash talking is ok as long as it’s not Floyd, right pacfans?
Mr. Garduno, you should be the one to stop yapping because win or lose, you’re not affected by the outcome. I know you would really be elated if Pacquiao lost and we know you’re one of the Pac haters, so shut up!!!!!!!!!
Understand what the article is trying to say but i think with all due to respect he has a right to say these things. He has has spent 7 yrs training Manny and turning him into the fighting machine you see today. What do you expect Roach to say, ‘It will be a good fight’, hell no his fighter is not going to get motivated by that.
another writer who knows basically nothing about boxing. has he ever laced up a glove in his life-i guess not!
Trash talk is whta makes fights exciting, its wat hypes the fight n gets the fighters training harder! n not just that it gives u dat edge mental edge over ur opponent makin them think things they shouldn’t. In this case roach is playing mind games with Clottey therefore he is slipping away from his gameplan which will entail pacquio to punish him! But come fight night lets see wat happens, who punishes who….
roach is a genious legend god in freddie we trust lol
There’s a reason why Roach keeps yappin’ Garduno….IT’S BECAUSE PACQUIAO CAN BACK IT UP!
The only person who got a big mouth is you Mr. Garduno !!!!
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a trainer having confidence in his fighter, but I do agree that Freddie is doing too much talking. In fact that is the very reason why the fight between pacquiao and mayweather did not happen. Manny completely allows his team too make ALL of his business decisions for him, a bad quality for a potential future politician. The trash talking does add more pressure on manny because he is already an overwhelming favorite to win, and does not need the added pressure of living up to his trainer prediction if a knockout over a guy who has never been ko’d. Do I smell an upset?
Trash talking has been part of boxing since the beginning of the sport. It doesn’t matter who it comes from. Anger will never help you in the ring, and training is long past gone. You have to be calm and collected under all conditions. You’re a joke.