Is Pacquiao starting to slow down?
March 16th, 2010
By Chris Williams: Manny Pacquiao didn’t look all that impressive to me last Saturday night in beating Joshua Clottey by a 12 round decision. The hand speed wasn’t there, and neither was the movement and power. And looking at how badly Pacquiao was gasping for breaths in between rounds, it seemed like he wasn’t in shape. I don’t whether Pacquiao is long for the welterweight division unless he plans on getting out of the sport soon. I can see a point in the very near future where Pacquiao will start to take major punishment if he chooses to stick around much longer.
The way I see it all the feeding and the emphasis on making Pacquiao a bigger fighter has hurt him by making his slower and hurting his conditioning. While Pacquiao was in the corner in between rounds, I could even see fat on him. He’s starting to put weight on and it’s not muscle. That tells me that Pacquiao needs to lose some weight, stop easting as much, work on his conditioning more or think about retiring.
The way Pacquiao fought on Saturday night, I think Mayweather – or Mosley – would have beaten him senseless without any problems. Pacquiao has always been able to get away with having poor defensive skills because of his fast hands, aggressiveness and high work rate. But now that Pacquiao has moved up in weight and is looking to finally fight a live body in Mayweather, his lack of defensive skills are going to be badly exposed by Mayweather or Mosley.
You can’t fight those guys with a primitive brawling style like Pacquiao. It takes a complete fighter to not only beat those guys but to compete with them. What I saw of Pacquiao on Saturday night wasn’t a fighter that would be able to even come close to beating Mayweather or Mosley. My advice then is for Pacquiao to retire or take off some of that flab that he’s put on, stop eating so much and learn some defensive skills.
Pacquiao needs to say no to being power fed and he needs to work on his stamina. Also, I don’t know that Freddie Roach is going to be able to teach Pacquiao the defensive skills needed to beat Mayweather or Mosley. Roach has been training Pacquiao for years now, yet Pacquiao still is wide open defensively, as if he hasn’t learned anything. I think Pacquiao needs a defensive trainer to that can work with Roach and try and make Pacquiao a better fighter.
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Chris Williams,
Does your IQ test came back NEGATIVE?
Does nobody understand that if you were the champion, you wouldnt let some contender like floyd dictate the rules of the game. A lot of people say why would you not take a 40 million dollar drug test. #1, you are a broke ass nigga. If you were worth what manny was you might think a little differently
Marquez never won against Pacquiao and 4x knockdown in two fights….Do you think Marquez can survive if they have a 3rd fight…Even Floyd Knows Pacquiao is not a easy Opponent,that why floyd is Trashing,demanding and Pretending he can win.
@The Rock
Paul Williams can also throw 100 punches per round; what do you think he would have done to Clottey?
Their are a handful of punchers that are conditioned well enough to throw 1,000 punches in a fight, but alot of them don’t cause it is not within their style of fighting to throw that many punches. If you don’t know of any other boxers that can throw 1,000 punches in a fight just leave the website now.
I don’t care what any body says but you can’t both chase a fighter and successfully land combinations at the same time, but if you have a guy standing right infront of you it’s a whole other story. The key to dealing with a guy that throws alot of punches is constantly moving around that way he can never get set to throw 6 punch combinations, but putting your guard up and standing their is not the answer. That’s something a B class fighter would do.
@graham
it’s obvious you’re backing up Floyd on this so I shouldn’t even waste my breath. But Manny was dafamed by Team Mayweather and GBP, and if you wonder whether it was a smear campaign just look at the thousands of sheeple just like you who are dumb enough to believe the ramblings of criminals and half-wits accusing a highly respected, well regarded, completely respectful champion like Pacquiao.
What makes it sad is that Manny would never do something as petty and low as Mayweather and his family/promoters in a million years. And what makes it even more sad is that sheeple like you believe them.
Ironic that Mayweather demands testing from a fighter who has abided by the rules of his sports governing body since day one, then proceeds to fight Mosley, a self-admitted PED user, and thinking he’s doing the sport a favor by asking him to take extra drug testing.
If it wasn’t so sad it would be hilarious.
Manny and Floyd will compromise and make the fight happen. Only Floyd will be doing it for money only while Manny will do it because the world and his fans demand it of him. Two excellent fighters with enormously different interpretations of respect and honor.
…ryan
MANNY next opponent is someone on this listhttp://www.toprank.com/Fighters.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=23700
Bob Arum is ruining boxing. It has nothing to do with a blood test or anything like that. Bob arum just wants all the money.
@LIL GIANT
You’re so petty and small. Making a big fuss about Pacuiao’s shades. Is that how jealous you’ve become? You even use the insignificant shades just to knock him? Ha ha ha! What a retard!
You can say what ever you want in trying to defend Clottey, but the fact remains that he is a B class fighter. Beating Zab Judah is impressive, but not when that is the biggest victory of your career in over a decade of boxing. As for the amount of punches Clottey threw, that should have been expected by every body who claims to be a boxing fan for these reasons: Clottey has a history of not throwing enough punches; a matter of fact his fight with Pacquiao wasn’t even his lowest punch out put. The second reason we should have known this was going to happen is because he is yet to defeat any elite opponent in his career with out choking, their was no reason to believe he could do it against Pacquiao, and the last reason is the man has not had a KO in years. All of that equals B class fighter. The difference between Clottey, and Judah, Gatti, and Baldomir is that Judah, Gatti, and Baldomir have won titles multiple times, and accomplished more in boxing than Joshua Clottey. The only title Clottey has won was the IBF welterweight title and if I’m not mistaken he lost that after his first title defense.
im going to put it very simple to everyone here there will be NO fight between pacman and mayweather UNLESS pacman takes the test. him and roach can call out mayweather as many times as they want but the fact remains that they know what they have to do if they want to fight PBF and that is just take the test.
MY PREDICTIONS
1. MAYWEATHER BEATS MOSLEY
2. PBF AND PACMAN DONT FIGHT
3. MOSLEY GETS THE FIGHT WITH PACMAN EVEN KNOW HE LOST TO PBF
4. MOSLEY BEATS PACMAN
5. PACMAN RETIRES UNLESS (REMATCH)
i could be wrong but i doubt it. lol
That’s right Chris, keep writing stuff like this and maybe you could convince Floyd to fight Manny.
I invite anyone in here to throw 100 punches at full force for 3 minutes and see how hard they are breathing after 1 round of that. Now multiply that by 12 rounds and let your buddy punch you in the face while you’re doing it. It’s not that he’s aging, he was just going at such a fast pace, of course he’s going to be tired.
I agree with RICO that Mosley and PBF wouldn’t give Clottey a chance to fight them because the risks outweigh the benefits of fighting a guy like Clottey. He’s not well known by most boxing fans, but is a legit WW. He’s durable and punches hard. People say he’s a Class B fighter because he was dominated by Pacquiao, but he beat Judah just like PBF and gave Margarito a run for his money. He was robbed in the decision against Cotto. He also would have won his fight against Baldomir if he wasn’t disqualified. In my opinion Clottey has only really lost to Pacquiao. This should be a testament to boxing fans that Pacquiao is a great fighter.
I’m not a nuthugger of any boxer, but I realize that Pacquiao is a great fighter just like PBF is a great fighter and Mosley is a great fighter. Pacquiao’s dominance over Clottey is no small feat. I don’t think Mosley or PBF would have dominated Clottey the way Pacquiao did. I actually think Clottey would give both of them a rough time in the fight. In that sense I think a fight between Pacquiao and Mayweather or Mosley would be a great event to watch and the outcome would be unpredictable unlike many people in here claiming that Pacquiao will dominate, PBF will dominate, or Mosley will dominate.
To the LIL Giant.
The Rocks says…..so which fighter turned into a clam or many people have said “the turtle”? Clottey is a tough guy. No doubt. But even in Clottey’s own words, he (Manny) was too fast. Clottey The Clam knew if he had opened and tried to go toe to toe with Manny, he would have certainly faced his first KO. From the beginning till the end, Manny was on Clottey like white on rice. and tried his best to KO Clottey who he was controlling throughout the fight. Clottey may have been clean, but thats what happens when all throughout the fight he stuck his gloves in front of his face. Clottey is also built like granite. Really muscular guy with great genetics. And Manny made him look like a complete Pu$$y. If you don’t think so, ask his fellow countrymen who are now embarrassed of Clottey’s cowardly fight and his turtle tactics. A 5’8 and probably over 160 lbs jacked Ghanian warrior reduced by a 5’6 man who barely weighed 149 lbs into a timid fighter and completely intimitated. Again The Rock wants to point out, there is no boxer that has made Joshua Clottey turn timid and turned into a human punching bag because he was so overwhelmed with the speed of his little opponent….that is the #1 Pound for Pound fighter in the world.
The People’s champ The Rock is half Afrcan American. The
Rock is proud of his heritage of being African American and the proud nation of Samoa. The Rock doesn’t care the nationality of Manny Pacquiao. All Manny does is he brings it. In his fight with Clottey, his opponent refuses to engage in a fight but what does Manny do…continue an impressive onslaught just to keep this fight going. What Manny did is what Manny others fighters do, take what they give you. If Clottey decided all of sudden become a human punching bag, Manny will oblige. Manny continued to hitting Clottey none stop, and continued to throw 5,6,7 punch combinations. Manny was going on full blast from round 1 to the 12th. Unlike many fighters who would have punched themselves out, and thats what Clottey though might have happened. And other foes thought as well. Several times, Manny let Clottey take some free shots so they would engage and Manny will often return that favor by hitting him multiple multiple multiple times. If you think Manny was not impressive, you don’t know $hit about boxing. As Clottey said “he was too fast.” It is not Manny’s fault!! What Manny had done was what he has done since his fight with DLH…overwhelm his opponents. What many don’t realize Manny made a fighter like Clottey who at fight night weighed at a solid middleweight and made Clottey submit. A fighter who barely made 145 at the formal weight in. Nobody has ever, and The Rock means EVER made Clottey submit. Thats a FACT!! And Manny made him submit when Clottey turned into a turtle.
People call Manny an all time great but I have never seen a fighter get beat up and win. Manny the dude only threw 399 punches and you still got beat up. I mean the dude went to the press conference with shades on. Mayweather has never went to a post press conference with shades on after a fight. The dude only threw 399 punches in the fight. All I know is Clottey didn’t have shade one at the press conference and he supposedly got beat up. Manny needs to know what Defense is. Cotto and Clottey both put hands on Manny. Roy Jones in his hey day never put shades on either. But Manny is an all time great. CHILD PLEASE
@SOUTHPAW
TEBOW DIDN’T PLAY DURING THE FIRST CHAMPIONSHIP. HE RODE THE BENCH. CHRIS LEAK WAS THE STARTER. NOW YOU SEE HOW THE HYPE MACHINE WORKS FIRST HAND.
Ryan Dunn,
“without worthy susicion”? – in other sports if you miss a drug test you are suspected of hiding something and are punished. In this case Pacquiao refused to take the test and gave the most laughable reason(s) I have ever heard. Just because you choose to be blind does not mean that Pacquiao’s behaviour is not suspicious.
Pacquiao owes it to himself, his family, his friends, his fans, the sport of boxing, and even the people who voted him the “linear champion of the decade”, to show that he is not using PEDs. That the wins he got against Barrera, Morales, De La Hoya, Cotto, and Hatton among others, could not have been powered by PEDs.
You think asking someone to take an Olympic-style random blood test is a “cheap trick” but obviously Pacquiao disagrees with you. He thinks it’s serious enough that he has taken out a lawsuit.
Again, why did Pacquaio refuse to take a simple blood test, even for $40 million, if he is not hiding anything? Is he using PEDs.
Jeams,
That’s childish reasoning, there is always a first time for everything, that’s how things get done.
Now that Mosley and Mayweather are going to take the Olympic-style random blood test, will Pacquiao step up and do the same?
@southpaw
Nice way to fall in my trap CLOWN! You made my poiny exactly. Tebow was called the best QB in history, won championships, etc… But guess what; when compared to the other great athletes in college football. He’s not even considered among the best. He’s projected to be a 3rd or 4th round pick! At best! So, like i said…Boxings version of Tim Tebow!!!!!! hahahahahaahahaaaaa
its also focken funny to hear pro mayweather fams call the fight boring!!!
pot kettle black maybe!
@Anonymous, wow, a really bad example. Overrated, but has more national championships than any other 4 year starter? Has a higher win percentage, and completion percentage, touchdown to int percentage than any other college quarterback? Use a better example, like Ryan leaf, or Ladanian Tomlinson, or Tony Mandrich… someone other than Tebow.
Then again, maybe it is a good example, regardless of the hype, who has won against stiffer boxing competition? How many welterweights in the history of boxing can or would throw 1231 punches in order to secure a victory.
Yeah, Pac has been hyped up, but the way he goes about his business is the reason why he has so much press. Again, what are the results? Is it hype then? What is the combined win/loss record of his last 40 opponents? How many K.O’s do they have, how many legends has he fought?
See, hype is defined as good press regardless of substance, well, according to the competition he has faced, it isn’t hype. Arguably, Tebow is the most winning “college” quarterback, with some of the sickest stats for a “college” QB ever, but the “hype” would be that it translates into the same type of results in the professional game. So maybe you can call it hype for Tebow, but Pac is in the pro-boxing game, and the results don’t lie. He just wins, can’t call it hype, just call it winning, whether its ugly, or exciting, it’s still winning. So no “hype”, just way too much good press.
Manny Pacquiao….Boxings version of Tim Tebow… Overhyped and Overrated!!!!!
Throwing 1,200 punches is slowing down to you? He could have dance & run all 12 rounds, ala Floyd, & throw 1,200 punches will that impress you? Unanimous decision win on all 12 rounds.
Unless you are a fighter in the olympics.
@graham
Because there has NEVER BEEN A BOXER who got tested using the olympic style. So its unnecessary.
Why all the sudden you believe the boy who cried wolf. Mayweather and his family speculate such because they feel insecure. He is the biggest chicken on stage.
Hey Jorge,
And Floyd Mayweather JMM was a great fight? He came in overweight. Chris Williams is making an argument of how slow Manny is cause of the extra weight. PBF made JMM come up 17 pounds. It made him slower. And you PBF fans say that was a great boxing legend. PBF didn’t have the decency to come in at the agreed weight!
As far as all you Top Rank Haters, you guys are also disrespecting someone who has made boxing over the last 40 years!! GBP has Mosley and Mayweather in the same camp. Whats the difference.
count on chris william to criticize pacman. he never fails to find a reason.
the writer must be talking about another fight!
well its obvious that the writer aint a big pacfan, i am but i agree that he did look somewhat slow. Ariza said they focused more on power cause of clotteys size. You can argue that he was breathing heavy cause he threw a 100 punches per round. and yes i agree that pacs defense is bad. but he got hit by some also cause like the cotto strategy he wanted clottey to open up and punch more so that he could get his combinations in. We can never tell what would happen if clottey did open up, maybe he could have beaten pac or maybe pac could have KOd him. Base on this performance? i dont think pac can win against floyd. floyds so fast, and hes style is murder for pac. but who knows? pac just might be the guy that finally beat floyd. pacs proved mer wrong before
jorge,
The whole punches landed/thrown is very misleading. Even if Marquez landed more, you’re not taking into account knock downs. Not only that, you’re not taking into account the distribution of those punches.
i.e. if JMM landed 30 more punches than Pacquiao in the fight let’s say. If he landed 20 more in one round, and 10 in the other, but Pacquiao landed 5 more punches in the 6 following rounds, Pacquiao still wins more rounds 6 to 2.
Just an example. The same goes for your ODLH/Mayweather decision, it’s still an SD no matter how you cut it, and it was really close in terms of who took the rounds. Give ODLH credit for staying busy for most of the fight.
@graham
You are totally entitled to your opinion. But believe it or not, without worthy susicion, Manny doesn’t owe it to anyone to prove anything. Where you see automatic guilt I see Floyd making a demand of the linear champion of the decade and the champion simply saying no.
It starts and ends there. The rest of the sideshow is prologue. A cheap trick conjured by an arguably dim witted Mayweather Camp intended to stir the pot but he broke it instead.
That’s my opinion anyhow.
…ryan
The Pac I see is as fast as ever. Of course he’s fighting more guys with height and reach advantages. But bottom line is Pac put on 15-20 pounds or fast-twitch muscle. His physical trainer should be physical trainer of the decade.
LOL Marquez fans, “if it weren’t for Marquez getting knocked on his ass, he would have won the fight!!” Well he did get knocked down, and thus deserves the lost and didn’t deserve the draw because he lost that one too.
Juan Manuel Marquez did beat Pacquiao in the 2nd fight and arguable in the 1st fight after getting knocked down 3 times in the first round!. in the 2nd fight he landed more punches, at a higher connect rate, more power punches, more jabs and if it wasnt for that knock down in the 3rd round he controlled the whole fight.
Watch the fight without volume without Jim “Im on PAcquiao nuts” Lampley screaming after Pacquiao throws a combination. and you’ll see who really won that fight.
What Marquez did was very simple, he moved and countered punch Manny.
Manny tried to attack Marquez moved didnt stay in what spot. Marquez threw jabs to off set Manny Pacquiao timing.
Marquez used Manny Pacquiao relentlessness against him.
Diaz, Hatton, De La Hoya, Cotto couldnt put that game plan together a blue print Marquez put out there for people to see.
Not because they didnt want to, its because they didnt have the style to do it.
Mayweather Mosley will be able to implement all the things Marquez did and make Manny look like an Amateur.
Manny isnt slowing down….
he fought a punching bag that failed to come to fight.
If he was scared thats even worse, who would like to say i beat a scared fighter.
33+ punches/minute…Chris Williams, you call that slowing down?
I haven’t even finished reading the article, where did this guy come from? How is he even a Boxing writer????
The fact of the matter is, if you fight pacquiao toe to toe and become offensive, then you will get punished, just like cotto, but if you get defensive like clottey, you may land 2 or 3 punches to pacquiao’s face, but the pac-man will still be victorious through his punch output, speed and work rate.
Either way, its win win for pacquiao
OMG Pacquiao did not slow down. He maintained his work rate, if he did slow down then clottey would have taken advantage but he did not do that as much. Even the commentators were surpirsed at the fact that Pacquaio just kept on punching without slowing down.
Slowing down??? You gotta be kidding me. 1200 punches thrown in 12 rounds @ 3 min/round. That’s 33.333 punch / minute. wtf are you talking about?
Ryan Dunn,
You don’t need “a receipt for hGH” or to “discovers a freezer full of Mannys frozen blood bags” to find out if Pacqiao is PEDs or not. Pacquiao could have settled this question by taking the Olympic-style random blood test, but he refused to do it.
If Pacquiao is not on PEDs, then why is he refusing to take the Olympic-style random blood test?
@LuvBoxing
“I also laugh at those who say Floyd “…couldn’t even KO JMM…” well Pac Man didn’t exactly KO him either. In fact, there is a legit argument that JMM beat Pac Man in two of those fights.”
Pacman knock JMM down 4 times in their 2 fights, if that was UFC he’s dead already. Personally, as long as your opponent still want to fight he should not be considered as defeated. A defeated opponent must show submission or knocked out
I love to see a trilogy between them
@Judge Judy
“Anyway, did you fire David Liar already? I haven’t read his article after Clottey’s defeat against Pacman.”
He changed his name to Esteban Garduno and Chris Williams is his apprentice
Did David Lahar just eat all the words he writes up against Pacman??? I hope he didn’t throttle.
I also laugh at those who say Floyd “…couldn’t even KO JMM…” well Pac Man didn’t exactly KO him either. In fact, there is a legit argument that JMM beat Pac Man in two of those fights.
jacki,
LOL, that’s cold. I’m gonna steal that one from you
I don’t think he is slowing down just yet. He just didn’t have enough time to fully heal his body from the beating he took from Cotto.
The man threw 1200+ punches hahaha… give the man a break..
Pacquiao’s always been open to punches. His defense isn’t the best. The man likes to fight toe to toe.. He’ll be open to take some punches, but he is planning to take more… Knockout!!!
Thats why the majority of his fights are classic..
Pacquiao will sweat blood to give fans their money’s worth and thats the kind of fighter I like to watch..
From this point on.. win or lose.. he is already a “Legend”.. “etched in stone” “future hall of famer”
Whether you love or hate him. You got to respect him for what he’s has done for boxing..
Mayweather has a PHD, a Player Hater Degree.
Floys is a Moron period.
Here in California from Los Angeles to San Franciso, Filipino’s Black’s and Latino’s are side by side with when it comes to minority reforms. I can expand on this but it ain’t boxing but since Floyd Jr highlighted ethnic minority as the secret ingridient in the pudding, well all I can say is that he’s a Moron who’s mouth is a lot faster then his brain can compute..
Manny’s Slowing Down??? 1231 Punches over 12 Rounds amounts to 102 punches plus per round, a punch every three seconds.
@ HAKU
Yes he would. He just needs to keep it humble and shut his fat mouth up. Ever wonder why nobody endorse his name brand? Because you can’t sell trash to the masses no matter how good. Tiger Woods will be returning to the masters. Many had drop him and some still rides. Those who rode will make tons when he gets back on the screen. That’s the price these responsible brands are willing to take in order to keep their name brand respected.
South Africa during the height of Apartheid in the 80′s. Coke and Pepsi. One company left and one stayed and made all the profit. I think at this point, you should be getting the point. Now do some studies.
Haku,
It has nothing to do w/race. If he were white and the same @sshole he is today he’d be met w/the same reproach. We have a black president for crying out loud. I hate when Floyd brings up race, it sounds so ignorant. Tiger WAS the most popular athlete in the world, and the NBA is full of “black” stars. In the past most of the best boxers were black, it’s 2010 people aren’t as ignorant. You can tell Floyd antagonizes Asians for some reason, Filipinos specifically.
@Ryan Dunn
Are you serious? Baby Shots??? LOL…
And as far YOUR BOY Pacquiao is concerned. IF the time ever comes when he fights a Berto, Mosley, Mayweather, or even a Bradley jr. Hell, anyone who can move; he will be done! In ALL my years of watching boxing i have never such an overhyped and overrated fighter as Pacman. But, hey people hated Ali back in the day. Thats the price of being an undefeated, flamboyant, black fighter in America. Like floyd said, if he were white he’d be the most loved athlete in America.
THIS FIGHT WAS FAKE!!! CLOTTEY IS PROMOTED BY BOB ARUM..
CLOTTEY WAS TOLD NOT TO THROW A LOT OF PUNCHES (which he doesnt anyways).AND THE ONLY ONES THAT HE THREW REALLY HURT FAKEQUIAO!!!
This was the most entertaining 5 minute interview with Floyd.
Awesome ESPN ‘Good Five Minutes With Floyd Mayweather’ interview.
ESPN: “Come on, Floyd just say just say PACQUIAO just say the word PACQUIAO”….
Floyd: “Mosley”
ESPN: ( Laughing Out loud ) “He’s good, he’s good at ducking and dodging”…….
Realistic,
I agree to some extent that they are “ducking” Williams. But it’s a lose/lose. Sad to say it, but the money isn’t there and Williams stature is way too big for a WW. I believe the punisher is #10 P4P right now, but Quintana showed that Pwill isn’t superman, and the Martinez fight was questionable on its own.
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At the end of the day the height and reach advantage may prove to be too much. If you put Pacquiao/Mayweather at a 9, and Pwill at a 7 (in terms of skills), that gap closes quickly w/his freakish genetics. Lets not forget PWill has an impressive workrate, he’s there to trade. I think it’ll neutralize May’s defense if anything. Pac is an infighter, so he has a better chance of neutralizing the power of Pwill’s punches, while delivering blows of his own.
All in all PWill just isn’t in the picture right now. No other fighter aside from Mosley is. W/the Mega Fight looming on the horizon, it’s all people want to see. After that though, if Pwill can build a bigger name, it may happen.
cmonn man the guy had four fights in 15 months who wouldnt be a little fatigued. And whos the idiot that says there is no power in counterpunching those r some of the cleanest shots to land and they dont have to be powerful when you catch your opponent off balance. out of neccessity or not he adjusted his game and still aint been beat you can talk about broken hands or fast combos or whatever you want ill take a smart boxer over an aggressive one any day
I’m a pacfan and I agree with the writer. There are SO MUCH room for improvement on Defensive skills for pacquiao. I hated to see how he was so open with the same uppercuts all the time. Cotto first exposed this, and Clottey someone took advantage of it, but not enough to screw Pacman over. I hate to say this, but as of now, I don’t think Pacquiao can take Mayweather as of yet.
when mayweather is on the receiving end of the punishment that manny gave clottey,floyd will plain quit.granted floyd is good at running, still, the ring is not too big to elude manny’s blows.counterpunch? there’s no power there. he can’t even put away marquez when he should have in the early going.his brittle hands were hurt during training for that fight too.don’t believe that mysterious rib injury they tried to peddle.the same pattern can be said when he fought hatton and dela hoya.if mosely doesn’t gas out in the upcoming fight, he’ll win big.money will run around all night,wait for the opponent to tire out,and punch hard enough to hurt him.that’s his move. his only move.even wonder why he doesn’t throw hard, k.o. punches in the early and middle rounds?it’s them brittle hands.broken bones don’t heal. the injury keeps recurring when you hit them against a hard object. why do you think he prefers using the thickest gloves allowed? and what’s more, he’s good at hiding this weakness.floyd became a good defensive boxer out of necessity.how else is he gonna fight with those broken hands? this is boxing not debating. he can’t hurt mosely, if mosely plays it smart.and definitely, pacquiao will knock floyd out if that fight ever happens.
I laugh at every “fan” on here that claims to be knowledgeable, yet still blames Floyd for not fighting Cotto & Margarito. Other than the fact that Cotto wasn’t ready for Floyd, there is the small detail about both of those fighters being with TOP RANK.
Bob Arum is NOT going to have his money makers in the ring with Floyd Mayweather. The only reason he let Pac Man fight Cotto & Clottey is because he fights for Top Rank and it helps his image. Why would Arum let Floyd take down his meal tickets one by one.
Anyone who does not understand the dynamic of Arum and his hate for Floyd, who left Top Rank and became 10 times as famous and made 10 times as much money, just doesn’t understand boxing.
There is an excellent article on now boxing that details the extent that Arum goes to keep his top fighters from fighting Floyd. That is why the Pac Man will never get his chance at Floyd and we will all be screwed.
Commissioner Floyd walked away from the millions of dollars. Manny would have f’d him up. Period.
LOL
hahaha your joking,slowing down the man is probably the fastest combo puncher in the world.
@ dom
too much pride at both side thats why the pac vs pbf will never happen. They have a chance and they blew it. As i said next to impossible
Fraud’s still gotta get past Mosley first. Then, of course, if he even shows up. My money’s on Fraud conjuring up an excuse to postpone the fight with an injury or illness, or better yet, legal issues. And even if the fight comes to fruition, Mosley will bring the pain to the point that Fraud will make those aforementioned excuses to avoid fighting Manny until Mid 2011. Again, if he shows up.
@ dom
dream on dude. The pacman vs mayweather will never happen. its next to impossible
Mr. True
Isn’t Shane Mosley 38 years old, he is not past his prime? Who is cherry pickin fights? Mayweather, never fought Cotto and Cotto beat Mosley. Why didn’t Mayweather fight Mosley 3 years ago, rather than retire? Mayweather came in overweight to a guy who never fought over 130 pounds in Marquez. By the way, Pacquaio fought De La Hoya about 15 months after PBF. Fought DLH into retirement, not by PBF but Manny. And how can you say Cotto wasn’t himself? Compare that fight to the Clottey fight, he was fighting the same, the reason he may not have looked as good was because he was against a better fighter in Manny!
Yeah he threw a good amount of punches shows a good stamina but the fact of the matter is there no point in throwing that many punches if your not doing any damage floyd may not throw that many punches but almost every punch lands.
Punch stat machine must have been on the blink then, becasue i thought he threw over 1200 punches in the fight.
maybe pacman tried boxing without his drugs which slowed him down lol
Mayfeather Pac beats both, Mayweather will fall behind as he throws his 20 punches a round. He comes strong in round 7 agnist tired fighters but his plan will back fire when Manny not tired in round 7. Mosley will have to use EPO to keep up with Pac
That’s what makes Manny so raw. He’s taken that fighting style from lightweight and he’s been using it ever since. With his speed and willingness to get in the pocket with you it don’t matter what style you use. If you don’t get order in the Ring you could get ktfo. That’s as old school as it gets. He’s what I would have imagened Mike Tyson to have been fully developed. A speed guy with power and quickness creating order from first bell. Floyd has that ability too. The difference is Floyd can adjust without instruction. If Roach makes a plan and Manny executes no problem. I would say he should have a crash course with a fighter or boxer that’s not going to quite. You have to match Manny when he takes it up a notch. If you don’t he can split that wig. No one should critisize a guy that fights every quarter for the last couple of years. I’m a fan of boxing and you need people like Manny. The type of fighter that comes around once every 20 years. Floyd is the same way. I don’t care if he’s Filipino. He’s a minority and all minorities need to stop hating on each other. That’s why I love boxing. At the end of the day its always a person of color who gets the glory.
Anon read your post you sound dumb
Has any one tried hitting an oak tree for 36 minutes and dance about it while doin it to me what pac done was the way in which to beat him and he did damed if you do damed if you don.t takes all sorts to make the world go round i suppose.
slow down? he threw more punches in that fight than any other fight in his career…is that what you consider slowing down?
I have 1 question for all of you with clottey’s style, What would Mayweather do to win against him?
Any takers? I keep hearing comments regarding this and that on Pacman’s fight with this armadillo style.
Would PBF win?
Ok, I don’t think he is slowing down. It’s just if you look at Mannys past fights his opponent always put the pressure on. Clottey was on D almost the whole time so of course he is going to get tired a whole 12 rounds.
Plus apparently he is running for office again so im pretty sure he wouldnt be working out as much.
i have to admit though, that fight worried me. if clottey had just tooken chances at the end, he would have won.
Ryan, falling on deaf ears to some of those posts.
I agree with you 100% these guys give a very talented fighter No credit at all.
Mr. True
You’ve been talking smack about Manny, now you r saying, Miguel Cotto, ODLH, Ricky Hatton, and Clottey are not respected fighters? Each one of them have been title holders each of them have great records, each of them should be respected. Eliminate the common fighters of PBF and Manny and then tell me who has PBF fought?
I agree. Paul WIlliams should stay at middleweight and chase Pavlik. I don’t think he could beat Pacquiao or Mayweather. I don’t trust his chin and he is a light puncher.
Realistic,
Plus Paul Williams isnt really a WW anymore. I mean, he says he could come down to that weight, but I think he would have a really tough time. He doesnt have the worlds best chin either. So if he drains himself and comes down to 147, I think even Mayweather could knock him out.
Is Pacquiao slowing down? Uh……no. He did what he had to do to beat Clottey. Against a fighter who engages more Manny will pour it on. Manny likes to be in a fight with a live opponent. Pacquiao would be at his best against someone like Mosely who will fight him. Against someone like Mayweather, Manny would have to make the fight just like he did with Clottey.
im not really a fan of pacman anymore but i dnt think he slowed down,i thot he was fast but he did throw the odd shot that looked slower than usual due to loading up so much to try and put a dent in clottey which didnt really work. but i do agree that he didnt look as ripped as usual,slightly more fat on his body for some reason. also maybe throwing 100 punches a round made some of shots slower at times
Oh no! Not GRAHAM again! lol
@REALISTIC
I hear you. I think Paul Williams is good not great, though. His best weapon is his awkward frame and strange toolset. I don’t think he looked that impressive against Martinez, and his first bout with Quintana showed he is beatable.
The problem with him fighting these short guys like Manny is that it’s just too much of a statistical mismatch. A 5’6″ guy taking on a 6’1″ lanky fighter is just going to present problems outside of pure skill. That is the main reason I think fighters are avoiding PW. It’s not his fault but it’s just a nightmare to train for and deal with is my opinion.
His own stature will likely prevent him from proving he can be a legendary fighter. It’s a shame but some guys don’t have the physique for boxing, or at least, to be that elite prize fighter getting a lot of fights.
…ryan
TO RYAN DUNN AND WOWZABEAM (a little off topic buy necessary)
i wonder what it is going to take for any writer to talk about PAUL WILLIAMS. I mean pacman and mayweather are not the only 2 fighters in the world and if you ask me PAUL WILLIAMS on his best day could possibly beat both PAC and MAY. Every one talks about how pacman ducked mosley or mayweather ducked pacman (bullsh*t). but no one has yet to mention that EVERYONE AND I MEAN EVERYONE is ducking PAUL WILLIAMS.
your thoughts………..
@namcap
Good point Manny just laid out a blue print how to beat Clottey. But I bet Mayweather will not fight him. It will be a great fight because Floyd will give the fans non-stop action.
@graham
when someone finds a ‘script receipt for hGH, or discovers a freezer full of Mannys frozen blood bags, you may as well say he beats women before his fights. But to answer your question…. NO, a win doesn’t mean anything if you cheat to attain it, whether Pacquiao or Mayweather, or ahem Mosley.
@haku
I bought and watched the May/ODLH fight and of course Mayweather landed more. But they were baby shots. Even the power shots didn’t have any zing to them. But that’s Mayweathers stock and trade. Oscar was busier all night, landing or not. And eking out a decision means getting past the judges. I didn’t see manny close on a single scorecard since his rematch with Marquez.
Did you? Please enlighten me. Because Manny just did what Mayweather shod do when he decides to circle, counter and jab…. And that is WIN EVERY ROUND!!
Totally different tactics but that’s what Manny did against the much bigger, much stronger Clottey. But would a guy like you or Chris Williams or Mr. True or Manuel Perez recognize that? Or are you guys too busy making bets against him no matter who he fights and then making fun of him after he hands them the worst losses of their careers?
…ryan
To all you guys out their either PBF fan or Manny fan I think you all will agree with me.
What about a match between Clottey and Floyd that would be something eh…
What if … what would Floyd do ???? Anybody?
Pacquiao threw 1200+ punches and compubox put him at 34% over all.Clottey threw only about 300+ that night and landed 37%.Hardly what i would call everything he threw,even as far as his low numbers go.
If mosley is that good! why did he loss to cotto?
Chris William what are you talking about…I watched the fights
I saw Pacman Fought Very well and Impressive speeds with powers,that why clottey didn’t thrown a punches and used Clamshell Defense,coz he afraid to K.O..chris Next time If you’re not Impress, Don’t watch the fights and don’t write a article about Pacquiao….
@sai
Actually he sang this song at Jimmy Kimmel show before Cotto fight.
But with original lyrics.
This is just for laughs. ‘Coz this forum has been flaming up with hate on both fighters.
Anyways, I will find something for Maywather’s fans.
@ Manny Sings
I would like to hear Manny sing this song heheheh…
Nice song by the way.
What a bias article. If you think Pacquiao is that weak, why not influence or convince Floyd to cut the bs and fight Pacquiao without all those unreasonable demands. Floyd should be able to beat Pac now.
Manny is the greatest boxer ever Floyd is very good but he hasnt faced cotto and he will have a hard time with mosley i think that mr true is soo dumb i just dont understand how he can say such dumb things Manny is the truth in the sport right now no doubt about it he will fight anyone like Ali and all the fighters from that time and if Floyd and Manny met in the ring the fight could go in any direction but the one with the most heart and passion has the best chance and that my friends is Manny
His defence isnt that good at all. Clottey caught the man with almost every shot he threw,. He wont be able to hit mayweather with them kind of body shots, mayweather doesnt stand straight like clottey and mayweather moves and dodges well, He wont be playing games with mayweather if they meet, cos hel end up on the canvas.
Chris williams is fool u shud b locked up i these crazy blogs
@ryan dunn
De La Hoya landed 122 of 587 total punches (21%) to 207 of 481 (43%) for Mayweather. De La Hoya was also busier but less accurate with his power punches, landing 82 of 341 (24%) to 138 of 241 power punches (57%) for Mayweather.
Now regardless of what one judge(who probably didnt like floyd) scored the fight how do you or anybody else who claimed to watch the fight say the fight was close or that floyd had any trouble at all with Oscar? Floyd toyed with Oscar all night. So, stop with this Floyd eked out a win crap….
Mayfeather,
Uh…right. I’m sure Pacquiao eats simple carbohydrates, high glycemic foods, right after he works out to restore glycogen. Most people that know about nutrition, Ariza included, know this. 50g simple carbs after workout. Plus it’s not “instantly converted to sugar,” rice isn’t HFC (high fructose corn syrup) it takes about an hour to process. It’s safe to say this guy burns a lot of calories in a day, I’m sure rice is the least of his worries.
What you think Michael Phelps eats Subway all day? Look up what he eats, then come back to me. Didn’t know we had “nutritionists” on this website as well…….
BTW, before you start bashing me, in college I took nutrition and other science courses, I was also a part time PT to help pay for school. So don’t go that route. Oh and Ryan, don’t even try buddy, it lands on deaf ears.
I absolutely agree with the writer. Pac must pack solid musles not flab body tissues. He needs to train his muscles not just running wild in the gym and eating out high amout of white rice.
White rice is a highly processed grain with almost no fiber that is converted into sugar as soon as you eat. It makes him fat and sloppy.
He needs to increase his mucles compactness just like Clottey. Look what he did in training is just aerobics and hitting an arnis stick to his skin. It’s pathetic.
He also needs someone to teach him how to dodge punches and improve his defense. Everytime he fights, he got beat up. Cotto beat him up and so Clottey did some heavy damage.
If he is still doing like this, Mayweather will beat him very badly and marked his face like ripe tomatoes. Mosley will put him sleep.
im not a pac fan at all , but i dont know how you can say the power and hand speed was not there , he looked destructive to me , get off the crack fool
Zelig. I think those three are one person.They are like clottey. They are just writing BS stuff to get paid.
Stupid… Why don’t u think PAC is winning.. N paying tha whole charter airplane 4 frickingggg 170 people..????! I guezzz! Is not steroids huh??
skills pay the bills in boxing, steroids don’t win fights,this not track,cycling,weightlifting,or bodybuilding
i think this site purposefully spews this anti-pacquiao BS just to increase its hits. There really is no reason to explain the flawed logic of so many writers in here: Williams, Lahr, Garduno.
@ Ryan Dunn
You say it best!
But where’s Mr not so true?
Finish watching the Pacquiao vs Clottey fight again!
Tried to see why people are saying that Pacquiao looked so impressive.
Pacquiao finally didnt make some one come down in weight and did fight a natural welterweight thats why he wasnt able to put damaged on Clottey.
With the exception of Ricky Fatton Pacquiao made both Cotto and De La Hoya come down in weight to face him. I
Anyways,
After watching it for the second time i was less impressed by Pacquiao performance over Clottey.
I paid attention to what Floyd Mayweather Jr said about Pacquiao lack of defense.
its true Clottey hit Pacquiao with clean punches when he did throw it was like he couldnt miss.
The funny thing is people said Manny PAcquiao boxed and step around Clottey … Its easy to do that when a fighter isnt firing back and throws 832 less punches than his you. Again its not Manny Pacquiao fault Clottey didnt come out to fight.
After Pacquiao throws his 3 or 4 punch combinations he brings his hands down. When he was throwing to the body he wasnt even sitting on the body punched he kind of lounged. also when Manny goes back and moves to the side he has his hands down and he gets hit, he goes back with his head up. These are things Floyd Mayweather already pointed out and will be able to use against Manny Pacquiao.
My bigges thing is there hasnt been a fighter since Juan Manuel Marquez that was able to exploit Manny Pacquiao weakness. Its not that Manny Pacquiao is unbeatable his last four opponents didnt have the style to beat him.
Look at the tapes and things that Flody pointed out and its true. A sharp shooter, smart, experienced, counter puncher, with a great jab, good defense and great foot work. Should make easy work of Manny Pacquiao.
Chris Williams has never been impressed with Pacquiao. He, Lahr, Perez and Garduno will never be impressed with Pacquiao no matter what happens. Even if he beats Kentucky Floyd Chicken, these guys will always find a way to downplay his achievements. I don’t see anything wrong with Pacquiao’s body or performance in the Clottey fight. In fact, Pacquiao showed the world how he can box non-stop for 12 rounds. In fact one commentator said that he believes Pacquiao can still go another 12 rounds.
isn’t it funny.. when all these ‘writers’ have to say is ‘we gonna eat crow tonight with a helping of humble pie cause we we’re wrong’.. instead ‘they’ keep on ‘attacking’.. and you guys knows who these ‘writers’ are.. maybe pacman shredded they’re ego so bad just like he did flomo that they just can’t accept it.. the ability to accept that ‘i’ve been wrong’ can’t be found with these ‘bloggers’.. so keep on hating.. hiding behind the anonymity of ‘handles’ is quite EXHILARATING, ain’t it?
1200 more punches not getting getting tired pacman can do that because hes stamina is great,, even mayweather cant do that punch every split second………………
This writer doesnt have any boxing iq whatsoever
First off pacquiao needs to continue to keep eating to maintain that weight and pacquaio is not getting slower thats just his same class b boxer skill
Stop Making him look like an old man by saying hes getting slower and needs to retire
FYI Mayweather is older than him and Mosley is 38 and theyre not retiring anytime soon so dont give him that pass to retire before he fights an ACTUAL fighter..
Excellent way to put it Zelig….
Ryan Dunn,
Pacquiao is not worth anything if he did all that by using PEDs is he?
It’s amazing that there are so many Manny haters…haha The only reason he got a little tired was because he threw a million punches. Mayweather will be overwhelmed with punches as well, so I don’t see him getting past Manny.
@Mrs True
So you’re a fan of Fraud, i mean Floyd Jr? Well, instead of knocking Pacquiao here on this blog, why don’t you help your idol look for his balls? He seems to have lost them. Then come back here when Floyd has the guts to fight the Freak of Nature”
Ryan-
Great points, unfortunately most people on this site are not subjective enough to fully grasp the strength of your argument.
When you are a ´hater,´whether that be anti pac or anti mayweather win/lose or draw they will always make some ridiculous argument as to why the should have won or lost or why they didn´t impress or looked bad in winning or blah blah blah. If you are a true fan of boxing you can easily see Manny and Mayweather and Mosley are all great fighters in their own right, if you aren´t willing to give credit where credit is due there is no really sense arguing. Mayweather has had a great run and what Pacman has been able to do in numerous weight divisions is just astonishing, if people can´t honestly recognize their achievements what´s the point?
I don’t know what it is about the forum, but some of your writers just don’t get it. Pacquiao just handed Clottey the most lopsided loss of his career and you’re criticizing Manny’s performance.
Who cares if Manny had a few bruises. He was never seriously hurt as he takes a punch extremely well. He actually took a worse punishment from Cotto. Manny is an explosively offensive fighter who is willing to take a few counterpunches to get in his combos. Clottey’s face was unscathed because he covered it the entire fight, but his body was punished heavily. If you rewatch the fight, Manny actually avoided a significant number of Clottey’s counterpunches. However, Clottey is a lot bigger and stronger than Manny and it’s to be expected that his landed punches would do damage. If Clottey opened up to seriously try to win the fight, he would have taken a beating just like Cotto, Hatton and DLH did. It’s virtually impossible to KO someone who is hiding behind his arms all night.
Have none of you guys ever watched boxing before Manny or PBF? You guys all have probably never seen Clottey fight before right? Clottey covers up and waits for opportunities to counter his opponents. Manny was just going at too fast a rate for him to find his counter opportunities. Manny opened up to his punches to create some opportunities for himself to hit Clottey. Clottey does hit hard though and he’s showed that in his fights against Margarito, Judah, and Cotto. You all should just appreciate Manny’s ability to go at that rate against a top WW that PBF or Mosley would not give a chance at fighting because the risks outweigh the benefits when fighting Clottey (unknown, but still a threat).
That being said Manny vs PBF needs to happen because I don’t believe the fans of both sides saying it’s going to be easy for their fighter. It’s going to be the most difficult fight for both of these fighters to date. Given PBF has to get past Mosley and Mosley is no joke. So if PBF beats Mosley easily than Manny will have his hands full against PBF and will probably lose a UD, but if PBF has trouble with Mosley or even loses to Mosley then PBF shouldn’t get in the ring with Manny. Mosley represents the cream of the crop at WW and he should be the one that PBF and Manny have to beat for the crown at WW. Mosley could pull out the biggest upsets in boxing history if he beats the two most talked about boxers in the same year.
he william.,can do math too righ? 1,200 punches 180 secound x12 = 1 punch every 2 secounds
ding dong williams ,write what you see, you only seems as a amateur bogger trying to understand boxing.
HAHAH PAC is only good when he has all the advantages or he beats up on a C fighter, thats why PAC only needed his C game, oh and where was the promised knock out hahha
Pacman did biatch SLAPPED Clottey for 12 AGONIZING rounds….
and all Clottey could do is blamed on the Banku and Okro stew…What that…
Getting biatch slapped for over 1200 punches is pretty impressive to me….
@ Diesel
Can you tell Floyd to just shut up and fight? So we can have the fight that we all want to see.
And who has the advantage in the first place? The smaller PacMan compared to the bigger Floyd?
I like to see Mayweather fight Clottey down the road…not gonna happen…Mayweather is scared of Clottey…
And kissmybrownass tell ya mum to get of hattons d**K
Good observation. That means Manny’s C game is good enough to beat a strong welterweight. I know you like Floyd, although your Floyd is good against a lightweight like Marquez.
@ Mr true not so true…
…”And nomatter how many preformace enhancing drugs he takes he’ll never be able to take Mayweather or Mosley.”
Who says PacMan will not take on Mayweather? I guess it’s only you and Mayweather of course! The self proclaim P4P King is afraid of Pacquiao that’s why he is demanding a random blood/urine testing to get in the skin of Pacquiao.
Ask Mayweather if he wants to fight Pacquiao and he would always say…”My sport is a clean sport…blah2x…”
MAN all you PAC lovers are FLOYD haters, why is it that evertime i hear a PAC FAN they are always dissing FLOYD, honestly i think FLOYD would beat PAC hands down, Negotiations fell because PAC got all his demands met, but he would not let FLOYD make any demands and when FLOYD was standing firm with his demands PAC ran because he wants all the advantages. regardless i think FLOYD would beat PAC
Yeah Pacquiao was totally out of shape. He only threw over 1,100 punches. How weak is that?!?!
so youre a prize trainer now??????????
has not fought descent fighters um how bout taking the two men they both fought regardless of weight and age or previous losses. becuz i know all that will be your excuse. fighters are fighters no matter what they know what to expect getting into the ring. with that being said. when manny dismantles mayweather or mosley, whomever wins come may 1st, then you will say either one of them is not descent. ill just take a page out of ur book. im gonna dismiss this whole fight on may first and say mosley loses cuz he is old. and he was never a fighter in floyds range cuz he has been beat! does that even sound right! as a matter of fact floyd would beat ali
Manny pacquiao fan: this time before you reply leave coulour and nationality out.
haha don’t be so hasty mate becase im a fan of Mayweather im black is that what your saying. Mate i dont cair what colour a fighter is he’s ither good or his not im British a hatton fan but i still new Mayweather was going to beat him and i didnt deny it so its not to do with were Pacquiao is from its to do with his addiction to PEDS.
yea if you throw 100 punches per tround i think ud be tired too! duh
Im a mayewather fan…but this writer is kind of trippin. We already know Pac has a brawlwr style and not a defensive style. What we do not know is what will happen when and if they fight. I believe Floyds style and smarts will win him the fight but all Im sayin is that Pac did good against Clottey.You have to acknowledge his power, agression and nonstop attacking. If he was tired in between rounds, he did not show it when the bell rang. Clottey’s style and ability was not on Pac’s level at all. Let’s be real… Clottey just wanted to survive and not take punishment. Floyd’s style poses problems for Pac. That is real, but Pac is no joke either. I am amazed how he overpowers bigger athletes. Lying like Arum is pitiful, no need to get on your knees like him.
Mr. False,
You know why Pacman fans are passionate about him. It’s called Pride. R U proud to be a Black Man? R U proud of the accomplishments of Black athletes? How many Filipino athletes are out there? Not many, many are mixed racially. So yeah I’m proud he represents Filipinos. He’s a better icon athlete than Mayweather. Have you ever seen Mayweather in a Nike commercial? No, because he garnishes NO respect.
Hey Mr. True.
What do you call, lidoderm in the gloves? And where is the proof for PED? He’s NEVER, EVER failed a test to this point. Blood or Urine! You’re saying 7 years ago when he was kicking Marco antonio Barrerra’s, Erik Morales’s arse that they had “sophisticated PED’s back then too! You can’t give Pacman on once of respect can you? As far as defense goes, Clottey had a great defense, who ended up winning?
There must be alot of idiots that write for this site and the people that comment are just as ignorant. Chris Williams must be a Floyd nut hugger as many of the writer are on this site.
How can Pacqiao be slowing down after throwing 100 punches per round. Then you talk about his poor defense. Unlike Floyd Pacquiao is willing to take chances in the ring to entertain the fans especially when the opponent is unwilling to engage.
This site is like Fox News for Republicans. Always skewing the truth and the followers continue to follow. I am not a fan of Floyd or Pacquiao but I am a fight fan. Stop drawing on opinions and being one sided. It would be a good fight because they are good fighters. The answers are only in the ring.
mr true…oh like what every body said about cotto how his gonna knock out pac.. right.oh yah PAC Q….
@ pac fam im with u bro…they love ayflower too much,too bad ayflower just too scared of pacman coz he knows his about to get knock out cold….and mr true pac Q.
@ manny pacquiao fan : please don’t cry because of my prevous comment all im saying is pacquiao is a straight fighter with abit of extra power and good speed, but his defensive game is laughable if he went in the ring with mosley and fought with a guard like that he would get his head took off. And nomatter how many preformace enhancing drugs he takes he’ll never be able to take Mayweather or Mosley.
Yes, Pacquiao is starting to slow down.
Floyd Mayweather should not be scared of fighting him now.
Floyd will have an easy fight.
Read that Floyd?
Come on Floyd, FIGHT!
haha, this Chris Williams guy just doesn’t stop- his whole life revolves around HATING on Pacquiao. How is a guy winning every round, or winning all but one, out-throwing his opponent by 3X, and forcing his opponent into a turtle shell and fearing throwing punches because of his speed… how are these signs of someone slowing down?
His speed, power, ring generalship, footwork, movement were better than ever… Clottey was just shell shocked:
“I’m Very Strong, but this guy(Pacquiao) is so Very, Very Fast,” said Clottey.
“Manny Pacquiao will Give Anyone he Fights a Lot of Problems, A LOT,” added Clottey.
Yeah, sounds like Pac is slipping. How about another pointless 2,000 word essay doing nothing but make you look like a hack, seems to be your specialty.
Why r all u writers, Dave Lahr, Esteban and now you Chris Williams have such a hard on for finding what’s wrong with Manny? You guys always, always find a way to bring PACMAN down. Why? R u guys jealous for what he’s accomplished, let’s see you idiots do what he’s done. Oh that’s right you guys are probably fat and lazy and probably have never put on a pair of boxing gloves before in your life. You three are LOSERS and trow in Manuel Perez!
Manny looked WEAKER, THINNER AND SLOWER. maybe it was the STEROIDS. he trying to get off before the big fight with Maywather. Guess what? Freddie roach gona get paid off eihter way. Clottey was a live punching bag for Pac. Maybe he got paid and it was fixed but it was A HORRIBLE HORRIBLE FIGHT. What a disgrace to ghana and boxing period. I didnt wana watch it, even though fight was free on the net. Ur right the guy can never beat likes of Mosley and Floyd. He just trying to clean up before the next fight. What a shame.
Your article is not even believable. It feels more like your just trying to create controversy for hits than trying to be constructive opinion. Pacquiao is a Super lightweight fighting in the welterweight class. Any decent welterweight sould be able to inflict that kind of damage on Pacquiao and Clottey is a Middleweight fighting at welter. Mayweather has about the same punch output as Clottey and his punch is all about looking good rather that being effective. Just look at what he couldn’t do against Marquez.
Hey Mr True do you know how steroids work? They build up bulk, not speed! Looks like you are just as ignorant as the writer. He threw 1200 punches don’t you think you might get a little tired from that? Why does this sight HATE Manny Pacquiao so much? Show some respect! Clottey, Cotto, Hatton, De La Hoya, were all supposed to be bigger than he was and supposed to destroy him. Look at Dave Lahr said Clottey was going to beat him to a pulp. You guys literally suck as writers.
without the PROPER STEROIDS. PACQUIO LOOKED WEAKER, THINNER AND SLOWER. i knew it.. they tryin to get off the drugs to fight the big fight with maywaether and try to complain pacquiao was clean all around. Clottey was a live punching bag. maybe he got paid to be fixed. either way fight was horrible. the few hits that clotty did get in really messed up Pac in the face. again HORRIBLE HORRIBLE FIGHT. What a overhyped chump from filipeen
Is this a joke? Pacquiao’s win, albeit boring, was clinical, if Clottey had gone into the fight with any intention of trying to win, rather than just save face, he would have opened himself up, no doubt leading to a more convincing win to Pacqiao. This was evident in the fight against Miguel Cotto, someone who undeniably had the size and power advantage on Manny, but left with a hiding due to his ability to counter
You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about!!! Both to the poster and Mr true.
what are you talking about to be a better fighter? are you kidding me? he’s the best fighter on the planet. set yourself straight.
Yes, Pacquiao is starting to slow down.
Floyd Mayweather should not be scared of fighting him now.
Floyd will have an easy fight.
Read that Floyd?
Come on Floyd, FIGHT!
he’s not slowing down he just didn’t take steroids in his last fight thats all, thats why he didnt preform aswell as he usually does.