Is Mayweather’s precious “0″ a monkey on his back?
March 10th, 2010
By Gary E G: The one and only controversial win in Floyd Mayweather’s 40 fight unbeaten career was his bout against Jose Luis Castillo in 2002. Many who saw the fight thought that Castillo was robbed and the few minutes leading up to the official announcement is the only time I have seen Mayweather look truly worried in a boxing ring. But inexplicably he scored a wide unanimous decision and after he won the rematch fair and square all was forgiven and largely forgotten. But how would the man and more importantly the boxer have changed if Castillo had gotten his just desserts?
It is so late in his career now and he has built his whole persona around the fact that none could conquer him, that at this stage defeat could possibly destroy Mayweather’s confidence as a boxer but his fight with Castillo was long before he became a superstar and if he had of lossed that night might he have become a true fighter, loved by the people purely for his skills and not despised for his attitude, like a certain Filipino who knows what it’s like to get knocked on his ass.
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@dsp
“Its legal in nevada so im not calling him a cheat but thats how he uses xylocaine”
Whether legal or illegal as long as you give yourself an advantage that’s still a cheat. Cheating involves morality, it’s illegal to park your car but doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
@JAYSMOOTH
There’s no FACTS on your statement, they’re just merely a personal opinion!
Facts are the results of rigorous scientific research with proven evidence.
Think first before you post
i rather see a fighter with losses and won fights with the cream of the crop in boxing than mayweather’s ’0′.i calculate that 95% of floyd’s fights were never heard off opponents!numbers dont lie but behind those number lies deception and pretension!you are not the greatest fighter that ever lived!you are the greatest pretender that ever lived!
@JAYSMOOTH
“Another want article reader and not will to look up facts> if you were really a boxing fan you would know that when Floyd fought Castillo, he was trying to knock out fighters. he wasn’t as defensive minded as he is now. He was still raw on his skills and wanted to try to KO fighters. but now his defense is superd. Look at Castillo, he just got KO by Hatton.”
Based on your statement, that can be applied to Manny too. He simply has improved – NO PED. PERIOD! Therefore the last Marquez fight won’t be the same today if they meet for the 3rd time. Why can’t people accept that?
ok floyd fans here’s to debunk your arguments:
1. manny afraid of needles
-manny never ever ever ever said that period! only arum or koncz said that and seriously your tatoo argument doesnt even hold water, tatoos are done on pacs free tym!there’s no big fight coming up, no worrying if handicapped!
2. manny doesnt want random drug test
-fact: manny has never said that, all he said is he doesnt want blood tests taken close to the fight as he FELT he got weak during the morales fight, it was ARUM and ROACH who STRONGLY oppose the 14 day window, for all we know PAC would have agreed to 18 or 16 days, ROACH argument is he dont want to bow to floyds demands, no one is bigger than sports, ARUM says it’s harassment
3.why he walk away from 40 mil, is he guilty?
-why risk losing by feeling weak and get 40mil in return. It’s not ALL about the money, manny’s carrying 90miliion hopes AND DREAMS of filipinos, losing and disappointing their hopes is not worth it! this is pinoy pride were talking about, pinoy would go to absurd lengths to defend their honor and pride. PAC is a hero in the phil, 0% crime rate on fight nights. family feasts and enemies put aside differences when he fights, People die of heart attacks when he fights.So you people should understand why pacnuts and pactards defend him so much
4.if he has nothing to hide, why he dont agree on my terms
-cant you just respect that fact that he dont like taking blood close to the fight, why willfully impose something he’s not comfortable with that’s based on PURE suspicion..what if i suspect you being gay and to prove you’re not I impose you to s*ck my d*ck and if you get a hard on then you’re gay and youll get 40 mil $, i just want to level the playing field, who knows, during fight night you grab my balls, that’s how ridiculous floyd’s demand is, demanding on pure suspicion and throwing ridiculous condition.
5. its just a few teaspoon of blood
-random is random, anytime, anyday,any frequency 5 times consecutive is more than a teaspoon, you’ll be waken up at mid night, you know how inconvenient and disrupting it is and you know deep inside you arent even taking drugs, that’s big impact on your psyche
6.PAC must be on PEDS as he went up weight and demolishing fighters
-fact PAC has mostly been dehydrating himself and comes to 145lbs at fight night so he didnt actually gain significant weight. his accomplishments are a COMBINATION of a lot of things, ARIZA conditioning improving manny footwork and ring generalship, ROACH strategy improving right hand and fighting smart and calm and measure fights, tell me, CAN PEDS do that?? all you have to do is watch and compare manny’s fights, he WAS a 1 dimensional fighter before and yet he’s knocking out top notch quality fighters
FACE it floyd fans! the only 1 thing that supports your suspicion is PACS refusal to give in to floyds ridiculous demand and dont even compare that to 10mill $ penalty,the penalty has a very valid basis, FLOYD has done it and purposedly went overweight, yeah PURPOSELY, didnt even make any effort to trim the weight after asking marquez to go up 2 divisions, and dont say it happens to all fighters, FRAUD purposely did it, from day one he had no intention to make weight, DAN rafael has documented all that, fraud submitted paperworks to the commision so late to avoid fines, look it up
CONCLUSION: both camps are to blame but more on floyd, pac could have agreed to 18 or 16 days, could have convinced arum or roach to give in a bit but roach and arum knows fight of this magnitude needs more time for training and promotion
no one wants to lose, TRUE! but athletes should also be prepared if they lose.
will Mayweather embrace with his opponent after he lose? if yes, that would be surprisingly good. if no, that would be disappointing although understandable.
@ JAYSMOOTH
personality may affect the athlete’s performance.
what do you think will happen to Mayweather if he lose? will he still get better? based on how he brag himself today and how majority of boxing fans treat him, i doubt he will. but if he can, he may need to do a huge change of himself.
on the other hand, Pacquiao who already experienced defeats still managed to get better. the same goes with Mosley. unlike the other boxers, such as Cotto and Hatton, after a big lost, it badly affects their career, including the impression of their fans.
wowz,
yeah i kinda gave up commenting and probably wont start again. just every now and then. just got sick of trying to hav gud debate with guys that hav no sense.
@ sugarscott….
big draw huh? what big ppv’s does he have besides his fights with ODLH, Hatton, and Marquez? your not gonna tell me he did all that by himself, right?
Josh, I’m a Floyd fan. And I’m none of those things you describe. I’m a dedicated, hard-core boxing enthusiast, and have been for well over 30 years. I think if you can’t appreciate, or at least acknowledge, Floyd’s skills, you should find a new sport to follow, because you clearly don’t understand boxing. While the blood and guts warriors are exciting to watch, a boxer of Floyd’s caliber who can figure out an opponent and then pick apart (without taking any heavy shots in return) is truly a rare and beautiful thing to watch.
lets get this over with pac is not the draw in boxing 40.000 seats only in a 100,000 arena. if thats tyhe case then joe calzaghe was or is or could be the real draw in boxing as i witnesed him demolish kessler live in cardiff and there were 57,000 there so for a guy whom a whole nation loves blah blah blah cant even get 50,000 then theres a problem, plus floyd is the real draw in boxing today, his ppv buy numbers are double pacs if floyd fights he gets at least 10mill guaranteed, now nobody on this site even the fake pac fans who dont even like boxing but have leapt onto the pac bandwagon farce, can tell me with a straight face and say that pac draws those numbers or earns those pennys, i dont god dam think so so get over your selfs retards hes a nobody who beat old men in barrera and morales after they had had wars, then he JUICED up big time and still beeat another old man plus 2 guys who were overrated and never that good anyway. but floyds the same hes a juicewr and only fights when he wants and handpicks guys or waits till their 38. peace out
JAYSMOOTH
@Pete says about fight Paul Williams
Why would he fight Paul Williams and why should he fight Williams when he isn’t a true Welterweight. None of his last fights over the past 2 years haven’t been at Welterweight. I think Paul Williams has enough competetion in Light Middleweight division. He can fight Foreman, Spinks or Centron why would he go down to fight Floyd. Oh, I know why..YEah its because Floyd is MONEY…It doesn’t matter how you look at it, he is a human MONEY machine.
Posted March 11, 2010
@ jaysmooth……. he should fight paul. why wouldn’t he? you say paul williams isn’t a true welterweight, right? …………was juan manuel marquez a true welter? they could make that fight @ 154. Didn’t may fight Oscar @ 154? How is a fight with paul different?
Jaysmooth we know your Floyd cause you post 24-7 in his defense. If your not Mayweather get a dam job you society leech. I still would laugh my ass if his dumb ass goes to jail. If you didn’t understand the joke, him and OJ can be prison celly’s.
I agree witj Jay Smooth their are enough great fighters around that Floyd can fight that can establish him as the best of this era with out fighting Pacquiao. You got Paul Williams, Sergio Martinez, Tim Bradley, and he’s already moving in that direction by fighting Mosley. I think If Pacquiao retires after the Clottey fight he would be retiring before actually conquering the welter weight division.
Who are these last remaining hardcore Floyd fans? I bet that 99.9% of them are either crackheads, uneducated, racists, bums, dellusional, lunatics, cowards, just mouth no brain, wanna be’s, retard, braggart but no balls, back stubbers, bitter, envious of pac, underachievers, losers, irrational, steroid users or dealers, floyd ba*lls tickl*er, and most af all Floyd jr Steroid and Xylocane suppliers. Poor Floyd, you don,t get a lot of good fans. Unlike Pac, he has bigtime fans , from hollywood celebrities, proffesional athletes, well known world figures the likes of former Presidents of the United States etc..and UFC president Dana white who by the way is going to watch Pac live at Cowboy Stadium in Texas that is now reported to be already soldout ticket.
PAC is the draw in Boxing NOT Floyd simply because Pac is way more POPULAR and a lot better and FAN to watch than Floyd.
FLOYD is getting more and more pathetic everyday and it’s getting worse, he could end up inevitably in mental hospital if he keeps envying Pac.
A lot of people now think Floyd is MENTALLY retarded when he keeps anouncing that he is the greatest boxer that ever lived. There is never a normal person that lift his own chair and start BRAGGING when he himself alone validates himself to be the greatest unless you are the son of an addict or steroid user.
If I could think of the worst term used for the most disgusting boxer ever that walk in this planet, I would pick Floyd to be categorized as a stinking PIG.
only floyd knows if hes 0 plays on hes mined.. watchin him fght imo in the ring only thing on hes mined is gettin round wats in front of him with gd skills sharp thinkin.. ppl say floyd has hand pick hes fghts /tht mght b true .?. but nun of them where st fghters.. an that tells me floyd is a gr8 fghter an a gd promotor bcuz thats wat all promotors do hand pick gd fghts tht there fghter will win two make money and a name in boxing … dont get me wrong floyd defo talks sht. but ever one does but not every one is on tv gettin eyeballed word for word, any one would slippin /sht happens/ imo hbo should make pound for pound belt </ there can only b one of them/ and bow down and give it two floyd. RESPECT THIS FGHTER FOR HES SKILLS IN THE RING.. TRUST ME ASK MOSLEY ON MAY THE 2,3 …..
@jaysmooth – all that you just said about floyds improvement could be said about manny pacquiao. But according to floyd you start off good and end up good you dont improve much over the journey. Manny was beating hall future hall of famers when he was an off balance, one dimensional, one handed fighter. Since then hes improved so much with his balance and footwork and has developed so many more punches with both hands. Can you please tell floyd thats the reason hes so good these days, not fing PED’s. Floyd can improve and climb many weights over his career winning and looking impressive as he does so, but if anyone else does it, it must be the old A-Side Meth working for em. .
@jaysmooth – all that you just said about floyds improvement could be said about manny pacquiao. But according to floyd you start off good and end up good you dont improve much over the journey. Manny was beating hall future hall of famers when he was an off balance, one dimensional, one handed fighter. Since then hes improved so much with his balance and footwork and has developed so many more punches with both hands. Can you please tell floyd thats the reason hes so good these days, not fuing PED’s. Floyd can improve and climb many weights over his career winning and looking impressive as he does so, but if anyone else does it, it must be the A-Side Meth working for em.
losin a fght will change anyone just look back in boxin history..or ask a fght that has lost. i agree with u that floyd might not go in for the kill like us fans wnna see. imo floyd could of / tko,ko jmm but dint for good reason/ mosley will lose two floyd just like the rest did and will . in time when floyd has left boxin ppl will really see wat he is imo the real deal one in a million in side a ring..time tells all ali robison tyson etc we still talk about ths gr8 fghters two day on papper video games etc there name will never die /if ur gr8 ur name never dies tht is a fact/
@lex fugitive – mayweather uses xylocaine in training now to prevent him from injuring his hands during training you say??? that is a ridiculous point. Why would someone take a painkiller that numbs their hands to prevent injury? It would numb the hands meaning that he wouldnt be able to tell if he is injuring his hands during training as they would be numb and hed only be able to tell after it wears off, leaving him open to further damadging his hands in training by punching on oblivious to any injury he may have sustained. You and everyone knows he dont use xylocaine in any training. He uses xylocaine to numb his hands in fights so he can fight through aquired hand pain in the fight, giving him an unfair advantage against his opponent who presumable is not using xylocaine. Its legal in nevada so im not calling him a cheat but thats how he uses xylocaine.
@RED FF35 says:
March 11, 2010 at 1:55 am
Castillo exposed floyd PERIOD. He’s been defeated He ain’t that good. He’s defense is overrated. Castillo proved that!
Another want article reader and not will to look up facts> if you were really a boxing fan you would know that when Floyd fought Castillo, he was trying to knock out fighters. he wasn’t as defensive minded as he is now. He was still raw on his skills and wanted to try to KO fighters. but now his defense is superd. Look at Castillo, he just got KO by Hatton..
waltz says:
March 10, 2010 at 9:55 pm
at least, Pacquiao has an experience that Mayweather don’t have. Pacquiao experienced a defeat, not to mention a knockdown. but in spite that, he managed to overcome the humiliation, achieve great recognitions, and maintain his humility.
in the other hand, Mayweather has a unique experience. he won all his match. everyone wants to do that, to be perfect. unfortunately, this achievement drove him to a rough personality……………………………………………….
Boxing is entertainment.. Why should he respect a guy who is about to try to beat his brains out. Every sport has it. I guess Peyton and Lebron have personality issue as well because they didn’t want to shake hands of there opponents after they lost. the Colts wanted to go undefeated if they could bc NO ONE WANTS TO LOOSE PERIOD> regardless of what sport you are in. Everytime you go out you want and expect you win. You dont think well i should loose this one so i can be humbled or become a better boxer. That is not the way true athletes think
waltz says:
March 10, 2010 at 9:55 pm
at least, Pacquiao has an experience that Mayweather don’t have. Pacquiao experienced a defeat, not to mention a knockdown. but in spite that, he managed to overcome the humiliation, achieve great recognitions, and maintain his humility.
in the other hand, Mayweather has a unique experience. he won all his match. everyone wants to do that, to be perfect. unfortunately, this achievement drove him to a rough personality……………………………………………….
Boxing is entertainment.. Why should he respect a guy who is about to try to beat his brains out. Every sport has it. I guess Peyton and Lebron have personality issue as well because they didn’t want to shake hands of there opponents after they lost. Sit the Colts wanted to go undefeated if they could bc NO ONE WANTS TO LOOSE PERIOD> regardless of what sport you are in. Everytime you go out you want and expect you win. You dont think well i should loose this one so i can be humbled or become a better boxer. That is not the way true athletes think.
@Frankly says:
March 10, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Being Undefeated has a nice sound to it when you are formally introduced in the ring before the fignt. But it is how you are recognised in the boxing world that would mark your legacy. The title of “FIGHTER OF THE DECADE” speaks volumes than having a “O” record on your resume………………………………………………..
Yes, you are exactly right being fighter of the decade has a nice ring to it when you are announced. But just like Barry Bonds is the homerun kings he is also has an astric beside his name because of the suspicion of PEDs. Manny is the same way but he had an opportuity to prove he was clean and he turned it down. He has 2 astrics to be exact. the second astric is place because the true P4P champion gave you the P4P title when he retired and you did’t beat him and earn it and now that he has come back to claim it and you don’t want to fight him. Also the last two years of the decade Floyd on fought 1 times so he didn’t qualify for Boxer of the decade bc he didn’t put in a decade of work..simple math and logic.
@waltz says:
March 10, 2010 at 9:55 pm
at least, Pacquiao has an experience that Mayweather don’t have. Pacquiao experienced a defeat, not to mention a knockdown. but in spite that, he managed to overcome the humiliation, achieve great recognitions, and maintain his humility.
on the other hand, Mayweather has a unique experience. he won all his match. everyone wants to do that, to be perfect. unfortunately, this achievement drove him to a rough personality……………………………………………….
Boxing is entertainment.. Why should he respect a guy who is about to try to beat his brains out. Every sport has it. I guess Peyton and Lebron have personality issue as well because they didn’t want to shake hands of there opponents after they lost. St the Colts wanted to go undefeated if they could bc NO ONE WANTS TO LOOSE PERIOD> regardless of what sport you are in. Everytime you go out you want and expect you win. You dont think well i should loose this one so i can be humbled or become a better boxer. That is not the way true athletes think.
@Dre00 says: about having 5-6 loses
I think you can still be a champion and legend with 5-6 loses. Comancho was a legend, Champion and Hall 0f Famer. Sweet Pea may have lost 5-6 times but boy was he great. IF you have fought 50 somehting fights you can stand to lose 5-6 fights. But i agree no one wants to lose and should accept losing as normal.
@asif says:
March 10, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Floyd wants to be great and he is but he will never be an icon unless he fights manny. IF he beats him people will recognise greatness
Lol.. so Pacquaio is the greatest of all time. Floyd can beat a combination of fighters without fighing Manny and solidify his position as the best of this era. In my eyes him beating Shane has a great reward in the boxing world than beating Manny. Manny is hype and don’t have the big named fighters like Floyd and Shane, he was in the place at the right time when Floyd Retire. If you can recall when Floyd retired, he was voted Ring Magazine Boxer of the year. Manny won Boxer of the YEar, the 2 years Floyd was retired. So, that doesn’t carry alot of weight n my eyes bc the True Champion retired and was never beaten.
@wowzabean says
Rocky Marciano was undefeated. Was he a cherry picker or dodged fighers as well. Who do you know whats to loose period. I bet if Jordan or KObe had there way, they would have like to finish a season 82-0 but they know that isn’t likely.
If you are a sports guy, the UCONN huskies women Basketball Team is undefeated, do you think they want to loose a game bc it will humble or make them better. They have been crushing teams by an average of 25 pts. (72 wins and counting)
@wowzabean says:
March 10, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Dre00,
I don’t know………history! You f*ckn idiot. Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Federer, Tiger Woods, Brett Favre, all the greats haven’t won 100% of the time, and those are just examples from sports. I’d give you a history lesson of other important persons, but I doubt you’re educated.
You are soooo freaking funny. How are you going to compare a TEAM sport to an INDIVIDUAL sport. In tennis and Golf you deal with weather, terrain, different Playing surfaces and other outside things that Boxing doesn’t. How many matches have Fededera played and how many Golf tournments have Tiger Players in ALOT. These guys play seasons which consist of numberous games so you are subject to loses..Be real and quit trying to find reasons to attack FLOYD. By any means he is ot perfect and he has alot of flaws but respect what he has accomplished so far. Maybe May 1 he will get that one lost all of you haters have been waiting on. Me personally, i dont think it will happened but thats my opinion.
@Pete says about fight Paul Williams
Why would he fight Paul Williams and why should he fight Williams when he isn’t a true Welterweight. None of his last fights over the past 2 years haven’t been at Welterweight. I think Paul Williams has enough competetion in Light Middleweight division. He can fight Foreman, Spinks or Centron why would he go down to fight Floyd. Oh, I know why..YEah its because Floyd is MONEY…It doesn’t matter how you look at it, he is a human MONEY machine.
Now, can we atleast agree on something? The past is the past and we can not change the past, claims are claims and we have seen how difficult it is to convince both sides (Floyd and Packman on the other hand.)Reality, fortunately is before us. Pacman meets Cotto and Floyd meets Sugar. We can also agree that both Pacman and Floyd are the best so they should be able to beat the other fighters pitted against them. Finally, we will have Floyd and Pac meeting before end of year. After these scheduled fights, the picture will be clearer as to who is the master of the game and we will see who refuses to fight and what the reasons will be and we can tell then who the problem is because the atmosphere will be different from what it has been. It will happen and the best pound for pound champion will be known by all by end of this year come what may!
@Brusa says:
Floyd has not cherried pick anyone. he has fought the best competetion available in every weight class. You can’t look at the guys and there record now and compare them to how they were when Floyd beat the years ago. He fought Genaro Hernandez who was a hell of a boxer during the time when Floyd and Oscar Came through. He only had two loses when he retired and those two loses where to Floyd and Oscar. what about Angel Manfredy who in 1998 was one of the best boxers in super Featherweight division. Floyd destroyed and defended his WBC belt seven consecitive times which included a victory agains UNDEFEATED Diego Corales who was a great up and coming boxer. He also went on the defeat Carlos Hernandez who was as skilled as it get during this time in the division, he was the first person to floor mayweather. Then he went on to defeat Castillo twice. Yeah you can say one was controversial but so was the first Marquez vs Pacquiao. thats boxing you have judges who look for different things..Then he went on to beat Henry Brusless and DeMarcus Corley within 7 months of each other at 140. If you can remember DeMarcus Corley had great hand speed and power and Floyd beat him convincingly and Brusless was a tough gritty Puerto Rican fighters and Floyd Knocked him out. Then he went on to beat Auturo Gatti someone with the heart of a lion and would bang with anybody and Floyd Stopped him. Baldimore and Judah was two of the best in there divison when he fought them.
So, I asked who has he dodged? Please don’t say Paul Williams, Cotto or Marguarito bc all of these guys had no face base or were they a big money attraction. They all were also trying to prove there worth in the division. So, for Floyd to take the fight would not have been good financially and as we know Floyd is all about the “MONEY”.
so PLEASE help me understand how and who Floyd dodged?
i havent even read this article before commenting but yes his 0 is a real monkey on his back. Hes so keen to keep it as his whole legacy relies on it. People will always accuse him of cherry picking oppenents and avoiding some of the bigger tougher opponents and his response has always been 40 have tried and 40 have failed refering to his unbeaten record. I believe if hed already had a loss the Pacquiao fight would be this weekend. Im also sure that if mosley beats mayweather , then pacquaio will not have a hard time signing a fight with floyd after he fights mosley himself. But if mayweather beats mosely like is most likely then negotiations will be as hard if not harder than before. Pac has been beaten so he has nothing to lose by being defeated by mayweather. People will still praise him as a small man taking on bigger opponents, Whereas if Mayweather loses to Pacquaio then he will be taunted as a man who ducked some tough fighters untill he finally took on one and fell short. In his eyes the money hed make aint worth the chance of losing his 0 and the massive damadge to his legacy. If Manny loses he can still be considered the fighter of the era. If Mayweather loses nobody could put him as the fighter of the era ahead of Pacquiao. Damn that 0 cos we know may never see the biggest fight of the era.
@Bob says:
March 10, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Mayweathers friend is arrested for the Vegas shooting if convicted he faces 92 years. The Vegas Police is investagating how much is Mayweather is involved. Who wants to bet that Mayweather’s friend snithches him off for less time. I would laugh my ass off if Mayweather ends up with OJ
Idiot you are so, garbage. Where in the Hell does OJ fit into this conversation. unless you are a racist, why would you even compare or mention these to guys. WE are not talking about Floyds personal life. If you want to get into all that go and get on some gossip blog and go at it with all the women who do that.
Castillo exposed floyd PERIOD. He’s been defeated He ain’t that good. He’s defense is overrated. Castillo proved that!
it was a very close fight but mayweather won the 1st castilio fight dawg ..by 2 rounds
iceman,
Yea, haven’t seen you on here in a while. A lot of my work is done online, so I always find myself back on here lol.
Listen here all you boxing historians.You keep talking all this crape about floyd and pacman,let it go. thats the past.mayweather has to get by this beast of a man they call suger! All you mayweather fans are going to see floyde get socked real good. He’s been tagged by alote less caliber fighters than shane. just admite it he’s going to get socked real hard. he’s realy going to have to fight to win this one. shane wont have it anyother way he never does.shane is a warrior. you think floyde is going to keep shane from hitting all night, if thats what you think your stupid.these other slick boxers that beat shane got taged by shane also, they were just alote bigger.shane is not going out like that. It’s going to take a real warrior to beat shane may 1 ‘st this man is going to come in to this fight prepaired to die in the ring if he has to. thats how much shane wants this fight! floyde is going to run he always does, but understand there is going to be a time when he’s going to have to fight this man. thats not good for floyde. 39 of shanes opponents can vouch for that. If floyde beats shane under these circumstances, then i will put all my doubts about him down.And call him a great fighter. I will still dislike him but great is great.
A loss to Pacquiao would be even more devastating. Pacquiao hasn’t lost since he became a PPV fighter or rated on a pound for pound list. A loss for Pacquiao would just prove boxing fans right when they explain how Manny has consistently fought opponents coming off a loss, second-tier fighters, and almost every Manny opponent lost in their last match against a top tier fighter. Morales I, II, and III, Barrera II, ODLH, Hatton, Cotto. All the big names on Manny’s resume, with the exception of Marquez had lost in their previous fight against top tier competition. If Mayweather ever loses, he will just lose one line of bragging, but would still be the biggest draw in boxing. If Pacquiao ever fights a top notch opponent, him and his fans will be brought back down to earth. Also don’t forget Mayweather had a severly injured right hand and a torn rotator cuff that he suffered only two or three days before Castillo I. He was complaining of shoulder pain to his corner after the first round and quit using his right hand altogether after round 8 in that fight because of the pain. He actually went through his entire training camp with the hand injury. Which is why he uses xylocaine in training now, to prevent a hand injury during training. Remember Castillo was considered the best at 135, while Diaz was considered the worst title holder. Its funny how Mayhaters always fail to mention the very significant fact of Mayweather’s injuries when he entered the ring that night. When he came back healthy he easily won. But hey if you actually mentioned all the facts and not just ones that denigrate Mayweather and his accomplishments, that would be too close to actual journalism.
Floyd “0″ defeat record is certainly a monkey on his back considering that most of those he defeated were chimps with the exception of few. Now he will be tested with SSM and if he is successful he still has to face the #1 P4P. If by chance he lost, I am afraid May 1 will be Floyd’s last dance.
Greatness is not just in numbers. It is not just how you fight but why you fight. Greatness is not only measured by what you think but how history remembers you. It is not in the battles won or lost, but by the way these challenges are met.
at least, Pacquiao has an experience that Mayweather don’t have. Pacquiao experienced a defeat, not to mention a knockdown. but in spite that, he managed to overcome the humiliation, achieve great recognitions, and maintain his humility.
on the other hand, Mayweather has a unique experience. he won all his match. everyone wants to do that, to be perfect. unfortunately, this achievement drove him to a rough personality.
Guys, no need to argue @ Dre00. He’s an idiot who doesn’t understand even the word “champion” in real sense. He’s a f*ckn narrow-minded guy like the Mayweathers!!!! He’s pretending to be a boxing fan and PBF is the only champion he knows in boxing.. not even Ali or the names metioned by Wowzabean.. F*ckin IDIOT isn’t he!!!
I liked the way you mentioned Pacquiao at the end of your article. Mayweather WILL NAoT make it against Pacquiao. By the way if Floyd beats Mosley he is NOT pound for pound king. He must beat Pacquiao. Then the winner will benthe ultimate legend above all else finaly clearing all doubt. I believe and know Manny WILL crush him and knock him out.
squak-PBF fought Marquez at a catchweight which he did not honor and came in overweight by 2 pounds.
Maybe a loss will make Mayweather a humbler exciting and better fighter. That will motivated him.
But then again, it might destroy his confidence too.
Whatever.
when MONEY BEATs MOSLEY he will be #1 P4P without a doubt and everyone can stop the hate on FLOYD. ALSO i dont think FLOYD ever fought anyone at a catchweight, and I really dont remember him having that MANY contreversies over his victories other than the first CASTILLO fight. I seem to remember when he moved up in weight he stayed there for awhile after either defending tittles and unifying them. MONEY HAS some real P4P Qualities i’ll say he’s #1 when he beats MOSLEy
” true champions never fall” – I suppose Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Kid Chocolate ect are not champions?
@reidj-what do u mean?did u see the 2 fight,the 1st fight could have gown eaither way and the 2nd fight in my opinion floyd win prity handely?never mind the judges score cards.
wowz, give it up mate. guys like this just dont get it are are quite obviously flawed. you cant even have an educated discussion on these sites now ( well few and far between) with the amount of s**t speakers out there.
i mean ” champions never lose” WTF?!
thats how champions are made you idiot!
i’d really like to know 5 or 6 “champions” that this clown can name.
then again thats just an opening for continued uneducated BS!
wowz,
give it up mate. guys like this just dont get it! its why i dont comment anymore.
i mean ” true champions never fall” WTF?!
thats how champions are made!
wowz,
give it up mate. guys like this just dont understand. its why i dont comment anymore. its not even intelligent debate.
i mean “true champions never fall” WTF! thats how champions are made idiot!
@wowzabean Well those boxers were True Champions by their fans, by people, go read history books, Champions do not lose!! and i`m sure that if those name you mentioned knew when to retire, they would not have lost as much, or maybe not even lost, that is the problem with boxing, GREED great fighters like Roy Jones, Tyson etc they kept coming back just for the $$$ and ruin the legendary career. How can you call someone a True Champion with 5 or 6 losses?
Floyd wants to be great and he is but he will never be an icon unless he fights manny. IF he beats him people will recognise greatness
marvin says,
I don’t agree that losing will make Floyd a better fighter. I think if Floyd ever lost a fight by KO he would retire just as Hatton and de la Hoya did. As he says he is only in the sport to make money. That is why he takes protecting yourself at all times to the extremes. If he loses by a close decision it would make him go into a shell even more. When you start fighting tentatively your more prone to getting Knocked out. That is why I think Mayweather will retire after three more fights.
James mc,
the second fight with Castillo was even closer on the score cards than the first. What do you mean he easily won the fight.
Ok you wan’t boxing.
Ali
Leanord
Jones
Robinson
Frazier
Armstrong
Tyson
Louis
and on and on and on. Ranked as the greatest and not undefeated.
@bob-im british and no huge mayweather fan,im not sticking up for him im just pointing to the fact that he was supose to have had that injury and the fact that it was also mayweather that wanted the rematch to make things right,if floyd was that scared of loosing his “o” and thot he lost the first fight without an injury he wouldnt have wanted the rematch?
Mayweather has lost before he didn’t win Gold in the Olympics, hey a win is a win no matter what.
@wowzabean you talking about being educated? lol those sports you mentioned, you cannot compare with boxing, OMG your really pathetic, did Jordan play 40 games? Favre 40 games? and by the way a “team sport”, Federer 40 matches?
spoken like a true Pacfan, If you dont agree with someone you resort to insults, I don’t expect anything less. lol
Dre00,
I don’t know………history! You f*ckn idiot. Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Federer, Tiger Woods, Brett Favre, all the greats haven’t won 100% of the time, and those are just examples from sports. I’d give you a history lesson of other important persons, but I doubt you’re educated.
That”s funny putting Pacman in the same category as williams, he barely squeeked by Marquez, he beat a severely weight drained Dela Hoya a Hatton that had his chin Taken away and a Cotto that had his Heart ripped from his chest + his chin taken away by Margarito’s hands of stone (literally). Your giving Pacman to much credit, It’s like the perfect storm, he got to his opponents while they were easy pickens.
True Champions never fall!!! don`t know where u got your theory from!!
A few losses aren’t a big deal. Real men are made during times of trial and tribulation, not when they’re on top. It takes a real champ to rise to the occasion after a loss. Many of the greats have done it, including Pacquiao, can Floyd? That’s yet to be seen.
Floyd lost that first fight against Castillo, just like I think Calzaghe lost to Reid all those years ago. I also think this whole “0″ is overrated, as a fan of the sport for me it’s not about the “0″ but more about who you do and don’t fight.. Anyway looking to the future Floyd as great as he is I feel is about to meet his maker in Mosley have done for a long time. Styles make fights and I honestly feel that Mosley has the tools to pull off a big upset.
Thats why i prefer boxing in the 50′s ect, if you lost back then it wasnt that important, boxers today are too protected by there promoters.
If Floyd grows a pair and fights Pacquiao and Williams then there can be no arguments, as those two guys are by far the most dangerous at welterweight. Obviously Mosley is a big draw, even though it is quite late on in his career, so props to Floyd for taking this fight. It did fall into his lap though.
This article touches on a very interesting point, I mean Ray Robinson and Ali lost fights but are still the greatest. The fact that Floyd retired at 30, with massive gaps in his record, tells you a lot about how he does protect his zero. At least Calzaghe admits he was protecting his by retiring when he did, but Calzaghe is for another day.
As I said at the beginning Mayweather needs to face Pacquiao and Williams then he can talk as much as he wants because there really is no-one else.
Dre00 That’s a good point, People should take notes
James come on that’s a lame excuse if he had a torn rotator he would have had surgery, I see no surgery scars. IF he had a torn rotator he would have had to have surgery in the future by continuing punching. I have known people who had torn Rotators and they can’t even lift their arms and the last time I look Floyd was throwing punches in that fight. Unless he was so doped up with Pain killers that he didn’t feel the pain.
People like Brusa should not post on Floyd’s article, If you are calling Floyd a cherry picker, then all Top rank’s fighter and especially MANNY are cherry picker, because Arum/Roach only setups fight for Manny, if they have some sort of advantage, and please do not say “no” we all know, you know, i think even your kids know!!!
Come on, Stop prying for his down fall..
Mayweathers friend is arrested for the Vegas shooting if convicted he faces 92 years. The Vegas Police is investagating how much is Mayweather is involved. Who wants to bet that Mayweather’s friend snithches him off for less time. I would laugh my ass off if Mayweather ends up with OJ
Well, Floyd is a very good fighter. He talk alot of smack but that sell tickets…. people love to see him lose and every time he makes poeple eat there words…..
Mosley is not the one.. nor is steroid taking Pac.
Floyd is the biggest draw in boxing right now and this fight will Mosley will do huge nubmers.
He was defeated plain in 2002 but it give him something worse than a lesson, he started being cocky for no reason because he was a cherry picker all the time, he is a good fighter but instead of getting a top 10 all time he is now at the best an top 50 or top 100. Must learn to talk less and fight more.
remember tho in there first fight floyd had torn his rotator cuff 3 days before the fight,and still managed to get the win,u need to remember a torn rotator cuff is 1 off the worst injurys a boxer can have,look at vitali he had to pull out against byrd because of it and look at lacy had 18 ko from 21 fight and now cant fling his left hook anymore because off the injury.floyd new the fighht was close but also new he wasnt right in the fight and wanted the remath(with he easily win)to make things correct.
mayweather a good fighter but for some strange reason i think that he will be a even greater fighter if he looses a fight.some fighters become even better fighters after they have lost.in that caes if mayweather get a good taste of a loss,he will become a better boxer than he is nown.there for he will start kicking all the fighters that we say he is afraid of a–.i just think he will stop being afraid and become a beast..just me thoughts.