How come Pacquiao got so beat up by Clottey?
March 15th, 2010
By Esteban Garduno: I know how fans of Manny Pacquiao (51-3-2, 38 KO’s) think he looked sensational in his 12 round decision win over Joshua Clottey (35-4, 20 KO’s) last Saturday night at the Dallas Cowboy Stadium, but Pacquiao sure did get beaten up by Clottey, didn’t he? Look at Pacquiao’s face after the fight, badly marked around both eyes, his face swollen from Clottey’s powerful shots and an appearance of someone you could easily mistake as the loser had you not watched the fight. And then look at Clottey, not a scratch on his face, barely sweating at all and looking very much like the winner of the fight.
Pacquiao looked lead-footed and appeared very slow in moving around the ring. He wasn’t able to jump side to side to get different angles like he had earlier in his career. When Pacquiao tried to do this, he was so slow that Clottey had no problem turning to meet him. Instead of getting Clottey out of position, all it did was waste energy for Pacquiao and make him look like someone bouncing around for no reason.
Pacquiao might has well just stood in front of Clottey all fight long instead of using his movement, because Pacquiao looked really slow and Clottey wasn’t having any problems tracking him. But Pacquiao looked like hell after the fight, didn’t he? God, Clottey gave Pacquiao a minor beating in there with his powerful shots.
I’d hate to see what would have happened if Clottey had doubled his work rate and threw a few more punches. Pacquiao would have taken a real beating. I could see Pacquiao with both of his eyes swollen shut, barely able to see anything at all if Clottey had thrown more punches. Freddie Roach said after the fight that if Clottey had been more offensive, Pacquiao would have knocked him out. Do you believe that? I don’t.
There’s no way Pacquiao would have stopped Clottey even if Pacquiao had been able to land some shots. Clottey isn’t the type of fighter that gets’ knocked out. Clottey would have taken those shots without any problems, and really tore up Pacquiao’s face in the process. I think its wishful thinking on Roach’s part, trying to make excuses for why Pacquiao got so beat up in the fight.
Sorry, Roach, but if Clottey had been more offensive than he was, Pacquiao would have taken a royal beating much worse than he did. Roach needs to consider himself lucky that Clottey didn’t throw more punches because Pacquiao would have gotten really beaten up and people would be wondering about him, especially if Clottey ended up beating Pacquiao.
In seeing him easily Clottey was able to hit Pacquiao all night long, I can’t realistically give Pacquiao any chance of beating Floyd Mayweather Jr. Clottey showed how easy it is to hit Pacquiao, and if Clottey can do this then Mayweather, a fighter even faster and more accurate than Clottey, will have a field day against Pacquiao.
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One thing I noticed in the fight is every time Clottey decided to physical push Manny away as he was throwing punches he did it with ease. Manny is fast for this division because he is the smaller man, but one of the disadvantages is that he is not as strong, so fighters in this division need to use their physical advantage and basically man handle him.
Hey guys give credit to clottey.Clottey is one of the best in this division.He was very sharp,second to none in his punching accuracy but he was too scared to exchage punches with pacman and get knocked down due to the lightning speed and power of pacman.This is a testimony to pacman how brilliantly he executed the fight and adjusted according to what the situation presented to him.Pacman is the best of all time.No one can beat Pacman in this era yet.He has been beating the best,knocking them down when they tried to engage power to power.Bring on Mayweather or Mosley for easy millions for Pacman.Pacman for President,the hero of all Asians and boxing fans.
ANOTHER WORDS WHAT THESE TRUE boxing fans are saying forget bloodtesting.Its ok for boxers to do steroids. Forget being natural.Its bad sportsmanship to have 1 or 2 boxers to do steroids or take enhancement drugs. So to be fair everybody can do it now and not worry about any test anymore.Now thats good spoortsmanship.O but boxers that doesnt mean you can smoke weed or do cocaine, we still test for that.We want to set a example to kids that love boxing.So remember say no to drugs but say yes to steroids. Mayweather i’m sorry you my boy thats what boing wants so take steroids to.
@Donkey
I meant he does not train 4-5 hours.
@Donkey
Pacquiao does train 4-5 hours. If you watched the road to Dallas show you would have heard Freddie Roach say Pacquiao is with his entourage 22 out 24 hours. And he trains 2 hours. C’mon Man! Stop believing all the non sense you hear. Did you notice that when the question of blood testing was asked Manny avoided answering the question at all and deferred to Freddie Roach. And lets stop acting like Freddie Roach is just the greatest trainer in the world. If i recall correctly, Freddie Roach was Training Mike Tyson when he got his ass beat by Holyfield and Lewis. He also trained Oscar when Floyd Embarrassed his ass. And he also was giving James Toney Steroids when he came like 6 weight classes and got busted.
DannyV:
The answer is not any of your suggestions.
Pacquiao did not look good because he is so busy supporting the 160 leeches with him. Try having 160 leeches on your body and see if you can still stand. They have sucked the blood out of him. That’s the way with Filipinos – stardom takes a toll, you have to carry a lot of weight, a lot of hangers on.
HELP, Roach. Kick these people away from Pacquaio, for God’s sake. Just don’t touch them physically or you’ll risk another lawsuit. I am Filipino, too, but like the writer, I see what I see.
It must be very hard to punch someone who is always blocking and with a great chin. But we all must admit that Manny didn’t look as good as always. Now the question is Why? Clottey’s defense or lack of PED’s?
hmmm i dont know to win fights you have to take chances and expose your chin you IDIOT!!!!!
ESPECIALY WHEN IT COMES TO A MORON WHO BLOCKS ALL NOT AND NOT THROW PUNCHES MAKING BOXING LOOK BORING(CLOTTEY).
ANY ONE CAN BLOCK PUNCHES AND NOT GET HIT MORE SO WHEN NOT THROWING BACK!!!
THE BLOGGER ON THIS ONE IS MOST DEF A COMPLETE MORON!
I agree with the writer somewhat. I saw a slower, weaker, softer and with less punching power than the fighter that fought Cotto. He still looked phenominal, but I looked diffent enough to wonder if he’s been using PED’s,
@Donkey
Now you sound like Pacquiao. First, its money. now, its something else. Yeah you are a Pacquiao fan at heart. Like i said Pacquiao vs Margarito(another slow, flat footed, easy to hit harder) coming soon.
oh man seriously?? have you seen the interview of Clottey after the fight? you are delusional!
I AGREE WITH WRITER. Pacquiao has to change his ways.
Get rid of the hundred of leeches with him sucking up his time. He needs to prepare more. He was not in the best of shape, he was slow, and looked weak. His punches were light. Com’n people, Pacquiao wasn’t great this night. Too much partying is taking its toll. I hope Freddie Roach does something about this soon or Pacquiao will have a great fall from grace. I LOVE PACQUIAO, I WENT THERE FOR HIM.
I am just giving honest opinion. He needs to focus – he is not focused – this entourage of leeches has to be rid of. He needs time to really train and get better.
Clottey would have killed him had Clottey decided to throw a few more punches. He would not have won had Clottey decided to fight. And I can just imagine if it was Mayweather. Not in Pac’s condition this night. He did not look good and as prepared as he had been before.
pacman did his thing in his fight, and his face showing signs of a fight is well, to be expected. everyone knew clotty was a tough fighter with an excellent chin and solid defense. there is a reason why clotty didnt go after pacman, it was pacs offense.
whatever happens between mayweather and mosley, one thing is for certain, we are in for some good fights.
Hold on you are forgetting Clottey is a big tough welterweight who had a constant guard of his head throughout the fight which Pac-Man tried to break to make the fight interesting for the fans. That’s why occasionally Clottey found opportunities to counter Pac-Man but he stood up to those shots and clearly won the fight – Clottey was negative and just came to survive.
Mayweather has fought no world level operators at welterweight and in his last fight fought a flappy 143lb Marquez and cheated by coming in above the agreed catchweight. When Mayweather has fought Mosley we will know more about Mayweathers credentials – we should just hope that Mosley’s inactivity at his late age doesn’t mean it isn’t the fight we’d hope.
I’d still back Pac-Man to beat Mayweather – Mayweather’s low guard (and arrogance he won’t change it) will make him cannon fodder for Pac-Man his defense may be good but Pac-Man is too quick and would beat him up.
here is something a miss with pacman…its looking like he is definitely on something…his size hasn’t changed no matter what weight he fights at and he was a very average fighter when he started…these type of average fighters do not become unstoppable machines! They can become good fighters but not great… so… I think bloodtests should be in order… Mayweather will make him look foolish
Yes Pacquiao did get bruised up in the fight but Clottey did have a swollen right side of his face (in the Zygomatic area)and it was getting worse by the minute…I do agree with you that Pacquiao didnt have the movement that we usually see from him but then again he didnt even have to move since Clottey was always in front of him. With Clottey not willing to fight, you cant expect Pacquiao to fight as if Clottey was fighting back, thats ridiculous. Pacquio did what he could to make a good fight without the help of Clottey! No, PPviewers didnt get what they wanted from this fight -talk to Clottey bout that!!!
@shifto
There’s no mystery to Pacquiao’s super-human strength. It’s not PEDs or steroid. It’s total dedication to training, analyzing carefully his opponents’ style with the help of Roach, having the heart of a true fighter, and keeping fit and a healthy lifestyle even if he is not boxing. Of course, a little faith from above helps too.
Here are the top ten reasons why Floyd asks for Olympic Style Testing.
10. He knows Pacquiao hates being taken blood from.
9. It was stipulated in the contract but then he stretched it to his favor
8. He is a master-manipulator
7. He wants to emulate Martin Luther King Jr and clean up the boxing world (clap, clap, clap. yeah, right!)
6. He is a megalomaniac who believes he is still a P4P King and so he demands this unprecedented OST.
5. He is jealous of Pacquiao’s achievements so he resorts to character-assassination.
4. Since he knows he cannot beat Pacquiao inside the ring, he beats him by slandering him, (and his screwball fans
believe him
3. His looney father told him that “No way he could beat Pacquiao, so let’s put up a deal-breaker”
2. OST is the best – and blood and only blood will detect an illegal substance. He doesn’t believe in other methods.
(Short like saying ‘Fire the people of NSAC)
1. He is just plain chicken!
@motownhitman
Since you sound like the president of Floyd’s fans club, why don’t you go look for Floyd’s balls coz he seems to have lost it, instead of yapping here how great your Floyd is.
@motownhitman:
Here, refute these facts:
Manny Pacquiao:
- 3-time fighter of the year
- fighter of the decade
- 7 championship belts (record holder)
End of the day all pacquiaos punches were blocked, clottey did more damage to pacman than pacman did to clottey. Clottey lost because he didnt do enough offensively. If he had, then he could have made it a real serious situation for pacquiao. Clottey was outworked, NOT beaten to a pulp like diaz, dela hoya, hatton and cotto.
Clottey even by his standards was suspiciously passive that night, there is an argument to say he might have been paid off
Any fighter out there would be concerned about Manny because the guy is relentless and doesn’t even clinch once to take a breather! That concerns me, I mean the guy has a chance to clear his name by agreeing to blood tests against Mayweather (if Mayweather beats Mosley) but he is already refusing that! Something is not right with Manny and all the fighters know this that is why they are so concerned.
i rekon esteban is perez in sheeps clothin
@Donkey
Pacquiao doesnt fight for money remember! So, he shouldnt have a problem fighting any of those guys. Like i said Pacquiao’s next fight will be Margarito. Watch and see! Hey, maybe its not Manny; maybe its arum or roach. But whatever the reason he’s been fighting the same type fighters since 2003… Pacquiao vs Margarito coming soon…. get ready
@2010lac
Shut up clown! Here we go with this im a boxer myself crap. Man Please! If you are a Boxer(which i doubt) you should be out somewhere training. Its not about hating, i just call it like i see it. Since you know so much about boxing, answer this. Since 2003, name a fighter other than Marquez that Pacquiao has faught that wasnt the same flat footed, slow, stiff type of fighter. Ill be waiting…..
If you think so, then why wasn’t Clottey unable to give out more punches than he did in the fight? Man, he barely made four straight punches! If Manny’s punches weren’t that powerful, man, why in the world kept on his Tortoise defense?
Is Clottey that Silly? It sounds to me he is concerned of being knocked out, since he haven’t been knocked out in his career, and would be humiliated so much if the one who’ll be able to do that to him is someone smaller than he is…
I have never seen some one throw so many punches and land so little. The fact of the matter is even though Manny threw more punches they were blocked and clottey no matter how little he threw he landed the most effective shots.Having said that I was dissapointed as an african, he didn’t display the african warrior spirit – covering up like that I was ambarrased for the brother. Peace.
It’s plainly obvious how easily Pac swells around the eyes. Don’t think for a second that Floyd Mayweather wouldn’t have both those eyes shut by the 6th round. It’d be Gatti all over again.
Why do you have to make unnecessary movements (side to side, in & out) if your opponent just standing before you & does not throw punches?
Manny didn’t require exra agility on that fight because if he did he was just wasting his energy.
Clottey could not deliver as much punches as he should because it would leave him exposed or opened to Manny’s attack. Have you seem the first round when Clottey got caught with Manny’s right hook? Clottey almost went down.
Maybe you just saw the bruise after the fight, you missed the actual fight. Idiot
i posted this on fugate’s blog but i should post it here also ..
hey garduno im giving you a headsup, your daddy money mayweather made some IDITIOC (just like your blogs) comments on some website, you better pick it up right away or your girlfriends lahr, williams, fugate will beat you to it. GO GO !!!…
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idiot
esteban, have u asked clottey, how’s his rib cage?
how can you show your agility,good movement and showmanship for that kind of fight did by clottey? he never want to throw his punch and he’s look like a turtle hide from his body shed. only one thing he want to show is he will survive and prove that he never fall on this fight. he is a coward… it’s very unimpressive kind of fighting.
Agreed, except for Pac’s footwork – I thought Pac’s footwork was
impressive.
How come Pacquiao got so beat up by Clottey?
Imagine if it was floyd fighting against clottey…
FLOYD waving, CLOTTEY standing. it’s like watching to clowns
performing on top of a boxing ring. no one’s beat up..
two cowards doing their best act… bwahahahaha……
How come Pacquiao got so beat up by Clottey?
Imagine if it was floyd fighting against clottey…
FLOYD waving, CLOTTEY standing. it’s like watching to clowns
performing on top of a boxing ring. no one’s beat up..
two cowards doing their best act… bwahahahaha……
All this dunb talk has to stop at some point. Mayweather and Pacquiao can both fight and no matter who you think will win both these fighters are ATG’s; If they weren’t, this fight wouldn’t have the potential it does. So show respect to both fighters.
Manny changes his style based on who he’s fighting with. So you can’t judge this fight for his future fights. 1200 puches most of it were blocked not missed if Clottey weren’t covering too much those punches would’ve landed & possibly knock him out. I don’t think Clottey has a granite chin it appears like that because he covers his head too much.
Manny was trying to break Clottey’s shell and wasn’t worried about defence, since his opponent was not responding why try to be elusive or defensive?
@ Haku313
aww. you can’t be happy today? can’t celebrate? you need to wait for seven weeks then. as for now you can hate, feel jealous and frustrated to the recent winner: Manny Pacquiao.
Haku313
Who are you?!? I aint never heard someone hate on someone else so much in my life. I’m a boxer outta Vegas, and Floyd is my dude; but you gotta give a boxer like Pac-Man some respect for doin what he does. Floyd is eventually gonna fight Manny and it’s gonna be one of the best stylistic fights in boxing history; real talk – aint nobody duckin nobody! Once you accomplish less then a fraction of a percentage of what either fighter has done, you really have no room to talk. Show some respect fo!
I don’t even like Pacquiao, but you gotta admit that he is a monster. The guy who wrote this garbage of an article has no idea what he’s talking about, moron!
Pretty Boy Floyd all the way!!!
Zelig is absolutely right. If this estubahn guy knew what he was talking about, and decided to actually get his facts right, he would know that. Roach and Pac knew that Clottey was gonna cover up all night, so their strategy for the fight was to punish the body. If you watched pre-fight interviews estubahn you would know this. Obviously, Clottey didn’t disappoint and so they worked his body every which way they could.
If you have ever put on a set of boxing gloves estubub, you’d know that when you attack you leave some openings for yourself. Pac is one of the most offensive boxers in history – hence his knockout rating. His offensive attack allowed Clottey to get some punches in, but nothing significant. Talk to Clottey’s doctor and ask’em “how does Clottey’s body look?” I bet right now he can hardly sneeze, laugh, or even move. It’s a boxing match homie, and Pac did what he could to win the fight.
1st they say he’s one dimesional, next he’s movements are too linear, then he’s too small, then he has no chin to take a real welterweight punch, now too slow off his feet. Are these watching the pacquiao’s fights? or are they just reading about them in articles written by complete idiots?
Paquiao are many haters. Most of whom are Flyod fans who are insecure of Paquiao’s achievements which eclipsed that of their beloved spoiled brat Floyd.
Clottey is the fighter no one would like to fight. He has never been knocked out, he play dirty at times, he is also a very heavy hitter, just take a look at all his previous opponents, they all came out bloodied against him. Clottey was never mistaken for a great boxer, but against solid welterweights Zab Judah, Miguel Cotto, and Antonio Margarito, win or lose he was never out of the fight, (All of whom Floyd ducked)
To any everyone who has said Paquiao can’t take a real welterweights punch, He was hit by some pretty solid uppercuts and right hooks by clottey, but he remained standing. BLoody yet standing.
CLOTTEY LANDED A LESS PERCENTAGE OF PUNCHES THAN PACQUIAO!!!
Pac wanted to get hit so he could try to get Clottey to trade with him…you Pac-haters are IDIOTS!!!
have you EVER seen clottey nicked up in the face??
Hey guys, if MOTOWNHITMAN says Clottey doesnt hit hard, then take his word for it. DONT listen to Antonio Margarito because how would HE know? LOL
Stop posting her Esteban. You’re a hack. You totally miscalled the Pacquaio vs Clottey fight and now you’re filling this site with anti-Pacquiao trash.
Clottey covered his face the whole fight, so Manny punished his body. Manny is an offensive fighter, but he dodged a good number of Clottey’s punches. Rewatch the fight and you can see the Manny defended himself fairly well. However, he is constant attacking, which leaves him open for the occasional coutnerpunch.
Manny takes risks. Clottey took hardly any. If Clottey went on the attack, he would have been KO’d just like all of Manny’s most recent victims. The fact is that Clottey was too afraid of Manny’s speed to open up.
Manuel Perez alias Esteban did you go to the hospital to check on Clottey. He was not able to attend the fight interview because he was sent to the hospital to check on his ribs I thing there are some broken ribs. And to those people who saying that PACMAN has a lots of bruises, he was head butted by Clottey. Pacman is a humble boxer, not showy and can take a punch and never hit the canvas since he became champion. In boxing history nobody started as flyweight Champion up to Welterweight Champion. He is the only one, the greatest boxer of all time.
I think you forgot to post the last line of this article, “Psyche!”
@Donkey
Man Please!!!! Floyd will beat the hell outta Pacquiclown… Keep dreaming son! And as far as Floyd being afraid of Pacquiclown. Please… Manny will never fight FLOYD! I guarantee if Mayweather drops the drug testing Manny will come up with some crap about he should get 60/40 split or something. And another thing, Mosley was available before the cotto fight(Manny ducked him). And you act as if Manny didnt come the weight class of Bradley and Valero. Or it could even be Manny’s favorite catch weight bout. But even if these fighters agree to a catch weight bout, he WIL NOT fight them. His next fight will be Margarito or anither Top rank fighter, someone they know he can beat.
If I’m a big fan of Mayweather, but you gotta admit that Manny looked great! You have to remember that this is a boxing match; that’s why Pac had some bruises. Clottey didn’t want to become a victim so he covered up all night long.
wasn’t jim lampley hugging pacquiao’s nuts? did he really think like freddie that if clottey open up he would get knocked out? they took turns throwing punches so if clottey open up, he would have no resistance. but kudos for manny rarely giving clottey a turn to punch. i was very impressed with manny’s punch output. everyone was fooled into thinking manny would knock clottey out.
clottey is massive compared to manny , but i bet clotteys steel rib cage must be a bit sore and his cheek was puffed up. well done pac man almost pefect performance
i get what you’re saying…pac threw a lot but hardly landed while clottey did a lot of damage with the few shots he did throw. in a lot of places (africa, asia & central europe) you can have a lot of success with that style. us judges tend to mark more on workrate though. having said that…it doesn’t matter what criteria you used to judge that fight…pac won. absolutely no question. clottey is good but he’s never gonna be a success in the us with that style.
“How come Pacquiao got so beat up by Clottey?”
Because he had to warm up for his concert after the fight.
WTF is wrong with everyone!!!! He had a bit of a bruised cheek. For gods sake its a boxing match!!!!! Plus Clottey was more than a stone heavier than pac on the night. Im not suprised his shots left a mark. Get a grip guys, the man is a machine
i was impressed with pacs offense 1200+ punches is just ridiculous, but not overly impressed by his defense. When clottey did choose to punch he usually landed, not a great sign for when pac gets in the ring with someone who actually moves their feet and will throw back.
Ryu says:
March 15, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Maybe that’s true, but Clottey has been known as a fighter that is only going to throw a certain amount of punches anyways. Why would they choose to fight this guy? Especially at a venue as large as the Cowboy’s stadium? This was wrong, they should give the fans their money back.
They picked clottey because he’s the rank 7 ww, mayweather who’s rank 2 did not materializd, mosley rank 3 was sched to fight berto rank 5, rank 4 margarito under suspension, and cotto rank 6 just loss to pacquiao.
as for his face looking damaged. well yeah…. this is boxing!!!
hammer 13,
ur right that manny didnt look great on sat nite. but he still won by nearly a shut out!
pacman got puffy around eyes due to head butts you idiots….
BERT i totally agree with you. it is so obvious. Clottey could have really hurt pac
Dav Lahr/Manuel Perez… Pacquaio could have easily ben more careful with his defence but he knew how much better he was than Clottey and didnt really need to. Pac doesn’t mind a fw shots to the face if he’s putting on a good show. That’s why he is the most exciting and popular fighter in the world.
Maybe that’s true, but Clottey has been known as a fighter that is only going to throw a certain amount of punches anyways. Why would they choose to fight this guy? Especially at a venue as large as the Cowboy’s stadium? This was wrong, they should give the fans their money back.
I am very surprised at how much negativity there is surrounding MANNY PAQUIAO I have already stated my disapointment at Clottey but if he had attacked more Manny would have looked even more impressive!!
Am I the only person that feels that Manny’s ability to counter punch is very underrated? When Miguel Cotto attacked Paquiao he was caught with a counter and floored!! (second knock down)
In his great fight with Marquez (rematch) the knock down was from a counter punch on the inside, my point is if Clottey opened up he would have been countered all night long!!
Yes Manny would have tasted more leather becouse his defence is not the best but Clottey’s punches never looked like they troubled him (his solid chin is another underrated quality) so I just cannot see how Clottey would win this fight.
Correction: The last word in the first paragraph of my previous comments, is ‘reality’.
Clottey was out of his league in the fight; he threw shamefully few punches, and still he was able to inflict a fair amount of damage on Pacquiao, so it should now be clear to any fair, intelligent, and experienced boxing fan or keen observer, that Pacquiao is a limited fighter, in terms of technical skills. I believe that Roach, who is a very intelligent and talented trainer, is fully aware of his realit
Both Mosley and Mayweather would take Pacquiao to school. Manny is an exciting, but overrated fighter; and Clottey should never land another fight in the major league. Clottey should never get the opportunity of another PPV fight.
he will look alot worse after he fights floyd !!
I’ve read a few of your so-called “articles” and you just come off as being someone who refuses to believe that Manny is just that good, even AFTER he beats his opponents.
With that said, let’s take a better look at this fight. We all knew that Clottey was and is a strong fighter with a great defense. This wasn’t going to be an easy fight, but we also knew that Manny wasn’t going to sit there and take the same punishment that Clottey took to the body, which is why I predicted that this fight was going the distance and ultimately won by Manny by decision. Going into the fight, I knew that this fight wasn’t going to be a quick and decisive one. I do agree that Manny did look a bit battered around the eyes. Clottey landed some great uppercuts and some of the punches that he did throw left some damage. I won’t dispute that because it was pretty clear. Clottey’s known for his “turtle defense” and going the distance. As with all smart fighters, they take their time and “play” early on to find out what the other fighter’s about. In Manny’s case, you can tell he was trying to get through Clottey’s guard and trying to figure out how to break this guy’s defenses. When that didn’t work too well early on, he went to the body. Manny’s straight on punches to the gut and ribs made me wince. I don’t think I, or a lot of others for that matter, can take that many punches to the gut. Clottey, on the other hand, didn’t do anything to “read” Manny and just couldn’t produce. So there’s a reason why Clottey didn’t look bad at all – HE KEPT HIS GUARD UP THE WHOLE TIME, WAS UNWILLING TO TAKE CHANCES, AND COULDN’T PRODUCE!! Yes, Manny looked a bit battered and tired. Wouldn’t you if you were throwing 1,231 punches over the course of 40 minutes? Yes, Joshua looked fine throughout the 12 rounds. Wouldn’t you if all you did was have your guard up and threw a paltry 399 punches? But I digress, however. Manny did what he does best and so did Joshua.
So, being a self-appointed “journalist”, you wrote a piece of one-sided trash that should’ve been left on your own personal Facebook account. Now as far as “bert” saying that Clottey threw the fight, that can be argued but I still want to lean towards the fight being legit. Money’s in house but Clottey had a very unique and great opportunity, but didn’t do anything to cement his own legacy. If we brought it back to JMM or even ODLH, I’d have to say the fight was thrown if they performed exactly how Clottey did. Give “props” where they’re due, but you did none of that.
Neiltoosweet ,England – Bigger and stronger does not always equate to more power when punching, Clottey weighing more than Pac has nothing to do with his chances of winning.
To be fair clottey could of really hurt pacman if he incresed his work but pacman wouldnt let him, if he went toe to toe with pacman he would of been overwhelmed with speed and power of punches
I wouldn’t have given him a chance against the following fighters either: Paul Williams, Shane Mosley, are Floyd Mayweather. He has not shown that he can beat any top fighter in the welter weight division unless you consider Zab Judah an elite welter weight. Come on people.
Clottey lost. Just like he lost to Baldomir, Margaritto, and Cotto. Yeah he lost. So what? Who thought he was going to win anyways? Better yet, who thought he had a chance?
davelahrisbrilliant…trying to generate a decent discussion. Often times people talk from an emotional place, I stated a few facts. I’m just curious how people are going to respond to facts.
The reasone pac took those punches was to open up clotty’s defence!!!!!!!!!!!!!
further more , what made this feat ever more impressive, is the fact that clottey possesses one of todays best defenses around. and the way pac-man waltz his way through 12 rounds was impressive
Dude next time really watch the fight! then watch it again, clottey was covering up coz if he try to punch he will get hit bang! you wanna come after me BANG! oh you wanna throw a Punch? BANG BANG!! now you wanna trade punches? BANG! BaNG! BANG! knocked out! that’s the whole story if Clottey try’s to punch. and thats why he dont have a mark on his face coz he is so busy cowering.
its boxing my man,, bumps and bruises are relevant . it is undoubtable that pac-man impresively got the job done
@motownhitman
…so what point are you trying to make exactly with your “facts”?
Aside from the authors bias he’s is right on how Pacquaio’s face did look like he was getting the worse of the punishment. But that only tells one side of it, in boxing when you take punishment and your face swells up in between fights it goes away but the scar tissue is something that never goes away once a fighter starts to get cut, it’s no uncommon to see them to get cut in their next bout. Look at Mosley his face is starting to show age when he smiles you can barely see his eyes.
how can you say that Pacquiao got beat up, it was a completely dominate performance, yes he took a couple of shots but its not as if Clottey is a bum. One judge gave Pacquiao 120 – 108, how can he achieve such a victory when he got beat up ?
Bill B…my point is to get people to refute what I said if they can…so can you?
@Bob
Who thought Clottey was going to win? Better yet who thought Clottey was going to throw more than a few punches then cover up?
@ The Author
Umm..Clottey lost and Pacquiao won. Clottey didn’t have any marks on his face because all the marks are in his body. Clottey FEARED Pacquiao’s punches and thus “clammed” up all night long.
Boxing experts from Fanhouse and Yahoo as well as the casual observer concluded that Colttey was there to survive and cash his check.
All the Pac haters continue with stupid post. Clottey was to strong gets beat up he’s a bum . The bottom line Pac beats Mayweather easily.
Pacquiao has NO chance beating Mayweather…NONE!
I think your right pacman face looks hell and that face entertain everyone. For all i knew clottey was just a human punching just standing there with his hands allover his face.After that fight is the biggest earn of all his fight,so with Cotto,Diaz and so on. So the sake of Mayweather stop talking get on with it.His just trying to find some fault to cover up his faer of losing.
@motownhitman- So what’s your point? Please say something that makes sense.
This is sh1t.
1-clottey hits hard, margarito said he hits harder than cotto, he just doesn’t punch enough
2-if as the writer suggests, clottey decided to open up more he would of got even more of a beating, pacquiao is to quick and would of beaten him to the punch all night. And before anyone says clottey would of knocked him out if he’d of traded shots I don’t believe it. Look at pacs last 4 or 5 fights against bigger guys, he can tKe a shot!!
I agree wit the writer. Arum kept money in house. Ther was NO WAY they was gon let Clottey beat Paquiao. ARUM WANTS THAT PACMAN VS MAYWEATHER MONEY!!! Now Clottey NEVER stood around and waited to get punched ever in his career. Any idiot wit a brain cud see he threw the fight!! Guess I’m a hater now too? Who cares. Now I like Pacquiao but he is too sloppy. He reminds me of a Mayorga or Margarito. Just beat your opponents by overwhelming them with punches. He hasn’t fought a fighter as smart or fast as Mayweather. Now only IF Mayweather can get by Shane, I think beatin Pacquiao is gon be light work. As Clubber Lang would say, “He(Pacman), stupid! The man comes straight ahead, and he’s gonna get hurt.”
I think this fact sums up how good Clottey is compared to the most elite welter weights. His best victory comes against……………Zab Judah?
People still dont get it?! Manny Pacquiao will only fight certain fighters! He WILL NOT fight Mosley,Mayweather, Valero, Bradley jr., Berto, etc… His next fight will be Margarito, a slow, flat footed, easy to hit fighter. Who just got his ass beat and hasnt faught in a year! This is Mannys IMO.
Another top notch observation from someone who most likely didn’t even watch the fight. Got his info from a number of BLOGS, and now tries to sound like he knows boxing. I punch you 20 times, you punch me once, your punch gives me a black eye, so lemme guess, you win the round? Do your homework, or find something else to write about.
Warning: Esteban has no intention to malign, insult or put down any boxer in the world. He only wanted to see if strategy in writing the article like this would sell. I don’t buy your idea Esteban. YOu should write in gossip column.
@Oli
I respect your opionion, but Clottey did lose to Cotto, and no matter what the reason for lack of KO’S rather it be power or work rate he hasn’t had a KO victory in years and that’s a fact no matter how you explain it. Aside from the Cotto fight it’s not uncommon for Clottey to throw between 300 to 400 punches, I’m not making that up it’s just fact. Like I said before Clottey was fighting like he usually does. That wasn’t worthy of paper view, and more importantly Clottey wasn’t worthy of fighting any P4P champion period.
Oli
MOWTONHITMAN- Actaully i refute 3 things you said….fact 4 and 5 are not facts at all.
Fact4- you said Clottey is not a heavy hitter, but Antonio Margarito said recently that Clottey hits harder than Cotto, and he should know he fought them both. The low KO is likely down to Clotteys low work rate than lack of power. – I guess you don’t know the game huh..Hatton also said Floyd doesn’t hit hard but yet Floyd knocked him out. Do not people also talk about Floyd’s low work rate yet Floyd has a higher KO% than Clottey. Clottey is not a power fighter PERIOD.
Fact5- Clottey did NOT fight how he normally does, for evidence watch the Clottey vs Cotto fight, he was WAY more attack minded probabaly because he did not fear as much the speed or power that Cotto showed him. – Clottey has a low work rate in every right you JUST pointed it out trying to refute fact #4, so to say he didn’t fight his normal fight is ridiculous. The fact is he throws very few punches which is the point I was making.
Fact7- Clottey actaually DID beat Cotto in my opinion, the decision was a disgrace, so you can actually add that Clottey has beaten Cotto, because in reality he did. – You are refuting this “fact” by stating an opinion, therefore no points for you there.
The rest you say IS fact
Look at the footage during in-between rounds, who looked winded? Pac, who threw more than 100+ per round didn’t appear as tired as Clottey (33 per round). Clottey also looked like he was about to quit. Also, you wouldn’t see that much damage on Clottey’s face, he did a pretty good job covering it. Pac was hitting the body.
I usually disagree with this writter and i really like paquiao a lot , in fact he is one of my favourite fighters ecause of his willigness to take ig chances, but i have to call a spade a spade and agree with this guy, paquiao looked like the loser due to the state of his face besides he took some clean and hard uppercuts from clotey he seems to be very vulnerable to uppercuts remember his fight again Cotto . Obviously paquiao hit more often than Clottey did but Cloteyś face was almost unmarked, perhaps the fact he is extremely dark help to hide the punishment, as for Clottey offense i think he had taken a lot of punishment if he had gone out of his shield.At The post fight interview Clottey said Paquiao was so fast that’s why his guard was so thight.
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Pacquaio clearly one. but thats the what this writer is pointing out. If Clottey, who is not full of speed and accuracy…does such a good job of hitting Pacman. What do yo tuihnk Floyd would have done? Second, Floyd doesnt just stand in front of his fighters like Clottey does, he is constantly moving, andh e would make Manny come to him. I agree with this writer, i think Pacquiao was blessed to not fight Floyd, or he would have been embarrassed
This writer is really trying hard to find a way to criticize Pacquiao. He was taking risk just to make the fight entertaining, not like the other guy just trying to avoid a knock out. Esteban you just can’t seem to write any other topic. This column is just plain stupid.
that’s funny. because I watched the post fight interview.. and Manny was there to answer ALL the reporters questions… but where was Clottey?
Clottey was sent to the hospital after the fight. I’m pretty sure he had some badly bruised or broken ribs.. .and that’s why during the fight he was shaking his leg.. because he was either hurt or cramped.
quit being a hater.
Ryu…agreed, Clottey fought how he ALWAYS fights so for people to think that he was going to pose a threat to Pac is ridiculous! In fact many of Pac’s fans on here were suggesting that it would be a more exciting fight than Floyd because Clottey likes to trade…RIGHHHTTTT
Come on! Really? Im sure your just a pacman hater more than anything else. Clottey can hit hard so of course Manny is going to like he got into a fight. Look at what Clottey did to Cottos face and Cotto still won ( I felt Clottey should have gotten a draw or a split but just my opinion ). And it was more then just Mannys speed. The punches had power behind them. Gave Clottey something to think about which explains his clam defense. If Clottey had opened up more he would have given Manny more chances to catch him with a clean fast shot and if that started happening Mannys game plan would have adjusted to the new openings. This is boxing. You adjust to what’s in front of you and we all know that Manny like to challenge himself against fighters to see if he can over come what they have to offer. He gave Clottey his chance but Clottey was too scared to take it. Even Clotteys corner was pleading with him to do someting. Clottey was scared and respected what Manny was throwing at him…..plain and simple. Oh and one more thing if you walked into a wall and busted your lip and lumped up your cheek people would think you just got your ass whipped. But all you did was walk into a wall..one hit…which probably only took a split second. Not a 108 hits and 3 minutes for 12 rounds.
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Spidercreep
MOWTONHITMAN- Actaully i refute 3 things you said….fact 4 and 5 are not facts at all.
Fact4- you said Clottey is not a heavy hitter, but Antonio Margarito said recently that Clottey hits harder than Cotto, and he should know he fought them both. The low KO is likely down to Clotteys low work rate than lack of power.
Fact5- Clottey did NOT fight how he normally does, for evidence watch the Clottey vs Cotto fight, he was WAY more attack minded probabaly because he did not fear as much the speed or power that Cotto showed him.
Fact7- Clottey actaually DID beat Cotto in my opinion, the decision was a disgrace, so you can actually add that Clottey has beaten Cotto, because in reality he did.
The rest you say IS fact
According to punch stats: Clottey vs Margaritto: Clottey threw 365 punches, and landed 171. In his fight vs Baldomir he actually threw the same amount of punches as in his fight with Pacquiao 399. So he wasn’t afraid he was just doing what he always does.
You idiot. Obviously Clottey’s face looks fine because he never brought his gloves away from it. However, I can bet u for sure his ribs are hurting right now. Just because his face looks untouched doesn’t mean he didn’t get beat up. Ever hear of body shots?
This is one of the dumbest article I’ve ever read.
Pac has come from 106 pounds clottey had a weight advantage of probaly 15 pounds on the night, so pacman is human he does bleed. Give the man credit he has such heart trading with guys much bigger than him.
totaly irrelevent pointless article there was a clear winner and a clear loser, does it matter who got more bruises. bring on mayflower if he can beat Sugar Shane and thats a big IF.
Aye!!!!!! Poor little man from tha Philippines can really get enuf credit.. Itc is what it is. Thurs pro n thurs a hater… What can I say
Pacquiao was clearly the winner lets not be silly about this, he won it DEFINATLY and OBVIOUSLY.
But his defence is in need of improvement. And saying that id have to say the clean landing flush shots were landed by Clottey not pacquiao. It DOES go to show what COULD have happened had Clottey threw caution to the wind and gone all out attack
Like to see what you like after just 1 punch from Clottey…
I’m not sure you watched the same fight as I did. You’re an idiot. CLottey was dominated
Fact #1 Clottey did not looked damaged after the fight.
Fact #2 Pac looked more worse for wear than Clottey
Fact #3 Margarito threw more punches against Clottey than Pac did
Fact #4 Clottey is muscular but in large part is not a heavy puncher thus his low KO%
Fact #5 Clottey fought the way he normally fights
Fact #6 Pac fought the way he normally fights
Fact #7 Clottey has 2 notable wins, one against a blown up Diego Corrales and Zab Judah
Fact #8 Arum kept his money in house
Fact #9 Pac is Arum’s money maker
Fact #10 The undercard stunk
I look for anyone to refute anything I said.
Haha! This article is stupid. You ask why does Manny look so knackered when Clottey wasn’t even sweating too much? Well, Pac threw around 1200 punches, Clottey didn’t even do a quarter of that. Period.
why dont we all agree to do this. when wee see an article by him never write a comment cause thats all hes trying to do get a reaction. so from now on we should just ignore him ANYONE AGREE.
this writer is f****n retard. pacquaio beaten by clottey? wtf. are you blind? clottey is the greatest coward of all time, he just come to dallas to get his paycheck and survived –nothing more.
To quote Ricky Hatton, “Its a boxing match, not a tickling contest”.
manuel perez = estaban garduno. it is the same pathetic writer after saying he would retire if pac beat hatton all he has done is changed his name what a sad pathetic little man.
oh man, give me back my 30 seconds! u just wasted my time, loads of bollocks mate. lol
I did also notice that Pacquiao’s face got beat up a bit. Just goes to show what could of happened if Clottey had the slightest amount of heart. Then again if clottey had some heart. This fight would of happened last November.
I sure wish there were some great Mexican fighters at the higher weight classes. I sure do miss the days of those classic pacman vs Mexico battles. Can’t say I have enjoyed watching a pacquiao fight for quite sometime now.
Hey esta, r u delusional, writing that Manny looked “slow”? Which fight were u watching? BTW, the reason that Manny looked more tired or as you say “Beaten up” was because he did all of the work. All clotty did was stood there with his hands up. Try jumping around, side to side, back and forth, using foot movements, punching (and getting punched) and see how u look. I have no idea why you’re considered a “writer”. Get a job!!!!
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Great article. Someone has to be the advocate.
Nice article Manuel Perez.
Is this Dave Lahr’s new pen name?