Fights at the Cowboy Stadium: I couldn’t care less about them
March 15th, 2010
By Chris Williams: I watched last Saturday night’s awful Joshua Clottey vs. Manny Pacquiao card at the Dallas Cowboy Stadium, and I got to say I personally don’t care whether there are any more fights at that stadium or any other stadium. Supposedly, this is something that is good for boxing to have fights shown in large stadiums. How is it good for me? I didn’t get anything from it. All I saw on Saturday night, while watching the fight on Pay-Per-View for $49.95, was an occasional pan of the camera to an unfilled stadium. How is that good for me?
I can see how it would be good for the promoter staging the fight and the owner of the stadium. But how is this good for boxing? If you’re arguing more people were allowed to come see the fight because of the large stadium, then I still don’t see that as being something that’s good for me and good for boxing. Those same people could have watched the fight on PPV, and still been able to see the fight.
Being at a stadium where you had to travel many miles to get there, pay a lot of money obviously with travel and hotel expense, doesn’t seem a good deal for the average boxing fan. And when you factor in that pretty much every fight on the card was a mismatch on paper going into the fight, it doesn’t seem like a good deal at all. How is it good for me to have fights shown at a stadium?
I just don’t see how this is something that gives me anything. I just want to watch boxing, and good boxing, not mismatches going into fights. Whether the fight is in a stadium are a barn, I don’t care. It doesn’t do anything for me. I think it would be good for boxing fans if the promoter of the fight had lowered the price of the PPV because he was making more money with the stadium.
Then I would be happy about a fight taking place in a stadium, but other than that, why should I care? I’m not going to live vicariously through the promoter, in this case Bob Arum, and be happy for his success in selling 50,000 seats for this mismatch between Clottey and Pacquiao.
Arum did well, but that didn’t do anything for me. I don’t care if they show any more fights in stadiums because there’s nothing that I’m getting out of it unless they want to start lowering the price of the PPV. Other than that, I don’t give a fig whether the fight is shown in a stadium or not. For a stadium that had 50,000 people in it, the Dallas Cowboy Stadium was deathly quiet for the entire care last Saturday night.
I wonder if that had anything to do with all the mismatches. For me, I think this would have made a halfway decent ESPN 2 card, but not one that you actually have to pay for.
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Manny should only fight in stadiums from now on. Obviously he can sell the tickets even when fighting someone not well known to the general public. Would be nice to see more stadium fights in our time.
@jaybles
ok let’s have some boxing logic for a change actually there are a lot of boxing fans here with a ton of boxing logic but seems to get overwhelmed ( myself included) with the bias and stupidity of some of the posters here,
now according to jaybles paq would lose to mosley…. how??
the fight with mosley and cotto the two of them unleashed massive bombs of power and flush hits either went down they lasted 12 rounds, so in essence the two of them was able to take either power, but when cotto fought paq it was a totally different story ( see where im coming from here jay??)cotto could not handle paq’s power and paq handled him pretty well, so what does say about mosley? well ladies and gentlemen we all know mosley had been knocked down before he has a pretty good chin but nothing compared to manny, manny has never been knocked down from a head shot, ( calm down dont get your panties in a bunch, the last time he was knocked down was from a body shot) so thru a statistical stand point i see manny rocking mosley and a higher percentage of winning by ko.
@ Chris Williams
your another hypocrite u just stated that u could’t care less about paqiuao but it seems that u can’t stop writing about him amazing, stop this articles then if u don’t care but why is that u wrote 4 articles on the 15th lol and one today about manny’s bout?? seems to me you secretly love manny paquiao come on dont be shy go ahed and admit it.
if you were a real boxing writer you would have been ringside not watching on a tv
oli you talk sense you in north west?
the venue was bang on every one i have spoke to was more impressed with the venue than the undercard for sure
this is all arum’s fault honestly
I was at the event and if i had to rate it—-> POOR! Im sorry i dont like to talk negative but it was very poor. Ive been in several boxing events (in & outside arenas) boxing in a stadium should never take place the atmosphere is joke.
The undercard c’mon its in a stadium “THE COWBOY STADIUM”
All boxers put up a bad performance (ALL) except Roberto Marroquin the kid is from dallas, tx and KO Samuel Sanchez but u guys didnt get to watch that it wasn’t live the rest…
- Castillo u know he did that for the paycheck
- John Duddy thought he was going to be exciting to watch but no.
- Soto should’ve & could’ve KO Diaz within any round.
- Love the pac-man but u know clottey was bought.
The alcoholics that drink beer that the only choice was MILLER LITE that was mest up lol U shouldve seen their faces i i was laughin but hey i heard their was some dosxx.
I also feel bad for the nfl fans going to the Superbowl next year dont take my word for it ask the nba fans too how they like their all-star experience eventhough it was on Dallas and the Cowboy stadium is at Arlington but is the same been their 3x even the night life is POOR and im not a party pooper.
Oooo and the taxi’s forget it not organize im sure theirs lotz of complaints lets just say i will never go to Dallas/Arlington Texas again.
no i wasnt there but the excitement level from the stadium usually can be felt on tv. when the atmosphere is electric it adds to the tv experience, and this was not the loud electric crowd i expected, or it at least didnt project that way.
yeah! yeah! they were cherry picked for Pacquiao.
this guy was damaged goods, that guy was too reckless, the other guy was hyped, then another was too old, then yadayadayada…
all excuses.
in retrospect. Pacquiao fought all the best in the divisions he fought on. some of you guys on this blog obviously don’t give a it about rankings in the lower weight classes or if it not some American that’s fighting.
One champion after another fell in his wake. 4 future hall of famers. a tough Brit, a proud Puerto Rican, a brutal Ghanian.
You americans make ppl sick with your constant moaning. I watched the fight and i enjoyed it, even tho my fighter Clottey lost. I still enjoyed it.
And from what i saw on TV the stadium looked great, the British commentators said they had yet to see a more impressive stadium. It looked good on TV, it sounded good on Tv also. So i hope that Dallas becomes a regular venue for big time world title fights in the future, the next MGM grand. Because think about it, Vegas venues seat about 16,000, and for good seats im sure you will need to pay about 700. Its stupid when you can have 40 or 50,000 fans instead.
Cowboys Stadium= Great venue for boxing, hope it continues
the fight was a success,her they will do it again.did you hear the cheering and chanting of manny name?heard manny made 14 millions and cottey made 3 millions+.
guess your upset pac didnt get knock out,but blew cottey away ,he out counter the counter puncher.
HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU THINK MAYWEATHER vs mosely WOULD BRING TO DALLAS,more then pacquiao would.I SAW NOTHIN BUT cowboys players and coaches not much of other stars.
i dont know if it was bc of the incredibly unexciting fight but i didnt see anything special about cowboys stadium. looked like any other fight to me the atmosphere was by no means electric.
More people can see the fight because they don’t have to pay $500 for the nosebleed section in Vegas. The working man deserves the right to attend top level fights as well
Haven’t you heard what the commentators are saying? Pacman is to Lebron James of basketball. He brought 51,000 fans in a stadium! Fans who’ll watch in awe even if Pacquiao just shadowboxed in the middle of that ring. The other one, can’t even fill the MGM grand and had to fake a rib injury to have longer time selling tickets.
wow… the level of intelligence of the writers on this site is amazing.
I don’t think May 1st will be boring.
Every Mayweather fight is boring he’s better than Ambien in putting a viewer to sleep
@ anonymous
You can bring up the Pacroid thing, and me living through his dreams and blah blah blah nonsense. You can’t prove that he does it, and I can’t prove that he hasn’t use it. All I know is he hasn’t failed a drug test yet, so there is no standard or previous history to say he’s a user except the fact that he refuses to take the tests.
I agree, it’s skeptical. But if it is HGH that we are concerned about, just know that all humans carry a form of HGH that helps us grow,and if we have an excess of HGH in the blood stream, we develop typically symptoms of its use (example, greasy “zits”, bone overgrowth, more hardened masculine features, muscle growth.) It also takes more that 24 days to be of some benefit to the user, if we’re speaking of muscle and bone growth.
You can say what you want. That’s what this site is for. Sure, say that I’m living my dreams through Pacman, but not from the Philippines so I can’t relate to the hardship that those people and my family go through, because I was born here. But knowing how they struggle and seeing someone like Pacquiao make it from lifting bags of rice to boning Filipino models does bring a smile to my face. He’s not the greatest or most moral person in the world, but neither was Muhammad Ali. He’s just a damn good boxer.
@ anonymous
You can bring up the Pacroid thing, and me living through his dreams and blah blah blah nonsense. You can’t prove that he does it, and I can’t prove that he hasn’t use it. All I know is he hasn’t failed a drug test yet, so there is no standard or previous history to say he’s a user except the fact that he refuses to take the tests.
I agree, it’s skeptical. But if it is HGH that we are concerned about, just know that all humans carry a form of HGH that helps us grow,and if we have an excess of HGH in the blood stream, we develop typically symptoms of its use (example, greasy “zits”, bone overgrowth, more hardened masculine features, muscle growth.) It also takes more that 24 days to be of some benefit to the user, if we’re speaking of muscle and bone growth.
You can say what you want. That’s what this site is for. Sure, say that I’m living my dreams through Pacman, but not from the Philippines so I can’t relate to the hardship that those people and my family go through, because I was born here. But knowing how they struggle and seeing someone like Pacquiao make it from lifting bags of rice to boning Filipino models does bring a smile to my face. He’s not the greatest or most moral person in the world, but neither was Muhammad Ali. He’s just a damn good boxer.
@ killa
Agreed, the fight was wack. We all expected more from the fight. People were either hoping for a Pacquiao knockout or a Clottey knockout. That’s just the way with Manny’s fights. But that’s just the way that Clottey fights. Its slow, careful and offensive wise, just plodding. But he was put on the defensive the entire time by Pacquaio’s offense. His offense was exciting to watch, but everything else sucked.
@ killa
Agreed, the fight was wack. We all expected more from the fight. People were either hoping for a Pacquiao knockout or a Clottey knockout. That’s just the way with Manny’s fights. But that’s just the way that Clottey fights. Its slow, careful and offensive wise, just plodding. But he was put on the defensive the entire time by Pacquaio’s offense. His offense was exciting to watch, but everything else sucked.
You can bring up the Pacroid thing, and me living through his dreams and blah blah blah nonsense. You can’t prove that he does it, and I can’t prove that he hasn’t use it. All I know is he hasn’t failed a drug test yet, so there is no standard or previous history to say he’s a user except the fact that he refuses to take the tests.
I agree, it’s skeptical. But if it is HGH that we are concerned about, just know that all humans carry a form of HGH that helps us grow,and if we have an excess of HGH in the blood stream, we develop typically symptoms of its use (example, greasy “zits”, bone overgrowth, more hardened masculine features, muscle growth.) It also takes more that 24 days to be of some benefit to the user, if we’re speaking of muscle and bone growth.
You can say what you want. That’s what this site is for. Sure, say that I’m living my dreams through Pacman, but not from the Philippines so I can’t relate to the hardship that those people and my family go through, because I was born here. But knowing how they struggle and seeing someone like Pacquiao make it from lifting bags of rice to boning Filipino models does bring a smile to my face. He’s not the greatest or most moral person in the world, but neither was Muhammad Ali. He’s just a damn good boxer.
the fight was boring as hell, and arum, roach and pac fans were saying this was a fighters fight, one that’ll be much more exciting then pac/may. its pac fans that are so dumb as to buy this crap and beleive everything that arum and roach says. this is exactly what arum is banking on and its working everytime.
So, you don’t care about boxing at all. Why would you care if boxing is happening at a local gym. Why becuase it doesn’t entertain you and your fighter. What a dumbass.
@ Whatever
keep living your dreams through Pacroid.
@ LAPUK .name fighters that manny fought that mayweather didn’t that were the best fighters.moreles was a slugger but aint one of the best fighters.THE only person i give him is cotto but he just came off of bad performances
@Whatever
Nice mini article, but the fight was still wack.
Mr Romero
Pac fans can and will pay to watch him fight. He hasn’t been in a boring fight yet, he’s exciting, fun to watch and he’s one of the few Asian athletes that is dominating a sport that is typically dominated by other cultures and races.
And you’re right. You got to love America. We have and can make choices here in America, for example, we can choose to purchase or not purchase a PPV fight. You state that “This fight was one the biggest disappointments I’ve ever seen…,” implying that you either bought the fight, or watched it free through the internet, friend’s house, etc. You think Pacquiao’s overrated, but you chose to watch him fight, even if it was to see him possibly be beat by Clottey. So it was choice you made to watch it, and if you’re a true boxing fan, you must have known Clottey’s style does not make for exciting fights, so you must have been able to anticipate that this fight could have been boring. But you chose to watch anyway, so I don’t think you should be able to criticize people or Pac fans for showing interest and buying the fight.
Plus, only in America can a poor Filipino boxer from the streets become a international star through fighting some of the best boxers out there.
Go on and continue to hate on Pac fans. Our country is poor, we don’t have much to take pride in, so we take pride in watching him fight and win. It’s a simple concept that haters tend to overlook.
And I’ll go on to say that I work hard to make my money, and I’ll enjoy spending it any way I like. You don’t like paying for megafights on PPV? Don’t buy them then. Stick to ESPN and youtube for your fights.
All I saw was that the stadium wasn’t filled?
oh man???? attendance is 50k plus. It didn’t filled the stadium? Man of course its 100k capacity. good thing it had half of it. and the 3rd largest attendance in boxing fight. You need commonsense man. LOL. Mayweather might not even get 17k capacity on MGM on his fight. Oh oh yes alot free stuff when you buy the ticket LOL.
the only thing over rated here is mayweather ! That chump doesn’t even fight the best!
Pacquiao is crazy overrated and will get knocked unconscious by mayweather or mosley. Now bring on the hate from all you ignorant pacquiao fans.
I agree with you 100% the Undercards Suck big time. And i do blame Bob A. for that. And then there is the main event. After watching a Defensive minded Boxer why would i want to see mayweather I want Mostley to win and fight Manny
Go Oregon Ducks and thanks for your Column
To have this be the first fight at the Cowboy’s stadium was embarrasing for boxing. Not even close to entertaining.