Does Ruiz win respect if he KOs Haye?

By William Mackay: There are a fair amount of boxing fans that don’t particularly care for former two-time WBA heavyweight champion John Ruiz (44-8-1, 30 KO’s) as a fighter. Many of those fans don’t like Ruiz’s old style of fighting in which he would clinch and wrestle a great deal in his fights.

It may not have been a crowd-pleasing style of fighting, but it worked well for Ruiz, allowing him to win two world titles, beat fighters like Hasim Rahman, Fres Oquendo, Evander Holyfield, Kirk Johnson, Andre Golota, Tony Tucker and Jameel McCline.

That’s an impressive list of wins that Ruiz has piled up during his 18-year pro career. Ruiz has a made a lot of money, and still is fighting at a very high level despite his advanced age. On April 3rd, Ruiz will be challenging for the World Boxing Association heavyweight title against title holder David Haye at the M.E.N. Arena, Manchester, Lancashire.

Few people are giving Ruiz much of a chance to score an upset over the younger 29-year-old Haye. However, if Ruiz does end up stopping Haye, one has to wonder whether Ruiz will finally start winning some begrudging respect from boxing fans for his accomplishments in the ring. If Ruiz is going to win, it will likely be by knockout rather than decision, because Haye has a weak chin and he leaves himself open often when he throws his big haymaker shots that he tends to throw in his fights.

Haye fought mostly under control in winning the WBA title against 7-foot Nikolay Valuev last November, only occasionally throwing a big right hand. However, Haye injured his right hand early in the fight after connecting with a big right to the top of Valuev’s head, and was forced to fight the remainder of the way only throwing sporadic right hands.

Against the 6’2” Ruiz, Haye will have someone that he’ll likely feel comfortable enough to open up with his big power shots. Haye hasn’t any heavyweights other than Valuev that could be considered quality fighters, and has been able to get away with throwing his looping shots. Ruiz, though, is a professional and he could take advantage of Haye’s somewhat amateurish style of fighting and clip him with some big shots.

Ruiz can punch a lot harder than many people give him credit for, as he has a powerful uppercut that he likes to throw when in close. If Haye makes the mistake of opening up his offense with both guns blazing, Ruiz is going to be able to get his shots in and test Haye’s weak chin. Haye may have been a fast cruiserweight, but he looks much slower at heavyweight, and gets hit now way more than he used to.

Against Valuev, Haye moved continuously and never gave the big Russian much of a chance to land that often. However, that’s not a style that Haye can win fights with. He doesn’t move well enough while circling the ring, and doesn’t throw enough punches while on the move.

Haye beat Valuev by a narrow decision, but it’s not a style that Haye will be able to beat better heavyweights with. For Haye to find success against Ruiz or the other better heavyweights in the division, Haye is going to have to use the power that brought him to this level and see if he can succeed against the bigger heavyweights.

It may be that Haye’s power isn’t big enough for him to beat the better heavyweights than Valuev, but he’s going to have to find that out by testing himself. I think Ruiz could end up beating Haye whether the British heavyweight runs all night long like he did against Valuev or if he stands and trades shot. Ruiz could take Haye out if David opts to trade shots.

That would be a big win for Ruiz, and breathe new life into his boxing career. I can see some fans finally showing Ruiz respect, especially if he really goes after Haye and causes him to run for his life like he did against Valuev. Haye can’t run from another heavyweight without looking bad. He had an excuse in his last fight because of his hand injury and the size of Valuev, that won’t be the case against the 6’2” 38-year-old Ruiz. There can’t be any excuses for not standing and trading this time.


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21 Responses to “Does Ruiz win respect if he KOs Haye?”

  • patpump says:

    Ruiz is over the hill and does not have any outstanding skills but he’s smart and rough enough to beat Haye.

  • badgoodmovies says:

    Maybe this is a stepping stone fight for Haye. He’s not gonna win new fans or convince haters with a win over Ruiz.

  • jackson+ says:

    bottom line, ruiz is way over the hill and was never very good to begin with, but the fight is hard to figure out because valuev is the same as ruiz, a don king fighter who would never have had a title without don king to protect him with easy fights and gift decisions, neither of them may have cracked the top 10 without the don king circuit…but i have to think that haye’s speed will make it an easy night for him…if he loses to ruiz, it doesnt give ruiz status, it takes it away from haye, who should probably give up any aspirations of being a decent heavyweight…a win for haye, is like the win over valuev, it still tells us nothing, he needs to fight a heavyweight in their prime…..chagaev would even be a start…or any of the ones that fast eddie recently fought

  • jackson+ says:

    haye has good reflexes but has never had a good defense, he leans his head out over his hands and then loops his punches, leaving himself wide open…he could overcome this by more punch output, but he seems to tire easily, he could also help himself by sliding and hitting, but he seems to have to get his feet under him to throw, he has fast hands, but is not as fast as chambers and is no faster than vladimir, add to this that his punch is good but not great, there are problems, after all many have knocked out barrett easier and valuev has been staggered by light hitters like barrett, add to that haye has been staggered and knocked down by mormeck (he held on for an entire round) and there is a reason he is staying with the over 35 senior heavyweight division…as don king’s latest livestock…when don king handled brewster he never defended against a legitimate top 10 heavyweight, valuev fought 2, haye one of them, and lost to both….

  • Hudson says:

    Everything Pete says is spot on. Could not agree with him more.

    One query on Haye is his stamina. I would like to see a higher volume of punches and for him to maintain his power into the latter rounds. Time will tell.

    As for Ruiz Haye will dish him Haye all night and counter is his pressuring style with power.

  • N J says:

    @ David, seriously Wlad’s jab is not more powerful than one of Haye’s power punches. And i’m not backing haye up here, its just not true. If you’d have compared power punch to power punch then it’d be debatable.

    and @Pete your comments are spot on mate.

    People already have their minds made up about fighters and come out with all sorts of rubbish just to hate on them.

  • Pete says:

    @ mr chicken

    When Haye fought Thompson that was Haye’s 11th professional fight and that was 6 years ago. Since then Haye has unified the cruiserweight division and won the heavyweight title. Also, lucky is not spelt luckie – you clown.

  • David says:

    @Jonesy

    your a idiot most exciting heavyweight since Tyson lol and Haye doesnt have most power 1 shot in the divison Wladimir’s jab is more powerful then Haye Powershot

  • ricanstruction says:

    Love it or hate it,If ruiz win’s ,Puerto rico made history,Twice,By becomeing the first latin heavyweight champion AGAIN.

  • scotty1 says:

    The rise of Ruiz coincides with the decline of heavyweight boxing. The only excitement he provided was getting stretched out against Tua. Now that was awesome!

  • chinquanto says:

    Ruiz is a suposed to be a free ride for this bum haye ruiz is a finshed fighter and Haye is a fighter who will never ……..

  • gio says:

    @jonesy most exciting fighter since tyson?! lmao, plz just stop. If runnin around the ring is exciting for you then by all means go for it. But there hasn’t been an exciting fighter since tyson. I would say maybe lewis? Tua? but they were there at the same time as tyson so yeah.

  • z says:

    i think he would deserve respect rahman got respect when he beat lennox, im not saying that haye is lennox but it would still be a quality knockout.

  • straightup says:

    Jimbo: Haye hasn’t been knocked out, because his (only) loss to Thompson was a TKO, with the ref jumping in ’cause Haye had exhausted himself. I know it’s picky, but technically Jonesy was right.

  • Pete says:

    “Haye hasn’t any heavyweights other than Valuev that could be considered quality fighters” – Give the guy a chance he has only just moved up in weight.

    “he could take advantage of Haye’s somewhat amateurish style of fighting” – Amateurish? He was the undisputed cruiserweight champion. He is fast, has good movement, he counter punches with the best of them and is one of the P4P hardest hitters in the world.

    “Haye may have been a fast cruiserweight, but he looks much slower at heavyweight, and gets hit now way more than he used to” – Based on what fight? Go on… what heavyweight fight has Haye had that a) He has looked slower and b) He gets hit more? Your statement is based on fantasy.

    “It may be that Haye’s power isn’t big enough for him to beat the better heavyweights than Valuev” – He rocked Valuev with his weaker hand. Need I say more?

    “Ruiz could take Haye out if David opts to trade shots” – Based on what evidence? Ruiz has only stopped Serin, Tisdale and Oquendo in the last 10 years. Two stoppages in his last 15 fights and you think he can stop Haye? A guy who before Valuev was 22 wins 21 KO’s.

    “That would be a big win for Ruiz” – Understatement of a lifetime.

  • left hook says:

    I think a win for Haye would be good for the division. Love him or hate him, Haye creates a fair bit of interest. If Ruiz wins, its a waste because the guy is going to retire any day. I’d like to see Haye win convincingly then fight David Tua. This would be a slugfest i would happily pay to see.

  • john,e says:

    I see hayes being to fast and to Strong for Ruiz but if this prove to be an upset then hayes would been back to square one.

  • Shane says:

    I would love to see OLD MAN ruiz pound on Haye…if for nothing more than excitement and giggles. There is just something about hayes MOUTH that turns me sour against him….and Im not a ruize fan either. Im from the U.S.A., but im a K brothers fan

  • Jimbo says:

    Jonesy Haye has been knocked out, by Thompson.

  • jonesy1981@live.co.uk says:

    mally he didnt choose to fight ruiz he is mandatory challenger and to be fair there aint many top level fights out there as for the writer of the article what a muppet haye does not have a week chin he has never been knocked out and saying he doesnt have enough power is just a silly silly comment he has the best single shot knock out power in the division and plenty speed to go with it fast hands for a big guy most exciting heavy weight since tyson time you retards gave him respect and started enjoying the one man show!

  • jonner says:

    haye will be way to good for ruiz

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