Does Pacquiao lack the ring expertise to beat Mayweather and Mosley?
March 20th, 2010
By Esteban Garduno: I have to admit that what I saw of Manny Pacquiao against Joshua Clottey didn’t give me a feeling that Pacquiao could beat or even compete with the likes of Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather Jr. Boxing is a science, a sport of the mind if you will. The fighters are ones that are experts at ring strategy and who know how to capitalize on their opponents mistakes. I see Mosley and Mayweather being the ultimate ideal at coming up with a strategy to beat their opponents and then following it to the letter. Sadly, I didn’t see that from Pacquiao in his fight with Clottey.
Those guys would have gotten a clue probably immediately that it’s a waste of time to throw punches down the middle straight at Clottey’s gloves. So why didn’t Pacquiao figure this out? Why did he waste punches round after rounds, just spraying punches at Clottey’s gloves, as if he was hoping they would drop at some point. I think there no was real plan behind it.
It seemed like madness to me to throw punches that were being blocked. It was impressive that Pacquiao could average 100 punches thrown per found for 12 rounds, but that’s not really a big deal. A lot of fighters can do this. He’s not the first or the last fighters that will throw that many punches.
Bigger fighters like Joe Calzaghe, a super middleweight, and Paul Williams, a light middleweight, both have averaged over 100 punches per round in a lot of their fights. The difference here is that they seem much better at placing their shots in areas where they feel that they have a better chance of landing.
What I saw of Pacquiao in his fight with Clottey was a fighter that was just throwing a massive amount of punches without aiming them. I couldn’t make out what Roach was telling Pacquiao in between rounds, because he was whispering to him a lot of the time. However, I would like to have hoped that Roach was telling Pacquiao to start doing a better job of throwing shots in different areas than just the gloves of Clottey.
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Um he follwed the game plan to near perfection. Clottey has good defence and is very hard to hit flush. Roach knew Clotty aint gona exchange with Manny coz he’d get KO’d so by Manny throwing all those punchs it takes away Clotteys offence. Manny also went to the body alot which was a CLEAR game plan.
PS I’m a huge fan of Mosley but to say he is “ideal at coming up with a strategy to beat their opponents and then following it to the letter” is wrong. He lost to Forrest and Winky twice and faught both fights near the same way.
The Rock will be laughing at all the Floyd fans and especially at Floyd when the new testing program using URINE called Nanotrap comes out. It is better than any blood test will ever be. And I bet Arum will be using this test to ensure no blood will be taken out of the people’s champ….Manny Pacquiao. And Floyd will be chickening out and clucking all the way back to his big boy Mansion that will soon be on foreclosure real soon.
@ Oh Snaps
All those fighters were fighting at or above welterweight (147) in 2008, when pacquiao was fighting at superfeatherweight (130) and lightweight (135)…In addition, whatever weight those fighters you mentioned were fighting at, pacquiao was usually fighting 3 weight classes below
PS- Sweet Pea retired in 02 when we was fighting at 154…pacquiao was fighting at 122…do your HW
PS – pac fought ledwaba and clottey…and they both are african black…aka REAL BLACK DUDES…
@ Oh snaps… thats like saying floyd never fought a top puerto rican fighter…it sounds stupid as do you
i hope you’re not one of those overly sensitive black dudes who look at race whenever they want to bash someone not black
I’m just saying, dude has fought since the beginning f time and his resume does not contain one elite black fighter, not one. Tell pPac only tires leaves black marks on surfaces, the African-American fighters will bruise him up but the marks will heal with time, the gloves are red, so nothing to fear but a beatdown. Well and a drug test.
7 belt in different weight classes and stil has not fought one Top Black African-American fighter. Zab, Shane, Floyd, Sweet Pea, P. Williams.
Ok, Even give the first five rounds in favor to floydie, Still no chance to win, coz pacman will knock out in every round from six to twelve and he will wake-up in the hospital right after … donut will gone…all leads to floydie is gone…cash cow of boxing is gone…biggest draw in boxing is gone…self proclaim greats is gone…and permanent retirement for floydie
7 belt in different weight class men, c’mon!!!!
all arguments will disposed to garbage
no boxer made the same record, its phenomenal right?
NO NEVER!
I dont wont Floyd to loos on Paquio.
Why I concern too much to Manny I don wan Manny hurt Floyd.
I lov Floyd.
I wanna mary him.
You got me in the Heart.
Deep inside I like Manny Pacquiao.
“Attn Floyd’s Fans,
What’s the matter with you?
Why are you concerned about Pacquiao’s health so much?
You say that Pacquiao has no chance against your Floyd.
So are you so concerned about Manny Pacquiao’s well being?
Are you concerned that Manny will be embarassed after the
fight and loose his credibility along with the Team Pacquiao
and all of his rabid fans?
Why are you too much concerned and afraid of Paquiao loosing
to Floyd?
Are you all secret Pacquiao Fans…really…deep inside…admit it?
Or…Is it the other way around? You are afraid that Floyd
will loose to Pacquiao?
Come-on Floyd Fans, make up your mind….”
Pac vs May, No gloves, in the parking lot of a Wal-Mart!
manny better just stick to fighting b-level fighters…mayweather would embaress manny and all the pactards !!
PAcquiao still has soo much SPEED SIZE AND POWER at WELTERWEIGHT!! Its realllly SCARY!!!!Ok MAyweather nuthuggers..FACT..PACQUIAOS Ring weight against Morales 144 Barrera 144 JMM 145..Diaz 147..DLH 148..Hatton 148…Cotto 147..Clottey 149..HOW DOES HE MOVE UP from FW ALL the way to WWeight AND KEEP HIS speed power ?? ITS A MYSTERY!!..must be steroids..OR that he has been fighting around the same weight for 5 years come fight night so of coarse his speed/power remains..
@you know I’m right, it is a GUARANTEE that all blood testing for drugs will be rendered OBSOLETE and replaced by more advanced NON INVASIVE drug testing. You are just too caught up in Floyd’s bulls*&%t to see that the ONLY reason he EVER wanted blood testing had NOTHING to do with the actual testing for drugs. Moron.
guys why don’t you review the pakman-clottey?? just round 1…
that’s all it takes for me to conclude why clottey acted that
way that night…
the guy was terrified, afraid, overwhelmed,beaten, and psychologically afraid… case closed.
@ u knw ur right,
i can’t understand you dude, you’re always saying that floyd can easily bet pac but at the same time your asking him to take the random test………….. which is which?
if you think pac is an easy target then why asking him for random tests? of all his previous fights why now?…… we know he did it to mosley (the random test) to save face….
@You Know I’m Right
Shove your list to your smelly ass!
Here are the undeniable facts:
- 3-time fighter of the year
- Fighter of the decade
- 7 championship belts (record)
- The most exciting boxer
- Boxers’ favorite boxer
In your face, a@s hole!
im not totally convinced on floyd’s fights. one because he dont want to fight the best. cotto, margarito, mosley (he was just forced on this one to the point that ellerbe and golden boy are furious), clottey and other top notch welterweights. second, most or all fighters he fought compliments to money’s style. he simply can’t beat someone stronger than him in terms of power or speed + punching power that marga, mosley and pac got.
im a pac fan but if floyd beats shance convincingly, i believe floyd is the best there is in this era.
hope the megafight will push thru later this year, i want to see the best in this era slug it out and the winner will be at the level of the all-time greats
Just put Floyd and Moseley in the ring against Pacquiao,..2 for 1 one after the other for 24 rounds of boxing on the same night, 12rds for Moseley and 12 rds for Floyd for the finale’,…. I would still put my bet on the smaller guy.
all i can say is…if you can punch through a peekaboo defense…then by all means talk all you want…but if you can’t then shut up…if you can win 7 titles in 7 dfferent weight divisions…then by all means talk all you want…but if you can’t then shut up…if you’ve beaten the best the spot has to offer…then by all means talk…if you have’nt…then shut up…
manny is not lke bighmouth floyd who fights fighters who he knows he can beat…
i hope mosley destroys him…
You guys can say whatever you can say good or bad things against Pacquiao, but at the end of his fight, who’s the loser? Isn’t it the fans? especially those who bet against Pacman! So quit posting negative comments.
Manny is voted by BWAA as Fighter of the Decade. How about Mayweather, Jr???
if Pacman,himself, wants to win, he will. thats all!
MAYWeather could dodge the punches from pacman but not all. besides he has only one style and use it till the end of the fight. poor boy! pacman has some various styles that he could switch on to, depends on the opponent. the other thing is which is the big advantage for pac. Mayweather’s weakness is a brawler type fighter and at the same time has incredible speed.
remember pacman isn’t just a reckless brawler. He is aggresive at the same time fast, have more stamina and excellent defense, discipline, power punch. all the elements that can beat floyd.
there’s nobody in their right minds that would even believe what you’re saying mr. writer, that pac has no chance with either shane or floyd, really. what’s in you is hatred and envy, racist thing against the filipino legend. when the times that pac fight either of the two, let’s got some our nerves out betting thousand dollars and watch the fight together live. your articles are getting out of proper reasoning and logic. you maybe even happier you’ve been a very popular writer in expense of attacking pacquiao. shame on you!
Yall have to excuse me, i’m enjoying myself way too much here tonight. Let me give credit. Pac is an amazing explosive bag of fire power non-stop. He is a Hall of fame fighter. Very exciting to watch. But what history has proven to be true, is punchers/brawlers all eventually loose to pure boxers. Floyd is a pure boxer no doubt about that. There are several fighters who began as being brawlers, but those who went on to be great fighters eventually learned to box and not just rely on speed and power. Mike Tyson is the perfect example of someone who did not learn to do so. If you can not stop a straight overhand right, duck, get out of the way, systematically break down your defensive opponent, your success is limited. Floyd is simply a gifted boxer, who combines offense and damn near unheard of defense. This will be a good fight, but I think it will be a one sided fight with floyd dominating like he did with Marquez. Marquez is still a great fighter, cant take nothing away from him either. But Floyd is just above the competition. And like I end all of my post, let me go on record again and say it, Paul Williams I believe will destroy Pac,Shane and Floyd.
Lols read it again whodat?
LED LCD screen dude lol, time to move on past the 13 inch black and white tv your watching fights on. Dude, seriously you almost made me spill my drink laughing so hard at you. I dont mean to be mean spirited, but seriously dude you said that because you wanted to join the debate and argue something lol, what I dont know, but either your AM transistor radio is jacked up or your 13 inch black and white tv is busted like your dumb comment.
Look what he did to Clotteys face lol, are you kidding me or are you sniffing powder lol. Dude, turn your tivo on and you will easily see Pac face is the one that was beat up. Dude, seriously, get a better tv or stop doing drugs, cause either your eyes are blind or your brain is shot lol. what a joke lol. Get out of mommas basement sneaking on the internet.
Too bad PBF is not as confident as you all are, and thinks IT’S TOO RISKY to fight this small, retarded, one-dimensional, predictable, slower, weaker, overrated boxer because … “oooh he’s on Peds! I ain’t fighting nobody on peds. No no no, he gonna kill me. I maybe the greatest boxer of all time but no no no. I maybe untouchable but u.umm no way no no no. Peds will make him stronger like hulk. Peds make him throw 1200 punches! Look at wat he did to clottey’s face! No no no
floyd the greatest , no one can touch him.he moves like he on glass.back peddel, back peddle
0wee…damm he untouchable pop,pop damm he hits hard,punches comes from nowhere pop,pop,yea…..feel that power.0ooo….feel that arm,mosley easy picking,easy, picking,know why?because Iam the greatest pop and run,its all about not getting hit,call me chicken,call me a rich alive chicken its all the same.
why is their no new article about floyd mayweather and mosley fight on the web today ? no interest? got it ,not much to talk about as two fighters are pretty much the same both claim the other avoiding him.both black and have the same fan base.both claim to rule the w.w, even the slogan is lame who your picking,I would pick “{who the man}” Iam , no Iam sound more challenging .floyd lose they fight again next year,
TO ALL PACHATERS & PBF FANS,
YOURE ALL SAYING PBF IS BETTER, PBF IS THE BEST OF THE BEST. PACMAN HAS NO CHANCE AGAINST HIM. YOU ALL BELIEVE THIS WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
THE FACT IS – PBF IS MORE EXPERIENCED, BIGGER, HAS 5” LONGER REACH, HE HAS ALL THE ADVANTAGE.
PACQUIAO ASKED FOR A BIGGER RING. AFRAID HE MIGHT NEED A BIGGER AREA TO RUN WHEN HE IS BEING CHASED BY A BIGGER , BETTER OPPONENT.
PACQUIAO ASKED FOR 50/50. MAYBE HE THOUGHT HE EARNED IT AFTER WHAT HE ACCOMPLISHED. OR MAYBE HE THOUGHT SINCE PBF IS BIGGER, BETTER & EVERYTHING YOU SAY HE IS, HE WILL GET BEATEN UP BADLY ANYWAY, SO WHY NOT GET HALF.
PACQUIAO ASKED FOR A 10-MIILION/LB. TO GET MORE MONEY JUST IN CASE PBF WILL BE HEAVIER, HE WILL BE AT THE RECEIVING END OF HEAVIER BLOWS AND WILL GET BEATEN UP MORE BADLY THAN HE EXPECTED.
PBF ASKED FOR OLYMPIC STYLE TESTING. THE FIRST EVER PROFESSIONAL BOXER TO DO SO. HE CLAIMS HE WANTS TO CLEAN THE BOXING SYSTEM WHICH WAS WORKING FINE FOR HIM & EVERYONES ELSE UNTIL NOW. OR HE IS AFRAID THAT PACQUIAO, THIS LITTLE RETARDED MIDGET FROM A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY WITH PEDS IN HIS SYSTEM MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE A CHANCE TO BEAT HIM? THIS IS THE FIGHTER YOU’RE ALL CRAZY ABOUT? AND THIS BOXER IS GOING TO BE A HALL OF FAMER? CAN’T HE JUST USE PEDS TOO AND STILL HAVE ALL THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING BIGGER, BETTER, 5” REACH LONGER, MORE EXPERIENCE, SMARTER AND ALL THAT YOU SAY HE IS
YOU ARE FOLLOWING BLINDLY.
WHO’S THE JOKE?
Floyd will throw 1,500 punches in the Mosley fight… just wait and see!
A Pacquiao-Mayweather fight would be very hard to predict. Yea, Mayweather can land big counter shots on Pacquiao all night. But can floyd hurt pac with his counters? If he cant, then how is floyd going to keep pac from staying busy and possibly stealing the rounds with his aggression? Floyd is tremendous technically but he has given away rounds to nonstop, aggressive fighters. Nonstop aggressive who can not keep the pase like Pacquiao can. You can say Floyd is unbeatable but he’s really not because he lost to a guy who at the time was a non stop aggressive fighter called Jose Luis Castillo. Floyd also lost rounds to Zab Judah, Ricky Hatton, and of course Castillo. All fighters with busy styles, fighters who cant be compared to Manny Pacquiao in versatility. Oscar De La Hoya gave Floyd a close fight with a Freddie Roach game plan of being AGGRESSIVE. THE BEST AGGRESSIVE FIGHTER IN THE WORLD TODAY IS MANNY PACQUIAO. Get my point?
there is no way pac can take floyd mayweather. he was looking weak, tired, slower against clottey who banged em hard whenever he did hit em. fight did look fixed. maywather for the champ! now mosley much tougher opponent.
Floyd’s the greatest fighter of all time!
the person who wrote this column has a very good point if pacquiao is throwing 1200 punches against the gloves of clottey for 12 rounds a very one dimensial fighter who has average defence he cannot beat mayweather.mayweather is one of the best boxer defensively and he could most definatley figure a way out .The tactic clottey used could pay off for mayweather againt pacquao cos he is defensively intelligent and can pick clever punches,is very good on ropes and maybe can knock pacman out.Also i would like to say pacman is a good boxer but his last couple of fights were not as impressive as thought ,
HE BEAT GOLDEN BOY WHO WAS BEAT AT THE WEIGH IN HE LOOKED AND HE WAS WAY BELOW HIS BEST AT THE AGE OF 36
HATTON HAD PREVIUSLY LOST TO MAYWEATHER AND AFTER THAT HE LOST HIS CONFIDENCE TILL HE WAS UNDEFEATED HE WAS NT THE SAME
COTTO HAD LOST A BRUTAL FIGHT TO MARGARITO N JUST BEAT CLOTTEY BY SPLIT DECI
N CLOTTEY WAS AN AVERAGE FIGHTER WILL ONLY SKILLS TO HEAD AND NO WORLD BEATER
ALL THESE ARE THE REASONS PACQUIAO IS OVERATED N MAYWEATHER IS BETTER
at Adam, No man. Just one of the bloggers.
R u chris williams in disguise lol
Here a question to Mr. Garduno and Mayweather fans: Since you guys disrespect and mock Pacquiao and his boxing skills, bet your house, salary and everything you guys own for Mayweather (if Pacquiao-Mayweather fight push through this year). Make the Las Vegas gambling think tanks work a little harder, how about 1-100 odds where Pacquiao is the underdog?
Are you kidding me? Pacquiao is one of the greatest of all time. What more does he need to do to impress the haters? Mayweather is amazing and one of my favorite fighters, but he’s always been more worried about keeping his record than taking the most difficult fights. I don’t think anybody would argue against that, at least in some capacity. Mayweather has been dancing around Pacquiao for a while now, and when it actually came time to get in the ring, he balked. Just the fact that he started trying to basically convince people that Pacquiao is on some type of PEDs when he’s never even been accused of by anyone that I can remember seeing, tells you that he sees something in Pacquiao that scares him into thinking that it can’t be real for him to be that good, he must be cheating. The fact that Mayweather tried to make it look to the world like Pacquiao didn’t want the fight was so lame and actually kind of sad. Pacquiao will take him out if they ever happen to fight, and I think Mayweather sees it as a real possibility as well so he’s gonna keep trying to put it off. He’s probably refreshing his list of excuses right now…
when manny and floyd indeed fight!the power shots and accuracy of pacquiao will be the decisive factor!floyd will counter connecting few but pacquiao punches will win him a split decison!if pacquiao have perfect fight he will win it by unanimous decision!mark my word!
The difference between the Great George Foreman and Pac is George eventually learned to box. Pac has never learned to box, he swings and swings with no focal point. Mike Tyson never learned to box, and the list goes on. the one thing all of the sluggers have in common is that they were taken down by who? Boxers. Floyd and Shane are boxers. Paul Williams can throw punches all night long too like Pac, but what do they both have in common? They get hit easily. Floyd is just like the Great Ali, they both pride themselves on destroying the other man and still looking pretty after the fight because they did not allow themselves to get hit. Not conceited, just self assured and confident. Offense sells tickets, defense wins games.
Pacquiao was the only one who signed the contract against Mayweather.. so sad… people got blinded by the mouth of lies..
Actions speak louder then words..
If that was the case, Mayweather would have signed the contract long ago.
This whole megafight crap has killed boxin!! Let’s say the fight happens n then wat!!! Both fighters retire rich!! N then wat!! There plenty of other great stuff goin on the megafight was only goin to revive boxin for the media
@You Know I’m Right-
Pacquiao may not be the best boxer but he certainly is very effective. In the ring what matters is winning, and Pacquiao overwhelms his opponents in the same way MIke Tyson did. If he continues his way, he will be blowing everybody away! Mayweather is predominantly stellar in defense, not in attacking. Thus, he too may not be the best boxer!
Does Pacquiao have the expertise?! Well…there’s only one way to find out – put him in the ring with either Mayflower or Mosley.
Throwing 1,200 punches is “no big deal”?! The fact that Manny could through 1,200 punches and not get wobbly legs after 12 rounds says something about him. Here’s a guy who can fight 25 straight rounds without tiring. If Clottey’s master plan was to tire PacMan out by doing his peek-a-boo and occasional rope-a-dope, well, it didn’t work.
Obviously, Pacquiao is not vulnerable to the rope-a-dope technique, unlike George Foreman in his “Rumble in the Jungle” with Ali. Foreman succeeded in punching himself out of the fight by the 8th Round. But not Pacquiao. So, if Mayflower thinks he can wear out the PacMan with his dance routine, well…it won’t work.
Woddah, couddah, shoulddah…..All of you. Pacman beat Clottey and what more do you want to say. …That Clottey actually beat Pacman in their figh? Perhaps Floyd would say Clottey actually beat Pacquiao, like the last time he said it against Marquez.
Pacquiao <== AK-47 w/ 1200 rounds
Floyd <== M16 w/ 200 rounds
Fire away guys…may your barrels stay cool for 12 rounds.
And to David that is David Lahr!
What is Mayweather’s great plan run duck hide, run duck hide, run duck hide! That is a great strategy! R u a trainer? So, what other plan would you have Pacquaio do? His strengths are his speed, endurance, and desire he fit the game plan to what Clottey gave him. How can Manny employ the Run Duck Hide tactic of MayWeather when Clottey didn’t throw a punch. You guys will pick apart every aspect of Manny’s fights, why can’t you admit and respect what he’s accomplished!
You say “It was impressive that Pacquiao could average 100 punches thrown per found for 12 rounds, but that’s not really a big deal. A lot of fighters can do this. He’s not the first or the last fighters that will throw that many punches.” Really? A lot of fighters can do this? How do you know? Throwing 1200 punches for 12 rounds with the same intensity and crispness is unprecedented. Floyd never faced a fighter as explosive as Pacquiao. What’s so scarey for him is that since he is not as strong as Cotto and Clottey and doesn’t punch as hard as Cotto or Clottey but throws only stinging pot shots from his peekaboo stance, how will he keep Pacquiao at bay? Pacquiao will be all over him, the same way he was with Cotto, Clottey, Hatton and Dela Hoya. He fought the latter two and won but was in steep battle both times. In fact, Hatton was very competitive until round 10(?) when he got hit by that lucky pot shot. Dela Hoya lost by controversial split decision. Pacquiao KOd Hatton with a blink of he eye, and he made Dela Hoya look like an amateur in the ring making him retire sitting on his stool. He gave Cotto, whom Mayweather avoided, the worst beating of his career. SO when you say “what I saw of Manny Pacquiao against Joshua Clottey didn’t give me a feeling that Pacquiao could beat or even compete with the likes of Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather Jr,” you make readers wonder about you.
@ Hey Tell lit like it is
Fraudweather is such a great guy to date 600,000 to JMM because he couldn’t even make frickin weight. He didn’t even have the respect to come in at the designated weight and to boot he couldn’t even knock out a guy who was so much smaller than he was. Imagine how badly he gets beat when he enters the ring with Manny!
To all Pacquiao Fans,
Pls. don’t feel bad about Floyd’s ego boosting articles.
Floyd needs it to build up his confidence.
If you want Floyd to fight Pacquiao, you have to give in to
his halucinations…
If you scare Floyd, he might also back away from Mosley..
Don’t say I didn’t warn you…If you love boxing just play
along…everything will fall into place as planned.
Thank you.
Well said Esteban; as I watched the fight with my friends it seemed Pacquiao was just just slugging wildly. We saw no strategy or tactics; just 12 rounds of flailing at a guy that wouldn’t open up. 1200+ punches, landing 20% and the PacFans swear it was a display of offensive genious.
As much as PacFans hate it, Mayweather was right. Pacquiao showed himself to be a one-dimensional fighter, punches in bunches with speed and angles. No defense, no strategy/tactics and absolutely no ability to change/adapt to what’s in front of him. I can’t wait to see him in with a true boxer.
They all had to fight him at a catchweight. Forget a catchweight, fight at the championship and belt limit!
He got Cotto to drain to 145…stupid Cotto!!!
There is always a Freddie Roach concocted stipulation in fighting Pacquiao. 10 stipulations from Roach/Pacquiao. Mayweather asks for a blood test and it killed the fight. These people are less than honorable. Its a slimy sport and these are definitely slimy people.
@ u know am right
Isn’t that was pac been doin goin up in weight n he is also battle weary are u forgettin he has 50 fights!!! Lol pac is a victim of his own success once pac loses every will say he was overrated lol the guy is a future hall of famer if u can’t respect they u just have no love for the sport
@Unbiased news, noone has inside knowlege; however we all know the fighter we wish to win. One can base that on history, skills, knowlege etc…Layoff, retirement or what, I sincerly believe both Mayweather and Mosely can defeat Pacquiao in spite of these things.
What happened to the Clottey surprise by Pacquiao? Remember all of the talk about this being such a big secret? He couldn’t do anything against a punching bag!!!
In order to fight Pacquiao you must be slow, forward plodding, agree to a catchweight, a battle weary, punch drunk has been.
Pacquiao, step up, take the test, and take the ass whoopin youre due!
IT IS A GUARANTEE THAT COMPREHENSIVE BLOOD TESTING WILL BE MANDATORY IN EVERY FIGHT BY SEPTEMBER 2010.
In cAse ya’ll 4got… Floyd is product of bob arum 2…I’m just sayinggggg
There will be no upsets at all. Mayweather will EASILY beat Mosley and he will EASLIY beat Pacquiao. This is NO upset, everybody knows this with the exception of the Pinoys. Even Vegas says it will be easy.
I have absolutely NO love for Pacquiao, Roach or Arum because this is a a media production with no substance. Mayweather will expose this very soon!
@You Know I’m Right
You really can´t be taken seriously when you aren´t willing to give credit where credit is due. Winning 7 championships in 7 divisions is an accomplishment that no other BOXER in history has done. There has never been 1 shred of evidence that Manny has every done anything illegal, he takes drug tests like everyone else after every fight, you have some evidence we don´t know about?
So slow he stopped ODLH on his stool and Floyd barely won a split decision, so slow he threw 1200 punches in his last fight, so slow he annihilated Hatton in 2 rounds when it took Floyd almost the whole fight.
Bring some facts to the table bro, bring some real discussion, not just screaming out baseless accusations like some 4th grader.
A boxer is the compilation of a career of fights, not 1 fight. Based on your ¨he will be exposed like the fraud he is¨argument Mike Tyson was also a chump because he lost to Buster Douglas. Pac is on an amazing run and you, floyd and many boxers are scared, scared of how good this guy is and it worries you, to the point you make baseless accusations that he´s on drugs.
@Troy…ABSOLUTELY!!! Slow, forward plodding, dehydrated, catch weight taking weakened fighters. ABSOLUTELY AVERAGE!!!
A Media hyped up Joke that will soon be exposed for the JOKE he is!!!
A product of Bob Arum!!!
Mayweather is not going to knockout Mosley and thats a fact!!
Did he knockout De la Hoya? He barely beat De La Hoya with a split decision, when he told the world,”I will destroy Oscar De la Hoya” Did he really?? not even close…
I will say it again…
Its going to be an upset come May 1st.
Its going to be Pacquaio vs Mosley in November @ Dallas Stadium once again.
Vegas knows Mayweather will not fight Pacquiao due the lack of random testing.. Judges will give the the very close fight to Mosley… So the Money Wheel keeps turning for the next big bet that feeds the blood and soul of Las Vegas…
Crazy what a difference one fight makes. Before the Clottey fight these boards were skewing about 75% towards Pacman and about 25% towards Mayweather. Now it seems just the opposite, and imo, for good reason.
Arum and Roach have done a masterful job of handling Pacman’s career in recent years by pitting him against big names and big draws (clottey excluded) but who were either shot, drained, recently battered, or coming down to a catch weight.
Both Mosley and Mayweather would give Manny problems. I give Manny the slight advantage over Mosley and I give Manny no chance against Mayweather.
And Manny is running out of opponents. Marquez turned him down last year because Manny wouldnt give blood. So who is left? A mexican who doesn’t even have his license because he cheated?
In the meantime, Mayweather is taking on the #3 P4P fighter in the world, which could challenge the all-time PPV record, and ringing in a new era of drug testing.
Love him or hate him, but Mayweather is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.
How could a virtual punching bag, beat up a guy that threw supposedly 1200 punches during the fight? Clottey didn’t even fight back and Pacquiao had an eye that looked as though it would fall out of its socket.
Newsflash…Mayweather punches back quickly, rapidly, with lightening reflexes. Poor Pacquiao stands absolutely no chace versus Mayweather OR Mosely!!!
And YES…YOU KNOW I’M RIGHT!
@You Know I’m Right
This is your definition of an average figher:
- 51 Wins, 3 Losses, 2 Draws, 38 Knockouts
- THE FIRST BOXER IN HISTORY to win seven world titles in seven different weight divisions.
Maybe if you pulled your head out from Mayweathers @ss you would see that Manny has his place in boxing history, whether you like it or not these are the facts.
Take a look at the Mayweather vs Luis Castillo 1 fight and you will see how uncomfortable mayweather is when a fighter constantly comes at him and Castillo is half of what Pacquiao will bring.
Floyd and Mosley combine their skills,I think still behind of Pacman skills…Pacman advantages, he can take a power shot and he can move by throwing a lot of punches in different angles..
@You Know I’m Right
He is in the sport of boxing hence he is a boxer you moron, if you are refering to his fighting style that´s a whole other story.
Its obvious you are completely biased but anyways did you see Cotto´s face after he fough Clottey, ten times worse than Pac and he also won. As I asked before, what´s your point? He won every round and thoroughly dominated Clottey and you are trying to make a point that because he got hit, what, he´s no good?
Try to bring some more thought and unbias in to your arguments and less nonsense.
USDA testing at Las Vegas, Nevada for FMJ-Mosley fight? It will be short-lived because we know Floyd will not fight outside of Nevada who do not test or ban the use of the X-factor at fight day, and Pacman just stated he wants his next fight at the Dallas Cowboy Stadium again. So I don’t see the Pac-FMJ fight happening in 2010. Top Rank Bob Arum & Texas billionaire Jerry Jones just had a successful & profitable venture. They will surely capitalize on it with another & another fights. Beside the testing stalemate now we have the Jerry Jones vs. MGM- Golden Boy Promotion business factor. Go figure.
hey YOU KNOW IM RYT…YOU are always wrong!!! lol.
@Labuyo
asians can speak and understands english even a little… what about you? can you speak or understand their language?
and don’t say “dumb “if you don’t know what’s the meaning of it.
With the world of sports moving to more comprehensive blood testing, this will be a mandate by the time Mayweather and Pacquiao meet. Just curious…what will Pacquiao say then? Will he then refuse to fight? Or only take fights in the Philipines where they don’t care what you take, shoot, or injest?
almost every boxer manny faced in the ring underestimated him only to find out too late how magnificent pacman really is. manny’s style looks awkward that’s why they think he’s not that good. they always pay, and pay bad, in the end.
@Nuts, once Mayweather destroys Pacquiao and truly exposes him as a very average fighter, his name will be dropped and forgotten and never again mentioned with the truly great fighters. He will be always questioned as a PED user and Media Hype and Arum will be given credit for his successful hype promotion and marketing.
Manny is so scared of Floyd he is already imitating him during training lol!!! Floyd doesnt watch tape of other fighters, whats the point? Do we watch tape of guys we fight on the street, NO we adapt to how they attack us. Floyd adapts all the time!
well I see many kind of boxers in my life and let me tell you this pac is pure speed that’s all and to be a boxer need’s more than that.and remember quantity is not a sigh of quality,maybe clotty didn’t throuhg to many he just did quality
All in all…Mayweather makes great opponents look very very average. Based on skills and ring intelligence, I anticipate Pacquiao suffering something much worse than a loss to Mayweather. That is the horrific embarrassment he will get in the ring with Mayweather. Then, and only then Pacquiao will get truly EXPOSED as the Media hype composed by the puppet master,,,Bob The Anus Arum.
Pacquiao is skilled against 1 type of fighter. The slow, flat footed, forward plodding, non defensive fighters.
Freddie Roach is taking credit for a fighter that slugs it out with these types of fighters and has never learned the art of boxing. Pinoys, I know this is all you have, but Pacquiao is all hype, all joke.
People…what sport can you win the big one without a defense??? Not a Superbowl, Not hockey, Not a World Series, Not Tennis…
And ABSOLUTELY NOT BOXING!!!
SURELY MANNY WILL AGREE TO BLOOD TESTING IF MONEY WILL AGREE TO FIGHT NIGHT WEIGH-IN LET’S SEE WHO BALKS
The fighter with the best chance at beating pac is not ‘manufacturable’, that is trainable, but must be grace with both inborn potential and fortuitous development.
One has to cull the past greats to find those graced with the natural and developed skills to challenge the pacman…Lotierzo would contend that perhaps Thomas Hearn was best suited to defeat the current Pacman…though Hearn loss to Hagler, stylistically, the former has a better chance than the latter at beating Pacman.
Looking to the current wasteland of talent, there is no hearn/hagler type around unless event unfolds and a credible challenger with the same amazing streak as pacman had the past two years emerge.
If Floyd fight clottey ,I think the fights ended to Draw…bec. everytime Floyd throw a Punches clottey use his pick a Boo and Clamshell defense…If Clottey throw a Punches Floyd use his Shoulder roll and Hit and run Defense…Very Boring Fights!!!
@boxing fans with chips on their shoulders:
As regards to where pacman stands in the pantheon on boxing and who currently on the horizon can beat him, please read the serious writings of serious analyst like Frank Lotierzo’s series of articles in the SweetScience on this very subject.
There is no credible fighters in the relevant division currently that has a better than avg chance at beating the pacman.
Plain and simple NO. The only way he knows how to fight is buy throwing a lot of punches, he would know what to do when someone eventuall use their foot movement the entire fight. And this whole thing about he is just as fast as Floyd is nonsense. Half the time Floyd doesnt use all of his god given ability, he uses his smarts in the ring. Floyd is so smart in the ring he doesnt have to over exert himself. Pacquiao appears faster than mayweather because he does a lot more combination punching. The last time floyd really used his combos was against Gatti and look what happened he made him (a true warrior) quit cuz his eye was closed shut.
pac won the fight, right. he can’t with win with you, if he didn’t throw all those punches you would be writing “why didn’t he he throw more punches the guy was just standing there”. Look at the punch stats pac thru more body shots than head shots. By throwing all those punches pac nullified any offense by clottey that was the strategy and it worked. I don’t care if he only landed 25% of his punches he dominated the fight with speed, footwork and punch volume. When you say well clottey landed the more effective punches, who cares, he never hurt pac and he lost bottom line.
Did Jerry Jones really buy 30k+ tickets for the pacquiao fight
First thing: Manny Paquiao is an exciting and HOF worthy fighter who has electrified the sport over the last few years and is very deserving of SOME OF THE PRAISE he receives. But Floyd Mayweather Jr. is vastly superior boxer and is a more-rounded fighter, imo, and will either dominate and embarrass Manny on the scorecards or eventually catch him like he did with Hatton was who another aggressive and active puncher.
Floyd has the size, strength, and defensive advantage, and comparable speed and stamina and they both have good chins. Anyone who questions Floyds chin needs to go to youtube and watch the “Mayweather/Chavez War.” By the time Floyd fights and imo, beats Mosley, he will have fought the biggest names and greatest challengers of this past decade on the biggest stages, so Manny will not be able to intimidate Floyd like he seems to have with his most recent opponents. Other than the De La Hoya fight, Floyd has always fought his best against the biggest named opponents and there is no way Floyds ego will allow him to lose to Manny.
Arum, Manny, and to a lesser extent, Roach, all got exposed badly during and following the last Mayweather negotiations. Arum and Roach knew they werent ready to fight Floyd and end this hoax of fighting over the hill stiffs who just stand there and don’t punch back while piling up the millions along the way. I don’t know if Manny is on anything, but his body seemed to look a bit different against Clottey, imo, so perhaps he is transitioning to prepare for future testing…but by not knocking out a guy who didn’t fight back took away some of his intimidation factor. Floyd has better defense than Clottey, but is a much greater counter puncher so I just don’t see how Manny can beat him.
Floyd in a late stoppage or by UD.
That’s what’s so good about Boxing. 99% of fighters let Boxing retire them seldom is it the other way around. Anyone can be beat. It just depends on the styles. For all these people speaking on IQ. You need to use good sentence structure before you start talking about who is dumb and who isn’t.. The white man might have started the promoting of Boxing but the Black and Brown man have made it as popular as it is today. Oscar and Mayweather have promotional companies. Manny should too. He needs to step his business skills up.
i totally agree with you tony..
I think the reason why pacman is sometimes open guard is because he is already confident that he controls the ring and so, he will just keeps on landing large volume of clean punches. and another, He knows the best time to switch into defensive mode and He knows also when it is time to be more offensive. Pacman will not be careless in front of mayweather. He wont let that man play long in His own rhythm. that MW cant stick to his strategy until late rounds. no matter how hard the shell it can still be destroyed. in that upcoming fight is he tough enough to receive big punches??? what if he got hit? he could dodge the punches but not ALL.
PACMAN- speed, power, aggresiveness, stamina, defense, various styles and discipline.
Mayweather- speed, only one style, defense, trash mouth.
This is no surprise to anyone who knows boxing. 1200 punches thrown but ineffective is a complete waste. Clottey threw far far far less punches, but when he did Clottey was very very effective. Clottey only showed what we all knew, Pac does not know how to effectively break an opponent down, he struggles bad against defensive fighters. George Foreman early in his career relied on swinging powerful hay-makers but not boxing, that worked somewhat for George because he was fighting at a heavier weight class against slower men who didn’t punch as much in return. But Pac trying the same thing, difference is, George figured out eventually how to box and he was more effective, but George didn’t figure it out in the last fights of his career, he did it early when his mind still was capable of being molded into being a boxer and not just a slugger. Pac is down to his last 2 maybe 3 fights left, he is not about to retrain his mind to become a boxer. All that being said to simply say, Floyd will beat Pac pretty much the same way he did Marquez, the man who took Pac to hell and back. Good article.
@You Know I’m Right
You put Judah on a list with Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson and expect people to take you seriously? It´s probably a smart idea that you never,ever post on this site or any other boxing site again in your life, ever
The author is so wound up and blinded by his hate of Pacquiao he can’t see and appreciate talent (not talking about the singing, of course). Esteban = Dave ?
We will never know until they step in the ring and fight each other. But conventional wisdom says Pacquiao will win against the two based on past performances. Pacquiao is coming off a beating of tough Clottey and had never lost a fight since 2005, while Floyd had just one fight after almost two years layoff which makes him kind of rusty, and Mosley while coming off a win against Margo hasnt fought since Jan.2009 So I wiil put my money on the Pacman.
I kinda agree that PAC is not a BOXER.. He is a FIGHTER in general.. Pac’s have more battle againts greats fighter than Floyd n mosley combined…
@ Lou – Ive been boxing since I was nine years old.Won the golden golves in Mexico city in 2001 and regionals in Arizona. 33-2 as an ametur.. Shoot me an email and Ill let you know how to look me up.Are you a fighter ? Probably not . .
@You Know I’m Right
Pac won pretty much every single round in this fight, won of the most lopsided unanimous fights I´ve seen in a long time, complete and utter domination and you are still looking for negative points. Is Clottey bigger and stronger and hit harder yes but he got ABSOLUTELY DOMINATED for 12 rounds, it´s a boxing match, guys get hit, they get bruises and bloody faces.
What is your point exactly, that Pac has awful defense, wow, what a genius you are, nobody ever said Pac is great defensive boxer but he wins and if that´s your only argument for knocking Pac it´s pretty pathetic, learn to give credit where credit is due.
The point of boxing is to win by KO, TKO or decision and Pac did his job.
Labuyo, Google Iq’sby race
1.Asian’s
2Whites
3Hispanics
and last Blacks who have the lowest Iq
85 in US and 70 in Africa and the difference is the mixure of White Blood here in the US. Iread the article google it.
Floyd is the greatest! Even greater than Ali, Armstrong or Robinson!
whats wrong wit havin the biggest fight knowing tha both fighters are clean?. what r u guys retarded?
Enough is enough. Why are we analyzing the Pacquiao versus a wall fight? If the other guy guy doesn´t fight back and he has a pretty damn good shell defense there isn´t much Pac or Mayweather or anyone else can do about it. If we go and watch Pac hit a bunching bag are we going to criticise that is was a poor performance? How many articles do we have to see about how bad he fight and how dumb he fought and how terrible Pac looked? If the other guy doesn´t come to fight there ain´t much that anyone can do, why beat a dead horse. How many different ways can you punch a wall? Can you impress punching a wall, look good punching a wall, impress anyone by punching a wall?
Kaleb. Clottey fight would be much more difficult for Manny than Floyd. Manny had to be careful because of Clottey size and strengh advantage. Mayweather has no strengh advantage over Manny. Since you have never boxed you won’t understand. Look how clottey dismantale Judah and Floyd had a difficult time with Judah. If Judah wasn’t king of the 4 rounders and could fight 12 rounds he would have beat Mayweather even though I think Richard Steele didn’t do his job in Disqualifing Mayweather for Uncle Roger entering the ring.
I thought the fight identidied mannys area of opportunity for improvement againts tought defensive fighters.In no way was it a beat down of Clottey,Manny simply won and deserved the win by being the aggressor and throwing more punches(making the fight.)Nothing taken away from manny,He’s one of the best ever,He simply couldnt connect.Yes-He threw over a hundred punches a round but if you look at the connecting percentage,It was the same as clottyes.It seemed like he took more punishment then what he gave,You could see the damage on his face.If your a a great boxer,you adjust and manage or figure out a way to break the other opponents offense or defense which manny failed to do with clottey.So with manny having such a hard time against clotteys defenese who stood in fornt of him the whole fight,I think it shows that he will have a harder time against mayweather who has the best defense,precision and counter-punching skills in the sport right now. Sure money lacks the power but makes up for it in precision,counter-punching and defensice skills.I see the fight going for mayweather by decision. To those of you that say that all mayweather will do is “Run”,his simply using his foot work and its his opponents job to “Cut” off the ring and stop him. If he can do that – then he is lacking in skills.
Yes! Manny lacks the expertise to beat Mayweather & Mosley. Mayweather will beat Pacquiao without sweat. I totally agree when you said “The fighters are ones that are experts at ring strategy and who know how to capitalize on their opponents mistakes”. And Mayweather’s strategy was “ask for an olympic style blood testing! What a fighter he is, WHAT A FIGHTER!!!
Clottey only landed 27% of his punches. Pacquiao dodged the large majority of Clottey’s shots. However, Pacquiao is primarily an offensive fighter and he is willing to take a few counterpunches to get in his explosive combinations.
Clottey is big and strong. However, if Clottey would have tried to actually win the fight like Cotto did, his face would have been destroyed as well.
Your reasoning is BS. It’s ok if you don’t like Pacquaio, but it’s idiotic to say that he shouldn’t be considered a boxer.
@zelig, anytime you get “Beat Up” by a guy that is covered up and refuses to fight back, ytou cannot reward him by saying he has good ring generalship. He has Awful defense. Awful!!! No better word for it…
U can say whAtever u guys wanted 2 say rite now… But when tha day that pacs face iether Shane or mosley…, ya’ll better put yo money wer yo mouth is…
120-108, 119-109, 119-109 and the idiota del pueblo says he doesn’t see the strategy.
@YouKnowYou’reWrong: Pac is a boxer because his profession/sports is boxing. Like when you’re profession is cooking — you are a ‘cooker’. ROFL!
Not another anti-Pacquiao article from the idiot Esteban who thought Clottey was going to win, but instead lost the most lopsided fight in his career. Esteban is a hack and should not be listened to.
Pacquiao threw more body punches than ever and a couple staggered him. Clottey remained in his shell almost the entire fight. It’s obvious with that technique he was going to block a lot of shots.
Mosley and Mayweather are the best welterweights who have a chance of beating Pacquiao. However, Pacquiao definitely has great ring generalship. Rewatch the Pacquiao vs Clottey fight and listen to Emanuel Steward and Larry Merchant commend Pacquiao’s ring generalship – how he would continue to circle around Clottey to hit body shots. This article is ridiculous. And the idiot who refuses to call Pacquaio a boxer is even more ridiculous.
@Fighter,
Pac’s possible next opponents are Valero, Margarito, and some B-class fighter? Try JMM. Would you call him a B-class fighter?
If Pac fights JMM a 3rd time, I still see a close/ rough fight for Pac. Don’t let Pac’s “improvement” or the Mayweather-JMM fight fool you.
@ u know am right,
boxing = is a martial art where two participants generally of the same weight fight each other with their fists. LOL
I am amazed at the Pinoys that continue to call Pacquiao a “Boxer”. This fact alone should be reason “Never” to engage conversation on boxing with the amateurs on here. Pacquiao is all they now about the fight game which started for them abot 12 months ago.
Pinoys…listen up. Pacquuiao is Not a boxer. Let me list some boxers for you to help you in your education.
1) Ali
2) Ray Leonard
3) Wilfred Benitez
4) Ray Robinson
5) Mayweather
6) Judah
7) Larry Holmes
Those are boxers. Does Pacquiao look like any of thes guys? NEVER…EVER, use BOXER and Pacquiao in the same sentence!
I get it why most people write off Pac against ring tacticians like Mayweather and Mosley because so far Manny has faced only come-forward fighters, right? Wrong! If I recall the articles I read, there were a good number of ring tacticians before they fought Manny. Manny were not supposed to beat them because they had ‘better’ ring generalship and possessed the brain to adjust their ways in the middle of the fight. Ledwaba was one, and so were Morales, Barrera, Marquez and Cotto among them. The trouble has always been they threw their ‘tactics’ out of the arena once they get peppered with rapid and powerful punches coming from all over the place.
I am not saying PBF and/or Mosley will fall prey to Manny’s fighting style in the same manner, but to say Pac lacks tactics or strategy so he can’t beat any or both of the two, is plain idiocy. Isn’t throwing a barrage of punches from all possible angles a tactic too? Call it what you may — style, strategy or tactic, but if that’s what it takes.
seriously guys you really think pacquiao doesnt have what it takes to compete with floyd mayweather or mosley. in the clottey fight he proved that he could beat a more heavier, and stronger oppenent than mayweather or moseley. Pacquiao didnt land many shots because clottey kept on using the double guard technique because he felt manny’s power and became aware that if he lets go of his hand to punch manny, manny would use his speed plus power to knock him out.
Pacman Don’t Have A Chances With MayWeather At All Now Dont Get Me Wrong Pacman Can Fight But He Is Not On MayWeather Level At All There Is One Thing That MayWeather Does Best And That Is Win And Ricky H.,Juda,MayWeather Used His Head In Figtes Like He Does In Every Fight He Has I mean A lot of you dont like Mayweather because he dont fight like you want him to Mayweather fights to win hes in this business to win thats what boxing is all about is making money for your family now but yourself i the that ring now would like to get hell beat out of you just by giving fans what they want to see or would you go in that ring and be smart and take care of business and bring that money home to your family, Boxing is a business people if you like it or not you get into boxing to make money and to make that BIG MONEY you gotta win and thats all Mayweather is doing Now IF YOU ARE AMERICAN YOU SHOULD BE STANDING BEHIND YOUR AMERICAN FIGHTERS NO MATTER WHAT THATS WHAT PACMAN COUNTRY IS DOING FOR HIM STANDING BEHIND HIM
I agree with Tony a 100%. That’s precisely my thought.
pac may come forward like tyson,and maywether may hit goin back like tucker,but the diff is may will also come inside often.ANd whan he does, he unleashes combinations that will
toast the opponents body and head.then if u retaliate,he rolls under an steps back then comes back with a drop head lead right. then stat again.u try and hit him he slips 1 blocks 2 then jabs,circles comes back faints jabs looks for a left hook.may only stays on the rope if he is concerned that u are too big 4 him. like Osca del’a,but pac is not too big,although just as explosively powerful as the bog boys. may could stop him.yabe k.o. if may hurts him then starts combinating on him,the ref will stop it.victory for may.
Paciao still goes down as one of the greatest fighters ever.Even if he losses.what he has done,we will search long and hard in al the gyms of the world b4 we can find.
I also am a pro boxer and former bare knuckle fighter,so this is my take on the probabilities of a future encounter.
This article is on point. Case in point…when Paul Williams fought Winky Wright..he threw like a huundred punches a round but the difference between him and Manny is that he placed his shots in different spots to make Winky open up that shell guard a little so he could do some damage. He did not hit all arms and gloves. He figured out a way to land effectively and it worked out good for him. The hook to the body then uppercut was very effective against this style of defense. And of course Paul’s connect rate was above a 20%.
True Boxing Fans know and understand HOW “Styles Make Fights”. With Pacquiao we have a Slugger/Puncher that fights 1 way and 1 way ONLY! Forward, throwing, swinging, flailing, punching at anything he can reach. Floyd is a Boxer/Counterpuncher that responds however quickly to whatever his opponent does.
When Pacquiao throws his arsenal out there and finds that 90% of what he throws misses, while he is constantly taking jabs, uppercuts, and hooks from Floyd with precision and pinpoint accuracy, he will get frustrated and try even harder. That plays directly in to Floyds hands. Whenever Pacquiao throws, he is WIDE WIDE OPEN!!! Sorry bud, you can’t do that with Floyd!
Someone tell me please…How did Pacquiao get “Beat UP” by Clottey that refused to fight back? How did that happen? I heard Pacquiao say that he let Clottey hit him…I just about fell out of my chair when I heard that.
Floyd is the MOST accurate counterpuncher ever. Pacquiao will be like a bobble head doll all night long.
Everyone will be surprised how beaten and bloodied Pacquiao will be. Pacquiao will become more defensive for the first time ever!!!
Floyd will make a presntation to Pacquiao during the fight. He will take his ass and hand it back to him.
Vegas gives Pacquiao a 39% chance of defeating Floyd. I agree with those numbers!
I liken this Clottey thing to a conspiracy, that everybody seems to avoid discussing. I really admire Teddy Atlas, but I was listening to him on FNF in ESPN last night (great job Sechew Powell), and his description of the fighters and their past was very timid compared to his normal, and respected, frank dimenor. I knew, Manny knew, Freddy knew, and everybody knew, that Clottey’s M.O. is to keep a tight, high guard, and play the ropes. This is nothing new. In fact, Clottey even said, that his strategy, going in was to block 30 of Manny’s shots, and land 4 of his own. Some of us thought he was kidding, but hey…he said it. They knew what they were doing when they chose Clottey to fight. Which brings me to my next point; Joe T. at ESPN was going on and on about how Manny has beaten ODLH, Hatton, Cotto, and Clottey…as if these are not all cherry picked fighters for various reasons. I do have to say, that Teddy’s analasys of Manny’s exposed weakness ( uppercuts landed by Clottey ) was very accurate, if you go by the fight. He hit Manny with some, but too few, clean shots that rocked his head. He went on to say that he thinks if Clottey can do this, that Floyd will probably have a good night. Not to be biased, but Teddy Atlas does have a modicum of knowledge and experience in this thing.
I also noticed on the show, that Manny’s next possible opponents could very well not be Mosley or Mayweather, but Valero, Margarito, and some other B fighter, I can’t think of it right now. AMAZING! Everybody wants to hoist Manny upon thier shoulder for fighting the same old Fighters, who either stand right in front of you, or who are coming off a devastating loss, or some other handicap. Why not fight #7 ranked Colazzo, or even higher up the ladder, Berto, if he can’t get the 2 top fighters? The truth is, they’re sweating this guy so much, that if he fought Juan Diaz or the likes, and Mosley or Mayweather win, they’ll still bless him with the p4p king, or fighter of the millenium, or some other bogus crap! I’m sick of the politics in this sport.
I did’nt read the whole thing yet, but I can guess the Pacquiao lovers will harshly criticize this article, with little fact, or technical boxing analysis….stay tuned, I’ll finish and be right back.
Clottey doesn’t want to bow…. hell just throw punches to get your points. Wala… unanimous decision.
@ Reidj
LOL
Lou DiBella speaking after the Clottey bout ~ “Manni has slowed down a little bit”
And DiBella knows boxing.
Floyd, as per usual, will have the last word.
All Freddy Roach has to do is let Manny chase a chicken around a cage like the old man did with Rocky Balboa who I might add was one of the greatest boxers of all time. Once Manny masters this stategy he will KO Chicken Floyd. Shane won’t respect Manny ‘s power and will get knocked out by a punch he won’t see coming. After manny wins those to Fights maybe he will be rewarded with a statue like the great Rocky Balboa and yell out Yo Jinkee!!!!!
@ Esteban Garduro
Do you write about anything else than Pacquiao? If Pacquiao is such a bad fighter then why are you so obsessed about him. You need to take a break and write about some other fighters or better yet, not write about boxing.
These guys are all fighting this month.
Wladimir Klitschko, Eddie Chambers, Yuriorkis Gamboa, Erik Morales, Jose Alfaro, Marcos Maidana, Victor Cayo, Arthur Abraham and Andre Dirrell.
Why not write about them without telling us who’s definatly going to win?
You need to save your career as a “boxing writer” more than Pacquiao needs to worry about possible upcoming fights.
no he does not….manny is a complete phoney.. overhyped, over appreciated…hes been spoon fed a bunch of stand still fighters to make him look good by his greedy promoter…do you think bob arum cares about the fans..look at all them mismatches last week !! now on friday n fights , roach said manny might fight marga-cheato in the fall !! omg ..fighter of the decade ?? how about FRAUD of the decade !!
pacquiao is on another level, mosley floy clottey are just on a lower level of pacman. pac employed different strategy on his las four fights, never the same tactic. pac is intelligent in the ring , he knows the clam shell defense of clottey and he kept throwing jabs/punches to his gloves to distract him then hit him in the body. it also prevented and discouraged clottey to throw more often. pac will over power floy with his work rate, just 1 or 2 of his power left to hit floy on the chin and the career of this primadonna is over. lol the same with mosley, mosley was not able to do what pac did to cotto. and no other fighter dominated clottey like pac did. pac is really the best. LMAO
ESTEBAN GARDUNO
YOU ARE A BORING WRITER.
WRITE SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT OTHER BOXER THAN PACMAN…WE KNOW ALLREADY THAT YOU DONT LIKE PACMAN.
DRA ÅT HELVETE MED DIG DIN TÖNT
here goes that testing again…
do you really believe pac is on a-side meth?
simple answer no !!!!!!!!!
Pac must take the test just to make things clear. A dangerous sport like boxing is years behind other other sports in their drug testing. crazzzzy. They are both great fighters so they should both submit to all types of random drug testing. Mayweather should never fight Manny without RANDOM drug testing. Manny has everything to prove.
@ Tony
Excellent analysis, I agree completely on the reasoning behind Pacquiao using so many head shots and they did have an effect on Clottey who’s defence was beginning to scatter in the last two or three rounds or so it looked to me anyway.
Mayweather is going to present Manny with more problems I feel than Clottey becouse he won’t be stationary for long but at the same time I don’t think he will be able to do enough offensively and will find himself against the ropes blocking shots too often to win enough rounds but he will win some rounds I feel with pinpoint counter punching and frustrate Pacquiao and we might see him banging his gloves together in some early rounds and not quite knowing how to figure out Mayweather but as the fight goes on I see Mayweather just doing less and less and ultimately losing on points.
No, pacman doesn’t lack the expertise, he can be a BIG threat to mosley and mayweather. he have the skills to beat them, speed and power.
I am also a boxer and i know that styles make fights. Manny is fast with great footwork, throws a lot of punches and has an in/out style that clottey simply coundn’t handle because of his rigid defense and the fact that he has to set his feet to throw punches thats why clottey never throws a lot of punches in any of his fights…against manny he was only going to get overwhelmed. However if manny fought mayweather i believe he would be thoroughly embarassed because of mayweather’s movement. Manny’s style is highly dependent on his opponent being stationery or coming straight at him, if manny gets a lot of lateral movement he is going to get confused. If you watch the tenth round of the cotto fight you see that when cotto starts to move, manny is unable to zero in on him and actually gets outboxed with cotto winning the round easily even though cotto was heavily battered and bruised. The reason for this is that manny has no really effective jab and cannot close off the ring plus movement prevents from him coming in with multiple combinations. To hit floyd you have to be able to fight on the inside to neutralise his reflexes and posture…manny is not an inside fighter, he will try to nail floyd as always jumping from the outside which i think would be very difficult because of floyd’s excellent defense, reflexes and above all movement. Floyd’s fast hands and counterpunching abilities will do terrible damage because of manny’s poor defense…manny will have difficulty getting at floyd because of the reasons mentioned above and the fight will end up being rather one-sided with manny literally chasing a ghost and getting nailed repeatedly
I loved to read comments by readers sometimes the comments make more sense than the article itself. Tony and radon86 clearly points out the strategy behind the Pacman’s fight execution against Clottey, even Roach was satisfied with his pupil’s performance. Pacquiao’s work rate and volume of punches are the reason why Clottey just covered up almost entirely the whole fight, if Clottey slugged it out he most likely would have been hit a lot with power punches. The way I saw Clottey fight that night, he was simply trying to protect his record of 0 KO, what a looser.
you can not say, that mayweather should beat pacman, just because he earns the decision against marquez. what about pacman beating cotto, who won aver mosley?
i think, pacman has a good chance against mayweather. he is as quick as mayweather, he has more power and trows much more punches. by the way, pacman has better stamina, and would make mayweather fight every minute of every round
Its going to be an upset come May 1st.
Its going to be Pacquaio vs Mosley in November @ Dallas Stadium once again.
Vegas knows Mayweather will not fight Pacquiao due the lack of random testing.. Judges will give the the very close fight to Mosley… So the Money Wheel keeps turning for the next big bet that feeds the blood and soul of Las Vegas…
If you watch Mayweathers fights, none gave him 12 rounds of none stop pressure.
Zab as an example only maybey 3 rounds then tires out.
12 rounds on of none stop would surely give PBF his first knock out.
Old Floyd got to much savvy for Manny he will not let him stand of and box he will wrap him up,Manny don’t like them inside moves.
Don’t forget Shane has a serious KO record might be to strong at welter for Manny.
Can’t wait bring it on boys.
Pac is not a skilled boxer in the same class as Shane or Floyd, he is good against brawlers but against defensive fighters like Floyd he stands no chance. He struggled against JMM and tho he won against Clottey but he exposed himself big time.Pure boxing is about accuracy, defence , timing and offence. Pac is good in one area of offence and Floyd is good in 3 areas, timing,defence and accuracy.
@lito Nucum
cotto didnt beat shane convincingly?? they both landed same ammount of shots but cotto threw more so it looks like the judges favoured the aggressor…
Manny Pacquiao has no plan other than come in strong, surely with his reliance on pharmaceutical liquids. Did you see how less bulky Pacquiao was in the Clottey fight? Amazing.
How could Pacquiao propose that if Mayweather dropped the PED test he (Pacquiao) would drop his lawsuit? God, everything about this guy is screeming PEDs!!! But some biased journalists are refusing to see just because they hate Mayweather.
I hate to admit but I had some of those thoughts as well. But what I clearly think and understand on I saw was Manny probably waiting for Clottey to through punches and fight back. I think and clearly saw that. Manny was paitent and so was Clottey. Manny wanted Clottey to through and fight so Manny could engadge as he always does but Clottey played it smart in his own way but cost him the entire fight. Pacy will take out Mosley like he did Cotto with his speed power foot work and duck punches and making distance and comming in with his solid and beautiful ring generalship. As for Mayweather I’ll leave it to the Master Freddie Roach.
I’ll say it again, Floyd won’t fight the Pacman, period.
esteban garduno, since most boxing experts were awed by pacquiao’s performance against clottey, stop writing to make a public fool of yourself since you have no clue what boxing talent is all about even if it is staring at you in the face.
the point is if he stop punching(pac-man) and wait for the opening maybe he get hit with more solid punch. did you see the even if he thow a lot of puncher there clottey still manage to get a good combination there. so the plan is make clottey busy by sheilding instead of counterpucnhing. coz you know what happen if he will trade with blow with pac-man
Just showing this writer does’nt know his boxing. Shane was beaten by Cotto convincingly. Cotto was beaten by Pacman in the worse manner. So, what is the question? Yes, Floyd is harder to catch, but he opens up when he throw punches, so Pacman will get him there. As acounter puncher, throwing puncher while back peddaling, has no power in it. While Pacman relentless pursuit throwing 100 punches per round with
stinging power, you do the math.
But Mayweather won’t give hiim a chance…
Obviously there was a strategy to the fight if the Pacman won the fight so easily on the scorecards, One could say it was “genius”. Clottley had a plan too, but when your been bombarded with 3 to 4 body shots to your one jab or hook its hard to get going. Sure Mayweather and Mosley offer more in terms adaptation and ability to find the winning solution. But Manny has one overall riding odd in his favour, Heart!!
Let me ask you something. Do you know a boxer called Mike Tyson? I take it that you obviously do. When he was young he came forward and attacked, everyone loved his style. There was no “science” as such, he just moved his head and tried to land big punches. Sometimes, like against Tony Tucker, he could not KO the guy but still won on points because of his work rate and punch output. Pacquiao is no different. You cannot expect him to land at will – he is not superhuman – and you cannot expect a KO everytime. He is a great boxer albeit the best offensive boxer in the world today, so why do you hate on him so much?