Calzaghe thinks Hatton should retire, and also thinks Haye can beat Wladimir
By Scott Gilfoid: In an article at GQ-magazine, former IBF/WBC/WBO super middleweight champion gives his thoughts on the careers of Ricky Hatton and World Boxing Association heavyweight champion David Haye. Speaking about Hatton, who was recently stopped in the 2nd round by Manny Pacquiao last May, Calzaghe says “I think Ricky Hatton should quit. No fighter wants to retire on the back of a bad loss, but Ricky got beat up pretty bad by Mayweather Jr., so I don’t think he should fight again.”
These are two of the best fighters in the sport. It isn’t as if Hatton is getting pummeled by every fighter in the light welterweight division. Hatton can still be successful and make good money by fighting guys like Juan Manuel Marquez, Amir Khan or even Timothy Bradley if he wants. And it wouldn’t matter to me if Hatton was beaten by one or all of them.
As long as he’s putting on a good show and likes competing against the best fighters. He shouldn’t worry about what might happen, because if Hatton was to hang up his gloves at this point, he would never know whether he still had anything left or not. And even if he doesn’t have much left, he can still compete and still entertain his fans. He doesn’t need to quit.
Calzaghe seems to have a lot of positive praise for heavyweight David Haye. “David Haye fought the fight he had to fight with [Nikolay] Valuev. He’s a big lump. To go to Germany and pull that off is a brilliant win for him.” You can look at it like that or you can look at Haye’s win against Valuev in another way. Haye fought as if he was scared, like he was afraid to get hit by Valuev. In the end Haye won the fight by a 12 round majority decision, but in winning the fight Haye didn’t live up to the expectations that many people had for him.
Haye also didn’t fight well enough to make one think that he’ll be able to hold down the WBA title for more than one or two fights, depending on how carefully he’s matched. If Valuev had been facing Wladimir or Vitali Klitschko last November instead of Haye, I find it hard to imagine that they would fight tentatively against the light hitting Valuev.
On the contrary, I think both Klitschko brothers would literally rip Valuev’s head off with power shots and end things very quickly if they were to fight him. It wouldn’t even be a competitive fight. This is important because Haye says he wants to fight one or both of the Klitschko brothers in the near future. Based on how Haye looked against Valuev, I wouldn’t give him any chance at beating either of the Klitschko brothers.
I don’t consider Haye’s win over the 36-year-old Valuev as a “brilliant win.” It looked less impressive to me than the performance by 46-year-old Evander Holyfield had against Valuev a year older in Switzerland. Holyfield lost despite dominating most of the fight against Valuev. Holyfield looked more impressive than Haye did even though Holyfield is of advanced age.
Calzaghe says “I think Haye will knock out John Ruiz when he boxes him and that will set him up for a big fight against one of the Klitschko brothers.” I agree that Haye will probably beat Ruiz, but not by a knockout. I think he’ll win another close questionable decision. It won’t be pretty, and some people might think it’s a home town decision because the fight will be taking place in UK. That’s my prediction. But I totally disagree with Calzaghe thinking that Haye will fight one of the Klitschko brothers next.
I don’t see that happening. I think Haye is going to milk his title and go after an old 45-year-old Bernard Hopkins next rather than risk getting destroyed by the Klitschko brothers. After Hopkins is out of the way, I see Haye either fighting a rematch with Valuev or taking on the winner of the Kali Meehan vs. Ruslan Chagaev bout. The Klitschko brothers will probably be name dropped by Haye every now and then, but I don’t see him fighting either of those guys until maybe 2011, if at all.
Still talking about the Klitschko brothers, Calzaghe says “They’re more mobile, and they can punch, but Haye can punch too. Wladimir Klitschko’s been down a few times, so has Haye. I think it would be a really exciting fight and Haye can win if he catches him on the chin and knocks him out.” Notice how Calzaghe doesn’t mention Vitali Klitschko? I assume he doesn’t think that Haye can beat the 38-year-old Vitali. The fact he didn’t mention Vitali makes me believe that he thinks Haye couldn’t beat him. But as far as Wladimir goes, I think Haye would have about as much of a chance of beating him as Chagaev did recently in his 9th round stoppage loss.
Haye is too short at 6’3”, doesn’t have the arm length or the jab needed to set up his wild haymaker shots. Haye would likely be destroyed if he threw his amateurish looking pot shots against Wladimir, and he doesn’t have the chin needed to wade through the kinds of power shots that Wladimir would be throwing at him. As such, I think Calzaghe is way off with Haye beating Wladimir.
I think Haye can beat some heavyweights in the top 15. If he’s real careful, I think he can squeak by with a controversial decision against Ruiz next month on April 3rd. If Haye does out trying to punch Ruiz out, I see Haye being taken out like he was against 40-year-old Carl Thompson in the past. But besides that, I see most of the top 15 fighters beating Haye in the WBA. I think he could maybe beat guys like Manuel Charr, David Rodriguez, and Rene Dettweiler. But the other heavyweights, I see it as a toss-up as to whether Haye can escape the fight in one piece without being knocked out.
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joe calzaghe stops vernon kay in 4th round for world champion of self satisfied smug. b-hop beat joe , as would froch, get back under your stone joe. ” has been that never was ” .
Slappy must be really worried about his Legacy if Froch can stop Kessler. Remember slappy has said Kessler was his toughest fight and could be regretting such high praise!
Haye will loose to Ruiz, he lacks power, speed, conditioning and a brain.
It’s the same old story, people saying Haye didn’t impress in the fight against Valuev or that he didn’t do well. I encourage anyone to compete in any sport (against a world champion) with a broken hand and win…
David was fantastic against Valuev and he will show the world (again) the real Hayemaker when he fights two time champ Ruiz.
Haye will whip Ruiz inside six rounds or bring him within an inch of his life. The difference in speed will be alarming. Haye will be countering Ruiz with right hands and hooks. It will be an annihilation.
calzaghe beat everyone there was out there at the time,he would of out worked Dawson and Froch and he was simply too fast for both of them.Lets not forget Froch really struggles against quick fighters as proven with Dirrell and Taylor and Dawson struggled against a 40 year old Glen Johnson,so all in all it really doesnt take much to work out the outcomes to those fights so retiring was the only option left.
Chambers, Arreola, Ruiz, Tua, Kevin Johnson, Eddie Chambers, Audley Harrison, Derik Chizora, Sam Aexton, Valuev and Chagaev. I think Haye is a class above all of these guys.
I’m not sure about the Klitshcos. Especially Vitali but they will be great fights and I’mn sure at least one of them is going to happen !
CALZAGHE LEFT AT THE TOP BECAUSE HE KNEW HE WAS PROBABLY NOT WHAT HE ONCE WAS. NOW THAT TAKES SOME DOING, ADMITTING THAT YOU KNOW ITS TIME TO GIVE UP WHAT YOU WERE THE BEST AT. SCOTT YOU ARE NOT EVEN THE BEST AT WHAT YOU DO AND ALWAYS GET IT WRONG, AND CANT ADMIT IT. YOUR PROBLEM IS YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO SHOW PEOPLE THERE DUE RESPECT WHETHER YOU LIKE THEM OR NOT. OR SHOULD I SAY IF THEY ARE NOT AN AMERICAN.
sorry to sound like an annoying chump but calzaghe was the WBA champ as well. sorry.
Oh dear … Scotty Boy talking trash again ! I truly cannot grasp your flawed logic, try as hard as I might ?!
First up, Hatton should retire. He is now wealthy, has a young son and doesn’t need to risk his health any longer ( at least in the ring, although his Gp might want him to address his fish, chips and Guiness addiction sometime soon, tough ? ). Also, he has lost twice very convincingly to the two top fighters in his weight division. I, surprisingly, think he wouldn’t make the same mistakes if he boxed Pacman again ( he dropped his hands, went gung ho and led with his chin – which set him up perfectly for a Pacman fast shot ). Still, Hatton’s lifestuyle and way of living means he can not mantain longeivity in the sport of boxing …
As for Haye, he adopted thepefect game plan to beat Valuev. You again agin show your lack of boxing knowledge with your silly cooments about how Haye fought. he wasn’t afraid, but smart and is the only fighter to have seriously wobbled Valuev … As Haye’s stamina improves along with his confidence to be able to regualrly do 12 full rounds, he will relax into a natural rythum. He has the power to take out anyone in the heavyweight division, both Klits included ( although, I do rate Vitali’s chin highly ). Haye will prove a far better heavy than you think …
Wrong Scott, David Haye is not an American fighter. He will not milk his position with easy fights but will be straight on the Klitchkos case just you wait and see. Calzaghe has a completely different mind set to an American. That is why he thinks retirement is correct. I wish you were Hatton Scott i would love to see you getting beaten up by Khan etc. just for money and no pride.
I don’t think Ricky should return. He reached his ceiling, in the sport. There’s no shame in losing to two of the best. However, if he comes back and loses to fighters of lower rank, then he will appear to be a washed up fighter. But, if he feels there’s more he needs to do to prove to himself…so be it. He should choose his opponents carefully, though.
Haye could hang with Wlad, if he can get inside, but, not Vitali. Wlad is the more skilled boxer of the two, but, Vitali, is the tougher of the two. He would expose Haye.
Haye should be able to handle Ruiz, using his athleticism and boxing skills. I don’t know about a KO, though.
I’m glad Calzaghe retired, when he did. I respect he and Lennox for understanding when it’s time to move on to other things. They both went out, as winners. I wish RJJ would’ve done the same…smh.
Who then should Calzaghe have fought? I don’t understand this “Calzaghe retired 2 fights too early” talk. Are you talking about Dawson? Because there is no-one else. He should not have gone down to the super middleweight division again, he had already cleaned that up. People saying he should of gone in the super six? The super six was designed to find the next Calzaghe, who takes over from the guy.
There was always going to be someone else coming through, someone new to fight, Calzaghe cannot go on forever. And he beat Hopkins whether you like it or not. Hopkins was a spoiler, who clinched constantly in that fight, trying to throw Calzaghe off his game and turn it into an awful spectacle but Joe was too much for him. I mean, you saw how Hopkins completely battered Pavlik in his next fight, so a bit of respect here.
i think he’s right about hatton but wrong about haye calzaghe retired 2 fights too early
if ricky really wants to remove all doubts about how good he is he would get very serious and come back with a vengence.the fighters are there to fight.no more fighting the easier guys tell the superfight comes along.Now is the time he needs to do what he should have done during his reign as ring mag champ.he should go after either bradley,alexander or khan.if he needs a tuneup first to see if he is up for the task then do so.hatton has a chance to show the world and america what makes him a special fighter worthy of the big pay per view fights he was in.he is still young enough to compete and as crazy as this may sounds i thought he looked pretty good against pacquiao.its just that nobody understood including ricky just what kind of monster pacquiao is.i thought that he would have come back to try to erase that already but he hasnt even began training or found a apponent.he mentioned urango but he lost so maybe he goes against young champ alexander.forget old man marquez hatton fought enough fighters almost at the end of there career.i think he needs to fight the young guns or forget it.
Of course he should of retired, it’s so easy to sit there comfy in your chair with a big fat cup of tea (two sugars) and say how he should of carried on. He done what you should do and did not endup on the wrong side of boxing. charicter
Calzaghe knows nothing about boxing he lost some of the fights he won and Vitali and Wladimir will both beat Haye easy people go on about Hayes speed and power so much but means nothing when u have shorter reach and height Wladimir will always be out of the way people dont understand how Klitschko are at counterpunching haye %0 chance and he knows it
Oh so it’s okay for dirrell to run for most of his fight against froch but when Haye does he’s running scared get off your soap box you brit hater
Haye will batter Ruiz, the guy is old, slow and quite frankly isn’t in the same league as Haye and all stupid Scott will say after Haye KO’s him is that he is shot. Whats with all the Haye hating anyway. How can you even mention the Thompson fight, it was so early in his career so forget about that. He has become undisputed cruiserweight champion since then and is now a heavyweight champ so please, think before you ever write an article about Haye again.
i saw the title to this piece and thought this could be interesting and then i saw the writer. from that moment i realised wat cud have been a well balanced article was going to be a one sided bashing on calzaghe and of course david haye. i believe ricky hatton should fight on but i also believe scott gilford wants him to retire and has only sed he shudnt becoz calzaghe sed he should. this guy is a racist read every one of his articles they all bash british and other european fighters he only talks well of the klitchkos wen david hayes envolved. this guy should be banned from this site hes a disgrace to boxing my one shock with this piece is that he didnt mention andre dirrell or carl froch.
Calzaghe is a joke.His win over B-hop was suspect and he beat some guy who used to be Roy jones. He got out when the getting was good.Oh I’m sorry he beat Kessler, who just got destroyed by ward.Give me a break.I dont think he would ever enter the super six because most of them are better than him.
No one in the right state of mind would bet on Haye to beat either Klitchko, Wlad is the more dangerous of the two, hard quick punishing jab and a crunching right hand not to mention a great hook, Haye is too slow and clod like to deal with big quick men. Old man Ruiz is gonna clean up boxing by expelling Haye from the Heavyweight division.
I don’t think Calzaghe retired early myself, you could argue the point sure… maybe he could of fought Dawson, Bute or even Froch but really Calzaghe had proven enough. He was the best super middleweight by a mile and had been for over a decade and beat a wiley Hopkins. Calzaghe was at an age where most onlookers say it’s time to retire and he did. Sure he could of gone on but what’s done is done.
He doesn’t mention Vitali because I think we all know that V.Klitschko is the best heavyweight since Lennox Lewis and would be a real tough test for Haye. If Haye beat him then I would be very surprised though I think Haye is the only heavyweight who could get close. W.Klitschko is an easier option and would be vunerable to Hayes fast, clean and hard shots.