Arum needs Pacquiao-Clottey to bring in big PPV numbers
March 12th, 2010
By Chris Williams: If Top Rank promoter Bob Arum expects to have leverage for a future fight against Floyd Mayweather Jr., then this Saturday’s fight between Manny Pacquiao and Joshua Clottey will have to do really well in terms of Pay-Per-View buys. The reason is because if the fight sells poorly to the boxing public, it could make it harder for Arum to get a better financial deal for Pacquiao when it comes to setting up a fight against the unbeaten Mayweather. This, of course, is contingent upon Mayweather beating 38-year-old Shane Mosley on May 1st.
Let’s be clear, Pacquiao’s numbers haven’t been as good as Mayweather’s against the same fighters. Mayweather’s fight against De La Hoya picked up 2.4 million pay per view buys, his fight against Marquez 1.05 million PPV buys and his fight against Hatton 850,000 PPV buys. In contrast, Pacquiao-De La Hoya only picked up 1.25 million PPV buys, his fight against Hatton 830,000 PPV buys and Marquez 400,000 PPV buys.
In every case, Mayweather has done better than Pacquiao in pay per view buys. If yet another fight of Mayweather’s does better than Pacquiao, it could make things much tougher to put together a fight against Mayweather unless Arum and Pacquiao are willing to give into to whatever demands – both financial and with Olympic style random blood testing – that Mayweather wants. Arum could have helped Pacquiao out in this situation by finding a better opponent than Clottey.
Even though the WBO sanctioning body has Clottey ranked number #1 in their welterweight rankings, this doesn’t translate into being number #1 with fan interest. You might as well rank Clottey as number 100 in terms of boxing fan interest in the United States, because most fans have never even heard of the guy. Unless this was a mandatory defense, which it isn’t in this case, Arum should have found Pacquiao a more popular fighter that could draw fans and get more interest.
By doing that, Arum would have ensured that Pacquiao got sensational PPV numbers and in turn this would help Pacquiao and Arum when it comes to making a fight with Mayweather in the future. Picking Clottey might have helped Arum in the short term to make good money, because after all, Clottey fights for Arum’s company Top Rank like Pacquiao does, meaning Arum wouldn’t have to share promotional money with another promoter.
However, I think it hurts Pacquiao because the Pacquiao-Clottey fight might not bring in big enough numbers for it to even come close to the Mayweather-Mosley PPV numbers. This will no doubt give Mayweather a big bargaining chip when it comes to negotiations with Pacquiao and Arum. This puts more pressure on Pacquiao to really dominate Clottey on Saturday and try to stop him in an impressive manner.
Despite what Pacquiao’s outspoken trainer Freddie Roach has been saying about Pacquiao likely stopping Clottey, Pacquiao could end up having a lot of problems with Clottey and could take a lot of punishment in the fight even while winning the fight. Clottey will be bigger by at least 10 to 20 pounds on the night of the fight with hand speed that is almost as good as Pacquiao’s.
With his size, power and defense, Clottey could make it very hard for Pacquiao to get his victory. That won’t be good for Pacquiao, because he needs to get Clottey out as fast as he can to avoid taking punishment from him.
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AND I WANT TO ADD THAT I FELT LIKE FLOYD LOST TO JOSE CASTILLO
IN THE FIRST FIGHT!!….WHAT DO YOU GUYZ THINK?
I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE GET MAD WHEN FLOYD TALKS TRASH ITS BEEN PART OF THE SPORT SINCE MUHAMMED ALI AND I DARE ONE PERSON TO TALK DOWN ON ALI FOR DOING THAT. IT PROMOTES FIGHTS AND ITS ENTERTAINING NOW WITH THAT SAID IL ADMIT IM A FAN OF BOTH FIGHTERS AND I MUST SAY THAT MANNY LOOKS LIKE THE QUICKER FIGHTER AND I THINK THAT HE HAS A 75 PERCENT CHANCE OF BEATING FLOYD KO OR NO KO
and jean the reason he didnt match up with delahoya was due to weight differance. they matched up at 154. fight night floyd only was 147 delahoya was almost 20 pounds more then floyd on fight night. and that match should not have been a split decision. floyd clearly outboxed and beat delahoya on point. he was probably afraid of bein robbed. not to mention the back and hand injurys he had not healed from. the numbers say he does not need manny. his opponents make more then manny. mosley will make double what manny made yesterday.
floyd does not need manny. he was hot b4 manny was and is still makin bank. makin 40 million for the mosley match. made over 20 million for the marquez match. you can hait him but people pay to watch him. he has sold more ppv then anyone one else out there. mike tyson is last person that was more of a draw then him. he needs no one he will make a lot of money for a while.
floyd needs manny more than manny needs him… why?
floyd is going to fade if he doesnt fight manny. noone will remember an undefeated fighter who had the most potential out of anyone, who never used his skills to its full extent.
people will remember manny for his achievements and even for what people say about him. best asian fighter, 7 time world champion in as many weight classes. for all i know, he was never proven guilty. floyd was asked to have a rematch with DLH and chose to retire instead of getting a 20 million pay day. think about that when you question why pacquiao refused blood testing. because DLH had a chance of beating floyd, he lost by SPLIT decision. why would floyd turn down a fight with DLH for that much just to keep his undefeated record? and why should he risk that against pacquiao?
“With his size, power and defense, Clottey could make it very hard for Pacquiao to get his victory. That won’t be good for Pacquiao, because he needs to get Clottey out as fast as he can to avoid taking punishment from him.”
Well, it went the whole 12 rounds, and guess what happened? Don’t quit you day job.
@Vince: I agree with you brother. I’ve been trying to tell people that Manny and PBF have to get through some tough fights in Clottey and Mosley for there to ever be a chance at a PBF vs Manny fight.
@gdup: There was no official weight on fight night saying that Clottey came in at 170lbs to fight Corrales I don’t remember them ever putting that up on the screen, it was all just hearsay and rumors. If you can show me an actual post during that fight I’ll believe that he hydrated up to 170 lbs, but to gain 20 lbs over night seems pretty far fetched.
For the most part what Bri said about Arum was correct. Cotto should have never been in the ring so quiclky after the Margarito beating he took, but you know Arum gotta get that money. To make things worse this greedy old man is pushing to get Margaritto his license back after what he did. I wonder if people know that Arum is getting 25% of Pacquiao’s purse.
In regards to the Pacquiao vs Mayweather fight let me just say this the last time Arum and the world was so confident
a fighter was going to beat his opponent in a super fight was Leonard Vs Hearns. I remember Arum saying “know nobodys gonna beat this kid.” refering to Hearns. Then Sugar knocked his ass out.
@vinny
The guy is saying that Clottey will come in at 170 cause he’s done it before in the past.
If they had ppv in Mannys home country it will do 3 million easy
90-10 split for PPV buys. Winner gets 90%. Assuming that they price PPVs at $50. Then a low estimate of 2M buys. That’s $100M. $10M for the loser ain’t bad.
Mayweather said that he would give a boxing clinic for pacquiao. then go! Prove it inside the ring instead of outside. let’s get it on!!!
20 lbs? Really? So this guy is saying that Clottey is going to be close to 170 lbs? I really doubt that, there goes the validity of this article. I have a solution to the negotiations: They should agree to 60/40 to the winner so if you win you take the bigger pot. That’s how all fights should be negotiated. The winner should be rewarded with the bigger financial reward!
Some of these comments are so stupid i wonder why they let them stay on here.I’m a PBF fan,but i’ve got to give Pac credit he’s good.Why do dumb so called boxing fans gotta resort to name calling.Both fighters are good,enjoy them while they are around,cause i plan on watching both fights cause Clottey and Mosely are very live underdogs.
Pacquiao’s PPV numbers might not be as good as Mayweather’s. but it is still impressive to obtain such a number while the world is in financial crisis.
if and when pac fights floyd mayweather he going to get a deserve pounding,floyd intended to get pac mad seeking a mad wild swinging pac ,bad mistake as ,pac is very discipline and focused,and ,once floyd get hurts,then the pounding and taking apart of floyd will begin .would love to see a humbled and speechless floyd.
Well wat if pac wins the ppv number will floyd accept less no!!!! So why sould pac !!! Floyd will never take less
Manny is a PED addict!!!
I did’nt really believe that KFC is afraid of Paquiao. Until I saw the tapes of him being interviewed by Larry Mercahnt and another by Mr. Kellerman. The mere mention of Pacman’s name made him stammer and stutter. His lips kept fluttering with obscenities & trash. He blabbered and sounded like an old beta tape on fast forward. That’s fear.
Now he avoids Filipinos. No, Mr. Floyd … Filipinos are as harmless as they come. Just shy away from those with backhoe parked in their frontyard.
if BRI is a moran nzBaby has no brain
even if arum, pacquiao et al agree to all of mayweather’s demands (purse split, random tests ad nauseum), do you actually think mayweather will have the balls to sign a contract to fight pacquiao? mayweather took a long time to sign a fight w/ 38yo mosley, who agreed to everything that mayweather asked
If Floyd is kind of scared then here’s a sweeter offer.
Winner-Take-All
If Pacquio wins, he will give you 50% of the money, because he’s a good guy.
If Floyd wins…Floyd Takes it All…plus 10 of Pacquiao’s entourage will serve you (wipe your ass etc.) for a month.
Who will refuse that? Floyd?
A smart chicken wouldn’t cross the road when there’s a PAC-SUV coming at 75 mph. A Stinking skunk took the chance and became roadkill. Now would Mr. Floyd rather be a live KFC or a skunk or both? Reading this, KFC and his uncles may take probably 3 days to figure out the moral of the story.
He will just bring up that he had 45000 live fans instead of 17000 it will still be 50-50 no matter wat floyd demands
Winner-Take-All…
Put your money on the table…Last Hooray!
If Floyd refuse this then he thinks he will loose.
How will he loose if all the time he belittles Pacquiao and
all the Great Boxers like Muhamad Ali…He’ claims that he is
the Greatest Boxer of All Time.
Winner Take All….Floyd!
Let’s see what you can do aside from Talking with your Big Mouth.
Pacquiao can count on me I ordered the great fight, but my budget axe’s Mayweather bout. Sorry Fraud I guess I’ll watch Mosley ko you on youtube.
whow i am not an expert in boxing but BRI your a moron
@@@@ JIGS QUESTION FOR YOU HOW IS FLOYD A COWARD WHEN HE HAS FOUGHT SAME FIGHTERS AS MANNY DELAHOYA AND HATTON. AND HOW IS HE A COWARD WHEN HE IS STEPPING UP AGAINST THE TOP WELTERWEIGHT IN THE WORLD THAT MANNY REFUSED TO FIGHT AND FOUGHT COTTO INSTEAD. NONE OF THESE GUYS ARE COWARDS. YOU DONT FACE THE CALIBER OF FIGHTERS THEY ARE FACING IF YOU ARE A COWARD. ILL SAY ONE THING ********* ABRUM NOT IN THE PICTURE.******** MANNY FLOYD GETS DONE. ABRM WANTS TO KEEP ALL THE MONEY INHOUSE. CANT BLAME HIM BUT HE IS NOT LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE SPORT OR HIS FIGHTERS. WHY PUT COTTO BACK IN THE RING SO SOON AFTER ALL THE WARS HE WAS IN THE PAST YEAR. HE SHOULD BE TELLING HIM TO RELAX AND TAKE SOME TIME OFF BUT ABRUM DOES NOT CARE ABOUT CLOTTEY, MANNY, MARGARITO, OR COTTO. THEY ARE NOTHING BUT PAYCHECKS TO HIM.
FLOYD REALIZED THIS A LONG TIME AGO AND LEFT ABRUM SINCE THEN HIS CAREAR HAS GONE THROUGH THE ROOF. HOPEFULLY THERES GUYS REALIZE IT AS WELL B4 ITS TOO LATE.
money maywheater have to change his name to midget lover or the excuse men
PPV NUMBERS WONT MATTER SINCE MANNY FLOYD IS NEVER GONA HAPPEN ANYWAY. MANNY ISNT GONA DO THE BLOOD TEST. AND FLOYD IS NOT GONA BACK OFF BLOOD TEST. NO WAY MANNY GETS 50/50 SPLIT THIS TIME NO WITH THE PPV COMPARISONS. ABRUM HAS ALREADY SAID MANNY WILL BE FACING MARGARITO NEXT. IN SEPTEMBER OR NOVEMBER.
they will be fine with there PPV sells
come on guys,floyd is so gealous of many’s achivements and the drug situacion is another floyd excuses not to fight
remember what happend around the 10 round floyd vs baldomir
people leaving the arena early becouse floyd performance you would NEVER see that hapening in manys fights sorry guys
pacman is all time great…. floyd is all time coward
im buying
No need for leverage.
They will just offer a winner take all.
Floyd will agree.. because
1. Pacquiao is small.
2. Pacquiao is one dimensional.
3. Pacquiao has no skills.
4. Pacquiao is an easy fight.
5. Pacquiao needs steroids.
6. Mayweather is best boxer of all time.
What can you say?