Will Valero be even more popular than Pacquiao in a year or two?
February 8th, 2010
By Dave Lahr: Okay, so WBC lightweight champion Edwin Valero (27-0, 27 KO’s) already has a better record than Manny Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KO’s) after only eight years as a pro.
Pacquiao has been fighting for 15 years now in the pro ranks and has tasted the bitter feels of defeats three times already, including two draws. Valero has a perfect record of 27-0 with 27 knockouts. You can’t get any better than that, can you?
Valero can be another Oscar De La Hoya if he can learn some English and start giving interviews, and being seen more by American audiences. And if Valero can sing a little, he’ll really help his case even more. I’ve heard Pacquiao’s singing before and I hate it.
If Valero can out-sing Pacquiao, then we’re really talking. Okay, so I think Valero has the better style of fighting compared to Pacquiao. Valero is like a punching machine and just stands in the pocket unleashing bomb after bomb at his opponents, daring them to try and land something on his chin.
Granted, Valero’s style of fighting may be a little crude compared to some fighters, but with his nonstop punching, his opponents don’t get much of a chance to throw any counter shots at him.
Pacquiao uses an annoying hit and run style of fighting that I find boring to watch. It’s like watching someone play tag with someone. Forget that. I don’t want to see someone hitting and running. I’d much rather watch a fighter like Valero with big power just leveling his opponents with a storm of heavy power punches until they either fall or – in the case of Valero’s opponent last Saturday night Antonio DeMarco – quit on their stool to save their backsides.
Valero is just too good. And I think in a maybe one or two years, Valero is going to be hogging the spotlight in boxing with his still perfect knockout record. By then, people will be begging to put Valero in with Pacquiao. I can see Valero calling the shots on equal footing with Pacquiao at that point, if Manny is still around by then. If Pacquiao retires, so much the better for Valero.
He’d have no one to compete with for the glory. The dude is going places and I can’t see anyone touching him for the next five to seven years. Valero has too much power for anyone to compete with him. The only way Valero loses is if they move up too fast to welterweight or light middleweight divisions without letting him ease his way in.
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valero is one hard punching boxer so therefore he is using steroids or peds, i demand olympic drug testing for this one.
VALERO IS THE MAN NEXT BIG FGHTER
you just added valero as another fighter that mayweather has to DUCK!
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you said:
“Edwin Valero (27-0, 27 KO’s) already has a better record than Manny Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KO’s) after only eight years as a pro.”
pacquiao turned pro at 16…he was a little kid when he first got beat…he had two losses by the time he was the age valero turned pro…& valero is 28 & has still fought NO-ONE. there is a 2/3 year difference in age & pac has had 25 more fights than valero. when pac was valero’s age he was fighting odlh, mab & jmm…you’re saying valero is better cos he beat demarco & pitalua?
yeah…right. get a grip…& not on your magic wand.
Hell no,Not impress,His performance not impressive.I would rate it a C.He’s easily cut,And keep his hands low.Bradley will slaughter him.
TO DAVE LAHR: THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD OR READ ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO FOUND PACQUIAO BORING IN HIS FIGHTS. IF PACQUIAO BORES YOU, THEN IT WOULD BE A LOGICAL CONCLUSION THAT MAYWEATHER PUTS YOU TO SLEEP. WHY DON’T YOU GROW UP AND BE A GENUINE BOXING WRITER FOR ONCE. AS FOR VALERO, HE WOULD BE A MORE EXCITING FIGHT FOR PACQUIAO THAN MAYWEATHER COULD EVER BE.
To Valero:
Take care man! If Mayweathers notice you . . . you will be in big trouble. They may say you’re on drugs also as you have outshine their baby chicken jr.
Valero is still untested. By the time he’s ready… Pacquiao would be retired already.
No Manny P will go down as one of the greatest of all time
NO
Another option for Valero. Paul Malignaggi. Valero could shut that big mouth. Paul will look like a chicken running around chase by Valero.
Valero VS Bradley…Good match. If Valero fight Pacquiao now he will be history. Pacquiao could kill him.
Anybody who has knockout power is always a threat..he may still be raw and a little to me…but should be fighting rated fighters more to even become better..he took out Velazquez in the 6th round..same as Manny. But Velazquez was younger then..but who knows, if he gets decent trainer then maybe, he will be Manny’s heir to the throne!
Valero hasn’t fought anyone of note.Why the hell should he get a shot at Manny?
Valero should figth Bradley & Khan before fighting Pacquiao. If he wins that fights then maybe he’s deserve to fight Pacquiao.
Pacquiao uses an annoying hit and run style of fighting that I find boring …. hahaha, i’m sorry, i just cannot help but hahahaha … otherwise, pacman – valero would be fireworks!
i would give valero props if he fights bradley as i heard over the weekend. he’s got no chance but those are the kind of fights valero needs to warrant a superfight with a star like pacquiao or marquez. i’d like to see him in against humberto soto. that would be an all out shootout. demarco was too green for valero. soto aint going nowhere.
you write exactly the same in all your arguments. different names, same person, same weak arguments. everyone please. stop the nuthugging.
as soon as i read the part were the writer said “valero already has a better record than pacquiao” i stopped reading immediately.
Not only will Valero b popular,but he’ll beat miss PAC mans ass. I’d rather see valero fight miss pacman,than manny fight gaywaether. Believe me folks,valero vs manny will be a exciting f$&king fight..no dought!!!!
Let’s see what his record is after 55 fights. He’s only a few years younger than Manny, and Manny has fought the best out there, winning countless world titles on the way in seven weight classes! You’re talking rubbish.
Valero is exciting as hell to watch and he can box but he will never get close to Pacquiao’s stardom worldwide maybe in the US but Pac is known all over Asia and hes really known for his humble attitude but who knows he could.
Awful article. In fact, proberly the worst i have ever read. Its very easy to become aroused by a record which is flawless without delving deeper. In short, Valero has fought nobody. Once he steps up his K.O percentage will decline and once he fights a slick boxer he will be exposed.
‘Pacquiao has an annoying hit and run style’. THat has got to be the most ignorant comment ever.
Please, author, stick to WWE or something, boxing is not for you.
Liam…Manuel…is that you? LOL
My God, Dave! You must really have an axe to grind with Manny because you always have something negative to say with each turn of a corner! I find it funny, though that you’re always comparing every other boxer to the true P4P King of the Ring, Manny Pacquiao. Ha!
No offense to Valero as I think he’s a good fighter. But this writer is so anti-Pacquiao. I won’t be surprised if Dave Lahr finds his car scratched and keyed in everytime.
If Pacquiao is great, then Marquez, Barrera and Morales are great too. Because it took a great boxer to beat them.
Yes,Valero is good with impressive record(27-0,27 KO)but challenging Pacquiao, I think it’s not time yet to do that.You must prove something.Take first some elite fighters out there like Khan,Bradley or Marquez,then if you beat these guys maybe you have a chance to challenge Pacquiao.
Of course, Valero can get in the ring with the PacMan – now, or later. However, if Valero gets beat…some sportswriters are likely to beat up Pacquiao, saying this and that about him, how it was really an unfair fight, etc. I think no matter what Pac does, there are some who’ll try to bring him down for one reason or another!
Pacman is not only backing up by his entire countrymen. He is being backed-up worldwide even Hollywood actors in America. And, Pacman is not a boring fighter to watch. For your information Mr. Lahr (sounds like lahar, lava or mudflow)there are people in his country who had died, had heart attack while watching Pacman’s fight because of the fact that Pacman is so great. So could WRITE something based on the facts, not on your biased opinion? Will you?
this article is very opinionated
marquez vs valero will be a exiting match up
valero will never be as popular as manny .pac boring ?
Dave Lahr: “Pacquiao uses an annoying hit and run style of fighting that I find boring to watch.”
I am positive that you should have put Floyd Mayweather instead. Pacquiao is no boring fighter and a fight against Valero would be more exciting to watch than Mayweather.
Watching Bobby Pacquiao?
Loser…..
yes he will be more popular in a couple of years ..eventualy pacfans will get bored to death of seeing there idol take on washed up beaten down fighters !! instead of proving people wrong about washed up fighters or roids or whatever pac will give up and retire and run for office a wealthy man…thats entertainment !!
Dave; your articles are a train wreck! They start out shocking and horrific and then evoke a sheer morbid curiosity from your readers. this MUST be your MO? As you can’t possibly be as simple as you come across. Can you? If you are for real,then I don’t know how you even dress yourself in the morning?
Valero is now the “second most popular boxer” in the planet behing Pacquaio. If Pacman retires, then Valero will be the most popular boxer. No offense to Floyd (who has probably 89 fans – half of them paid so-so writers)
Dave, better lick Valero’s ass for 24 hours and drop dead. I’ll pick you up from there to bring you to hell through the dancing feet of Mayweather, Jr. The senior Mayweather will welcome you there and revive you with the drugs he usually takes to be high. In Satan’s kingdom, your brain will be reinvented to see things right and then you might have the chance to come back to earth and be able to enjoy the fights of great boxers. BON VOYAGE. HAVE A NICE TRIP.
As soon as I see By Dave Lhar at the top of an article I don’t see words I just see a big steaming cow pat.
This writer is dumb!!! there’s no comparison on pac and valero. pac has losses early in his career because he has to fight the best along the way to be recognised. He went straight to professional boxing at 16 years old and was not forced feed with bum fighters as some of the promoters do to protect their fighter and accumulate wins like mayweather.
You know Mr. Dave Lahr, I’m a Filipino … If Valero surpasses Manny’s accomplishments then I’m happy for him. What’s the problem with that? … Give credit where credit is due. I don’t know what’s the problem with you, seems like you have a terrible inferiority complex and is very upset with yourself. I’m guessing you had a lonely childhood, no friends … Oh man, I pity you.
and you enjoy mayweather’s style? run and run until his opponent gets bored to death and let him win just to get over the dance.
make your own choice…. or be PEREZ… or SANTIAGO… or a MAYWEATHER… those people are su)k like you before they were born.
I don’t read this writer’s article anymore coz I know he’s going to criticize my idol Pacquiao. I just read the comments.
Some deep-seated anger he has against Pac probably because he is a mexican and couldn’t face up to the fact that Pac’s beat them all, and Lahr can’t just move on. So just understand this guy. Don’t worry he won’t be around when pacquiao has retired from Boxing.
good fight but valero has alot of flaws. first he cuts easily. second he fights with his hands down and his mouth open. if he gets hit by a big puncher he’s gonna get his jaw broken. i want to see him with bigger name fighters. not these no namers.
C’mon now, Valero hasn’t had to run the gauntlet of Mexican greats that Pacquiao did. Valero hasn’t even come close to waging the wars that Pacquiao did with Morales, Barrera, and Marquez. He has yet to have those career defining fights. I still think the guy is more hype than substance at this point. Yes, he’s got power, yes he looked good/improved last night against DeMarco, but as anyone will tell you, power only gets you so far. Remember guys like Pavlik, Miranda? Total beasts with plenty of power, but both ran into styles that completely confounded them. DeMarco made the mistake of trying to beat Valero at his own game. Today’s elite fighters won’t make that same mistake.
This writer, make that “blogger”, Lahr never fails to amaze me,
it amazes how idi*tic he becomes when tryin to put down pacman’s achievements. He saw one fight of valero, against at class c(maybe lower) fighter then started preaching the “he will be more popular than pacman” gospel. Comeon ur just making a fool of yourself but i guess thats what youre good at.
F.Mayweather and E.Valero dont talk to much,if you dont like to be a second Ricky Hatton.Only one humiliating defeat and your boxing story will end.
Edwin Valero got guts wanting to fight Pacman,atleast he is not a coward unlike Floyd Mayweather who is making so many excuses.
Valero will not stand a chance against Manny b’cuz Valero is not yet battle tested against the best.Manny can take a punch and way faster than Valero.
Just by using the phrase “the dude” you just lost your credibility as a writer. I respect your opinion but you’re not going to get anywhere with it by putting down other boxers just so the one you favor will look better. I don’t think you’re doing Valero any favors by making childish remarks such as “I hate Pacquiao’s singing”. Valero does have potential but he’s been beating up on nobodies right now so until he starts messing with bigger names he’s not going anywhere.
No, its Pacman is just too good thats why you cant even mention his one, two or three times knock downs of his opponents in one fight. All your great has been KO by Pacman thats why you want to let everyone that you dont like Pacman. Its very obvious, you can’t even mention that Pacman is knocking them out one by one and retiring them one by one. Theres always gonna be people like you who dont really write about facts but just write to discredit anyone who knock down “their very own”..
pathetic….don’t know what youre doing in journalism…because journalism dont need prejudice people like you…
Pacquiao would destroy him twice as easy as he did Cotto. It wouldn’t even be competitive. Your such a wanker. You probaly tell people Apollo Creed is the greatest fighter ever. Go jerk off over a Van Dam movie you tosser!
Saying Manny’s style is boring is like saying Floyd is a knockout puncher. Saying Manny’s style is hit-and-run is like saying Floyd is a brawler. Saying you find Manny’s style is annoying is like saying Floyd’s style is electrifying.
I use Floyd as a comparison because I believe (by having read your other articles on here) that you are Anti-Manny and Pro-Floyd.
So be it, but you are on an island by saying Manny’s a hit and run puncher.
…ryan
granted he does have a similar style to pac man, at least a young manny. But honestly he shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence as manny. most writers on here are jumping on pac man but after the fight i figured everyone would be saying that valero could stop floyd. I’m almost ashamed in the writers on this web page. valero is no where near pac or floyd there in a catagorie of threre own and to get there you have to prove yourself against way better fighters then a 24 year old demarco. i want to see a fight with valero and bradley or even hatton.
Maybe you’re trying to make Pacman look like Floyd Mayweather because thats actually who youre talking about…a boring hit and run style….everybody knows that including you…so why pretend that you’re talking about Pacman. Thats not even Pacmans style u idiot!! Pacman knows how to fight and boxing is actually fighting…Im sorry to say youre obviously a very prejudice writer…Pacman had clearly, obviously and without no doubt knocking down his opponents, not once , not twice but three or more times during a fight and yet you cant even credit him for anything…why because youre so jealous and prejudice…anyway Pacman can whoop Valeros ass anytime…he can knock down all the ones you like, piece of cake, man !
This is what you call jealousy. If you cant stand watching Pacquiao why bothered compare him to someone else. Mr Lahr probably you cant stand more when 60 Minutes make a profile for Pacquiao, if that would go thru of course. Pacquiao hit and run style? You already mentioned “STYLE”, that’s what boxer diff from other boxer they have their own style and they change their styles for diff opponent. Probably its Mayweather that you are trying to mentioned, thats his style and it hasnt change til now.
No, Valero is not that great. His weakness is the same as Manny’s: he won’t be able to deal with a real counter-puncher. Manny’s punches are much crisper and cleaner. Valero can overwhelm his opponents with good power and high output, but put him in with a world-class opponent and he gets destroyed. Put him in with Marquez tomorrow and he’ll be lucky to win one round. However, with Arum as his promoter look for him to be babied along. When Marquez is around 40 Valero might fight him. Heck, he should try and get Morales right now. Morales has only had one fight since his last with Manny, so we can proclaim Valero a superhuman worldbeater if he can beat Morales, then Barrera, then a 40 year old Marquez. Then he could move up and fight ODLH at 147. Right now, I don’t see Valero as being the next great thing, but I would pick him in a bout with ODLH at 147, and definitely over Hatton. If he has a halfway decent chin he could take Cotto at 145 too. So, actually he could be that popular.
The problem seems to be will he ever be allowed to fight in the US?? Texas is probably his best chance, but I’m not sure even they will let him fight unless they can get a respectable doctor to tell them it’s no danger.
I agree with your comment mr.ryan dunn,you are right,valero’s 27 opponents are not yet a big star in boxing.why suddenly they ask Pacman to fight valero.Let this valero fight first a worthy opponent.Conquer first jww crown and ww crown,before he choose pacman as main opponent.Valero is just like nassem hammed before of u.k.
Valero? really? it’s like saying chavez jr is a great fighter because he’s undefeated. 27-0 with 27 KO is impressive but look at the quality of his opposition.. like ryan said, he hasn’t been tested yet.. he’s got some punching power but defensively he aint there yet. And Pacquiao’s style is boring to you? wow! common… haha…
@Dave Lahr,
You’re such a Pacquiao hater. You can’t just give the guy his due. You even said “Pacquiao uses an annoying hit and run style of fighting that I find boring to watch.’ What?!? Are you crazy or something. Well that’s your opinion, but you’re the only person I heard who said “…its boring to watch.” Maybe when Pacquiao releases his 3-4 combo of punches you close your eyes because you feel like riding in a roller coaster… its just too much for you to take. So, you think Mayweather is more exciting ha. Or you realized Mayweather is really boring so you have to find another fighter to worship. Now Valero is more exciting. I’m not saying Valero is or isn’t. But your one sided analysis and blind hatred or Pacquiao’s acchievements confirms that you’re a joke trying to be a boxing analyst.
If Valero is really good as this writer thinks he is, then he has to fight against at least 4 name fighters (Marquez,Bradley, Cotto, Berto, etc.) before he can challenge Pacquiao.
Worth noting, once upon a time, Ricky Hatton was 27-0 with 24 KO’s, with 14 bouts for a belt (to Valero’s 8). He was also 45-0 with 32 KO’s, and had fought some good fighters (Tszyu, Urango, Castillo), but he couldn’t compete at the topmost level, as he was taken to school by Mayweather and then taken to next winter by Pacquiao.
Just saying, let’s not jump the shark here. Tons of promise, lots to prove.
…ryan
You just wait and see Pacquiao will overpower Valero, and when did Pacquiao hit & run in his fights?
You looking to be one of the early ones who jumped on Valero’s bandwagon so that when he’s big and famous you can say I told you so? Just slow down partner, let him fight some elite opposition lest he become another Ricky Hatton.
And how does this make sense:
“Okay, so WBC lightweight champion Edwin Valero (27-0, 27 KO’s) already has a better record than Manny Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KO’s) after only eight years as a pro.”
Valero has to fight twice as many fights and stay undefeated to have a better record than Manny. And he has to fight some 1st rate opponents, even top contenders, not necessarily champions right now.
You can’t say anything definitive about Valero yet, other than he’s shown some very impressive punching power and some suspect defense.
You guys seem to get so pumped on a guy before he’s tested his mettle with a real opponent. Yes, 27 KO’s in 27 fights is impressive (even more impressive is that 19 of the KO’s are 1st rounders!), but it’s time he started to step up to the next level (Marquez, Moses, Guzman, Mitchell), then he can head up to 140 and fight Bradley, Urango, Khan, etc. Then see if he can find strength at 145 and take on the Berto’s, Mosley’s, Mayweather’s and Pacquiao’s of the world.
Until then…
…ryan
Maybe in acouple of years as you say.
I think after watching his victory over DeMarco that he has very good defence and good at making punches hit the mark. but he will need to learn how to hit alot harder if he wants to step in the ring with ring veteran Manny Paquaio.
Maybe in acouple of years, maybe. But Manny won’t be fighting in acouple of years from now.
Maybe Valero the next big thing after Manny retires & hands in the crown.