Why I believe Mayweather is a better fighter than Pacquiao
February 3rd, 2010
By Jonathan Bail:
Mayweather-Mosley on cards
I’m a person who has a love boxing and i’m on the internet almost everyday checking out various boxing websites for the latest fight news.
But I come across a lot of biased opinions or people that have not got a clue about the sport. Yes, ok everyone is entitled to their own opinion and has their own favourite fighters but this Mayweather-Pacquiao saga will not go away, I agree Pacquiao is an exciting fighter and has been sensational the last 3 years but lets be real in terms of being great. I see a lot of people saying Pacquiao is the better fighter and has the better record, whoever says this really needs their head examining and here’s why:
Floyd is a 6 time world champion in 5 weight classes and is still undefeated. He was ring magazine’s number one P4P fighter from July 2005 to June 2008. He was also named ring fighter of the year in 1998 and 2007.
He has victories over an abundance of excellent fighters that include:
1996: First professional bout against Roberto Apodaca who he knocked out in the 2nd round.
1999: Mayweather won the WBC Junior Lightweight championship against Genaro Hernandez who had never been beaten at this particular weight. His corner stopped the bout after round 8.
2001: Mayweather fought Diego Corrales, at the time Corrales had never been defeated or even knocked down. Mayweather won every round and knocked Corrales down 5 times and Corrales’ corner stopped the fight.
2002: Mayweather stepped up to lightweight and faced Jose Luis Castillo twice for the WBC and Ring Lightweight belts. Mayweather won both bouts and on the night of the second bout Castillo outweighed Mayweather by 9 pounds. Castillo weighed 147 and Mayweather weighed 138 (for those who say he only fights smaller fighters).
2004: Mayweather moved up to Junior Welterweight and fought DeMarcus Corley. He knocked Corley down in rounds 8 and 10 but won the bout by UD.
2005: Mayweather fought the great Arturo Gatti for the WBC Super Lightweight title. Floyd landed with almose every big shot he threw in a total dominance of Gatti and Gatti’s corner stopped the bout after round 6. Giving Mayweather a 3rd world title.
2005: Floyd went on to fight Sharmba Mitchell at 147 in a none title bout which ended in round 6 after a straight right to the body.
2006: Mayweather fought Zab Judah for the IBF and IBO world welterweight titles. Mayweather won by UD with the official scorecards of 116-112, 117-111 and 119-109.
2006: Up next was WBC and the Ring welterweight champion Carlos Baldomir who was totally dominated and Floyd won by UD.
2007: Mayweather stepped up to face Oscar De La Hoya for the WBC Super Welterweight title which required Floyd to step up from 147 to 154lbs. Mayweather won by split decision.
2007: He fought the undefeated Ricky Hatton and defended his WBC Welterweight belt totally dominating Hatton and eventually getting him out of there in round 10.
2009: He came out of retirement to face the excellent Lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez in a totally outstanding performance between 2 world class fighters, but Floyd made Marquez look like an amateur.
2010: Mayweather-Mosley is scheduled to happen on May 1st in a much anticipated bout for Mosley’s welterweight title.
People might say this is a very biased article but if you look at it in boxing terms and fighting the best you’ll see that Floyd’s record is nothing short of excellent which started all the way back in 1996. 13 years later he’s still at the top.
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manny can easily destroy mayweather or mosley,manny hve the speed and power that is the truth. he is not a boring fighter.
Mayweather had a very good amateur career(6 losses) so he is very fundamentally sound. He was also a great featherweight and a great lightweight, but the jury is still out on the quality of his work as a welterweight so his overall legacy is still a work in progress, but there’s a very good reason why he lost out to Pacquiao, by more than a 2 to 1 margin, for BWAA’s Fighter of the Decade award. Pacquiao, on the other hand, had to fight as a 16-year old professional right away even without the benefit of amateur training so that he could help feed his family. After 7 fights with 3 of the greatest featherweights of all time and 4 fights against naturally bigger opponents on his way to an unprecedented 7 titles in 7 weight classes, Pacquiao has demonstrated that while he may not be the most technically proficient boxer, he is certainly one of the bravest and most entertaining. His legacy is certainly more intact than Mayweather’s legacy. If you are partial to boxing by the numbers then you will probably gravitate to Mayweather’s highly defensive and technical style. But if, on the other hand, you want to see a real fight, then you’ve probably been enjoying Pacquiao’s career for the last 10 years or so. Different strokes for different folks.
Money, your statement that Manny got the award because of his promoter brings up the issue of Poultry Boy’s promoter. Is he not self promoted? If he is then he was unable to sell himself and therefore sold himself short. It’s like the old saying, anyone defends himself in a court of law has a fool for a lawyer. Now that heas lost he better have a face to face meeting with his promoter. Better still, he better get back to Arum if he wants to win it in ten years. Of course I am poking fun at your inane answer.
I am sure you do not really believe that statement. I said it before, I do not have to respect their predictions but I do respect their opinions of fighters more than I would that of biased fans of a boxer. Of course some of Manny’s fans would probably have been upset if he had not won and that is why we can’t listen to fans.
This is not a popularity contest like American Idol or even Dancing with the Stars. Let the experts make the picks and right or wrong at least there is not that preconceived bias. I would more readily accept the opinion of a Bert Sugar, Dan Rafael, Al Bernstein, Kevin Iole, Manny Steward and Michael
Marley, to name a few experienced writers, than I would most Floyd or Pacman’s fans.
Sugar Ray Leonard retired a few times and each time he came back he had to try to get back his titles but each time it was more difficult. When Floyd retired no one put a gun to his head. He had the chance to face the best boxers at his weight class but he elected to face guys not in his division. That is his fault and the writers saw that.
Are you telling me that had he beaten Cotto and Margarito or Willaims and Mosley, instead of Oscar, Marquez, Baldomir, Judah & Hatton, that he would not have received the award unanimously? I am a fan of boxing and he would have won me back and I too would have had to vote for him. I would be the 1st person here defending him.
I believe in fair play and am not a hater like some childish people at this site calls people who ask deep questions of a fighter who they love. I gave Manny some slack as he was moving up to face bigger guys but now he is a full welter he has to face guys at their full weight. He has to clean out the division. Sure he can take a money fight but he has to meet the best or retire.
The champ of Wimbledon or The US have to defend their titles against the best. If like Nadal at Wimbledon he can’t make it or is injured in Australia, sorry, but his title is gone. If you can’t compete at the top level then retire live Lewis but do not stick around claiming to be the best and not fighting the best. I would respect Manny if he retired but if he was to start avoiding the best I would say the same things I am now saying about Floyd.
I am a fan of boxing and I still love the retired fighters but stay retrired when you’ve had enough. Do not try to fool us by fighting only bums and don’t stay on too long. It’s dangerous. Right now I am angry with my fav Super Roy for staying on too long and damaging his legacy.
no mayweather isnt on steroids and he aint afraid to back it up .. thats the differece..i dont think anyone said floyd should unretire and be right on top..i think money may. said the reason manny is p4p is cause floyd retired when he did !! floyd tried to make the fight happen , dont blame him ..so hes moved on to a fight people actually WANT to watch !!
toxic, exactly we cant not have a pound for pound champ because mayweather retires. What about pacman who has been fighting while floyd was retired so now mayweather is back its like oh no sorry but he’s back now so ur not the p4p champ. Thats not how it works if mayweather thinks hes still no1 the he must beat pacman to reclaim his place at the top
sorry wayne , but manny got the boxing title “of the decade” because of his promoter , everone knows that..hes no dout the fighter of the year ..shoot the last couple of years ..hes been beat several times already by b-level fighters and some top fighters !! floyd “retired” for a year or two and thats the only reason manny is top p4p !! think about it and you know its true !! when he gets the balls to fight floyd and beats him , then even I will call him “of the deacade”..until then , i too will watch all his fights , he is a great and very entertaining fighter
Wayne Lord,
can you just repeat that for me..
lifeinthering u fail to understand the rules of the coveted p4p title,
u lose the belt (recognition)
when u lose in the ring or when u retire.
get it?? so where does floyd come in this argument? well he retired hence he no longer was the p4p champ. were not saying that he’s deminished were saying he no longer is the p4p champ. u want it back?? then fight for it. nuff said.
In the ring the records & our perceptions become meaningless.
Floyd had 2 tough fights with Castillo, Coralles KO’s Castillo, Floyd walks right thru Coralles.
You know the story; for every fighter there’s an antidote.
I would say Floyd is a technically better boxer than Pac. However, come fight night, if it ever comes, what I or anyone else says means nothing.
Pac may have that ‘intangible’ that gets him the win. If it becomes necessary Floyd may dig down & show us something we’ve never seen as well.
In the end, they’re both great. Period. One guy has to lose, but it doesn’t make either one of them a looser.
Dale,
Repeat that one more time please…you said while mayweather was RETIRED pac put on great fights making him p4p champ. But if mayweather never retired pac would have had to beat him to become p4p champ. It took mayweather retiring for pac to be seen in the public and boxing communitys eye as p4p champ. Now that mayweather is back people claim he is garbage or not a real fighter? How is this if he was P4P champ? He retired p4p and now that he is back he hasn’t lost which means essentially he is still p4p champ until pac beats mayweather he is not truly p4p imo.
dale
just remember the reason pac is #1 p4p..thats BECAUSE floyd retired when he did to make way !! now manny p. is scared too fight him.. people shouldnt get mad at floyd mayweather .. he tried to fight the person people said is the best …his people dont want him to fight floyd yet, so floyd went to the one of the best out there in mosley ..people said hatton was great cause he kosta zoo..most people had j.m.m. on the high end of the p4p when floyd crushed and embarresed him ..floyd could have fought a gimme like clotty but he is giving the fans a fight they want to see!! how much has writen lately about pac vs. clotty ?? ive noticed too all the floyd haters have decreased alot on all boards !!
Wow lovely how u failed 2 mention that just about every one thinks mayweather lost his 1st fight against castillo but u mention that he was outweighed in the second fight. Entertaining fighters are great fighters and while mayweather is great at what he does he isnt the most entertaining fighter pacman is and thats why he’s number one at the moment while mayweather was retired pacman was putting on devastating performances.
i agree that this is fight that has to happen in order to see who is the better fighter out of pac-man and mayweather however i dnt belive pac-man has the right style to beat mayweather as he is a brawler however i do think pac-man style could be difficult for money mayweather to handle. This fight needs to happen :@
dont get me wrong pacquiao is won of the best fighters of our generation but i dont beleive he would be able to handle mayweathers defence skills and slick stile. pacquia is just as straight brawler that is extremley powerful and has fast hands whereas maywheather is a defensive artist and picks he punches alot better however he picked his punches well when he beat hatton. even though in my mind floyd would beat the pac-man i beleive this is a fight were no one can say he is better till the fight atully happens which it now probably never will
WATCH-UP LIL FLOYD HAVE AN INJURY’S COMING SOON!!!!!!!!!
yes mayweather is a better boxer with this list of less credible opponents,i agree with you 10%!
…yes i agree with you jonahan, mayweather is better than pacquiao…that is why the BWAA overwhelmingly voted the pacman as fighter of the year and fighter of the decade! where do we place the better fighter now named mayweather? best fighter of the mayweather clan? or fighter of the decay?
how is anyone on that list better than Barrera, Morales, Cotto and a Prime (featherweight/lightweight) Marquez whom Pacquiao defeated.
this writer knows nothing, obviously.
Totoybato, great comment. That is what I have been saying all along. Blood testing doesn’t bother May. It does bother Pac. May was exploiting this difference to gain an edge in the fight. He hoped this constant unlimited random blood testing would wreak havoc on Pac’s training. If it weakens him for 3 days, how is he supposed to have an effective training camp if every other day someone comes along to stick another needle into his vein? May wanted an edge just like with Marquez. Fighting someone over the hill, past his prime and two weight classes beneath him was not enough of an edge for him. He had to cheat just to make totally sure he woudl not have any chance of losing his 0. What a fraud. And the writer of this article refers to Artuo Gatti as the “great” Arturo Gatti. In whose eyes? When was Arturo Gatti every considered “great”? Didn’t he lost to the “great” Mickey Ward?
in my opinion, mayweather is a great fighter but not great as pacquiao. pacquiao has an extra ordinary skills and not just beating his opponent but he destroy and dominate them.
i believe that mayweather can beat mosley but in a very close fight. if he stop and knock out mosley he gain my respect and he deserve to be the king of the ring in welterweight division.
and yes mr jonathan, you failed to compare how they behave as a fighter,first on floyd: he is a certified cheater re weight,remember marquez issue?he is a user of xyclocain as exposed by a writer in his previous fights, and paquiao was constantly tested negative in all his fights.
oh floyd, why so silent about the xyclocain issue,why not deny or confirm it so can start and go on with your crusade of cleansing boxing, ok we know already that you cheated marquez of 2lbs,c’mon man speak about the xylocain,is it true or not?defend yourself man.
a boxing fan at what level, i belive we are all fans but you dont have to insult people that you think are not as informed has you, we can all write comments that people like and dislike,
if you dislike dont write you article, which on face value is a boxers fight history, and in my view (counts for nothing) he has lost his zero a long time ago.’ you yanks are really unbeliveable most of your sportstars are drug cheats, baseball, gridiron, basketball even the olympics, and you lot accuse everyone else of cheating,
pacman a better boxer and most important a better person, now please inform us all of HIS boxing history SO WE CAN COMPARE
this writer is better than ring magazine. ring magazine, the bible of boxing, is biased and does not know anything about boxing because they rank pacquiao number one and gave him the fighter of the decade award. ring magazine sucks and this writer is great… NOT!
Pretty weak argument. “The Great Gatti”!!??WTF, he was barely a c level fighter by the time he fought PBF. You’re kidding right? Carlos Baldomir? B level at best. Zab Judah proved years before that he lacked the mentality to compete at the top level. Too bad cuz he has some natural talent, which was probably his downfall. It came too easy too soon. Sharmba Mitchell was wayyy past his best at the time he fought PBF and on his best day would never have been able to beat him. Even an aged decrepit DLH won a couple of rounds off Floyd. Oscar was in semi retirement for about 3 years by the time he fought PBF. I like the mention of Coralles he was good. Castillo also, but many feel that he split that series. Definitely didn’t walk through him. Sorry dude, still don’t buy the argument. If those are really the best names on PBFs record you will see a quick decline in his all time rankings shortly after his final retirement, kinda the opposite of what Larry Holmes has gone through. He has garnered more respect as the years have passed.
vinny…was Pac’s victory over DLH impressive? yes it was..and guess what the only reason Floyd’s win over JMM was minimized is becasue he made him look like a club fighter. Fact is JMM fought 2 fights at 135 before fighting Floyd which is a 12 pound difference to 147 however he actually only weighed 144 which means it was a 9 pound gain..whereas Pac only had 1 fight at 135 before fighting DLH at 147. Taking this into consideration it would seem that people only discredit Floyd for winning because it was so easy yet nobody talked smack about DLH fighting Pac since he lost.
Flody’s talent is a blessing and a curse..a blessing in so much that he is extremely talented..a curse because no matter what he does he’ll be citicized because he makes it look so easy.
i think u the writer forget that in the first bout, Jose Luis Castillo was clearly the winner. Wacth it again please!
@ Jonathan Bail
Yes everyone is entitled to an opinion and yes there are a lot of people that post and don’t know so much about the sport. At first it irritated me but now i choose to ignore it.
I watched the Castillo/Mayweather 1 fight again yesterday and i must tell you that in regards to that fight there was no way Mayweather won it! Seriously watch the fight over and over. Score it every time and you will see. So actually Mayweather is 39-1. Don’t get me wrong Mayweather is an exceptional boxer but Castillo was cheated out of a victory against Floyd.
Floyd can’t knock real quality welterweights. Check your facts. What make you think he can knock Mosely or Pacman?
Let’s see after their fight. Floyd is a cheater. He cheated Marquez on the weight and now you’re saying he’s better than Manny. Floyd requested to have a random blood test because he was about to cheat Manny on weights again and that’s why Manny requested a fine of $10 million. Floyd knows that taking blood from Manny before the fight would make Manny psychologically weaker in the fight. AGAIN,BOXING FANS, THIS IS NOT PED OR STEROIDS, THIS IS FLOYD’S STRATEGY OR EXCUSE TO GAIN AVANTAGE IN THE RING! I WATCHED ALL FLOYD’S FIGHT BUT THESE DID NOT MATCH WITH PAQUIAO’S ALL ROUND EXCITEMENT IN THE RING. It’s good Berto back out and Floyd has no excuse not to fight Mosley.
Mayweather is great too as much as Pacquiao is great. This is why all of us are arguing who could possibly win between the two of them. This is how to sound like UNBIASED statement.
Jonathan Bail is the President of BOXING STUPID WRITERS of America that is why Manny Pacquiao is the Fighter of the year (3x) and Fighter of the decade as voted overwhelmingly by the Boxers Writers Assoc. of America.
Jr. can fight but he will not fight a fighter that has a good chance to beat him thats a business decision not a warrior decision, Jr doesnt care what people think one way or the other its ABOUT THE MONEY…..
bail, answer these quick questions.
are you on xylocaine?
why did pbf retire at his prime?
did pbf ever consider fighting cotto?
now pbf is fighting mosley. don’t you know he’s back is against the wall on this one. pbf is scaaaared to fight moseley. he got pushed to fight (see how long pbf signed the contract) moseley just to save his face.
the moseley fight is the beginning of the end for mayweather.
Jonathan Bail thinks Pac lovers are bias ??? And this Pro Mayweather article is what ? unbias ? WOW ! First off we should take our hats off to Mosley for finally getting Floyd to sign a fight contract.I would like to bring up the (Great Arturo Gatti) comment also, So Jon is saying that Arturo being the swing and fight like a warrior – “great” so what would he call Manny ? I loved to watch Gatti fight but he wasn’t comparable to Manny or even Floyd in talent.Mayweather finally signed the dotted line so we will have to give him a break for now and let all the Floyd supporters get theirs in.But Floyd will do something to f-this up – I’m sure. I really hope Floyd turns it around and becomes great once again because he will need it if he does ever actually get in the ring with Manny. You know I would like to know the thoughts of everyone on this drug testing issue that Mayweathers and GBP keeps saying they want so they can clean up dirty boxing. Floyd says we (fans) don’t understand that boxers don’t get better as they get older like Pac, it don’t work that way – but GBP has Hopkins in his mid 40s and Mosley late 30s that have man handled younger opponents.And now they (Floyd & GBP)want their own kind of blood testing with USADA Olympic style testing. Wasn’t Oscar and Floyd Olympic boxers? I wonder if they know anyone from this USADA company ? It is privately owned – sorry not govenment ran? I would probably not agree to it either.
Hubris if you want to see “Toe to Toe”, go see a Kimbo Slice or MMA. Obviously you dont know nothing about boxing. Even Ali was a defensive fighter just like mayweather and he was number 1 and hated on just as well. Its about skillz as a boxer, not a street fight. PAcquio has a no Defense. All he do is exchange and got whooped by Marquez a few time and other mexican boxers. How many Times Floyd been Knocked out? hmmmmmmmmmm
Even Pres Bush is a
Pacquiao fan. If PBF
Fight and beats Mosley,Pacquiao,and
Cotto then I will call him one of the
Greatest…
Manny Pacquiao Fighter of the Decade Period…
fixed few typoes.. it was Manny Paqroids who didnt signed the contract, not mayweather. And Lets not forget it was Floyd who was calling out Shane in the past, so who is the Ducker? Lets not forget, Roach said to Shane “We dont want to fight you, ur a too much of a good fighter” when shane went to roach twice to fight PAQ. You asian fans, who are you fooling? WHo has Manny fought thats so great?? HE got whooped by Marquez with a stolen fight, fought a drained at low weight Oscar Delyahoya, knocked out overated hatton, and a beat up cotto who has never been same after the Margarito fight. Roach just a genious cherry picking beat up fighters. Paquiao skillz has never been that great in the ring. HEs just a brawler, and i admit an exciting fighter cause he exchange blows. Mayweather is too smart in the ring and a boxing magician in the ring cause his superb defensive skillz. If you want to see a brawl, go see MMA or Kimbo Slice, This is Boxing not a street fight.
Lets not forget, it was Manny Paqroids who didnt signed the contract, not mayweather. And Lets not forget it was Floyd who was calling out Shane in the past, so who is the Ducker? Lets not forget, Roach said to Shane “We dont want to fight you, ur a too much of a good fighter” when shane went to roach twice to fight Floyd. You asian fans, who you fooling? Manny is not great, who has he fough thats important? HE got whooped by Marquez with a stolen fight, fought a drained at low weight ODH, knocked out overated hatton, and a beat up cotto who has never been same after the Cotto fight. Roach just a genious in the match making. Paquiao skillz has never been that great in the ring. HEs just a brawler, and i admit an excitigng fighter cause he exchange blows. Mayweather is too smart in the ring and a boxing genious/ magician cause his defensive skillz are superb. If you want to see a brawl, go see MMA or Kimbo, This is Boxing.
We have Mayweather Mosley and pacquiao who are all rivals at the moment. This is a throw back to Leonard, hearns and hagler. so rather than criticising, why not enjoy something that boxing has been crying out for!
THANK U @ the writer of this article. finally someone who KNOWS boxing. i been a reading a lot of floyd hate from the asians who cant seem to get manny nutz out of their mouth instead of thinking of clottey which obviously is a B-Class fighter. This is a tough tough fight for floyd cause shane is great as well. In all honesty, paq is not on the same level as Shane who he ducked or Floyd. I hope floyd can pull a win. thank u again for a nice article. about time.
WHY I BELIEVE PACQUIAO HAS BEEN KOD BEATEN THRICE BEFORE BUT STILL WON FIGHTER OF THE DECADE — how bout u ponder on this one writer.
You know it’s nice to speculate, but floyd chickened out in tha pacquiao fight. The way you can say he is better than pacman is to fight him. I know manny will win that fight if floyd fights. but if he runs around he may get away with a win.(that’s why it will be a boring fight. mayweather will run after a jab.) but in the end Manny will get him. He’ll break that shoulder until floyd can’t moved it anymore. That fight will never happen because floyd is insisting random blood testing. And he knows that’s the only way he’ll get out of the fight.
Floyd wants his legacy to be as the best Mayweather boxer. I think that’s the only thing he has done. Out the three Mayweathers’
He has zero loses.He was father was so..so.. He’s uncle he was a bad boxer too.. even he was a champ… watch you tube for some of their fights their asses got whooped.
Your article is a mere listing of Mayweather’s accomplishments. It has nothing to do with Pacquiao.
By the way, Mayweather did not “totally dominate Hatton”, in fact he got wobbled in the 2nd round and the fight was close up to the end when he caught Haron with a pot shot. In the Dela Hoya fight he got a controversial split decision. In the Marquez fight, he was more defensive, hardly stalking. He made Marquez look amateurish not by beating him up but by making him miss a lot. He avoids Pacquiao because he knows Pacqwuiao would walk right into him.
OHH YEAH AND WHEN HAS MAYWEATHER BEEN KO’D???? JAMES
Great fighters are not rated on how many fights he won or lost. He is rated on how he fights the fight. Pacquiao is great because of how he fights and the excitement he gives to the watchers. His aggressiveness, tenacity, killer instinct and willingness to trade punches make our moneys worth.
JAMES DO YOU WATCH BOXING?? WITH A COMMENT LIKE THAT! CHECK THE STATS DOGG!
MONEY MAYWEATHER IS THE BEST! HE PROVED IT!!! CANT WAIT TO HEAR WHAT U SAY WHEN THEY DO FIGHT>>AND MAYWEATHER IS THE POUND FOR POUND THE BEST
Floyd needs to sign that contract to fight Shane Mosley. That perfect record is no guarantee to be an All Time Great. regardless of the rumors that Pacquiao is on PED’s or EPO’s or HGH’s or whatever, He has already secured his Position in boxing history because he has fought exciting fights. Now, I do not want to take anything away from the fighters who bravely fought Mayweather. Do not get me wrong, i think they are all excellent boxers. But what’s the challenge for Floyd? We all know the handicaps that Pacquiao has when facing the opponents that he has faced. None of the fighters you mentioned except for maybe Jose Luis Castillo and De La Hoya are of any unique or significant accomplishment for Floyd. Like I said, HE NEEDS TO FIGHT SHANE MOSLEY!
paquiao is much better than chicken floyd period. thats why he is the fighter of the decade. case closed
people who said paquiao is better need to be examined. really? then examine the heads of boxing writers association of america for making him fighter of the year and the decade. wake up boy. you should see your doctor.
The best…only fight The Best…but…Floyd Baby chose to duck PacMan. There was $40M guaranteed him if he fought Da PacMan, instead he haggled, bargained…for a $10M fight with Mosley. If the guy’s really “unbeatable” ‘cuz he’s the “best”…why didn’t he step into the ring with Pacquiao?! Floyd’s da one who needs the money to pay back taxes to the IRS, not PacMan. Why walk away, Floyd…when u need more moolah, or face foreclosure?! He’s “sure” to beat PacMan, and yet…he chose to duck. Why, oh why, Floyd?!
Everyone knows Floyd fought the best fighters from the beginning of his career until 2007. He took a 21 month hiatus though. So now he’s a ducker. He only fought the best when he was boxing. And everyone knows Floyd would beat Manny, thats why Floyd is the favorite EVERYWHERE. Name one site or casino that had Manny favored over Floyd. No one can because there isn’t any. Manny is just the flavor of the month, right now. Manny will never fight anyone that moves around the ring. Roach claims he’s saving everyone from a boring fight and thats why Manny won’t fight any “boxer” but its pretty obvious hes protecting Manny from losing. Roach keeps Khan from heavy hitters and Manny from boxers and counter-punches. Thats why he’s a good trainer, because he knows his fighters weaknesses and won’t let them fight anyone that can exploit them.
Didn’t mosley call out pacquaio and offer to fight him at 143? Why didn’t pacquiao take that offer? I’m sure nobody would dare accuse him of ducking shane…
And yet everyone seems to think floyd is the fighter that ducks challenging opposition. Odd that.
So that means the ABA made a mistake of chosing Paquiao as the fighter of the year? Oh my Mama. Its your brain who needs a knock. What a moron, i mean imbecile
oh btw, still waiting for him to sign & fight mosley, the welter champ … IF he signs, then maybe you’re right
completely agree, but after floyd outclassed the lineal lightweight champion, he just continued to terrorize the lower weight classes as a welterweight
they voted pacman* fighter of the decade because he has bob arum for a promoter !! the truth hurts..bob has already gotten caught paying bribes in boxing ..fact !! just like when do king manipulated and controled alot of boxing years back now its bob arum !! he has hyped up pacman and got every one fooled ..bob will have a ton more cash b4 people figure it out !!
Money is good we all know that but to compare him to legendary PAC is like comparing chicken and a fierce Lion. You got to be a complete moron not to see this. Boxing writers just awarded him the fighter of the Decade and that settled the case closed.
mayweather at the moment is thinking what`s the best alibi he will say in order to avoid fighting mosley,,i bet he will pretend he is enjured before the fight,,not a olympic style drug testing like what his strategy to avoid fighting pacquiao..bless
No offense to the writer but shouldn’t this topic been in the forum section. This is your opinion and not “news”
You know what? I hate to say this but looks like Mother Nature don’t want Mayweather to ever duck Mosley again. But it’s costly… a 7.0 on the Richter Scale! I’m afraid what’s next should Floyd ducked again.
That’s funny Mayweather is better than Pacquiao. Here’s the fact: Comparison of common opponents.
Mayweather VS De la Hoya = Decision 12th rounds
Pacquiao VS De la Hoya = TKO 8th rounds
Mayweather VS Hatton = KO 10th rounds
Pacquiao VS Hatton = KO 2nd rounds
Mayweather VS Cotto = never happen because Floyd’s scared. lol
Pacquiao VS Cotto = TKO 12th rounds
All the above figths all Pacquiao’s opponents were stronger & bigger than him.
When Pacquiao fought Marquez they’re the same weight and Pacquiao only has strong left hand and won the fight and now he got both hands.
When Mayweather fought Marquez, Mayweather cheated 2 lbs for a bloated lightweight. He make Marquez look amateur because he’s 20 lbs heavier than Marquez. lol
EXTRA! FLOYD FINALLY SIGNED TO FIGHT MOSLEY. NOW BRING IT ON AND SEE WHO’LL GET TO FIGHT PACMAN.
heavy g: I couldn’t have said it better.
Hey Bail… get out of the tree.
If your coward Mayweather is really that good as you portray him to be, why the Boxing Writers Association of America voted Pacquiao “Boxer of the Decade”. These writers are Americans but they did not pick Mayweather because they believe he dont’ deserve the award. Decade is ten years -meaning since 2000 and that include during the time when Mayweather was still active, then “retired” when he found out he cannot avoid fighting top quality boxers then came back in order to get bucks to pay his IRS problem and will possibly retire again if he cannot avoid fighting Pacquiao.
The naked truth is that he has not much followings of his own because of his boxing style and the only reason many people want to see his fight is not because they are rooting for him but because they want to see him beaten- to the pulp the better!!!
Wanna bet? Try writing only about Mayweather without mentioning “Pacquiao” in the by-line and let’s find out how many “hits” you get?
yup. forget PAC-FLO in the meantime… that will come later. BUT they better both win their fights to setup this supermega ultra fight. Seems like a teaser just like JMM and Cotto. OK, in general this is good for boxing so stop dissing each other. OKaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay?
Haha…when it is put like that by the writer Mayweather doesnt seem so chicken after all! I knew of his fight career and opponents, but year for year he has stepped up to big challenges. If Floyd beats Mosley and Pacquiao , Best of his generation. ?
So what this article is saying is that the Boxing Writers Association of America, who named Pacquiao as the fighter of the decade and year, doesn’t know what they are talking about. Hmm, interesting how you say you are not biased.
floyd is good but he know’s his lemitation, he can’t fight the best caliber boxer like paquiao because he know’s he will get knockout easily. that’s why he like to stay his record of 40-0. i should say a very good boxer but small heart and has a bigmouth.
Skills only pay the bills if you don’t get knocked out. Boxing and punching are two different sciences. Many people think that being a puncher means you don’t know the intricacies of the sport. That you’re a brute with a good left hook. They think punchers can’t make adjustments in a fight. They think the boxer will control the tempo of a fight with footwork and great defensive skills.
But styles make fights. Just ask Mosley.
The style match-up between Pacquiao and Mayweather is literally yin and yang. It will be who can pull the other out of their gameplan that will win. Look for a very tactical fight, where both guys have to prove their mettle every round to win their fight.
In the meantime, let’s enjoy Mayweather and Mosley, right after Pacquiao and Clottey, and see who’s left standing atop the rubble.
…ryan
technically Mayweather is better but “better” should be defined in many ways. Please mention something nice about Floyd’s attitude.
I’ll bet anyone $100 that Mayweather is gonna find a way to not fight Mosley. I think he’ll fake an injury.
Mayweather has better raw talent and ancestry to be the ultimate boxer and has Ali like promotional and mind games ability, but he has below average courage to fight the best on level terms and thus will never reach his full potential. Pacquiao is the supreme over achiever with courage and support of a whole nation to overtake Mayweathers natural ability.
heres a question, if floyd had the same names on his record but had a couple of losses would people still say he’s never fought anybody good or would he be held in the same regard as mosley and pacquiao.
Experts and pundits have said that Pacquiao is a better fighter than Mayweather to date. His greatness is comparable to Ali and Sugar Ray etc. Now these people are not Pacquiao die hard fans or countrymen. They are North American, white, boxing experts. To me that is not biased. Take away the die hard fans of both sides and what you come up with is that Pacquiao is a better fighter, according to the neutral pundits. If that is not a good argument, what is.
Maybe Roach could give some tips to Sugar… Roach is the big difference for Pac. You don’t need to hammer if you have the key.
Who was Mayweather ducking by fighting ODLH and Hatton? Those were the two opponents thought to have the best chance against Floyd and floyd fought and beat them both. Floyd fought the bigger guy in Oscar at Oscar’s weight. He called Mosley out in 2006 and Mosley complained of a toothache and said he needed a vacation. Cotto never wanted any fight with Floyd. But its so much easier to just say Floyd’s a ducker even though his record proves the exact opposite. Or that he only fights smaller fighters, but again his record proves the opposite.
just read that on fanhouse
I’ve been a boxer for several years. I’ve been a fan for much much longer. Floyd is the better boxer. Most insider’s favor him in the fight versus Pacquiao… and all the betting tables I know do. If there is a betting table that favors Manny… I would love to know about it so I can empty the piggy bank to put some money down. People who really know boxing understand why Floyd is the better fighter. The general public and casual fan do not have enough knowledge of The Sweet Science to understand.
here we go again, opinions on who’s better, PBF OR Pacman, who is the true P4P champ. We won’t know till they actually fight. For all those who think KFC is better than Pac just remember there have been a lot of opinions and predictions before Manny fought bigger guys like DLH, Hatton and Cotto, many thought Manny would have no chance at all being the smaller guy but you know what happened, Manny came out winning in devastating fashion that surprised even the boxing experts. I have been a doubting Manny’s ability as well before but now I would rather watch and enjoy the Pacman fights rather than making predictions or going against him.
I’m not sure what you brought to the table here, Jon. You highlighted some of Floyd’s biggest fights. I still don’t see anything as stunning as when Pacquiao showed up from the shadows of boxing to knock out Barrera, one of the best fighters in the world at that time.
I don’t see anything spectacular, like how Manny knocked Hatton out cold in his own weight class just two fights after Mayweather failed to put away the terribly undisciplined Brit.
I don’t see Floyd fighting a current, solid figher like Manny did when he fought and destroyed Cotto (who just so happened to beat Mosley). Don’t give me the damaged goods garbage either Floyd fans, that’s silly talk.
Your Floyd timeline is nice and all, but where is the insight as to why he’s better than Pacquiao? Because he fought and won 40 fights? Guess what, Manny fought and won 40 fights, too. In fact, he’s fought and won 50 fights.
And the reason Floyd hasn’t taken any damage over his years is just as much because of his gloves-up defense as it is that he hasn’t taken any huge risks either.
…ryan
Yup, just checked…he did sign for the fight now…woo hoo, am excited for Sugar.
Lem Satterfield
Lem Satterfield is FanHouse’s Boxing Writer and Editor.
Floyd Mayweather has signed his bout agreement to fight Shane Mosley, who already had inked his name on the dotted line on Friday, Mosley’s attorney, Judd Burstein, told FanHouse.
Burstein said that he learned of the development concerning Mayweather (pictured right) from Mosley’s promoter, Golden Boy Promotions’ CEO Richard Shaefer, which should set in motion the promotional and marketing of their bout to take place on May 1 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
“Richard Schaefer just called me and told me that [Mayweather's adviser] Al Haymon called him, and it’s [the bout agreement] is being faxed,” said Burstein, with whom Mosley signed his part of the deal on Friday in Las Vegas.
“I’m ecstatic. Shane and I have been together for seven years, and I love him as a client, and he’s going to show the world how great that he is,” said Burstein. “A lot of credit goes to Richard Schaefer. We work together beautifully. And Al Haymon has proven that my assessment of him as a real, straight shooter and a good guy are correct. He came through.”
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it will be interesting to see what excuses people will have when floyd beats mosley !!! then he will come after pacman …he will train harder than ever to make sure he makes a statement in the mayweather pac. fight..i will never ever say pac doesnt have talent .. its that hes not up to the skill level of floyd mayweather !! yes pacman is very entertaining lots of exciting knockouts i watch all of his fights too ..floyd is boring to watch alot of the time but you cant deny his skills..manny p. has i think 3 loses already to an old morales and other unknowns…and every one knows juan m.m. beat him twice !! we all seen that on tv didnt we ..boxing is 10 or 12 rounds and jmm definately out boxed manny in both fights ..if you go by the last 1 or 2 years manny is p4p the best BUT floyd will shut up the haters after he embarreses manny…floyd could fight manny 10 times and beat him 10 times … period
Ok… here is why Pacquiao is better – 7 weight divisions – Morales x3, Barrera x2, Marquez x2, Hatton, Cotto, De La Hoya, etc, etc
Case closed. Your only deluding yourself.
Don’t get me wrong, I think Floyd is good and can beat Pacquiao but if we are talking records then your talking complete rubbish.
yup.. he signed alright…
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2010/02/floyd-mayweather-jr-shane-mosley-boxing.html
Lighter weight wins were great but Castillo won the first fight convincingly, so really Floyd isn’t undefeated. He only beat Oscar by one round and it was more a case of Oscar tiring then floyd dominating. Gatti (RIP) puts of a good show but how do you think he’d look against Pacman, Hatton, Marquzes or any of the top fighters? At the higher weights Pacmans been way more impressive. If he finally signs the contract for mosley I’ll be impressed. That will be the best fight of his career. I’ll defintly give him props even if he loses it but puts up a great performence. I just want to see him fight a top, true welterweight.
Already 32 years of age, he started young, and still only 40 fights? Running away from opponents, like what’s happening now. That is Flo’s life, zero loss is ultimate.
who is this guy trying to convince? ya in the past he was awesome. but since the judah fight he really did not fight noone if his calliber. take a look he challenges lower class weight opps to fite where he is comfy lately! ya these guys could of beaten him but we r talking about lucky shots here. ya he faught delahoya but in the words of mayweather “he has already been beaten. but since he has challenged fighters and not taking challlengers. he is not that great cuz its not proven right now. and he wont prove it. manny on the other hand along with mosley fight the top fifghters lately even though mosley has a couple of losses atleast they were from equal or better talent
Mayweather just signed the contract coz GBP pressured him coz he has no more alibi not to fight with Mosley. Mayweather couldn’t concentrate coz his too insecure with Pacquiao’s attention. Pacquio is the Best Fighter of the Year, Best Fighter of the Decade.
I think your article says why Floyd is a great fighter but I don’t think you really explained at all why he is better than Pacquiao. I believe he is the best boxer in the sport and will beat Mosley and Pacquiao, but I don’t think your article did the title justice.
Floyd, mojo’s gone…lucky some boxing fans still believes you. All those fraudin’ is catching up. Back on the wall, on the spotlight, no choice but to fight…and you will fall.
@John – Floyd signed
boxing fans would only believe Mayweather will fight Mosley if both of them in the ring on May 1st.And yes, Mayweather is better than Pacquiao in ducking much competitive opponent. Most of Pacquiao’s fight his the underdog. But he tried his best to win. We hope Mayweather fight Mosley, if he doesn’t more people wouldn’t believe him anymore that his the greatest fighter as he always say.
Floyd Floyd Floyd… promising tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow…still no signature. Tomorrow will always be tomorrow. You are just slowly showing yourself again as a Fraud.
Mayweather a better fighter? Maybe? BUT IT MEANS NOTHING IF YOU ARE A COWARD. Mosley and Pac…they have hearts. Win or lose they will fight.
Better fighter? Maybe.
Better ducker? I think so.
Bigger coward? Definately.
Biggest mouth? W/O a doubt.
Biggest fraud? Looks like it. He can’t even sign a simple contract.
Nobody cares.
Mayweather cannot beat Mosley OR Pacquiao. That’s it. no article or nothing.
Plus, he won’t sign any fight of either two.
fhuckin puhssy
I am an avid boxing fan and think PBF is a great fighter, but he does lack an excellent quality that all great fighters have and that is the courage to keep fighting the best. I agree that Corrales and Castillo wins are impressive, but his fight against De La Hoya wasn’t very impressive and he opted to retire instead of take a rematch with De La Hoya who I think would’ve actually taken their second bout. De La Hoya was frustrated, but not hurt during their fight. A win against JMM, who had to come up 17lbs to fight PBF who didn’t even make the agreed weight. Hatton he fought at 147 where Hatton has spent most of his career at 140lbs? This article is very biased as far as your opinion goes. I could easily write an article about Pacquiao’s advantages, but I like both fighters. What sways me towards Pacquiao as a fighter is the fact that he keeps fighting. I’m willing to bet that PBF isn’t going to fight Mosley and he’s trying to wait until the winner of Pac vs Clottey is determined. If I were Pac I would get through Clottey, and if he wins, challenge Mosley b/c chances are Mosley is still going to be waiting.
You said you’ve come across alot of biased comments. Thats exactly what you have done. Check out and see who Pacquiao has defeated over the last few years and most of them are bigger heavier fighters. Pacquiao has been a massive underdog on so many times, ive heard all the bulls**t before all his fights and so many writers have said they would quit if Manny wins and guess what, he wins and they are still writing this crap.