Victor Ortiz v Nate Campbell: A step too far a step too soon?
by Daniel Ciminera: Since losing to Marcos Maidana back in June last year, Victor Ortiz has had some serious questions asked of him as a fighter. Especially surrounding his heart and commitment as he quit from the fight with Maidana and has since been criticised for perhaps not taking the loss seriously enough. Personally, I’d tend to agree with Ortiz’s sentiment that (quote) “I’m not gonna go out on my back, I’m not gonna lay down for nobody you know, I’d rather just, hey, you know, I’m gonna stop while I’m ahead and that way I can speak well when I’m older you know.” and later said “I don’t think I deserve to be gettin’ beat up like this”. Not from a fighter’s perspective but, from the angle that he is a young man with a long and prosperous career ahead of him. He does not need to be getting drawn into wars of he magnitude that could potentially have escalated to at this stage in his career.
After Diaz, Ortiz moved onto Hector Alatorre, this past Thursday night at the Club Nokia arena in Los Angeles, a natural lightweight, whom on the face of it looked like he was forced to put on a tonne of weight in order to fight Ortiz at welterweight. My opinion is that Alatorre was brought in at this weight with zero conditioning so that Ortiz could get some rounds under his belt and practice how to tire an opponent rather than trying to knock out a fresh one. A skill which had he been able to employ against Maidana, would probably have heeded a better result. It was not an impressive win, ok he got the late stoppage but, you can’t help but feel he is, or should be, further along in his career than this performance would lead you to believe. Perhaps if the Diaz and Alatorre fights had been switched around, it may have made more sense in terms of progress.
Against both though, Ortiz stuck to a clear game plan and got the job done. Something he would not have done if, like some say, he was now shot from his beating. However, there were some serious mistakes made by Ortiz in both of these fights. His defence is very slack, especially once he lands clean and tries to throw some fast, hard leather. Maidana exploited this, and future opponents may well follow suit. Also, for a boxer touted as being “fast, accurate and powerful”, Ortiz only landed 37% of his shots against Diaz, and only landed 4 scoring shots in the opening round, which to me is hardly accurate, it is distinctly average.
With Ortiz at such a pivotal moment in his career right now, it could be said that he he is taking too biga risk in taking his next step up too soon (they will be criticised no matter what they do won’t they?!), for on May the 15th, he is scheduled to fight seasoned veteran Nate Campbell (33/5/1). While no spring chicken, Campbell is more than capable of bringing an intense, competitive, melting pot of a fight to Ortiz, who is likely to have to go the 12 scheduled rounds this time out as Campbell is a durable customer who has done the rounds and has the experience to know how to take Ortiz into deeper waters away from his game plan. Campbell, as he shown against opponents like Juan Diaz, is more than happy to stand in front of an aggressive fighter and trade with him. If Ortiz doesn’t tighten up that slack defence of his, Campbell will show him what happens and in a far slicker, more clinical way than Maidana did.
Lets not forget that while Ortiz has awe inspiring power in both hands, Amir Khan stopped him in 2003 as an amateur and he can be hit cleanly and often. If Nate can take the big shots from Ortiz, he certainly has the quality and power to end the fight early. However, if Ortiz puts his trust in his corner and sticks to the game plan, does exactly what he’s told and keeps his defence nice and tight, he can definitely add a 6th defeat to Campbell’s record. Having said that, my hunch is that if Ortiz does not manage some early brilliance and take the knockout, Campbell will take him further and further out to sea as the fight goes on and take the decision by a comfortable margin.
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I have to be honest i’m actually excited for this bout.
But I do think Victor needs some improvement in his defence.
I saw the fight between him and Diaz, and I have to say he had some trouble that night! But I do believe he’ll do well in this fight.
this guy should have never took up boxing
youre not bob, most people think khan needs to fight prescott again to exorcise some demons.
but, at the moment, khan has bigger fish to fry, he is fighting named opponent malignaggi who, lets not forget, cotto couldn’t get rid of. in order to break his new american market. then he has mandatory challenger maidana to fight. if he manages to get past him too, then khan could consider prescott, but if he does, people are going to say he is ducking the top guys to fight “nobody” prescott.
I can understand why everybody is calling for a Ortiz-Maidana rematch. That fight was very competitive. But why am I the only one suggesting that Khan has some unfinished business with Breidis Prescott?
Victor a good fighter,Cut the guy some slack,It’s a matter of time before he’s champion.
If Ortiz cannot beat Nate Campbell he needs to get out the game. Campbell is past it and got mauled by Bradley. Ortiz is a good fighter but I can see him being a nearly man.I just don’t think he will ever be tough enough to step it up when things aint going his way.
Ortiz has definitely learned from his fight with Maidana and a rematch is an absolute. I’ve been a fight fan for 40 years and Victor has skills, enough where he has a solid shot at dominating at 140. The only fighter out there right now that I’d bet on against Ortiz at 140 is Pacquiao, but I think Victor can beat 7 of Ring’s top 10 at 140 and is a coin flip for the other 3 (except Manny). I know many of you feel differently and I respect that, but will tell.
I think it’s the right fight for Ortiz to take. I mean he has to step up sooner or later if he wants to get back to where he was. If he wins, it will be a major boost to his confidence and he will certainly be back in the game.
Campbell vs the Baby Bull showed what a durable fighter Campbell is. it’s likely to be close range just like the Maidana one but I think Campbell is a less powerful puncher than Maidana.
it is a rhetoric question. i say no, he should be at this level.
but, on the basis that he last fought hector alatorre and wasnt all that impressive, i say perhaps the jump from alatorre to campbell is one too big.
I know this sounds silly but if victor does not want to have any side-effects why does he not just his style of fighting. Like out-boxer style.:(
Victor Ortiz takes this fight, I mean Nate really is not that good. He is like allen green, thinks way too highly of himself. Victor is a lil overrated, but he is solid, he will be a champ, he just wont have a long reign. anyway, he outpoints nate…
campbell in 2
Lets see if Nate can kep his hands up.
ortiz win by ud
I am always intrigued by reporters who are willing to give unwarranted opinions about fighter. When a reporter never has trained, sparred or hit in the mouth by an 8oz glove.
He does not know what the game plan was, He does not know what the trainers were asking of him, and yet he is willing to give an opinion as if he was an expert in the area. He refers to a lost that happen years ago and forgets to address the issues that both fighter had to make transitions into the pro and pro fighting is different then the amateurs what a poor comparative analysis, If you are going to offer an analysis please use some logical analysis and a compilation of all the facts to arrive at reasonable conclusion not an elementary display of partial biased one sided facts be a true reporter or journalist
Victor is too young to be having doubts like that. It was all good when you was winning Vic..you had your set back, now dust yourself off, improve and handle ya business!!
Lets hope Ortiz gets back on his horse and k.o’s Campbell I would love to see him fight Khan then a rematch with Maidana
Victor Will take some punishment from Campbell but will stop the old veteran just like Timothy Bradley did. i dont care what anybody says Nate quit that night!