Valero is the fighter to beat Pacquiao
February 7th, 2010
By Esteban Garduno: WBC lightweight champion Edwin Valero (27-0, 27 KO’s) showed me that he’s the real deal in dispatching the tough Antonio DeMarco (23-1-1, 17 KO’s) after 9 rounds Arena Monterrey in Monterrey, Mexico. Valero reduced DeMarco, a big puncher in his own right, into a timid lamb as he clubbed him into quitting on his stool after the 9th round had ended. In that beating that Valero showed that he may be the next big boxing star in the sport and is ready for bigger hurdles like WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao.
Valero’s power looks as good as Pacquiao’s, but I think what makes Valero the better fighter is that he’s very clever on defense. Valero showed good head movement and an ability to land without getting hit by moving slightly to avoid shots. Pacquiao has to get in and get out to avoid incoming fire. Valero doesn’t need to do that.
Valero has the ability to lean away from shots and pick off blows with his gloves. For a Valero-Pacquiao fight to take place, Manny would have to move down in weight for the fight to happen at 140. It wouldn’t be fair for Valero to have to eat his way to 147 for the fight to happen. I’m sure he can do that, but it would be a better situation for him if Pacquiao moves down to 140 for the fight to happen.
If Valero vs. Pacquiao does happen, it will likely take place in 2011 because of Pacquiao’s schedule of fights. Valero would have to stay busy in the meantime by fighting some notable fighters to help make a name for himself in the public. There’s talk of Valero moving up to the light welterweight division because of his problems making the lightweight division. That’s fine. Valero could stay busy fighting some of the top fighters at light welterweight like Timothy Bradley while he waits on Pacquiao to get freed up for a fight.
Valero, 5’7 ½” would have an inch height advantage over Pacquiao, and as long as there wasn’t some nasty catch weight involved in fighting the Filipino fighter, I can see Valero coming into the fight as strong as he looked last Saturday night against Pacquiao. If this fight takes place next year, Pacquiao will be a year older and more beaten down after hard fights against Clottey and Mayweather and/or Shane Mosley.
That’s even better for Valero. Pacquiao’s punch resistance and reflexes may be reduced by the time that he meets up with Valero, and it could be a huge factor in the fight. It doesn’t matter, though. Even if Pacquiao is still fighting the same as he is now, I can see Valero’s pressure being too much for Pacquiao to deal with.
Valero is a nonstop punching machine and unless his opponent runs from him all night long, I think he’s going to mow down anyone they put in front of him. Pacquiao will be just another victim when his promotional team eventually put him in with Valero. I just hope that Pacquiao isn’t too badly depleted by then from his wars with Clottey and Mayweather, because I don’t want there to be any excuses afterwards as to why Pacquiao lost to Valero.
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i dont think so manny is immortal no one can beat him
Esteban Garduno is deluded.
don’t get your panties all twisted up over this valero guy yet. he needs to beat a real someone first. plus his hand speed and footwork aren’t up to pac’s level. he’s got good power and a good work-rate, but until he can prove he can move up against good opponents, then i’m not convinced
you don’t know what you’re talking about, valero is just a lice in pacquiao’s head, if pacquiao and valero have a fight i’m PRETTY SURE valero will knock down at 1st round same as what happen to Hatton.
what a waste of time! PACQUIAO will K.O. VALERO cold by just looking at his eyes, VALERO will then get stunned and will say this to himself “how I wish I never entered boxing” LOL…
My goodness, is this article real? Pacman will kill Valero but Val has to be fed first to other vultures like Marquez, Cotto, and other first class fighters. Cmon get real Esteban.
at the moment we can say nobody can beat Pac. although Floymaywheater still is afraid of Pac. In fact maywheather avoided Fac He gave many reason to meet Pac.
hahaha the author of this article is the most stupid one that ive ever seen! valero is better than pacquiao??? valero will not even win against barrera or marquez. valero havent fought a world class fighter! if he fight pacman? its a massacre. he is too slow! cotto will even kill valero in first round!
and why would pac will go down to 140 just ot fight valero. valero should go up to 147 if he want pacman! STUPIDO
Kool aid anyone….. on televised fight against a B level opponent and people dare to put his name against the Pacman.
Article like this take away from Valero’s victory. Let his be in the spotlight and the best 135 lbs before everone starts comparing him the current P4P.
Congrat to Valero!
These anti-Pac wankers are heaps funny not to mention pretty dumb as well! Everytime there’s an up and coming fighter they all say that this will be the fighter to kick Manny’s ass – in fact they’ll nuthug anybody who’ll look like they can trash talk themselves into sounding like a credible threat. FYI, Arum already told Valero he’ll have to fight a few ‘quality’ light welterweights at 140 b4 he gets in the ring with MP. This is for Valero’s safety and to ensure a good match up. Bob doesn’t want a JMM and KFC style match, the public don’t either.
hey you,
before Valero fights Pacquiao, he has to beat all including Mayweather! there’s a line, pal……….
He just wrote this to get readers- it’s called smart journalism.. don’t overreact.
I think Valero has awesome power and seems to have an unbelievable will to win but i just feel that pacquaio would cleverly outgun him and Mayweather would pick him apart and use Valero’s own power against him by slipping shots and countering!
Why would Pac lower himself to Mayweather status by picking a fight with a guy 2 weight classes lower. Valero needs to get in line and make it worth Pac’s time. If he can beat Bradley and draw up a wanting public then I say, “hell yeah!” That would be a great fight. But Valero will need to be marketable (like all the top fighter do)and be able to fight in the US, LOL!!!
hmmm… based on his fight against antonio demarco. well, valero improved on some points… footwork and defense but he needs to improve it more because he is still open! but putting him against pac… oh no! its a suicide! even if the fight takes place at 140… pac is a superhuman now! he imprived everything in his arsenal… footwork, handspeed, defense and especially, power… pac absorbed the hardest punchers they had offered! miguel, ricky, jmm, and on march, joshua… valero is still need to prove that he can be a great potential to the throne! valero is still open! pac wants that and he will eat those lead straights and right hooks! fight jmm, ricky and other guys at jr welter… then maybe we can discuss abuout it next time…
MAN THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF HALFWITS WHO POST IN ON THIS SITE.THERE ARE SEVERAL NAMES FOR BOXING.I.E THE SWEET SCIENCE BUT MOST DEAR TO THE FIGHTERS HEART AND WALLET IS THE AGE OLD TERM PRIZE FIGHTING GET THAT DUMMIES PRIZE FIGHTING.ITS NOT HONOR FIGHTING ITS FIGHTING FOR THE MOST FRICKEN MONEY YOU CAN POSSIABLY EARN.FIGHTERS JOCKEY THEMSELVES INTO BIG DOLLAR FIGHTS BY WINNING AND BEING CONNECTED.UNTIL VELARO IS KNOWN WIDLY ON THE STREET YOU CANT MAKE THE KIND OF MONEY THAT EQUATES THE RISK MANNY AND THE OTHERS WILL FIGHT HIM WHEN IT MAKES GOOD BUSINESS SENSE.THATS WHAT GETS ME ABOUT FLOYD YOU WOULD THINK HE WOULD HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO HAVE MADE SURE THE FIGHT WITH MANNY CAME OFF.
The author of this article must be Valero himself or his dad. You’re suggesting he dictates the conditions of the fight with Pacquiao when he probably can’t even dictate conditions of a fight with a much lesser fighter than P4P king. You suggest Manny should go down to his weight (I don’t hink Manny will have troubles doing so) to accommodate him? And what ctach weight are you talking about? You better read up before you start writing esteban. I dont even think this guy has a chance with Hatton and all the more Cotto. And you’re fantasizing a fight with Pacquiao? We’ll it’s free to dream, so dream on esteban.
i agree with money mayweather, valero has 1 of the hardest jaws in todays boxing world. His flawless punching rate and constant presure would probably force pacroid to quit on the stool; just like dermaco did. No chance roid would take a fight against him.
I WATCHED THE FIGHT AND I DONT THINK VALERO HAS THE SPEED OR WORKRATE TO BEAT PACQUIAO.
i think valero must first improved his defence. learned how to raised his arms and hide his chin. my concern to valero please learned how to dodged before fighting the elite boxers. valero is 80%-90% offence and 10%-20% defence.
to pacquiao, i think his style “hit and run” is very wise. because he knows how to take care of his body. very clever indeed.
i think valero must first improved his defence. learned how to raised his arms and hide his chin. my concern to valero please learned how to dodged before fighting the elite boxers. valero is 80%-90% offence and 10%-20% defence.
to pacquiao, i think his style “hit and run” is very wise. because he knows how to take care of his body. very clever indeed.
He hasnt even beat a top fighter and you’re on about putting him in with the p4p?
What in gods name is happening to boxing.
This site is so, so bad. You wonder if it’s just one person with multiple cases of Bi-polar.
he must beat money mayweather first. fight the pawn before the king.
This writer is a joke valero can beat pacquiao ur funny.. manny will just toy with this amateur like wat he did to hatton they have the same style but valero wont last 1st round and if ur thinking his got the power to trouble the KING ur a joke and ur forgeting wat he did to Cotto a number 1 or 2 most powerful pucher n the welterweight!! CASE CLOSE THIS WRITER IS OFFICIALLY RETARDED!
No matter wat valero wanted to get notice n he has!! The guy has lie 6 articles already!!
pac wont fight him until valero is coming off a loss or hes like 35 years old or has been beat up and put away wet !!
we havnt seen valero troubled yet, i think manny will keep landing on him an valero will get frustrated an keep swinging huge punches an manny will box him over.. i couldn think of a better fight . valero did show good skill advoiding punches in his last fight , i think the difference is mannys training with pro coach Roach an footwork for manny.
Fight Juan Manuel Marquez First Valero.
esteban????? well u know i remember manuela perez saying hatred on pacman, i think this guy is manuel perez and not esteban…… c,mon guys this writer is manuela she just rename herself ha ha ha ha…….. and where is mr. santiago. did he has a news name? losers… LOL
Esteban Garduno; This is the seccond article I’ve read of yours. I thought I’d give you the chance to redeem yourself from the previous….”article.” I will NEVER make that mistake again! Your last effort was so nonsensical and bias, that I assumed you must have been in a drunken rage whilst writing; Following some personal problems. Unfortunately [for us boxing fans], this appears to not be the case. YOU have backed up hate with even more hate. All this hate overrides any logic or commonsense you MAY posess. For whatever happened to you, to make you this sad, pathetic and angry little man…. I am sorry. Fortunately your arguments and writing are SO weak, that you would ONLY influence folk such as yourself…..You know…. SIMPLE!
it could be an interesting bout.. valero ko puncher and manny the legend. iwanna watch this if it happen. i want to see who will win by knockout.
I bet Valero is gonna get ko’d by Amir khan if they ever fight
I state Manny would destroy Valero and I’m trashy Manny??? Wow, that’s crazy. I guess saying Manny would beat someone is saying Manny sucks. I never knew that. Regardless, I still think he would destroy Valero.
How’s this for a dream match up:
Esteban versus Lahr
and
Santiago versus Perez
the two winners will fight each other and the winner of that fight will become PBF’s boytoy.
to wanted:
wtf dude?! du think mayw can take those punches from valero?! how much more from the pacman?! valero can defeat mayw, it’s for sure! but to say, valero beat pac aint posible…but to say, valero beat mayw…that’s for sure!! lmao.
base on valero’s record yes we can see it that its too amazing…but to look him the way he fights?!! its too damn boring.. esteban!! your talking about headmovements? the defense? just take a look the vids and compare it to pacman.. its too too far away men!!! your writes up are just base on the records not on skills men.. valero as i can see he just wait for the time he can pull his powerpunch..without right footwork and angle… and HE’s slow!!!
Those boxing writer and analsyt like esteban who said that valero can beat pacman.are you sure that you are boxing analsyt?Valero is like Hatton if he face quality opponent and knock him out in early rounds im sure he will retire same as hatton did.Pacman is proven and tested boxer,while Valero beat taxi driver boxer.
Esteban strikes again. or should I say, Perez strikes again, or should I say Santiago strikes again. You are just one and the same. So you finally found a guy who can beat Pacman? Demarco is not a boxing hall of famer. The one who can beat Pacman hasn’t been born yet.
Valero should fight ortiz.marquez or zab judah then fight mayweather and last pacquiao…Hey esteban! what about money floyd and valero what do you think?
is this writer drunk? is de marco greater than all the fighters that pacquiao fought to come up with this piece proclaiming how Valero will defeat pacquiao with ease? the last time I check at age 28 pacquiao was banging bodies with future boxing hall of famer if not with boxers whose credentials better than de marco.
i would suggest don’t just write to get volume hits to make money but instead write with credibility, money will always come.
EDWIN BOLERO WILL BEAT MANNY PACQUIAO!!! STUPID WRITTER…HEY MAN WAKE UP!
Perhaps Valero should come up in weight as Manny did if he want to take on better fighters.
It’s OK to defeat all comers in 1 weight division, but manny has defeated all comers in 7 weight divisions so far.
If valero wants Manny (the best), he should start climbing the ladder and then join the queue.
valero beats Pac…….NOT!!! lol…
before valero tries to fight manny, he should first try to fix his US VISA problem.
r u kidding li’l boy?hehehehe
better to be serious some kid might believe you!huh
FOR YOU MR.WRITER: PAC is not DEMARCO! YOUR PREDICTION IS SOOOOO BASELESS! I dont know if i will ever read your article again but im very disappointed with your opinion as a credible writer and a boxing analyst.HAHAHAHA,stupid writer!THINK! it doesnt hurt when u think!
If Valero is to face Pacman, he must prove himself first. I really believe he should face Yuriorkis Gamboa first. That is the true test. It seems that Gamboa is more impressive than Valero, even though his record is not. I believe they are both undefeated. Let’s see how they look against each other. Now, Pacman looked really good against not-so-decent fighters but the funny thing is that he’s looked just as good against the best fighters. Pretty much, Pacman has made mostly all of his competition look the same, with the exception of Marquez.
Really?! Valero to beat Pacquiao?! LMAO! This guy will be eaten alive by Manny in case they do fight. He is just a hard hitter that’s it. He is a sluggish no defense fighter. I admit his record is impressive, but you have to realize that all those fighters that he fought are nobody. My advice to him is practice more before he aspires for something big like the reigning P4P champ. He might end up retiring too early in his career.
@Ken D.
I understand where your comming from big bro, and i respect your opinion. Floyd really is not fighting for the fans. hehehe! he’s a very talkative person that bringing up the Random blood test to Manny. I think its not needed since there’s a commision handling that matter. im excited! i want to train right away! yey!
I have watched Valero’s fights. He is exciting but before he even try to fight Manny Pacquiao he needs to earn it. He needs to fight either Marques, Hatton, or Cotto before he will be considered.
He may have an unbeaten record but at this time he doesn’t have a chance against Pacquaio.
Bring it on!!! That fight should be very interesting to watch. It should happen at 145 – 147 though. Last I heard, Valero is having a tough time in making the weight at 135. 147 should be no problem for him. (How hard is it to GAIN weight?) Granted he’ll lose some speed(somewhat) but that’s what a trainer for.
Okay Perez.I’ll bite.
First off,No.Valero is not the man to beat Pacquiao.You look at Pacquiao as the same fighter who had a tough time against Marquez because you can’t possibly get past what happened in that fight.Pacquiao can box,brawl,whatever.Valero did look great against demarco but Demarco isn’t very good,despite him being number one contender.He didn’t open up offensively enough to make this fight like Pac/JMM which it could have been.His timing was non existent past round 2.
Manny is capable of moving his head and weaving around punches to get out of the way.De La Hoya tried to back him up against the ropes and he moved his way around and spun DLH.He spun around Cotto.He isn’t a simple bounce in and out type fighter.
When it comes to the weight issue,since when has Manny weighed in at 147?He weighed in at 142 against De La Hoya and 144 against Cotto.A catch weight couldn’t hurt Valero unless he’s hurting that bad to make lightweight.No?Didn’t think so.
You sit there and say that someone’s punch resistance is gone or they’ve had too many wars and that’s why Manny beat them
Valero should concentrate on fighting big mouth Mayweather. Valero has a very bad habit of fighting with his mouth open.
If he fights Pacman Iam sure he will end up with a broken jaw in the first round…
Valero is a hell of a good fighter but like all upcoming great fighters you have to fight high caliber fighters to get to the top and hes hasn’t, so this this article is really stupid Demarco isnt even close to Pacquiao’s level so Valero doesn’t deserve that fight yet but if he can beat Timothy Bradley or Amir Khan then who knows. But still Pacman is to skilled and has a master trainer behind him so I dought that would ever happen
I don’t see how Valero would have a chance againt Manny or against Bradley. His punches are too loopy. A slick counter-puncher like Bradley would expose that. I think Manny would rock Valero early on. Valero’s opponents haven’t been able to trade punches with him, but I think Manny has more speed and at least an equal amount of power if not more.
Regardless this should be pointless as Roach as said Manny is staying at 147. And there are only three opponents that fans want to see Manny fight at WW: Mayweather, Mosley, and Williams. I could see a fight with Valero happening though as I don’t see Pacquiao suddenly being man enough to fight any of the top three welterweights. Manny refused to fight Mosley less than a year ago, because (in Freddie Roach’s words) Mosley was “too good” for Manny. Maybe if Floyd knocks out Shane then we might see a Pacquiao-Mosley fight, but other than that Manny will continue to go after second tier competition.
Pacquiao will find it very hard to beat Valero what with Hugo Chaves punching him too.
First off,No.Valero is not the man to beat Pacquiao.You look at Pacquiao as the same fighter who had a tough time against Marquez because you can’t possibly get past what happened in that fight.Pacquiao can box,brawl,whatever.Valero did look great against demarco but Demarco isn’t very good,despite him being number one contender.He didn’t open up offensively enough to make this fight like Pac/JMM which it could have been.His timing was non existent past round 2.
Manny is capable of moving his head and weaving around punches to get out of the way.De La Hoya tried to back him up against the ropes and he moved his way around and spun DLH.He spun around Cotto.He isn’t a simple bounce in and out type fighter.
When it comes to the weight issue,since when has Manny weighed in at 147?He weighed in at 142 against De La Hoya and 144 against Cotto.A catch weight couldn’t hurt Valero unless he’s hurting that bad to make lightweight.No?Didn’t think so.
You sit there and say that someone’s punch resistance is gone or they’ve had too many wars and that’s why Manny beat them.And now you don’t want excuses if Valero were to beat Manny?Stop writing Manuel.Be a man.Have some dignity and stop writing like you said you would.
When Manny started fighting bigger fighters, he was criticized for meeting them halfway. Now that a smaller guy may fight Manny it is okay for Manny to go down to meet them. I think that you should apply the same logic when a smaller guy wants to fight Pacquaio. Fight him at his current weight division.
It seemed to me that Manny gets criticize no matter what.
@kid boxing
We are not expert here to like you but experience that we saw, from promotion, weigh in, leading through the fight and after the fight, people like Mayweathers handle themselves inappropriately – acting like bastards! THAT WE CAN’T ACCEPT!
For me, if you lose a fight and you handle yourself appropriately, I’d rather respect you – watch you in PPV more than a fighter who won and acting like a bum!
I saw several of Valero’s fights and I’m not impressed (not the last one though). The opponents he fought were not even top caliber fighters. I think also remember an article here wherein it says there that Valero doesn’t have much of a defense, he is more of an offensive guy. He comes in fast but that is also his weakness. Manny totally dominates fighters who comes directly to him. I saw an interview of Roach last year and he said that they have no problems fighting Valero, and he added “2 rounds”, that’s the time it takes for Manny to dispose of Valero.
i like valero but the guy isn’t even the best in his division. he hasn’t yet beat or fought an elite fighter and people want him to fight pacquiao? his power didn’t impress me. he hit demarco flush many times and didn’t even rock him. he finally fought someone with a decent chin and valero had to just grind it out. good for valero to finding another way to win but he isn’t ready for even marquez.
I love to see anybody who will say yes to a fight not a fighter than demand a stupid things that make the fight not going to happen!
Hi everyone! i just want to share some of my boxing opinions, I dont know if it really matters since im just 17 years old and I know a lot of you guys are more knowlegeable than me specially in boxing. I really love boxing and im planning to enroll in a boxing gym soon. Im tired of reading articles that is degrading a boxers skills, Floyd and Manny are my favorite fighters and im really sad the fight was cancelled. Manny is exciting and Floyd is amazing, i know that we have our own favorites but i dont understand why we keep on bashing this guys. Manny on steroids? no proof! Floyd is a cherry picker? we dont know since he’s up to the money, a businessman indeed.
Before the fight, we hype the boxers, he will KO him, he will Ko that! but after the fight seems no one is contented.. he is washed up! passed his prime! overrated! This are boxers! always make it a point that they’re prepared before a fight. We just love to hate. I just cant believe that even the writers which suppose to bring unbiased news and point if views, they’re the one starting the fire! irresponsible! im dreaming to be a great boxer.. soon i will. ^_^
I agree with Jpot. At this moment I do not think Valero is ready to fight Pacquiao. He is too open and does not have the foot and hand speed that can match Pacquiao.
Valero isn’t in Pacquiao’s league. His hands at the wait style would be exposed badly and DeMarco hurt him on a few occassions and that’s lightweight, nonexistent power. Pacquiao is WAY too quick and strong for Edwin.
Pacquiao-Valero=Pacquiao-Hatton, with Eddie being a worse version of Ricky.
cmon guys this guy aint special hes no better than maidana, although that will be an interesting matchup… the winner to fight khan maybe???
PACMAN WILL DESTROY VALERO.EASILY…
Is this guy serious?
Let Valero fight Pacquiao’s fallen opponents and see how he does against Marquez, Hatton, Cotto, and maybe Clottey.. before you even mention Pacmans name….
Valero has to “earn” to fight against Pacquiao..
Amir Khan should be a good bout for him…
manuela … you faggot… valero’s skills are no way near pacquio’s skills. he lunges forward just like hatto. And, we all know how that fight ended…dirt bag get a life!
Is this the same Valero that can’t fight in all the states because his MRI is not up to par. I think the first step is get him certified. Then he can start fighting the top level guys. He’s great to watch but to compare him to anyone is pre mature. He has to run through a division. He is just getting started. Pump your breaks!!!
dream on!
Hey Gardo how the hell you match a green horne to Pac….not even a contender at all..Amir Khan will rip his ass including you….Bring it on you and your Mexicanos, Pacman is ready….
Mayweather will beat Pacquiao though… if Pacquiao will ever man up!!
I like Valero… but I’m sorry… he has not fought any top level opponent yet. Although I would like to see him fight Manny just because it would be a fun fight to watch… he would get hurt big time. I don’t see this guy beating Juan Manuel Marquez… if he beats a guy like that it will for sure change my mind on him… so far he hasn’t fought anyone.
Also after watching the fight last night it makes me wonder if he cuts easy? He had a cut on his cheek in the 1st. His eyelid was cut later in the fight… and that elbow in the 2nd split his skin like a hot knife through butter. Maybe I’m wrong… and I hope I am… I like Valero… but it sure looks like he cuts easily.
So what your saying (Esterban aka Manuel) is that
Valero should Fight an Older/beatdown pacquiao that needs to Get to 140 to fight?
come on man, thats just plain old DUMB
Too early to fight Manny, Valero’s fights are all amateurs. He has to fight De la Hoya first or Ricky Hatton or maybe JMM or maybe Barrera. Those guys he knock out are destined to be knockout. Stop writing suggestions that is far to get attention.
let him fight marquez first if he beats JMM then maybe..just maybe his words gonna make some sense. but i gotta say valero does have ko power on his fist however he wont stand a chance against the roach-overhauled machine(pacquiao) at this point of his career.
blah..blahh.. blahhh. blahhh. esteban, i mean manuela. no latinos will beat pacquiao!!!
Manny would have to move down to 140? and yet Mayweather made Marquez move up 2 weight classes, and then he came in over the weight limit? C’mon!
i like this guy, esteban. he is very much like his alter ego manuel perez. he makes himself look stupid just to bash pacquiao.
i dont think he can just pop right up to 147 and take on manny. i think he should probably fight a guy like amir khan at 140 or JMM but gradually move up, 12 pounds all at once. comeonman.
why would Pac needs to move down? If Valero wants to challange Pac, he should move up like what Pac did.
no chance pacman would destroy him.
christ your living in a fantasy world.
If i may quote “Valero, 5’7 ½” would have an inch height advantage over Pacquiao, and as long as there wasn’t some nasty catch weight involved in fighting the Filipino fighter, I can see Valero coming into the fight as strong as he looked last Saturday night against Pacquiao. If this fight takes place next year, Pacquiao will be a year older and more beaten down after hard fights against Clottey and Mayweather and/or Shane Mosley.” isn’t it that you are the one who’s suggesting that Paquiao go down to 140? isn’t that a catch weight by your standards? dream on mr. writer ride on the pacquiao roller coaster.
i dont think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah right?? YOu can dream on it pal!!!!!!!!!
hmmmm thats strange?!!! as far as i know, this site houses the most number of excuse makers, only that they gave excuses for Paquiao victims and not the other way around.