Valero has to prove himself at 140 to get a fight against Pacquiao – News
February 8th, 2010
By Dan Ambrose: Top Rank promoter Bob Arum wants World Boxing Council lightweight champion Edwin Valero (27-0, 27 KO’s) to get some fights under his belt at light welterweight (140 pounds) before he can even consider matching him up with his cash cow, WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao according to the latest boxing news. Arum is looking to have the 28-year-old Valero move up in weight five pounds and take on someone like WBO light welterweight champion Timothy Bradley in his next fight.
Valero is interested in fighting Pacquiao, saying after last Saturday night’s stoppage win over Antonio DeMarco in Mexico, “That’s the fight [Pacquiao-Valero] that all true fans want to see. It would be explosive with lots of blood.” You can say that again. Valero was cut badly on the forehead against DeMarco after getting hit with a hard elbow early in the 2nd round.
The elbow opened up a huge gash on Valero’s forehead, causing blood to drip down into Valero’s face for the remainder of the fight. Had the fight taken place in the United States rather than Mexico, there’s a good chance that the bout would have been stopped early in the fight and ruled either a no contest of a technical decision.
Valero looked impressive in making his first appearance on American television. Valero controlled the entire fight using power shots and a constant flow of punches to keep DeMarco on the defense and totally bottled up offensively. DeMarco rarely attempted to throw any punches and just looked confused and out of his league. For boxing fans who had seen DeMarco’s other fights in which he had looked impressive in dominating his opponents, it was startling to see how badly he was dominated by Valero. It was never even remotely close.
It’s a gamble for Valero to move up in weight. He hasn’t proven yet that he’s the best lightweight in the division by fighting other top lightweights like Juan Manuel Marquez, Ali Funeka, Joan Guzman, Michael Katsidis, Kevin Mitchell, Paulus Moses, Joel Casamayor, Juan Diaz and Anthony Peterson. For Valero to move up without fighting any of those guys to see if he has what it takes, Valero could end up failing badly if they put him in with a fighter that he’s not ready for like Bradley.
There’s a huge difference between Bradley and DeMarco. I hope Arum realizes that before moving Valero too quickly. The upside is if Valero can beat a couple good light welterweights, he’ll greatly speed up the time needed for a fight against Pacquiao. Valero doesn’t have much time, and has to move more quickly than he’d like to get a shot against Pacquiao before the Filipino star retires from boxing.
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you dumbasses, edwin usually weights 150 30 days out, of course he can fight at 140
Most of you clowns do not have a clue, Valero has been calling Pacquiao since 2006 , when they both fought as featherweights, its not something new, Pacquaio told Valero to build his stats, its hard to argue with 27-0 27ko’s, Valero is capable of fighting at the highest level remember when Oscar fired Valero as a training partner because he “hit to hard” stop hating on the man
Valero said he wants Bradley. The only way that happens is if Bradley fights in Venezuala and Arum picks and pays the judges. When Bradley refuses, Arum will claim Bradley is scared. Same old story, Arum makes an offer that only a retard would accept than calls the other guy a coward.
After Valero demolished De Marco, I could imagine Mayweather Sr said to himself, ‘Valero must be on PEDs, he needs to be tested olympic style testing if he wants to fight aqgainst Jr inorder to level the playing field.’
I fairly believe that it is still necessary for fighters to prove themselves for them to land a good fight. or we might as well pair a lineal division champion to a 4 rounder type of a fighter?
yeah even darchinyan wants to challenge pacquiao to a fight. and even hopkins wants to land a fight with him. now, valero is calling him out for quite a while now. is pacquiao obliged to fight him? or for that matter whould pacquiao oblige himself to fight all of those boxers who wants a piece of him?
Juan Diaz was also calling out Pacquiao after every fight, and look what happened to him. He took that step up too early and hasn’t been the same since.
You don’t have to be a demi-god to face Pacman, you just have to have very few weaknesses (if any).
What would also help was if Valero was a prooven 140 pounder, something he hasn’t managed to acheive at lightweight yet. Then there would be more call for this fight between Valero and Pacman, not that this seems particularly realistic for the future. Fingers crossed Shane Mosley comes through, against gaylord Anyweather. Mosley vs Pacquiao now that’s a real fight!
Says who?
Valero has been calling out Paccy since 2006 and has continued to hammer all in his path in 8 world tiitle fights.
He’s more than ready. If you think you have to be some demi-god before enteringthe ring with Manny, you probably also want to buy Paccy piss so you can bathe in it….
Valero needs to fight Hatton, Juan D, Nate C, JMM and Maidana are good top fighter that willing and ready to fight Varlero.
Valero hits much harder than Margarito???
Using a fight between two super featherweights as an example, to proove that Valero hits harder than someone who campaigns at 3 weight divisions higher (some 17 pounds), is just farcical. Valero hits hard for the weight, but going up in weight and class changes things. The fighters that he would have to face, are a lot bigger, more powerful and are already acclimatized to your average welterweight (like Margarito, Mosley, Pacquaio and Cotto). Does anybody honestly beleive, that Valero should be even mentioned in the same breath as those fighters, let-alone as a viable opponent.
With the state the sport of boxing is in right now nobody has to prove anything to anybody to get what they want.
If the moneys right anything can be made to happen. Not really fair and not really sporting but thats boxing for you.
He seems to be chasing Pac. But if I were him, I’d rather fight some rated boxers first in his division then try 140. At 140, it would even be risky, not for him physically but for his career. Just like many posters here, I believe he has not really tested himself against much tougher opponents at his class. Again an unbeaten record does not guarantee one is unbeatable.
Many people here have no clue what Valero is capable of. But people in Southern California are aware of what Valero is capable of doing. He has had many gyms even beating Delahoya to a pulp. Just look at you tube Valero vs Santa cruz and they will state how Valero hits much harder than Margarito
valero vs marquez that will tell if valero has anything
@ Hey Jwill..It just show what a zimmian you are and a stupid one too..Man can you spell right before making stupid comment you better start eating banana because a chimpanzee got more brain than you..DRONGGO
Let me take it a step further and correct myself. Who did Pac even beat at 135? Diaz? Come on gimmie a break. Props to him for jumping from Jr. Lightweight (130) to Welterweight (I’m sorry, catch-welter weight) while skipping every decent fighter in the lightweight and Jr. Welterweight division. But Valero has to fight Bradley or someone else first? Please. Pac hasn’t even defended the Jr. Welterweight lineal title he took from Hatton. He should be stripped if he hasn’t given it up already. He’s not even a 140lb fighter. Roach already said he (Pacman) is staying at Welter. So why are we even speaking about Pac in this division. Jr. Lightweight and Catch welterweight is where Manny put his work in. No where else in my book. The man accomplished enough without the Pac riders adding fictional accomplishments to his resume don’t you think?
@apd and jasz
Not at all. I’m simply saying Valero doesn’t have to prove himself at 140. Pacmans accomplishments @ 135 are by no means questioned. On the other hand Valero has to beat a few more at 135 b4 he moves up to 140. And when he does, I guess all he has to do is beat Ricky Fatton to be considered the best at that weight right? That’s the only fighter Pac beat at that weight right or wrong? So let him follow what Pac did. All I’m saying is, don’t require one fighter to do what another hasn’t at a specific weight. Read my comment again. 140 is the proving ground the article and myself are speaking of. Plenty of young good fighters at that weight. Not lightweight or welterweight…JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT. Get it right.
@apd,
Well said. You hit the point. If Pacquiao destroys Valero, haters will say he fought a bloated lightweight (just like what FMJ did to JMM). Besides, most of the fighters Valero fought were not even top caliber fighters. On the other hand Pacquiao has fought the likes of Barrera, Morales, Marquez, ODLH, Hatton, Cotto; all were considered the best at their respective divisions or bigger and stronger than Pacquiao. Its just funny to think that everyone now wants to fight Pacquiao. If memory serves me right, even Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr. once called Pacquiao out. Go figure lol.
@ JWILL
What if Valero and Pacquiao actually met at WW? and Manny destroyed Valero? what would be your excuse? he isn’t ready yet for Paquiao? or Pacquiao fought a bloated LW? now this is the most likely scenario. no matter what Pacquiao has achieved. there are some people who cant give him the credit to what he has done. or you are considering Valero’s achievements better that Manny’s?
you are so right i dont know why they even call pac woman the best p4p he only fought 3 ppl thats like me or you goin in to the ring and fighting 3 ppl and be call the best p4p fighter pacman is a joke pinoy fagg power plus i heard in the philippiness there the best to make a men to a woman or to buy steriodz
I have an even better question? Why does Valero have to prove himself @ 140? If I’m not mistaken, Pacman skipped the entire Jr. Welter division and fought ODH @ Welter. He then dropped down to face a fighter doomed to be knocked out due to his lack of defense and, in between fights, the lack of discipline and respect for the sport to stay in decent shape in an overratted Ricky Fatton. He then went right back up to Welter where he is staying. In my humble opinion, Manny hasn’t proven himself by beating the best in the 140lb division either. But I don’t hear nobody saying Pac needs to prove himself at that weight. This is one-sided Pacman bullcrap. Let Valero beat the best at lightweight, (which is hardly anyone not old or overrated) then fight who he wants at 140. He does not have to beat the best at 140 in Pac didn’t. And please, please, please don’t say Fatton was the best. He was lucky to stay high up in the ranks as long as he did.
Pacquiao vs Clotey
PBF vs Mosley
and it should be Valero vs JMM/Funeka/Diaz
lets asume that the main would be the winner
so….
Pacquiao vs PBF
Valero vs bradley
and so in the end of Pacquiao’s career he would be face Valero
valero will beat all mentioned and maybe even MP
If the $$$ is there why should he have to prove he’s worthy? He has a better profile that Clottey after all.
why cant he just stay at lightweight? I wiah valero and marquez would fight to unify the lightweight title
Valero vs Bradley would be huge for the 140 division.. Holt vs Campbelle.. Ortiz vs Maidana 2 … JMM vs Khan… M.Alvarado vs winner of Urango/Alexander and last but not least Judah vs Hatton LETS DO IT!!!!!
Valero beats J.Diaz, Guzman, Katsidis, Soto, Casamayor, R.Guerrero… JMMarquez or Funeka would be good fights… Peterson and Mitchell havent proved them selfs either atleast Valero is a 2 division champ… If he cant get JMM then he should move up to 140 for more $$ and recognition.
valero too slow for pac man
i dont like valero to fight pacman, he has to pass several fighter first. i dont think valeros previous opponent were really good.
Its just like Arum to get overexcited. There are lots of potential match-ups for Valero. Hes just telling Mayw. theres another option.
Jaja Clark Kent is right maybe he is takin steroid according to some people(gayweather)
but valero vs Bradley is at least a good decent fight for valero to showcase his potential so we will see what happens he just needs to show some more future
Bradley will also go down if he feels the power.Valero can take shots put will return it twice as hard and i dont think Bradley will take that power shot KO roud 10 for Valero
Be careful not to go up so quickly or some jealous American might assume Valero is taking roids.
why is anyone even writing articles about this, there are plenty of fights PAC needs to finish, and there definitely fights Valero needs to START before having this opp