Mayweather has always been a fraud, he tried to engage manny to fight him as early as march knowing that he just came from a tough fight against cotto, thingking manny would refuse because its so soon, but manny accepted the challenge, now with floyds tail under his ass tried another one by accusing him this non sense PED issue which was obviously successful.

Now let me tell you this, have berto withdrawn earlier manny would surely fight mosley in no time, unlike floyd who took almost a decade to sign their contract.

I understand. Again, great article.

Good article by the way.
おめでとうございます。

I get all of your points. However, playing the contrarian. If you wanted a way out of the fight without it looking like you were trying to get out, you would need to look for a way besides not negotiating cooperatively. Some might argue the easy agreements may have been a diversionary tactic, a ruse to mask the real deal-breaker: the blood testing.

Personally, I don’t think that is exactly true. What I mean is that, I think the blood testing had more to do with putting Manny on the defensive as a way to make up for the fact that Floyd knew he would never get the money he wanted.

I remember when the 60/40 split was proposed to Top Rank, Bob Arum had a classic line: “When I hear something like that from Floyd, it’s music to my ears, because I can just hang up the phone and move on to another fighter.”

So much of the negotiating of a fight is gamesmanship and mind games. You are trying to get the best deal for your fighter as a promoter, which will then spill off and benefit you and everyone else surrounding that fighter.

Mayweather has admitted he wants to retire and become a promoter, so it isn’t that much of a stretch to accuse him of playing head games to gain whatever edge he can. I DO believe that Team Mayweather put the random blood clause in the contract as much for safety and cleaning up the sport as they did to intimidate Manny, who they knew beforehand wasn’t that fond of intravenous needles.

You know?

…ryan

All that Manny isn’t a true welterweight talk is pretty much out the door. He came in and blew away one of the top guys at welterweight(Cotto). It isn’t like he tried to move up steadily through the welterweight ranks. So to me all that talk no longer matters. He is a welterweight now and should be fighting anyone in that division. Without the damn catchweights.

So, back to the drug proposal. Now we assume he new Pac so well that he would make this proposal and Pac, with the ball in his court, would refuse? How is that possible, I do not care how many books Mayweather has read of the historic Italian Philosopher, if any, he would not have been able to predict that Pac would say no. Does not add up.

“Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn’t want any blood testing but had agreed to take three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week; one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight; and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would have been subject to the same testing procedures.”

Wouldn’t you catch any enhancers straight after a fight? And if he did use PEDs, wouldnt he get caught by agreeing to a test right after the match? Can you see that Pacquiao will not submit to someone, as you said, a wildly thrown accuser. Floyd only initiated a random drug testing because he knew that Pacman wouldn’t agree to it.

Very simple, a test straight after the fight would catch the bad guy, why isn’t that good enough for Floyd?

May the best boxers win!

…ryan

I appreciate your comments. Glad you lime the discourse. I also have a hard time buying into the “Manny is Guilty,” but in fairness, let me make a quick point about Mannys agreement to blood right after the fight.

A PED like EPO, which basically is blood doping, where you increase your red blood cell count to I crease stamina, can be flushe from your system in 2 days. Human growth horomones, which tell your pituitary gland to produce horomones to make your body get bigger, are almost impossible to detect after 24 hours. In both cases, a boxer if they had a heads up, could beat any test they wanted.

That said, currently the best ways to detect BOTH EPO and HGH is through…. You guessed it… urinysis. And we know that Manny agreed to unlimited random urine samples up until fight night a d after the fight itself.

The Manny has something to hide argument just isn’t holding enough water for ne, sime as that.

…ryan

Yes, it’s true, the article will become lenghty and will turn people away. But one thing is certain for me: The willingness of Manny to have his blood tested after the fight, it means Manny is not afraid of the test. That says a lot to me. If Manny is depend on PEDs or any other illegal substances to gain his strength to fight Mayweather or any boxer in the ring, whatever illegal substances that he took will certainly show up in the test. With this accusations and media coverage, whoever the person or group of people that actually do the test on Manny’s blood, will not just test it once, twice or three time, they will probably test the blood ten times to make sure no stone is unturned. It will be silly for Manny to take anything illegal before the fight. He probably will not eat any spicy food before the fight.
If I was a lawyer for Manny, I would certainly raise this point in a court.
This is a major point for the argument and I think you should at least mention it in your article and have a say about it.
I am not an expert in boxing, actually I am not an expert in anything, I am just a casual boxing fan. Know nothing about boxing and never hold boxing glove in my hand. I just say what I think is logical.
Thank you for the nice article and thank you for your reply.

Ivan