Shouldn’t Mayweather be applauded for wanting testing for PEDs?

You people that thinks that Manny Pacquiao is using prohibited substances to reach this far, then why is it that Bobby Pacquiao
is not as impressive.I’m sure BROTHERS can share secrets.

i think the bottomline for all of these comments is mayweather to clean up his mess. he started this anyway without a single proof of evidence.(reason to clean up the sport) unbelievable.i urge pbf to fight pacman and take blood tests immediately after the fight.i give credit to pbf but i believe more in pacman. its not an issue on blood tests but more on respect. this guy pbf has no ethics and respect to other boxers, to the media, the promoters, drug agencies, the fans but most of all his color. y. train hard cause you are the next for pacman. pac is my man and my idol you know what ? not you, its the hands of stone roberto duran.

FYI: to all of you who are on this post

I had to have some blood work done today at 12pm( IM in Iraq so thats 4 am your time). I went to work out for 2 hours. Cardio, Chest, and arms. I also have a Basketball game that i am going to play in tonight at 930pm my time..I don’t even feel where they put the needle in my arm to take the blood. LOL..AND I DON’T FEEL WEAK..

ST,IF FLOYD WANTED TO FIGHT ME AFTER I PLAYED THIS BASKETBALL GAME, I WOULD LACE UP THE GLOVES ONE LAST TIME AND GO AT IT WITH HIM. FOR 1 MILLION

@fighter
At least we are now in one plane. Not very long ago, I said I thought maybe Floyd just needed a little more time so he could confidently face Pac. This might hold true for Pac as well. And so after their respective fight, there’s a good possibility that they may renegotiate…. and hopefully fight. After all this is the only thing fans like you and I are looking for. Peace.

This is the problem, the moment someone call Pac “average”, that’s where the problem begin. The Mayweather clan also thought Manny is an average fighter, and then trash-talked like he is “one-dimensional fighter” and a “midget”. And then when this average, one-dimensional midget started destroying boxers that Floyd won’t even dare think of fighting, it’s too much of a mind-boggling thing for them. And so they conclude, Manny MUST be on juice.

@ Tony

i have to agree w you also…pac was average for ever , then all of a sudden he walks over these guys ?? somethings up here !!! you gain skills along the way, not ko power…

@Hilo. Exuse my typo. I meant, the same regiment was agreed upon by Floyd and Shane for their upcoming fight.

well I am with Mayweather on this… look at pacman…a very average fighter who seemingly now is invincible but who doesnt look any different in any fight no matter what weight… hmmmm that simply does NOT happen…

If Manny and Floyd will be subject to the same protocol, and Manny wont even try, because he’s a coward, than I guess Floyd is better w/o even fighting him. Of course, we knew that, Freddy knew it, Manny knew it, and all you pacfans know it. Floyd is simply a better, more technically advanced fighter than Manny. He’s faster, he’s more accurate, he’s more disciplined, he has better footwork, he’s a smarter boxer, and he’s not afwaid of a itty bitty wittle needle. Say what you want about Floyd outside of the ring, (Many, including myself would probably agree that he’s a jerk) but there’s no denying that he’s a better fighter, and example, inside the ring.In the face of all the hype that surrounds him in the media, he lives a very disciplined life. He does not party, he does not even drink, he maintains great condition, even when not fighting.

There’s no use talking too much about it. they WILL fight, unless Manny’s flaws allow him to lose to the undermatched Clottey, and when they do, I WOULD BET MY PAYCHECK, that some Floyd haters will start in to whinning about how Manny was not a real welterweight, and he was too small for Floyd and wah, wah, wah. You guys are hilarious. But it’s ok, speculate all you want. The day will come, when the superior boxer will put any doubts out of the equation.

So what happened to the drug testing protocol of Flo/Mosley? Where’s the transparency? any fight cancellation? any penalty? any psycho test for Floyd?

“when he now agreed to fight a bigger, stronger Shane mosley, who has fought tougher competition” The 40 year old guy who lost to Cotto that Manny knocked out? The guy who has’nt fought for over a year? the guy who’s on roids? … and last but not least…the guy Mayweather was forced to fight…

RETARDS! NOBODY’S TRYING TO CHANGE THE RULES! IT’S CALLED NEGOTIATIONS! Manny was affraid to fight w/o his medicine, so he declined. End of story!

That’s like me saying that Manny’s trying to change the rules by implimenting a rediculous penalty for coming in overweight. There’s no such rule, but people put a provision in contract negotiations, which are agreed to by the signature of each fighter. Why would he be affraid of Manny, when he now agreed to fight a bigger, stronger Shane mosley, who has fought tougher competition, and has better technical, and fundamental skill than Manny. Manny is a flawed fighter. You guys need to get away from him genitalia, you’re crowding them.

@boxing wtf, that’s what I have been saying all along. I don’t know why more is not made of this. Actually, yes I do know. Because with a non invasive, test, Floyd will suddenly lose all interest in demanding drug tests for Pac. Because the real reason he demanded it had more to do with his right, due to his greatness, to dictate to Pac and to make Pac sit up and beg for the privilege of fighting king floyd.

Crottey, I might, if I beleived it. I don’t beleive everything that Floyd says, just like I don’t beleive everything that Manny says. You’re either really gullible, or in love with Manny. Ever think he could be saying that because he’s vein, and proud, like most boxers are? Do you think he’s THAT perfect that he’s above that. I mean the man is into everything, acting, politics, singing (all of which he’s not good at), do you think he has a passion for these things, or a passion for spotlights, and adhoration of masses of people? He could’nt take it if his image were tarnished. That’s why I don’t like him. He came out after the Morales fight, and did nothing with grace. He blamed his loss on something, rather than admitt that Erik simply outboxed him, or that his team simply outdid Manny’s team. That’s low.Do you think Morales had enough power to ask the commission to make Manny submitt to ANOTHER blood test? I beleive in conspiracies, but come on, is it really that serious. You Pacfans WANT to beleive extravagant nonsense, just to uphold your guy. I like certain fighters, but When/if they f-ck up, I have no problem calling them on it. I’m not so in love with any fighter, that if he behaves in a suspect manner, that I will give him a pass. I just wish the media were the same way.

@fighter, Morales didn’t asked Manny to be blood tested. Here’s what happened:

Pacquiao discussed about the blood test done before the fight. Puno (Filipino newsman) asked why does the Nevada State Commission insists to have a blood test done. Pacquiao said that he will not be permitted to fight Morales if he will not pass the blood test. Pacquiao explained that one month before the fight, Nevada State Commission rushed him to have a medical exam. He said that they needed his blood for medical requirements. He went back to training and before the weigh-in, he didn’t eat and didn’t even drink because he was in the exact weight. Then two days before the fight, NSAC called him to have a blood test again. Pacquiao said that he already underwent a blood test but NSAC said that the records were lost according to the doctor. Coach Freddie Roach with his manager Shelly were wondering why the NSAC did not have his medical records. According to Pacquiao, he have spoken to a certain doctor and said that it’s impossible for NSAC to lose his record because it is a well-established institution. Pacquiao felt something wrong and he thought that it was a tactic against him. He said that he felt dizzy 30 minutes after the blood was taken from him. He said that his nape was very painful.

Now, if you were Manny and you’re about to fight the most important fight of your career, would you not learn anything from this?

Hi Jay (smooth), now I understand why you love floyd. You two are basically the same. I should have known earlier.

To all Pac Fans:

Quit using quotes from Joshua Clottey. I am not going after his character because i don’t know the guy like that. But i can go after his boxing carreer. He has lost three fights, to Baldimoir, Cotto and Margarito. He has beaten anyone worth talking about except Diego Corrales.

Now after saying that i want to show you guys how blind you are to the facts;

1) Joshua is a Top Rank boxer who is used as a Hype Manny..He was used to hype Cotto and now he is used to hype Manny up. If Manny beats him should it be a great defeat for Manny?

2) He has too much respect for a fighter who is going in the ring to try to brutally punish and beat him. I have been watching boxing and in this sport you don’t praise a guy who you are about to fight unless you are going with the flow. there is nothing wrong with liking a fighter for what he has done but when you give someone too much respect you are putting yourself in a pysch disadvantage. I competed at the college level in Track n Field and on the day of a track meet, I didn’t even like my own teammates. I respect them at practice and i congradulated them after the meets but I could care less about them if they were in my heat. Thats just the competition of the sports and you always want to have the advantage over your opponents in whatever way you want.

3) What city and state is the Mecca of Boxing? No, its not Arlington, Texas. All boxing fans know that Las Vegas Nevada is the home of all Mega Fights. To prove this point go to Boxrec and check out Mannys bouts starting witht Marquez 1 in 2004 to present. that a total of 14 fight of which 10 were fought in Las Vegas. So my question to all you Pac Fans is why would you fight in Arlington, Texas?

4) What is one of the few states that doesn’t make is mandatory that boxers are tested for steroids or PEDs? Yes, if you choose Texas you are right.
After all this if he is or if he aint using PEDs mess why wouldn’t Texas atleast make it mandatory that the boxers do a urine test to test for Steroids. they aint doing squat. That is what so messed up about all of this.

So how can you say this guy is clean and give him all this praise when all he is doing is making boxing look bad by finding ways to get out of a random blood test.

@Free one

And you are actually going to believe what Joshua Clottey is saying? After all he is in the biggest fight of his life so he is happy. He is also one of Bob Arum Puppets. LOL..that is funny he done want blood test because he trust and respect Manny. So, if you can’t see that this is a rigged fight I don’t know what you have been reading. This guy is in this fight to add more hype to Manny. And besides Clottey not asking for these test, the State of Texas Boxing Commission doesn’t mandate drug testing anyways. Just look at all the facts and how they are being laid out to you.

@JesusJones

You can call Floyd chicken all you want for asking for a random blood test. I just think your boi Manny is the bigger chicken because if how can you be the World best boxer, or Boxer of the Decade or “P4P” champion but when it comes to random blood test that would give the sport the validity and credit it deserved, he refuse this test. So, you must really examine this entire situation and say who gave boxing the blackeye. If you refuse a test i think you put that suspicion on yourself, especially in professional Sports.

To all Mayweather fans who idolizes him for taking a tough stance against juicing since it gives the juiced-up fighter an undue advantage. How about coming in over the weight limit? That could give a boxer an even more undue advantage which can even lead to serious injury to the lighter boxer! In his fight against Marquez, Mayweather intentionally came in overweight to gain an undue advantage. So is Mayweather thinking of the welfare of baoxing when he insisted on random blood testing or is he just thinking of just psyching out his opponent? You be the judge. But for me, Mayweather has no credibility since his standards are so inconsistent.

KGenius, is that the best comment you can come up with? So you find it so hard to believe that, just because he is a fighter by profession, he cannot have an aversion to having his blood taken bya hypdermic needle? You are equating getting punched as being no different than having a hypodermic needle in your vein? You know you really should give some thought to what you write before you make a post so you do not embarrass yourself with your ignorance. Try to make somewhat of an intelligent comment next time. Either make a contribution to the subject or stay off the site. Next you will be telling me about all of Manny’s tattoos. YOu think that is also the same as getting your blood taken? So, according to you, the REAL reason that he has agreed to unrestricted urine testing but not unrestricted blood testing is because he is taking an illegal substance that can only be detected by blood and not urine and that, will not be detected by the blood test immediately after the fight. Makes sense to me. Why don’t you try to sell that argument?

Why is it ok for Baseball players to be tested but not boxers? One guy is swinging a bat at a ball and the other is tryna knock a guys head off. Boxing should be leading the charge against PED’s. It should be a Pacman thing…it’s should be the logical thing to do. Boxing is called the most brutal sport right? Anybody disagreeing with testing is just mad because the focus is on Manny!!!

@realbox, the fact that both fighters are undergoing the same blood test does not mean it is equal. If it bothers one fighter and doesn’t bother the other, than it is not the same thing even though it is the same thing. Floyd and Manny are very different which it comes to how they feel about having their blood taken and Floyd is exploiting that difference.

Hatton fought Floyd 7 pounds above his natural weight and it took Floyd more than half the fight to put him down. Manny fought Hatton at his optmal weight, a weight at which he had never lost before and knocked him down mulitiple times over two rounds and, with the final knockdown he almost took his head off. Still has to go down as one of the greatest one punch knockouts in boxing. How many of those does Floyd have? IF I recall correctly the ODH fight, Floyd barely ekked out a split decision in that win. One judge thought DLH won that fight. Floyd retired to protect his 0 and turned down tens of millions because he was so protective of that undefeatted record. (sound familar?) Manny destroyed DLH in a one sided mismatch. Yeah, yeah, I know I know. HE was dehydrated from losing all that weight, etc. etc. but he is a professional and he should know how to train for a fight.
Floyd does not like to fight opponents he is not 100% sure he can beat. Pac is an unknown to him. Fastest fighter he ever fought. Punches come from weird angles. Hardest puncher he ever fought. Too many unknowns. That is why we, he fans were willing to give them almost $200M to see it. But if Floyd lost and lost badly, his ego would not know how to handle it. Can you honestly see him saying he lost to the better man if Pac knocks him out? No he will ask him for a DNA test to make sure he is human.

@realbox The moment you step inside the ring being a boxer your life at risk.You have to embrace that along with your boxing license.When i heard of a boxer whining about even playing field and life at risk should retire or quit boxing. Boxing is all about “risking”.

Ryan, i agree with being adults, sorry about that, but your metaphore was still very very wrong. Having the answers to a test like you say, definitely gives you an advantage, having your blood tested randomly doesn’t give you even the slightest of an edge in absolutely any way, i believe BOTH fighters are tested not just one of them.

Regarding the cherrypicking i meant that Julio Cesar Chavez tried to fight the best out there and was not picking old retired people, shot fighters, and fighters coming out of losses all the time, i mean, pac fans keep naming Oscar de la Hoya as a great achievement, but a year before when Floyd beat him nobody made such a big deal about it, Hatton was undefeated also when he fought floyd…

Miles’s comparison to basketball only proves how ignorant of the sport some of pac’s fans are!, a contract is set up and if you want to throw a cookie eating contest after the fight (just to compare idiocy of comments) in the contract tou can, as long as it isn’t something illegal you can ask for whatever you want specially if you are unsure of a fighter’s integrity. Also having this kind of money on the line and putting your life at risk in this sport, you can never be too careful.

Ryan,

Bleh, you’re right. I forgot the most important point. That’s the biggest reason he is what he is. Good point!

@wowzabean

Ditto, however…

“… thanks to his country, the media, and the boxing community Manny has risen up to be a mainstream fighter and is reigning P4P Champ”

- I would watch his highlight reel again on Youtube, and add to the front of your list… “Thanks to his exciting fighting style…” and then we’d be in FULL agreement.

- What Manny lack’s in boxing skills like Floyd, he makes up for with reckless abandonment and a willingness to trade shots regardless of his opponent.

…ryan

Fighter,

I agree man, I call it like I see it too. We’re just on opposite sides of the coin. I never once said Floyd is afraid of Manny. As a matter of fact if they got in the ring, I’d put Floyd as a favorite to beat him. I’m not saying Manny is the best thing since sliced bread, but thanks to his country, the media, and the boxing community Manny has risen up to be a mainstream fighter and is reigning P4P Champ. I just want to see the fight happen. My opinions are based solely on past events, nothing more.

You’re right, both parties should have compromised more, but by then egos and miscommunication shut the fight down. Had Pacquiao been in the states during negotiations, there’s little doubt in my mind the fight would have pushed through.

lil giant,

I have nothing negative to say about the guy. I’m not saying he’s not taking PEDs. As a matter of fact in all my posts on this website, I NEVER, said Manny isn’t taking PEDs. What I am saying, however, is that there’s no substantial proof to think he’s not clean. One man said he’s taking it, and now a single comment snowballed into this massive conspiracy. I put myself in Manny shoes and I can’t help but defend him.

Based on an unbiased opinion, PBF sounds like a jealous brat. He’s no longer the popular kid in school, so now he has to put a smear campaign together against his ace. I find it despicable to be honest. PBF seems like he’s really insecure, or a megalomaniac. PBF’s “playing field” ideal is mere rhetoric. He never had intention of “cleaning up the sport,” otherwise he would have done so w/Hatton, or JMM. I never said he’s afraid to fight Manny, but he’s definitely concerned about his power. If not, there’d be no reason to think he’s taking anything.

If FLoyd really wanted to clean up the sport, he would focus on the things that really trouble the sport and make it look bad. Like bad judges and too many sanctioning bodies. That’s what really screwing up boxing. No one’s been screwed by juicing in boxing. NO ONE!!

is there no such thing as an exeptional athelete any more he will do the drug testing that the boxing commitee want him to do the same one he has taken 4 times in the past and passed with flying colours why shud he change just cos pretty boy wants it he has done no wrong i still say the fight will happen it has to and it will be a historical event fingers crossed eh

@haku313, Manny already agreed to RANDOM urine testing. My belief is that the only reason he did not agree to random and unlimited blood testing is because blood testing, unlike urine testing, is invasive and it makes him uncomfortable and distracts him from his training. Some of these articles talk about replacing blood testing with non invasive tests like more advanced urine testing or saliva or hair. YOu either believe Manny doesn’t want random because he is juicing and needs to know in advance when the tests are coming so he can prepare for them to not be caught, OR you belive that his reason for refusing them is it will screw with his training or otherwise affect his performance in the fight. Since he already agreed to random and unlimited urine testing, and since some of these articles say that recent technological advances in urine testing now can detect the same illegal substances that previously only blood could detect, that is a pretty big risk Manny woudl be taking giving his urine with no conditions or restrictions. Considering how his life would change if he were caught, he would be taking a HUGE risk betting his life that the new urine tests won’t be able to detect what he is secretly taking. Some seems too much of a stretch. The other explanation just seems a lot more plausible. Don’t forget Manny is a guy who absolutely HAS TO stay in the same hotel room before his fights when he fights in Vegas. Now is THAT rational? No of course not. It is silly superstition. We don’t know what goes on inside his head. But it just seems to me that if he is giving a blood test after the fight, and unlimited urine, I really don’t think he would refuse unlimited hair testing or unlimited saliva or any other test that was non invasive.

why hasnt floyd asked all of his opponents to go through this testing why only manny because hes clever thats why people now start to question manny for the way he has gone through the weights and carry his speed and power with him he is already bein judged b4 anything has happened cant we just sit back and enjoy the ride while it lasts roy jones and suger shane tested positive for banned substances there punishment was laughable but most of the world wants to see shane defeat floyd wots the differance

These stupid examples with the Lebron and Kobe are just dumb!!!! They make no sense. How are you gonna compare a combat sport of boxing to Basketball. A game where you shoot a ball into a basketball. How do you come up with that? I’ve seen that used several times and noone has shut it down yet wtf? I can see if they used MMA as a comparison but basketball come on man be real. Kobe and Lebron aren’t swingin on each other now are they? So please get out of here with that weak excuse!! And Chris real “boxing fans” aren’t mad at Mayweather for wanting to clean up the sport. It’s “Pacquiao fans” that are angry. Because they know if Pac can’t use his peds he will be exposed and noone will talk about their little islands anymore. Filipinos wanna have a fighter from the Philippines go down as one of the all time greats. And if he fights real fighters like Mayweather, Mosley, Williams, Bradley, and others then he wont be considered an all time great anymore. So yeah they are angry. As far as Arum and Roach well if Pacquiao loses then the money machine known as Pacquiao will be no more. So everyone who is upset has a reason. It’s not a good reason but it’s a reason.

I just saw two guys on Fridaynight fights. This thing could be in the running for fight of the year. It was like watching Margarito/Cotto all over again. One guy was a come forwarder, and hard as nails. The other, was no sftie, but seemingly unable to hurt the other guy. He was winning the fight hands down. He was also being stalked by the other guy, constantly, and he was exausted by the 6th, but he kept plugging. A really entertaining fight. As are many of Manny’s fights. But did either of them deserve to be named fighter of the decade, or p4p best…I think not. I feel the same way about Manny. Overrated.

i think that drug testing should be done but the point is that the only reason mayweather came up with this is because he doesn’t want to fight pacquiao. He thought everything was going his way, and would be able to cherry pick another fight (they tried to call out malinaggi etc…) but haiti messed up all his plans and was force to fight mosley which if he didn’t he would of officially become the biggest pu%*y in boxing history!! but i do agree on the drug testing tho.

Ryan. Baldomir, Judah, DLH were all naturally bigger, taller, etc. Manny actually put on muscle. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree, because, I and others have made good points as well, and it seems that your allegiance lies with Manny, and that’s fine with me, I don’t really care about either of them. I don’t even know them. I just love boxing.

@1234, I care what you think. Good post.

Wowzabean. I don’t think Manny is a sh-ttiy fighter. I do think he HAS had carefully selected opponents. I STILL think he’s a descent guy (not as perfect as some paint him), and very exciting to watch. In fact, I was so disgusted with this whole thing at first, but as we get closer, I may change my mind and get the Clottey fight, because there’s no denying that if not anything, Manny Pacquiao is exciting to watch. However, I do think he is technically flawed. I do think the people behind the curtains in the sport have helped him along…including the media.

And I also agree than Floyd should have just fought him…juice or not. I am a reasonable person, and have no allegiance to any fighter. I say what I see, and that’s that. I also refuse to be linded by my respect for a fighter.
I never got into any chats w/ you, but if you had, you would know that I share some of the same opinions as you on this thing. I think Floyd could have scratched the surface on this, fought him, beat him, and left him to his own devices. I also think Manny could have gave in a little too. He could have countered with something that made Floyd uncomfy too, like asking for specific dates, and like 10 blood tests as well. But making such a big thing over this issue shows a weakness in him. It shows that a man who gladly welcomes stardom, is afraid of losing it. He’s ok with spilling blood on the canvas…but not on the lab floor? He’s ok with getting inked up, but not giving a vial of blood a week or two before a fight. Makes no sense to me.

I just know that what I’ve seen of these two fighters, Manny has bad habbits, that would be quickly exposed if he fought someone of Floyd’s, Colazzo’z, Berto’s, Mosley’s, Sergio’s, etc calliper. If he’s ok conquering the Joshua Clottey’s of the boxing world that’s great. Hope he’s proud of that legacy.

@wowazbean

Y do you defend Manny so much. I read these blogs all the time and you never have nothing bad to say about Manny. Do you know Manny or something. You seem to be 1000% sure Manny has never taken any PEDS. Do you live with the dude I mean seriously. You have no idea what kind of PERSON Manny is. All you see is what the Media show you of this dude. Bob Arum & Roach have been saying the blood test is a way to get in Mannys head. Because of this you have been repeating what they have said. The funny thing is that PBF said the reason he wants to have the test is to create a level playing field. But for some strange reason you take this as a lie. But what you have done was convince yourself why PBF wants to get the test done. I just don’t understand people like you.

If mayweather is all concerned about uses of ped’s and such, he should had gone to the boxing commissioner first and try to make a case out of it before he decided to come back in boxing.
As a boxing fan, I feel he’s these drama of his is just a way to get an edge on a particular fighter.
I agree that there’s plenty of fighters out there who knowingly or unknowingly took ped’s and for some got away with it. Surely there should be more stringent on testing and maybe change on how it is done. But it should be done by the boxing commissioner not a fighter getting ready for a bout. Mayweather should never came down on the bargaining table and ask for immidiate changes. He should made a claim to the boxing commissioner first and made a claim. He should have told his promoter that he’s not willing to take anymore bout untill drastic changes in boxing testing procedures.
Right now, it looks to me like he’s just trying to edge on pacquiao

Wowzabean. So you actually think that a newly turned pro boxer, with no wins, no showcased talent, has the negotiating power, and pull, to demand such a thing. Ang again, He asked for it in this fight. If people think it’s so appauling, or cowardly, than they can choose not to fight him. It’s not the commission’s rule, it’s his negotiations. I just have to say, if people make that a cheif complaint, as to why they don’t want to fight him…it only implies 2 things.

1. They’re dirty.

2. They’re scared.

Make your pick.

What he wants isn’t wrong by any stretch of the imagination. That being said it is not only the ideal, but the reason behind that ideal. He’s doing it for malicious reasons, not for the sport. If it were for the sport, he would not have introduced it 40 fights later in his career, and right before a fight of the decade. Pacquiao agreed to testing, he agreed to be the most tested boxer of all time, Mayweather wanted more control over that situation. Control doesn’t equal fairness in the sport, it’s all ego, nothing else. So no, there is no adulation for Mayweather Jr. If you honestly want to change the sport, do it a step at the time, and fight Pacquiao p*ssy.

MAYWEATHER TOO MUCH BS !!!!!

@Ryan

Unbiased post bruh. I agree with you. Its just crazy to me that some people go overboard and refuse to admit that negeotiations were badly handled by both parties. I do agree that Pacquiao does not have a history of using PEDS. But, his refusal to take the tests leave an opening for doubt. I also have doubts as to why floyd just now decided to start blood testing. The truth is WE do not know either of these two men, so i think its important that we remain unbiased to both men. But at the same time look into the facts and draw educated conclusions for our opinions. But, you do make very, very good points Ryan.

@Haku

My problem with all the 5-day cut off, 30 days maximum, oh okay 24 days but that’s it, no no 14 days or deal is off.

Is that it’s all secondary to the point. The point is we don’t know what would have been the final verdict. There were other strings attached to each of those dates. Manny was NEVER going to agree to RANDOM blood testing no matter what. Floyd, it seemed, ALWAYS insisted that the only way this would work is if the blood tests were random.

Too many unanswered questions. The bottom line is twofold:

1. Floyd Mayweather made a contractual request which superceded the boxing commissions and had no grounds for suspicion.

2. Manny Pacquiao refused the request and floundered badly with some of the dumbest excuses, which (I AGREE) make him look way more suspicious than he needed to.

But I think that even if he, from day one, vehemently refused unwaveringly to take the blood test, people would still think that the simple refusal was reason enough to consider Manny guilty.

…ryan

@ Ryan. Do you remember Erik Morales getting such flak for asking for blood tests from Manny, way back when? Granted, he never verbally came out and made the accusation, but nobody takes a blood test to check their iron levels in boxing. I don’t think Erik was making sure many cholesterol was in check.

“How does asking for a random blood test put any fighter of any sport in an advantage? Here, i’ll tell you in absolutely no way!, unless you actually ARE taking something and that test would mess up your strategy right? Manny?.”

Then how about this one, why not Kobe ask just Lebron manchild James a random blood test in the middle of a 7 game series Finals. Not coming from the NBA commission but the Kobe himself! Do you think Lebron will agree? How about if Artest requested for for Lebron take it and not Kobe at all?…all for the “sake of cleanliness”

@Fighter

Manny doesn’t get the pass from me, but the burden of proof is on the accuser. Manny has a choice, he can give in to Floyd’s demand, agree to what he asks, even if he thinks it puts him at a disadvantage.

Or he can stand by his decision, be stubborn, and show his anger at Mayweather and Co. for defaming him. He’s been known to be a bit childish like that.

Regarding Shane Mosley. He was brought under suspicion by Victor Conte, who ended up going to prison for 4 months for giving illegal drugs to athletes. Mosley lied at first and said he didn’t know what he was getting, and he was told it was completely safe. Conte, with nothing to lose, simply said he has no motivation for misleading an athlete. He also said that he gave the drugs to Mosley in his office, and watched Mosley take the first injection right then and there, to show him how to do it.

There is no such accuser out in the world right now who has anything remotely close to a smoking gun for Pacquiao. Until one comes up, I’m not going to go on the word of Floyd Sr. and Floyd Jr. or De La Hoya, or anybody else with an agenda supporting the accuser. It doesn’t make sense to me.

Finally, Floyd DID indeed imply that Manny was on something in his interview with RA the Rugged Man (youtube it if you haven’t heard). He leaves it ambiguous, but the question is put into the air that, when asked if he thinks Manny’s on something, he replies something to the effect of… “Manny’s country makes the best PEDs in the world, so uh… I’m just saying.”

@RealBox

Why is my analogy retarded, as you say? You might disagree with me, but Floyd’s asking for medical testing in a boxing negotiation, and by doing so he is saying two things at once: 1) That the medical testing the commissions do is inadequate (which it is, no disagreement there); and 2) That instead of lobbying the commission to update the tests and clean up the sport in the name of good will and honesty, he says he’ll handle it himself, in his own negotiations, since he’s Floyd Mayweather after all.

And as to the rest, Manny and Floyd are both great fighters, and if one of them cherry picks, then so does the other, because both of them, by and large, let their PROMOTERS do the match making for them. And right now, both fighters have a LOT of earning power, meaning it is a privilege for any fighter to box them. And with that comes the ability to pick and choose exactly who you want to fight, whether for safety/risk reasons, or financial/reward reasons. I’m not saying it’s right, but that is how it is, as long as fighters get to negotiate their own terms.

I don’t see any reason for you to be cut-throat with your replies. If we disagree we disagree, but let’s be adults about it and make our own points, and respect the other person’s opinion for a minute.

…ryan

Your right Ryan. But explain Shane Mosley. He was only caught because he had to testify under oath. Otherwise, nobody would have known. There are designer drugs engineered for the specific purposes of enhancement with no detection. I guess these guys should put their lives on the line knowing this, and risk it anyway. That’s like saying “if you wan to make it here, you better shut up and go along. ” If the other dummines are stupid enough to do it, that’s their buisiness, but don’t fault a person for trying to change it. What, does somebody have to die in the ring?

And if Manny keeps fighting tomatoe cans until he retires…or his political carreer jumps off, I doubt he has the stuff to be a hall of famer. He’s exciting, but let’s face it…he has very carefully selectedused up, flatfooted, beaten down, undermatched guys.

@SmoovOne, watch Pacquiao vs. Barrera I and you’ll see how Pac’s stamina since then. Pac’s not like Hatton who balloons to 200lbs when there’s no fight. He regularly plays basketball to keep himself fit.

Credibility is on of the main problems here. How could the public take his “Quest” seriously if he’s on PED’s himself. Oh I know what you’re thinking. Xylocaine is a legal drug. But don’t tell me Mayweather doesn’t have any unfair advantage over his opponents when he uses it. Being able to punch somebody very hard without feeling anything is something I seriously consider CHEATING!

@wilson: According to Kizer of the Nevada Commission, additional drug testing can be negotiated by the boxers. As long as they agree, the commission will agree to it. Nothing is ever wrong with more stringent drug testing, according to Kizer.

Max kellerman said that pacman has a special satisfaction from beating all fighters over tha world.. That the Filipino fighter is beating tha american fighter, a mexican fighter, English fighter, puerto rican fighter…. Manny response!??… Is not my intentions to beating em all.. I’m just doing my job..

Because it is nothing to do with Mayweather, he is there to fight and leave the rules to governing bodies. End of argument.

Also: To this writer, Chris Williams:

Dude, “random” blood tests will not only detect HGH, but EPO. EPO is used for stamina. This is what many suspect Pacquiao may be using. EPO gives one the ability to fight for days.

Clottey say’s????…. It must b is not talent, it can’t b talent, but! Its something that maybe he worked 4 it… He pray 4 god, n go give him power… Manny pacquiao he hAve a power that he always think tha power is from HEAVEN.. (from h.b.o)

Back @Ryan. I respectfully agree with much of what you just said. But I have a couple of areas to discuss further, or even bring to your attention.

1. You make a GREAT point, that Floyd should have went after Shane 1st, and asked him for randoms, THEN went with Manny. I look at Manny, and he’s way too vascular, and muscular compared to a couple of years ago. You don’t normally, naturally bulk up like that once you’re outside of your 20′s. Our bodies quit producing natural HGH in our late teens to early twenties. Not to say that it can’t be done, but it is worth the quandry. Look at the carreers of all those who admitted to using PDE’s. Bonds, Maguire, Sosa, Mosley, and so-on, they all were in slumps, and were then MONSTERS thereafter. This is not scientific evidence by far, but worth looking into.

2. Manny is being given this sympathy card by everyone, but he LOOKS dirty, by tring to make us beleive that he’s a blood and guts gladiator…who is faint at losing a teeny weeny vile of blood, less than he probably has lost in sparring, in a more brutal fashion than a syringe mind you.

3. As I said, you made VERY sound points. But what I did notice, is that you seem to fall into the catagory of the majority in this issue. What I mean is this; literally scroll back and look at your post. The ENTIRE thing is about Mayweather, and his M.O. for this fight. You never once looked at the possibilities/probabilities of Manny, and Freddy (who has coached at least two athletes who came up dirty) playing a little politics too.

I guess Floyd’s playing the villain is really convincing. Maybe he should get into acting when he’s done with acting. Or maybe culturally, we just love looking at the darker skinned guy as the villain.

And Pac… well Pacman lets his fists do the talking.

Ali walked the talk. The other one… just talks.

gill. $10 million per lb penalty over the agreed weight limit is not a commission matter you moron. Drug test is a commission matter. duh. And it also justified because Mayweather cheated 2 lbs heavier against Marquez.

Haku 313 it’s no sense in trying to explain to these Pac Fans that if a person accuses you of something that you’re not doing, just smile at their ass and say” let me show you that you’re a liar” if Manny is not willing to do that then in my eyes he is on something. who knows how long the cycle is when you use whatever the hell he’s being accused of. if it can be out of your system in a few days or even a week and you use it for two weeks then in 24 days he can use it and it will be out of his system after the fight.and that’s when manny wants to take it, after the fight. if floyd didn’t have to take the test then that would be different. @Caine- my point about manny lobbying the commission is to say that if manny can negotiate what he wants without going through the commission then pbf shouldn’t have to either. neither one of their request are in the commission rules but it’s cool for manny to ask for his wants but it’s over the top for pbf. BE HONEST WITH ME CAINE, WHAT SOUNDS MORE OVER THE TOP: A RANDAM BLOOD TEST FOR BOTH BOXERS OR 10 MIL A POUND OVER 147 OR JUST 10 MIL PERIOD.

@ all manny fans
the thing I don’t understand about this whole PBF Manny blood testing stuff is that it is all opinion.
PBF bringing a chicken is an opinion. Manny using PEDs are an opinion. Everyone Is able to have an opinion bcuz it is free. The only facts we have btween the two is that they didn’t fight and Manny decline to take the blood test. Instead of giving your opinion we should be asking y didn’t manny take the test.

J Jones. Before you start talking about IQ’s, let me correct you, it’s ORGANIZATION…no ‘S’ buddy.

Mayweather is as afraid as Manny is. Like I said, Manny gave blood 14 days before his Hatton fight. Manny admitted it, that he’s “superstitious” about giving blood. The boy smells scared to me.

This is an ongoing problem with pacfans. They are so biased, that theuy only see flaws in others, not their idol.

Look at Pac’s previous fights, have we heard any trash talk from Pacquiao? Clottey even praises him and respects him as a fighter because Pac respects his opponent. We even saw how he said that Dela Hoya is still his idol after their bout, and ODLH replied “No, you’re my idol”. Which fighter do you want your kids to see, in & outside the ring?

No he shouldnt be applauded, the 1 thing hes done above all else of late is tarnish the reputation of the best boxer on the planet.

I Just find Bob Arum & Freddi Roach a complete joke, for attacking Mayweather for asking for a blood test! i mean wtf, if he is willing ot tkat teh very same test, how on earth can he be classed as ‘scared’ by the two?! Pacman is on something, it’s ridiculous to be walking throught shots liek he has done is his past few fights.

yes ur right floyd is a chiken. hes a chiken because he asked a fighter to take blood tests. blood tests that both fighters would b subjected too.u kno he knw pac was on the roids and there was no way he would accept and he was scared of him so he made it up. u know thats y floyds a chiken hes afraid to fight guys like pacman. and would never step in the ring wit guys like mosely. o wait hes scheduled to fight mosely isnt he. no no hel jus pull out wit a excuse or a injury isnt that right pacfans?. u guys are sujesting floyds a mind reader that he knew pac would decline.(pc has a video of him takin out blood couple weeks befo the clottey fight). no this tells me hes afraid of floyd. because if he took blood fo no dam reason( dun forget thiswasnt a random blood test)then y wouldnt he jus take it 14 days befo the mayweather fight?. ask urselfs that. i think he took the tests to prove to u numbskulls that hes clean and u guys would believe it. evewn tho he knew wat day he was goin to take the test.

I wonder who’s going to buy Floyd’ fight when majority of boxing fans knew that he is only after a big payday and not for the sake of giving the fans the fight that they deserve to see which is a good boxing showdown with lots of quality action.

I believe Floyd has never been this dispicable to a good number of boxing fans who used to admire him including myself.
The Floyd today confuses me the same way most boxing fans feel about him and it’s because of one reson only,..he is inventing ways not to make a fight with the p4p king by using unheard excuses and rediculous request which only IDYOTTS agree,..”Random Blood test that rooted first from a Steroid allegation from a legitimate crackhead which happend to be FLOyd’s own father floyd sr.

I laugh in disgust everytime I think of this new Floyd of today in which it’s given me enough reasons not to buy his PPV fight with Moseley on may 1st.

@Caine totally agree with you. And pacman so love boxing if the commission ask blood testing he will do it.

Pacnuthuggers have been calling Floyd chicken for asking Pac submits to PED test. I think it is the other way around. Team Pac is scared stiff of fighting Floyd. How can a fighter like Pacquiao who gets his face banged hard by heavy fists, be scared of needles? He even once said his culture or religion forbids drawing blood. Showed you how smart Manny is. LOL. He didn’t repeat that silly excuse perhaps it sounded stupid even to him afterwards. Team Pac finds a way to wiggle out of fighting Floyd. Smart move.

Old Bobby A squeezed one more fight out of Pac before the latter sails away to the horizon. Or, quite possibly, all these hoolabaloo is nothing but a ploy to spice up the match. Bob A wouldn’t mind Pac losing his last fight if it makes himself a few more millions richer. Roach, who sincerely cares about the well being of his project, should grow a pair and pit his pet against someone who is not washed up or drained.

Nonetheless, I will watch Pacquiao-Clottey, because it is a joy watching carnage. Pac is always fun to watch.

@sardo noomski

He isn’t asking Manny to prove that he was clean in any of his previous fights..He is just saying he will require any fighter he fights to take a blood test, just as he will to prove to everyone that they are clean.

@JAYSMOOTH
The Mayweathers are telling that Pac is taking drugs that make soldiers shrug .45 bullets.
So should we take Pac in a shootout test?

@JesusJones

Boxing is not a gentlemens sports. I don’t know any boxer who praises his opponent before he fights them..All the fighters in Boxing talk trash..Just read some of the articles on some of the other fights. Don’t call Floyd a disgrace to boxing when he, RJJ and OScar carried the sport for several years. One thing, you fail to mention is after every fight Floyd has fought he gave his opponents alot of respect and praise. Its all apart of the game.

@Floyd Sr

If I given my reasoning why i think he thinks that Manny would be juicing. And besides, if I go into a negotiation and all i hear from someone is ” I want this size gloves, i want a 50/50 split, I want the ring to be this size”. Which i have said yes to all the recommendations. So, when I ask for something, I would want that same person with all these demands to think with logic and say ok, since he has honored my request, I need to honor his. All the excuses are not needed. He already came out and said he would give whatever as long as it wasn’t within a day of the fight. So, why didn’t he say this when they went to mediation, why did he stick to the 24 day thing. But now he can take any kind of test to prove he is clean. Yeah, I bet he will take any test now because he probably already got it all out of his system.. In 12 days, we will see how he looks.

@Caine

The NBA does conduct Random Drug testing. If you are familiare with Baskeball, there have been a few athletes that have tested positive. Besides, we are dealing with a sport were your physical strength doesn’t play a big part role in your overall performance. You can be the smallest guys in the NBA and score points. But, there is one thing for certain, in the NBA guys don’t continue to get faster and quicker they get slower and replaced..LOOk at Allen Iverson he was one of the best players in the league when he was younger bc he was quick and fast, now that he has gotten older he could barely find a team to give him playing time and he has only been playing for 13 years, so he an Manny are the same age. Look at Football, LT was fast and quick but guess what father time caught up with him as well and then SD Charger released him because they said he lost it. Thats what happens when you compete at a hight level for a long period of time. You don’t get faster and quicker with time.

NO!

@lex and anyone else who wish to ask this question:

What BIG FIGHTERS have Floyd dodged? I know you are going to say Williams, Marguarito. But, could you please explain to me how you can say he dodged big fights through out his carreer. Can you please name these fighters he dodged and please don’t mentioned Shane, because we all know what happened there. If you can give me fighters at every level in his carreer, I would agree but you can’t. He fought the best they were at that time. Just because he beat these people really bad and made them look like amateur fighers, doesn’t mean he didn’t fight the best.

Look here, the legacy thing does not make sense. Legacy at the expense of 60+ million Dollars? My thinking is that by asking for a test, Floyd has acknowleged that Manny is extraodinary. It is just that in today’s sport especially when an athelate has extraordinary enduarance more than anything else, eyebrows are raised. Lets have a levelled playing field….simple. Floyd is an astute business man, a legacy in itself alone, is not worth these millions of dollars. Now for Pacman, what would be the dammage to his legacy if he is caught?

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He should be applauded if he can convince the Commission and the Commission will make it mandatory for all due to FMJ’s appeal to them. But for now, boxers are not oblige to do what Mayweather wants. Because of his backgroud (trash talking/bullying) he don’t have that credibility to ask someone and succumb to his demands. Boxers can’t do anything about it if the Commission will make it mandatory for all.

I just don’t understand why Manny MUST be on something just because ODH, Hatton, JMM and Floyd can’t do what he did.

CHRIS WILLIAMS: LET ME SCHOOL YOU. You are not missing something, but instead SOMETHINGS to be exact you are missing 3 things 1. Some peoples DEEP HATRED TOWARDS FLOYD: If Floyd says that water is good for the body somepeople will say HELL NO. Just because FLOYD SAID SO. 2..Some peoples WORSHIP FOR MANNY: In their eyes MANNY IS A SAINT HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING, EVERYTIME, AND THAT ONLY IDIOTS AND RETARDS WOULD DARE TO QUESTION ANY OF HIS WORDS OR ACTIONS. AND YES # 3 STUPIDITY: Thats right some people still believe that SANTA CLAUS IS COMING TO TOWN. Do the math CHRIS 1+2=3 STUPIDITY

@TONY G

No, i wouldnt. Which goes back to my point that none of us know if hes clean or not. But we do know for a FACT that when the random drug testing was presented the mayweather fight went sour. WE do not know for a FACT that mayweather is clean. BUT we do know for a FACT he is willing to take the tests. All im saying is that people need to stop pretending that they know for a FACT that hes clean.

@MARSHALL

Pacman has a huge entourage around him during training. which, he and freddie roach had issues with during the hatton 24/7. So, the excuse about it messing up his training is no good bruh

You do not need to add the blood tests. Just update the urine tests.

Floyd only wanst the blood tests because they are invasive and will disrupt Pac;s training.

@Pic

wasn’t it stated that the boxing commission would mandate there test but if an athlete wanted to ask for more testing they could. so, mayweather asked for more testing.

You only look on the surface. If this random bs is followed, would americans fight in other countries where hometown decision and testing agency will handle the matter? Fighting in a foreign country is a concern enough, how much more if you will allow them to insert needles on your body? There are so much money on the line here, understand that it could even ruin the sport (w/ mafioso on the guise of fair play).

With all the publicity surrounding that Manny is accused of using PED (without any proof), I imagine the total hell Manny is going through. By now, every movement is being watch. At wild gym there should be thousands of hidden cameras all over the place planted. Similarly when he goes to Dallas, specimen of his food, urines, trash are probably being scrutinized, while Floyd is a “freelance”. Nobody’s watching him ‘coz all attention is on Manny. “Shouldn’t Mayweather be applauded for wanting testing for PEDs?” For me, it is a big “NO”. This is totally a distraction and unfair to him. I am glad that this could be his last fight.

@CAINE

Get Pacquiao B@LLS out of your mouth bruh! You DO NOT know that man. YOU DO NOT know if he is on steroids or not. None of us know if hes on PEDS or not. The FACT is that when random blood testing was proposed, the fight blew up. Thats what we do know! We DO NOT know if Floyds on PEDS either but we DO know that hes willing to take the Random tests to prove it. These are the cold hard FACTS bruh. He asked the man to take some blood test not fight with one arm behind his back.

if floyd needs to lobby the commission for blood test then manny needs to lobby for the ten mil. they are both not in the rules of the commission. the commission can’t negotiate your fights, the fighters do. pbf was overweight once. but if manny wants to make sure it doesn’t happen again then he puts it in his contract. the only crazy thing about manny is everything he asked for is for his advantage. gloves manny, ring manny,50/50 manny, 10 mil manny. what if he’s overweight? that’s cool i guess. floyd should say ” i’ll pay 10 mil a pound for anything over 152 and not 147 since you want 24 days to the fight and i want 14″ the only one who has to compromise is pbf.

Some fans are wondering if the fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao will ever happen I think the answer is never. Youtube jamie foxx with mayweather and you will find the real answer from Floyd Jr. himself. Go people!

“You trained hard and the fight will be easy” – MANNY PACQUIAO

I REST MY CASE…..GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE!

All of us want to have a clean fight and we all hate cheaters … But this is Mayweather talking … IT IS LIKE JACK THE RIPPER WANTING TO *CLEAN UP THE LONDON STREETS OF SCUMBAGS.

All of us want to have a clean fight and we all hate cheaters … But this is Mayweather talking … IT IS LIKE JACK THE RIPPER WANTING TO BE CLEAN UP THE LONDON STREETS OF SCUMBAGS.

@Liu Kang and everyone else who ask this question.

“Why didn’t he bring it up againts previous fighters if he want to clean up the sport?”

Because Oscar, Hatton, JMM, and even Floyd himself were starting to hit the “wall”. The wall is when you get to a leave and your body starts to adjust because of the punishment or years you have put on it. All of these fighter were in there 30′s and was around for a long time. That wasn’t the case with Manny, he just kept getting bigger at a faster rate without looking bloated. Let me tell you something, i don’t care who you, if you can go from fighter 130 to 147 (Manny vs Oscar) in a matter of 9 months, and don’t get fat you are taking something. Anyone who has paricipated in Collegiate or Pro Sports know that if you train and work out, you tend to loose weight instead of put on weight. So, for Manny to put on this much weight, he had to have gain about 30 lbs in 9 months. That is unheard of unless you are just sitting around eating McDonalds and pizza all day. That is where the suspicion comes in. Look at JMM, didn’t he look bloated when he fought Mayweather at 144.

Imagine on an NBA Finals, Kobe demanding random drug testing protocol with Lebron. That would be awesome, don’t you think?

If MW can’t fight under the commission’s rules, he can go fight somewhere else. There’s always WWE. Oh, that would be a joy demanding olympic style drug testing in WWE. I’ll surely applaud Floyd for that.

Mayweather is afraid of the unknown. It can affect him mentally by creating fear and uncertainty in his mind. Is that what you think Chris?

Gee, I agree with Sgt Peppers, PBF does need a badge of courage from the Wizard of OZ to take away his fears.

As Bob Arum suggested, if PBF wants to clean up the sports, he should petition the Boxing Commission to change the rules. PACMAN will surely agrees with what the Boxing Commission decides. What’s stopping him or is it just a charade.

@Haku

Yeah. He retired during the time when the ODLH rematch is on the works and the WW division is full of talented fighters. And he’ll be remembered as the one boxer who uses X*locaine (a banned substance in 49 states except Nevada) and demands for random drug testing.

And please… take your PC to a technician. Your CAPS LOCK key seems to be broken. Or if you don’t know where it is, it on the left side of your keyboard, the one above the Shift key.

I understand where Floyd is coming from probably even Manny. Manny agreed to testing 24 days or so before the fight and right after. That still wasen’t enough for Floyd. I’m convinceD Floyd has used some enhancements, he looks way to big and thick. There’s nothing wrong with legal supplement enhancers. What athlete doesn’t take any sort of enhancers. Manny agreed, remember that.

Good article. I would not go as far as saying he deserves applause. But, when these tests become a standard, in boxing, people will remember who spoke up about it.

For those who say, you can’t just change the rules of the commission. The NSAC does not prevent two fighters from negotiating these types of matters, between themselves. The same is true for catchweights, gloves, ring size, weight penalties, etc. If they CONFLICT with the NSAC rules, that’s another matter altogether. But, that was not the case here.

These Pac fans are trying to make it seem like Floyd was trying to make Manny his b*tch or something. That’s a FEELING you have, which is not ROOTED IN FACT. You are too blinded by hate for PBF–and love for Pac–to look at this objectively.

The simple fact is, PBF was within his LEGAL right to ask for additional testing, and even PROPOSE what type of testing to be used. Manny was within his right to try to renegotiate or refuse this request, which he did.

Neither fighter was trying to BE the commission. They were acting within the law, while exercising their rights to negotiate the logistics of the fight.

It is one (allegedly) clean fighter to another (allegedly) clean fighter, asking the other to aid him, in ensuring there is a level playing field.

Anything other than the FACTS, don’t mean a damn thing…it just makes for interesting reading…

This writer blocks the X*locaine word on every comment. I wonder why?

Oh yeah, Manny travels from the airport to US where security was super tight for whatever they bring to the plane. Manny trains @Wild Gym in Los Angeles. Philippine crew probably are like scientist, very Hi-Tech that as tight as the security and under peoples scrutiny on Manny, the US with the best Technology in the world with the best detective in the world can’t detect what Manny was doing. With millions of athlete in US compared to one Pinoy, Filipinos outsmart the US and Manny Pacquiao is on PEDs and HGH. Yeah, I think Filipinos are the brightest people in the world. That is why Manny is always tested clean every time he fights. Is that what all of you ALL are saying???

People think he is on PEDs.
People think he is cheating.
Mayweather Jr. and Sr. thinks he can’t fight without the Sh**t on him.
Mayweather Jr. and Sr. think there must be something in him.
Mayweather Jr. and Sr. think he is a nightmare…
But the thing is Manny is just being Manny.
His work ethics, his motivation, his God loving attitude made him the best of the best.
Believe it or not,
Manny Pacquiao is the SUPERMAN-ny.

Is pacquiao the first sportman of being accused of using enhancing drugs? Because that is very rare for me.

GREAT ARTICLE CHRIS!!!!!!!

I agree with the writer 100%.Professional boxing is behind amatuer boxing where these tests are taken, like many professional sports. When professional boxing does, and it will, include blood tests, what will boxers like Pacqiou do, quit?

If someone is clean and have nothing to hide just take the test. People can insult Mayweather all they want but pacqiou’s reputation will also have this PED suspiscion attached to him.

Afraid of needles? Is he a cave man? What century is he in?

@TB

You asked @Kid Boxing how you can get “solid proof” someone is on PED’s without that person submitting to your demand for blood testing. Here are a few ways:

1. Someone finds needles, vials, or other substances indicating PED usage.

2. Someone rats him out, and produces a ‘script in his name.

3. Authorities bust him or his camp acquiring black market drugs.

4. He admits it outright.

5. And so on and so on…

You need grounds for suspicion that go beyond “He flexes his muscles at the weigh-in in a suspicious way.”

I think three things should happen:

1. Health clauses should not be allowed in boxing negotiations.

2. Change in medical procedures should be lobbied to the boxing commissions.

3. The standards for testing should be updated to reflect the best testing possible in boxing. It is a dangerous sport, people die inside the ring, and of all sports this one should have the most comprehensive PED testing policies.

Sadly, I don’t know if any of those three things will happen any time soon.

…ryan

Here’s Pacquiao’s weights in the last 4 years:

Pacquiao vs. Morales 3: November, 2006 – Pacquiao’s weight inside the ring was 144 lbs.

Pacquiao vs. Barrera 2: October 2007 He was 144 during fight night.

Pacquiao vs. Marquez 2: March 2008 – Pacquiao’s weight during the fight was 145.

Pacquiao vs. Diaz: June 2008 – Pacquiao went up to lightweight for the first time and on fight night re-hydrated to 147.

Pacquiao vs. De La Hoya: December, 2008 – The limit for the fight was 147 and on fight night Pacquiao weighed 148 1/2.

Pacquaio vs. Hatton: May, 2009 – Pacquiao weighed 148.

Pacquiao vs. Cotto: November, 2009 – Pacquiao weighed around 149.

That’s a five pound increase in 4 years!!! Wow! Steroids huh?!?

Mayweather Sr. screwed up again. How could a man jailed for illegal drug trafficking convince people that Pacquiao using drugs on his last fights.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it” – Hitler

Still, Floyd insist Manny(according to Floyd is an easy fight, easy money, 1-dimensional fighter) to take a random blood test. WTF!

History will not remember Mayweather Jr. as an all-time great. It won’t put him on the pedestal with Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard and Julio Cesar Chavez. Because to be great, you have to fight the great, and for most of his career Mayweather has staunchly refused to do that.

Manny Pacquiao continue to do what boxing fans have always wanted Floyd Mayweather Jr to do. Make fights with the most threatening opponents and once the bell ring go to war. Pacman is a true warrior willing to die in the ring. When Pacquiao goes into the ring he fights for his country and his legacy. Pac is the only boxer won titles of the 4 of 8 original weight class. We all know Floyd fights for money. Search the Floyd Mayweather interview by the ruggedman. Floyd said “Legacy dont pay bills”

“I didnt know from where the punches were coming, Manny Pacquiao is one of the best boxers I ever fought” – Cotto

“I’m just doing my job, to give a good fight and make people happy” – Manny Pacquiao

@Props one on that!

Maywheather is not only a smart fighter but also a smart buisness man. A fight of that magnitude merits all the scrutiny in the world. Legacy’s are at stake the night would forever change either both fighters career and life in the balance. I sure as hell would’nt turned down 40 million plus paperperperview profits for a tube of blood 14 days before the fight sht they could do it the night of the fight as far as im concerned, lol……..IF U AINT GOT NOTHING TO HIDE……

@Chris Williams;
I dont think its a matter of Floyd wanting the testing to clean up the sport. I think that people know its a way out of his last big fights before the end of his career (wether fighters he faces are/were on PED’s or ‘roids or not), its definitely a deterent in the negotiations process and even more so the training preparations to have to submit yourself to an onslaught of blood and urine testing 24/7. If he were genuine about cleaning up the sport he could’ve/would’ve lobbied, petitioned, held a press conference or at least mentioned it long before the Pacquiao negotiations. Afterall it was a big issue several years back when Moseley was involved and Floyd knew that there was a potential fight with Moseley back then. Why didnt he speak up??? Because Moseley is not Pacquiao and he knows he can beat Moseley, thats why! Also, who is he to go above the Boxing Commission/Athletic Commission? Doesnt he have any respect for the governing bodies of the sport that gave him a life (a good life). What does it show to the world of sports and the casual boxing fan to see that the governing bodies of the sport of boxing can be so “discounted”?!?!…So the nature of his cause is not an honorable or genuine one, thats why he gets no applause!

All Hail Mayweather! The saviour of boxing!

lol this article is so funny as if Mayweather didn’t make it obvious enough that he clearly didn’t want to fight Pacquiao. For the first time in his cherry picking life he found an opponent that post a risk and had the skills to beat him. When Floyd came back from retirement, why did he pick Marquez, a natural 130 pounder. he had to go up 2 devisions to fight Floyd and Floyd didn’t want to test anyone then. Floyd knows he is living in the shaddow of Pacquiao so on that night before Pacquiao was to fight Hatton he came out of retirement to announce his fight w/ Marquez. Now that Pacquiao is fighting Clottey, Floyd chose Mosley even though Floyd ducked Mosley, Cotto, Clottey. Floyd is trying to outshine Pacquiao, Floyd is jealous that is why he makes these aligations. Floyd will never get close to defaming Pacquiao. That can only be decided in the ring.

absolutly,he should,everyone should,it’s ashame a boxer busts his ass at training an come fight night the only thing his opponet does is get juiced..how can people not have a problem wit that,if it was my son brother or any friend or anybody i care about no sane human would accept that they fight anybody with any kind of advantage..