Roach says the Klitschko brothers are winnable fights for Haye – News
February 2nd, 2010
By William Mackay: In an interview with the Telegraph, trainer Freddie Roach gives World Boxing Association heavyweight champion David Haye (23-1, 21 KO’s) a good chance of beating both of the Klitschko brothers. However, Roach seems to think that WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko would be tough fight for Haye because of Vitali’s height and confidence. Haye, 29, has a fight coming up with former two-time heavyweight champion John Ruiz on April 3rd. Haye has to get by that fight if he wants to get to a big money fight against one of the Klitschko brothers.
Haye injured his right hand in the 3rd round. However, Haye looked just as awful in the 1st and 2nd round as he did in the rest of the after the injury. Whatever the case, Haye would have to fight much better than that if he didn’t want to get knocked out and totally dominated by Vitali Klitschko.
Roach says “The thing is with the Klitschkos, you [Haye] have to jump on them right away and make them fear him right away. I think that’s his [Haye] window of opportunity. I don’t think he can outbox Klitschko.” Roach is right. Haye isn’t much of a boxer and is more of a pot shot fighter who looks to stun his opponents with one big shot.
Haye doesn’t really jab all that much, and his work rate is often very low compared to the Klitschko brothers, even though they punch just as hard, if not harder. With their six inch reach advantage over Haye, both Klitschko brothers could easily jab Haye into submission from the outside without getting hit all that often.
“Wlad is the better fighter and better athlete,” Roach says. “But he lacks confidence. David Haye, if he goes after him [Wladimir], he can put that doubt in his head right away. I think he can do well.” Haye could do well, and he also could get knocked out if he goes after Wladimir early in the fight.
Also, if Haye does after Wladimir, he will have to continue to go after him nonstop like Samuel Peter, Ross Purity, Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster, fighters that have had success against Wladimir, or else Haye will get pounded from the outside. Haye doesn’t move nearly as well as Wladimir and won’t be able to follow him around. And for that matter, Haye also wouldn’t be able to move laterally against Wladimir without getting speared over and over again by Wladimir’s hard jabs.
Speaking of Vitali Klitschko, Roach says “He’s much more mentally strong [compared to Wladimir]. He’s a tougher fighter. Not as big a puncher [compared to Wladimir]. Another winnable fight [for Haye], but Vitali uses his height very well. He’s a big tall guy. He used to be a kick boxer. He fights off his back foot.” Roach says that it’s a winnable fight for Haye, but he doesn’t break it down as to how winnable of a fight it is.
Personally, I’d give Haye a 1% chance to beat Vitali and a 3% chance to beat Wladimir. The only way I can see Haye beating Vitali is if he injures himself during the fight. At 38, a body part can blow at any time for Vitali. And as for Wladimir, Haye has a small chance of catching him with a big shot. But it’s very unlikely because he’s so short, fights timidly now that he’s a heavyweight and only throws one punch at a time. You don’t beat Wladimir fighting like that.
Roach, talking now about Haye fighting Ruiz, says “Style wise, that’s a very difficult fight. He’s [Ruiz] an awkward fighter. He doesn’t get knocked out. He doesn’t take chances. The thing is, though, if he [Haye] can out there and get him [Ruiz] out like nobody else, I think it would be good for his [Haye] career.” Of course, it would, but Haye would have to be willing to risk getting caught himself if he wants to take a chance and try and get Ruiz out of there early in the fight. I doubt Haye will want to do that.
“I’d like David to go out there and get back to his old way and his aggressiveness,” Roach says. “I think he’s a much better fighter when he’s being aggressive. Personally, I’d have him take him out in the 1st round and let him go for it, but not being reckless. He’s a very good fighters, and with this fight, I’d say it’s a very winnable fight for him” [Haye].
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Haye had the chance and wanted to fight Wladamir, But haye p_SSY out of it, He” Scared. I don’t think that a real man would do that. Is he one of those sissies . Does he dresses up in his girlfriend clothes. A cross dresser maybe?
The last fighter Ruiz fought was ranked no.378 in the world! The proof is on Boxrec! Ruiz took 7rds to tko Adnan, the same guy that got KO in 3rds by a washed up Danny Williams(just before Audley Harrison KO Williams)
I thank Allah for giving me soo much knowledge and for not buying any propaganda!
Haye is badly over-rated, he fought a 38yrs old barrett, 37yrs old champ and now going to fight a 38yrs old ruiz!
heye has a style look like Roy jones but he never do like kim. because Roy is in hight level in everything.
Freddy Roach is a smart man and he’s absolutely right.
The Tuaman, now that’s the elephant in the room of the heavyweight division, not this manufactured imitation Ali in Hayes, or the has been Ruiz, or the throw back regressive evolutionary monstrosities in the Klitschkos/Valuev
i guess freddie is still mad that the klitschkos fired him after 1 fight. the klitschkos will slaughter this british sissy in the ring. roach just lucky that he has such a great fighter with paq. every trainer would shine with such great fighter. even if hes on oids..
I watched a cricket game my friend was in, down in Aust. Hell that was boring, worse than a Cubs game or how Ruiz fights..
do people just slag off boxers so they can say “i told you so” when they lose?
criticising things doesn’t make you smart.
if you’re a real boxing fan…which none of you losers who trawl the internet pointlessly criticising boxers…you wouldn’t talk like that. if you’d ever boxed you’d know the difference between a poor performance & a stifling gameplan. but whatever.
You make me laugh. Haye will slaughter Ruiz. His hand spead and counter punching ability will stop Ruiz as he tries to get in close. Once the Hayemakers get through it’s good night Quiet Man.
David
how many millions of people live in America 300million roughly? Well in Britain we only got 60million and we got a world heavyweight champ and you dumb nobs ain’t hahaha so that kinda kills your argument about Australia and England in cricket don’t it?
1% and 3% what a nob!!!! Haye will hopefully beat the boring robots. Wladimir, haye has a good chance of beating, buy vitali will be tough his chin is unbelievable
@Tony Y your a idiot Haye is the one that chickened out hes didnt fight and talked all that smack come on???
Right David first of all Andy Murray got beaten by the greatest tennis player ever. England beat Australia in the last Ashes campaign. Britain got more medals than the Aussies in the last Olympics. Im not taking anything away from Australia who are one of the best sporting nations, but to say those things about england and britain are stupid.
On to the subject of boxing, David Haye is a brilliant boxer who has every chance of beating Wlad. I do think however Vitali may just have too mush power for Haye and knock him out. Haye should not take Ruiz too lightly first tho
Haye is a joke wow hes all hype cant you guys see only people that surpport Haye are british fans and boxing media brits are so dumb man they no nothing about sport in general because they suck at everythink Australia has a population of 22millon and UK is 60millon and Australia are way better at sports like take cricket for example and tennis Andy Murray is got owned by Roger Federer in the final straight sets thats how dumb the british media is they pressure and hype there sporting people up so much
Haye got decked by shopworn Monte barret. The Ruis fight should be a hugfest. Haye is avoiding the brothers.
roach wants a heavyweight champ so he’s licking hayes bottom
Haye will be back to his menacing powerful best against Ruiz.
Can’t wait.
Ruiz is pushing 42yrs old and is wayyyy past his prime! Ruiz in his prime would have got arrested for murder if he fought Haye 5yrs ago(just before getting beat by Chagaev)!
Today Ruiz will probably lose by KO, it could happen any time since TUa KO Ruiz in 10secs! Ofcourse, if Haye loses then he just prove why he was a waste of space to the heavyweight division!
Very intersting to hear the thoughts of somebody as revered within the sport as Freddie Roach.
Very funny to read Williams views too. You crazy fool man you do make me laugh.
‘Suffice it to say, Haye is boxing on borrowed time and few will miss this guy when he is gone.’
Yeah those exciting knock-out or get knocked-out fighters are a bore arn’t they. Much rather watch some 7ft lumbering monsters hug each other to death. Stick to watching tennis buddy and let the real fight fans do the talking.
I think Ademek n haye would be a good test for both fighters with Ademek winning of coarse… and doing so by ko…
Every fight is winnable vs the Klitschko’s if you can land and if Haye dosn’t fold over after being hit. I think Freddie thinks he’s psychic but people will ask for their money back when he’s wrong on this one.
“Haye doesn’t move nearly as well as Wladimir”. You can’t be serious……What planet are u from ye feckin maniac
Haye is getting closer to his own KO as a heavyweight. If Ruiz can`t knock the mouthy Haye out then the next fighter he has to face will. It is simply a matter of time before Haye`s number is up.
I rather doubt he (Haye)will ever make it to a ring encounter with a Klitschko, long before he will have been deconstructed by a better fighter there being a number in the heavyweight scene that are more than happy to contribute their time and energy to this end.
Suffice it to say, Haye is boxing on borrowed time and few will miss this guy when he is gone.
David aint stupid, he will have studied Ruiz and will win by KO…
wladimir chickened out when he got the opportunity as Haye wanted to rearrange the date and he wouldn’t… Vitali is harder but slower and will engage more…David is in danger but I see him pulling through as he is better than Vitalis recent competition where he didn’t shine…
William Mackay says the Klitschko brothers are NOT winnable fights for Haye – News
Roach says the Klitschko brothers are winnable fights for Haye – News
I know who’s opinion I hold in higher regard
Such ridiculous short sighted hatred and narrow minded…
“But it’s very unlikely because he’s so short, fights timidly now that he’s a heavyweight and only throws one punch at a time.”
Jesus what a complete and utter moron, ‘now he’s a heavyweight’ He has had two fights at heavyweight one of which is Valuev and the other was a first round KO.
Problem with the Valuev fight is that most boxer look awful in the first two rounds as they are trying to work things out. Haye had a lot to work out faced with Valuev. Then he injured his better hand in the third. To actually win the fight and rock the giant was amazing. But all that is history.
Haye will destroy Ruiz and if he has no problems with his hands then he will beat the brothers too. He is too fast and hits very cleanly – you can pound someone all day but if you catch someone clean then you will KO them no problems.
You “forgot” to mention that Roach, within the same interview, calls the Klitschko’s boring fighters.
king d we will have to wait and see my freind when they meet.
IM going haye by ko in the 6 round.
What does Hayes do when Ruiz charges foward and starts to pick him a part from the inside. When Hayes starts throwing his haymakers, Ruiz will defend and he will get hit with a few but not enough to topple him off his feet. When Ruiz is hurt or threaten he’ll start to grab and make it a nast fight. When it becomes nasty, Ruiz controls the fight. Hayes needs space to let off his offence while Ruiz can go at it from where ever. Hayes will begin the first few round strong but Ruiz will control the fight afterwards. Only way Hayes can win if he can throw 1000 power punches and not get tired. That is doing the impossible. RUIZ EASY WIN.
Who needs footwork when you can ko your oponent any time of the fight.
Haye will ko ruiz just wait and see.
Haye’s chin is not suspect in my opinion. He has been beaten once and wasn’t knocked down, he actually punched himself out in that fight and was exhausted and taking shots from Carl Thompson who fought out of his skin that night. Im not a huge fan of Haye but i really don’t think his chin is as suspect as people think!
Haye may be athletic but his footwork and movment is quite mediocre.
Haye no agility ha ha ha
Hes the most athletic heavy weight in the division.
RUIZ IS GOING TO SLEEP FOR THE SECOND TIME BELIEVE IT.
only the k brothers pose any threat
Roy Jones Jr. was at his prime when he defeated Ruiz. Roy Jones Jr. is in a class of his own. 55% knockout ratio. You flip a coin and if it lands on heads than Hayes is going to get knocked out. I like those odds, more than 50%. Mr. Glass will feel pain when it comes down to it.
Ruiz been in matches with a lot of Power house hitters. Thus he’s been 2 time world champs. He knows what he’s doing. People sizing him down because his power is less superior to Hayes. Hayes got nothing but power, no jabs or agility. Ruiz will exploit this and DESTROY HAYES. I GURANTEE IT.
@ king D
ruiz ko rate 55% hes not dangerous enough son.
HES lost 8 bouts (fair play only ko 1)
like haye.
A small roy jones beat him king
he hasnt got the tools MATE.
KING D
do you honestly think haye is going to let ruiz snooze and cruise clinching haye??
Haye isnt a young puppy hes got experience too.
If haye can rock valuev with a broken hand he will ko ruiz with ease.
Why is everyone hyping up Hayes power. What about Ruiz ring experience and his footwork. Ruiz can be a messy fighter, throwing off Hayes power punches. Ruiz does a lot of holding and clinches, he will put his weight on Hayes, the smaller man. And tire him out. You can’t knock a brick wall if it’s leaning on you. Ruiz will do just that, grab and clinch then throw punches from the inside that will effecy Hayes and knock him to neverland.
King D you are having a laugh. Haye is the ONLY fighter to ever hurt valuev, The man who TWICE defeated ruiz! WAKE UP!
KING D
yeah haye might have a suspect chin
BUT hes got the power to break any boxer believe it
ruiz is going to sleep like monte.
Ruiz has NO chance PERIOD… KO in 3!
Boring Klitschko jab-robots are next… at last some excitement in the HWD
Hayes got a “GLASS CHIN” and Ruiz has great experience and a very hard chin.
He’ll be able to handle the grunt work of Hayes and throw in some hard punches. Ruiz will not go down easily, Hayes will. You can easily break glass with a single punch.
KING D
who are you trying to kid.
ruiz will be lucky to last 6 rounds
If Haye fight these two I think he will KO Wladimir in the 1st or 2nd round and KO Vitali late on in the fight. With the power Haye showed in a half hearted left hook which rocked Valuev Haye can and probably will knock out the rest of his opponents
Ruiz will destroy him. Ruiz has been known to outclass fighters with his lightning abilities and his jabing skills. The jab will set-up the knockout. Hayes will keep throwing haymakers while Ruiz ducks and cover. Hayes will tire out and Ruiz will start to pick him a part from there. If it goes 12 rounds Ruiz wins by decision. If it goes under 12 rounds, Ruiz wins by KO. There’s no way out for Hayes!