Roach says that Pacquiao won’t fight Mayweather if Floyd insists on blood testing

Bobby all of that might be true but what does that have to do with roach admitting to giving one of his boxers steroids , and that boxer being caught

It seems like after haku313 post all Pac fans are silent

To Jaysmooth,

Wow talk about misinformation. Where in the hell did you get that information that Marquez got the bigger purse than Floyd? You need to brush up on your info, but I will correct. Floyd was guaranteed $10 million for the fight and JMM was guaranteed $2 million. Because of the penalty occured by Floyd for not meeting the agreed catchweight by 2 lbs, he was penalized $600,000 and given to JMM. You can do the math…at least I hope you can. So get your facts straight because you end up sounding stupid like floyd.

MR FLINT,

I like the fact that people can post there comments and have healthy debates. People get a little heated when they are having debates which is understandable. But the thing that I don’t get is when these people start insulting everybody because they feel safe behind their computer. Everyone has their own opinion and can express them without insulting everybody, but i’m going to defend myself. KEN you’re an internet gangster. You feel like King Kong in front of that screen. But i’m going to let you have your little slick talk because you remind me of a woman that talks a whole lot trash to her man because she knows he’s not going to do anything to her because she’s a female. If you’re bored then go to a site that doesn’t bore you. HAVE A GOOD DAY YOUNG LADY.

@Bill Brad

Thats the way blood testing work. You have them take the test before they fight so you can catch them cheating before they fight. Don’t look at this like baseball or football where you have a season to catch someone. You test them randomly.

@frank:

lol..he is a weight cheater huh.. ok you retire from a sport for almost 2 years. Then you decide to come back and fight a guy who is probably 20lbs lighter then what you are while you are retired.. I dont care what type of exercises you are doing while you are retired. Its going to be hard to drop 20lbs in 3 months regardless.

@Ken and Haku313
Can you 2 behave-so immature.Neither of you seem to know much,however Cotto’s footwork was pretty impressive in the Mosley fight allowing him to apply the jab effectively and Leonard was not robbed!Ken you need to listen more instead of insulting people.

NO MORE MAYWEATHER VS PACQUIAO BECAUSE MOSLEY WILL WIN ON MAY 1ST. PACQUIAO VS MOSLEY WILL GENERATE MILLIONS OF PPV, IT IS MORE EXCITING FIGHT TO WATCH COZ NO RUNNING AROUND THE RING.

Mayweather would never fight Pacquiao when the later is well trained without the disruption of the weakening blood test If ever they are going to meet in the ring Floyd will weight over the limit or Manny weak/not properly trained due to blood test.
As always Floyd being Floyd.Win at all cost,even if it will cost
somebody to tarnish a good reputation,like Manny.

KEN-

That was actually with the whole caps lock thing. Youre a funny guy. Look Duran was a good fighter, not a great fighter. The comparison is the to the ability they have compared to the other fighters of there era. Duran racked up 70+ wins against the same types of fighters. Slow, straight forward fighters with bad footwork. Now, if cant speak facts just shut the hell up! And you still didnt answer my question. Who has Pacquaio faced with good footwork?! STUPID!!!!!!!!

Haku313,Benetez result is my mistake but everything else i stand by.Don’t be so idiotic to refer to Duran as “nothing more than” cause you simply show your ignorance.Now put your knickers back on,take the caps lock off then fu@+ off!

KEN-

DURAN IS THE SAME GUY WHO DESTROYED SLOW FIGHTERS WITH BAD FOOTWORK JUST LIKE PACQUIAO. BUT, GOT BLASTED BY BENITEZ. FACED AN OLD HAGLER AND STILL LOST. GOT BLASTED BY LEORNARD TWICE(TKO AND KO), AND GOT BLASTED HEARNS! SO LIKE I SAID PACQUAIO IS NOTHING MORE THAN A MODERN DAY ROBERTO DURAN. CLOWN!!!!!!!!! NOW SHUT THE HELL UP STUPID….

to ALL of the people that continually say that because mayweather came into ONE fight weighing two lbs overweight and he has a HISTORY of comming into fights overweight because of that…..can you PLEASE be consistent with that position and let us know that since Manny Pacquiao has been KO’ed TWICE in his career that he has a HISTORY of getting KTFO??????

Now on the Blood testing issue. First, Manny claims to be afraid of needles. Then, he said he’ll take the random blood test as long as USADA doesnt perform the test. Mayweather agrees to let use another agency, then Pacquaio says blood tests make him weak and he doesnt want blood drawn close to the fight. So Mayweather say fine and proposes a 14 day cut off. Pacquaio then says he’ll only take the test if the Nevada Commission says he has to. I mean C’mon people! Defending pacquiao at this point is like defending President Bush and the whole weapons of mass destrustion issue. Some of you need to Wake up! PACQUAIO IS NOTHING BUT BOXINGS VERSION OF MCGWIRE OR BONDS! AND BY THE NEITHER OF THEM EVER TESTED POSITIVE EITHER…..

Jake defend your argument without your racist vile.

Pacman may be the man now but before the first Morales fight he would not have even been thought of. i watched that fight with Morales and Pacman didn’t look drained at all. He just didn’t have the power to knock him out. Pacman hit him with some good shots too. Then he comes back and beats the hell out of Morales in the 2nd and 3rd fight and didn’t stop winning after that. Now on the outside looking in, how does a fighter do that? Like Mayweather said you don’t start off as a good fighter and then turn into an unstoppable force. Manny makes me raise an eyebrow. Manny lost the 1st fight with Morales and it wasn’t even close. If Manny looked fatigued or weak then i would say that the blood test did affect him but his movements were the same, his punching style was the same and he didn’t seem tired because he was conditioned. After that fight he walked through punches and hit harder than he ever did. That’s suspicious! I feel Manny was determined not to lose again and i don’t care how much training he did it would have no way in hell made him comeback in there and make Morales look like a guy that just walked in the gym for the 1st time after he just whooped his ass in the 1st fight.From then on Manny has been dominating. True fighters want you to know he’s the best because he’s gifted not because he’s taking some substance. Manny knew he couldn’t beat Morales so what ever he did worked and he didn’t fight Morales or any other fighter any different than he fought Morales in the first fight. So why did it work after that and knocked him out on top of that. When Lennox Lewis and Hasim Rahman had there 1st fight, Lewis was winning but Rahman caught him with one lucky shot and knocked him out. When they fought the 2nd time, the fight was the same as the 1st fight but Rahman didn’t get in a lucky shot so Rahman got his ass whooped. Without the lucky shot in the 1st fight he would have lost that fight because Lewis was always better than him. That didn’t happen with Pacman and Morales. Morales was better than Pacman so how did Pacman beat a fighter with the exact same style which he got his ass beat when he used it in the 1st fight. For Roach to say the fight isn’t going to take place if Mayweather insist on having a random drug test is suspicious also. You can say it’s pride if you want but Roach see’s how Manny’s followers like that excuse and it sounds good so that’s what he’s going with. What Mayweather needs to do is put in his contract something that has nothing to do with taking a blood test and something that’s not in the Nevada commission rules and I bet they’ll agree to it because it doesn’t jeopardize Manny getting caught even though it’s not in the rules. Manny doesn’t care that Mayweather is trying to dictate drug testing. What he cares about is the request itself no matter who’s asking for it. If the Nevada Commission puts the blood test in the rules then there definitely won’t be a fight because he knows he’s going to lose without help. Bottomline is if Manny takes the test then there’s a fight if not then there isn’t. Manny doesn’t care about you followers of his because if he did he would take the test so that you can see your Champ fight one of the best fighters in the world.

Your defending floyd becuase he agreed to the 10 mil fine and Manny would not agree to the drug test but here is the difference. If Floyld makes weight which he should have no problem doing he would never have to pay the fine it wouldn’t matter if he had to pay a 100 mil. But Manny would have to take the blood tests before the fight. See the difference?

His whole Mayweather family is shielding Floyd Jr’s. legacy from someone who has a legitimate shot at ending everything that defines Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Just imagine the name Floyd Jr. is in the Webster Dictionary at the moment. The definition is exactly what it is.

Now Manny Pacquiao rewrites the meaning. What will define Floyd Jr. then?

The loss has greater consequence than just being a number one on his record.

ONLY CHEATERS DONT WANT FULLY RANDOM TESTING

The Bottom-line regarding the $10ml penalty clause demand is based on the FACT Mayweather has already violated a contracted weight agreement.

Where’s the FACT Pac is/was on PED’s?

Seriously… Where are the FACTUAL evidence that Pac is on PED’s?

You need to observe the reasoning behind the clauses in the contract before trying to make it look like a fair deal, Manny’s clause protects him from fighting a known weight cheat when facing a smaller man,Mayweather’s clause is a disgraceful attempt to weaken Manny psychologically knowing that giving blood affects his performance. Mayweather believed he would get away with it and Manny would sign knowing how much money is involved,but unfortunately for Mayweather Manny doesn’t need the money ether, it seems from Mayweather’s recent rant he refuses to fight Manny unless he gets his advantage. Manny did the right thing walking, there’s no proof that Manny isn’t clean, the only dark shadows have been cast by the Mayweathers this type of behavior stinks of fear to me.

Yes, yes, I know Da PacMan is “on” something: it’s what gives him superhuman strength and power. What PacMan does is gobble up a can of spinach just like Popeye, and…my, oh my -the stuff packs his fists with the power of a pile driver. No wonder Chicken Floyd’s scared of him!

Hey Mr. writer, you need to leave this issue alone! You need to write something different, for this issue is all about propaganda. This is old stuff!

Visit Pacland and read what Scoop Malinowski of Boxing insider wrote about Floyd talking his way over to Manny Pacquiao,an associate of Harmon the adviser of Floyd revealed to Malinowski way back in December that they dont want Pacquiao to knock out Floyd coz there is no way Floyd could win the fight and the name of the guy is George Peterson this is a shocking revealation if there is no rebuttal of this those who believe Floyd excuses are out of reality.

Thanks for the breaking news roach thats the same thing your camp has said since the fight fell apart. Every day both camps say the same things its getting horribly redundant. Your not gonna figth each other we get it.

@bogsy:

Share what you just said with some of your other Mayweather haters.. Bc u just said alot. Thats what Floyd has been saying all along. Floyd has the US backing him for the most part and all he wants to fight is people with atleast the same number as follower as him.. Its about the money.. So, that the answer to why he didn’t want to fight many american fighters. He has america already. Besides he sells tickets bc people want to see him loose. Manny(philipines) vs cotto (PR)= 1.25 million ppv. Floyd(USA) vs Marquez (Mexico)= 1 million. My point is you don’t have the entire USA backing Floyd and he and Marquez sold 1 million. PacMan and Cotto has their entire country backing them and they only sold 1.25million. Don’t forget Floyd had just came back from retirement. His last two fights were a combined 3.4 million ppv. Mannys last 2 fights just over 2 million. Mannys last three fights close to 3 million. So, you tell me who is a better attraction. Don’t forget Floyd and Marquez also fought on the same night as UFC 103 and they out sold them.

Of course he won’t.

RayTheA says:

Can’t help but admire Floyd for being savvy & a good boxer; however I don’t want him to be a role model for my children.

This is a boxing website and not a parenting site. You must be a role model to your children and not delegate parenting to boxers you don’t know. I assume Pacman is your role model that you want your kids to look up to. What if he is really juicing. You are not in control of that. Be a man and achieve things that will make your kids to look up to you and not strange boxers from I don’t know where.

“If their cool with the $10 million dollar fine, then they should be just as cool with blood testing.”

2 things:

1) Mayweather HAS a track record of coming into fights overweight against smaller guys i.e. Marquez.

2) Pacquiao does NOT have any track record of steroid use.

Come on Teban,pick on Margarito,Julio Cesar Chavez Jr and even pretty boy Oscar who were all caught using banned substance (pain reliever).You et al want the Pac loose because of your racist tendencies.You just can’t accept an Asian on the center stage of professional boxing.Bet me your boy FMJ will be knock out by Mosley and will see if his mouth is still fast as his hands as you believed.

I started to laugh when the writer said at the last sentence “This can’t be a one-way street when you’re dealing with a STAR as big as Mayweather.” As I can recall the bigger star is the one who was named the best P4P fighter in the world..which is clearly Manny Pacquiao. Manny, the man who was named Man of the Year by Time Magazine, and also made the cover. Won boxer of the year 3 times in a row. Won the best Knock out of the year…ask Ricky Hatton. And just names fighter of the decade by the Boxing Writers Of America Association, the same people who vote for the boxing Hall Of Fame. Just reading that statement, the writer is clearly a Floyd mole. Trying to inject Floyd propaganda.

The $10 million per pound over is very justified considering Floyd’s unsportsmanship for coming in over the agreed catchweight with JMM who was clearly overmatched and undersized compared to Floyd. Floyd who refused to accept Mosely’s call out but accepted lightweight fighter JMM call out which Floyd shouldn’t have taken because he has no business fighting a guy who is 3 weight divsion smaller than him. Instead of accepting the fight with Mosley who is in his weight division, Floyd took the smaller fighter. This is the same Floyd who said that he went up in weight to fight the best fighters because he already cleaned out the super featherweight division, lightweight division, light welterweight division, and even welterweight division. Floyd’s last fight before JMM was at light middleweight. Why in the hell would Floyd take a fight from a fighter who is not even directly below the last fight division he fought and a fighter who clearly was at his best at lightweight. IMO, Golden Boy who represents JMM, told JMM to call out Floyd for his comeback fight and Floyd would accept it. It was a set up from the start. While Manny, the opponents he fought, he came in either lighter than the agreed catchweight and practically every fighter he fought were either the same size or bigger. He didn’t take any fighters who were smaller than him. You can’t say that about Floyd Jr.

mannys camp only ask floyd 10million $ penalty when floyd camps ask for bloodtest,he say 24days and right after the fight then floyd demanded for 14 days ,bloodtesting should be done and ruled by the NASC and not by any boxers,mannys blood taken on morales fight was a surprise a not expected bec he already submit his blood but the outcome of the test lost thats he undergo a bloodtest again and not ready so if his taking any enhancement drug he should be positive,floyd camps know that manny become affected by withdrawing of blood close to the fight thats why they ask for it.they knew that the fight will never materialized that way they keep on pushing that test.thev truth is never want to fight manny bec that will be the end of his carrer not only that no one will ever recognize him as an atg.

Mr. Garduno, you are missing the point when you equate penalty for overweight with the method of drug testing. The first one is not within the jurisdiction of the boxing commission (and therefore should be agreed upon by both parties) while drug testing is within the jurisdiction of the commission. What really peeves the Pacquiao camp is Mayweather’s demand for blood testing which is outside of the requirement of the NSAC. Mayweather should present his case to the NSAC and if the commission finds his recommendation for random blood testing as valid and good for boxing then I don’t see any reason why they won’t adopt it. For as long as Mayweather acts as though he is over and above the boxing commission, I think that a fight with Pacquiao will not materialize. And now Mayweather is set to demand a bigger share of the prize money se this further puts another obstacle to a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight.

@the author about the 10mil overweight contract.
has mayweather ever been into a fight over its limit on weigh in, let alone the fight night?
has there been proof that pacquiao was on roids, not just racist remarks about a struggling country?

Floyd agreed to a fight at pre-determined weight when he fought Marquez. He had no intention of making the weight that he agreed to fight at in order to give himself even more of an advantage. This action warranted the request by Manny for a $10 million fine for ever pound over because if he was to pull that same sh*t again, he should have to pay for it. $100,000 per lb wouldn’t do it, he gave up a few hundred thousand with JMM without blinking an eye. There was a legit reason for Manny requesting it. On the other hand. Manny has never tested positive PED’s….ever. Nobody has come forth to testify that he sold, witnessed, or helped inject Manny with steroids. The fact that a former (not sure about the former part) drug addict, convicted felon, and high school drop out (Floyd Sr.) said it, doesn’t make it so! So insisting on testing beyond what is required by all boxers by the commission is B.S. In short…PBF had a history of going over weight for the advantage, Pacquiao has no history of using PED’s. PBF doesn’t deserve to fight Pacquiao, but he does deserve the ass whoopin’. Regardless of what PBF thinks Pac doesn’t need him…he needs Pac.

Was Freddie Roach coaching or training James Toney when TONEY got caught using steriod . if that is true would Freddie Roach do the same to Pacquiao ??

if Manny is such a stand up guy then he should prove to his fans and the world that he earned all of his wins with hard work and dedication. You know the bad thing about this whole thing is that Manny is just saying trust me! You can agree with him just because you love him if you want to but you should be saying Manny take the test so that you can go in there and whoop Mayweather. But ya’ll love Manny so much that you don’t even want to know or care if he’s clean or not. There’s gotta be some reason that Mayweather wants to take blood up to 14 days before the fight and it’s a reason why Manny won’t do it. That comment about Manny is freaked out by needles is crazy. Why would Manny still be thinking about a damn needle 2 weeks ago. MAN PLEASE! Both of those camps must know that more can be detected with blood than urine and they both must know the time frame in which you can get it out of your system or Mayweather wouldn’t have asked and Manny wouldn’t have declined. He’ll take it 24 days before the fight but not 14. C’mon man that’s strange has hell. And remember that Floyd has to take the test also. Why is Floyd and Mosely willing to take the tests but not Pacquio. I feel like Manny is disappointing everyone. He’s humble, he’s nice and he’s a good guy but he won’t take a blood test 14 days before the fight for his fans to see him fight Floyd Mayweather. That’s odd as hell. That sounds like something that the bad guy would do because the bad guy is always being a dirty fighter. People act like they sits in Pacquo’s living room and they hang out with him like he’s your friend. You don’t know this guy and if he’s not willing to prove it to the people that support him then he’s not People’s Champ, he’s the champ for Pacquio. IT’S A BLOOD TEST PACQUIO NOT SURGERY. What it boils down to is Mayweather, Mosely and i’m pretty sure that there are other great fighters out there willing to prove to there fans that they are clean but the nice guy that everybody loves, Pacquio won’t. I don’t know if he’s on any drugs or not but he’s not going to prove it. That’s crazy!

Ryan Dunn, the truth.

no kidding he came in over weight. it doesnt change the fact its a clause they wanted, just like mayweather has his clause that nevada doesnt require. whats the difference??

@ jordanww. please do yourself a favor and dont comment on this article. “the doctor might be fake”? wth. do you think there running a mickey mouse show with the testing? seriously might be the dumbest it i ever heard.

1. pacquiao ko clottey
2. mayweather split decision vs mosley
3. cotto beats foreman for the middle weight belt
4. pacquiao vs mayweather didnt work out
5. margarito comes back
6. margarito defeats cotto for the belt
7. pacquiao and valero creates fireworks but pacquiao comes out with ko
8. mayweather defeats paul williams with split decision
9.pacquiao mayweather finally happens.each gets 60 million purse.
10. pacquiao looses from mayweather
11. pacquiao is about to retire
12. pacquiao battles margarito and wins the belt
13. pacquiao creates history
14.den manuel perez, liam santiago, dave lahr, and more looses there job because pacquiao retires

Man you Mayweather robots are going to look stupid after May 1st.Win or lose,Mosely’s gonna show you guys exactly how floyd stacks up against fighters like Cotto,Margarito and Clotty.He’s going to look completly ordinary.Eventually boxing does not lie. And remember the guy he’s fighting is 38 YEARS OLD. Yeah let’s see how he looks after May 1st. Keep talkin. It won’t be long.

FREDDY IS A HIPOCRIT A FIGHTER HAS MORE RIGHT THAN THE COMMISSION TO ASK FOR THE TEST HE’S THE ONE GOING IN THE RING.I FIGURE FREDDY FOR THE TIPE OF TRAINER THAT WOULD RESPECT A FIGHERS CHOICE.IT GOES LIKE THIS PROTECT YOUR SELF AT ALL TIMES AT ALL TIMES IN THE RING AND EXPECIALLY OUT,THE CARNIL RULE…..THE COMMISSION NOW THAS REAL FUNNY!!!

@ tobol. it was a clause pacman wanted regardless if its a penalty or not. Nevada commission doesnt penalize fighters 10 million for coming over weight. Give me a break this guy didnt want the testing to go to 14 days prior to the fight, as if the couple of tablespoons will really hurt the guy what a joke. Just like manny wants to make sure mayweather doesnt come in over weight, floyd wants to make sure he’s fighting a clean dude. whats the big deal?

This is a great article. I don’t think the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight will ever happen. People can say whatever they want about the situation… but it will always be Manny who wouldn’t take a simple blood test for a fight. It will be him that looks like he is dodging…. and hiding something. In the future I sure hope that testing is mandatory by the athletic commissions and I believe it will be. Shame on Manny.

Well Freddie Roach is just acting hard because Mayweather started pushing buttons. Mayweather is now saying blood test up to the day of the fight, and a 65/35 split in his favor, or no fight. So Roach is pretty much saying f*ck you. What do you expect him to say?

As far as Manny needs to fight Floyd to get his biggest payday, uh, Floyd needs to fight Manny to get his biggest payday too, that comment doesn’t make sense.

BTW, lex get off Floyd’s nuts.

ay tobol

u can say the way pacmans camp has acted n all the excuses is a good reason to think hes roidin up.

u know alot of athletes adamently denied using ped’s. mark mcguire, barry bonds, a-rod, marion jones, montgomery. and then at the end it turns out they did.

u know manny wants to go threw the same tests that sugar shane mosely passed everytime he tok when he was roidin up.

TAKE THE DRUG TEST MANNY. STEROIDS FREAK!! LEX UR 100% RIGHT PAC IS SCARED OF SHANE TO FIGHT HIM AT CATCH WEIGHT 140 65-35 SPLIT, ROACH TURN DOWN MOSLEY TWICE. AS FAR SHANE AND FLOYD, THEY ARE BOTH GREAT FIGHTERS, ITS GONA BE A GREAT ONE. HOPE FLOYD PULLS IT OFF.

are you an idiot??the $10mil dollar clause is a penalty, it is an additional clause on top of the weight agreement, a penalty is a fine for not adhering to an agreement, the blood testing is an agreement, they can put a penalty aside from the agreement, floyd is known to break agreements as with marquez, he purposely went overweight, its but natural to put a penalty to someone who deliberately breaks it, what about pac? is there a history of him failing a drug test?bobo!!