Pacquiao interested in unification bout against Mosley
February 5th, 2010
By Esteban Garduno: World Boxing Organization welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao is reportedly interested in fighting a unification bout against WBA welterweight champion Shane Mosley in July, according to the Manila Times. Pacquiao believes that Mosley will beat Mayweather on May 1st, the Times reports. It’s unknown, however, whether Pacquiao will be interested in fighting a unification bout against Mayweather if he beats Mosley in their fight.
Pacquiao thinks that Mosley will be putting a lot of pressure on Mayweather in his fight, saying to the Boxinghistorian “Shane like [me] will force pressure on Floyd for every minute of every round.” This is probably true, but Mosley generally does well against more stationary fighters and struggles against opponents that move a lot around the ring.
Mayweather tends to move a great deal, and Mosley may fight it tough to get his shots in if Mayweather isn’t there for him to hit or grab. The same thing applies for Pacquiao. If you look at his opponents for the past two years, with the exception of Juan Manuel Marquez, Pacquiao has been fed fighters with little movement that come straight at him making it easy for Pacquiao to dominate them with his speed. Pacquiao hasn’t been put in with fighters with good movement like Mayweather, Mosley and Timothy Bradley or ones that throw a lot of punches likes Paul Williams.
Pacquiao will be facing Joshua Clottey on March 13th, a fighter that tailor made for Pacquiao in the same mode as Hatton and Miguel Cotto. It’s a good case of match making by Pacquiao’s promotional company Top Rank and his trainer Freddie Roach. Clottey is a beatable fighter, at 32, who has serious problems with his work rate, stamina and his power. This is a fight that Pacquiao can win at welterweight. I can’t say the same things for Pacquiao’s chances against Mosley, Mayweather and Williams. I think all three of them will beat Pacquiao if given the chance.
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This is kind of a senseless article at this point, but it sure got a lot of hits!
I’m laughing at all the Pac haters saying they were carefully cherry picked. If that were the case, then why did the BWAA selected Manny as fighter of the decade? Yeah…cherry picked. You can say, he fought fighters and brought it on, none of that backing up. Toe to toe, mano y mano. He is there to fight, not put the audience to sleep. I also laugh at people even suggesting Williams to Manny, Williams is fcukin’ 6′2 and he should be fighting at middleweight or up to cruiser. Why would \Williams start fighting smaller guys. Even suggesting Manny who is 5′6 and has a 67 inch reach to fight Paul Williams is ludicrious. The disparaging height and reach advantage is even too much for Manny. What does Williams have in reach…78 inch I think. C’mon haters, at least when you guys are watching Manny fight, you guys are on your feet and eyes glued to the tv set. While Floyd, well you have to drink a couple of double shot espresso’s combined with some Red Bull just to keeping from sleeping while watching his fight.
come on boys come otta the closet!
i think lex fug, may mos, boxing fan etc… r all the same person!!! lol!
“Bang and runner”, as someone have wrote, referring to Floyd will win it by decision, boring…….. Freddie Roach & Pacquiao will again stand-up against Mayweather’s demand for Olympic testing so the next fight will be Pacquiao-Mosley unification. Again, “bang for bang” action between the #1 and #3 P4P fighters which is what the majority of the fans want to see. Floyd take a sit!
some one please explain to me how a fighter is FORCED to fight some one …its completly voluntary on both sides always has been…some fighters just take the easy way out ..if you have to defend a belt and dont want to , give up the belt …happens all the time..
if i were pac,i would double up on my steroids to fight mosley
Why the hell are they even talking about Mayweather-Mosley, aren’t they supposed to be busy with THE EVENT in Dallas? (snicker).
While Mayweather and Mosley are enjoying themselves doing promotional work in Miami during Super Bowl weekend, Pacquiao is in butt-fokk Dallas, talking about fighters not named Joshua Clottey, lol.
Who looks stupid now?
HELL no one could beat Pacquiao, the man that has speed, power, and stamina that last a hundred rounds.He is the only one who became a champion in seven different division, thats because of roach who design it perfectly with the help of his promoter Bob Aurum,No one could beat this guy,every body are afraid to fight him, he can not lose, AS LONG AS THEIRS NO BLOOD TEST, AND HE IS CLEAN??????????????????????
I keep hearing that its damn near impossible for Mayweather to stop Pac…which is very very funny to me because even though Pac moves a little bit he gets to excited and tries to put guys away(which is a good thing) but in Mayweather he would be fighting a guy who puts Defence first and uses the whole ring no matter who he’s fighting! Go back and watch May’s old fights…he always Boxed, threw a couple punches then turned his oppenent or slipped and into defence of mode! It didnt matter if they were smaller or bigger…he always figures a guy out and brings the fight pace back to how he wants it. Until Pac best a good boxer in their prime i will continue to only give him a punchers chance against the GREAT boxer(MAYWEATHER)! I know its beatin a dead horse but Morales spanked him and it wasn’t a prime Erik, and JMM spanked him! You don’t knock a guy down 3 times and come out with a draw…that was an early X-mas gift!
Yeah
Blacks are scum
Manny is quality and i am a fan of both him and floyd. The thing is the only way i see manny winning is if floyd stands and trades and he wont do it because its not his style. Manny is smaller than floyd who has a 72inch reach which is alot against a smaller fighter with only a 67inch reach. I think floyd would pick manny off and people will be surprised, i think mosley is the harder fight for mayweather.
@ REAL BOXING FAN,Black american boxers are the biggest crybabbies on the planet! Always boo hoo cry me a river blacks this and blacks that! And not just the boxers its all of you wankers!!!
Pacquaios nothing and neither is mayweather to or mosley.
This is the match-up I really want to see. This has the promise of a truly great fight. Hope it happens…
Lex- and this is why I really appreciate your posts as opposed to nonsense like this from Bob…..”This is why I believe Margo team put Plaster in the wraps. I believe they wanted to make it a even fight”……….that has to be one of the most ridiculous statements that I have ever read in my life. Bob, if Margo knew that Shane was taking steroids for the fight, then why was he even fighting him to begin with??? Why would Margo risk his reputation and his livelihood but knowingly and willingly engaging in an illegal practice just to make the fight “even” with Mosely??? Why didnt Margo sound the alarm on Mosely after he got caught with loaded gloves, if he knew that Shane was still infact using PEDS???? And if Shane was still using PEDS for the Margo fight, then why did he confess years ago to taking it to begin with????
TO ALL MANNY FANS
Excerpt from article-
This is probably true, but Mosley generally does well against more stationary fighters and struggles against opponents that move a lot around the ring. The same thing applies for Pacquiao. If you look at his opponents for the past two years, with the exception of Juan Manuel Marquez, Pacquiao has been fed fighters with little movement that come straight at him making it easy for Pacquiao to dominate them with his speed. Pacquiao hasn’t been put in with fighters with good movement like Mayweather, Mosley and Timothy Bradley or ones that throw a lot of punches likes Paul Williams.
Translation
Shane Mosley beats up Mexican fighters and struggles with black fighters. If you look at Pacauaio past fights he only fought Mexicans. Mexicans come straight at him making it easy for Pacquio to dominate them with his speed. Manny has never fought a black fighter like Mayweather, Mosley and Timothy Bradley or Paul Williams or any other black top rank fighter to justify his claim as a great boxer.
you Pagman haters are all full of it just like this writer…Manny will beat either Mosley and Mayweather because he will be able to adjust to either one’s style in beating them. When he fights and becomes victorious over the winner of Mayweather/Mosley fight, then all of you will shut your mouth and realize Manny is in fact the greatest PFP fighter of this time and era..enuf said!
Lex-fugitive- dude, I must say that you put some of the most concise and best post on this blog. I am reading all of the responses about Manny being this and that…..which he does deserve the accolades for what he has accomplished. But, just as the Floyd haters always seem to try and diminish and minimize his accomplishments, Manny’s do come with a caveat too……and you have done an excellent job of pointing it out. I am gonna have to piggy-back some of your comments to another site, but I will definately give you your kudos. GREAT POSTS!!!!
M1 come on Floyd by stoppage that’s a joke. You just stated Floyd dosn’t exchange you have to exchange with Pacquiao to stop him. One Pot shot is not going to stop Manny. Mayweather dosn’t have one punch power unless he fights Hatton who runs into punches
Optimus I have to agree with you I believe Mosley has been using Roids and EPO since he jumped up from welter. This is why I believe Margo team put Plaster in the wraps. I believe they wanted to make it a even fight
Plasterwraps vs Roids. Now before someone Post this is not my theroy but The Margarito Team theory in my opinon.
optimus prime, or transformer fanatic, don’t say that if you lost to someone that means you’re nothing? no… remember a great muhammad ali lost to fraizer and ali beats foreman who beats fraizer. just realized that every fighter has every kind of style to beat their opponents. there’s some incidents that the kind of style their use is your weakness. a fighter who dominate and destroy all his great opponent is the one who deserve to be greatest of them all.
mosley vs berto contract was signed a day before the Pac vs Cotto fight… Mosley could have waited for the winner of Pac vs Cotto and he could have been selected …… Its not Pacs fault that the fight with Berto and Mosley did not push thru…. Money never wanted the fight wid Mosley but he got no other option….
Pacquiao always fight the winner if there’s no option he’s looking the next in line. Remember Pacquiao first fought Cotto instead on Mosley & Clottey. Both lost to Cotto. If Mayweather wins he’s the next in line if Mosley win then he fight him first. You’re a retard if you think Pacquiao will fight Mayweather if Floyd will loose to Shame. At least Pacquiao fights bigger than him. Mayweather always looking a bloated lightweight or smaller than him. Mosley said that Mayweather doesn’t want to fight him he was forced to fight him.
Mosley can’t win against Mayweather. He can’t pump himself up with steroids and PEDs like he did before. He can’t do that anymore with the random drug test stipulation. Maybe Pacquiao will fight Mosley after coming off a loss to Mayweather like what Pacuiao is doing now, fighting Clottey coming off a loss to Cotto.
leg-fug.
i wish i was as good a writer as you , seriously…im learning thou !! any how , like me you tell it like it is , and i like that ..the fans like us that still appreciate a great competitive fight are few and far between ..alot of these guys just want to see a knock out ..they could care less who is fighting..i like to see that too sometimes but i also like a good “chess match” of a fight as long as its copetitive…i hate to see lopsided fights period i guess is what im trying to say ..i dont think people should hate on floyd ..if they dont like em then dont buy the fight !! go watch manny p. destroy his b level opponent on ppv..
Manny struggles against good counter punchers and they don’t come any better than Floyd. He hasn’t fought anyone even as remotely quick as Floyd.
Phoocquiao regarding your 3 knockdown statement comparing Pacquiao to Mayweather. Fine, Mayweather was fighting a smaller guy, but lets not forget that at the time Marquez was probably considered by many as the best counter puncher in the world and before Floyd came out of retirement and rated right up in the PFP rankings. He landed 12% of his power shots against Floyd. He landed 37% against Pacquiao. Mayweather’s extra weight in the fight would actually have been a disadvantage in terms of being hit – a larger fighter is slower around the ring. That’s maths, you can’t argue with that. Despite this he still evaded the best counter puncher in the world for a full 12 rounds, easily. Clearly the arguement that counters this is that Marquez is a smaller guy with a shorter reach and I’d argree against Mayweather this is one advantage you just can’t give him and expect to win. Lets not forget Pacquiao’s smaller too. Floyd ain’t going to get beaten by a smaller guy at this stage of his career with the defensive skills he’s got. Curiously enough Jim Watt actually made a point I found myself agreeing with for a change – pacquiao won’t find his rhythm against Floyd. You can’t if you’re chasing ghosts all night. Pacquiao only knocks out guys who stand in front of him and engage which we all know isn’t Floyds style. Floyd on points or late stoppage. Manny won’t land enough to make the dent he needs.
Steven Steagal visits Pacman on his home in LA said hes a big fan of Pacman while Pacman also grew up as a big fan of steven’s movies. Pacman can’t believe he met his idol and so is Steagal.
Again, Mosley came into Roach’s gym on two different occassions and asked him to let him fight Manny. both times Roach told him no because there wasn’t enough money there and because he was too good. Yes, Roach is quoted as refusing to have Manny fight Mosley because Mosley is too good. And we’re supposed to believe that now that’s changed? The only thing that changed is that people see his rival Floyd Mayweather taking on the best while Manny is scared of the best. So instead of actually getting in the ring with Mayweather or Mosley Manny and Roach just talk about them.
mrsweetsci;
Yes and the fact is their were numerous articles written about how poor they looked in doing so. So Manny fought a lot of fighters who were already considered washed up. thats a fact. And no one will make an excuse about Clottey, he is a B grade fighter to begin with. I give Manny credit, he has come to his matches prepared and has very carefully cherry-picked his opponents. Looking at Manny’s history he will fight the loser of May 1 and not the winner. Hopefully Manny changes his ways and takes on the winner, but I doubt it.
when the fight does happen take it to wembley
@Noynoy (nut-hugger)… don’t be a retard like the name you profess to be… LOL! But then again, maybe, you just can’t help your self.
@ Noynot…
WRong. Roach mentioned having those fights at those weights.
As far as JMM. Why wouldn’t they make Marquez come up to fight Manny? He came up to 144 to fight Mayweather and apparently JMM in Pacquiao’s Khryptonite. Besides, Pac is the draw.
@ simon..
i’m thinking who that is….
You’re serious?
Pacquioa mentioned catchweights for:
Cotto
Foreman
Mosley
Mayweather
Heck, they even mentioned wanting JMM to come UP to 145 if he wanted a trilogy.
hey lex_f….the fact is all of them won before they fought manny. c’mon lex please don’t make anymore excuses. manny wasn’t voted by the BWAA for nothing, right?
@ Poor noynoys
There is nothing illegal to include a catchweight provision in the contract. It’s an accepted norm in boxing. Better be in a “catchweight” than coming in the fight “overweight”. Does this remind you of someone lately?
@ noynot
And that still beats mayweather’s last gate that was in Vegas against a more popular fighter in JMM.
@ Noynoys
So who did he ask to fight at a catch-weight? Mosely, who offered to come down? Freddie who talked about asking Floyd for a catch-weight but didn’t? Come on bro, you’re a joke.
@ RBF
only one catch-weight joker. The same amount the great Sugar Ray Leonard fought in, Fact. The DLH fight was his first official welterweight fight, Fact. Manny floored Marquez three more times than Mayweather and he didn’t need to cheat on the scales, Fact. You’re an idiot, educated guess.
simon;
Actually any boxing fan knows who andre ward is. He is a well known super-middleweight and has a real chance of winning the Super Six. And I realize since you don’t know who ward is you probably don’t know what the Super six is either or much about boxing, but its never too late to become a real fan. Now would be a great time to start too; it should be a very exciting year. In addition to the Super Six and Mayweather-Mosley, Pavlik-Martinez and Williams-Cintron look to be happening. And Valero is fighting on Showtime tomorrow night. Boxing is actually a great sport and if you give it a chance you might be surprised how much you like it Simon
AHAHAH, you really think the Dallas is sold out?
LOL, I just got on Ticketmaster and had no problems getting a $100 seat. The only seats that are sold out are the $50 nosebleeds,most of which were scooped up by resellers and ticket brokers.
I guess not too many people wanted to go shopping at Wal-Mart after the fight?
Manny Pacquiao was voted “th fighter of the decade”…thats it.
Nice try but you can’t avoid the fact that Floyd has asked for a catchweight how many times?
Versus how many times has Woman-ny Pacquiao demanded a catchweight?
It’s not even close, Pacquiao is the KING of asking for catchweights.
@poor noynoys
Have you just resurrected from the dead? You seem to be talking as if you just came out from the grave.
What happened to THE EVENT? – Well, I’m guessing all the tickets are sold out now. Remember 20,000+- tickets sold in the first few days. For sure, the tickets won’t go on sale unlike PBF vs. JMM fight.
So…whats the need for Pacquiao to take drugs? I am sure you think he didnt take them.
He just made a good point and i just wanted it to be repeated. Manny is a decent fighters. Im done with this back and forward. Manny is scared to take a blood test and fights at catch weights facts. He fights left over fighters past their primes fact. He will not beat Clottey opinion. This will be he’s first official welterweight fight fact. Manny lost more rounds to Marquez in two fights fact. Mayweather made Marquez look like a lil kid fact. Manny vs Clottey will be Manny first real test since Marquez opinion.
Good catch Phooc…you have good eyes and memory. Hmmn..copy and pasting lex_F earlier version. Real BF, now I’ll call you Real Copy Cut.
@ poor noynoys
Catch-weight? It only comes up because that’s all you haters wanna talk about. You seem to forget that Manny and Floyd have fought in the same amount of catch-weight fights. 1.
Unify what belt? You mean the Welterweight belt that Manny didn’t have at the time?
And what the hell fight manager would throw Manny Pacquiao at Shane Mosley when he’d only had one fight above 140? That would have been poor fighter management.
@ real boxing fan…
Copy and pasting other people’s posts is very un-becoming and proof that you have no argument.
So what if those people were shot or lost. It’s not just the victory, it’s how you win.
I don’t understand, if You are a “real boxing fan” then why oh why would you hate on Pacquiao? He fights whoever is put in front of him and as of late, he dominates them. He gives the fans what they want and he never disrespects or trash talks to any fighter. He smiles on his way to the ring and goes to war. Seriously, what’s not to like about this guy?
You can try to discredit him all you want, but the people who’s opinions matter give Manny all the credit that you won’t. Fighter of the year 3 out of 4 years. And fighter of the decade. Am I to believe that these people, who make a living on watching and writing about boxing, suddenly do not know what they are talking about? Yeah right.
You’re argument fails on every level, and while Floyd may have had a better career at the lower weights than Manny did, the opposite would appear to be true since they have both moved up. Floyd is the champion of absolutey nothing and he will retire with no belts and go home and do nothing because without boxing, he is nothing.
BTW. I should add that when it comes to what Floyd does in the ring, I am a huge fan of his. When he is in the ring. I just can’t respect all the B.S that he does outside of it.
@ Real Boxing Fan
Right at the butt, did I not tell you I don’t want to waste my time answering your question. If you understood what you have written, your are not at all asking questions but instead you’re drawing a conclusion and therfore what’s there to answer for.
And Ward who? You’re probably the only person who knows him. He still needs to drink a lot of milk before he can land at the boxing history book. No offence to your idol but seriously, he’s not on the level yet of the boxing greats. Tell him to keep working on.
LOL, they want some more of Mayweather’s sloppy seconds. First DLH, then Hatton, now Mosley.
Hell, they had a shot at Mosley last year, Shane even offered to come down below 147, but Roach demanded a 142 catchweight (lol, there’s that word again, catchweight, funny how you can’t talk about Woman-ny Pacquiao without the word catchweight popping up all the time).
Now these two monkeys are trying to stay relevant after Mayweather-Mosley was announced by talking about fighting Mosley….who they conveniently COULD have fought LAST year – and oh, it would have been a unification bout too, since Shane had the belt back then as well.
What happened to ‘The EVENT’ in Dallas? LOL. Didn’t take long for interest in that to die a quick death.
@ Real boxing Fan.
and your point? 154 and he was still far removed from his best years and still won on one judges scorecard.
Judah beat Pac? What, did Judah’s jaw suddenly get better? Did he learn to not gas out half way through a fight? No? Then he has no chance.
A look at some of the opponents for Manny and Floyd. Look at this and tell me who avoids fighters at the top of their game and who cherry-picks. No way Manny fights the winner of May 1.
Manny:
Barerra I- Barrera was coming off head surgery and had to leave Big bear in the middle of training due to wild fires
Barerra II-Had two razor thin wins over Rocky Juarez and a lost to JMM in his previous fight
Morales I- Morales was coming off a loss to Barrera
Morales II & III- Morales coming off another loss, this time to some guy named Rahim.
ODLH- coming off a fight against Forbes at 150 where Oscar’s trainer stated how making weight effected him negatively and many articles reporting how Oscar’s best days were behind him
Hatton- Hatton had some unimpressive victories after getting dominated for 10 rounds before being knocked out a year and a half before
Cotto- It was well documented how Cotto appeared to have lost speed, reflexes, stamina and his chin appeared weaker after a devasting knockout by Margarito
Clottey- Coming off a loss to Cotto
Floyd:
Hernandez-undeafeted at 130
Corrales-undefeated at the time
Castillo- undefeated at 135, hadn’t lost in four years
Judah- Had beat every WW he fought at time contract was signed
Baldomir- Hadn’t lost in the 8 years that he actually trained for fights and didn’t have to sell feather dusters door-to-door and catch his own fish for food to eat
ODLH- Past his prime, but at Oscar’s best weight, 154
Hatton- Undefeated at the time and thought to have the best chance of any fighter to beat Floyd
Mosley- The top weltwerweight coming off an impressive KO over Margarito
Phoocquiao,
Marquez was too much for Manny
Phoocquiao,
fight he fought Oscar at 145. This is a weight that Oscar hasn’t been at since 1997. All of these fighters except Judah came off impressive wins. And Judah will kill Manny now at any weight.
Seriously, who cares if someone lost a fight a couple fights before fighting Pacquiao. Is that Pac’s fault that fighters lose? No.
The point is, he’s not just beating these guys, he’s destroying them. Manny is not someone who has been fighting at welter for years and then fought these guys. He made a career fighting smaller men and then went on to dominate bigger men. Men who should not have been dominated by the little Filipino.
Would Marquez make DLH quit on his stool, knock Hatton cold in the second, or floor Miguel Cotto twice before making him retreat for five and a half rounds? There’s no way in hell that would happen.
Furthermore, if you watch the Top Rank PPV broadcast of the Pac-Diaz fight, the announcers were saying that Pac’s best days may have been behind him. They spent the rest of the fight expressing how impressed they were in the improvements Manny has made to his game.
Come on man, stop hatin.
youre all crack, yes he is good but i wont kiss him, ican hug him but to kiss no way, mustache..ewww
Landing 85 more punches when throwing 106 less then your opponent is what any boxing fan would call impressive. thats what floyd did to Oscar. Hatton was supposed to have a better shot than anyone else at beating Floyd. He also refused to come to the states to fight floyd at 140 when floyd fought at that weight. And dominating the final 8 rounds is normally impressive. Oscar and hatton were both supposed to have the best chance of beating Floyd when Floyd fought them. And Mosley is now, Whens the last time Manny took on the toughest challenger? Mosley and Mayweather and Williams are the three best at 147 and Bradley is at 140. And going by opponents not fighting afterwards, that would make Berbick the toughest opponent Ali ever fought. The reason people keep fighting after they fight Floyd is because they aren’t already washed-up. Again Judah was the undisputed WW champ and had beat every WW when Floyd signed to fight him. Baldomir hadn’t lost in 8 years! Hatton was undefeated! Floyd doesn’t wait for fighters to look bad before fighting them, while Manny does.
yah, am willing to kiss him where ever he wants to. he my hero and my idol..you are a gay charlie..dont kiss him
i love manny pacquiao so much…. muahhhh
SIMON,
you just told me that you don’t follow boxing. Andre Ward WBA CHAMPION. Number one ranked super middle weight in the world. Im wasting my time talking to you. Mannys last four fighters are done. They were done before they fought him. That is my point. David Diaz just wasn’t good tho. But you can’t tell me Cotto Hatton or OdLh best days are a head of them. You can’t say the same thing about any other fighter in boxing. Every other fighter fights guys on there way up except Manny. Pick a fighter and tell me who doesn’t
Simon;
Floyd’s not relevant?? All the PPV buys in his 21 month absence combined was less than Floyd’s previous 2 fights. This included 3 Manny Pacquiao fights. Floyd came back and got over a million PPVs against someone Pac barely got 400,000 against. Floyd was the last lineal champ at 147. Floyd has fought great fighters and actually fought them in their prime and didn’t wait until they already looked washed up. He’s 40-0. So you can say Floyd isn’t relevant but the people that buy fights say otherwise. Williams is also relevant at 147 and didn’t have a dance partner when Manny walked away from Floyd. Like a normal Pactard when asked to back up your opinion with any facts you just yell Manny is great.
imo, the last 4 people u are pertaining to decided to rest after pac made them realize.
how about floydie? how long has he been a welter? 4-5 years? any top welter on his menu? and should not be facing any real welter have not berto pull out.
its funny in that article gbp ,said that he was going to get the fax in a few hours,then the next day he wAS GOING TO MAKE A FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT, that never came,only thing is mayweather said in another article that mosley dont have what it take to beat him.but he also said the same before this allege signing of the contract. hopefull not ,but
floyd all over the place I would not be surprise if ths fght is called off for some stupid reason.
@ Real(fake) Boxing Fan…
Oh yeah, cause Sharmba Mitchell, Carlos Baldomir, Zab Judah, DLH, and Hatton are all marquee names right now.
And furthermore, DLH and Hatton went on to continue fighting after Floyd. They didn’t after Manny. Need I say more?
And we all know how impressive it was on Floyd’s part to win a split decision over an old DLH, and even more impressive knocking out a guy in a weight that he didn’t belong in.
And and how can I forget about losing four rounds to a guy that had just come off a loss.
Yeah bro, That’s All Time Great material right there.
you know what, pac will never get the credit.
you know why?
let’s say, ssm and pbf went to battle and ssm beat the hell out of floydie, but still the great pbf won by most probably by a decision. And afterwards faces pac and but pbf loses. pac’s detractors will say, “pbf is not the same pbf after the ssm fight.
if ssm wins over pbf and fights pac and loses. anti-pac guys says, coz ssm is old and washed up.
hey esteban garduno, what do you really know about boxing? looks like you not even watching it!
Mr.sweetsci;
I meant either coming off a loss or an unimpressive win after a loss. These are the facts. Look when Manny fought the greats. After Forbes, Oscar was called shot and a shell of his former self. Same with cotto after Clottey. Same with Hatton since Mayweather.
Barerra II-Had two razor thin wins over Rocky Juarez and a lost to JMM in his previous fight
Morales I- Morales was coming off a loss to Barrera
Morales II & III- Morales coming off another loss, this time to some guy named Rahim.
ODLH- coming off a fight against Forbes at 150 where Oscar’s trainer stated how making weight effected him negatively and many articles reporting how Oscar’s best days were behind him
Hatton- Hatton had some unimpressive victories after getting dominated for 10 rounds before being knocked out a year and a half before
Cotto- It was well documented how Cotto appeared to have lost speed, reflexes, stamina and his chin appeared weaker after a devasting knockout by Margarito
Clottey- Coming off a loss to Cotto
to boxing fan,
who is on top or even 2nd to FMJ when he challenged them?
You keep on asking same questions to us and as we answer them you can’t even accept the fact that you are just pushing what you want to believe.
1pound+1pound= 2 lbs! LOL
@ Real Boxing fan
FACTS: HERE’S THE FACTS->The only relevant fighters in boxing particularly in the WW division are 1)Pac-two championship belts 2)SSM also a champion (and Floyd-Beltless). Ward who?
RealBoxing fan is a poser and it’s transparently obvious. I hope your on here when this year plays out.
Simon
Out of those last 4 fights which one is still relevant is boxing. Answer this question don’t run from answering the question.
@ real boxing fan.
then are you saying that FMJ is better than manny? was there a Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, and a JMM (with a fast hand speed at featherweight division) at FMJ’s time? NONE! He never faugt COTTO nor Clottey. Just now with no options to choose with Mosley. Those 3 mexicans are LEGENDS. and if want me to reiterate that JMM was SO SLOW and bubbly at 145 lbs compared to the lightweight JMM whom FMJ called with a 2 lbs excess weight at weigh in. is this your pound 4 pound king? pound+pound= 2 lbs maybe. LOL!
The thing is Im a Andre Ward fan. I just deal with facts.
mr.sweetsci,
LEX I GOT THIS ONE FOR YOU
Out of all of those fighters which one is relevant in boxing right now. David Diaz does he even fight anymore. Oscar took a a$$ whipping against and ESPN fighter now he’s retired now. Hatton fought Paullie and didn’t look impressive and retired. Cotto lost to Clottey and if you saw the fight Clottey got robbed and Cotto just isn’t the same since Margirito.
@ Real Boxing fan
Why would I waste my time explaining what you’ve already explained. And I don’t have to convince you either, you already have convinced your self blindly. You are a Real Baoxing fan of Floyd alone and no other. Got it?
Floyd only came out of retirement cause his name was forgotten so quickly due to the rise of Pacman, who would not be denied champion status.
I didn’t hear or read PBF’s name once during his whole retirement.
If he was a true champion who took on the best instead of the rest for the 5 years before he retired, he would have been remembered for longer.
Now that he has come out of retirement he is being forced to prove himself against fighters with integrity (SSM & if he is lucky a shot at Pacman) instead of cherry-picking.
& from all his excusses & balking so far, he’s scared he ain’t got what it takes to mix it with the best.
If Mayweather steps in the ring on May 1st against Mosely he’s going to get hurt. He’s fought one fight in three years against a blown up featherweight,repeat blown up featherweight. He is not ready for sugar shane. Win or lose he will get hurt. To all the Mayweather fans,say what you will and beleive the spin coming from Ellerbe and the Mayweather camp but Floyd did NOT want to fight Mosely he wanted to fight Matthew Hatton. After Berto pulled out he has to fight Mosely or look like a complete chickensh*t.That’s a fact. On May 1st he will get hurt and win or lose,no way in hell will he fight Manny Pacquiao this year.
hey real boxing fan…..are you really a a boxing fan or just a floyd’s a$$ kisser? the BWAA just voted manny the fighter of the year and also fighter of the decade. that’s a great achievement for anybody. you can argue that the BWAA is the lifeblood of boxing. also the RING MAGAZINE(own by GBP)voted manny as their fighter of the year. that’s a great accomplishment. are you just jealous because floyd is only a RUNNER up? you don’t have to feel so bad. deal with it.
@ wanted.
if Manny is overhyped, who did FMJ beat anyway? dela hoya-SD, Hatton-Later rounds, JMM-a Knocked down at earlier round and wend to UD with a 2lbs excess weight
compared to Pacman with ODLH-submitted, Hatton-2nd round, JMM-Knocked down 3x. and COTTO whom FMJ never faught.
Then how DID FMJ became Pound for pound with only 5 division titles compared to 7?
DAMN your soooooo GOOD!
If Pacquiao is not pound for pound the best then IT DEFINITELY ain’t mayweather either. If you say that pacquiao list of opponents doesn’t make the cut then you’d have to be a raging idiot to say that mayweather’s list does.
hey lex_f…are dreaming again? cotto beat clottey before he fought manny. oscar also won his last fight before he fought manny. hatton beat malignagi before he fought manny. diaz beat morales before he fought manny. is this enough or you want me to add more? wake up lex!!!!!!
Like seriously Manny fans who has Manny beat that came off of a impressive win. Manny is a over hyped fighter. Im really getting sick an tired of Manny fans really think this guy is great. He is an good fighter at 130. Since he left 130 he hasn’t had a creditable win. Im not even trying to bring up the no taking a blood test $hit. David Diaz isn’t that good. Please Manny fan convince me that David Diaz, ODLH, HATTON AND Cotto are good fighter when Manny fought them. Explain to me how these fighters better days are in front of them. This is just my opinion but out of these 4 fighters which one is still relevant in boxing. And I don’t want to bring up the fifth fighter who is Marquez who gave Manny all that he could handle. Marquez is the same fighter that got humiliated in his last fight against PBF. Please answer this question for me PLEASE
another pac hater. but the title seems to be pro Manny, then as you read it becomes anti Manny. You are making a contrary statement here. i think FMJ is just making a gamble here. He can’t fight a cash cow now. Mosley is a better buy than Clottey but it’s just because he can’t fight anyone who will attract PPV to the present. once he fight another smaller fighter he won’t have a big cut in anyway. He is just making money. not making good fights. He just wants to weaken his enemy by random blood test because he is afraid of their one punch KO power whom he doesn’t have and win in points as usual by running.
smoove and pooch please give each other phone numbers, no more talking about the earthquake please
Carlos Baldomir, the future hall of famer
unwanted, thats crap, pacman the proven and voted by the best to be the best no other comment,
@ Wanted
Before you go on writing, do some homework so you’ll know for sure that Pac is for real-not an overhyped as you suggests. Don’t be ignorant of the facts about Pacs accomplishments. No boxer in history has done what he has accomplished. I don’t need to list his accomplishments as it won’t fit this page.
Also, don’t use text because you look like a 5th grader when you do that.
commonsense;
Mayweather-ODLH- 2.44 million
Pacquiao-ODLH- 1.25 million
Mayweather-Hatton- 920,000
Pacquiao-Hatton- 850,000
Mayweather-Marquez- 1 million
Pacquiao-Marquez I- not worthy of being on PPV
Pacquaio-Marquez II- 410,000
The numbers after the fight are the amount of PPV buys. So you can say Manny is the bigger draw all you want, but the numbers say Floyd is. And Floyd is only going to get bigger by taking on Mosley, while Manny is fighting Clottey.
@ smoov
Seriously? That was your come back? Trying to make me feel bad? You must really have no argument then.
No man, I in no way disrespected that tragedy. I did not make jokes or display any insensitivity in regards to what happen in Haiti. No, I was making a joke out of you. Which was redundant on my part because you are already a joke.
all roads lead through Mayweather? that’s why Pacquiao was able to rise to the summit of boxing without even having to fight the guy. Not to mention that most of the boxing community now considers Manny to be the draw. Which is exactly why Floyd wasn’t gonna get a majority purse split against Pacquiao.
Mayweather-Mosley better outsell Pacquiao-CLottey. If not, then that’s really sad on Floyd and Shane’s part.
mayweather ko’d by ssm. thrust me.
Manuel;
Actually Mayweather isn’t hiding anywhere. He’s fighting the #1 welterweight on May 1. Sounds like Manny is hiding under your blouse. How is Floyd the one hiding and not Manny??? Manny’s trainer freddie Roach is quoted by an official partner of Fox Sports as saying “Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny… I told him “no” both times and both times for the same two reasons: First there isn’t enough money there, and second, you’re too good a fighter.” This was just this past summer. Apparently, there’s enough money there with Clottey though and he’s obviously not too good of a fighter. So, Manuel please let Manny out from hiding in your skirt and let him fight a top welterweight!
WANTED, you say Floyd’s the bigger draw? Is that why Pac beat Floyd’s pay per view numbers in spite of the fact that Pac Cotto cost more per ticket and let’s not forget that you could see Mayweather Marquez in movie theatres at $15 for a ticket. I wonder how many of those tickets were included in May Marquez ppv buys? Ask any boxing fan. Would you rather watch Mayweather dance around the ring all night and potshot here and there or woudl you rather watch a Pac fight which most likely will have eye popping knockdowns and even a highlight reel knockout. Looking back, which fight was more exciting? May Hatton or Pac Hatton. May DLH or Pac DLH. Yeah I know May did better numbers at the time but don’t for a minute think that May was anything more than he minor side of the DLH fight. By the time DLH fought Pac he was already more of a businessman than a fighter. After May knocked out Hatton, Hatton lobbied for a rematch. YOu don’t see him asking Pac for rematch now do you?
Pacquiao doesn’t need Mosley or Mayweather. He will fight anyone. He doesn’t care about losing.
Mayweather fight won’t happen. He’s ribs will get hurt again and move the fight date. Then he will get abducted by the aliens. He already has alibis. Just waiting for the right time.
Miss PAC mAn better double up on his steriods,if he wanna fight the green eyed monkey!
Is this the same camp that wanted Shane to drop down to 140. The best thing is to worry about the up coming fight with Clottey. Floyd and Shane are the real deal. Manny and the rest of the professional excuse makers need to find a vein to poke. No matter who wins between Floyd and Shane the winner gets to beat Manny up for a quick 40 mill. Manny and Arum have no more leverage. They killed it by not taking a free (Random)test. No more excuses.
you can learn a lot from the fighter mouth,simple word that tell the who confidante ,if anybody know he can take the other guy its the fighters, mosley oozing with the right confidante saying he waited years for this fight and floyd was picking guys smaller and slower then ww.and this fight was force on floyd.now his time.and floyd waiting a week before signing and including a clause of a 2 fight.say it all. even pac knows he can ko floyd. I want to see floyd make the mistake of lead with his right hand and missing and tries to hold. he going to eat a uppercut that these slower fighter could never deliver in time.ha, floyd opp= ko ed.
Poochuaio: You should have never bought up Haiti and using that on this message board. Just as no one would bring up the Sunami’s that have hit the Phillipines in the past.
For using a tragedy in this forum or any forum in highly inappropriate and you should be ashamed of yourself.
All roads lead to Floyd Mayweather! I’ll bet anyone on this forum that Mayweather-Mosley will double the PPV of Pac-”Nobody knows him” Clottey.
@lex_fugitive… you know lex you sounds like PBF you hiding under your mother’s blouse
If PBF wanted to be remembered as one of the greats he should have stepped up & faced Mosley before he retired, and he should have faced Pac when he had the chance without all the excuses & allegations.
Too bad for PBF if Mosley drops him. Mosley has alot of ko’s to his record, it would be no surprise.
I say too bad for PBF because he will never get the credit he probably deserves for his career & record if he doesn’t beat both Mosley & Pac, and if Mosley drops PBF, PBF may never get the chance to fight & beat Pac.
PBF may have had poor judgement with his choice of the timing of his 1st retirement. If PBF hadn’t retired when he did, he & Pac would have fought long ago.
But Pac has had an amazing career particularly over the past 3 years.
PBF has been forced into this fight with Mosley. They should have met years ago.
It sounds like Manny will be retiring after he finished fighting Mosley and then Floydie (if it happens). I wonder what will happen to the boxing world once he’s gone.
There is no doubt that Mayweather will lose to Mosely hands down. What a rag doll Floydy would look like after Mosely slaps him all over the place. Floydy just doesn’t have the skills. Oh yeah, he’s one back-pedaling fool. Bring it on!
Looks like the stars and moon are perfectly aligned for Mosley. Now it’s a matter of him turning back the timeclock. Mosley has a very high KO ratio… let’s see how well he does.
i’m sure pacman vs. mosley will realize soon after clotey beats pacman (that is if roach will not give him steroids) and mayweather beats mosley(without roids also) “LOSER vs. LOSER”. It should be an interesting fight “cyborg vs. cyborg”
A rematch of a boring fight between Mayweather and Mosley!
We don’t need a rematch. We need to see a exciting fight, between Mosley and Pacquiao – This is the fight that we need to see not against Mayweather.
Mosley will win, Pacquiao will win and by July a fight between
Mosley and Pacquiao! – Yeah baby!
Good article. Right on target.
once mosley wins, i hope there’s a rematch so that floyd could be beaten up twice! if no rematch, pacman-mosley would be the greatest fight ever!
Again ODLH and Hatton were the two fights the public and boxing writers wanted to see Floyd take. No one else would have had better odds. Before that he signed the lineal champ in Judah who had beat all four of his WW opponents. After Judah lost to baldomir, floyd went through with Judah, as he was still a big name. then he beat the lineal champ who hadn’t lost in 8 years. I know he lost 8 fights when he had a day job at the beginning of his career. Manny got knocked out by two nobody’s at the beginning of his career. So, if we are really going by the very beginning of one’s career and that makes Baldomir a walkover then Manny is a walkover too. Floyd wanted Mosley in 2006, but Mosley wouldn’t fight him. Margarito had one notable win against Cintron and had lost a year earlier and Baldomir gave him a better deal. Now, I admit he fought a smaller guy in Marquez in a tune-up fight after a 21 month break, but now he’s back doing what he did before he retired-taking on those who are percieved to have the best chance of beating him.
One can argue he retired to duck WW’s, instead of because injuries, even though he had tried to fight Mosley. But the facts are he fought the best up until then. Hatton had a chance to fight Floyd had 140, after he beat Tzsyu and floyd beat Gatti, but Hatton refused to fight here and floyd refused to cross the pond for him.
On the other hand, all of Manny’s opponents, with the exception of Marquez, were coming off a loss or unimpressive wins after getting knocked out. Both continue to do what they have a history of doing; Floyd fighting the opponent with the best chance of beating him and Manny fighting someone coming off a loss.
ricky was hooking floyd from the outside,mosley should have no trouble banging
floyd,once floyd feel a welter weight punch,he get gun shy,floyd you better practice your running backward,mosley going to kick your ugly butt.
mosley licking his chops now,floyd going to be black and blue,sorry floyd its end on this fight,but its no sense for a second fight,unless you want more punishment
wolf go back to your pack, thats pure rubbish and most readers know this has well, money just has not got the balls
mayweather is a harder fight for pacquiao than shane mosley. mosley is old and washed up, the only reason why he looked good against margarito because margarito was bad. margarito didnt have his handwraps but everyone still considered him formidable. margarito had his mind on the case of handwraps, if it was a long time ban. look at mosley vs mayorga, he barely beat the guy, he looked slow and washed up. he was suppose to ko mayorga a b- fighter, but he didnt. mosley is old, he’ll lose to mayweather and pacquiao.
paul williams would definitely have the highest chance of beating pacquiao, but he could barely beat martinez. someone who has less speed and power than pacquiao. in that fight he didnt use his size advantage properly till the late rounds. pacquiao would capitalize on this. if paul doesnt get caught with pacquiao left hands, he will win definitely. but if pacquiao gets him early pacquiao wins.
everyone who thinks paul williams will beat pacquiao easy either just doesnt think or is a plain hater. yes hes bigger, but it depends if he uses his size, and i dont think he will.
PAC is a sissy! He dont want know part of Mayweather. This is what the world wants and he wants Mosley to win!! Mayeather will be hopin Pac wins his fight so he cant run from Floyd anymore. Pac is thinking twice about coming up in weight. He thought Floyd would never come out of retirement.
Mayweather was awarded for Ducker of Decade & Ducker of the Century. quak quak. lol
This is for the people who hates Pac. I saw how he loves the children in our country he provides them by paying their tuitions in schools. He has plenty of scholars cause he knows how difficult life may be without education cause he just finished 2nd grade. All I’m asking is why some people just hate him without a reason, he is just a special fighter who provides for his people. 10 years in boxing and he never failed a drug test. Pac used to live in a cardboard TV box outside Manila, and he knows how difficult life in the southern Philippines that is why he also has a foundation to feed the people of Gen. Santos City. This is real guys, this is no joke! Pac spends his money right, I don’t know how Floyd spends his.
@ smoov
Steven Segal is a washed up actor? No, he is a legit Aikido master, a real Sheriff who’s show opened up to the highest ratings in A&E’s history. Not to mention that the guy was invited to the white house to give private lessons to (Bush’s) cabinet members.
Unlike Manyweather, Manny and Segal are not one-trick ponies who can only be successful doing one thing.
Oh my bad, I forgot that Mayweather is a former “Dancing with the Stars” loser.
Mosley should take the random blood testing, he admitted to taking steroids. Pacquiao has never tested positive so he doesn’t have to give into Mayweather’s demands. Mayweather couldn’t even KO an old and undersized Marquez and he’s going to beat Pacquiao? Don’t count on it. If Cotto can beat Mosley than Pacquiao can beat Mosley. As for fighting Williams, tell Williams to fight someone his own size. At 6′1″ and with an 82″ reach don’t expect Pacquiao to fight him. Garduno is the same guy who picked ODLH, Hatton and Cotto to beat Pacquiao, so your picking of Mayweather and Mosley to beat Pacquiao is a good sign that Pacquiao will beat them both. Mayweather may have a rematch clause but if he gets KOd by Mosley he won’t want a rematch with Mosley meaning Mosley will fight Pacquiao next.
@ not so smoov
If you call getting lucky as being smarter than someone, then you must have no luck in your life because you’re not very smart.
Floyd did nothing to “outsmart” team Pacquiao. By saying that he did, you imply that he had something to do with why Berto pulled out, which was the quake, which Floyd had nothing to do with.
So what if FLoyd has a re-match clause. all that means is that he can avoid fighting Manny for another 8 months. That’s planty of time to retire again jsut like he did when people were saying he should re-match with DLH.
Grow up man. I’m insensitive? You’re an idiot. My sarcasm wasn’t directed at Haiti, it was directed at your dumb deduction that FLoyd was smarter than Pac because it happened. If anyone is insensitive, it’s you for not recognizing that the only reason FLoyd got this fight is because Berto chose to be with his family instead of fight in a meaningless (by comparison) fight.
Besides, it doesn’t matter if Manny has to wait. He’s friggin running for office anyway. Once that’s over, Floyd will be plenty available, that is if he’s still up to fighting Manny. I bet he’ll be retired.
good reading, i hope shane can win if not we all wish the next fight is the big one, all in time it will happen sept/oct 2010, take it to wembley in uk 100,000 people, unbiased scorers, and the fight of century
Silly Roach and Pacquiao are trying desperately to stay in the public eye now that Mayweather has again stolen the spotlight with his May 1st fight against a future Hall of Famer in Shane Mosley. (Pacs fighting yet another stiff)
Mayweather also controls a REMATCH if he loses, so Manny won’t get a shot until after a rematch and that could take another 8 months. Like it or not Mayweather has outsmarted Team Pacquiao, again, and he will be in charge of both the drug testing issue and the purse split, if he even allows Pacquiao to fight him, because Mayweather Mosley with double the PPV numbers for Pac-”No Name” clottey.
Roach needs to stop with these desperate, insignificant “press releases.” They have lost already.
Now they are trying to use a washed up actor, Steven Segal to get people to buy into that Pac-”Nobody Knows Him”Clottey.
Sad, real sad.
@Poochuaio: Not a good idea to use sarcasm with Haiti and the over 212,000 people who died as a result of the earthquake.
Note: NO SARCASM, INSENSITIVE IDIOT!
@ lex
Floyd had his best years at 135. Since splitting with Top Rank, his fight selection became extremely suspect. Hell even before that.
Judah had just lost to Baldomir before his fight with Floyd, and he still won the first four rounds. Judah is very athletic but but his glass-jaw and tendency to fade in the later rounds kind of negates his athletic advantages.
Boldomir with double-digit losses? DLH who was over the hill and still won a judges scorecard. Hatton who had no business, through self-admission, fighting at welterweight? Then instead of fighting DLH again or any other good welter he retires only to come back and fight JMM?
Pac did beat a paper champ in Diaz. Excuse me, knocked out a paper champ. Since then, his opponents, however “tailor-made” for Pac or shot were still bigger threats than Pac’s previous opponents. Can Floyd really say the same thing since moving up? NO.
With the exception of DLH Pac has fought guys in there own weight class. And while the Cotto fight was at a catch-weight, it was still in the welterweight class. And although Cotto/Hatton lost fights before fighting Pac, they hadn’t been fresh off any losses or possessed any of the glaring weaknesses of a Judah who Cotto beat. True you can say Hatton was a face first fighter, he still had only been beaten once, by the then P4P best fighter in the world. What was Baldomir’s rank when he beat Judah? Not number 1.
If Floyd had avoided retiring and fought one or two more welters, or came back and fought a low ranked welter, then people wouldn’t accuse him of fighting smaller guys. It’s great that Floyd fought great fighters at 135, but he’s no longer at 135 and he’s not so old that he can’t fight real fighters. He has no excuse now.
Pac is the smallest in the ww division yet he is percieved as a huge threat to these bigger guys,… how cool is that.
Steven Seagal meets Manny Pacquiao and will be at Dallas Cowboys’ $1.2 billion state-of-the-art stadium in Arlinton, Texas on March 13th. Former US Pres. will be there too! See yah all there. Whereas Fraud Jr, will only be at MGM Hotel in Las Vegas where Xyloclaine is not prohibited. Whew! Think about it folks…SAme feather flocks together.
SmoovOne, the writer of this article is absolutely correct. His write-ups are based on the facts. SmoovOne, you need to further start researching and go ahead and watch live interviews of Pacman. There thousands of videos posted on your tube for your information. Pacman agreed for random blood testing, but not 14 days before the fight. He also agreed to be tested right after the fight. So don’t sounds like you’re Mayweather’s kin who talk BS. Same feather flocks together.
Another writer who wishes he had manny’s money…….get a real job, your article sucks…..your not experience enough to make a pointless judgment….
pac right ,so using floyd and floyd sr words,mosley going to kick floyd little butt ,its be a easy fight,easy fight,pretty boy jab is useless feather touch to a determined mosley.
Yeah, Mayweather outsmarted team Pacquiao by engineering an earthquake in Haiti to which he knew with his evil genius mind that Berto would back out and he could steal the spotlight from Manny (key word : steal, because the spotlight was no longer on FLoyd).
Note: Sarcasm.
lex-fug,
can you explain why floyd didn’t win fighter of the decade and also fighter of the year?
If Floyd is so good he should have won both aards.
@Estaban: I must correct your article. Manny Pacquiao never agreed to “RANDOM” blood testing. Manny agreed to blood testing with specific time periods or dates. Knowing when a test is coming is pointless. You know when they come, you know when to get off the juice. And don’t even mention testing AFTER a fight. The goal is to catch a cheat BEFORE a fight.
Silly Roach and Pacquiao are trying desperately to stay in the public eye now that Mayweather has again stolen the spotlight with his May 1st fight against a future Hall of Famer in Shane Mosley. (Pacs fighting yet another stiff)
Mayweather also controls a REMATCH if he loses, so Manny won’t get a shot until after a rematch and that could take another 8 months. Like it or not Mayweather has outsmarted Team Pacquiao, again, and he will be in charge of both the drug testing issue and the purse split, if he even allows Pacquiao to fight him, because Mayweather Mosley with double the PPV numbers for Pac-”No Name” clottey.
Roach needs to stop with these desperate, insignificant “press releases.” They have lost already.
i dont think pac will have that chance because floyd will beat mosley. Plus pac doesnt have a chance vs either fighter, better chance vs mosley because he is stationary. Floyd would be way to mucg for manny. manny is hoping mosley beats mayweather so he wont have to fight him.
@fugitive,How long did it take you to compile then type that pile of biased crap?You nugget!
half decent article. well done. Though I don’t give mosley much chance againt pacman spesh if at a catch weight I agree that mayweather and williams would be both take pacman to school tho i dont see why williams has ever been in the picture to fight pacman. would be a very unfair fight. But again your right on pacmans recent opposition, alot of people complain about mayweather for cherry picking but why has pacmans last bouts been a shot looking de la hoya and hatton. Cotto who looked pretty much shot after the margarito fight spesh with how he deal with clottey. And who they hell is david diaz, come on could they not have fought every other fighter who was at lightweight who was 10 times as good a diaz.
manny the filipino punk what a blood cry baby
Kdoggy-specialist subject…THE BLEEDING OBVIOUS!Any more nuggets for us?
I agree with Freddie Roach, I think Floyd will beat Sugar Shane Mosley.If Pacman beats Clottey like I expect he has to face the winner.
Pacman vs Mosley or Pacman vs Mayweather are both great fights.
Didn’t Manny just “balk” at fighting Mosley the #1 welterweight just a few months ago???
A look at some of the opponents for Manny and Floyd. Look at this and tell me who avoids fighters at the top of their game and who cherry-picks. No way Manny fights the winner of May 1.
Manny:
Barerra I- Barrera was coming off head surgery and had to leave Big bear in the middle of training due to wild fires
Barerra II-Had two razor thin wins over Rocky Juarez and a lost to JMM in his previous fight
Morales I- Morales was coming off a loss to Barrera
Morales II & III- Morales coming off another loss, this time to some guy named Rahim.
ODLH- coming off a fight against Forbes at 150 where Oscar’s trainer stated how making weight effected him negatively and many articles reporting how Oscar’s best days were behind him
Hatton- Hatton had some unimpressive victories after getting dominated for 10 rounds before being knocked out a year and a half before
Cotto- It was well documented how Cotto appeared to have lost speed, reflexes, stamina and his chin appeared weaker after a devasting knockout by Margarito
Clottey- Coming off a loss to Cotto
Floyd:
Hernandez-undeafeted at 130
Corrales-undefeated at the time
Castillo- undefeated at 135, hadn’t lost in four years
Judah- Had beat every WW he fought at time contract was signed
Baldomir- Hadn’t lost in the 8 years that he actually trained for fights and didn’t have to sell feather dusters door-to-door and catch his own fish for food to eat
ODLH- Past his prime, but at Oscar’s best weight, 154
Hatton- Undefeated at the time and thought to have the best chance of any fighter to beat Floyd
Mosley- The top weltwerweight coming off an impressive KO over Margarito