Pacquiao-Clottey won’t be getting an HBO 24/7 series
February 20th, 2010
By Sean McDaniel: If the March 13th bout between World Boxing Organization welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao and Joshua Clottey is going to succeed, it’s going to have to settle for a simple 30 minute special from HBO named “Road to Dallas.”
This has got to be a huge blow for the fight, because the HBO 24/7 specials are great vehicles for attracting casual fans to their big pay-per-view boxing attractions.
With only one special to be aired by HBO on the Pacquiao-Clottey fight, it could dramatically reduce the amount of boxing fans that decide to purchase the card. Because if casual boxing fan aren’t familiar with the boxers in a particular fight, then fans won’t be purchasing the fight. It’s a simple as that. Pacquiao is a popular fighter, but he’s not popular enough to draw fans without advertising and marketing of his fights.
Pacquiao has been fortunate in his last three fights to be taking on mega stars Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto. But on March 13th, Pacquiao will be facing Clottey, who most fans don’t have clue one about. I hope that HBO and Pacquiao’s team aren’t counting on people purchasing the fight just because of their familiarity with Pacquiao, because they might be disappointed. Without a star opponent opposing Pacquiao, it takes advertising to get casual fans interested in seeing a fighter they’ve never even heard of.
The “Road to Dallas” Pacquiao-Clottey special will show immediately after the March 6th light welterweight unification fight matching Devon Alexander vs. Juan Urango. But that fight probably needs a 24/7 special of it’s own because neither fighter is well known to casual boxing fans and it likely won’t be a fight that gets high numbers of viewers.
The way things are looking, the Pacquiao-Clottey fight will live and die on the hardcore boxing fans that are fans of Pacquiao. If they don’t know who Pacquiao is or don’t care about his opponent Clottey, then few casual fans will waste their time and money purchasing the expensive $49.95 fight. The undercard has few recognizable stars to make counter balance the lack of a good main event bout.
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Mayweather is ***** PU$$Y…
there are so many idiots sticking to this sites,
manny has just entered welterweight in fighting cotto and won.
but tell me, how long has floyd been in welterweight yet never
fought cotto, margarito, williams and because he cant sell a
cherrypick opponent has to fight mosley under dela hoyas
promotional pressure? you gotta be kidding me floyd fans. who
is actually docking who? manny never docked any opponent. his
defense against clottey is just his secong welterweight fight,
in exemption to dela hoya fight few years ago.
but if manny still stays in boxing he might end up fighting
almost everyone in welterweight as well… but how come floyd didnt? for a long time he’s been in welterweigth? got that question right pal! you ask more about manny but why not ask floyd?
the ignorant people that think PEDs or Steriods leave your body within a month is plain hilarious.
You know very well what will happen to floyds face IF he fights Manny.
Same as everyone elses face after they fight manny. Bruised, Battered and beaten.
People keep saying thats not possible to jump that much weight. Let me ask you something. Look back when you were 16. How much did you weigh? Now fast forward 12-15 years from now and tell me if you maintained the same weight as you did.
@ 16 he was 108 lbs.
@ 30 he is 147lbs.
even i can attest ive gained more than that over the span of 5 years and ive maintained a lean body.
The truth is people that say Pacquiao is on something is just ludacris cause they drink too much Kool aid. Get your facts straight.
I am laughing so hard that some of this Floyd fans commenting about how Manny is not fighting an African American boxer. Well if thats the case, if Floyd is so tough then why is he so afraid of the little Asian man whom he said would be an easier fight than Marquez. Why is Floyd who is AFRICAN AMERICAN, is trying to make Manny, the smaller fighter, take an unprecedented demand to take random blood test. You know why? Floyd, an African American, doesn’t want to fight the little Asian man. In fact, I’ll go even further, Floyd from the start just right after Manny defeated Cotto, Floyd decided he would not fight the little Asian man. And you how did I know this. Well, I got some information from the source. Al Haymon, the manager of Floyd went to meet George Peterson who is the trainer of Paul Williams. Al and George met at NYC early Dec 2009, and Al told George the fight with Manny and Floyd will not happen because according to Al telling George “it was a no win situation”. Scoop Malnowski, recently spoke to George Peterson, and they were talking about who will between Manny and Floyd. Well George said to Scoop, the fight is not going to happen. Well Scoop kept on asking and inquiring more info from George and George told him, “some fight aren’t meant to be made”. Before anyone thinks this is made up, I will swear on a stack of bibles and my soul, I got this message from Scoop himself. This whole random blood testing thing was all a roost. It was their “get out of jail” free card. Or you can say their trump card. Floyd has no intentions to fighting Manny. He tried to get Manny to fight him barely any recovery from Manny’s fight with Cotto. Manny took the fight, so that didn’t work. Floyd was hoping Manny will say it is too soon. So Floyd can say “Manny Pacquiao is ducking me”. Floyd was going to agree to everything Top Rank wanted because Floyd was going to cash in his “get out jail” free card. Even if Manny agreed to the blood test 14 days before the fight, Floyd would have changed it again…I guarantee. He would have said “no way…I want it till the very last day before the fight.” He knows Manny won’t consent to that. In the end, it absolutely Floyd’s fault that this megafight was scuttled.
To NoPacFan,
So you’re basically saying Manny doesn’t put on a great show? Wow…thats the first one or first time. If you have problems sleeping, or suffer from insomnia, go watch any Floyd fight after 2002, then you’ll solve your sleeping problem in no time.
Clottey is a tough boxer, he is by far no marshmallow, at least Manny is fighting someone bigger than him and has never been knocked out. Unlike Floyd’s last where he found a fighter who was basically 3 weight class below him. LOL. What the FROCK was that about?
That really sucks that Pacquiao vs. Clottey will not get a 24/7 and Mayweather vs. Mosley will!!! M vs. M will definitely get a boost in PPV sales because of a 24/7 (its a great way to advertise the fight). I’m sure Floyd already knows this and will use it to avoid a fight with Pacquiao even more by using it as leverage and not being flexible in the negotiations claiming that he’s the “bigger draw”. He’ll probably try to bully Pacquiao into a 70/30 split and unlimited random blood testing. What a crock of Shnet! Floyd has the talent to dominate Pacquiao but when it comes to proving who is P4P King…HE’S P4P FAKIN’ IT!!!
this fight should be on espn !! i would be embarassed if were top rank or manny pac. to charge even 10 dollars for this garbage ..
Fighter, Mosley was not available at the time Pac picked Clottey. Who do you think he should have picked? Paul Williams? Mayweather was in the right place at the right time when Mosley fell into his lap. Before Mosley became available, if you recall, Mayweather thought he could actually get away with fighting Matthew Hatton and the “revenge for my brother” angle.
paul williams aint the most feared boxer,,he,s the most avoided boxer.why,because he wants 60/40 or 70/30 purse splits,rematch clauses. that big dude thinks he,s mega ppv when he cant fill a phone kiosk. if he makes it back to welter he,ll look like a skeleton wearing boxing gloves lol
Clottey?!? Really??? Clottey? Cherry-picking at its finest! If Manny cared about the fans he would fight a top level opponent instead of some tomato can like Clottey. This is just getting pathetic.
The way things are happening in the boxing world is that Manny Pacquiao is winning all the awards and accolades that were offered in the past 3 years. It will be that way for this year and when he retire from boxing. The Pacman had hundreds of thousands and millions of boxing fans because of his dedication and the right attitude he is displaying. He is a true boxing sportsman because of how he treat his fans, audience, people around him and the watching public. Most of all, his recognition of God in having this success that never leaves his mind before and after a fight. He always mention how God has given him the strength and that inspires him for that will to win in every fight. All his fights are for the Filipino people and for his country, the Philippines. Long live the Filipinos! “The Filipinos are worth dying for” – quote from Benigno ‘Ninoy’ Aquino the husband of the late President Corazon ‘Cory’ Aquino.
Mayweathers are the best in trash talkings because they were brought up in that environment. They were not taught about good manners and understandably they grew up in a notorious culture. They survived in that and became natural for them to trash talk. Talking dirty to people is their way of psyching their opponent. When you respond to their ploy you will lose because you are not used into that type of engagement. Good thing, the Pacman is not responding as he is aware that these false accusations are only traps. He is just concentrating on his training against Clottey and let his manager and other people around him do to the talking for him. Manny knows that there are people against him and no matter what he accomplishes there will still be anti-Pacman. That’s why Pacquiao is loved by hundreds and millions of followers who love boxing. MP and Roach were given awards by the BWAA as the best boxing fighter and trainer for 2009 and the best fighter of the decade. Isn’t that enough?
To the all the Floyd fans, if Clottey was such a tomato, or some sort of sacrificial lamb, why didn’t Floyd challenge him instead of JMM who was a lightweight fighter and who had to skip 2 weight classes to fight Floyd who’s last fight was at light middleweight? At least Clottey is bigger than Manny and has never been knocked out and his fight with Cotto was very close and some say he won the fight. Clottey is also at least the same size as Floyd or if not just a tad bigger. Instead Floyd picks a smaller fighter JMM, who couldn’t hurt him because he was so bloated. And don’t tell me it was because JMM called him out. BS. It was staged by Golden Boy for JMM to call out Floyd from the beginning and Floyd will accept even though Floyd has been called out by Mosley way before JMM made a “fake calling out.” Again before JMM, Floyd could have took the challenge from Mosley or try to get a fight with Joshua Clottey, a fighter who is the same size if not a tad bigger. Instead Floyd opted to fight a smaller fighter…typical Floyd.
To the all the Floyd fans, if Clottey was such a tomato, or some sort of sacrificial lamb, why didn’t Floyd challenge him instead of JMM who was a lightweight fighter and who had to skip 2 weight classes to fight Floyd who’s last fight was at light middleweight? At least Clottey is bigger than Manny and has never been knocked out and his fight with Cotto was very close and some say he won the fight. Clottey is also at least the same size as Floyd or if not just a tad bigger. Instead Floyd picks a smaller fighter JMM, who could hurt him because he was so bloated. And don’t tell me it was because JMM called him out. BS. It was staged by Golden Boy for JMM to call out Floyd from the beginning and Floyd will accept even though Floyd has been called out by Mosley way before JMM made a “fake calling out.” Again before JMM, Floyd could have took the challenge from Mosley or try to get a fight with Joshua Clottey, a fighter would was his size if not a tad bigger. Instead Floyd opted to fight a smaller fighter…typical Floyd.
this is just as well, though its not very fair to clotty, but this fight is all about pacquiao anyway and its a good one at that with clotty being a solid opponent. i would have liked to see a 24/7 series because i feel that anything involving pacquiao or mayweahter will only add to brewing rivalry (with no disrespect to clotty or mosley). and besides, its only once maybe twice in a lifetime that fighters like pacquiao come along and future boxing freaks like us will crave anything they can get their hands on.
anyway, pacquiao will sell this fight and clotty can get his name out there in a much more effective way than 24/7 exposure by beating pacquiao or at least making a competitive fight.
This will be Floyd’s toughest fight to date. Ican’t think of anybody (including Manny) except for Paul Williams who would give Floyd a harder time. And thats because Williams is so tall, and tough even after he absorbs punishment, he’s just as dangerous as in the first round. He also has a gift of being energized when he gets hit. It motivates him.
But back to Shane…brilliant strategy on Mayweathers part by picking a future hall of famer, when Manny picked a tomatoe can.
Rat-a-too
How can I be a dreamer ?
have you followed Mosley fights?
Mosley has the power to knock Floyd out if he catches him with a good punch but In no way can he out box Floyd.Cotto a Puncher out boxed Mosley Ricardo Mayorga gave him a hell of a hard time He KO Margarito who is strong but slow and flat footed Vernon Forrest (RIP) had his number all day and beat twice
p4p finally were on the same wave length,nothing a sure thing , even playing field but have to go to the mall. see ya laters. not as rat-a-too but ha.
WTF. What you, and MMAers fail to realize or acknowledge, is that a great boxer can take his skills, and do very well in MMA. Can you say the same for a bjj, or muay thai guy? I think not. BJJ guy will probably not have great success w/ boxing. Sure, he can learn some basics to help his standup game, but not able to hang w/ equally elite boxers. And to all the others, yes, MMA has risen quickly, but most of these fans are seekers of the thrill of gory, blood and guts. They don’t appreciate the art of shoulder roll, or stepping outside the rt foot of a southpaw being an advantage, or any fundamental scientifics behind their sport. It does’n matter that the fighters they idolize have an ugly record like 10w and 8L. Look at Coture’s record. No disrespect to him, because he’s a warrior, and a great example of what clean living and hard work can do to keep you agile into later years, but a record like his will not get you far in elite circles of boxing, and he’s like an MMA legend. Like I said b4, MMA is entertainment, boxing is an art, a science. More than likely, if a boxer carries a record of say, 25-0, than he’s a force (unless he fights in a weak venue, like West virginia or something), whereas MMA is hit or miss. A scrub w/ a 10-10 record can knock out a legend in that competition. I’ll stick to boxing thanks. And if Floyd faught in MMA, many fights would end quickly, as MMAers have trouble dealing w/hands. It’s all bjj and ground and pound for the most part.
Rat-a-too
actually I think this is going to be a hard fight for Floyd.
I think much harder than Pacquiao I don’t know if he’s going to win but he can
P4P@ ok if you think floyd going to win instead of mosley you need a reality check,man some of these floyd dreamers. and iam not attacking
just acting condescending to you instead,
Rat-a-too
First off I stated clearly that I am not attacking you
also I am not a know it all, I am entitled to my opinion. They are fight predictions PPV predictions are they know it all’s there is also a Larry Merchant’s sore card. I think that Mayweather vs Mosley will do better than Pacquiao vs Clottey and there are others who say the commplete opposite are they Know it all’s too
P4P
Alright! you’re right on that one, you must be one of those hardcore boxing fans I was talking about.
WTF
You can’t really take Mayweather’s sit talk seriously , I like Mayweather as a Boxer But he talks sit alot that’s his way of drawing attention and that’s how he make sales he has to audiences the one’s that like to see him fight and the one’s that hate his guts so he ends up with the best of both worlds
P4P what in the world wrong with you,I gave you,let just rest as we see what the number tell us,so what?Some fans need a real reality check, dont you think that attacking me? are you a know it all? and can see the future?
I hate to chime in on this UFC vs BOXING thing, but the UFC hasn’t been around near as long as boxing but it is gaining ground – MMA in the next 10 years will probably catch and pass boxing unless they get rid of the BS like Mayweathers.Sorry I really didn’t hate Mayweather (actually followed him)until I watched him and his clan on HBO 24/7. Floyd talking sh-t about the fighters in MMA doing that because they can’t box is very disrespectful of a sport that he has no idea of the dedication it takes to be a top MMA fighter.If Floyd thinks it would be easy for him to go in the UFC and fight a top contender in his weight class and win ! I would pay a PPV price to watch that ! He would be carried out in multible bodybags and his mouth in one all its own!
Rat-a-too
It’s not a matter of if, Mayweather vs Mosley will do better numbers than Pacquiao vs Clottey and I’m not being Bias,Some fans need a real reality check,HBO already knows the the numbers are not going to be good.Pacfans are now saying Pac doesn’t need HBO,HBO is currently doing NASCAR 24/7. Promotion and advertisement get you sales thats a fact,why do you think they pay for 30 second spots at Super Bowl
Rat-a-too
I was not attacking you personally. I was just saying it as it is and it has been said maybe not by you but by manny they said Oscar would kick his ass but when that didn’t happen it was a different story and that was at super WW
p4p@yea I know started from that floyd and oscar fight too same day floyd won big,white said never again, ,not saying he didnt do good number, just saying thoes were the days pass ,and ,let just see who wins the the most ppv this fight.we will see manny fight in 3 week,
Pac was suppose to loose all the last three fights he fought – I even thought Cotto was to big ! Thats why his PPV #s aren’t as good as Floyds. His #s will continue to grow if he keeps winning. Floyd gets bigger #s because people pay to watch him get beat.Once Floyd gets beat no one will pay to watch him again.And he will get beat – why ? Because he is as ignorant as they come when your talking money.Not making money – keeping it. He will end up a tired old man at age 40 trying to make a buck to keep his lights on in the house. He better be careful with his so called anti-doping crusade,He’ll probably need a little jungle juice himself when he’s out of his prime (if he isn’t already) and needing to win a fight. If Manny wins his next fight then he’ll still be P4P because he beat the odds again ! And Floyd will still be Floyd trying to talk everyone into thinking he is still the P4P king.
Rat-a-Too
Golden Boy Promotions KO’s the UFC for May 1st date. UFC’s Dana White calls them a ‘joke’
Boxing has done it again. Golden Boy Promotions, in their quest to put the fight together between Floyd Mayweather and Shane Mosley, have knocked out the UFC for the PPV date of May 1st. UFC was all set to hold their UFC 113 PPV event on May 1st live from Montreal’s Bell Centre in Montreal, Canada. UFC President, Dana White has become furious with this forced change and made his feelings known.
Rat-a-too
UFC & MMA is making headway but there not there yet. do you know both times when they were conflicting PPV event dates between Boxing and UFC the UFC were force to push back or change there dates
P4P. Don’t even worry about that MMA crap. Math don’t lie. Dana White’s chubby ass said it himself, that he got rocked when he tried to schedule a fight the same night as Floyd. I believe the #’s were like ufc 400,000 ppv to HBO’s 1.2mil. MMA is entertainment, not a science. While applicable in the street, it’s not one of the cornerstones of American, and international sports, like the sweet science. Say what you want, I don’t care how exciting his style is…I know Manny has cherry picked his opponents, to make him look ALOT better than he really is. Tha’s why I NEVER pay for one of his fights unless the guy he’s fighting is a superb fighter (which he has faught none, as all his opponents have been past prime, come forward, broken, overrated, or just plain slow, and easy to hit. He has faught no P.Williams, Colazzo, Mosley, Berto, Mayweather, Sergio, or even Margarito. Manny is propped up by boxing, and will soon be exposed. Unless he does the probable, retire b4 fighting anyone who has a chance at beating him. I used to say the same about Floyd..But at least he stepped up this time. Who’s Manny fighting, Clottey?
Yeah, he’s a real world classer.
p4p@qoute{Floyd fought Oscar and Oscar was old past his prime so it wasn’t considered a real accomplishment} who said that? also about mosley? confusing me with someone,as I like mosley from a couple year.damm I just started with 1 point that true.look where were now,ha.
Jay-c
MANILA, Philippines – Manny Pacquiao certainly made a good, profitable case for being called boxing’s next big draw.
His fight with Ricky Hatton garnered as much as 850,000 pay-per-view buys in the United States, ESPN.com’s Dan Rafael reported on Thursday, one of the highest among non-heavyweight fights in the history of the sport.
Excluding Oscar de la Hoya’s bouts, the Pacquiao-Hatton match landed second all-time in the aforementioned category behind the Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Hatton slugfest in December 2007. That bout earned 915,000 US domestic buys.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
dfc and mma have steal from boxing you sure you not floyd he hate the ufc bad.
BodogLife.com, an online gambling site, stated in July 2007 that in 2007 UFC would surpass boxing for the first time in terms of betting revenues.[39] In fact, the UFC had already broken the pay-per-view industry’s all-time records for a single year of business, generating over $222,766,000 in revenue in 2006, surpassing both WWE and boxing.[40]
Pacquiao vs Hatton 850,000 or more PPV buys 50 mil tv revenue.
Mayweather vs Hatton 850,000 PPV buys 47 in tv revenue.
Rat-a-too
I don’t understand why is it there are so much double standard?
If you guys don’t like Mayweather that fine but the B.S is becoming so abvious. Floyd fought Oscar and Oscar was old past his prime so it wasn’t considered a real accomplishment on Mayweather’s behalf. Pacquiao fight Oscar 3 years later win and its the biggest achievement ever. Now your talking about boxing fans leaving for UFC & MMA as an excuse for PPV sales & numbers when if Mayweather & Pacquiao fought it have been the highest grossing fight in boxing history. This would have taken place on March 13 2010 of this year. so your reason for PPV numbers being down and your excuse for not comparing stat from 3 years ago to now dosn’t make sense,and if they were to fight later this year they would still have record breaking numbers.So stop making excuses
WHO CAN DO THE PPV MATH?
MAYWEATHER – USA
PACQUIAO – WORLD
p4p@ Pacquiao Hatton was just last year Mayweather Hatton was 3 year ago,like I said boxing including ppv has going down hill.so forget about comparing old stats as its a smaller buying ppv crowd,again saying floyd had 15 dollar theater seats selling,didnt you see it? he including that as ppv in the 1 million regular 65 dollar ppv,is ok but that no indicater that he will out sold pac fight money wise.
I like Pacquiao like I said he is a good fighter,and I respect fans for standing behind and backing there guy. But the trash talking and misinformation should stop. I mean we can all be on these forums and share our difference in opinions and agree to disagree without tearing down the other guy. Is Manny Pacquiao a good fighter yes he is but arguing silly points is just stupid. Sales are sales if one organization promotes it’s event better than another and turn out better number how can you make a silly excuse like the only reason was because they did this or they did that when you could have done the same given the fact that your event was after there’s .The things its just not one event Mayweather did 1 million PPV sales not once not twice so is Manny a good fighter again yes but does Mayweather have better PPV sales ofcourse.
I left out (Mosley came to Wild Card Gym)
Rat-a-too
I really don’t understand where your coming from with the whole they sold $15.00 Theater tickets. And fans leaving for UFC or MMA? So why were the numbers for Pacquiao vs Hatton not better than Mayweather vs Hatton? Also came to Wild Card Gym and asked (Freddie Roach) for a fight with Pacquiao and Roach told him no his is to much a risk and not a big enough draw.This was said by Freddie Roach himself in an interview so how can you Pacfans no say all sales for Mayweathers fight is because of Mosley. I agree that Mosley is more Popular than Clottey But be real Manny does not have a PPV Record to Match Floyds
Hey boxing fan 2 your full Of BS…
Well, clotey and pacquiao are great fighters, but they aren´t tv atractions. If they get a 24/7 show, it will be borring like no other. They are fighters, so let them fight, don´t put cameras on their gyms.
On the other hand, mosley and floyd can have a 24/7 show or something, because like it or not, floyd is fun to watch. I´m not saying floyd is a better fighter than pac or any other fighter, just that he make me laught on past 24/7 shows.
I hope the manny floyd fight can happend later in the year. And that really deserves a 24/7 show. Maybe more than that.
Keep punching people!!!!
@ P4P
So what’s your point if Floyd vs Mosley outsells Pac vs Clottey? Big deal, it doesn’t make Pac #2 by any stretch of the fans imagination. The truth remains, whoever wins between Floyd and Mosley will still just be #2.
Last I checked, Pacquiao is getting a segment on 60 Minutes, Pacquiao was VOTED fighter of the year in 2009, and fighter of the decade. Last I checked Pacquiao has a huge endorsement deal with Nike, while Mayweather enjoys his deal with Team Jordan.
I really don’t think PPV sales will go down the drain because of the lack of 24/7 coverage. The previous 24/7 episodes featuring Pacquiao have done well for him, and raised a lot of US awareness.
But last I checked, both Pacquiao and Clottey are not only domestic but also INTERNATIONAL attractions, while Mosley and Mayweather are both American fighters.
Don’t underestimate Pacquiao’s popularity guys. If Clottey were a little better known, I believe they would have invested the money into doing the series. As it is, they will definitely air the Mayweather/Mosley 24/7, and then likely invest in a Mayweather/Pacquiao series this Fall, or a Pacquiao/Mosley series, provided they win their fights and still have relevance come year end.
I also remember Greenburg (head of HBO Sports) saying he would push for a FIVE episode 24/7 if/when Mayweather and Pacquiao square off.
…ryan
p4p @was talking about floyd last fight,as for oscar and floyd you do know fans has left boxing for the ufc and mma fights never to return.no way are were going to get 2 millions in ppv,unless its pac and floyd maybe.I just saying floyd including 15.00 seats in ppv seats in his last fight.its ok but let be know.
Sometimes I have to read these posts and lol,Because it seems like some of these PAC Fans are completely delusional. I like Pacquiao he is definitely a good fighter but lets be realistic for a moment about PPV Sales,Mayweather vs Delahoya did more than double Pacquiao vs Delahoya and current holds the PPV Record, Mayweather vs Hatton did better than Pacquiao vs Hatton and so did Mayweater vs Marquez that too did better than Pacquiao vs Marquez. So how can you sit there and argue PPV sales and numbers facts are fact and the fact are all there don’t let your personal feeling for or against a boxer over look the facts.
floyd last he included the 15.00 theater,but why not their are paid per view,so that how he got 1+millions,but pac and cotto had 1+millions in real 65.00 ppv prices,this time if they do show it again in cheap 15.00 theater ticket it will be knowed,that the money take is not even half of what pac collected,and if their no theater seats,floyd will not even make the 1 million.watch….
Pacquaio Clottey will outsell Mosley’s event only because Pacquaio is a well-known boxer worldwide. He is well-known to the places like the Philippines, UK, US, South America and Mexico not to mention Africa where Joshua Clottey is from. KFC is only known by hardcore boxing fans which half of it probably a Pacquaio fan.
@ Pacfool Stupid
First off what a name to choose
Juan M Marquez does not have a coach (Freddie Roach) That brought a fighter up in weight class just like he’s doing with Pacquiao (James Lights Out Tony) and got caught using steroids
This fight has no chance to sell lol. Everyone knows Pac will win. Why else do you think they chose Clottey? I think Pac made a huge mistake. If Pac wins a 12UD and Floyd dominates Mosley for a 12UD I’m pretty sure that’ll be enough to overtake Pac in the p4p rankings. Pac is fighting buttercups and floyd is fighting the best of the best. In former #p4p juan manuel marquez, and current #3 p4p Sugar Shane Mosley (who tried to get a fight with pac twice last year and was turned down twice). But remember Floyd is the one that is ducking opponents. But when you ask Pac fans why he turned down mosley they like to say oh Cotto is a bigger draw. Well if that’s the case then Pac-Cotto 1.2 million ppv sales. Should outsell Mayweather-Mosley on May 1st. Since they say pac is a bigger draw than mayweather and cotto is a bigger draw than mosley yeah it should outsell them. But if it doesn’t it proves pac ducked mosley!
tanga ka ba?
Pwill= too tall for WW…. you might want pac to fight klitschko brothers also
Gamboa=lol (check his resume vs pac)
Floyd=chickened out.. he wont be asking for any bs primadona demands if hes not SCARED of pac….he never asked JMM to do blood testing…..
Valero=been fighting taxi cab drivers… hahahahah he needs to beat quality fighters before fighting pacman… he has very fragile head..too many headshots from pac… he might end up in coma
the other fighters you mentioned…. => are you for real?
Hey boston red head. I think Pacquiao has every answer to black american boxers. Other than floyd, there fast fading out & the europeans are starting to take over again. The old mexicans you mention – this was because no “african americans” were of world standard at this time & fmj was ducking any1 & everyone who may have been a threat – think about it. Mayweathers got no courage, so many bums on his record of past 6 years – I’m ashamed of him. No way pretty boy would hve fought mosley 6 years ago – he’s a disgrace. by t
Boston Red Head…
Technically Berto is African-American as he was born here and not Haiti one can make the argument for Haitain-American but I’m just saying he’s a black American fighter which like you point out is different from Clottey
@ Tye…
I said this on a another topic but we need to stop throwing Paul Williams name out there he hasn’t fought at welterweight since mid 2008, almost 2 years now and has gone up as far as 160. He says he can make the weight but considering he throws 100 punches a round, is 6’1, and has 82′ reach vs. Pacman 67 we can see why that fight will never happen and also why Paul Williams left the division in the first place no one in their right mind would fight h him. And looking at Pacquaio’s track record of not having welterweights fight at 147 asking Paul Williams to make 145 is insane.
I don’t want to get into a racial thing I think Pacquiao just favors come forward fighters. As far as the situation with the 24/7, the problem is HBO knows that this fight is not going to break the 1 million mark; I said it once and I’ll say it again Paul Williams was out their and ready to go.
I am pinoy , but even I know that these guys are BETTER p4p than pac:
Williams, Gamboa, Floyd, Martinez, Chris John, Mosley, Valero – any of these guys would knock out pac back to manila so he can finish his lumpias.
@Fraud I would say more like:
Clottey/Pacquiao = 500,000 buys
Mayweather/Mosely 1,900,000 buys
Pacman/Clottey PPV buys = 900,000
Mayweather/Mosley PPV buys = 1,400,000
#1,
First of all it it’s “tit for tat” secondly aside from Morales, his losses were in a whole other time, when Roach wasn’t with him.
So let me get this right. Floyd came in over weight once, and you guys label him as a proven cheater. Manny gets knocked out twice so he has a history of getting knocked out. I mean, if you choose to try to go tic for tac, then that’s what it basically come down to.
No special wow…… That’s because HBO isn’t about to invest the money into this fight because they know all the numbers will not add up in the end, HBO is not about to take a money loss, it’s a recession lol. This isn’t a good look for Pac, but hey he brought it on himself by choosing a bum that everyone and their momma know Pac is going to beat. Nobody wants to pay no $50 bucks to watch a fight when you already know the result, and the under card lol, wow, what a complete joke. This is just a sign of things to come. Floyd Shane for sure will have the HBO investment and will easily, and I do mean easily out sell Pac versus bum Clottey.
@Preston, Man, give up on these munchkins. They are as blind as bats and can only see up Pacquiao’s ass. Until Pacquiao begins fighting African American fighters, I can only see him as a VERY average fighter. Fighting broken down, busted up, forward plodding, slow punching Mexicans in the twilight of their career does not a Fighter of the Decade make!
Clottey is African, close, but not African American.
1) Mayweather
2) Mosely
3) Bradley
4) Williams
5) Berto – Haitian not African American but I will accept him
6) Nate Campbell
Wade into the deep water Pacquiao! You’ve been in the shallow end with the busted up broken down Mexicans and Latinos too long. (No offense my latino brethren)
Doesn’t anyone grow tired of mudslinging against each other?
Cultural differences can never be understood by narrow minded persons who believes in lies thrown at a person over and over again. Eventually, that lie becomes truth to them because of constant repetition. Prove it with facts and not hearsays, otherwise you cant prove anything at all.
Tell everyone here,
1. WHAT AND HOW IS THE PROCEDURE IN CLEANSING THE BODY OF STEROIDS?
2. HOW LONG IS THE DURATION OF STEROID INSIDE THE BODY IN ORDER TO BE RENDERED UNDETECTABLE?
3. HOW DOES IT DIFFER IF YOU TAKE THE BLOOD TEST BEFORE THE FIGHT, OTHER THAN AFTER THE FIGHT?
4. IS IT TRUE THAT IN ORDER TO CLEANSE THE BODY OF STEROID EFFECTIVELY, FASTING IS REQUIRED?
Now, if you’re a smart guy, and your weight is already at the given limit, will you do FASTING for a few days or even 2 weeks before the fight?
Love of something you like most (Like the sport of boxing) is greater than the love of money. If you place something so dear and Holy first, you will find contentment beyond what money can give.
Phoc- again…so that your foolishness can be seen by everyone…..Being that you say Floyd has a “history” of comming into fights overweight, although he has only come into ONE fight making that mistake…..DOES THIS MEANS THAT BECAUSE PACQUAIO HAS BEEN KO’ED TWICE IN HIS CAREER, HE HAS A HISTORY OF GETTING KTFO???????????? Can you pretend just for a moment that everything doesnt revolve around your universe and answer that question for everybody?????? Or will you continue being the perfect “MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE”???????
phoc- please dude……now I have a history of being wrong because I have the balls unlike you to recognize that I am not right about everything…….uhmmmmm ok, but it didnt take for you to correct me to understand that……I actually found out on my own. And you are still refusing to say that thru your own logic…not mine that Pac has a history of being knocked out…………lololololo. Tell me Phoc…have you ever been wrong about anything on this blog???? “No one’s position is changing???????? OK, now I get it with you, just pretend that things are a certain way, and refuse to admit the obvious…..and hope that it will go away……….sheesh!!!!!……Dude you are the perfect “Manchurian Candidate”.
Word of mouth travels faster than any HBO special. Consider it a bonus to see a 24/7 series, its definitely not a critical tool to try and get more people to buy PPV’s. More and more boxing/fight fans grow each day. By now people already know Pacquiao’s name. Hard-core fans or casual fans will still make the effort to watch. The attendance at the gate will surpass the Mosely Mayweather fight and will still be as equally exciting to watch. No sense in saying which is the better fight. Be thankful that there are still fighters of this caliber that can do what they do in the ring and entertain the fans.
where were all of the pacroids fans at when he was fighting the same fighters that mayweather fought on ppv? but mayweather still out sold him, on the ppv sales. the numbers dont lie people do. pac fools take a good look at both pac roid and mayweather last 3 ppv fights and you tell me who out sold who????
Too much emphasis being placed on money.
Money is very imporatnt, but for me at least the money discussions are getting me confused.
Eddie South Africa.
@ preston…
There is always a penalty for coming in over the limit.
During normal fight negotiations you never hear about it though.
The only reason why it was a big deal for the Floyd fight was the he was asking for wiggle room on the scales.
Floyd has more advantages over Manny than Clottey does. Floyd was asking for the ability to come in over weight.
No one’s position is changing. The only person that is wrong is you. You’ve admitted it. You have a history being wrong.
Floyd did not ask JMM to take random testing. Clean up the sport?
preston: What is the view like from up Floyd’s bottom?
PRESTON STOP WASTING YOUR TIME. THESE FOLKS KEEP THEIR BLINDERS ON.
Mosley/Mayweather two Hall of Famers…. Manny* Clottey no way. You know in the Floyd/Shane 24/7 they will have all the documents available as to why that fight didn’t happen that way everyone will know the Truth. Mosley and Floyd is the best fight scheduled in years. The last competitve fight Manny was in was Marquez. P4P fighters don’t fight at catch weights that’s why they call it pound for pound. I like Manny but with them back peddling and talking about we will fight for free. Winner takes all? They wasn’t saying that when Floyd asked him to take that test. Now they are brave? Whatever. You want to get something free take the free random blood test and stop making excuses like all the rest of the delusional Manny fans. What will be the excuse when Mosley or Floyd wins?
Sure even without 24/7 Pacman will bring PPV gross income high. Pacman already surpass mayweather Floyd. We can see how fans love Pacman.
aha- we understand that about Floyd comming inot ONE fight overweight, and how that makes him a “proven” cheater in the eyes of every Pac fan…..we get that…..but why cant you guys be reasonable and consistent in your position. Does Pac have a “history” of getting KTFO because he has been KO’ed in TWO fights???? And is Joshua Clottey a “proven” cheater being that he has come into SEVERAL of his welterweigths fights tipping the official scale well above the limit???? Where were the penalties with him????Funny, that I have asked all of you die hard Pac fans these questions a million times, and I have yet to get a response from ANY of you guys on that……..and I know that it is ONLY because you would have to lay off of the Floyd has a “history” talk. But, honestly why does it have to be like that??? We all can not be right or have a valid point about everything…..sometimes we are wrong. I even feel like a fool for continually posting that Floyd SR was currently the trainer of Chad Dawson, amd Juan Guzman when he actually isnt anymore……..I had to swallow my pride, admit that I was wrong, and move on….but you Pac fans are stubborn as hell, I have never seen anything quite like it.
Love 24/7 shame about this and the fight being against Clottey. Still I love boxing and Pacman so should be watching this (free in uk) for almost £30/$50? Waaaaayyy too much
Wow, in a recent TV interview “KTLA Exclusive: One on One with Manny Pacquiao”……Manny Pacquiao is now saying that he is willing to take a blood test to prove that he is clean…….I didnt quite understand if he meant without restrictions……and Freddie Roach is now saying that Team Pac wants to fight Mayweather sooo bad that they are willing to fight Floyd for free……in a winner take all bout. Whew!!!!…. these guys are starting to look like the keystone cops and they have done more flip flopping on this issue than a fish out of the water……..first, it was Manny had a busted eardrum and that he wouldnt be ready to fight ANYBODY in March, but he quickly agreed to a fight with Clottey instead of Mayweather. Then it was Manny would take ANY blood test without restrictions….then it was with restrictions. Then it was Manny is afraid of needles…..and then it was Manny is not afraid of needles. Then it was Mandatory for Pac to negotiate a 10,000,000 penalty on Floyd, who didnt make the slightest aversions to this…. to not even a whisper from Pac of a penalty against Clottey who has offiically missed weight SEVERAL times in his welterweight career. Freddie Roach said that Manny had to run away from home after his father ate his pet dog……..then Manny said his Nieghbor ate his dog….lololo. Even an abitrary committtee that was called upon to try and help out with the negotiations had to distance themselves for the spin that Team Pac tried to play on that situation. I am sorry, but Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao are no more credible or trustworthy than the Mayweathers….infact they are worse because their fans and supporters have elevated Pac to a god-like status, and they just cant except ANYTHING that portyas Manny in a negative light……….
this writer obviously bias against pacquiao!but i can tell you this pacquiao will make more money than floyd’s fight!pacquiao will also asserts his p4p crown!i don’t know about floyd…he may ended up as the biggest loser in boxing…in and out of the ring!
I agree with most things in this article. but one of the points i dont, is that Cotto wasnt a mega star. Obviously ODLH and Hatton were..but Cotto? No way! But to me, by HBO not having a 24/7 series for this fight, indicates how unimpressive this bout is. Listen, Pacquiao is a money maker, but it takes two to make a fight. Not even Mayweather can do it on his own. And he is the new cash cow. Pac will easily win this fight. Its a shame May and Pac couldnt have taken more time to make that fight.
Its understandable,its business.HBO could have indicated these to the Pacquiao camp. Think… two newer boxers, one from the Philippines the other from Ghana…Compare to two Americans.
Which fight would you give more attention.Thats the obvious!
But,if you look at this on the hindsight it seems like the Pac/Clotty fight don’t need much of the HBO marketing tools,
Comparing it to the May/Mosley.
WHO WILL WATCH THESE FIGHTS:
May/Mosley-Family,Friends and all true boxing fans.
Pac/Clotty-Family,Friends and all true boxing fans. + the CASUAL boxing fans.
@preston….. promise, we won’t. hehehe
This fight isnt going to sell much because of clottey not because of its shortened promotional tour. Clottey is a relative unknown with 0 big time wins on his resume. I’ve heard 300,000-500,000 buys predicted, ill be surprised if its that low but ill also be surprised if it passes 750,000.
And yes floyd/shane will beat it in buys maybe even double it but all that means is shane can outsell clottey, it doesnt say anything about floyd pac. If the fights were floyd/clottey and pac/shane then it would be pac/shane getting double the buys.
there’s no need to hype Pacquiao vs clottey bout. The crowed pacquiao brings not to mention clotteys folower it’ll be big you’ll see. Just the name pacquiao Added next to an item will sell it right out.
askin fo random blood testin is not as absurd as u guys sugest it is. because they will both go threw it. now if money sayed only towards pacman then hes talkin out his ass. its not ridicoulus to want random tests when its conducted on both fighters.
Mayweather is the only man that can make a 24/7 do well. He loves the talk and the flashy style…along with he promotes the fight well. He’s very smart.
There are over a million of filipinos and asians in California, Hawaii, Las Vegas alone aside from the hundreds of thousands of the Pacman fans around the US. The thousand of filipinos who usually watches the Pacman fights in Las Vegas wont be able to go to Dallas and just get the PPV. Now do the math. the Filipinos will not let PAcman down
lolol……leave it to the Pac fans to turn “doodoo” into gourment meatloaf. You guys say that….”It’s actually perfect”…….”Pacquiao doesn’t care about PPV buys.”……..”HBO 24/7 is not necessary as Pacman is already a superstar attraction and no. 1 in boxing”…….”too short of time for 24/7 no one cares”……..”Not having an HBO 24/7 is a superb tactical ploy!”.
Ok, so we really will not know how well or bad that this fight will do interms of PPV buys until the day after….if it does well, then you guys will have all of the bragging rights and deservingly so, but if it does bad, then please dont start flip-flopping and saying things like, “Pac didnt have the 24/7 series to help promote his fights.
Aw. Why??
24/7 is very important in this fight especially Clottey is not that popular like Cotto or any fighter that Pacman faced.
24/7 is one of my favorite shows. I always anticipate to watch that.
I think May 1 fight will have more PPV buys than March 13.
PACMAN RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe Arum needs to advertise on regular tv maybe even nbc, cbs, abc, and definatly Spike tv for men. I disagree that people don’t want to see this fight .Ya its not Mayweather but Clotty is Ranked 5th and a formidle opponent.Mayweather sells becouse he is the villion. People want to see him lose as do I………………
@anonymous…. I’m with you regarding Pacquiao’s PPV draw power. Likewise on your earlier post, he’ll get more credit if he’ll take the test for you, for me and everyone else who wanted to get over with the PED issue. So let’s petition the NSAC to revise the testing for EVERY boxer and for sure Manny will do it, but because the Mayweather clan says so? NO WAY !!!
Mayweather will get a ton more PPV buys now then Pacman.
When mayweather signed the contract to fight Mosely, we all knew he would do better in PPVs, now it’s officiall he will because the 24/7 series brings in a lot of people!
lmaooo u actualy think itl have mo ppv’s then mayweathers fight?. u must b retarded
Not having an HBO 24/7 is a superb tactical ploy! The HBO 24/7 series is a contractual agreement that gives exclusivity to HBO marketing the fight, without it means Jerry Jones, Arum, Pacquiao, et al, will have the freedom to market the fight unimpeded and without regard from anyone. Did you ever see any of Mayweather, Pacquiao, DLH fights with 24/7 marketed anywhere else? You think Arum and Jerry Jones of the NFL Dallas Cowboys, Mark Cuban of the Dallas Mavericks know a thing or two about marketing a show?
HBO 24/7 is great, but going mainstream marketing is even BETTER! Expect to see this marketed more aggressively than just having an HBO show. You heard it here!
too short of time for 24/7 no one cares .. can’t wait to see the fight.
no one wants to see this fight anyway
this is a pacman article n u guys still talkin mayweather. lisen u guys keep sayin hes gona make a excuse of a inury. he only did that once. and from what ive been watchin alot of fighters have postponed or delayed theyr fight cuz of injuries. does that mean theyr scared too . no . jus let it go man give both fighters theyr credit. id give pac more credit if he took the tests. not cause floyd wants him to but because i wana know that hes 100% clean
mayb one of the reasons is none of these fighters speak english very well
I just hope that this time a wonderful match will without worried thoughts about whether the judgement was fair or not. Clottey will win this bout if he runs through this so called 30mins with much agression than always. Pacquiao should get ready for his senior brother. I am just waiting to celebrate another victory of my brother.
Pacquaio Clottey will outsell Mosley’s event. Pacquaio is well known from PI, UK, US and Mexico. Maywetaher is not and he is not a likeable person.
they didn’t do a 24/7 for the cotto fight,we get the fight free over here on sky sports but if it was on pay per view i would still pay to watch manny,everyone Say’s that floyd is the money maker so why didn’t he take the fight with manny in stead of mosley.only 1 reason he is undefeated and manny has lost 3 fights,how meny has mosley lost and he did test positive for drugs manny never has.manny will beat clottey but will he get any credit for it only if he was American,manny is p4p there is not only a great fighter but a nice guy as well.
** They did do a 24/7 for the Cotto fight. It was called Pacquiao/Cotto 24/7**
It depends where you are at. Here in LA especially at work, Pacquiao is very popular. I should say 99.9% and they don’t even blog about him, but they all knew when is his next fight and whom he is fighting with. Come to think that there are about 4-5 million Filipinos in whole USA. Ninety-seven (97%) percent of them are fanatics. Just think about 20% of them buys the PPV, that is already close to a million buys and that’s not even counting other races such as americans & latinos.
HBO 24/7 is not necessary as Pacman is already a superstar attraction and no. 1 in boxing.
HOW COULD THERE WILL BE LOT OF PEOPLE TO WATCH ON THE PAY PER
VIEW ON MARCH 13 NEXT MONTH, THE FIGHT BETWEEN PACQUIAO AND CLOTTEY WHEN THERE IS LACK OF ADVERTISEMENT? CLOTTEY, THE OPPONENT OF PACQUIAO SHOULD BE PUBLISHED AND BROADCAST HIS BOXING RECORD AND MAKE HIS NAME KNOWN TO THE PUBLIC. WITHOUT MUCH MEDIA PUBLICATION, FEW PEOPLE WILL WATCH IT PERSONALLY ON THE RING AS WELL AS IN THE PAY PER VIEW. THERE IS STILL AMPLE OF TIME TO DISSEMINATE INFORMATION.
JACK FLORES
BOXING ANALYST
The reason Mayweather Mosely will outsell Pacquiao Clottey is because of Mosley and Clottey. Mosley will always outsell Clottey no matter whether his opponent is Mayweather or Pacquiao. Now Mayweather will go on and on about how this is some kind of proof that he is the bigger draw. He just got lucky that Mosley was not available when Pac was looking for an opponent but fell into his lap right afterward. Still give it a 50/50 on the Mayweather Mosley fight even happening.
Mayweather fight is gonna pass this one in buys
Pacquiao doesn’t care about PPV buys. The reason why he can’t fight on May is because he needs time to campaign for politics. That’s why he wanted to fight this March. After Mar13, he can focus on campaigning. Elections is held on 1st week of May.
The pacman will get no ppv action on this fight….2-boring…
It’s because Clottey is an unknown that they are not doing a 24/7.
It’s actually perfect, cause now we will truly see how many fans Manny has. It will be interesting to see how many buys he gets with a very short promotional tour and no 24/7 series.
It shouldn’t be a problem though. He’s already sold a lot of tickets at the stadium without a long promotional tour and no 24/7