Pacquiao: “I’m not against blood testing, just not the day of the fight”
February 17th, 2010
By Jason Kim: Manny Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KO’s) says he’s not afraid of taking blood tests in an interview at Fightfan. This kind of flies in the face of what many boxing fans feel about the Filipino star. Some people think that Pacquiao was the reason why his fight against Floyd Mayweather Jr. didn’t materialize recently. Pacquiao had no problems with taking the blood tests, saying, “I’m not against blood testing, just not the day of the fight. I’ve had that happen in the [first Erik] Morales fight. I lost that fight and my body felt very weak. I don’t feel I recovered. That is why I don’t want blood testing close to the fight.”
Pacquiao, sick with all this bickering back and forth, moved on and took a fight with former IBF welterweight Joshua Clottey instead on March 13th, leaving Mayweather to scrounge up a fight against 38-year-old Shane Mosley. Mayweather could have had a fight against Pacquiao, but he effectively blew it by coming forth with the random blood testing, which by the way, the California Athletic Commission doesn’t even test for.
Pacquiao, a deeply religious man, says “I’m a clean fighter who trains very hard. People don’t know how hard I train and the sacrifices I make.” Pacquiao has never been caught using steroids or growth hormones in the past, and for boxing fans who say that Manny’s head has gotten bigger, just look at photos from three years ago. Pacquiao’s head looked slightly large even then for his body. It’s just natural for him to have a slightly big head for his body, but it doesn’t mean he’s using any kind of growth hormone.
Pacquiao says “I don’t think Mayweather wanted the fight. He had too many reasons to cancel the fight. I’m not disappointed because I know I’m the one who didn’t want the fight and I have to defend myself.” I don’t know if Mayweather didn’t want the fight or not, but he certainly didn’t help himself by asking Pacquiao to take blood tests.
Mayweather should have been observant enough to see early on in the negotiation process that it was something that was a stressor for Pacquiao and not productive to putting a fight together with him. If Mayweather wanted a big $25 million dollar payday, he should have backed down on the request once he understood that this was something that Pacquiao felt strongly about. It would have been simple for Mayweather to back down, but he didn’t. And if he still insists on the blood tests taking place in the future, it looks like Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.
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But surely 14 days is plenty of time to ‘recover’?!?!?
i still don’t understand why people are so adverse to better testing in boxing. pacquiao is human and we can never know unless we know. like you said “if” he were taking PEDs, that “if” will forever be the subject of the debate until it becomes “is” or “is” not. its as simple as that. i don’t buy the bs about mayweather having an advantage simply because of manny taking a blood test. if i were inclined to believe something like that i would also believe that mayweather would be weakened too, and wouldn’t that make it uh, fair?
you make a very good argument but the problem is you are arguing on behalf of pacquiaos virtues as a person. with all do respect i am sure you don’t know him personally, nor do you know whats really going on in his life. neither do i and that’s exactly why i would like to quit guessing and be sure with simple testing. i know this may sound stupid to some people out there but its not just pac, i think all fighters should take better testing.
i was totally disgusted with margarito when they caught him using plaster to load his gloves. this is not baseball or football where one mans cheating can lead to more home-runs, this is a sport where people can easily die from cheating. there is something, to me, very sacred about boxing as an intimate mano a mano competition where fighters put their body and souls on the line for the sake of entertaining me. i really appreciate the sacrifices fighters make reguarless of the money they make from fighting. that said, i don’t know how or why boxing would not benefit from making better testing mandatory. you know since this whole mess about random testing came out numerous articles have surfaced about fighters failing drug tests and being caught using PEDs. floyd himself has been criticized for using painkillers during fights and its funny to hear him talk about cleaing up boxing on one hand, but on the other hand its a step in the right direction. to me this whole PED thing is beyond both pacquiao and mayweather. it should be standard simply because we can never know unless we know.
Yo armthelandless….
If Pacquiao was really taking illegal performance enhancing drugs such as PED, HGH, dont you think there would be outside investigation by now ? The reason why there is no investigation is that there is absolutely no evidence, whatsoever, not even a witness or even a circumstantial evidence. If u notice theres not even one legitimate public news about it. Also, if thats really legitimate concern then someone with proper authority would enforce that on Pacquiao. That said theres actually really no need to really prove himself if hes innocent or guilty, certainly NOT because Floy Mayweather or his fans says so.
For one, who the hell is Floyd anyway ? He doesnt have the authority to change the rules or over-ride the commissions rule ? Because its just a baseless accusation therefore its not a legitimate random blood testing demand. It just boils down to just agreeing to someones baseless demand and that someone is the challenger in the first place who doesnt even have the right to make such a demand. Since its not legitimate as far as the authorities are concern then its just a bullying, disrespecting tactic just to pamper Floys ego.
And for Floyd fans or Pac haters its not like they gonna jumb on Pacquiaos side once he tested negative. More than likely if he did tested negative Floyd fans and Pac haters will never be satisfied and will even say that he probably did something to masked the drug or paid the testers, or whatever. Of course, there will always be die hard Floyd fans and Pac haters. You have to live with that.
And like I said, Mayweather already has the physical advantage what more does he want ? A guaranteed win for himself ?? And its not a complaint, Im just trying to point it out that he already has the advantage, why does he want more ?? This are proofs that Mayweather is just a trash talker who talks trash only when hes not confronted or when theres no fight….kind of like the brave guy whos saying all this crap and when you come closer and confront him he just all of a sudden just shut-up…think about that
@toxic
i didn’t know that Camacho was a 7 division champ and one thanks for that bit of knowledge and two, no disrespect to you or Camacho but i think there is a reason no one really talks about it. if it is not mentioned much maybe it is because like you said, they were minor titles. Pacquiao is fighting world champions not “minor” champions. all of his belts are linear championship belts. in other words he is fighting and beating the best of the best in all those divisions. as for testing Armstrong and Camacho and all that mess, like i said it may be unfair to Pacquiao but this is the steroid era and i believe its his duty to show us how clean fighters get down. not just his but everyone’s’ duty. the Olympics don’t do random blood tests for nothing.
let me ask you a simple question, why don’t you want Pacquiao to any fighter to take random blood tests? if it were the other way around, if Pacquiao were fighting someone suspected of using PEDs would you want that fighter to take random blood tests?
TO ALL YOU PACQUIAO FANS WHO THINK HE AND FREDDIE ARE INCAPABLE OF USING STEROIDS
Trainer Freddie Roach said, “The Ruiz fight, James was coming off an injury and we didn’t have enough time for it to completely heal. He wasn’t at one-hundred percent. The steroids didn’t seem to affect him at all, we didn’t even know it was still in his system for that fight. James was just himself in the Ruiz fight. His boxing ability won him the fight.
NOW, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK HE’S NOT DOING THE SAME THING WITH PAC….LMAO
mayweather – (may-weth-er) past
other related words; chicken ; duck ; cheater ; fraud ; envy ; jealousy ; liar
meaning/definition: One who cheats or deceives; an impostor; a deceiver; a cheater. The obtaining of property from another by an intentional active distortion of the truth. A cowardly or fearful person. Dodger. A feeling of discontent or covetousness with regard to another’s success, possessions, etc.. Deception deliberately practiced with a view to gaining an unlawful or unfair advantage. Fear of loss. A person who knowingly utters falsehood; one who lies.
haha! lol!
there’s a saying: U can’t please everyone. all i can say is just enjoy it while U still can see a talented, gifted, hardworking person that gives inspiration to many people and not to wait for the last minute when everythings are too late…
@armthelandless
paquiao is not the only “worlds 7 division champion”
HECTOR MACHO CAMACHO IS ALSO A 7 DIVISION CHAMPION the reason that it was not made a big deal ( which in my opinion is wrong) was that 4 of those 7 belts he had were minor belts. but still he fought in 7 diffirent weight divisions and became a champion.
so are we going to say that hector macho camacho was using peds and hgh as well?? heck lets say that henry armstrong was tainted as well he did became 3 weight division champion all at the same time, so pls this “im just trying to clean up boxing ” belief is all a bunch of BS.
your scared u make excuses, nuff said
@ Titan
I Love eating your lunch because it makes you MAD that you can’t do anything about it. Because you are don’t have common sense. First off lets seen when Morales and Pacquaio first fought..uuhhh yeah it was 2005. what year is it now? yeah its 2010. So, let me see if i am understanding you correctly. You are saying that since Manny blood came back negative in 2005, that he is negative in 2010. Where do they allow you to use a 5 year bloodtest? Nowhere. So, this is all i am say. Just because he was clean then doesn’t make him clean now. He is moving through weight class and gain power as he moves and the weight didn’t affect his stamina at all. FYI, if you don’t know what the means it is FOR YOUR INFO. HGH help you build muscle mass and definition at the same time it builds speed and power. Sounds like Manny to me. I am not saying he is guility, i am just saying you shouldn’t be so ignorant to think that he is clean when you don’t know. Like i have said before, Floyd could be using it as well but atleast he is willing to take a blood test to prove he isn’t. So please don’t try to go back 5 years and use a blood test when we are in 2010.
well said x-ray
oh by the way that below feedback is for U jaysmooth
we can go over and over again, ok, do me a favor and set aside your floydnuthugging and just clear your mind for few minutes because the kfc virus is spreading on your brain and U keep insisting that pacquiao’s taking something illegal, dont worry i just like to enlighten U, after this I will not bother and waste my time replying your childish feedback, it is up to U on how U going to take it, if U are clever U will catch my point. remember the morales fight when they took blood from pacquiao because they said that the specimen was lost, pacquiao didnt expect that to happen (take note: “he didn’t expect that”, so if he’s taking some kind of drugs/steroids/etc. he cannot flush it out his system right away because as what U said on your past feedback it takes daysss to take it out) but pacquiao let them take his blood even it is against his will but just for the fight to carry on. the result of that blood test is what? yes, it’s “NEGATIVE” for any drugs/ped’s/whatsoever. don’t get me wrong, i like boxing even the fighters are not well known, sometimes i even like to watch some boxing on my tv because i believe that if that boxer made it to the top i can say that i saw the way he fight before he reach his greatness, it excite me, that’s what i feel now because i saw pacquiao when he was just a skinny guy, not known by anyone, not fighting for the money because the prize is only few bucks, U cant even raise a family or buy steroid hehehe, i saw him knocking out opponents in phil. and it dissapoint me to see someone like floyd who envy pacquiao and do almost everything (steroid/drugs accusation/a-meth what?) just to see him fall, Im just against that kind of mentality, anyway now it’s up to U…
Try picturing this in your mind.
Floyd Jr fans in a huddle around Roger and Floyd Sr. waiting for them to open their mouths. Waiting for the prophets to spew the words of boxing knowledge.
Mayweather’s trying to convince the most intelligent of all boxing fans. Laying the foundation and the smoking gun that will convince the masses.
Floyd Sr. goes first:
“You know that they make the best PED’s in the Philippines”.
Floyd Jr Fans:
OMG!
REALLY?
I KNEW IT!
I’ve always had my suspicions.
That’s where everyone’s been getting it.
Those no good 3rd world cheats!
You shouldn’t fight that dirty guy.
Yeah I’m with you Floyd.
I had a hunch but I couldn’t get my finger on it.
It is what it is man.
Roger Mayweather:
He’s been taking that special ‘A-Side Meth’
Floyd Jr. Fans:
A HA!!!!
That’s what I’m talkin bout.
I knew it was the A-Side Meth.
Yeah, I heard about that stuff.
Philippines is the number one maker of A-Side Meth.
Floyd Sr:
I would advice my son not to Fight Manny Pacquiao
Roger Mayweather:
We should take on the challenge but we’ll have our conditions to let them know we are serious about this fight.
( Scuffle in the back ground ) Roger Screaming: B!*&h! What the F%*@ do you mean you don’t have my money? ( Hear a girl screaming in the back ground ) i told you I’d F%*@ you up if you don’t have my money.
Floyd Sr:
Yeah, we’ll ask for some serious blood test to let them know that they can’t gt away with that ‘A-Side Meth’
Floyd Sr. screams: Don’t be such a hog Roger. Give me some of that b!*&h.
Floyd Jr Fans talking amongst themselves.
Floyd Jr is the best man, he said so himself.
Yeah man, he cares about us.
He specially loves you, yeah you with the pink shirt.
Manny is dirty if he refuses to take the test.
We know he’s dirty. Roger and Floyd Sr. said so.
Yeah and other fighters too.
Okay! Where can I get me some of that A-SIDE METH?
first of all, Mayweather, the accuser, is trying to prove both his and Pacquiao’s ‘innocence/cheating by asking for testing. how better than to shut everyone up by taking the tests? besides this is not something that is singling out pacquiao because mayweather will be subject to the same testing. second, it is because there is a whole country behind him and also history (the first and only 7 division champion) that someone like Pacquiao would avoid blood testing assuming he were using PEDs. all that accomplishment and all the accolades will evaporate in an instant and he would go from hero to sham worse than people bonds, McGuire or Marion Jones. they were high profile athletes but Pacquiao is much bigger in terms of historical and sociological significance. none of them were “Americas” heroes whereas i bet there are no more than 10 people in the Philippines that don’t support Pacquiao.
third, you should not complain about the physical disadvantages pacquiao has vs Mayweather or any other welterweight for that matter because Pacquiao chose to move up and compete at that division. its as simple as that.
Look..Floyd fans…why are you serious about this random blood testing as if you really believe that Pac is really on steroids ? There’s not one evidence to prove that…its not up to him to prove that hes innocent, its the accuser who has to prove that’s hes guilty! Not agreeing to random blood test also doesn’t prove thats hes hiding something or because there’s inconsistency in their answers it still doesn’t mean anything! He wouldn’t file a defamation lawsuit if hes guilty
Come on…you think filing a defamation lawsuit is free ? and why would he waste a lot of money trying to do that if hes guilty ? Not only that there’s a whole country that’s at stake for his reputation besides everything else….no hes not like Barry Bonds and others who files a lawsuit even though they were actually guilty…Pac is totally clean..
And speaking about fair level palying fields….Floyd already has the reach and height advantage with a reach of 72″ and 5′-8″ while Pac with only 67″ at 5′-6-1/2″. Still he complains about fair level playing field and wants Pac to be weak when hes fighting ? Come on…whos the real chicken ?
I thought he said he can whoop, dismantle, school Pacs ass wether hes on steroids or not ? What more advantage doe he want ? Obviously everything to ensure a guaranteed win for him
…too bad Pac is not that stupid !
There is no point to argue who duck who,just visit boxinginsider.com and read Malinowski article”Floyd trying to talk his way to victory over Pacquiao”.All the excuses are garbage.it expose the real ducker.
@Too_Many_Idiots
oh, i am the idiot. but you are the one who can’t accept someone elses opinion because ur blinded to the fact. so, that makes u an idiot for not understand what is being said. So, let me explain to you again..what is being said is, there is a possibiity that he could be taking them just like any other fighter. But, since he is refusing to take them regardless if he is innocent, he look suspicious. They would both be subject to the same test. Do you understand now?
floyd wanted day of, pac wanted 24, the compromise would have been 14 and pac said no deal.
@jaysmooth
You are an idiot.
That is all.
@Too_Many_Idiots says
I know exactly what you post said. Like i said then and i will say now. they are not going to train all out the last few days of training camp anyways. You are not going to risk having your prize fighter jump in the ring with your best sparring guy and let them go at it. they will be fine toon there fight plan. Working on minor changes. They isn’t going to be alot of weight lifting or heavy running. Because anyone who has competed in any type of sports know that doesnt happen. You weightlift and train hard early in your training camp then you fine tone at the end. you keep the fighter focused on his game plan. So, quit using the he will be weak garbage as an excuse.
its funny to hear Manny Pacquiao’s defenders using religion to assume his innocence. i mean, really? weren’t all those catholic priests “deeply religious” when they were molesting all those boys? aren’t a lot of those baptist preachers deeply religious when they were involved in there money schemes and sex scandals? give us a break people, we’re smarter than that! when dealing with human nature with as much money and historical significance on the line i think it would be wise to make sure that everyone is clean. Pacquiao asked for a 10 million dollar penalty for every pound that Mayweather came in over weight and he agreed. so why wouldn’t he then agree to Mayweathers’ demand for random blood tests. one thing that needs to be said for sure is the blood tests will, in the end, benefit Manny more than Mayweather. there are lots of boxing fans out there who like me, cannot help but regard Manny Pacquiao with suspicion after his hardheaded refusal to take the tests. especially when he brings up this superstition mumbo-jumbo while having all those tattoos. i totally understand the line that he never tested positive for anything at any time in his career so he should get the benefit of the doubt. i understand it but i totally disagree. i think Pacquiao has to take the responsibility to show us fans that he is a fair player. Mayweather will take the same tests but in the end it will be Pacquiao who would benefit more because it would show all of us skeptical fans that he really is that great. it may not be fair to Pacquiao and worse yet, it may appear to b a Mayweather victory but should Manny simply agree to testing it would be a great move for him and boxing in general. and should he come out the winner in a fight between him and Mayweather, would be debating the top three boxers of all time with Manny definitely in the mix.
Floyd demanding? No way. Let it be a boxing commission standard and Pac will abide. In the end, it is not about the blood test, it is about Floyd bullying Pac. If PED can make Pac fly, then that’s different. Floyd is just scared.
As for the xylocaine or lidocaine is there any proof that he’s used it in any recent fights? I mean De La Hoya used it against Bernard Hopkins didn’t do him much good. The footage people are referring to was like from 2001 or 2002 and they interviewed Margaret Goodman M.D. who is she might you ask, only the Nevada Chief Ringside Physician, now I ask you if they’re interviewing her and she doesn’t once mention it’s illegal in the video neither does Jim Lampley, I don’t see what the big fuss is if he used something that was legal back in 2001. Ya’ll say he cheated but obviously he didn’t if it was legal at the time, now if someone can prove that he’s using it now thats a different case, the Hattons had lidocaine banned from their fight with Floyd I never heard of Floyd failing the drug test then
@JAYSMOOTH
Read my comment again, I said days 14-12 before the fight, not Days 5 – 7.
Learn to read, idiot.
@XRay
The French didnt have evidence to accuse Lance Armstrong either. They just knew what he was doing had never been done before. So, they accused him. Just like Barry Bonds and the 73 homeruns. Once you go against history and do it at a level no one as seen before without having any draw back. Yes, it suspicious and it should be looked into. Tim Montgemory was the world record holder in the 100m . I ran track in college. I had a teammate of mine that beat him. I saw it with my own eyes. Tim ran a 10.3 and my boi J4 ran a 10.17. The next year time was running 9.8 secs in 100m. You don’t just take that muchtime off in that short period of time. Tim continued to shed time until he broke the world record. So, he go from running 10.3 to 9.7 in a matter of 2 yrs. Thats not normal. He would have never gotten caught if it wasn’t for his trainer Trevor Graham. This was the guy who turn Marion and Tim up for juicing. Yet, they never tested positive til this date. Shane never tested positive either. That is another example of how there wasn’t any proof. So, quit saying there isn’t any proof.
@wowzabean
I saw the video of Pacquaio talking about it but I also saw the boxing series 24/7 when he had blood taking from him, and he looked fine, but more importantly I saw the Morales fight, he clearly just lost, back then all he had was a left hand and Morales avoided it. What did Freddie Roach say, after that fight he was going to make Pacquaio a more well rounded fighter and he did. Roach never said oh my fighter lost because of the blood being taken. So my question is if they took blood from Pacquaio I’m sure they took it from Morales so if having blood taken from u makes u weak, shouldn’t they both have been weak? And for the record that blood taking thing is bs how many fights has Pacquaio been in a looked a bloody mess?
@XRay you call a 10million dollar fine a detterent. I call that an insurance policy. If at the weigh in Mayweather is over a pound a 10million penalty would be inforced and the fight would be called off if they’re fighting for Pacquaio’s belt. Championships can’t be exchanged if fighters don’t make weight remember the late Diego Corrales that fight was called off because he couldn’t make weight. Now if people want to Crown Manny fighter of the decade yadda yadda, if he’s fighting welterweights how about letting them weigh 147
Im sorry but i have to say this. First of all i need to say i am not a mayweather fan. I think he is a arrogant,loud mouth A hole who is more interested in money than anything else. So after i say this i do not want pac fans to say:”your a mayweather nutthugger” because it will only prove you are stupid. We all know that Manny is all about his fans, we all know that this 14 day cut off window was on the table for a while,real boxing fans know that doing what manny did going up in weight and showing ALL muscle is odd. Then why in the world would you blame mayweather for making sure he is clean? I honestly believe that most pacquiao fans just started watching boxing and dont care to look at the situation from a logical piont of view. So there is really no piont of trying to argue with them. they dont have the knowledge to answer common sense questions. So we might as well stop trying.
Pacquiao is willing to take the blood test right after the fight. So if there are drugs in his system, it will come out. Mayweather is just afraid of getting his first loss! He is afraid that when he lost to someone, his market value will diminished. So to all Pac fans, just ignore this loud, foul mouth attitude of MONEY because he is a businessman and knows how make people hate him which in turn makes people want him to lose. We all know that the PACMAN will break him and by the time it is finished he wont be called Pretty Boy anymore.
solini,
How did the Mayweather camp know? There’s a video of Pacquiao talking about the Morales fight and why he lost all over the internet. If some Joe Schmoe can find it, you don’t think a multi million dollar corp like Golden Boy can’t. He clearly knew that close to the fight would be an issue. He pressed it to either get a mental advantage, or to avoid the fight period.
reply to NoPacFan: U STFU because floydie already cheated by using xylocaine and over weight to gain advantage to a smaller opponent so SYFM U morone! if u got nothing good to say STFU stupid!
I dont need no testing, because im inocent.. where is your proof ?? im afraid of needles…I about pass out when i get my tattos !! I dont want blood drawn, it makes me weak… but I spill about a gallon of blood DURING my fights !!I guess im ok with blood testing just let me know when you are coming !! NO RANDOM !! IM THE FIGHTER OF THE CENTURY NEXT !!
@ Roy…
I doubt the validity of that, because how was Mayweather’s Camp supposed to know by asking for a random drug test that Pacquaio woul decline resulting in the fight not happening. Either way Floyd haters would pin this on him either way. What if he didn’t agree to the outrageous never heard of before fine of 10 million for every pound over the limit, oh let me guess, Mayweather’s scared of Pac-man, lmao you Pac-man fans are hilarious, I’m just courios before his rise to fame who did yall cheer for
so i guess all pinoys are puki
since your god manny is a puki
Wilson your stupid, because wasn’t it a welterweight fight? Isn’t the limit 147, granted they agreed on a catch weight but wasn’t it up to Marquez to fight or not? I believe it was he took the money and fought on. Now everyone knows Floyd’s a welterweight why should he come down in weight if you’re agreeing to fight him? If making 147 is a problem stay your lil ass in your division simple as that. And lastly Mayweather weighed in at 146& Marquez 142 the fight was at 144 STUPID!
Pacquiao/Mayweather fight will never happen Scoop Malinowski of Boxinginsider.com said that a friend of Harmon the adviser of Floyd said that back in december they knew that Floyd could’nt win against a smiling lil’ asian.they could’nt imagine Floyd getting a knock out so they find a way to back out with this blood test demand.The guy’s name who spilled the beans is George Peterson even Hopkins way back last November said that he doesnt believe Floyd/Pacquiao fight will ever happen.Hope Mosley and Pacquiao will win so that there will be a super fight with out outrageous demand from both side ,enjoy.
Solini.. you’re so stupid the $10 mil overweight limit is justified because Floyd cheated 3 lbs heavier his last fight with marquez.
As I read the Pac-man supporters who call Mayweather a chicken, coward etc, etc, etc. The one thing I never hear yall talk about is Manny’s camp demanding Mayweather pay 10 million for every pound he comes in over weight!!! And what did Mayweather do, he agreed. And as most of you think Mayweather is desperate for money is he came in 3 pounds over that would pretty much be his end of the money for a fight against Pac-man. Now why would Manny’s camp ask this, oh let’s see because they haven’t fought any welterweight at the 147 limit. Now why is that, maybe because you’re fighting dehydrated WEAKENED fighters, oh I forget it’s okay for Manny to have the advantage at everyone trying to get bigger people to come down in their size but in a fight at lightweight he felt weakened by blood and doesn’t want that, LMAO!!!
@Jason Kim
Why do you think Mayweather was so adamant in his stance about random blood testing and why not just back down if he’s really into “MoneyMay, Legacy Dont Pay Bills, Philthy Rich, money, money, money thing? That would leave only one explanation for his ridiculous and stupid terms: Absolute ‘FEAR’.
I know why these Floyd brown nossers just want Pacman so bad to take the test on fight day because they want him to be weak just like what happened to…that’s why…they don’t him to win…
I thought Floyd says he can whoop him with or without
steroids ??? I thought Pacs’ a small guy…i thought hes a one-dimensional fighter….i thought Floyd is far more
superior ?….and i thought Floyd is cleaning up boxing so
why is he taking xylocaine where its considered illegal in
all states except maybe Nevada…
mayweather is an ass who dont deserve the fight, he needs a reality check and some humble pie!
hey what
And if they really want to challenge and fight Pacman it should be under the Champions (Pacmans) terms and conditions, no more, no less ! For thats where the moneys at. period.
Can you imagine a challenger dictating the terms to Floyd if
someone wants to challenge him for a fight and asking for more
money than him for the split ??? think about it fools..
Pacman can say anything he wants but still doesn’t mean hes
taking steroids ! Hes following the trash talking lead from Floyd ! lol !
And these Floyd fans literally believes that the Mayweathers
actually offered the 14 day cut-off crap…
Seems like they believe anything their idol says….no matter what ! lol !
Hey if these Floyd fans and Pac haters are really serious about RANDOM BLOOD TESTING they should start petitioning their State boxing drug testing commissions, etc, etc. The rules will never be change if its only application is just for one person so if you want it change it has to be for every athletics across the board !! U just don’t demand for someone you don’t like, unless youre just a Floyd as
kisser ! yep a Floyd brown nosser, whatever he says you
follow….hmmmm
Remember the Mayweathers dont even have a little crumb for evidence to accuse Pacman – just a lot of bul
(non scientific) ASSumption !!
Ha !ha! ha! Pacman is just f**kng with Lil Floyd ! lol !
Why shouldn’t he ??? You accused him of taking steroids so why not ???
Do you really think hes taking steroids now because he just wants immediately after the fight and a day before the fight ???
You are not satisfied until he does EXACTLY what Floyd says ??? Think about this : What if Floyd didn’t say anything about random testing up to fight day, what would you have said then ???
You guys are just plain hilarious, ludicrous, ridiculous…and stupid !
IF YOURE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THIS RANDOM BLOOD TESTING WHY DONT FLOYD START IT NOW, LEAD THE WAY AND HAVE THE USADA DO THE FIRST OFFICIAL BLOOD TEST ON FIGHT DAY ON HIM INCLUDING MOSLEY, SINCE FLOYD IS THE CRUSADER ?? AS A MATTER OF FACT ANY PRO FIGHTERS, ANY WEIGHT DIVISION, ANYWHERE IN THE U.S.
Why dont Floyd fans and Pac haters start the process now by having their idols start doing random blood test – no wait a minute – during fight day. According to the Mayweathers its now widely known that urine testing doesn’t catch steroids, so logically any pro boxers are suspects for taking steroids !
Dont tell me just because youre on a winning streak youre on steroids. Steroids doesn’t make you invincible nor does it make you any faster…
You guys need leave this issue alone now, for it is over and we cannot keep bringing this issue again. It’s over! Manny moved on, and Floyd should move on as well. As for the writer, need to move on as well. For some of you making comments about the cut off day, stop making comments,for you guys don’t even have any clue on what happened during the negotiation. This fitht will never happen…live with it.
What the hell kind of calendar does this guy use?
Day of the fight means 3 weeks before?
Won’t fight Mosley at 147, only at 142.
Won’t fight Foreman, too tall. (although he fought DLH who’s the same height)…oh wait, that’s because DLH was willing to go to Ethiopia and come back at 147, a weight he hadn’t fought at for like 7 years?
Hell, the guy wouldn’t even fight Miguel Cotto at 147 for a 147 belt. Nah, he wanted a 142 catchweight.
These are the hallmarks of an ATG?
LOL, I don’t think so.
As soon as I saw the Headline I was like “hear we go, is Manny going to bury himself in more excuses.”
Pacquiao had no problems with taking the blood tests, saying, “I’m not against blood testing, just not the day of the fight. I’ve had that happen in the [first Erik] Morales fight. I lost that fight and my body felt very weak. I don’t feel I recovered. That is why I don’t want blood testing close to the fight.”
WELL IF THAT IS THE CASE, WHAT IS WRONG WITH A 14 DAY CUT-OFF WINDOW? THAT’S TWO WEEKS OF RECOVERY TIME. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK. I LIKE HOW EVERYONE IS HAPPY TO ASK FLOYD ALL THE HARD QUESTIONS, BUT YET DON’T DO THAT TO MANNY.
Pacquiao says “I don’t think Mayweather wanted the fight. He had too many reasons to cancel the fight.
FLOYD REASONS: RANDOM DRUG TEST THROUGH THE TRAINING CAMP
MANNY REASONS: SCARED OF NEEDLES, BELIEVES BLOOD DRAW THE DAY OF A FIGHT WEAKENS HIM, WANTS THE COMMISSION RULES FOR THE DRUG TEST
Manny should just give a no comment when this question is brought up. I just want 1 damn reporter to ask my question from the beginning. They call Floyd out on his interviews, why not do that with Manny.
1. He dont want a test on the day of the fight but wouldnt agree to 14 days previous. hhmm
2. 2 previous boxers from Roach gym have been tested positive for steroids. hhmm
3. Without us fans there would be no fights and the fact haters want to see floyd loose more than manny win must count for something. Money follows mayweather not by accident, not because of 40-0, but because of the emotional HATERS.
better if the fight never happen between PACMAN and aFROYD. Manny doesn’t deserve this fighter cause he has EVERYTHING. and aFROYD it’s time to re-retired and count the balls you have if you have it, and stay on your DAD’s underwear, you need a B….FEED to grow.. either you’re a child.
mayweather wants random blood testing up til the fight, this was turned down.
floyd then offered 14 day cut off b4 the fight- turned down.
pacman says as long as its not the day of the fight. 14 days before hand is not the day of the fight. This does not add up pacman.
Mayweather has not backed down on his drug testing and why should he? Pacmans KO percentage has increased by 30% since his first 20 fights!
you say pacman has never failed a drug test. Guess what? Mosley hasnt either.
the drugs test pacman will take after the fight is irrelevent as certain peds can exit the body within 18 hours.
Urine tests are not the way to find cheats. PEDS have become more sophisticated and its about time drug testing did too.
Even though he is your hero youve gotta open your eyes and see whats staring you in the face. Sheesh.
Well your the one who left the table and signed on for a fight with clottey. And if your ok with testing as long as its not on the day of the fight why not accept the 14 day cutoff?
So you really wont take a blood test 14 days before a fight?
You must be on steriods then. PERIOD.
Whats the problem? You are acting like an athlete who has been taking steroids. Just take the damn tests
The author of this email should open his eyes and read Manny’s quote again and find the hypocrisy in it…for anyone who thinks Mayweather tried to pull out remember that Freddie Roach said they need a 3-5 day cut off, Manny just as he said now said he only has a problem with testing the DAY of the fight, and Bob Arum said he can try to make Manny agree to 14 days BEFORE Mayweather had even offered it because he felt that date would be fair…so Mayweather hearing all this had no reason what so ever to assume that approaching them with a 14 day cut off would be turned down (its exactly what all 3 of them said they’d be cool with) it was a matter of Manny turning back on his word and he just did it again by saying he’s cool with testing just as long as its not the day of the fight
take the g.d. tests or STFU !! only a cheater dont want random testing..
so your saying that the only way to gain power and strength is to use steroid only? and pacquiao which you and floydie (which already proved using xylocaine) accuse pacquiao of using steroid WITHOUT any proof and who’s working very hard to gain power and strength is not true? hey you got a kfc virus man, u better check out that brain of yours
reply to jaysmooth: so tell me what is the nsac boxing rules for drug testing ever since? yes correct it is urine testing so it is better for floyd to work under nsac rather than a boxer ei, oh i forgot floyd is a bum and daddy floydie sr. didn’t finished school, shame, but they trash talk like they know everything and stupid people follow/believe their nonesense ei
Manny has stated back in 2005 that he felt weak after having
his blood taken. The problem I see with that is something
very easy to comprehend. If he is weak after having blood
taken, that would mean that there would be a few days during
his training that he will be weak and not able to properly
train, I believe that is why he don’t want the test in 14 days.
Fourteen days minus 3 or 4 days of training while week makes
about 10 or 11 days of training before the fight, plus he
probably won’t be training on the travel day from LA to Dallas.
As far as some people asking how can Manny walk away from a $25 million fight? Folks, life in the Philippines is nowhere near like it is in the US. The nation is not as lucky
as the US. Quality of life there is not as good, the cost of
living in the Philippines is expensive to the people of the
Philippines, but if you were to take the wages earned in the
US to the Philippines, you would live much much better than
the average Filipino. One Thousand US Dollars goes a lot
further in the Philippines than it goes in the US. Manny has
made enough money that probably more than 20 generations of
Pacquiao’s won’t have to worry about a peso. It’s not about
Money for Manny.
Another note on the blood testing. I believe Manny feels
weak after giving blood. I spent 26 years in the Navy and
Navy Reserves. I’ve been on many Ships. A ship is considered
underway as soon as the last line is released from the pier.
At that moment, the word is passed “Underway, shift Colors”.
That means the ship is no longer tied to the pier and it is
self contained. There are a lot of Sailors that get SEASICK
as soon as they hear those words. It’s not in their head,
it’s real. I’ve been on more Airplanes than you can fit on
any runway. I’ve sat beside Frequent Flyers, folks that fly
sometimes 3 or more times a week. I sat beside one guy that
flew every other day, and each time, he gets motion sickness
as soon as the plane starts to back away from the gate. I
personally have no problem giving blood, sailing on ships,
or flying in planes, but if I even hear someone getting sick,
I get sick. Everyone is different. You can’t compare others
to yourself.
For those that don’t believe Manny about the blood test,
here is a link of an interview conducted in 2005.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVvn3JBLZL4
Although I’d love to see Manny vs Mayweather, I don’t
think it will ever happen. Floyd knows Manny would win. In
my opinion also, Floyd is in no position to be the main
bargaining factor. He retired, and gave up everything he was.
Not Manny holds all that, and much much more. If it can’t
be 50/50 then I say 60/40 or 70/30 to the winner. But, Floyd
won’t fight Manny.
May we please throw the argument out that either fighter is scared to face eachother. May, Pac, whoever, these fighters put their lives on the line everytime they enter the ring, and that’s without mentioning future issues from receiving repeated head trauma.
Jaysmooth go get a job and stop worring about Pacquiao
lol.. and no one thought Tiger Woods was doing anything either. Because he played the cool, calm and collect thing to a tee. No, one really thought A-Rod was jucing either because he was a heart-throb and The face of Baseball. NO, one thought Marion Jones was juicin either because she capture the hearts of all track and field fans. So, don’t sit and think for one moment that PacMan can’t be juicing that would be so crazy to think that way.
@ Jayshoot;
If you want to accuse me of something that i didn’t do but because i am in the military. Thats called guility by association. So, let take that same thing and apply it to Manny. Correct me if I am wrong but didn’t Freddie Roach have two of his fighter test positive for steroids in the past. So, why are u defending Manny. He should be guility by association as well. Point proven you guys are a bunch of blabber mouths and don’t know what you talking about..Its ok to like a guy but you don’t have to think he is a Saint.
also his team keep talkin about how hes been tested but how often tested by blood testing and how often has it been random?thats what i thought..not to mention that nobody cares about his featherweight days since he was skinny and fighting guys his own size the suspiciouns comes from jumpin up in weight and still being fast,strong,powerful, and only put on muscleweight and beating up bigger guys.
all he has to do is take random blood testing to prove it wrong and it would be a slap in everyones face who though he was
@ Titan..
it obvious you didn’t read my post.. I never said he had to put on weight. I just said that he could use the PEDs to gain strength and power.. You don’t have to gain weight to gain those things.
@TITAN and Jayshoot;
first of all I wasnt told that i would be subject to random drug test. Once i got in then i knew. yes, the military have there own rules for governing there drug test. But if i didn’t take them then i would be seen as guility and would be punished like i was guility.
i have no idea whether pbf wants to clean up the sport or not or if he jus wants to b 100% on a level playin field. but if he along with many others believe something suspicious his team hav every right to ask for a test, this is a bloodsport and very dangerous u shouldnt take that chance..and its not like pbf wont be taking the test..so he wont b any stronger come fight night.
and i dnt know whats manny talking about nobody wanted him to take a test on the day of the fight the deadline was 14 days before the fight which means as usual pac and his team have no idea what there talkin about and contradict themselves..a guy who doesnt wana take a $20 mill drug test and changes story is the guy who doesnt wana fight someone or is dirty.
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If he doesn’t want to do it the day of the fight, why didn’t he accept the 14 day cut off period? Makes no sense other than both sides have too much ego to compromise.
All boxers should be randomly tested as are all Olympic athletes.
Pacquiao is a deeply religious man who was a thief as a kid and is rumored to be cheating on his wife with actress Krista Randillo. Pacquiao was seen with her in her vehicle after a training session during the preparation for the Cotto fight in Las Vegas.
Don’t be naive people, he is a human being. Human beings are flawed individuals. Humans are known to use God in ways you couldn’t even imagine.
I don’t care how much religiion Pacquiao claims to have. If he can steal and cheat on his wife, then he is capable of unknowingly using PEDs.
Pacquiao was recently spotted with Julio Ceasar Chavez Sr. Apparently its down to Chavez and Camacho for Pacquiao’s next fight after Clottey.
is floyd scared of pacman. Is he scared that he might lose that zero and will be to ashamed to return to boxing. FLoyd does not have a right to issue blood tests. If this fight went on, it would be a 50 50 fight.
The cheating issues involving Pacquiao are just marketing strategies to hype his movies.
This type of hyping is common in the Philippines.
Initially when the negotiations for the fight began, I didn’t know what to think about the whole thing. But as thing have played out and the fight is know an after thought the excuses for not taking the blood test have been many, the latest being manny just did not want to be tested the day of the fight. As far as I know, that was never part of the negotiations, so why is manny now saying that. Once again another excuse. I personally don’t believe manny is using peds, but I am convinced that he taking something that might be questionable, why all the excuses? Although I’m a Floyd fan I also have question with him as well, like why ask for the test to begin with. If you truly are what you say you are then you should be able to dispose of manny easily. After all didn’t de la hoya destroy a roided out Vargas, and in my opinion he won one of those matches against a roided out mosley as well (even though he didn’t get the decision)? Between the both of them they have shared many accolades in boxing so you would expect more from the two CLAIMED p4p.
There is no basis to think that Pacquiao is taking something even with his refusal to take blood test. There is no evidenxe, not even circumstantial, save for his refusal. The blood tests were Mayweather’s concotion. As he realized how much against it Pacquiaa was, he latched on to it more so. ight.
It is more convincing that Mayweather is ducking Pacquiao than Pacquiao’s taking steroids, especially in light of more recent development. Mayweather now wants PAcquiao to take blood tests on the day of the fight, not just 14 days before as was his original demand. He’s also going to demand that Pacquia;s share be $10-15 millions less than his, on the basis that he has a perfect record and Pacquiao was KO’d twice, as well as his claim that he still is the P4P king, as he has never lost the title. This is completely irrational. The title is honorific given out by Ring Magazine. He did lose it!
His accomplishment is pale compared to Pacquiao’s. Pacquiao has been selected the fighter of the decade, is the current Ring Magazine’s P4P king, and has been the fighter of he year three years in a row. Pacquiao has made history by winning titles in 7 divisions, only Dela Hoya comes close with 6. Pacquiao is the only boxer in histroy to win 4 linear titles. Finally, he knows that poll after poll, Pacquiao comes out the most popular fighter in the world and he the most criticized.
Mayweather knows Pacquio beat up both Hatton and Dela Hoya lopsidedly, while he himself had won a controversail SD to Dela Hoya and had a hard time with Hatton. So why is he being irrational? Plain and simple- he is ducking Pacquiao.
Blood is the issue. If drug will come out either one of them a day before the fight would it mean the fight was off? Mayweather would simply walk away from $20M which I think he will do. So who is walking away from the fight?
reply to jaysmooth: ur in the military and having those testing procedure which is stablished/prefer by the military. before U join the millitary U were been told that they need to test U base on the military rules of drug testing right, and tell me what will the military will tell U if u said “no but test me base on this kind of testing that i got in mind”, what do U think the dr./military/officer or whoever would tell U? go away and f#@k off, excuse my words but i think that’s the right and same answer that must be given to floydie for changing the rules and regulation. floydie will do everything to stay away from the fight that can cause him defeat and think of some BS excuse that stupid people will believe and make him looks like he really wants the fight, good thing is that im not 1 of those stupid to belive his nonesense
@JAYSMOOTH – and don’t tell me your clean coz your dirty as your soul is dirty!
@JAYSMOOTH – obviously you’re in the military, coz you’re dumb as floyd. and US military are known as steroid user that’s why there are a lot of abuses in Iraq and Afghanistan. Shock and Awe your ass! Look what you did to Iraq, have you found what you are looking for? WMD? WMD are in the US idiots! know what? You destroyed Iraq you kill woman and children you raped them! now what JAYSMOOTH???? after killing and raping now what??? shame on you JAYSMOOTH shame on you! you ruin my country JAYSMOOTH you ruin it!
reply to dr. skeptismo aka jaysmooth: woahhh, that’s not smooth, seems like ur the person who dont understand or just playin dumb. pacquiao is already in the 144 on his last weight, then went up to 147 or 148 on fight night with cotto. the weight plan for pacquiao vs floydie is WW which is 147max, so tell me do U think pacquiao still need to take drugs to be on the weight of 147!? exactly, NO! is the answer because he’s already on the weight U morone! if u still dont want to understand it go and cry to your mommy
I am in the military. We are subject to drug test at anytime. Yes, it maybe just urine test. Thats because they are only searching for drugs like weed, coke, pcp, meth and other like that.. But, if i refuse a test even if i know that i am clean, i will be treated like a person who tested positive. WE get test once a year for dieases but during those test, they are checking your blood content for other illegal things as well and if they find something, you will be pentalized accordingly. And we are not told when we will have a drug these its (random). Whether you are deployed to Iraq or AFghan, when its 120-125 degs and you get blood taken from you.. YOu know what they tell us, go drink water and make sure you eat and go back to work. If i gave blood at a blood drive yes, they would give me a day off. But its not like that.
Give me a break,pacquaio says he’s not afraid of blood tests but don’t want to take them up to the day of the fight,well he asked for 24 days before the fight and Mayweather said 14 days, “soooo” what’s the problem ?? can someone help me out here ?? 14 days is not the day before the fight,if you’re scared say you’re scared plus I’d rather see the Mayweather Mosley fight anyway,been waiting on this for years,the Pacquaio Clottey fight gets no interest from me, and if both he and Mayweather win Floyd will still be the one with the upper hand if they ever fight,for 25 million how could Pacquaio not fight,If you’ve got nothing to hide,why didn’t you just take the test ??
Same old story, this writer and mayweather fans are all moron. knowing that their fooling themselves to believe that mayweather really want to fight pacquiao.. We all know that Mayweather is the one who dont want to fight pacquiao as he afraid to lose..By the way a reminder being true American,I mean brave American, never say no to the fight, true american will fight till they die. so to clarify this is only boxing and if mayweather really want to fight manny then just fight. dont ask manny demmand but fight…You writer of this article is disgracing the true american. and to all fans of mayweather as Im one of you guys stop fooling yourself and defend our country man of being coward. no truth american run in a fight.
And who the hell u mayweather fans think mayweather is to demand blood test anyway??? Hes not the commisioner hes not the p4p king, his not even the champ.. why would our hero comply to his demands, his just a piece of CRAPP!!!!
regardless of what u mayweather fans say, PACMAN is stil the best! P4P KING, FIGHTER OF THE YEAR, FIGHTER OF THE “DECADE” !!! I dint think ur cry babby idol would accomplish this things. Not until he beats the pacman but that wont happen coz hes so afraid to fight our hero!!! Long live the king!! Long live the one who fears GOD!!!
the way i see it even if pac agrees to take the test and loses the fight it gives he has a good excuse for losing already
reply to wanted: u see wanted, how simple to make accusation, then again they dont have any proof for pacquiao using PED or any drugs for his entire career. floyd caught having xylocaine now that’s proof but U are still blind, put that on your mind ok.
I clearly mentioned on my comments that after the fight pacquiao’s having blood test, so tell me is that not enough? as u said PED need few days before its gone. read carefully and set aside your floydnuthugging in your mind before posting a stupid comments, now i can say that U are really blind.
xray i jus wan ask u somethin.
wat if manny demanded the blood tests and floyd decline and went n fought clottey right away? wud u b ok wit that. knowin u pactards i kbow u wouldnt b ok wit that
yo xray ur an idiot.
u must believe that barry bonds is the homerun king. and that marion jones 5 gold medals wer all by hard work. do u even make sense? wheres ur boys law suit? was that jus somethin they wanted to say so ppl stop talkin shyt bout em?
u got alot of excuses but u stil cant tell us y they first sayed its ok fo random blood tests then sayed no then sayed 30 days got caught on tape doin it 21 days befo the fight and made it to 24 days. and now they r ok wit blood tests but not the day of the fight? no one asked em to get tested the day of the fight
Just because ya’ll do roids here recreationally doesnt mean they do also do it in other countries like they do here…
And if you drug addicts really believe Pacman is on drugs why dont you call his Attorneys office and offer to testify against him as an expert. Better yet why dont you sign up with Floyds Attorney offering to be an EXPERT WITNESS for his defamation lawsuit, huh ? And if you think NSAC is so corrupt why then do you get a license from them ?? huh ?? Or WHY pay to watch a boxing match when you know that the fighters may all be on roids because the current drug testing agencies doesnt catch roids, remember ??? think about that idiots !!
Pac is clearly using something as he wouldnt come out with such nonsence about blood testing, having a few mm of blod will in not way shape of form weaken you physically. The naive gullable flippas say that ‘he has never been caught so he is clean’ there the ones who make me laugh the most
@RudeDawg’s p4p champion comment:
Really does that make any since. Just because he is the p4p champion he should make the demands. Really, come on. So, since he is the p4p champion, why don’t he fight ummmmh let say Chad Dawson. Because like you said he is the P4P champion and the only way to be the champion is the beat the champion. So, thats enough of who is the P4P champion and that person gets to make the demands. No, lets look at the PPV’s thats tell you who the viewers want to see, whether its to see someone loose or win. The viewer still would pay to see them. You can go and say oh Mayweather opponents were the bigger attraction. But, if you look at the numbers of every fighter before they fought floyd and after they fought floyd they nearly doubled. So, lets say its even. Thats why they agreed on a 50/50 Split. But, if Pacman doesn’t do as well as Floyd after they both fight. then yeah Floyd should have the bigger purse.
The Morales fight is just another excuse, like the countless others he made for that loss. He was clearly outboxed by Morales, in that fight. But, let’s say that he really was weakened by the unexpected test within 2 days of the fight, Mayweather offered him a 14 day cutoff. So, what’s the excuse for not taking that offer.
It Mayweather was trying to use the Morales “situation” to gain an advantage, why would he offer more than a 2-3 day cutoff? Because, he was trying to make the fight! However, he was not going to leave a large window for possible juicing, before the bout.
It’s true Pac has never tested positive, under the current methods. But, those methods are known to be subpar, and today’s PEDs are top of line. So, how could he ever have tested positive? Mosely, did not test positive either, when tested with those same procedures. So, it’s more than obvious these methods do NOT prove that a fighter is NOT using PEDs.
yo xray
u do know that floyd wouldve been subjected to the same testing as pacman would right?. if u didnt know that ur a idiot man
And to add to the Proof that these Floyd fans are really high on drugs is that just because Pacman now says “he doesn’t have a problem with blood testing anyday except the day of the fight”
they take it as another sign of being guilty !!WTF ??? And the more they become even bolder to want it up to fight day !! WTF ??
As a matter of fact it would be commendable if Floyd Mayweather becomes the first example and for him to be the first to do the blood test during fight day with Mosley ( Mosley after) and since he claims hes leading the way cleaning up boxing that would be very appropriate !!
i bet u pactards wer the same ppl that believed barry bonds when he sayed hes clean and it was hard work. and u mustve defended roger clemens the way u defend pacman these days. did u guys feel good when marion jones filed a defamation lawsuit?
or when a-rod sayed hed never use steroids cuz he doesnt even know wat it is.
no one really question manny bout roids. but the way manny acted n made excuses thats when the red lights started goin off.
truth and nothing but the truth…according to mayweather advisor Al Haymon’s associate George Peterson the decision to cancel the Pacquiao-Floyd was made as far back as early December – obviously, because Team Mayweather concluded a boxing match against Manny Pacquiao was a “no win situation”…truth has finally emerged..
at first PED user then A-Meth from a convicted person and these people still believing him? geeezzz U people believe these guys are also sick
@Too_Many_Idiots
You name fits you well. Because, the last 5-7 days of training there isn’t much sparring. If there is, it is not much contact. You are using those last 5-7 days to concentrate on you game plan. You work on the thing that you think the opponent will try to do and how you are going to counter. Don’t get me wrong you do spar but you don’t go all out with it like you would a month out, because if you do. then you risk the chance of getting hurt, cuts, broken hands. So, if they took blood from him 4 days out, he had plenty of time to recover. Also, i am certain that these people know how intense boxers are with their training regiments and they wouldn’t go in everyday and test them. I am almost certain they will have sufficient time in between the test. The thing is, you wouldn’t know when they would come and test you (random).
asking for a blood test during negotiations is hte exact same thing as askin for a welterwieght title fight bien fought at 145 while the guy demanding it was the challenger.
alright titan lets clarify some thing
a scripted fight? because theyr moselys gbp? u do know that cotto is a top rank fighter right?and that clotteys also a top rAnk fighter right.and do u kno that pacmans a top rank fighter?. if ur gona suggest that its gona b scripted u shud also suggest pacmans fights are scripted u kno the promoter of top rank has been investigated by the fbi several times.
the difference between 14 days and 24 days is very simple. on 14 days u cant have a reasonable steroid cycle. but if u have 24 days that means u can have a 3 week steroid cycle tests free. and then have 3 days to wash the roids out ur system, now that u have the roids washed out u can have the test after the fight wit no problem.
lol.. what a joke. the person who wrote this garbage is obviously blinded to the facts. First by saying Pacman is a religious man. If he is so Holy/Religious, then why did he cheat on his wife. If he is so Holy, then why does he keep getting tattoos. Second, He wants to say that, ” if Floyd really wanted the fight, then why didn’ he back off the demands for a blood test when he say that Pacman wasn’t in favor of it”. How silly..The same reason that Pacman propose10 million dollas for every pound they were overweight, but Floyd quickly agreed to that. The same way that the ring size and glove size where determined by Manny’s camp but Floyd signed the dotted line. The same way that Manny asked for a 50/50 split and Floyd agreed to that as well. Its too funny and obvious that Manny didn’t want the fight. We are talking about 1 request from Floyd and the fight was called off, because he was being too demand. Come on people get a life and open your eyes.
reply to jason comments: hey jason with a small brain, tell me what’s the difference between your chicken floyd 14 days and “pacquiao blood test right after the fight”? i believe floydie knows that it is reasonable but just dont like accept it because he knows that he will loose and if pacquiao agree he already got his advantage in advance and if pacquiao didn’t agree there’s his reason which is not on the history of boxing. to sum it all floydie really dont want the fight and dont like to loose his precious 0 and the fight of mosley vs floydie is accidental and it’s going to be a scripted fight because mosley owns 5% of GBP, old and ready to retire and he will not allow not to have money for his retirement. floydie is not the champ, pacquiao is the champ and too generous to give floydie a chance to fight him but he blew it off and only floydienut hugger are the only people dont know about it or just simply playing dumb
its funny how these biased writers keep mentioning mosely’s age. u kno the same writers who sayed floyds 2 scared to fight mosely. yes the #3 or #4 pound 4 pound mosely. and the other funny thing is that he was forced into it. even tho he had a march 13th scheduled date, he cuda jus fought a b level fighter like the guy that wouldnt fight mosely at 142 pounds on a 65-35 split. yes that mosely
hey jason with a brain, tell me what’s the difference between your chicken floyd 14 days and “pacquiao blood test right after the fight”? i believe floydie knows that it is reasonable but just dont like accept it because he knows that he will loose and if pacquiao agree he already got his advantage in advance and if pacquiao didn’t agree there’s his reason which is not on the history of boxing. to sum it all floydie really dont want the fight and dont like to loose his precious 0 and the fight of mosley vs floydie is accidental and it’s going to be a scripted fight because mosley owns 5% of GBP, old and ready to retire and he will not allow not to have money for his retirement. floydie is not the champ, pacquiao is the champ and too generous to give floydie a chance to fight him but floydie blew it off and only floydiepu hugger are the only people dont know about it or just simply playing dumb
what happened to manny’s law suit?
he hsud hire the same lawyers that marion jones, barry bonds, roger clemens and others have suit when they filed defamation suits. u kno those lawyers have alot of experience defending frauds
random means random. it does not mean the day of the fight. it means they can test u on any givin day. now if ur a steroid user ur gon have a problem wit that cuz they come unexpectidly and test u. but if u have lets say a 24 day cut off u know theyr gona stop testin u after that day. so u get tested ur clean. now u have 24 days to have a roid cycle and then use watever they have that maskes or washes away the roids befo the fight and then u can test clean after the fight
whenever i wan read somethin a idiot would write id come here.
floyd wasnt forced into the fight. blood makes manny weak wat if he gets a cut inthe ring would he faint?if he was ok wit these tests nw y wasnt he earlier? random blood testing is not the same as set up dates. and about sparring. chek 24/7, manny goes and gives blood n then goes n trains n spars the same day.chek it guys its on tv. u guys jus dun make sense man. first he would never take blood testing, then he say 30 days( thats enuff time fo a hole roid cycle). then they catch him on tv takin blood 21 days before the hatton fight(and he sparred and trained). so he changes it to 24 days.
the funniest thing ive heard was when bob arum sayed that drawing blood is dangerouse because “the nurse could miss the vien” lol
floyd didnt ask marquez for a test, i dont know why though. jmm had to gain so much weight for that fight. i guess he must really trust marquez.
To all of you Floyd nuthuggers, Are you members of the Nevada State Athletic Commission now? So when is Floyd became the Commissioner? You can keep on speculating but at the end of the day the only real thing is when you put your finger in your ass and smell it thats how BAD your reasoning are. TALK is CHEAP do your BIT. Send all your demands re blood testing to the proper authorities.
I told you Pacquiao was hiding something. “just not the day of the fight”? Mayweather gave him a 14 days cut-off and he still refused to do a random blood test, this is disgraceful.
This is exactly what I have been telling you Pacfans that you are fighting a losing battle. You have nothing to stand on but lies. Manny Pacquiao’s team have been lying from day one, am glad they are being exposed.
This leaves very little doubt in my mind that Pacquiao is using PEDs. I just feel sorry for those great fighters like Cotto, De la hoya, Hatton, and the others who lost to this lie.
Boxer = he fights in the ring
Trainer = he trains his fighter
Promoter = He promotes the fight
Nevada State Athletic Commission = They sanctioned the fight including rules re drugs testing
Floyd and followers = They speculate and accused without officially submitting their demands to the proper authority such as the Nevada State Athletic Commission.
Talk is CHEAP do your BIT.
Coremaster: Answer my question 1st and I will answer yours
Ok! Let’s settle this once and for all! Let’s be fair and say that the man who is pound per pound best and who has won more boxing awards this year (PAC) gets to make the last concessinon call!
1st demand (PAC) — PBF goes one lb. over the limit it will cost
him $1 million. Mayweather accepts!
2nd demand (PBF) — Pac has to take random blood test 14 days
prior to the fight. Pac should Agree!
3nd demand (PAC) — PBF shall accept to fight in Manila,
Philippines in front of PBF haters!
To all Floyd’s fans… You guys keep insinuating that Pacquiao didn’t want to fight. Why not tell Floyd to drop the test and fight Pacquiao in the ring if you guys are so sure that he is the greatest and the best fighter. it’s as simple as that. A lot of boxing matches had happened already since this issue has been brought out…never heard any of those fights were subjected to Floyd’s stupid drug test. Can anyone tell me why?
I’m just wondering what’s gonna happen to Floyd’s arrogance and all his demands if he losses to Mosley? No more ace on his deck so what now?
“I have no problem taking blood, just not the day of the fight” Somebody tell this genius what a 14 day cut off means. Make up your mind Team Pac. These guys will never get their story straight. Yesterday Pac does interview and says Mosley will win. Today Roach does interview and says Mayweather will win. Everybody in the world KNOWS Floyd offered a 14 DAY CUT OFF. So why is this article today’s quote from Pac talkin bout “just not the day of the fight”???? He acts like we are gonna play dumb when his story don’t add up like he plays dumb when you ask him what supplements he takes.
@fan
Pacquiao was interviewed soon after the Morales fight by a Philipino TV station. The interview is on Youtube with English subtitles. He said at the time that blood had been drawn from him unexpectedly 2 days before the Morales fight, because the Nevada comission doctor had somehow lost the sample that they had taken from him some time earlier (think it was 2 months earlier). He said that when he was informed of this so close to the fight, he was very unhappy with what was a strange set of circumstances, but he had no choice but to give a sample of blood because otherwise the fight would have been cancelled, and he says this put him in a bad frame of mind for the Morales fight.
This is the link for that interview, and if the link is deleted or not allowed (mod please adjust accordingly), then search for the title “Pacquiao Weakened by blood test before the first Morales fight”.
Now, in the actual Morales fight, even the commentators could see that Pacquiao was agitated and unfocused, and they mentioned this several times. I honestly believe that the Mayweather family know about this incident, and they want to put Manny in the same frame of mind for a fight with Floyd Jnr, because they want the upper hand. That’s the way Floyd has always negotiated, and after all, this is the biggest fight and the biggest risk Floyd would have taken in his entire career. Floyd is a great defensive fighter, but he’s not been tested against this calibre of boxer with such devestating power/hand speed/combination punching, and if Ricky Hatton had Mayweather struggling to keep his feet in the early rounds of that fight, imagine what Pacquiao could do to him. So one can see why Mayweather would adopt this tactic.
But yeah, it’s plain as day to see that Pacquiao has his own valid set of reasons for not wanting to go through that same set of circumstances which he’s already been through.
If he’s willing to do testing except for the day of the fight but immediately after the fight, then what’s the problem?
Did anyone see Floyd at the All Star Game? You could tell that fool couldn’t wait to get off the topic of basketball and talk about Pacquiao. Not even mentioning his fight with Mosley, what’s up with that? Mosley should be the only fighter on his mind.
@fan
“… unlike urine tests, Blood tests can reveal that Manny Pacquiao has been using HGH.”
Oh yeah? Let’s consult with Dr. Catlin, chief doctor for the Olympic Analytical Lab shall we? Here’s what he has to say about testing for HGH testing…
“There is no definitive test for it. There are people working on a test, but so far there’s been nothing definitive. There are partial tests for it, but not a definitive test.”
He also went on to say:
“I’m not convinced you can’t test for it through urine.”
He also said:
“With Human Growth Hormone, the smaller guys might be less into that than the bigger fighters, the heavyweights.”
And in a revealing statement you might want to read twice before you start spouting off your intelligence…
“did you know that, in the last 30 years, nobody has been caught using HGH because there is not a good enough test as of yet.”
These are all DIRECT QUOTES I’ve cited for you to ponder, from one of Anti-Doping’s most trusted doctors.
So tell me, what is it you were hoping to find in the blood tests I wonder?
…ryan
I truly believe that the reason this BOXING match didnt happen is because PACMAN & his people did not want the fight. MONEY has ALWAYS said that BOXING is a BUSINESS decision 4 him. MONEY BOXES 4 PAPER. 4 him 2 walk away from the BIGGEST purse in the HISTORY of the sport, does not sound like MONEY. 4 those of U who KNOW about BOXING & know about MONEY U would all agree. Remember, he came back from retirement because he had a DEBT with UNCLE SAM. I believe that this fight “MIGHT” happen IF & ONLY when PACMAN & his people (TOP RANK) REALIZE that UR going 2 have 2 give in 2 MONEYS demands.
Pac is once again backtracking and lying, making his self look hella guilty. Why is he saying “just not the day of the fight” all aftrer the fact? Floyd offerred him a 14 day cut off. So why would he mention “the day of the fight”? HMMMMM. Maybe because he realizes refusing blood tests are signs of guilt. By misleading people about facts and lying he loses all credibility.What do Pacfans have to say to this? How can you spin Pac’s fake, everchanging excuses. Floyd has not changed his positions every other day like Manny???????????
Was Freddie Roach coaching or training James Toney when TONEY got caught using steriod . if that is true would Freddie Roach do the same to Pacquiao ??
Ok ok ok why all these Mayweather fans talkin sit about PAC this and that about steroids? Ok if I seem to recall Shane mosley was actually caught using steroids so umm WTF u kinda contradict urself in that one Mayweather fans and Mayweather himself
so y would u not wanna fight PAC cuz of that shh but go ahead and fight mosley that has been caught already ok that’s pretty stupid
Manny is the best Fighter of the Year. WIll watch the fight on March 13th in Arlington. Yeahhey
no $40m, no boxing of the year award, no boxing of the decade award, and no p4p king!
…..no title belt as well!
no nothing but dissing from the ruggedman!
he could have gotten some of the above by beating pac in the ring but he prefer to beat him the way of a clown.
It’s sad to read all these comments from dimwitted fans of Mayweather. You guys are totally LOSER!!! Go watch Live videos of Pacman and articles, and come back here and post your comments based on FACTS. You guys all sounded like my Uncle Roger Mayweather and Uncle Mayweather, Sr. Funny people need to be in the Circus business not boxing. PBF is obviously scared to be beaten by Pacman’s power. Too scared to lose his zero.
To correct this artcile. Mayweather wanted random blood testing since day one. No one said anything about taking the blood tests on the same day of the fight. To begin with. Blood tests require only a sample of blood. I don’t know why Manny Pacquiao keeps acting like they are trying to drain him. Manny Pacquiao refused the blood blood tests because they were going to be randomized and not scheduled. With random blood testing, Manny Pacquiao will not know when to cycle his body to test clean. That is why Manny Pacquiao was afraid of random blood testing because unlike urine tests, Blood tests can reveal that Manny Pacquiao has been using HGH.
Manny Pacquiao is also a sore loser. He was never gracious in defeat. First he invented some lame excuse that the reason why he lost to Erik Morales is because his gloves were magical, and softened his punches. Now, Manny Pacquiao is telling us that he lost the fight because of the blood tests. Again, Blood tests require only a sample of blood. I don’t know why Manny Pacquiao keeps acting like they are trying to drain him.
While Manny Pacquiao did win the two rematches agasint Erik Morales. Manny Pacquiao and his supporters always fail to mention that Erik Morales was coming off of a loss to Zahir Raheem. Rather than fighting the wiiner of Morales vs Raheem like a true champion would do. He chose to fight a washed up Erik Morales who just lost to Zahir Raheem. Erik Morales was a damaged fighter by Manny Pacquiao fought those two rematches against him.
None of this controversy would have existed had Manny Pacquiao simply taken the blood tests. Normally that is what people do when they have nothing to hide.
Mayweather has his comfort zone, unfortunately it is not Pacquiao’s comfort zone. who is to blame? both of them. so to the Pachaters, how about we give Manny a break, shall we.
@truthxposer
I’m not even going to qualify your post with a response.
…ryan
To: lex_fugitive
“So, Pacquaio only has a problem giving blood within a couple days of a fight. That is totally irrelevant and doesn’t explain why he won’t agree to a 14 day cut-off. OK, whats next Manny is afraid of heights so he won’t fight Mayweather? That is equally relevant. Manny never claims he would be weak 14 DAYS AFTER giving blood. But hey, lets act like Floyd only agreed if Manny took blood tests up to the day of the fight. We’ve seen the truth makes Manny look like he’s scared and/or juicing, so let’s make stuff up now.”
Pacquiao said that he is amenable to random blood test but not on day of the fight. Freddie Roach and Bob Arum are the ones against it, and they both have valid reasons. Mayweather said that he can beat Pacman easy roid or no roid, then why did he walk away from the fight? Don’t tell me that Mayweather chosed the Mosley fight. Sorry but he was just forced by the circumstance ‘coz should he chosed a fight with a mediocre lightweight or jr. welter, the world will laugh at him.
@truthxposer
Scared of asians are we?
Steroids are not necessary for anyone..your body produces a chemical adrenaline which causes physical changes including strength to your body…to let this happen, you must be placed in an extremely stressful situation….such as sports…so it’s natural steroids…some people need an extra boost artificially
Oh man! Why is it sooo hard for u Pac-fans to just give it up and realize that ur boy is a cheat and that’s that! 14 days, 24 days it shouldn’t even matter come on now let’s think about how much blood he looses in the ring just gushing out of one or both his eyes! All it takes is a few drops of blood for test results. Did you not know that?
Floyd wouldn’t turn down 25 million just that easy. Floyd is not stupid and I’m not convinced that Pac is Mr. innocent and never will be. I can see it in his attitude.
@truthxposer
Tell JM to get prepare himself for a 14lbs fight with the boss. blood testing will never be a problem before the start of the training, followed by 24 day before the fight, and lastly right after the fight.
And oh he’ll get a bonus… Boss says he’s amenable to an unlimited urine testing as sanctioned by the Nevada.
RYAN DUNN GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. AFTER MAYWEATHER, TEAM PAC WENT TO MARQUEZ FOR A 3RD FIGHT WHICH HE ALSO REQUETED A BLOOD TEST, SO THEY CAME RUNNING DOWN TO PICK A B CLASS FIGHTER NAME CLOTTEY WHICH NOBODY HEARD OFF. PAC NEEDS TO CLEAR HIS NAME AND TAKE THE 25 MILL DRUG TEST. THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS. PAC FANS ARE PATHETIC,, THE ASIANZ USUALLY LIKE OH HE GET ZITZ ON HIS BUTT FROM TAKING URINE TEST, OH HE GETS WEAK, OH HE SUPERSTITIOUS, OH HE FIGHTING ELECTION HE DONT NEED THE MONEY. JUST STOPPPPPPP IT WITH THE LIES. STOP IT..
@truthxposer
JMM simply said that, IF A REMATCH WERE TO HAPPEN, that he would ask for blood testing. He’s also happens to be a GBP fighter. Get a clue. Haven’t you ever heard of PR/Marketing?
…ryan
EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES. TAKE HTE TEST MANNY. GET OFF THE STEROIDS. STOP CHEATING! EVEN MARQUEZ ASKED U FOR A BLOOD TEST FOR STEROIDS AND U PASSED ON HIM TO PICK B-RATED FIGHTER LIKE CLOTTEY. SHAME ON U AND ROACH!
how many times did floyd mayweather win the ring magazine fighter of the year . and please print the year in which floyd mayweahter win ring magazine fighter og the year ?
@lex
I have an idea. Manny should fight Camacho Sr. if he wins. Aren’t I clever?
Mayweather is the best, he would never demand anything in the name of malice. He would never put forth a demand he knew his opponent would refuse and then pretend to be a converted angel of the sport, here to Johnny Appleseed his way to the Hall of Fame and clean up the sport on his way to infamy.
No, he’s the people’s champion, the pound-for-p….
Oh wait. Wrong guy. My bad.
As you were….
…ryan
please tell me why did Pacquiao DUCK Shane Mosley , why didn’t that fight happen ??
Lex,
Why dont you just give up..
Roach explained it perfectly. The main reason they wanted the cut off date 24 days not 14, because days 14 – 12 before the fight are vital sparring days for Manny before he tones down training.
I guess you wouldnt have a fking clue you ignorrant fk.
It was Floyd who came out of retirement to reclaim the P4P Title from Manny…Manny does not need Floyd….Floyd needs Manny because his money is running out…he got bills to pay with uncle sam……………
So, Pacquaio only has a problem giving blood within a couple days of a fight. That is totally irrelevant and doesn’t explain why he won’t agree to a 14 day cut-off. OK, whats next Manny is afraid of heights so he won’t fight Mayweather? That is equally relevant. Manny never claims he would be weak 14 DAYS AFTER giving blood. But hey, lets act like Floyd only agreed if Manny took blood tests up to the day of the fight. We’ve seen the truth makes Manny look like he’s scared and/or juicing, so let’s make stuff up now.
I don’t think the fight will ever happen with Floyd’s recent demand that Manny take the test up to the day of the fight. Floyd really thinks that he’s the man to beat in boxing, what a moron.