Mayweather warns of sterner tests for Pacquiao in the future

To Commonsense,

I absolutely buy what you said that Floyd’s biggest fear is not Manny is on steroids but Manny is clean and he is that “extraordinary”, the description he made about Manny’s rise. It is interesting, that Floyd is who also getting up in age, maybe realizing his skills will start to deteriorate. Its natural, unless Floyd decides to take his training to another level where he can prolong his career. But I don’t think it will happen because of the amount distractions he is usually involved in. One day when both fighters have been retired for years, Manny will reflect on his legacy and just smile…thats it. While Floyd will most likely be broke and when asked about his legacy, I think he may finally realize that he screwed up his legacy because he will be constantly be reminded how he ducked and dodge the best fighter of his time. Floyd will have no one but himself to blame.

Iceman, you wrote that I “went from saying there was no difference to saying that there was a difference” which u say “totally contradicts” my previous statment. Well,not exactly. IF i were to say that there was no difference and then said that there was “all the difference in the world” then I would agree with you that I “totally contradicted” myself. But I “went from”, to use your language, saying there was NO difference to saying there was SOME difference. That is not a “total contradiction” that is a CLARIFICATION of my previous statement. I was explaining that I did not mean my “NO difference” statement to be taken literally. I CLARIFIED it by saying there was of course SOME differnce but I didn’t think it was a HUGE difference Now putting plaster in your hand wraps and taking the padding out of your gloves, THAT, for example, would make a HUGE difference. That kind of cheating can get someone literally killed or ruined for life. Margarito had plaster on his hand wraps and you saw Cotto’s face by the end of the fight. I can only imagine if Margarito had taken the padding out of his gloves too.

Good stuff Bobby!

I was going to respond to Iceman and say that he has misunderstood your statement. He might have been speed reading or maybe it might have hit a chord since it always going to be taboo when stuff like that is mentioned.

Again Bobby, you are right about Floyd Jr’s position. Just to prove that’s he’s right, he will continue to fan the flames like if Manny Pacquiao’s life has no meaning. A form of reverse what ever you want to call it. He gives him no value so only to feed and shine the light to himself. he does not care if it hurts anybody as long as it serves him.

I for myslef am glad that he’s only a boxer. Because if he was a leader of country, you can forget about it, LOL!

Iceman, no hard feelings here either. If you go back and reread what I said, I wrote that “it makes no difference” and then later clarified that more by saying, that the difference was “minimal”. You know, after I wrote that comment I thought to myself that people are going to hammer me for those comments and I was going to write a follow up to explain not to take that literally. Of course roids matter. I just don’t think it matters to the point wheer Floyd shoudl be afraid for his health in the ring. I keep going back to my DLH and Vargas example. I think that if Floyd was as good as he claims then it would be a mismatch either way and roids would’t make a difference. Now if Pac had no padding in his gloves and plaster in his handwraps, yeah, then Floyd SHOULD be afraid. He should be VERY afraid because he could get KILLED under those conditions.

I think the Hatton example is a good one though. Floyd is only afraid to fight Pac if he were on roids because theat could spell the difference between winning or losing. But if he were facing either of the Hatton brothers roids would probably make them better but still they would have no chance of winning. too much of a mismatch. After Corrales, Floyd has this habit of picking easy fights where he can look good. He knows he is in for a real fight with Pac and he is afraid of what might happen. I don’t know how he could live with himself if Pac knocked him out, beat him up and embarrassed him and exposed him in front of 3 million viewers. Now there is a post fight interview I would pay to see.

commonsense,

im trying to understand what you are saying and i think i’ve kinda worked it out.

if matthew hatton took roids to get to floyds level then floyd shouldnt turn down 25 mill etc…

i just dont think those kinda rationales are plausible, fullstop.

however you go from saying “there is no difference” to “there is a difference” etc… which totally contradicts your previous comments.

commonsense, look below at some of the comments that come up from people like this bobby bagoong etc… at some points in his blogs he sounds all there then he compares mannys situation to the “blacks” in to kill a mockingbird, (im picking mannys the mockingbird,lol).

its all BS mate and i just get sick of the s**t thats why i dont blog as much anymore.

theres not as much intelligent conversation anymore just lies and half truths etc… if i dont no something im not gonna pretend i do, or if im wrong and someone sets me straight then i apoligise etc…

no hard feelings man.

peace

To Amonymous,

It is a vendetta, a vendetta stemming from Manny’s accomplishments, that is what I am alluding too, it is exactly what you said. Its so pathetic. I remember an interview where the interviewer said Manny’s resume in boxing is much more impressive than Floyds, Floyd wil bring up that Manny got knocked out 2 times and himself being undefeated. But the interviewer would counter, Manny was only a teen when he lost. It doesn’t matter now, he pointed out great fighters have been knocked out. Having a zero doesn’t make him any more special because Floyd hadn’t put himself into great wars. We all know great boxing wars are the foundation of great boxing lore where it will be talked about for years. It also is the foundation of a great legacy. Floyd doesn’t see it this way. He think money is his lecgacy. Floyd doesn’t give back to boxing fans…a lot lip service. If Floyd was for boxing, he wouldn’t let paranoia and fear dictate the fight with Manny. It is not about blood testing but his fear and paranoia. Greed is also the source of his drive for boxing. “you know I only do it for the money, if it ain’t for money…I’m aint down with it.”-Floyd Mayweather Jr

Which goes to a saying….
“The value of a man should be seen in what he gives and not in what he is able to receive.”- Albert Einstein

@commonsense, wow such a long comment. It all boils down though to advocating for a stringent drug tests in cleansing the sport. I agree. No problem. But to be straight-forward, the best way to do this, either you doubt your opponent or it’s your own personal advocacy, is to present your sentiments to the governing body that oversee the sport. That’s how the system works. It’s that simple – It’s the rule of law.

@iceman, but I still do believe, that while it is a little pathetic for ANY human being to put any of this illegal crap into his body, if Matthew Hatton put a clause in his contract that he will fight Floyd but he wanted to be allowed to use steroids, hgh or peds, and if Floyd were offered $25M to fight him under those unusual conditions, that there is no way Floyd does not take that fight. Well right now he has backed himself into a corner with this “crusade” he claims to e on to clean up boxing, so on those moral grounds he might have to refuse to fight under those conditions lest he be exposed as a phony, but from a purely logical viewpoint, no way he does not WANT to take that fight. The difference is that Matthew Hatton or even JMM would have no chance against Mayweather roids or no roids. And YOU are the one who is delusional if you think otherwise. In Pac’s case it WOULD make a difference because they are very close in ability anyway and if Pac were only that good because he is cheating, then the roids he is taking would be the difference between winning and losing in the Mayweather fight, whereas with Hatton or JMM, I don’t think it would even come close to changing the fight’s outcome.

I don’t personally think Pac has anything illegal in his system at all and I am not going to get into that whole debate on why or why not. I would be pretty surprised if he were but I surely would not be a supporter. He would be pathetic in that case. But whether he is taking them or not, he is still the same fighter, same amazing endurance, same non stop attack. The only thing that changes is the WHY he is so good. Either he is good because of the drugs, which would make everything about him a FAKE or he is good because he is truly a once in a lifetime phenom. But whether he is a pathetic fake who deserves not one ounce of credit, whose entire career is a joke, who should not be allowed a boxing license anymore or he is real, he is the same fighter. If Mayweather is afraid to fight him if he is juicing, it is apparent that he is afraid to fight him if he is not juicing. Because the fighter he faces in the ring that night will be the same fighter that his father was so afraid for his son to fight. The Mayweathers are hoping that they are right, that he was juicing and that by forcing him to clean the peds out of his system, the fighter lil Floyd will face in the ring will be a shell of himself since he won’t have that huge advantage he had in all his previous fights when he was all juiced up. But WHAT IF he is not juicing and is totally clean and he is just that good because of hard work, dedication and incredible talent and Freddie Roach and the rest of his team, then in that case, Mayweather would be facing the same Pac that Sr. already admitted he was afraid for his son to fight. The only difference being that Sr. was wrong about Pac being dirty and that he really was just that good. So it makes sense in that case that Mayweather woudl be desperate to find an excuse not to fight this naturally gifted incredible superhuman fighter. Knowing Mayweather’s incredible ego, he could never accept being beat up or embarrassed by Pac in front of the whole world. It would kill him. He would want Pac to take a DNA test to prove he is not an alien. Since Floyd KNOWS that Pac is most likely clean and that he will be facing that same whirlwind in the ring if they ever fought, he will do anything and everything he can to avoid this fight like the plague. They will NEVER fight. Unfortunately, it is Floyd’s only option.

You know, Floyd’s increased demands has made clear that he has a vendetta against Manny and he really has another motive. If he say he is driven only to clean up boxing, then why change the original demand? Now he is in a crusade to not only discredit Manny but to make Manny think Floyd runs the show. His ego is way out of control. If the Floyd fans continue to support this ego maniac, I’m even more surprised how they buy into this hypocrite. All credit to Manny, he doesn’t say a thing. He goes on his own way and continues to train for Clottey. While Floyd who should be focusing on promoting his fight with Mosley, is still out to damage Manny’s image. And its failing miserably.

Bobby, what would be even better if Mosley knocks him out and in the post fight interview Floyd says that he lost because he had to give blood in the dressing room and the nurse taking his blood missed the vein a few times and his arm was sore.

Iceman, one more thing because I happen to agree with most of your comments and we should not be arguing with each other. ok ok, maybe I could have rephrased a few of those previous comments to be more clear. But here is my point and I am going to actually say something in favor of Mayweather here just to show you I really am trying to see both sides. If two fighters were facing each other of equal weight, no matter how they go to that weight, and one fighter was juicing and one fighter was clean, the fighter with the juice would have an advantage over the fighter who wasn’t. When I wrote “what difference does it make?”, I didn’t mean that literally. Of course it makes a difference. I just don’t think it makes THAT much of a difference. (DLH Vargas). If two fighters are evenly matched, peds could make the difference between victory and defeat. If I were Mayweather, THAT is something he has every right to be concerned about. Whether he ducked or not, he worked long and hard for that “0″ and he should not lose it to a cheater. But if that is the case, then at least be a man and say that you are concerned about losing to Pac because you are both evenly matched and if he is juicing, that might give him enough an edge to win and that would be very unfair. ok, fair enough. I could support Mayweather on that position. But no, that is not what he is saying. He is going on and on about what a mismatch it will be and how it will be such an easy payday for him. Well in THAT case, if he is truly THAT much better as he claims, then so what if Pac is taking roids. It shouldn’t make a difference. And yes,Iceman, I am not forgetting that if Pac IS taking roids, he still should not be allowed in the ring with anyone regardless of how it affects his chances of winning or losing. There is no room in boxing for cheaters. But Mayweather should either stop saying the fight will be such a mismatch while at the same time he walks away from an easy $25M because he is concerned about the roids bcause it makes no common sense. (DLH / Vargas) Besides if Pac were on somethign it would show in the after the fight drug test and he would be publically disgraced for the rest of his life and all the money in the world could not buy him redemption.

@Jesus Jones, finally an appropriate response to that idiot Graham.

One more comment before I turn in. You know the ONLY problem with this entire drug testing issue is the blood testing part of it. No one has any problem with urine, saliva or hair follicle testing. Mayweather can ask Pac to take all those tests he wants random, unlimited, no cut off date. No problem. The difference with blood testing is it is invasive. Now, since this is SOOOO important, if there is a urine test or saliva or hair follicle that does what a blood test does and even more accurately, THAT WOULD MAKE THIS ENTIRE BLOOD TESTING ISSUE OBSOLETE. Mayweather only wants Pac to do the blood testing random and unlimited because he knows how much he doesn’t like it and it means nothing to him. I am no expert but I understand that there ARE such other non invasive tests that do what blood testing does and even better. If that is true,Mayweather will have to find a new excuse not to face Pac in the ring.

Iceman, maybe I wasn’t exactly clear in my comments. And by the way, I like Pac and I am a fan but not a blind fan. If Pac were on roids I would be the first one to say he should not show his face in public again and he should even give back all the money he made. If Pac were on roids HE WOULD BE A FRAUD!! NO QUESTIONS THERE. As to my education I have a doctorate degree, but that is really irrelevant. I am just putting in my two cents here. Nothing more. So to rephrase, I AGREE WITH YOU. If Pac were on roids HE WOULD BE A CHEATER. Yes roids give you an edge. Yes if two fighters weighed the same, the one on roids would have an advantage (although actually that is subject to debate because some feel that the roids, while making you bigger and stronger, would make you slower too). The point I was trying to make is that it does not turn you into superman. It does not make you invincible. If so Vargas wouldn’t have been knocked out by DLH. And I disagree that it makes you scary dangerous. Maybe I am wrong here and if you think so, feel free to tell me why, but my understanding is that it gives you an edge, probably not as much of an “edge” that those two extra pounds gave Mayweather when he fought Marquez. I think that if Mayweather truly feels he is THAT much better than Pac that it would be such a mismatch, then roids shouldn’t be a reason to walkaway from $25M. That being said I fully agree that roids have no place in any sport, especially boxing and that if Pac were actually taking them, he should be banned from the sport and he should return all the money he made.

When I posed the hypothetical of Pac fighitng Vitali Klitchko I did not mean to say that I condoned the use of illegal peds in any case. (But illegality aside, wouldn’t you love to see Pac fighting Klitchko if he coudl get to be 250 lbs of muscle? ) ok ok, yeah yeah I know, the super steroids would make it wrong and all that but I am just fanasizing here).

IF PAC WERE TAKING STEROIDS IT WOULD BE INEXCUSABLE. I am just saying that it shouldn’t make Mayweather so afraid of him that he walks away from $25M. His skin is not green and he is not the incredible hulk. And yes, from a moral standpoint, he should not be allowed to fight if he is on them and he should be stoned and have beer cans thrown at him everytime he was spotted in public. I just think that if May were THAT much better than Pac, that it would not make a difference. Now if Pac had plaster in his handwraps and removed the padding from his gloves, entirely different story. In THAT case, I would not fight Pac if I were Mayweather. I woudl not even fight Pac if I were Klitchko in that case. B I G difference. So are we on the same page now?

If Floyd really wants more blood testing he may want to start with those skanky a$$ strippers he’s always got crawling all over him.

423 posts, still no fight

and my check from bob arum bounced

commonsense,

just to finish. if you truely believe what you are saying then it tells me one or two of two things.

1 you are so far into pacquiao that you cant rationalise.

2 you arent educated

take your pick

@BigLo, I am repeating what I said because maybe someone can explain to me what I am missing. WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS ROIDS ISSUE ANYWAY. SO WHAT IF PAC IS TAKING ROIDS. If he is guilty, and full to the brim on steroids, it only means that he is a natural bantamweight who has gained 20 pounds of muscle because of the roids. That would only be an unfair advantage IF HE WERE FACING ANOTHER BANTAMWEIGHT who was not taking roids. Pac would be at 147 and his opponent would be at 126. Very unfair obviously and very dangerous for his 126 pount bantamweight opponent. But if he is facing someone his own size, or even bigger, such as Mayweather, what is the big deal? Do you think that Vitali Klitchko would be afraid of facing Pac if Pac came out and said he would fight him but he wanted to be allowed to take as much steroids as he pleased? Stupid question, right? My point is that whether he is as big and strong as a natural welterweight because of roids or he is that big and strong because of his nutrituionalist and trainer and hard work and dedication with nothing illegal, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE. He is what he is, and whether he is that way legally or illegally it REALLY MAKES NOT DIFEERENCE, just as long as he is facing someone his own size or bigger, it negates any advantage or, at least minimizes it, from steroids or hgh. WHAT THE f IS FLOYD SO AFRAID OF??? Do you think if JMM wanted to be allowed to take roids in a rematch as a handicap to make it interesting since the first fight was so one sided, and if Mayweather was offered $25M for that fight, do ya think he would walk away from that $25M? Wake up people.

@Preston, “Dude”, let me get this straight. You are actually equating PLASTER IN YOUR HANDWRAPS TO PEDS????? Are you kidding me? Do you even think about what you are writing before you write it to see how it sounds. Don’t you think that PLASTER IN YOUR HANDWRAPS is just a tad bit DIFFERENT than taking Peds???? I stand behind what I wrote. SO WHAT IF PAC WAS TAKING PEDS OR HGH OR STEROIDS. Getting hit by someone with plaster in their gloves can KILL YOU. Getting hit by someone on steroids is really not that big of a deal. Just ask ODLH he KNOCKED OUT Vargas when Vargas was on steroids. Now if Vargas has fought DLH with no steroids, but instead had PLASTER IN HIS GLOVES, do ya think the result would have been just a tad bit different? Look at it this way. Steroids are supposed to make you bigger and stronger,right? But “bigger and stronger” is relative. Bigger and stronger than WHAT?? If, accoding to mayweather, Pac is only that big and strong because he is all pumped up by roids, and if he cleaned all the dope out of his system he would shrink back to being a 126 pounder, would that be your version of a more fair fight? For Pac to come into this welterweight fight weighing 126? Let’s give you the benefit of the doubt and say Pac is all doped up on roids, ok? Well if he is naturally 126 and because of the roids he gained 21 pounds of muscle, this would be a huge advantage and very dangerous for his opponent to face in the ring, IF HIS OPPONENT WERE ANOTHER 126 POUNDER! But he is facing bigger and stronger guys, right? So if there were some super steroid that allowed you to double your weight and gain a foot in height and Pac took these super steroids and became 6’6″ tall and weighed 250 lbs, I don’t see any problem with that and I don’t see any danger to his opponents, AS LONG AS HIS OPPONENT WAS VITALI KLITCHKO. Do you see my point…..dude? If all Mayweather is doing is fighting a junior bantamweight who is only a welterweight because he is all blown up on roids SO WHAT????? He is facing someone who is naturally that big so what is Floyd so afraid of that he is walkingaway from $25M? It is V E R Y different than facing someone who has plaster in his handwraps. Get it now?

@ Preston

It was a damn if you or damn if you don’t situation.

I can say Shaq Oneil has a bit of chip on his shoulders like Floyd Jr.. He makes mistakes like everyone else does. When you’re a high profile star or athletes, man believe me, Pu$$y lands on your shoulders all day long, LOL!!!!

Does this stop him every year from doing what he loves best every Christmas. Play Santa going around town with a few trucks loaded of toys giving it to kids who might not able to afford the toys he’s giving.

So now are we to wonder that Shaq dominated cause now maybe he took some steroids. lol!

Man, one issue at a time one answer at a time.

Oh as far as pu$$y falling on your shoulders being a celebrity. Just imagine Pacquiao as a mega star in the Philipines. Aint falling on his shoulder. He pinned down by it, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

jesusjones- lol…ok, you are right about the video being a filapino version of EXTRA…..ok so you made me laugh a little bit on that one, but say what you will, the video speaks for itself……..Pacs wife didnt want much to do with him at that mass, and she was visibly upset with him, over whatever was going on between the two of them…….it just shows you that the guy has his own issues just like everybody else…and he has his shortcommings………doesnt mean or make him a ped user….lol…..just shows his frailties

@ Preston

So why single out Pacquiao? And when it came off wrong, Floyd is now looking to reform all of sports to save face and make it look like it’s not about Pacquiao.

So Preston, just now? not when Mosley admitted back then. Why not backj then? Is it becuase now he faces manny.

Come dude, be reasonable so we can continue.

lolol…..jesusjones….uhmmmm Floyd’s statements concerning his issue over Pac’s POSSIBLE Ped usage hasnt been conclusively determined one way or another……again, has Pac ever tested positive for Peds or anything illegal……NO. Have there been others in the sport that have never tested positive, but were infact users of peds……YES. Does that make Pac guilty……NO. Does that give Floyd a credible reason to ask for the test…..YES. And why was JMM prepared to ask Pac for the same blood test had he been offered a third fight with Pac?????????????

man, 400 plus comments and its still got no finish line!

these 2 guys just need to get it on.

all the fighting is being done in the media and in chat rooms!

the problem with alot of the “proof” and “facts” etc… that comes from sites like this from bloggers is.. well.. alot of the time BS!

i’ve that countless conversations with others that state this and then that and you believe them only to find what what they said was either just straight up lies, or they are half truths…to the point where i seldom use these sites anymore. they have become trash talking polls more than educational like they used to be.

the truth is there are arguements both ways and depending on the fighter you support that is the way MOST people lean towards.

i support pacquiao, BUT he could very well be on roids. however as i’ve stated before im not damning him just because he didnt take a random blood test becasue floyd and his FELON family say hes a drug user! thats all.

if floyd does get past mosley and pac wins also and pacquiao still doesnt take the fight based on random blood testing then id have to agree with most of the floyd admirers.

but as it is now with the negoitation being done so quickly with such little time to organise promote etc.. (seriously, a mega fight in march was NEVER going to happen, i mean they had like 4 months total to prepare) are we really surprized something didnt stick?

alot of the below bloggs are just he said she she…..this roids issue is unreal! we are all gonna be pharmisits by the end of this! lol.

some of the things that have come from the pac camp is BS but then same with the may camp. like floyd wants to clean up boxing (hahaha) thats cool, but why if all the evidence that has been presented then did floyd say 14 days was sufficient??? when alot of these peds can be gone in 3 to 4 odd days!????

it just doesnt make sense. if your gonna stipulate something THEN DO IT!

14 days was nor here nor there..

jesusjones- dude these scenarios can go both ways…..your wife may or may not be cheating on you, despite what she says. You mean to tell me that people dont lie??? Even Pacs wife finds it hard to believe that he was not cheating on her………inspite of what he said………………..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gTFDKHvemI

@ Preston

Dude, you are asking me to go around the block with you. And yes I have read you post. Without insulting, somewhere along the way, you actually turned just a bit to be on a level.

Your mom has been cheating on your dad. You neighbor said so.

How easily those words were uttered?

jesusjones- dude spare me the drama…………just becasue i disagree with you on this issue means what????? I would put an innocent person in jail???? When did I ever accuse Pac of anthing???? I have several posts that you can look thru to prove your point. I just said that I along with several others do not agree with Pac on this issue. And since you want to talk about the judicial system, when anyone is accused of anything such as…..lets say rape or murder, how do they prove their innocence???? Instead of going thru a long dialogue on what a person has to do to prove their innocence……..I will let you think about that for a second.

There was a saying my Dad always made a point with. ” Maraming na mamatay sa ‘AKALA KO’ “. I not very good at translating but the saying in english would be ” lots of people die in the thinking of “what if”… Or miss opportunities or make big mistakes. I think that was the point.

I guess what I’m trying to say Preston is that, you cannot bet all your money on “What if”. Yes it’s a total gamble but that’s exactly what it is, a gamble. Your thinking is not a sure bet.

Commonsense- So what if Pac was on steroids???? You got to be freakin kidding me. Dude, obviously it would be a very big deal, as was the loaded gloves being worn by Margarito. Why didnt Shane just let Magarito fight him with the plaster in his gloves……after all Shane is a much better boxer than Margarito…….quicker, better footwork, better defense, and better all around skills……..surley he could have outboxed Margarito based on that alone right???? we know that Shane did the right thing with his trainer examining and having the illegal substance removed from Margarito gloves, but would you be willing to say that Shane should have allowed Margarito to fight with the substance.? It makes no sense to justify Pac’s position by saying “so what”. Pac had the perfect opportunity, the biggest stage, and the perfect opponent to fight on the PEDS rumors……none other than Floyd “money” Mayweather!! What better way would it had been for Pac to take the test, and pass them with flying colors, which would have made Floyd look silly, and then proceed to beat the living hell out of Mayweather for even questioning his good name. That is what you call sweet revenge. But to run in the oppostite direction because your feelings were hurt, is a little wimpy if you ask me. I dont care about Pacs “reasons” which were all over the map…..all I know is that when the ball was put in his court, he dropped it. Mayweather only made the request, and Pac magnified the situation, by not only asking for ristrictions, but giving every excuse undere the sun………and then Freddie Roach says the most ridiculous thing that I have ever heard given the situation about people getting soo weak from giving blood that they have to be given cookies….. Dude, this stuff is freakin comical, but you guys want to act like everything that comes out of Pacs camp makes perfect, or commen sense????

@ Bobby Bagoong on Teledaddy

I stated that as well the other day on how slick ODLH and Golden Boy Promotions and their loyalty to Mosley. I just simply said that the winner in all this is Golden Boy Promotions. There’s a secret hatred amongst them on Mayweather. As cautious as Floyd can be he’s not clever enough to play the games ODLH and GBP plays. There’s no love lost between the two. it’s all about money. But as much as Floyd thinks he’s dictating things, he’s become a tool in my opinion in the OLDH, GBP game. Unfortunately, he will suffer from this and GBP knows it and will push in a different direction because they have multiple ACES up their sleeves and Floyd Jr has already used his. He definately has to win this fight with Mosley in order to continue.

To TelleDaddy,

I too believe there is something underhanded with Berto bowing out of the fight with Mosley. I am willing to say, Berto was asked by Golden Boy to get out of this fight and let Mosley fight Floyd instead. They used the Haiti situation and said Berto is bowing out of the fight because he lost family members at Haiti. I thought something was fishy when Mosley and his manager was complaining why Floyd hasn’t signed yet. Which leads me to believe, there was something under the table that happened between the Mayweather, Golden Boy, Berto and Mosley. I believe this was all a set up when the fight with Manny failed to happened. Golden Boy and the Mayweathers knew they had to ditch the supposed fight with Matthew Hatton or Paul Malignaggi. I could see Golden Boy and the Mayweathers do some underhand $hit. Someone should do some investigating to this matter.

Floyd just basically cemented his legacy as a coward, chicken, trash talker….NOT WORTH WATCHING ON PPV….maybe in some sleazy bar or something….

If hes still willing to fight Pacman he should do it in Pacman terms and conditions….he should be thanking Pacman if he lets him do a split of 75/25 in favor of Pacmans! Better than nothing, right ? At least he doesn’t have to do another fight and just retire after the fight with Pacman.

Despite all these Im still not gonna buy PPV just to watch Floyd fight….boring, villian, conman, ploy-man, mouth, arrogant, whatever…hes not worth watching. Maybe on youtube
but still if they dont show it on YouTube so what ?

@ Teledaddy

I would hope that the majority of the boxing sees what you see. I think i can safely safe for the most of us at least. As great as to what you have stated, Floyd Jr fans and Pacquaio haters are entrenched. Bought and sold, commonsense in non existence.

Lets see….whos the dumb, dumber and dumbest here….oh i see its Floyd fans again…they keep ASSuming same old sh**t just b’cuz Floyd Sr and Jr says so…that just because Manny Pacquaio didnt agree to random blood test hes hiding something…..

Name other pro boxers who demanded “RANDOM” blood testing, not just blood testing but “RANDOM” to anyone in the History of boxing…name just one before Pacman and I wont say Floyd is a coward, chicken, con-man…..you know what they say
about “assuming”

It´s getting clearer now that Mayweather doesn´t really want to fight Pacquiao. He added more and more excuses. He gave Pacquiao a chance, and who is he to give Pacquiao a chance? Mayweather is cleaning the sport, good for him. Now he can start with himself by quiting the use of PED-Xylocaine. Can he promote his own fight for once, he constantly talks about Pacquiao. He reminds me of JMM, so obsessed chasing Pacquiao. Money is not that important to Pacquiao nowadays, remember he earned almost $40 million alone last year. He is giving most of his earnings anyway. He has a lot of businesses in the Philippines as well as in states and owned real properties also in both places. According to his wife, they already saved money more than enough to all their children and now his dream is a sit in the congress. So Mayweather can forget that demand, he better be planning 2-3 more fights to earn that 25 million he supposed to have with Pacquiao.

Hey Graham!

Your mom has been cheating on your dad for years. Your dad might not even be your dad. YOU AND YOUR DAD ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A BLOOD TEST. YOU’RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO CONVINCE HIM.

Sorry everyone. Resulting to Middle school tactics. It’s the only way to reach these cats.

Floyd should wait until he retires before he becomes the regulator of boxing he is a freaking embarassment as a prizefighter a literal black eye.

You know? This saga is becoming too long. Why can’t they just fight. No drugs testing, no penalties, no nothing, even no gloves. Just fight and not make it complicated. Just good old traditional fight.

Mayweather, does he deserve to have fans and does fans deserve him? To each his own. Some poeple like the underdog and hate the those that are too popular. But in this case… Mayweather is extremely crazy to be believable. Does he have any marketing endorsements lately? … please not KFC.

@ graham

“Good on you Mayweather. That’s as it should be, no wiggle room this time.”

LMAO!!!!!!

Hey, graham! When that news conference that Floyd calls out for and no one shows up. And manny is sitting at a beach somewhere, LOL!!!!! That’s going to be a lot of WIGGLE ROOM.

OH and Floyd fans. Floyd don’t fight for nobody, Floyd fights for himself. First it’s legacy don’t pay bills, now critics don’t pay bills either.

You don’t have to be a college grad to understand this cat. Heck, you don’t even have to have a high School diploma.

Oh wait a sec, you Floyd fans are still in Jr High School aren’t you?

Okay, now I understand. I apologize, it’s misunderstanding in my part.

Floyd will be exposed from his fraud. He will get schooled by Pac. Imagine, he still needs a tune up for a tiny JMM, and still has to cheat him. JMM the ultimate nut will say yes to anything Floyd wants. With the Mosley fight, he will be exposed….. unless GBP is cooking up something again. Mosley was the type who would also say yes to anything for the money.

Floyd is doing ALL the talking. And the thing is, most everyone is not listening.

To Mayweather it is all about the money… and some cheating too.

you dont see paciaou anywhere cause his people do all his talking for him !! floyd mayweather does most of his own talking and some cant handle that .. you dont see floyds people all over the internet building him up do you ?? floyd mayweather should just move on and forget pac man… pac dont want to fight him .. paciaou would get schooled anyway , so he better stick to fighting 2nd tier fighters !!

To JesusJones,

Very well written. I think many people and including the Floyd fans, just don’t understand the cultural differences. Why Manny does what he does. Manny is being gracious and giving is an understatement. Money was never a priority to him just security for his family and being able to make a lot of money to help the people of his country. God gave him a gift and Manny uses it to help people, not just to line his pocket or bigger fame, but to help the poor in his country. Manny knows what being poor is all about. He lived in one of the poorest cities in the Philippines. To say it was a humbling beginning is an understatement too. He rose from the most adversarial beginnings to becoming one of the most admired sports hero in our time. I am proud that Manny is being recognized for his gift in boxing but most proud of all on how he is so unselfish. He brings honor,humility, integrity, graciousness, pride, and most important of all…giving grace ALL to God. He never brings attention to himself and gives credit to his fans and God.

@ Kray

Great stuff.

If in the end and Floyd has all the chips to call shots, it will not matter at all. Manny would have walked on and moved forward. An honorable man who carries himself and his country on his back will never bend not even for a gazzilion dollars. This is what make Pacquiao such a big draw here in America. A lot of Floyd fans will never understand the big difference between the two. While Floyd climbs a hill in his backyard. Manny has to climb a mountain and cross the deep blue sea. He’s admired because he did it with grace in and outside the ring. When Pacquiao finally dropped Diaz he’s reaction as a human being was telecast around the world. The man understand the brutality of the sport and he understand that this was his only way out of poverty. A thankful man indeed of the thing that has changed his life.

I can go on and on and on. Floyd Jr can keep selling why anyone would turn away from a 25 million dollar drug test.The same man who has asked his own country men to support him like the way everyone supports the American troops at war. Same Americans who fighting a war not for money but for duty and honor. The man has no sense of the true value of things. Americans, conservative or liberals are intrigued by Manny Pacquiao. Yes they have heard of his rise through the boxing rank but they have also heard of his own personal quest to help and make a difference. His human side vs his brutal side is overwhelmed by his compassion and being a simple man. Sure he has made it and sure he has all the money in the world but he “KEPT IT REAL”. A phrase used amongst many American who have made it through music and sports but left the ‘HOOD’ as soon as they made it out, LOL! There’s nothing wrong with that but I find the phrase funny and contradictory. Manny kept it real and build a home in his poor hometown where he is still helping his fellow neighbors and community. Bringing light to dark nest poetically.

Okay, I have lost my way in to what ever it is I’m trying to say but I think I painted a clear picture.

Bobby Bagoong, Tol, Brad, Bro, Pare. Nice try. You had made clear and have given your honest view to Floyds Jr Fans. Commonsense is never the strongest traits of Contrarians but their opinions are always welcome. You just have to be prepared on chasing that dogs tail all day long if you want’s to have a debate with hardcore Floyd fans. Funny things is that they believe that they are the majority when it comes to the argument of a 40 million dollar drug test. It’s a very CAPITALIST mind set.

To Simon,

Might as well add stool sampling, rectal examination, and full body cavity search. Floyd and his fans are constantly saying why doesn’t Manny take the test, and it never fails me that Manny did agree to the test. I’ll repeat it again, one right before the announcement of the fight, another prior to the 14 days before the fight, and one right after. And unlimited urine testing. If that is not enough or going way past what is necessary, I don’t know what is. Floyd then modifies it to 14 days…and Manny agreed, Floyd would have changed it to 7 days…I guarantee. Another Floyd’s dirty tactics.

Floyd needs Manny and Manny doesn’t need Floyd. He is already pursing a career in politics and other endeavors. He has numerous business throughout Asia and even in the United States. Manny also has numerous endorsements, securing his financially even after boxing. He doesn’t really care all that much about money, he just loves the simple life. Even Jinkee said “Mas madaming pera, mas maraming problema. Mas gusto ko pa ‘yong simpleng buhay.” Which translates to, “Having a lot of money means a lot of problems. I prefer a simple life.” Even Mama Pacquiao says the same thing, she says “we have too much money. I just want a simple life.” It can be overwhelming for people who never really had anything from the beginning. Now the world is their oyster and they long for the simple things in life. Floyd long for the wealth and fame, quite a contrast to Manny family. Because Floyd is so money hungry and craves for the spotlight, his morals and ethics have been compromised to the worse. We all know what greed does to people, they will do evil things. And we are not surprised of Floyds actions rescently. Still Manny doesn’t say a thing. Sometimes, silence speaks louder.

Arnel, why not make it $100M? Floyd is never going to pay it anyway? Why is he making such a big deal out of it. He is asking Pac to submit to invasive and unnecessary blood testing all during his training camp, on top of the 3 he agreed to and on top of all the urine testing unlimited and random. Pac’s condition is an “only if” that will never happen. Mayweahter’s conidtion is implemented immediately upon agreement. Just a tad difference between the two, dontcha think?

Just to clarify my earlier post and to those who still “idolizes” Floyd, the $10,000,000 is just an arbitrary amount. I’m not exactly aware of the amount he made at the Cotto fight but let’s just assume it was 10 mil. That amounts to 380,000,000 million Pesos in the Philippines. In a country where you can get a Toyota Corolla (Camry here in the US) for 1 Million Pesos, that means he can literally cause the biggest traffic jam Manila has ever seen in decades just by purchasing 380,000,00 vehicles. (the car dealership owner would probably have a smile on his face till he dies.)

By stating you “new” terms to fight Pacquiao, you did not accomplish anything towards shaking off the now accepted notion that you are basically afraid of him. No fighter with an ounce of dignity will accept a 70/30 purse from you, unless of course the guy need the money which Pacquiao is definitely not. You can keep the $25 million dollars for a blood test to yourself. Looks like you’re the one who need it.

or floyd may quit boxing and apply for commisioner

When someone you are on top inside and outside of the ring , there is always somebody who will come out and try to put you down. Always, the root cause are envy and the arrogrance of accepting that someone else is much much better than you.

Focus on what is on hand Mayweather, Shane Mosley, stop bashing someone far greater than you….. You might get surprised when a 38 year old will shut you up and humiliate you!

One piece of advise, it’s not too late for you to grow up! Else you when people look back 30 years from now is antics of boxer whose mentality is that of a 3 year old….

I’m tired of responding the same old rehash. To Ares, preston…and all Floyd fans, just tell Floyd to fight. Simple as that, JUST FCUKIN’ FIGHT!!! Nobody in the history of boxing is made to do this type of testing…NOBODY…especially to a guy who is not linked to any drugs and has passed every test. JUst fcukin’ fight.

Jude, exactly right. That was what started it all. And now, with Mayweather’s new demands of random unlimited blood testing all the way up to the night of the fight and and 70/30 purse split, he has found the perfect out for him never to have to face Pac in the ring. What a coward! Too bad he is so good at fooling people. They should never let this guy into the hall of fame. He is very talented no doubt but he is horrible for boxing with this egotistical based precedent he is setting. No longer will the best fight the best anymore. Now one fighter has to make the other fighter jump thru as many hoops as he can think of to avoid the fight. I real fighter has an need to prove to the world that his is the best. Sadly Mayweather is lacking that.

It’s just Floyd gracefully saying he’ll never fight Pacquiao. Read between the lines people. Right after the Cotto fight, Floyd Sr was videotaped (look it up on youtube) saying he doesn’t want his son to get in the ring with Pacquiao. And that’s when they started the PED BS.

Carlos- please, show us where Xlocaine is illegal to use under certain conditions, but is allowed without reservations in Nevada.

wow——–looks like none of you Pac guys want to acknowlegde or attempt to response to the excellent posts by Ares. You can “believe” that Floyd is “scared”, and keep peddling out all of this emotional, and illogical BS, but you guys just cannot seem to answer QUESTIONS. The pissing contest that you guys like to engage in is a waste of time. I can “believe” all day that Pac is on PEDS, just like you guys can “believe” that Floyd is “scared”,…….I can “believe” all day that Pac has something to hide by not taking the blood test, just as you all can “believe” that Xylocaine is banned in 49 states….ok, and then what?

Mayweather’s ability to fool fans is getting slimmer every second, thanks for the internet that brought our generation the relevance and the importance of valid information that is available upon a click of a button.

I want to point out that todays generation is not like the Muhammad Ali generation where a boxer can YAP and BRAGG all about himself and not being penalize by the fans because of the absence of the internet. For Floyd those days are GONE, don’t count on your loud ALI-type Yap to save you because these generation is not under the media of force-feed information where fans have no choice but to believe what they see and heard on a Black and White tv.

These gneration is much more colorful than the Black and White tv era thus making all ages equally smart. We can object and refuse informations we see that does not deserve any merit. We are the critics and judges of all and upcoming scenarios and informations from all media links.

Media and freedom of information is what making Floyd more ridiculous than ever. Sorry for you Floyd but these ain’t the ALI era where internet was unavailable to everyone. Good luck Floyd for all the Ploys.

Yes xylocaine may be perfectly legal if taken more than 7 days before a fight. But Floyds shoots up with xylocaine IN HIS DRESSING ROOM right before his fights. That would be a little LESS than 7 days making it ILLEGAL unless of course you are fighting in Nevada. Mannys will agree NOT to use xylocaine I am sure. Why won’t Floyd? Floyd says if he is agreeing to random and unlimited blood testing, why won’t Manny? If I were Pac, I would say that I will fight you without ANY PED’s INCLUDING XYLOCAINE. Why won’t you agree to fight under the same drug free conditions that I will. Where is MY level playing field? You don’t think that bding able to punch someone with all your might and feel nothing when you do it gives you an edge? What about all that talk about protecting the fighter, concern for the fighter’s health, yada yada yada.

It seems that Mayweather is anticipating too hard about what will happen after the fight between him and Mosley. Mayweather vs Pacquiao!!!

From what I’m reading between the line is that He really doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao either today, tomorrow, or in the future. He’s already making lots of excuses (demands that are unreasonable) at this early stage even though the fight is between him and Mosley and is not yet finish.

The Mayweathers have turned the sport of boxing into a circus

with all this olympic-style drug testing demands. It’s all a

sham to cover up for whatever inadequacies they have! They offer

no proof and no one else can come up with any proof!

And the Boxing Writers Association of America have spoken. And

overwhelmingly they did!

They know who the real deal is.

Ares- you have made the two best comments on this blog thus far, and you nailed it perfectly from the blood test, to the weight penalty BS. You gave a very common sensed answer on how GBP handled Mosley/Judah and how Top Rank handled Maayweather/Pac…….I dont think that these Pac apologist will be trying to bring that up again…..lolol. And the fact you also point out about Clottey missing weight 11 times, makes Floyd’s so-called “history” of missing weight a joke, but Manny nor his camp wants to assess a penny to assure that Clottey comes in at proper weight??? That just makes the 10,000,000 weight penalty clause look even more spurious, and tells us who actually wanted to make this fight happen, and who didnt. Dude, you absolutely hit it out of the ballpark with that one, and as expected, none of the Pac apologists, who havent been shy about voicing their opinions, have all of a sudden turned in for the night……..lolololol.

For every “expert” that claims PEDs can be detected without a blood test, there’s another “expert” that claims it can’t. That being the case, they should do both, blood and urine, to eliminate doubt–until such time that a proven and widely accepted method is adopted.

This really serves as more a deterrent, than an actual means of catching someone in the act, anyway. Basically, it’s a roadblock to any boxer who even thinks about employing the juice, to get an edge. And that is a GOOD thing. I agree that the commission should be handling this…why they are not, shows they either don’t care or don’t know where to begin. But, what is clear is their methods are easy to game, by an experienced PED user. And a change is overdue.

As far as this fight getting made, it ain’t gonna happen; because, Floyd will have proven this mutual screening can work, with or without the sanctioing body’s support. And if he wins, on top of that, he will have the edge in any negotiations. The tables will have completely turned.

I have to say if Floyd pulls this off, he will be holding all the chips.

But, Mosely may be the one who wins overall. Even if he loses against Floyd, he still may have a chance to fight Pac. It would still be an attractive fight for both fighters with a decent payday for both of them. Who else, in that division would really be left to fight, and make good money? Andre Berto, is not really a PPV draw, at this stage in hos career. Paul Williams, is not a WW, whether he threatens to be or not. Shane may wind up pulling an Ocean’s 11 in boxing, by leaving the sport with two of his biggest paydays coming at the end of his career. His legacy is pretty much cemented, anyway.

C’mon Floyd make this fight happen! We need this fight. Pacquiao agreed to everything already except on evading drug tests.

Don’t let us down have some balls, alright!

This blood testing is a smokescreen anyway. If it can be proven that urine testing or hair follicle or saliva detects everything a blood test does and more and with more accuracy, Floyd will lose his excuse to get out of fighting Pac. Pac has agreed to any kind of testing Floyd wants, unlimited, random no cutoff, whatever. Just not the invasive blood testing while he is in training. After the fight, no problem. Floyd needs to be exposed for the coward that he is. He is a con man. He will NEVER fight Pac. His focus is on finding excuses not to fight him. If he were a real fighter, he would make the fight. What a fraud.

Mayweather never wanted to fight Pac in the first place. Pac was willing to take plenty of drug tests. Unlimited and random urine tests all the way up to the fight. This is not about drug testing. It is about “blood” testing and May only wants it because he knows how much it bothers Pac and he knew it was his way out of the fight. If he demands blood testing all the way up to the fight and a greater share of the purse he is saying that he has found the perect excuse to NEVER have to face Pac in the ring and he can spin it where he puts the blame on Pac. What a con man. What a coward. How more people do not see right thru him is amazing to me. The purse should be 60/40 in favor of Pac to begin with. Was Mayweather EVER involved in a megafight that was exciting? Other thnn Corrales that took place a million years ago, can anyone who saw the DLH fight with Mayweather that they got their money’s worth? He should be thanking Pac for allowing him to get 50/50.

@lapu

you’re right. it should have been done sooner.

let’s do it now…

The timing of the demand for random blood testing is a suspect, of course it matters….Zab Judah wasnt about random blood testing…it was for blood testing but not random….

If its that an important issue why wasn’t it brought up before ? Why wait till Floyd demands it ????

If Floyd is a rich coward why then his Mercedez Bentz Mayback was repossessed in January 2009 ? And if he is rich why cant he just pay $500k cash instead of paying 16% interest rate and why was it repossessed ?

Pacmans camp just dont want to bow down to a challenger.They can also lie all they want to Floyd b’cuz hes accusing him but still that doesnt mean there hiding something or hes trying to hide something…

A few points:

1. random testing should be a standard in all combat sports, and I agree that Floyd should appeal to the NSAC to institute this as a policy (Arum had a good point in letting both sides give arguments and then letting the NSAC make a decision) – that being said, Pac shouldn’t refuse to do random testing (what I find amusing is that Roach insisted on nothing 30 days out but then renegged when it was pointed out that Manny had blood drawn 24 days out before Hatton. Then, they insist that Manny is effected for 3 days when blood is drawn – if that’s the case then why not agree to the 14-day window proposed by May? Ultimately, I think Pac’s camp just doesn’t want to play by “Floyd’s rules”, it’s that simple.

2. About the weight issue with JMM, the weight limit was 147 lbs, but the Marquez camp wanted to add into the contract the $300K penalty for every pound over 144 (Floyd even came in under the welterweight limit at 146) – the fight wasn’t in jeapordy for not making 144 and no titles would have been stripped, it was a simple contract stipulation made by the fighters.

3. To Bobby Bagoong – Mosley was never caught with PED’s, he admitted to it when the BALCO investigation was underway (he admitted to unknowingly taking the “clear” and EPO).

If theres nothing wrong with random blood testing and if it is really true and something that’s on all Pac haters minds why then it was never brought up before ???? Tell me. There’s suspicion here b’cuz it only came about when it was brought up by Floyd against Pacman. If he didnt OR doesnt suspect Pacman and if hes not making excuses why then, demand random blood testing ? Why Pacman and not on others before him and why now ??? While it may be a legit concern of his, it still doesn’t answer the first question. THAT IS STILL THE BIG QUESTION!

vince vegas,

here here man, too true buddy.

we are all fans of boxing and we want to see this fight. plain and simple and yet again we are denyed by the fighters promoters and managers.

doesnt matter that people disagree or agree it just shows how much people want the fight.

I dont think Pacman will have a problem with random blood testing IF its required by the governing ruling body of the Professional boxing organization, just like the NSAC. But it has to be legit, be studied and voted in favor by majority of the Professional boxers all around the world, promoters, trainers and agreed to by the NSAC, the World Boxing Organizations, boxing commissions, the Professional Athletic Organizations and such b’cuz that’s the democratic way and b’cuz its an international sports just like the Olympics. It cant be a personal demand or rule made up by an individual!
Until that time comes theres no legitimacy in Floyds demand so f*ck him !

Sounds to me me like Mayweather is talking his way out of a fight. He will be yesterdays news when Mosley knocks him out. Go retire Floyd boxing fans won’t miss you.

preston,

u truely are an idiot arent you!

listern to what people are saying.

the 10 mill per pound came about because floyd payed jmm 300k lik it was pocket money!!!

the 10 mill is justified because floyd cheated when he came in over by 2 pound!

now does pac actually want floyds 10 mill? i doubt it. all the 10 mill is for is to say to floyd DONT CHEAT!

pacquiao has a right to ask for that because, well, its true floyd did cheat, whereas a random blood testing stipulation is based on what?

floyd trying to clean up the sport!!! dont make me laugh!

TO MANNSTER!!!

why is you still have not answered my question this is my 3rd response c’mon man WHAT IS WRONG WITH RANDOM TESTING FOR ALL ATHLETES???????? its because you know there isnt anything wrong and your such a PACMAN fan it is hard to admit huh? im just being honest if i was at work and my boss said “hey there are people saying you using drugs we need you to take a random blood and urine test” i would be pissed off but i would take the test to prove i am innocent. now if i just quit my job that would make me look guilty right??? not only is pacman not taking the test because of his offended feelings! but his not even willing to take the test to prove to his fans the mayweather is full of sh*t isnt that a little suspect to you that he wont even do it for his fans??

bobby bagoong- and I will try this again for the third time, because this is hilarious to me, and you know what they say…..”third time’s a charm”. You said it VERY clearly that Mayweather has a history of comming into fights overweight because he came into ONE fight 2lbs above his agreed upon weight with JMM…..no problem……and I said that if you felt that way then at least be consistent. Being that Pac has been KO’d twice in his career, does that mean that he (Pac) has a history of getting KTFO?????????

bobby bagong- so now you are saying that Manny only came up with the 10,000,000 dollar figure to insure that “money” mayweather wouldnt come into the fight overweight??? But, you said that Mayweather has a “history” of comming into fights overweight…….so what made you or Pac soooo sure that he wouldnt or couldnt be able to that time??? LOLOLOLL……like I said you guys are sooo funny. Things make perfect sense when it makes Pac look good. What IF Floyd would have come into the fight………..lets say 2 lbs overweight like he did with JMM………hmmmm, well with Pacs weight penalty, then “money” Mayweather would have essentially been fighting for free.

Is there a tissue test to determine what Floyd was using during his 18 months supposed retirement to heal those nagging tenosynovitis and osteoartihritic shoulder joints?

To Manster,

My DAD once said “a guy who speaks the loudest with hate usually has more to hide than the other guy.” I thought it was very profound from my DAD…miss ya DAD…I learned a lot from him.

TO ALL BOXING FANS

lets just pretend that its not floyd and pacman just for a second. what is wrong with random blood testing for any professional athlete??? there are athletes out there right now who are being paid millions of dollars and are cheating by using PED’s. if you are a pro athlete you should take random drug testing period. athletes are getting away with it everyday wether its football,boxing,baseball or any sport.PACMAN should be a leader and start the new epidemic of random blood testing. if the 2 top fighters in the world do this it will set the example for all other boxers and athletes of others sports to follow suit. this will clean up sports period. the boxing commission has been using the same guidlines for 40 years it is old and out dates it is time for something new. what in your house is 40 years old and still works as good as something you could by new today????

give feedback yall what is wrong with the testing and starting a new more modern way of catching cheaters???

To Preston,

You are twisting this around. First off, if you read what I said, it can modified if the fighters agree. Mosley doesn’t have to due jack $hit if didn’t want to take the blood test. But the thing with Mosley, he wants to prove to everyone he is clean because he was caught using PED’s. Read my post again, and then again. I clearly stated it can be modified if both fighters agree. But the bottomline, another fighter doesn’t have to adhere to another boxers demands. It is NSAC rules that they are the ones who require only Urine testing for drugs, and for the history of all boxing, nobody has been as demanding an Olympic style drug testing to any fighter except Floyd who is demanding it from a fighter who has tested clean and never been linked to using PED’s. Now saying that, If Golden boy didn’t want Mosley to take the blood test then they shouldn’t demand it from Manny. It is wrong in every sense. Your making a spin on my post just like Floyd making his spin on Manny not agreeing to his ludicrous demands. Mosley doesn’t have to give in at all but he has his reason. And I’ve already said it.

TO ALL BOXING FANS

lets just pretend that its not floyd and pacman just for a second. what is wrong with random blood testing for any professional athlete??? there are athletes out there right now who are being paid millions of dollars and are cheating by using PED’s. if you are a pro athlete you should take random drug testing period. athletes are getting away with it everyday wether its football,boxing,baseball or any sport.PACMAN should be a leader and start the new epidemic of random blood testing. if the 2 top fighters in the world do this it will set the example for all other boxers and athletes of others sports to follow suit. this will clean up sports period. the boxing commission has been using the same guidlines for 40 years it is old and out dates it is time for something new. what in your house is 40 years old and still works as good as something you could by new today????

bobby bagong- wait a minute……so, now you are willing to admit that Floyd’s blood testing demands to Shane are all about “stipulations”…….”The sole reason why Mosley took the same stips…..”, but when you talk about Floyd’s fight with Pac, it changes to “rules”???….”Rules of blood testing should only come from the governing bodies of boxing. Not Floyd”………….lolol,,,dude this is why you Pac guys are sooooo funny……you guys are always contradicting yourselves………whatever sounds good for your argument is the position that you take…..if it makes Pac looks good, then you say what is expediate…..if it makes somebody else look bad, well, then it really doesnt matter.

u go on about how floyd agreed to 147 etc… will WTF did he wont manny to do. step up to junior middleweight while pac cant even barely make welter limit???

and 50 50 split. it should have been 60 40 in pacs favour.

people pay to watch manny fight, while they pay to watch floyd get koed! FACT!!!!

uhmmmmmm bobby bagong- who said anything about Floyd doing the right thing by not comming into the fight at his agreed upon weight with JMM????? I most certainly didnt, nor would I sit here to justify it……..I just find it funny that you guys have took that issue and ran with it, and all of a sudden Floyd has a history of comming into fights overweight. Ok, if you guys fell like that then be consistent…….Manny Pacquiao has been KO’ed twice in his career, so does that mean that Manny Pacquiao has a history of being KTFO????? Can you answer the question???? Or will you proceed to evade the question, and go off into this tirade again about Floyd’s fight with JMM??????

Latest reports….. Pac has a history of getting knocked out. Clottey is the under dog favorite to win by 9th round TKO.

No matter what Floyd will do to avoid Pac,he will never be able to take the pressure of the demand of the public and that is to just man up and be willing to fight, if not the fans will serenade Floyd ’til he goes further mental.

written by Jake Jimenez.

I had to share this…it is funny as hell.

“Count Floydracula is a fictional character, the titular antagonist of uncle Roger Stoker’s 1897 Gothic horror boxer Count Floydracula and archetypal vampire. Some aspects of his character may have been inspired by the 15th century black American general and Mayweatherchian Prince Floyd Sr. III the Impaler. In uncle Roger Stoker’s gym Count Floydracula’s steroidbiography, xylocaine characteristics, chickenpowers, duckabilities and hypocrisy are narrated in whole by multiple “a” holes from different perspectives. The most informative of these narrators are Tony Atlas Harker, Oscar dela Van Helsing and Shanemina Harker. Count Floydracula inhabits a decaying castle in the Floydian Mountains near the Duckling Pass. Contrary to the vampires of Top Rank folklore, which are portrayed as repulsive to blood tests, pacman -like creatures, Count Floydracula can exude a veneer of aristocratic odor which does not mask his unfathomable evil.”

BTW….To Mario,
AT&T did not sign Floyd as their formal endorser like Nike. He was just hired to play a part in a commercial…thats it. Currently, Floyd doesn’t have any major company using him as their official endorser. His promoter of FM promotions Leonard Ellerbe says Floyd is being choosey. He said why Floyd is not an endorser of a soda or sportswear company- “why be part of the team when you can be the owner of the team.” Which implies Floyd shouldn’t settle for endorsements but to buy it.” Yeah right….thats why he had problem paying the IRS, some his exotic cars getting repoed, still owing banks a lot of money and some of his properties either when on foreclosure or having a lien. The reason why Floyd doesn’t have any major company signing him as their official endorser, it is because NOBODY is interested. He is a poor role model and his marketing value is practically nonexistent. The only reason why people want to see his fight, really it is to watch him lose. Once he loses, nobody will care about him afterwards.

Bobby Bagong- Floyd came in 2 lbs overweight against JMM and all of a sudden he has a history of comming into fights overweight???? Does that mean that Manny Pacquiao, who has been KO’ed twice in his career, has a history of getting KTFO?????

At dkb

Wat does all gotta do with floyd avoidin pac with his demands?? Floyd is among the best of this decade still doesn’t mean he can determine the rulez period

It just shows how desperate Floyd is,especially that Manny was awarded as Boxer of the decade.He will try everything to avoid fighting Pacquiao in an unweakened state.

Yes some people say that it is just a small blood,but individual differs in opinions,thinking and fears. I know people that outweight me by more that 30 lbs. that are scared/squirmy of small bugs and I’m not.

So why not just follow the regulation mandated by the sports commissions.Then if a fighter wouldn’t agree with the rules
he/she may compete in the Olympics or anywhere that the guidelines suit him/her.

Floyd will fight Pacquiao only when the later is not as fast
and not as strong.

@Lex, i’ve called you out twice now asking for a reply on my comments that i had made earlier. Please give me a rational explanation for these two fighters:

Roberto Duran started his career weighing 119 lbs. He later went on to win titles at 135, 147, 154, 160 and 168 lbs. At 154, 35 lbs above his debut weight, he devastated Davey Moore, essentially ending his career. At 168lbs, almost 50 lbs above his debut weight, he KTFO Iran Barkley. Clearly “hands of stone” was a roid cheat.

Sugar Ray Leonard began his career at 147 lbs, yet managed to knock out Donny Lalonde to win both the WBC 168 lb and 175 lb titles. The obvious conclusion: ROIDS!!
PBF was the 130 lbs titlist and at 147 lb and 154 he’s knocked out…..never mind, he doesn’t knock anyone out. He’s clearly NOT on steroids.

Pls answer to my reply.

Manny will never fight Floyd

To Lex,

Bro…you are in denial. Floyd was truly backed in to fighting Mosley. Floyd himself said at interviews that he is not interested to fighting Mosley. He said this over and over on several interviews. Go check out his interview with Brian Kenny of ESPN. Floyd said it himself in his own EXACT WORDS the reason why he won’t fight Mosley…”Shane Mosley is not a PPV attraction.” while slapping his hands to make a point. And when Sugar Shane approached him after Floyd’s fight with JMM, Max Kellerman pointed out Sugar Shane Mosley is one fight people want to see, and when Mosley came on the ring with Floyd waving him in, Floyd said “Ummmm…..um…Shane Mosley is an excellent fighter and I let Leonard Ellerbe and my promoter conduct my fights.” And this is the same Floyd who went on TV saying Manny won’t call him out and that Manny should be the one calling him out instead of his trainer Freddie Roach or his promoter Bob Arum. If Floyd said he wanted this fight from the start then why didn’t he just accept the fight right then and there? Instead he came off hypocritical when he started accusing Manny of ducking him and letting his promoters dictate who he fights. While Floyd said himself, I’ll let my promoter and Ellerbe conduct my fights and they are doing a great job. Since 2006 Floyd had many chances to accept Mosley’s challenge. Mosley has been after him for nearly 4 or 5 years. Floyd should just shut the fcuk up and fight…his lips are flapping way too much and it is making him sound more contradicting. Many see Floyds ranting and raving about Manny as another way of trying to put the blame on Manny when practically everyone is pointing the fault towards Floyd. They did a poll at the LA Times on whose fault it is on why the fight didn’t happen. If you add Floyd’s manager and promoter, team Mayweather is too blame by a whopping landslide of nearly 92% while Team Pacquiao is a measly 8%. Floyd is on an offensive attack but unfortunately for him, everybody still thinks he is at fault because he is being perceived as the coward of looking a way out of the fight. It was already put out there that Floyd ducked many fighters, the public opinion was overwhelmingly in favor saying Floyd ducked the best fighter. So when he made the demand of random blood testing on Manny, it made it even worse for him. Because right now, most of the public believe he is afraid to fighting Manny. And the people who believe Manny is hiding something because he wouldn’t give in to Floyds ridiculous demands is very minute. The problem with Floyd is the public knows he has big mouth and a lot of the stuff he says are lies and he gets caught contradicting himself. And having Floyd Sr and his Uncle Roger constantly making stupid public statements only makes Floyd Jr as another accomplice. They say the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. All boxing fans want is just a fight and none of this stupid accusations and random blood testing crap. First fight and then make a crusade to make a change. Not during the negotiation of the fight because it comes out Floyd is running on fear and paranoia. Floyd had many opportunities to make a case. Especially when Mosley, Vargas, Toney, RJJ, Hopkins, Klitschko, Marino, and Holyfield were exposed to having been linked to taking PEDs. He would have ample ammunition to make his case instead he used Manny. Manny has never been linked to using PEDs and passed all the test EVERYONE took including Floyd. This whole thing with the ramdom blood testing, innuendos and accusation is basically an all out smear campaign on Manny. It tells you this smear campaign is not being bought since respectable Boxing Writers Association of America voted Manny as fighter of the decade. And on top of that, Manny being put on Time Magazine cover. Awards are still coming in for Manny, and allthis smear campaign by Floyd is making him look like a little b1tch. It is not working.

@Lex,
Bro your the biggest joke!!!get a life cuz!!lol your the biggest manny hater, appreciate boxing dude!!

I am not saying anything, just checking to see if my comments are getting through.

@ BOBBY….
ENJOY THE GRUB AND BREW, I KNOW I WILL! PACMAN!!!!!! FLOYD IS GOING TO HAVE A DULL FIGHT WITH MOSLEY. MOSLEY WANTS TOO FIGHT AND FLOYD WANTS TOO SURVIVE A BORING 12 ROUND FIGHT! I HOPE FLOYD PROOVES ME WRONG, BUT HE WONT. I PROMISE!!!!!

well floyd you are a coward.. you are the best trash talker in boxing history.. can you shut your big mouth??? such a girl!!!

How was Floyd forced into starting negotations with the best welterweight in the world?? Mosley-Berto was still scheduled when MAYWEATHER INTIATED NEGOTATIONS BEFORE ANYONE IN THE MEDIA EVEN BROUGHT MOSLEY UP AS FLOYDS NEXT POSSIBLE OPPONENT. GO BACK TO PAGE 22 OR SO ON THIS VERY WEB SITE AND LOOK HOW PEOPLE WERE SAYING FLOYD WAS GOING TO FIGHT MOSLEY BEFORE BERTO PULLED OUT. but at first it was Floyd wouldn’t fight him, that it was a lie, then Floyd wouldn’t sign a contract, and now that he has, its he was forced into it. Ignoring what really happened. Go back and look. No one had mentioned a possible Mayweather-Mosley bout next, until Floyd did! But yea it sounds better if you lie about that.

To Sweet Science,

yeah me too…but i’m looking forward to the food. Filipino food combined with a Manny Pacquiao fight is all win. The pancit, lumpia, lechon, chicken adobo, chocolate stew, all the other Filipino dishes..and rice, it just makes a great day. We eat and drink beer (San Miguel) from noon till past the fight. Then play a little poker. Its all win.

Floyd and Manny both were fighting at 106 pounds when they were 16. The difference is Manny is able to knock out bigger opponents when landing the same punches against smaller opponents didn’t. Thats the point. Bonds started his career hitting a lot of home runs. Then he suddenly was hitting a crazy number of home runs. And look at Duran when he moved up in weight! He basically got fat to move up. Blood and urine tests are needed to see if a fighter is clean. Random tests. This is something the head of the USADA, WADA, and Victor Conte all have said numerous times. This is what Manny flat out refused. Anyways, Manny can take all the PEDs he wants to beat a second tier opponent next month since he insisted on fighting in Texas, a state that won’t test him at all. Not one test, not even a urine one. Manny still hasn’t given an honest answer why he won’t take any random blood tests. If he did, all you wouldn’t have to be on here making up excuses and lies as to why your idol won’t take random blood tests and why he’s afraid of elite fighters.

Manny refused RANDOM blood tests. That were in the original proposal. Mayweather never threw anything extra in. In fact he gave in to every other issue there was. Manny and Floyd are the same size. Mayweather weighed less when he fought De La Hoya than Manny did. But hey, if I was Manny I would rather fight Clottey too. Thats another easy, cherry-picked opponent.

LMAO. Yea, all the press Mayweather is getting is going to backfire. Lets just see how the Clottey fight does compared to the “The Main Event” on May 1!!! May 1 easily doubles Pacquiao and another cherry-picked opponent. Boxing fans finally want to see Manny step up and fight an elite fighter. But that’s looking like something we will never see, because Manny is simply scared of the top fighters. Come on, Mayweather would never hear the end of it for ducking someone because they are “too good” but that’s exactly what Manny did. Now Mayweather is fighting the guy that was too good for Manny and Manny is fighting another second tier opponent.

I’m going to download that fight too. to hell with paying for it! I will be purchasing the march 13th fight though.

I’m willing to bet, DLH and the rest of the Golden Boys want Floyd to just STFU already because he is drawing way too much heat. It can actually backfire where the fight with Mosley may be boycotted. I know I’m not going to pay to watch his fight with Mosley but I will download it. I want to see Manny fight because I know there will be action…lots of it. Plus being a pinoy….we always get together have a big feast at all the fights.

Guys, believe it or not, P4P is not really an anti Manny fan, I understand what he says but I already think he knows that Manny will bring it on and Floyd should just shut the fcuk up and fight. I’ve heard worse arguments against Manny and P4P is really in the same category of the some I’ve heard. He’s a lot more reasonable. Many already are not buying into Floyd blood testing and cleaning up sports crusade because of the contradictory things he says. He says he is out to clean out boxing but to be honest, he is crusading due to fear and paranoia. When you are driven by fear and paranoia, you will almost do anything to hide your true feelings. However, it doesn’t detract Floyd extreme talent for boxing and his boxing IQ which I believe is not even debatable. But you can’t just win on IQ alone and talent. You must have a combination of those 2 plus the heart of a warrior. Roberto Duran who’s warrior heart propelled him as listed #5 greatest boxer in history.

Manny won’t say anything harsh towards Floyd because that is not in his character. In the Asian culture, boasting, bragging and trash talking is truly frowned upon and not honorable. It is truly embedded in the Asian culture for thousands of years. Floyd should try to understand why Manny does what he does because a lot if is mainly do to cultural beliefs. Also many athletes are very superstitious too, and thats including Manny. I remember reading an article awhile ago about a baseball player eats a hot dog from the stand at every game. He won’t go out on the field until he eats a hot dog. Some people pray to God at every game, does it help?? It doesn’t matter because inside they believe.

I’ll repeat again, all USADA administer random blood testing to all Olympians….but it is ALL URINE TESTING….NO BLOOD TESTING. They will do blood testing after they are complete with their competitions. This is true!!! Removing a vile of blood from an athlete who is under rigorous training and competition are not recommended by physicians. They would prefer for you to recover at least a day for safety and well being.

Pbf CLEARLY doesn’t ever want to fight Manny! His mouth keeps diggin holes for himself. Has anybody heard a word from manny or his interpreter about floyd since the failed negotiations? no………. & Yes, Manny wants to fight the best fighters out there but floyd is a fight he doesn’t need anymore. to much controversy surrounding it now. Floyd tainted it with his accusations. I would love to see pacman fight pbf but i dont think he deserves a fight now. to many stipulations in the contract. Manny’s still a damn good fighter and floyd is still a damn good entertainer. why is everybody acting like floyd took this fight with mosley head on, like he has been meaning to make it happen? It took his ass 5 f@ckin days to sign the contract. He was going to fight pauli mala-who gives a damn and he was talking about a rematch with hatton. who really wants to see that? I really want to see him fight mosley head up and not run. let’s see him take the fight to mosley, manny always takes the fight up to his opponents! ALWAYS!!!!!!!

@Stonehanded

Those are all very good points , and I do agree with you. I don’t know nor am I saying Pacquiao is on roids. like you said Pacquiao also had some ridiculous demands but the bashing and bias seems to be one sided. I would love to see the fight they are both great fighters

Reminder: USADA backs up urine testing which is what Manny Pacquiao has agreed to in unlimited testing…So Im telling you Pacman is not on PED, HGH, or whatever…its just a ploy for the Mayweather and team to “re-paint” a different picture of Pacman in the public eye, to cast doubt, to discourage would be fans and a excuse to escape the fight from Pacman…simple as that !

Lapu

Floyd first fights as Pro were knock outs , many in the 1st and second round at a min and 12 seconds. look it up or I can send links to you. also many were by stoppage Diego Corrales (RIP ) who was 33-0 and the current champ suffered his first knock down and first lost to Floyd Mayweather Jr . Please do your home work check facts and not just post

@ Ken D
it is important to read a post and understand what the person said and why they said it. The post that I wrote with the glove size in it was because another person talked about all the demands and things that floyd were asking for, also you are correct the Nevada Boxing commission does not specify the glove size but that was a request that Pacquiao made and Mayweather agreed so the argument about the what the rules of the Nevada boxing commission are only matter depending on the your trying to get accross.

KFC JR sounds like KFC SR…like father like son

All apart from P4P,
Stop responding to this tube-he has no idea what boxing is about and is just desperate to share a private sauna with PBF.
Noticed a few people talking about mayweathers concessions with glove size-10oz gloves are not regulation size for 147lbs,8oz are so there was no concession by Floyd just him trying it on AGAIN!

floyd can say whatever he wants, though desperate at first glance, its his own free speech, and he might actually have some leverage. He just better beat shane, otherwise…..

floyd haters will be the 1st ones in line to hate on him had he took on clottey or some other guy that coming off a brutal loss !! he tried to fight manny pacioua n manny dont want none so he took on one of the BEST welters imo. of all time !! mosley beat delahoya i think twice .. once for sure !! what does it take to please yall ?? some people are just never happy i guess ..

for some reason, floyd reminds me so much of the boy who cried wolf. Floyd sounds like already laying the groundwork for a possible excuse in not fighting Manny in the future. The problem is he is only talking to himself. This guy is really more entertaining outside the ring. He reminds one of a village idiot whose comments were nonsense but entertaining.

Let’s move on, Floyd. Manny won’t fight ever, he’s not the kind of guy that will bow to you. Keep doing your blood testing crusade. But, don’t make this a personal crusade against Manny. I’m for the boxing fans in this case because, it seem like you keep on attacking him. Do you hear anything more about him after your failed negotiation. And whats with the warning, the fight is not going to happen. There are a lot of good boxer on the rise that any one of you can fight. Do you see Pacquiao team paying attention to you. After Clottey, Khan, Maliggnani, Margarito and so on are lined up to fight Manny. Who cares about you, Manny can make money anyhow.

@ Jeckyl

I am aware and understand that, My comment was in reference was to blood testing making him weak and your reference to how 36 min in the ring is different to what Olympian such as Phelps or Bolt.

Got this from yahoo sports. I found it entertaining. This boxing writer answers a fans question.

Do you really think Floyd Mayweather Jr. should be given credit for taking a fight with Sugar Shane Mosley? I don’t think Floyd would have taken this fight if he wasn’t forced to do so. His back was against the wall on this one. If he didn’t fight Shane, he’d be labeled a coward for ducking opponents. In short, he had no way out. That’s just my opinion. He’s probably wishing he had announced an earlier fight with a cherry-picked opponent with the likes of Paulie Malignaggi.

Will Avestro
San Diego

Will, I’m not sure I get your logic. He negotiated to fight the No. 1 pound-for-pound guy in the world. When that fight couldn’t be made, he didn’t take a fight with someone like Clottey; he took a bout against the No. 3 pound-for-pound fighter in the world. What does he have to do to please some of you people? If he doesn’t take the fight you want him to take, you label him a chicken. If he does, you say he didn’t want to. He hasn’t been pushed much since moving to welterweight and that’s a blight on his career. But he’s now insisting he’s taking on all comers and he’s proving that by his actions. I’ll be the first to scream bloody murder if he attempts to fight lightly regarded guys from other divisions. But when he signs to fight the elite guys in his weight class, he should be commended. And here’s another strange thing: Right around Christmas, when the drug testing dispute between Mayweather and Pacquiao became public, Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum said publicly he was trying to arrange a fight with Malignaggi. Aren’t you being hypocritical for criticizing Mayweather for even thinking of that without criticizing Pacquiao for the same thing?

@Paul Williams: So you’re telling me that you have proof he doesn’t use it fight night? I’m throwing it out there and accusing him of using Xylocaine fight night so it must be true right? I would rather have Manny agree and take the tests, but don’t hold it against him because it isn’t against the rules. Accusations are just accusations and mean nothing without proof. So I can’t hold it against Manny, but PBF is just using this drug platform to run away from $40million and is trying to blame it on Manny. I love boxing and if you were really Paul Williams you would be calling PBF a coward for not wanting to fight you too.

Damn! Manny’s fans comment on Floyd’s articles more than Floyd’s fans. It seems like Manny’s fans are more obsessed with Floyd than Manny.

I just watched Manny’s fight with Cotto again. How the hell does the suppose smaller guy come into the fight looking bigger than the supposed bigger guy?

Mayweather just explained a more sophisticated version of how he will be making himself worthy of being avoided by Pacquiao.
Instead of just saying He wants to fight pac at all cost as he use to say he’ll beat Pac easily, he is now orchestrating the necessary steps on how not to make a fight with the Pacman.

That is how a scared Floyd is unless there are fools he can fool.

@Paul Williams,please dont tarnish Paul Williams name by using it and defending Floyd. Paul Williams will become one of the greatest! Paul Williams will make Floyds legacy miniscule! Stop using Paul Williams name! Paul Williams is greater than Floyd!

@ Jeckyl

The last time I check Boxing is in the Olympics

Oscar Delahoya is called the Golden Boy so is his promotion because he won an Olympic gold medal Floyd Mayweather won a bronze.

So what are you saying

@Paul Williams: You should tell your boy PBF to take a fight in Texas so there is no chance he will be using xylocaine fight night.

I agree with USMC, I wouldn’t want a guy like PBF on my side, you can see fear in his eyes and hear lies coming from his mouth to cover up his fear.

@USMC: What’s up devil dog? I’m a corpsman, thanks for serving brother.

PBF isn’t going to matter once Mosley whoops him. I think Mosley, even at 38, is too strong and just as fast as PBF. PBF got mad skills, but Mosley has more impressive wins on his resume and I think is hungrier (eye of the tiger baby). I’ll give PBF props for actually signing the contract to fight a legit WW. Then again he had no choice, otherwise he would’ve looked like a coward. In the end he’s going to be on the sidelines watching Mosley vs Pac.

Paul Williams,

Boxer’s that take a chance get’s hit. That is an exciting boxer. People watch exciting boxers.Manny Pacquiao is an epitome of a exciting boxer.No ands, buts and ifs.

To Paul, those people have connections to using PED’s. How about Manny? Who or what is he linked too? Provide prof not innuendos. If you don’t know, ask a court judge about proofs and evidence and the importance of them.

@ Bobby
exactly they are just two different type of fighters both good at there styles. Most casual fight love to see the all out brawl there are more exciting and will give that to Manny. A fighter fight there strengths and brawling is not one of Mayweathers strengths. This is why he won’t do it, Sugar Ray Leonard vs Reberto Duran, Duran won the first fight an all out brawl Leonard the second which he boxed. Are Paquiao fights more exciting definitely but if they meet it all depends on who fights the others fight (Leonard vs Duran)

It’s also highly plausible that B. Bonds used, McGwire, and Clemmens. Thats why they have * next to their names for ever for Possible cheating. Manny in the same boat now.

Nicely placed BORIS!

@ P4P

This athlete you mention does different training program. They exert energy on their on phase and does not forcely lose energy because they are not getting punch so, they can reserve or use it all in one burse. Boxing is totally different training program and you can lose all your energy in one punch alone not to mention being at the ring for 36 minutes. So, if you have swollen muscles or numbness in your muscles, it can give you problem with co-ordination on your body and can be an advantage to opponent.

To P4P again, I think you will also like to say to Floyd to shut up and fight. I know Manny will comply easily.

USADA backs up urine testing…the truth hurts, huh ? Go ahead and google it…