Mayweather-Mosley will receive an HBO 24/7 series, but not Pacquiao-Clottey bout
February 22nd, 2010
By Sean McDaniel: For Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Shane Mosley fans, they’ll be able to see an HBO Mayweather-Mosley 24/7 series for the May 1st mega fight at the MGM Grand, in Las Vegas, Nevada. The 24/7 series, which are usually very popular and powerful tools in hyping fights to the casual boxing fans of the sport, will go a long ways towards making the Mayweather-Mosley fight a huge pay-per-view moneymaker for the fighter. Sadly, the same thing can’t be said of the bout between World Boxing Organization welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey on March 13th.
The Pacquiao-Clottey fight more than the Mayweather-Mosley bout would seem to really need the HBO 24/7 series quite badly to introduce fans to Clottey, and try to make a fight, which on paper appears to be a huge mismatch, into a more appealing one for the unknowing fans.
ESPN writer Dan Rafael says that Mayweather and Mosley will start a three city promotional tour to hype the fight. The tour will begin on March 2nd at the Nokia Theater in Times Square in New York, and then on March 3rd it will move to the Lincoln Theater in Washington, D.C. The final city of the tour will be on March 4th at the NOKIA Plaza in L.A. Live in Los Angeles. The tour will be free to the public, which is great news for fans of both fighters.
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tHis fight would have the same result to Hopkins VS Jones JR 2 bout…….BORING FIGHTERS to watch!!!!!!!!
Anyone know where or how i can get a Mayweather- Mosley fight poster?
@Ryan
I agree 100% that Oscar was the engine that propelled both of these guys. There is no disputing that at all. I never said that Mayweather was the best draw in boxing overall, just in the sport today. DLH was the cash cow that carried boxing for a decade.
Facts still remain that Mayweather v DLH outsold Pac Man v DLH by over a million buys. Mayweather v Hatton outsold Pac Man v Hatton by over 100K which is over 15% difference.
Mayweather v Mosley is the second biggest fight that can be made in boxing right now and it will show on May 1st.
@ ryan dunn
floyd is and always has been a bigger draw than pacaiou..put any spin ya want on it but you cant dispute the numbers !! mayweather has a bigger fan base..yea alot watch for chance to see him beat..imo, the “big fight” wont happen anything other than 50/50 !! also if mosley may, does good numbers, floyd will want some negotiating power if you willto go his way ..last time top rank wanted to dictate most of all the terms of the fight..
LOL at some pacquiao loyalists who don’t even know their boxing history.
“Mayweather has never had a rematch even when the fights were too close to call.”
Hey moron, he gave JLC an immediate rematch after their disputed first fight and promptly won that second fight decisively.
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Solini; As a boxing trainer I would say your question depends on a few variables….
1. Is my son a lefty or a righty? Southpaws have completely different approaches to both offence and defence. It is also important for the southpaw to keep his right foot or leading foot on the outside of his opponents left foot, so as to force the righty into the southpaw left. [This is something that Manny has down pat] A southpaw, basically can not learn anything about strategy from a righty and visa versa.The only things that could be learnt from opposing stances are things like reacting to pressure, benifits of body punching and other factors unrelated to strategy.
In short; If my son was a lefty he would be learning from a Manny video.
2. Does my son posess the reflexes of a cat and or Mayweather levels of natual ability? Mayweather breaks every rule in the book and still gets away with it, due to his extraordinary natural gifts. It is a VERY common misconception that Mayweather is a fundamentally sound boxer. While he most definately is a pure boxer as opposed to a fighter/brawler. He is soo naturally talented as an athlete, that his physical gifts allow him to get away with things that would be a bad idea for ANY other boxer to try. The same was also true of a prime Jones! Now while Floyd is an unbelieveable boxer, but to learn from him without possesing the same natural gifts would be a HUGE mistake! Mosley is a more basic and sound fundamental fighter. He would provide far greater basics for my son to learn from provided he was a righty.
3. EVERYONE is different! Some kids posess the same fast twitch muscles of all 3 fighters you named, therefore those type kids may learn something of value from them.
However some kids posess the slow twitch muscle, in which case all 3 fighters you named would be completely redundant as learning tools. Slow twitch kids would be MUCH better off learning from .. say Alexis Arguello.
P.s…. great question!
Rugby player Terry Newton admitted taking the substance in a statement released by his attorneys on Friday. The United Kingdom Anti-Doping authority announced a two-year ban on Monday after Newton was fired by his club, Wakefield.
“It’s the first time and very significant,” WADA director general David Howman said. “It shows the people who say that HGH cannot be detected that it can. The sports people who said it can’t be detected are fooling themselves.”
HGH is banned in the major North American sports leagues, most notably by baseball since 2005. But amid the lack of an effective test, there has not been testing for the substance.
Travis Tygart, the chief executive of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, said the British finding blasts a hole in that thinking, according to the New York Daily News.
“All of us who have helped develop a test wouldn’t put it in place if it wasn’t forensically sound and reliable,” Tygart said, according to the Daily News. “Particularly in [Newton's] case, it’s proof positive the test works.”
UK Anti-Doping chief executive Andy Parkinson said it was a landmark case.
“It is the world-first analytical positive for HGH, a substance that has previously gone undetected because it leaves the system fairly quickly after administration,” Parkinson said.
Parkinson said this case, like the tests for the banned blood-boosting hormone EPO, sends out a message that scientists are catching up with cheats.
“There has been a feeling that you can take growth hormone with impunity, but this shows this is no longer the case,” Parkinson said. “Now there is a test, so our message to athletes is to think twice about using it.
“In the 1990s, athletes thought they could get away with using EPO and now there is a test for it. And the same is now the case with human growth hormone.”
UK Anti-Doping and its drug control center at King’s College London worked closely with the World Anti-Doping Agency throughout the analysis process.
Howman said the HGH test has been around since the 2004 Athens Olympics, but it hasn’t been available to every laboratory in the world. The testing kits weren’t widely available and the process was fully introduced only at the 2008 Beijing Games.
“There’s been a lot of cynicism that it’s not going to work and couldn’t be detected,” Howman said. “Now that we have a case, I hope it delivers a message to others that are using it that it’s a risk.”
By acting on the liver and other tissues, HGH increases bone growth and plays a key role in muscle and organ growth. That makes it a prohibited substance under WADA’s list of prohibited substances.
hey jaysmooth r u daumb? or dumber than dumb. cant you see the point here? It doesnt really matter who says it but millions of fans have the same idea as james toney, cmmon man get out of your shell and try thinking smart, just avoid being dumb than dumber ok… Now if james is on steroids does that mean he doesnt have the right to give his own remarks… grow man… grow….
“Which on paper appears to be a huge mismatch.” That’s crazy. In 2008 we could not imagine Manny in this fight with Clotty.Manny Pacquiao in a fight against ANY top five welterweight is not a mismatch.
@LuvBoxing
Mayweather Judah did 400,000 buys, that was BEFORE Mayweather fought ODLH.
Pacquiao Marquez II did 400,000 buys, that was BEFORE Pacquiao fought ODLH.
In case you didn’t know, that Marquez rematch set a record for most PPV buys for ANY fight below welterweight, in the history of boxing… ever.
Don’t ever forget that De La Hoya is who really made both the fighters in question, Manny and Floyd. Although Floyd might fool you into thinking that he’s top dog, that the buck stops with him, that all roads lead to Mayweather. But Floyd and Manny are just the cul de sac’s off the ODLH Superhighway my friend.
And we’ll see by the end of May who’s the bigger draw in the sport right now, and Floyd better do 50% more in sales than Manny if he wants anything close to a 50/50 split with Manny this fall.
…ryan
…ryan
Solini,
Pretty easy decision for me. Mayweather is by far the best pure boxer in the world. People can love him or hate him because of his personality, but inside that ring he is pure science and that shows by his record.
Furthermore, as I mentioned before, Mayweather has never been in trouble during a fight and his only knock down was actually a trip. He is fast, efficient, skilled and smart. He is the perfect boxer really.
solini,
Pacquiao. I’d say hey kiddo this is a tough sport, there’s plenty of other things you can do, but if you’re going to do it, you better give it 100%. If not this can happen to you, then I’d show the Pacquiao/Hatton fight.
Question for everyone, if you’re son came to you and said “daddy I want to box” Who would you show them tape of Mayweather, Mosley or Pacquaio if you could only pick one tape to chose from?
@ Big Easy;
pacquiao’s 24/7 might be boring but fight night was extremely exciting from start to finish..while mayweather’s exactly the opposite..
mayweather-mosley is a great fight…it’s going to do well ppv-wise,but only in america…coz they’re both american fighters.in ghana,villages are ready to set up sets to watch their native hero fight…same in the philippines…the rest of the world,the pacquiao-clottey fight will be watched by more people…here in italy,boxing fans are anticipating the fight,my friends in amsterdam and france will go to texas to see the fight,so worldwide,the pacquiao-clottey fight will do better…..to american mayweather fans,don’t let the image of a foul-mouthed,brash gun-wielding clown from a woman beating and criminal family represent you americans to the rest of the world…he may be a great boxer but that’s all…i admire him inside the ring…but not beyond it… a great pity though coz he could have been a great ambassador and spokeman for the sport of boxing….around the world…peace to all.
Floyd Mayweather will either knock Pacquiao out, if the fight goes past the 7th Round, Mayweather will win, Mayweather is the better fighter, he has never been really tested like when he fights Floyd, Floyd is stronger, faster, great hand and feet speed, and a terrific puncher.
@lex_fugitive – I saw the video of Manny giving blood 20 days prior to this fight. I assume he and his camp planned ahead for the 2 days of training they would, “supposedly” lose because of this. =/ I would not be surprised, if he trained the same day or the very next day. Now that he’s faced his “fear”, let’s see if it will affect any of his future negotiations.
While this does not prove he’s on PEDs, it does prove that he and his camp are masters of contradicting themselves, and 24 days was, more than likely, a way to get out of the situation they were in. Some may say “So what? It’s not the same test Floyd was demanding. It was the basic battery of tests for HIV and other diseases, which every fighter has to take.” To that I say…EXACTLY….it’s not RANDOM, it does not occur multiple times, nor does it check for the things OSDT does…
The blood testing EXCUSE for his loss to Morales, has been his saving grace, through all this madness. But, other things, most likely, factored into his feeling of “weakness” during the fight. He was cutting weight…no food, no water, at that time. So,drawing blood during that time, I’d imagine, would exacerbate that, if your not able to eat or drink to regain you strength.
However, he was fighting at JLW–at the time–a weight he was struggling to make anyway. He doesn’t seem to struggle to make weight for his WW fights. So, he, probably, won’t be starving himself, two days before the fight. Not to mention, he was offered 14 days. So, was there really a valid excuse to not make the fight, if all other things were agreed upon? Nope.
But, the topic is “played”, at this point, anyway. This is the last, I have to say about it, until there’s hard evidence on the table in favor of or against. Until then, I will enjoy all the good, upcoming fights…his included.
As far as Pac/Clottey not getting a 24/7. I watched the one for Pac/Cotto. It was pretty good, for someone like myself, who enjoys boxing and is familiar with both fighters. But,a Pac/Clottey 24/7 would not be nearly as entertaining as a Mayweather/Mosely 24/7 would be. Because, there’s a fierce rivalry between PBF and SSM. The climax being the fight itself. That makes for exciting T.V. From that standpoint, I think HBO made a good decision. In terms of better promoting the Pac/Clottey fight, the star of the show (Manny),and ,possibly, increasing PPV sales, it was probably not the best decision. Oh well…that’s business…
Who cares what Toney says? Most active fighters picked Mayweather to win that fight. Toney is just looking for any attention he can get.
The fight would be a very good one, but NOBODY can knock out Floyd Mayweather. You do realize he has never even been knocked down except for a trip on one fight. Mayweather is more skilled and faster than Pac. He also feasts on fighters to come forward.
Mayweather became the face of boxing as soon as Delahoya retired. Pacquiao’s past 24/7 episodes were so boring that i did not finsh watching any of them!!!!
Floyd people love him and hate him, That’s why he have that show and not pac-man
@ Jaysmooth
I rest my case. This has nothing to do with your facts. This is about your own ego. Your statement says it all.
Anyone can argue about facts this and facts that. What the intelligent readers are asking is for both sides to use practical and common sense.
Keep your ego on check. Stop patting yourself on the back every time you think you posted something that holds weight.
@solini
I’ll be back good day.
@roy…
I’m starting to think you have tunnel vision. Sure there’s PPV fights all the time but there’s no megafights that will be carried just by the promotional team, too much burden.
@solini
Pacquiao/larios fight was not an hbo ppv fight,it was top rank who did the ppv,you ca’nt under estimate Arum as shrewd as he is,he can afford to turn his back at hbo.If Pacquiao is american do you think he will stay with Arum,think about it,and people discredit Pacquiao with out considering the contribution of Pacquiao to the sport and glorifying the style of MAyweather as the best,if all boxers will emulate the style of Mayweather there will be no boxing,it’s dead.
@JesusJones
ok, i wrote the wrong thing on a post. i admitted i wrote the wrong thing. I am pretty sure everyone on this post has had a point that they were arguing and they were proven otherwise. there is nothing wrong with that. but when you thinking that everything you say is always the right way and nothing else, you have an issue. I don’t hold grudges for one. I don’t remember old post i dont live in the past and i don’t keep going back to old post. I dont save people post. only a man who has never been right in his life do things like that. only a man who has never been right always try to find a way to make his wrongs right instead of admitting. I don’t have a problem applogizing if i am wrong. LOL.. so lil dude go ahead and post whatever you like.. YOu must be obsessed with me bc u are keeping my post. You fantasize about me and you are trying to hard to prove me wrong. So, get a life dude. I don’t live and die for this site.
@roy…
In a global recession both Mayweather and Pacquaio deserves applauds for pulling off the number of PPV buys they did regardless of who bought it and rebates or not. And I’m not surprised MGM Grand wasn’t sold out compare the tickets for Mosley vs. Mayweather and Pacquaio vs. Clottey and you’ll see why.
People is still talking about the paper view sales of Floyd/Marquez fight.surely it was a hit because Floyd faked an enjury just to move backed the date to the Mexican holiday,and besides tecate gave a rebate if you buy the fight on ppv and the real thing was majority of the buyers were latinos,mgm was not a full house that is a fact,wake up.
@wowzabean…
Why doesn’t it, Pacquaio in the last year fought the #7 guy in Cotto and is not fighting an unranked fighter, While Mayweather embarassed the guy that used to be #2, and is now fighting the guy that’s the #3 ranked P4P and #2 ranked welterweight in the world. Now I’ll be the first to say there’s no way in hell Mosley deserves to be in the P4P rankings just because he beat Margarito…
@ Roy…
Please don’t quote Bob Arum if talking about Mayweather before noting Mayweather left Bob Arum’s Top Rank and Arum’s bitter considering the amount of money Mayweather has earned in fights since his departure. Manny is Top Rank’s posted child, of course he’ll defend the cash cow and make up dumb remarks. Fact is if HBO or Showtime aren’t covering your PPV events you won’t sell and there’s no way he’s taking Pacquaio over to Showtime
jaysmooth says:
February 23, 2010 at 12:09 pm
@Bob
lol.. oh now you are going to attack the character of Shane as well. I see it, Pacquaio does no wrong and if you think he does then it must be you or the person you are talking about.. You Pac Fans are really comical and entertaining to me. Shane would have been the daylights out if that cat. Whats his name again? Clottey right? No, one knew or cared about this dude until Pacquaio choice to fight high and now you guys are trying to hype him up to make it seems like Pacquio is going to do something great. Ok, he is rank #5 on Boxrecs WW list. There are two foreign guys after him that are undefeated. One of them has a belt. So, why didn’t your boy Manny try to win another belt in the welterweight division and possible unify the division since he is so great. Floyd already said it in an interview, that a belt don’t make him and he doesn’t care about a belt. Floyd is Fighting the best WW out there so why didn’t Manny choice one of the foreign fighters who are still undefeated. Why? Because he doesn’t know how to beat the because Floyd hasn’t beaten them yet.
where in my text did i say Floyd had a belt. I said he didn’t care about a belt because it didn’t make him… Pac , Betro, Vyacheslav Senchenko and Dejan Zavec have the belts. I never said that.
@ Jaysmooth
I think you have mistaken me for someone else. Do you remember making a public apology on BN24 the other day, LOL!
Would you like me to re-post what you posted that you said was solid facts and how facts will put to rest…. you know what I’m getting at.
I think you don’t like me cause I said that ” you are the smartest kid in your 1st grade class… Cause your 18 years old”.
@ JesusJones…
Not to tote my own horn but I’m pretty good at making boxing bets and have only lost 3 in the last 5 years, Judah vs. Cotto (bad bet, I used to live in Brownsville lol) Williams vs. Quintana 1 and Kessler vs. Calzaghe. With that said Mayweahter has obviously always been a sure bet. My two biggest winnings came off oh him and DLH, and Hopkins vs. Pavlik. Betting in boxing is probably the easiet sport to bet on, if you know what you’re looking at.
I actually misspoke. Pac v Cotto was expected to do 1.5 million buys and Arum even popped off that it could do 2 million. It did 1.25 million, which is really good, but not near as good as Arum, or anyone else thought it would.
@Solini
Arum was ready to do his own paper view of the fight if hbo choose Mayweather,as Floyd said he is the boss of his self he can simply tell hbo i will fight on march 13 and show the world how to kick Pacquiao’s a???s on paper view sales,but no he was scared and this hbo is power less against Floyd,if they are not Floyd/Pacquiao is a go,just tell floyd if you dont take the fight no more hbo for you.
solini,
Right, right, my mistake I meant they’re title holders, the champion spot is vacant, my bad. It just doesn’t make sense for a #2 P4P to beat a #3 P4P and be number 1, you can’t argue against that.
jaysmooth,
You don’t even state facts yourself man, look at my previous posts.
The fact still remains that when Floyd fights, he outsells Pac, period.
Yes, Cotto was a much bigger name than JMM. People bought the Mayweather/JMM fight because they wanted to see Mayweather. There is no arguing that Mayweather is the most popular draw in boxing. Yes, some of it is love/hate, but he gets the numbers. EVERYONE was predicting 500-600K buys for Mayweather/JMM and called GBP liars for even saying a million. Pac v Cotto did what everyone expected it to do.
Floyd v Mosley will outsell any number that Pac v Mosley ever could have. These are the two best American fighters in the world and people want to see AMERICAN fighters since there are so few good ones out there right now.
We will find out this year if Pac has caught up with Floyd when it comes to PPV power, but as it stands right now, Floyd is by far the PPV king.
@Fighter
“Why does Manny have the P4P title when he’s never fought one”?
Here’s why. Pacquiao decimated Cotto at 145. WW is from 141-147 lbs. which Cotto agreed on the stipulated catchweight.
@ Jaysmooth
Weren’t you the guys that apologized when I caught you lying to another poster trying to prove your point all night long? Then you came back and apologized and that you can admit to your faults and mistakes and continued and said it’s more than what you can say about the Pactards and pacroid nutthuggers. That was an amazing way to apologize.
You don’t like me cause you know I’m right about you and it has nothing to do with Floyd Jr. Damn chuck, it’s the internet. best put your ego on check, LOL!
@wowzabean…
Have you just taken interest in boxing it’s been a f’d up and corrupt sport for years, hell Muhammad Ali benefited from the mob telling Liston to take a dive. Who gets KO’d off a jab are you serious lol… Also wowzabean he is right if you go to Rings site you’ll see there is no Champion in the welterweight division just some title holders, big difference not to mention having belts is useless. Most people don’t know this but for every title you have you have to pay sanctioning fees. So here it is you won the belt but have to pay for the right to wear it and if you go to the 4 main belts (WBO,WBC,WBA,IBF) you’ll see they all have different “#1 contenders” so those days of cleaning up the division and getting all the belts has been over with
@ Solini
Floyd is a betting man, and betting on himself against Pacquiao is the reason the fight is not to be, lol! Even he knows that it might be a bad bet. Think about it. Confidence is everything when wagering.
I’ve lost money on the Pacquaio vs Oscar. Then came Pacquiao vs Cotto, I decided to sit back on it. Mayweather vs Marquez was not even worth the bet in return. Just imagine if an accident happens and Floyd Jr breaks his good hand in the first round, lol! That would have been a disaster in a betting mans pocket book if it went the other way.
@JesusJones
Shut up guy!!!!! you got more excuse then anyone i ever seen. You come on this site and make your lame as comments with no facts. When someone come to you with facts then you try to flip it your way. How about just accept being wrong sometimes i bet you will feel better about yourself. The fact is you have been on here talking about no test has ever had a person test pos for HGH. Now, it has just accept it and quit with excuse. this is the reason this fight isn’t happening because Team Pac is always making excuses why he shouldn’t take the random blood test. YOu are a disgrace to box so go and keep you biased selfish ass comments to yourself. I am a Floyd fan, i have said many time that he could be on steriods or other PEDs but the test would be the only way to reveal it. And the drug he is taking now isnt illegal
Solini,
Well hope that doesn’t happen because it’ll really show how f*cked up the sport of boxing is.
Oh and Jaysmooth, you say Pacquiao is not the champ but he holds the WBO belt, Mosley holds the WBA and Mayweather doesn’t have a belt, don’t get your facts twisted I’m stating them.
Btw fighter, half of what you said was strictly opinion, not “facts.” Mayweather provided a blueprint? Pacquiao and Mayweather don’t even have the same fighting style. Hatton sucks? Why was he undefeated at 140, the weight that Pacquiao beat him? Yea Manny has 2 losses to guys you never heard of when he was fighting in the Philippines not training under Roach. These are facts and so is my prior post. Your just stating your opinions.
People try to discredit Pacquiao in hindsight. Saying he’s ducking and dodging, but the fact of the matter is until 2 years ago nobody even knew he was that good. It wasn’t until AFTER he beat these guys that he got credit. Now that people realize he’s a damn good boxer he’s supposedly not fighting the best. Hindsight is 20/20 gentlemen. Floyd has proved his greatness since he started, he said so himself, but his lack of competition shows.
@ Roy
Having both fights on the same day will be a major disaster for HBO. It’s not or ever going to happen.
So Floyd does the 2nd best thing to feed his ego. he went after the date of the MMA PPV. Floyd Jr’s ego to change the date to compete with MMA’s PPV Buys tells you more about what’s inside his head more than anything. Floyd Jr. no doubt hates MMA. He’s sticking it to them. Floyd does thing only to satisfy himself. And he does it letting you know that he hates you, LOL!
@ Roy…
Let’s use some common sense here, why would HBO who’s airing both PPV events have them the same day? 1 million buys per fight equates to 100 million and you want them to settle for less than that. Not to mention you’re promoting both fights as headliners so how would be the opening act for the other, lmao. I’m not trying to be condescending but seriously do you people think before ya’ll write utter nonsense.
@wowza…
Go back and look what I wrote about the ring ratings and who owns it, in case you don’t feel like scrolling DLH bought it over a year ago and outside of Pacquaio #2-5 are all promoted by Golden Boy, conflict of interests don’t you think, haha
@ JesusJones lmao at the “China man” line… One thing I don’t understand what you said is about his gambling side. Because on Joe Buck live he said he does very well in gambling part of the reason he bets on himself. It was news to Joe Buck, years ago it first came to light when Bernard Hopkins bet I believe a million on himself to bet Trinidad. So if Money Mayweather is betting on himself to win and is 40-0 one would imagine he’s doing pretty good, but then we don’t know how long he’s been “gambling” on himself either
Jaysmooth, Fighter,
I’m not making this stuff up because I’m some obsessive Manny Pacquiao fan. Go to the rankings at Ring Magazine and you’ll see who’s #1. It’s the most respected ratings system and the system most analysts go by. I’m just stating facts, you can argue why he isn’t, but don’t blame me for it. I didn’t rank them. Floyd’s been out of the game for 2 years till Marquez, who isn’t a full welter. And Mosley has lost 3 of his last 7 bouts at WW. Don’t get mad at me, get mad at the facts guys.
MAyweather is showing lack of confidence,he said that if the paperview of his fight exceed that of Pacquiao there is no 50/50 split of the money,so why he approach hbo to have a 24/7show,because he wants an advantage,if he believed that he is the draw he should fight on march 13 the same day with Pacquiao any way he got the booking at mgm on that day,but they were scared that paper view of Pacquiao will beat them,look at his fight with Marquez as small as Marquez is ,he came over the agreed weight just to have an advantage and people said he choose Mosley,no way, mosley said the fight was forced to Floyd because he was cornered and Floyd faints in the corner by attacking Mosley’s personal life whhich is not his business.
The Mosley-Mayweather needs a lot of hyping, but not Pacquiao-Clottey. Pacquiao is already known, in fact, he’s the best-known right now, and the “Road to Dallas” will suffice for him. Whoever’s promoting Mosley-Mayweather is just trying to make sure they make a little cash out of the fight, even if it’s going to be boring. Hence, the Big Hype. The Pacquiao-Clottey fight will still sell, just with Jerry Jones and Top Rank rallyin behind it. I’m not even sure if Mosley-Weather-Weather is worth putting on PPV. Let’s take the Road to Dallas, folks, and wish Shane luck!
@ jaysmooth
Take it to the commission. Let the people do their jobs. Let them work in secret catching up to the cheats. Most important, never let them know, the cheats the science. If urine test is the best, tell them them that blood testing works better. you keep letting secrets out the bag and the cheats only work around it.
By the way, just because your are the loudest person in the room don’t make you the smartest one in it.
This is why everyone is labeling Floyd Jr. In everyone’s eyes, he’s just making an excuses around himself. Floyd don’t do nothing for anyone other than Floyd.
No one is denying Floyd Jr. skills. What’s in question is Floyd Jr. gambling techniques. He’s a known gambler, he does not bet on favorites or who’s the best. He bets on the higher chances of what both sides brings to the table.
The skills and heart in not in question. It’s the odds on his mind that bothers him.
Now take it for what it’s worth.
@22
“ASIA plus AFRICA, which is big compared to AMERICA”? Dude,
CHINA owns AMERICA plus Pacquiao’s boxing fans all over the world including 35 million living in the U.S. Now do the math.
Not! I’m just testing the comment because my previous posts were removed. Just to see if this writer is biased or not.
@ aussieboxfan
Well said. Unfortunately, everyone rides what the writers write. Letting their strings get pulled. Then you ride just a little, kind of takes you back in the days when you used to huddle at the front porch “Shootin the $h1t”. But most of these cat have no game in this game. lol!
I am just saying, he was the first to come forward and ask for the random blood test. You best believe him doing that but fire under the commissioners ass and now they have no other choice no but to act with the postive test now. So, give him credit where it do. Since you want to get technical about it…
LOL! What is this you can thank Floyd business. And you call Pacfans nutthuggers? LOL!
You can thank the scientist who works day in and day.
Man, it’s like me saying a China man will land on the moon one day. And when it happens, you can thank me. LoL!
What does that mean Fighter? I dont think we view P4P in the same way.
I think Manny is the P4P fighter because of what he has achieved over the last 3 or 4 years, i dont think he has to fight who ever is that person at the time. Would Chris Eubank try to take it off Mike Tyson that way?
But all im saying is Mayweather has proved himself at all the different weights by beating all the best boxers and everybody gave him his deserved credit.
But are they still giving him the same credit as a bonofide Welterweight when he hasnt faced and beaten the same level of opposition? Hes avoided nobody throughout his career until he went to Welter.
The fight wont happen on May 1st.
Im sure of that! The Fight Mosley Mayweather will happen, but not May 1st. That for sure. Mayweather wants to be sure to win that fight. He need a lot of time for it. PPV whodoes care?
Pacquiao is fighter of decade. The one and only fighter who has 7 titles in different division. Thats enough. Pacquiao is alltimegreat!
@ Fighter
Most who say I don’t even like Mayweather……
I should stop right there. lol! And you called me the clown.
Like I said, until the day comes, you can keep on dreaming about a fight only you can fantasize about. You need to get out and get it on with real hot babes. Get off the PC and and stop fantazing about it.
here the linK:http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=4938135
Ukansodoff. If your logic is correct, than why does Manny have the p4p title, when he’s never faught one? Come on, try to keep up fellas.
you can remember this day and remember that i said this, This positive test for HGH is going to tie the hands of the boxing commissions now. They may have taken the blood and urine test for a joke but now HGH is being detected and they are going to act on it. When its all said and done, just remember that Floyd made it happen.
JUST IN!!!!!!!! For all of you who said that there was not test to prove that someone is taking HGH, ” So why is Floyd asking for the Random Drug test”.. Thats is not true anymore. On the Front Page of ESPN.com..The UK has suspended a rugby player for using HGH. WADA, president also is quoted as saying, for all those who say that there is not test for HGH, think again. So, now this even solidfies Floyd reasoning for waiting the random Blood test. Manny Can’t hide anymore. Let see how he look in this upcoming fight.
I wonder if all these people that are givin Mayweather so much credit here would comment on what credit they can lay on him based on his achievments at Welterweight?
Weve all seen how good he is but how good is he at this weight? Whose he faced? Who hasnt he faced?
2 me theres 2 Mayweathers, the old Mayweather and the Welterweight Mayweather, hes done nothing at this weight to prove he can do to Welterweights what he was doing to all the top names in the lesserweights
@Bob
lol.. oh now you are going to attack the character of Shane as well. I see it, Pacquaio does no wrong and if you think he does then it must be you or the person you are talking about.. You Pac Fans are really comical and entertaining to me. Shane would have been the daylights out if that cat. Whats his name again? Clottey right? No, one knew or cared about this dude until Pacquaio choice to fight high and now you guys are trying to hype him up to make it seems like Pacquio is going to do something great. Ok, he is rank #5 on Boxrecs WW list. There are two foreign guys after him that are undefeated. One of them has a belt. So, why didn’t your boy Manny try to win another belt in the welterweight division and possible unify the division since he is so great. Floyd already said it in an interview, that a belt don’t make him and he doesn’t care about a belt. Floyd is Fighting the best WW out there so why didn’t Manny choice one of the foreign fighters who are still undefeated. Why? Because he doesn’t know how to beat the because Floyd hasn’t beaten them yet.
@ FIGHTER
If we look at the glass half full on both ends.
It will be a technical schooling for Manny or It will be the beat down of Floyd Jr.s life.
But until then….. keep staring at Floyd Jr.s poster in your room.
pacman does not need hbo 24/7 series because a lot of tickets were sold and lots of household will buy ppv. everytime pac fights need not to be hyped. everybody is excited.
@ onin. It’s very hard to dispute that, as the years go on, and he remains unbeaten, and putting on clinics while doing it. He is the best boxer, his record shows, but he’s not the best fighter. There is a modecum of fight in the makeup of boxers. I only wish he would show that willingness to exchange a little more often. But then, we would never see his brilliant skills either. I just wish he were’nt such an arrogant immature little b—-.
Wow, so many Fanboys in here!
Mayweather is the greatest boxer EVER!
@Solini
When Pacquiao beat DLH by tko, DLH now attempting to ruin Pacquiao Camp and DLH’s mouth full of reasons.. it sucks when you know you won and the fighter is full of reasons! that’s the truth, Pacquiao taked blood test 20 days before Clottey fight, let’s admit that Pacquiao is clean and not ducking Floyd..
@roy
You are not making since. In sports you dont have to beat the best to be the best in every situation. This is one of those situations. Shane has not beaten all the welterweights, he lost to Cotto like you said. So, why isn’t Cotto the #1 WW. Oh bc he lost to Manny, So why isn’t Manny the #1 Welterweight. According to boxing historians, the WBC is the most prestiges belt out of the 4 belts. Who holds that belt Berto.Actually, Pound for Pound doesn’t have anything to do with fighting in multiple divisions. It simply means that a fighter has met and counquered ALL possible challenges in his weight division over a long career. Pound for Pound or head to head, when matched up with the best in your weight class, you win 3 out of 5 times. Thats Floyd to me and many others
@Solini
When Pacquiao beat DLH by tko, DLH now attempting to ruin Pacquiao Camp and DLH’s mouth full of reasons.. it sucks when you know you won and the fighter is full of reasons! that’s the truth, Pacquiao taked blood test 20 days before Clottey fight, let’s admit that Pacquiao is clean and not ducking Floyd..
WHO CARES? These article writers are trying to make 1 hell of a point with all these comparisons between the 2 fights.
These 2 fighters have gone their seperate ways and everybodys had plenty to say on the matter but its like were getting into some competition between the 2 anyway and its pretty lame.
Manny Pacman chosen as the best fighter in the decade by American Boxing Sports,so,Pacman well known in America!how about in Asia,Europe and Africa?,of course he is!,not Floyd.So,no need the HBO blablabla!,only Floyd`s fight need on this HBO,even here in Japan,Floyd`s name they never heard,but Manny`s name?”hai! Pacquiao san des”that`s the Japanese words 10 of Manny ,0 for Floyd,thats all
Oh for those that don’t know DLH bought Ring magainze the same people who make up the P4P ranking, so don’t be surprised if Mayweather ends up being number 1, if he beats Mosley. Think about it DLH owns Ring, and also promotes for Mayweather if Floyd becomes number 1, clearly outsells Pacquaio in PPV buys who you think will have the more negotiating power the second time around? Hence Mayweather saying he would want a bigger piece of the pie. Mayweather and Oscar have clearly out done Team Pacquaio in making Mosley-Mayweather the reward of it will have all the chips in Mayweather’s favor. Freddie Roach knows this, why you think he’s lightened up on the blood tests and came up with that nonsense of winner take all, they’ve corner themselves with no exit plan in place. If Pacquaio doesn’t make the fight say goodbye to him as he’ll run to politics
@roy
if mayweather beat shane, therefore he should beat cotto first before claiming P4P.. am i right?
As for the talk of P4P, there’s nothing really significant behind it as most the fighters in the histort of 1 & 2, haven’t really ever fought one another. Just so happens the top 3 happen to be in the same division something can be said about this. The top of the P4P list has always been a tool for marketing while the bottom is traditionally the up and comers or the previous top guys who lost but still have some validity. Is there honestly any reason Cotto is still number 7, I don’t think even before he lost to Margarito he was higher than 7. And has anyone noticed outside of Pacquaio numbers 2-5 are promoted by Golden Boy
@ 1st Klass…
That was me who pointed out the differences. Mayweather from a boxing stand point doesn’t get the credit he deserves. We still come from a barbarian mentality in wanting to see blood and guts in the ring, where one guy wins but those who didn’t watch the fight would assume he lost. Floyd said it best there’s nothing cool about taking punishment. Fact is those who had “wars” didn’t last long in the sport. IE the late Diego Corrales and Arturo Gatti. Those shots take their toll on a fighter don’t believe me ask Cotto, whether Margarito used loaded gloves or not Cotto has always been easy to hit. People don’t like Mayweather now for the same reason they didn’t like Roy Jones. Jones made his competition look like childs play and Mayweather now does the same. But people don’t mention Mayweather didn’t always fight like this, he would stand there and trade with people but after he ascended into the spotlight and moved to welterweight he respected them more and took less risk and easily out pointed them. I think Mayweather see’s where Jones went wrong and won’t make the same mistake as far as looking for bigger challenges. Jones downfall was moving up in weight all the way to heavyweight where he was solid muscle then draining himself back to light-heavyweight and has struggled ever since. Jones stopped knocking people out when he moved to light heavy weight those guys could take his shots, Floyd realizes these guys can take his and instead of getting caught with a lucky punch he decides to use his skills instead. and his skills are second to none.
Roy. I will watch the Pac- Clottey fight for free the next week, I wont pay to see an overrated fighter fight a journeyman. Manny needs to convincingly beat this fighter, who he, AND the world knows is a lesser opponent. Why would he keep status for beating someone who is already an underdog?
Makes no sense. And what throne does Manny have? The throne of ODLH(over the hill), Cotto(a beaten flatfooted, come forward guy), Hatton(SUCKS). AND he has 3 losses and a draw to less than great fighters. Some throne…more like a toilet.
Bob. Elevate your thinking. Look at Mosley’s stable of accomplishments. Do you think he needs to fight lesser fighters, or unranked fighter, when he’s the #3 WW in the world? Plus, Shane’s not a coward like Manny. He took Berto (as Berto is a very fast, hard hitting, undefeated guy, which we all can agree that Berto is a better fighter than Clottey. Then when unfortunate circumstances ened that fight, he stepped up even more, and faught Mayweather, the #2 WW) Manny chose to fight an unranked guy. A dud. And everybody knows it, that’s why Freddy’s steady backpeddaling on the drug testing issue.
Common sense. How is it chickening out to fight a better fighter?
lex_fugitive = hater
SmoovOne says:
February 23, 2010 at 9:39 am
James Toney is a known steroid user. Manny Pacquiao is suspected of using steroids. Both Toney and Pacquiao are trained by Freddie Roach. Hmnn…..?
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And you slept in the same room as your Mama. Hmnn?
See how idiotic you sound?
pacman can have he’s hbo time when he step’s up an fights mayweather………yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!….dig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!……nuff love
Manny Pacquiao did take a blood test 20 days before Manny Pacuiao and Clottey fight..
people, people,people…… please relax and read….. the only god giving reason pac is even talked about being p4p is due to the fact that he is skyrocketting up the rankings thru ko’s , as a previous person said earlier, the (ko) is remembered more and wanted more than a flawless, technical, perfect fight. nowadays all everyone remembers is how so and so knowcked out so and so.. but think of this mayweather beat de la hoya, and hatton… so did pac, diferrence being that pac knocked them out faster and quicker than mayweather… BUT!!! mayweather won by soundly and profoundly and smartly making his opponent feel stupid…. pac just knocks them out.. so no pac is not better (boxer) than mayweather, he is only a more Exciting (fighter).. meaning that if and when they fight… mayweathers defense and technical skjills WILL NOT ALLOW THE EXCITEMENT PAC IS LOOKING FOR TO WIN…he would have to (box) smartly something he cannot do… PERIOD……
Fighter, Mosley chicken’d out of fighting Clotty. Big Risk no reward. He was afraid that if he lost there’s no Pac or Mayweather bout.
If Pacquiao beat Clotty he will be still the p4p fighter regardless of the outcome of Floyd/Mosley fight,Floyd should beat Mosley then Pacquiao in order to claim the p4p,you cant claim the throne unless you over throw the king and I’m wondering why brits think that Floyd will claim the p4p if he beats Mosley,if you live in a kingdom you cant be a king if you over throw the general,it should be the king,sorry if those who commented are not brits.
Who cares this is the second time you have said this, I’m buying Pacqiao vs Clottey and turning to internet news on Mosley beating Mayweather. Than I’ll watch the KO on youtube.
This is Pacquiao’s 1st fight at TRUE welterweight (DLH not a welterweight), without a catchweight. (Cotto at 145lbs) AM I right? How can Pac be the number 1 welterweight when he hasn’t even fought one yet?
I laugh how people want to be advocates for Mayweather or Pacquiao lol
To anybody beleiving the gabich that James Toney is talking, you must be on something. It MIGHT make sense if Manny chose Mosley (an obvious better fighter than Clottey), but he did’nt. Shane called both of them out. Floyd took the harder fight, period. Manny took the safer one. I admitt that if this Haiti thing did not happen, Floyd may have never took this fight, but he also could have punked out, an faught a lesser guy, like Paulie M, or Yuri, or Clottey.
James Toney is a known steroid user. Manny Pacquiao is suspected of using steroids. Both Toney and Pacquiao are trained by Freddie Roach. Hmnn…..?
To Solini, godd point again.
To mukhang. You have to indentify it when it happens. Call it for what it is, or otherwise nonsense will be taken as truth. You have to be aware of what boxing, as an organization does. They oversensationalize guys who are less than great, to sell tickets, and PPV. They don’t care about legacies, or history, or the sport, it’s their job to keep asses in seats, period. If that means hyping a guy like Hatton to fight Floyd (who I knew was going to crush him), or if it means hyping flatfooted, slow guys who are “taylor made for Manny’s style” (Freddy Roach actually said that), or making Manny out to be ‘fighter of the decade, p4p#1) even though he is worlds away from the greats in this sport. It does’nt matter. They’ll get sheeple to beleive anything. That’s the power of the media, and TV. If they pump enough crap out there, people will beleive it. It’s a proven form of psycological warfare.
@jerry
So, are u telling me that you are wanting everyone to believe what James Toney is saying..Didnt he test positive for steriod, ohyeah he did..Like the old saying goes,” bird of a feather flock together”. Seem like he is sticking with old Freddie and The Crook Corner.
So Josh. Let me make sure I understand you. You’re saying, it does not matter if you have faught soft comp, and duck big fights (Margarito, Mosley as Mosley called p-man out too, Colazzo, Williams, Sergio, Berto), and have losses to less than great fighters, people should want to see you, just because you make exiting fights against lesser opposition? Sounds like you should switch to MMA. Floyd does dance, and avoid more than I care for. But I will undoubtedly pay to see FMJ than Pac. I want to see the skills, and science of the sport. I don’t care to see wild uncalculated flurries against soft opposition. For me, Manny is entertaining, but has simply not entered into the elite ring of fighters, and that’s because he does not have the ability. YES he’s fast. YES, he’s powerful. But he lacks the discipline it takes to be great in this sport, and tose flaws will be exposed. As I have said b4, he drops hislead hand when throwing a hard left. He bends at the waist to throw a jab, which is a bad idea for a short guy to do. His footwork is atrocious. He does not tuck his chin. Take away your adorment for him, and really think; do you think he can do that against Aguy as accurate as Floyd, or as strong as Shane, or as slick as his fellow southpaw Cloazzo? Highly suspect! And to Floyd’s defense, He won every single round against JMM (even though I agree that he could have taken more of a risk, and knocked him out, so I see your point somewhat), and he knocked out Hatton…b4 Manny ever got to him, thus again, giving him the map to do it.
mukhang…
Best available fighter he fought DLH at welterweight something he hadn’t done since 3-24-01 when he fought Arturo Gatti, then to top it off it was at a catchweight of 145, c’mon man be serious. Everyone knows DLH was weight drained for that fight in the 24/7 serious my man was taking I.V.s, smh Pacquaio fans equate to the programming machine known as the media, ya’ll buy into everything ya’ll hear that sounds good.
@ Fighter…
It wasn’t too long ago I think his name is Ross Greenberg was interviewed and they asked him about Mayweather taking credit for 24/7 and he admitted that it was Mayweather who approached him with the idea and actually gets a slice of the series, even the ones he’s not featured in. And if I’m not mistaken I believe they delayed the fight a week because there was another non PPV fight airing and they did the replay then the live fight, there would be no way they wouldn’t air that fight.
@Jaysmooth and Fighter…
For those people who are saying so what if Mayweather beats Mosley, Pacquaio beat Cotto who beat Mosley but they don’t mention that Mosley finished off the man that destroyed Cotto. Fact is styles makes fight, just because you beat a guy who beat a guy doesn’t mean you can beat the guy. LOL, sorry couldn’t help myself. But honestly if Mayweather wins by a small margin I don’t think they’ll give him the P4P ranking but if he puts on another Hatton or Marquez performance there’s no question he DESERVES the number 1 spot. Granted knocking someone out catches the attention of everyone but making your opponent look like he should have never been in there says more in my opinion.
Wowzabean. What makes Manny the best? What fighter/fighters has he beaten, to make him the best? What incredible feats, has he accomplished to make him the alleged #1 WW? Here are a set of facts..not opinion, but facts:
1. ODLH-beaten by Floyd 3yrs earlier, which gave a blueprint to those fighting him in the future, and well past his prime.
2. Hatton-SUCKS!
3. Cotto-a good durable fighter, but A)damaged from Margacheato, B)flatfooted come forward type fighter.
4.JMM gave him a hard time in all fights.
5. Manny has 3 losses and a draw.
6. Mayweather has no losses, no draws.
7. Manny is fighting an unranked fighter.
8. Mayweather is fighting the #3 ranked fighter.
9. Manny last faught the #7 ranked fighter.
10. Men lie, women lie…numbers don’t!
haku313 … over the hump ? they were the best available fighter there is… Mayweather on the other hand keeps on ducking opponents, had the fight of Mosley-Berto not been cancelled, he would have still hid in his fathers’ underpants and duck mosley….
Mayweather will not get past Mosley guaranteed … All his trash talk in the past would back fire against him…
Floyd’s boxing style is second to none BUT that’s not the style that sell PPV these days,… Pac posses the style everybody craves to see in boxing. Pac is the 007 in modern day boxing which is really a PPV blockbuster. Fans are fed-up from floyd as they hunger to see Mr. s-Pac-tacular always has the drive to make your money well-worth it. Floyd steals your money by simply running around the ring and that’s sickening if you think about it.
I just hope Floyd by the help of all the negative comment on him will eventually turn him into a more exciting boxer if he wants to be considered the best.
“ASIA plus AFRICA,which is big compare to AMERICA?”
wow man your brain is sooo small… People in Africa and Asia mostly very POOR. ppv cost – 50 bucks. people in Ghana even doesn’t have a TV . google – Ghana photos, and you understand.
don’t miss what the always controversial James Toney had to say about a potential fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr.!
James Toney: “I grew up with Floyd Mayweather… we all came from the same block in Michigan. Me, the Mayweather family, Buster Mathis, Tony Tucker… The ‘Hall of Fame’ block, you know what I’m sayin? I love Floyd and I’m glad he’s doing what he’s doing… but if you claim to be the best fighter in the world in the world pound-for-pound… fight! Don’t make no excuses.”
“Pacquiao’s going to knock Floyd out… and Floyd knows it. Floyd’s my man and I love him but I’m going to call it like I see it. The thing is this: Do you know what a rabbit does when it gets backed into a corner? It faints. And that’s what Floyd’s doing.”
who is clottey? he is poor fighter. And Pacquaio…. stop running and hiding from Mayweather. Stop using steroids. Go and fight with Floyd
FROM JAMES “LIGHTS OUT” TONEY…
Don’t miss what the always controversial James Toney had to say about a potential fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr.!
James Toney: “I grew up with Floyd Mayweather… we all came from the same block in Michigan. Me, the Mayweather family, Buster Mathis, Tony Tucker… The ‘Hall of Fame’ block, you know what I’m sayin? I love Floyd and I’m glad he’s doing what he’s doing… but if you claim to be the best fighter in the world in the world pound-for-pound… fight! Don’t make no excuses.”
“Pacquiao’s going to knock Floyd out… and Floyd knows it. Floyd’s my man and I love him but I’m going to call it like I see it. The thing is this: Do you know what a rabbit does when it gets backed into a corner? It faints. And that’s what Floyd’s doing.”
lol
Solini
I second your point on the Floyd being the new P4P champion if he beats Shane. There should be no if ands or buts about it. P4P champion is not about you beating the P4P champion. Its about you fighting the better quality fighters. Beating #3 and #3 in the Same year. Bc #1 wouldn’t fight you and he goes and fights #7 and a unranked P4P fighter. I can’t wait until all you haters eat your words and swollow hard. Because your boi Manny is not what he thinks he is.
Solini. Although, I partially disagree with what you said aboutMW coming up with the 24/7 idea (which should silence the dummies who think he’s broke), and being favored by HBO execs. If you look back at his destruction of Hatton I beleive it was, but I could be wrong, When he nipped at Larry merchant, and told him to stick to commentating, and he’ll stick to boxing, they punished him by not showing the free fight on HBO the next week.
But I agree with you on the most important point you made. One would think that the guy who beat lower ranked guys would not be diefied as much as Manny has. But you put it plain, but briliantly. If I might add a quote from Jay-Z’s last album “men lie, women lie, numbers don’t”
@wowzabean
Manny is not the #1 WW. He is the P4P champion but not the WW champ. So, if Floyd beats Shane then he will be the #1 Welterweight.
@wowzabean
@luvboxing
I love how you guys always do this. YOu seem to find a way out of a snake hole where there is only on way in and one way out. This discussion was suppose to be about if one would out sell the other. I see once you get in a situation where you couldn’t win now you want to say Mosley-Mayweather must destroy Clottey-Pac. Its a simple yes and no. And the answer is yes, any true boxing fan can see that it will and i applaude those Pac fans who have said that it would as well.
@Simon
LOL.. nice one. I like how you just twisted that and made it believable, just like the other garbage you and the pac followers like you. You are somewhat right with the numbers you are throwing out there in terms of Population. But lets be honest, and states some other facts as well. Africa is one of the poorest continents in the World and the African countries are some of the poorest in the world as well. Also, the Phillipinese is one of the poorest countries in Asia. Alot of people in these Phillipines and in Africa don’thave television let alone Cable television. These people will not pay $50 to watch a fight when there families are starving. So, that was not a great way to try to make you point. It actually made you look like an idiot.
Is this shocking to people that the guy who partially came up with the idea of 24/7 would be featured in it once again? This is about to be is 4th 24/7 (DLH, Hatton, Marquez and now Mosley) HBO by know means are dumb Pacquaio might have a lot of fans but Floyd is far more entertaining to watch. And having a unknown guy like Clottey on a 24/7 series is pointless generally speaking no one knows him. Floyd will also benefit from the people who want to see what Mosley looks like and if he has the goods to beat Floyd, win-win Mayweather. With HBO’s decision to not do a 24/7 on Pacquaio and provided Floyd and Manny win, you can see Mayweather having the advatage once again. My prediction is if Floyd beats Mosley convincingly he’ll get the P4P title as he’s taken down the #2, and #3 P4P in less than a year while Manny beat the #7 and Clottey a guy who’s not even on the list.
The reason MMA is gaining popularity is because the best fighters are facing each other on a stacked card on a monthly basis. Floyd haters saying that his style of fighting is boring do not understand what boxing is all about. Floyds fight with marquez was a master class of boxing. Not boring to me at all. The best fighting the best without an alphabet of paper titles. A world champ in a division should be the best in the world at that weight but in boxing this is not the case. Wowzabean and sweetscience its boxing politics that are killing the sport(not technically brilliant boxers like floyd) I Just got back from sydney and the UFC put on a brilliant show with an awesome card. I just wish boxing powerbrokers take a leaf out of UFC’s book.
Manny needs a 24/7 for this fight, as the whole promotion stinks. There are a couple of types of boxingfans. There’s those of us who appreciate the sport, and look at all the subtle, and not so subtle details of this art of war. Then there are the casual novices, who watch for the entertainment, the blood and guts battle (even if both guys are equally unskilled, but just beat the hell out of eachother). Like Jay said, they just want a knockout, or some sensational event, a guy fly throught the ropes, an ear get bit, the corners get into an all out brawl in the ring, whatever.
Many of Manny’s fans are the second type of fan. Therefore, most of them do not know journeyman (Clottey), they only know those boxers in the spotlight. So none will really know Clottey, which brings us back to him really needing a 24/7. Let’s not forget those of his fans who are rational fans, the first type I mentioned. They will need to be convinced of the worth of this garbage that’s happening in Cowboys stadium.
It needs heavy promotion.
Mayweather/mosley on the other hand, they don’t need a 24/7, as they’re both VERY well known, but they’re doing one anyway, which means another 1-2 million PPV for Shane AND Floyd. Advantage Floyd or Shane. Disadvantage..Manny. Guess you should have butched up and just gave a wittle vial of blood huh?
Why is pacman pound for pound number 1 when the pretty boy is undefeated
it should be mayweather looking down the list at everyone
best fighter of his generation
If there was a pac vs clottey it would had announced two months ago so why is this news rite now?
@Cisco
Your right it is entertaining. Floyd is entertaining if you are a true boxing fan. Some of you people have the Tyson syndrome. I call the Tyson syndrome bc all you want to see is a dude get KO’d in the first minute of a fight. Tyson isn’t going to step in the ring again, so there not going to be a 1 min KO. Manny is not going to knock Clottey out in 1 minute. He may not even knock him out. What are u going to say if Manny has to resort to boxing 12 rounds with this dude and he can’t. What are u going to say if clottey punish Manny. So, just stop thinking that boxing is all about going toe to toe. My bad you can’t see it no other way bc all Manny has done was fight flat footed slow fighter with the exception of JMM. I just don’t understand it.
@Mr.Cool
lol..most of the tickets are sold. But the gates are werer they make the money. Its the PPV’s. So, they could sell all 30,000 seats but do horrible on PPVs. Thats what this discussion is about anyways/
There are far more africans and philipions than there are americans as has been said, but none of them have nay money to purchace the PPV, are you stuipid pac lovers to blinded to have common sence no to mention the fact that he is juicing and a fight against Clottey is pointless as we all know what will happen. PAC IS DUCKING THE TOP FIGHTERS
Pacquio deserves a HBO 24/7 but lets face it, he doesnt really need it he got such a huge fan base! n Mayweather is doin his best to hype this fight as much as possible so he gets more pay per views which will mean he gets a bigger cut if he ever does fight pacquio!
I 2nd Ryann Dunn’s statement.
I twill say a lot more about the American market vs the international one. If it breaks even then hands down, it goes to the foreign fighters.
The reason MMA is gaining popularity is because the best fighters are facing each other on a stacked card on a monthly basis. Floyd haters saying that his style of fighting is boring do not understand what boxing is all about. Floyds fight with marquez was a master class of boxing. Not boring to me at all. The best fighting the best without an alphabet of paper titles. A world champ in a division should be the best in the world at that weight but in boxing this is not the case. Wowzabean and sweetscience its boxing politics that are killing the sport(not technically brilliant boxers like floyd) I Just got back from sydney and the UFC put on a brilliant show with an awesome card. I just wish boxing powerbrokers take a leaf out of UFC’s book.
Pac Man is a great fighter. I always support Pac when he is pitted against other fighters. Floyd is a great boxer who beats both fellow boxers and fighters alike. I am passionate about a lot more other fighters, but Floyd from years ago has mesmeriesd me because what he does is almost inborn and like what some analyst has said before,’that level of skill is not taught anywhere’. Who is surprised that Floyd draws the most pay per views? is it just doubt or disbelief? The pressure for these two to meet in that squared ring after the respective fights will be immense and some compromise will have to be reached. People will not accept lame excuses.
Although I believe Floyd will win this fight, I still don’t think he should get a whole lot of credit when he does win. Cotto beat Mosley (granted it wasnt pretty) but didn’t get no where near as much credit compared to what many of us Floyd fans are going to give him. He needs to fight Manny.
Just one question?
Which would be bigger?
1. Mayweather vs Mosley or
2. Pacquiao vs Mosley
Everybody knows the obvious… enough said.
u yanks think that the viewers are only in the usa, 92million phillopinos, half these would have american blood in them,(ww2) there your brothers you hate them because of the man, until we get the big fight , you have to get the fight out the states your judges will always give it to money cheats cheats
Well I mean to cement his legacy Floyd still has to face Pacquiao. Floyd is #2 P4P, Shane is #3. For WW standings it’s the other way around. Floyd can’t beat a #3 and be #1. Or in the case of WW rankings beat #2 and be #1. To be the best you have to fight the best man, and Manny right now is the best.
In my view, what happens on May 1 defines not only Floyd’s career, but caps boxing’s best of the moment. A win against Shane will remove doubt in the minds of those who really care to positively look at the happenings in the sport. A win against Shane, without doubt puts Floyd in the right position as the best of our times. Floyd will do himself a lot of good if he demonstrates the great fighter he is in this fight. I know some will start talking of how old Shane is, that he is over his time blah blah blah as usual. Out of all competitive sport, we are yet to uncover the ugly ghost that most believe,haunts boxing because of luck of serious regulation and yet, this is the game of sweat and blood and can threaten life itself. I know after May 1, real men will line up to face the face of boxing.
LuvBoxing,
I think what people, such as Ryan Dunn, are trying to say is that it has to destroy Pacquiao/Clottey. I mean there’s no excuse for it not to. Doing only 100k more buys or so won’t put Floyd on top, especially when you’re dealing w/the arguably two biggest American fighters in terms of household names.
Pac/Marquez is not comparable to Mayweather/Marquez man. Pacquiao wasn’t well known in America till well after the ODLH fight c’mon. If so why did Pacquiao/Cotto beat Mayweather/Marquez by 200k+ buys? Is Cotto that much more famous then Marquez? That’s highly arguable.
mayweather/mosley really needs the hbo 24/7 to hype the very boring style of floyd
ASIA plus AFRICA,which is big compare to AMERICA?so,Pacman/Clottey fight is no need of advertizing,Yeah!a trillions of population,Floyd is known only in America,right?but in Asia,ofcourse”Pacman”,in Europe,maybe Pacman too,how about Clottey in Africa?,ofcourse yes!but Floyd is not!.So Floyd fans,have a nice day!hahahahaha
Pac Man lovers are funny. Pac Man has never beaten Floyd in any PPV with common opponents. Simple fact, no disputing it.
Floyd did a million PPV’s against JMM, when Pac couldn’t sell 400,000 with him in their rubber match.
I like both fighters a lot. I love what Pac Man does and I love what Floyd does, however it is obvious that people have to pit them against each other non stop. Let me answer everything for you, BOB ARUM is the problem. Bob Arum is the worst thing in boxing and it is just sad that Pac Man is represented by that idiot. The sooner Arum is out of boxing the better.
Floyd v Shane would have destroyed Pac/Clottey with or without 24/7.
no matter what happend,Pacman stands still as “sportman of the new era”!not Floyd!,not Floyd Sr.!,not dela hoya!they are all nothing!!,but “Pacman still the man of of the boxing world”"World knows about Ali before,and world knows about Manny now,that`s all folks!!You cant buy Manny,but you can buy Floyd,”the face of money”
In other words; two weekends wowza won’t have to watch Entourage reruns
@Simon
I agree with you, though i think you meant BILLION and not TRILLION with the world population.
I think people are going to be surprised if not shocked at how close the domestic PPV numbers are between these two fights. If they are even remotely close, Mayweather will have a lot of explaining to do, and he won’t have a leg to stand on. (Mayweather/Mosely is a superfight, Pacquiao/Clottey is a tune-up fight, a consolation bout).
And most PPV buys are measured domestically, meaning in the USA, as that is where both fights are going down, and where the promoters and host networks are run out of. Hatton, for instance, has tons of UK buys, but they aren’t the main calculations.
…ryan
mayweather crp again, manny will always get my money because his a fighter not a pretender
mayweather haters/ pac asian nughuggers make me laugh. get off floyd nuts and go concentrate on the garbage unknown clottey vs pac fight which is barely making pay per view event. may i say? boringggggggggggg!!!!!! floyd is the best of our time 40-0. keep hating cause hes young and rich and UNDEFEATED! pacquio has steroid drug test to worry about right now,, shane is a beast too and i hope floyd can take a win and solidify his status as legendary. floyd fight is gona be way too big for a pacquiao who is ducking not only floyd but also shane.. shane came to wild card gym to challenge manny twice, and even after accepting all the terms, roach turned it down saying “ur too much of a good fighter” hahaha.
Big deal! Who needs HBO-Not Pac Vs Clottey. Asia and Africa contitute more than 74% of the world population of 6,800,000,000 (6.8 trillion) or 5 trillion(74%)and with this number Pac/Clottey certainly donot need an american audience, to say the least. This fight will sell by its own merit, i.e. quality of the fighters, entertaining, exciting and a long and a hard fight. By all indications, Asia and Africa will get their money’s worth.
I watched 24/7 because of Pacquiao. So what if HBO is not making a 24/7 series for the Pacquiao-Clottey fight? I will still watch Pac’s fight regardless. For the the Mayweather-Mosley fight I’ll probably watch it in youtube or something if I find out later that Mayweather got KOd or something lol. I won’t pay to watch it though in PPV, not when there’s a high probability that it will be another dance show.
don’t get me wrong, mosley is indeed a very good fighter but the problem here is he’s fighting mayweather who prefers to hit and not get hit so, the most possibility is you’re watching a very boring fight..again, it’s probably good if you’re watching it for free but to pay and watch? i would rather wait until it’s available in youtube..
Also, I think that personally, I’d rather get to know more about Mosley than I would Clottey anyway. And I don’t feel that HBO has the budget to spend on two 24/7′s within two months of one another, not to mention the overlap in production and post-production.
…ryan
The pac vs cottley fight was to soon to make a 24/7. Plus cottley aint that popular for it.
Pacquiao and Mayweather, in past 24/7 series, are by FAR the most entertaining to watch. I speak as a man who’s watched every single episode of every single 24/7. For those who think Manny doesn’t have a personality, I think you have to factor in both teams’ entourages. The side drama with Koncz and Ariza was fun, regardless of what you guys say, Roach is an inspirational character, for better or for worse. It’s always fun seeing celebs drop by Wild Card, and who doesn’t love a one-eyed gym assistant who’d be homeless were it not for Freddie’s good will?
Mayweather has his uncle and father when he’s not entertaining us with outlandish claims and MTV Cribz style tours of his lavish living. And only in Vegas can you cut a scene with Floyd’s Rolls Royce at the scene of a shooting with a scene of Floyd and his beautiful little girl rollerskating at a roller rink.
Both those guys are entertaining. There’s a reason the only fight people really want to see right now is May/Pac. Don’t act like by enjoying one you have to hate the other.
…ryan
Makes sense to keep it for the bigger fight.
apart from the fact that both money/mosley are americans, they are fighting in their own backyard therefore it is highly expected that they will get more ppv buys than pacman/clottey..but if the buying public specifically the casual fans wants entertainment and equal value of what they’ve paid then go for pacman/clottey..
gard, I have no idea what you were trying to say there buddy.
Vince,
LOL it was. I agree with you to an extent, Mayweather/ODLH would have been big anyway, but ODLH along w/GBP marketed the hell out of it. I think the series helped. Maybe 10-15% increase in buys, just a guess based on how many people buy HBO.
Well get ready for deja vu, because the Mayweather/Mosley 24/7 is going to be good hype and kick @ss, and the fight’s going to be lackluster, mark my words
.
I agree it helped Oscar / Floyd, but that fight was gonna be a sales monster any way, so…
Unfortunately, the episode of Entourage you watched proably was more entertaining than the fight!
When the Pac/Clotty beat the May/Mosley…in PPV buys…somebody
is going to go nuts of envy…Remember the later fight markets
in the U.S, while the former can sell in U.S and outside.
When Floyds beats Mannys in buys, then what! it doesn’t have the
HBO backing.
it may be true that the fundamental of boxing is to hit and not getting hit but it can be applicable only if you’re watching the fight for free..it doesn’t matter if the viewers got knocked out first before the fight ended because they haven’t dish anything out from their hard earned money…i used to pay ppv watching mayweather fight before but my expectation of being repaid of what i have paid was very disappointing..well, i’m not blaming anyone but myself..i was just enticed of all the hyped believing that the fight would present a different level from the previous ones but i was wrong..all the same show, boring..i should have learned the lesson..i am now surely..
Is there really any hard line data that proves a 24/7 series actually contributes to buys?
Logically you would think it does but at the end of the day does it really motivate a person who’s a casual or non boxing fan to spend $50.00?
Personally, I don’t see it but if HBO keeps producing them I guess I’m wrong.
Have you ever watch ringside?
Have you ever seen the blood splatter from a lefthook that close? Have you ever felt the canvas and ring shudder when a boxers face kisses the canvas?
Added to that have you ever heard the roar of 50,000 fans in a football stadium? Toe to toe… warrior against warrior… ready to do battle…let ready to rue!!!!
Man o man! I’m soooo frigging excited, 20 days more till I’m sitting 2 rows from ringside! Best show in town! Can’t wait…..
The reason why there’s no 24/7 for Pacquiao-Clottey? After the PacMan won his seventh title…he doesn’t need any more hype. But Mayweather-Mosley need more hype to get fans to buy tickets and PPV.
And don’t even for a moment think that PacMan underestimates Clottey. In Pac’s own words – “Mapanganib si Clottey!” “Clottey is dangerous!”
wonder ,it they both can keep it interesting ,they both brag about being the best and fighting the best,both claim each other avoided him for years,and for floyd sake he better not cry again about not getting respect ,seen that 15 minute sad interview manny vs him, talking about how come this and how come that ,over and over again.unmanly.floyd,you get what you dish out .counting your million sand flashing now require you a couple of bodyguards.
i laso have to blame these promoters not to make the fight that people wanted. it’s not only manny/floyd but in the past decade there are a lot of big fights that supposed to happen but it didn’t. this thing drove away maybe 40% casual fans. well, as a fan, just keep wishing. hahahaha
that’s true!! more than 2.4 million buys but i guarantee you that more than 50% of those who bought were disappointed. unfortunately i was one of 50%+.
sweetsci,
Not only that, it’s not hardcore fans that will keep the sport alive. It’s the casuals that will watch 1 MAYBE 2 fights a year that will bring boxing back. The boxing pugilists like it or not, Pacquiao brought a large amount of the casual fans. Getting over 1.25 million PPVs during a recession vs. a guy Cotto, all be it popular in New York and Puerto Rico, but who casual fans really didn’t know. Pacquiao brought more people just with his publicity.
Floyd has too during the ODLH fight, but then lost some pizazz after his less than stellar performance. Floyd is a great fighter, one of the best active fighters right now. But I can gauruntee you if you show the avg. person a Floyd fight or a Manny fight, 90% plus would say Manny’s fights are better. Assuming a random pool of course. So if you proud boxing fans want to see the sport die, keep bashing the guy that’s bringing it back, Manny Pacquiao.
i’m not making any excuses why pac/clottey fight is not on HBO 24/7. people understand it. the fight is already in 3 weeks. it’s impossible for HBO to film this and distribute. if you guys think that this fight don’t have 24/7 because it’s a weak fight, then you must be dreaming. or you’re a fan of the other guy.
wowz….floyd’s fans keep syaing the fundamentals of boxing(the ideal way).casual and die hard boxing fans prefer the reality of boxing. they can argue about MMA but that’s the reality. boxing fans wants to see knock outs as soon as possible. that’s what i like to see too.
@ hlf man hlf amazingwoman;
your mouth is just as fitting as to your name..the way you talk seems like you’re half conscious and half way out of this world..i think you need a good righthook to bring yourself into a full consciousness..
they aint doing one for pac/clottey cause only pactards wanna see mannys latest punching bag!! 99.9 percent of casual boxing fans dont know who clottey is..pac clottey is a farce , every one knows it..put any spin you want on it..
Ya Mr. Sweetsci, we’ve both said this before, you’ll just start a flame war again hahaha. Some people don’t understand the basic business model of paying to be entertained.
Why is it bad for Pacquiao fans if they show a one episode special? I doubt anyone cares, the fight was too short notice to do any show. His fans will pay to see the fight period, fans don’t care if he does better than Mayweather/Mosley, they just want to see a good fight.
boxinglesson……do you know the reason why boxing is in decline? because of this fundamental: “hit and don’t get hit”. do you why UFC/MMA is catching up? because of get hit and hit back, as much as possible knock you opponent out. whether you admit it or not manny is a lot more exciting than floyd.
I love Pacman fights and also Mosley, but Mayweather? I just love to see him loose!!!
The last time I seen a fight where people were not talking about the challenger, the so called champ got his ass whooped. I have a feeling that the Manny and Clottey fight will not go as easy as Roach thinks. It should be a great fight. I’m watching it. As far as Floyd and Shane? The real BOXING fans know. This is a match up for the ages. Two Legends getting it on. Drug testing, no catchweight madness, P4P type stuff. This is what Boxing is all about. All you racist Manny fans need to quite hating on everyone accept Manny. He is a good fighter but his fans have no class. I love Boxing not ONE Boxer….
You would think without HBO camera’s following Manny around he could avoid getting videotaped doing the one thing, the one reason, he gave for not fighting Mayweather. But no, Manny is on videotape giving blood just 20 days before his fight with Clottey. Yet a superstition kept him from agreeing to this to fight Mayweather. When Mayweather is the opponent Manny developed a superstition about giving blood anywhere inside of 24 days of the fight. Now he’s on tape doing exactly that with Clottey!! PACDUCK STRIKES AGAIN!!
Floyd spends more money to HBO just to promoe his fight,but Pacman is no need to do this coz,Who is the Boxer of the decade?,ofcourse Pacman,King of P4P:?,ofcourse Pacman!,Is he need this HBO?,I think you know the answer!,”floyd is chicken”,Pacman is the eagle”,which of the two flying high?,oh com`on Floyd`s fans,help to promote your floyd ok,leave Pacman where he goes,you cant bet him,you cant,Pacman is the man of the rising Sun,and Floyd is the moon that covered by clouds”blacknight”hahhahahahahaa
Well Clottey doesn’t have a huge fanbase. usually the 24/7 show only covers big stars with big fanbases…exmple, Delahoya,Hatton,Mayweather,Cotto,Mosley,Pacquiao..but Clottey, while he’s a great contender and is top 5 in welter div, he’s not a star because he doesn’t have a big fanbase in the u.s.
yeah floyd and shane need 24/7 because floyd might have a recurring rib cage injury if their fight didn’t sell!c’mon floyd’s ego is bigger than mgm and dallas stadium combined..and everytime he talks he annoys even his mother!if floyd can fight the way he talk even tyson might duck him!yeah i’m gonna watch the fight at youtube!…lol
I actually never watched the 24/7 series. I hear it is good. But when you think of it, HBO should concentrate on the PBF vs Mosely fight. It will be an interesting fight becuase PBf might come up on the losing end on this one. A first for everything right? I’l be watchng Manny fight live at ringside. Can you believe I got a few at $1000 each. I tried to get a few more a cuople days later and it was all gone.
absolutely pacman vs whoever..very exciting and worth every cents..
Mayweather is 1/2 the boxer Ali was imo. There are some similarities between the two. E.g. Mayweather, like Ali, has great defensive skills and reflexes, a good chin, and fast handspeed. Isn’t a big power puncher, but can do damage with the volume of punches (which with Mayweather has decreased significantly ever since hurting his hand and the increasing toll it has taken on them).
But beyond that, Ali had far more in his locker. Ability to throw complex combinations with speed, ability to fight both defensively and on the offense, significantly better movement and footwork, and better ring generalship.
But I’d say the biggest attribute Ali had, one that made him the greatest of all time for me, is heart, that ability to dig deep and start landing the bombs that win a fight, something we’ve not seen from Mayweather, even in tough fights (against not too impressive opponents I might add). Ali was the type of boxer who when running on empty, with nothing left in him, could just bring out the combinations. Thrilla in Manilla, Rumble in the Jungle, Ali was old and tired in both fights, having taken a beating for many rounds, but then he somehow digs deep and we see flurrys of combinations, bomb after bomb, all landing with great accuracy and doing real damage to the opponent. Mayweather has never shown, and probably will never, show that very rare ability.
So yeah, Mayweather and his fans are living a dream if they think they can compare the guy to Ali in terms of overall ability and calibre.
It would be so funny if moseley /floyd will not sell given all the tools to hype up their bout. We will soon find out if floyd is really a cash cow or a cow drop. By the way, is floyd doing the chicken dance in this picture?… or is he just practicing to perfect his famous chicken ring style.
Hmmm. Pacquiao is pretty interesting to watch in 24/7 because of all the stuff going on around him in the Philippines, but I agree – who wants to watch a 24/7 with Clottey in it, or cares about him? Good fighter and boxer, but not someone who has ever taken PR by storm.
Maywaether on the other hand, you’d watch a 24/7 just with him in it. Crazy family who are entertaining because some of them are clearly on crack, whilst Mayweather’s flash lifestyle (or what we see of it) is amusing.
I’ll also look forward to seeing how Mosley trains under the great trainer Naseem Richardson, who many people haven’t seen much of despite having two great boxers in Mosley and Hopkins under him recently. Will also be interesting to see what shape Mosley is in, and not only that, but it’ll be interesting to see what state his personal life is in, what with his recent divorce that has supposedly affected his finances severely (probably just rumours that, but it does happen).
Looking forward to Mosley Mayweather 24/7 greatly.
Doc holiday are you serious. You are compairing ALI to Floyd. Ali had 61 fights and some went 15 rounds. May-cherrypicking-weather has 40 fights and is talking about retiring. Ali not only talked trash but he backed it up by taking on top tier opponents throughout his career. That’s blasphemy. I guess it’s contagious because 2 weeks ago Floyd was compairing his crusade to clean up boxing with MLK and X.
Rat-a-too my boy your back what did I tell you it’s not if i will make more
@ rat-a-too
You are definitely right. HBO has just taken away the need for Pac more PPV hits for leverage against Flo if ever they will duel. Flo/Mos needs 24/7, CERTIFIED Xylocaine and steroid users.
Tweezy316 @ 35,000 so far,and these are high paying seats.up to 900.00 how many ppv w/out a hbo lets see ,as floyd and mosley has to 50% more with the better match up and hbo. lets see the out come,
@ Cisco
Actually, Rocky DID cherry-pick in the 3rd movie. Well, his coach did. The difference is that he stepped up to the real challenge eventually. Let’s hope PBF also steps up to the true challenge in Manny.
mayweather get a 24/7 cuz his the one who made it up for HBO
I’ll go to a club and pay 10 to 20 dollars to watch the Mosley vs Floyd fight. Then I can at least dance and drink afterwards. Every fight Shane is in is exciting but I can’t say the same about Floyd. I remember watching the Floyd vs. Oscar fight feeling sorry for the guy that paid $54.95 plus tax. I thought it was a joke when it finally ended. All the rounds blurred into each other with no drama until 10 seconds left in the fight. Mayweather ate a nice combination from Oscar and that was it. And don’t remind me about the Marquez debacle.
24/7 this fight isn’t worth 12/3.5
Hey Boxinglesson.
That is why UFC is more popular, contenders fight. Imagine Rocky Balboa doing a Floyd duck all the time… there will be no Rocky sequel. At the end of the day, boxing is entertainment, just like all other spectator sport.
Pac-Clottey should not even be on HBO ppv is just a joke
I’m not buying it. F**k Freddie Roach , he knows his boy is juicing. Manny SHOULD TAKE THE TEST or shut up.
now the odds are stack in floyd and mosley corner ,they have to do way better money wise than pac and cottey fight ,if they cant do 50% more revenue with the stronger match up
they have no excuse.exposed…..and shamed.ha,j.k. more power to them.
For you so called Boxing fan…If you love the sport so much and really want it to stay on top then it might be wise to lay off the bashing of every fighter. Opinions are cool but how is a causal fan supposed to take boxing seriously when a guy is 40-0, unmatched skill and a modern day Ali when it comes to hyping his fights? And in Pac’s defence…why not respect the little guys accomplishments? Regardless of who he’s fought he still deserves some credit! I’m guilty of it to but I want to see Boxing stay on top but I don’t see it happening if every fight so called sucks, on PED’s, is a crackhead, boring, 1 dimentional or whatever. AT the end of the day winning is the main goal!
money and mosley needs 24/7 to get interest from the public whereas pac vs clottey doesn’t..tickets are selling like hotcakes..
@ Thomas-Yorkboxer;
if you’re watching money then you’re wasting your money..you’re paying your seat for a good night sleep..
Mayweather should just play dodgeball.
Even without HBO 24/7 I’ll watch pac/clottey bout. Its more interesting and full of action.
Manny is really “juiced”. He will never take random blood tests.
Floyd kills a clean the midget. Roach should just focus on Clottey.
Floyd is bigger, faster, and better than the “juiced” midget.
duc1098::::: what is your definition of boxing?? I’ve sat here and read for the last few weeks all these ridiculous posts about Floyds style of fighting being called “running” and any other ignorant adjective you so called boxing fans come up with…”NEWS FLASH!!!” THE DEFINITION OF BOXING IS THE ART OF HITTING AND NOT BEING HIT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE…THE MAN HAS COME SOMEWHAT CLOSE TO PERFECTING THAT ART, OR SHOULD I SAY, WHAT THE SPORT IS “REALLY” ABOUT….IF YOU WANT TO SEE BLOOD,GUTS, AND FISTS FLYING, MAYBE MMA (UFC,WEC, STRIKEFORCE) IS MORE YOUR SPORT BECAUSE THATS NOT WHAT BOXING IS ABOUT
I can watch Pac’s fight over and over again. With Mayweather? Just tell me when it’s over….
doesnt matter to me, as Iam not buying this fight,just buying pac fight.
Money Mayweather, all the rest are bums. The only thing in common Shane Mosley has with the word legend is his age.
Just keeping it all the way reall Mayweather-Mosely is a much bigger fight that Pac vs. Clottey .. If you think otherwise your your most likely not a true lover of the sport of boxing… with is sad… they the level of competition is so much higher.. Not to mentition the fact that you have two hall of famers in the Ring That both have attractive personalities and have a strong following… and have beaten greats.. Clotty just doesnt have the heart… drawing power.. or skill for this fight to compete
HBO are smart, they also trying to clean the sport, no roids period!
I get goosebumps on any Pacman fight, I get hemorrhoid when I see Floyd’s fight!
Pac-Clottey is a walkover for Pacquiao. Mayweather-Mosley is a fight of 2 legends, best of there era’s and very competitive. Mayweather-Mosley is a great fight, Pac-Clottey isn’t.
If boxing fans enjoyed and appreciated the Mayweather-Marquez fight, then they should enjoy and appreciate the Mayweather-Mosley fight guaranteed. Same crap.
clottey has more chance of beating pacman than mosley does of mayweather
For all of you who try to compare Mayweather/Hatton to Pacquiao/Hatton. Heres what freddie roach had to say.
“Hatton is not the same fighter after his loss to Floyd, he took something out of him which is why he was on Shaky legs against Lazcano” – Freddie Roach
So, lets stop the argument of “well Pacquiao knocked Hatton out faster than Floyd”. Because anyone who follows boxing, knows that Pacman only fights guys that are over the hump. And YES cotto is over the hump. And he will lose his next fight as well. And Yes oscar was over the hump as well.
Please….Pac don’t need another 24/7. Manny Pacquiao is already over-exposed.
I personally want to see both fights, and I would love to see the winners face each other. Clottey is tough, so I hope that the pac-fans aren’t underestimating him. This is no mis-match.
Thomas, go and watch Floyd run around then. Stop calling yourself true boxing fan though cause you are far from it buddy.
This is a better fight and better match up. I was bored to death watching Pac vs Cotto 24/7. Both guys bring nothing to the table , Pac is boring as hell on 24/7 and so would be Clottey as both guys are Top Ran property and neither will talk up the fight.
Pac vs Clottey was a desperation move by Top Rank and it shows. The media is not going crazy or craving this as they would have had Floyd been the opponent.
Pac is “juiced” in many minds. He at least would have to take random blood tests to prove he is clean like everybody else.
Floyd and Mosley are doing it why not the “DRama Queen Pacman”.
Why is no one talking about the fact that PAcquiao just gave blood, just 20 days before his fight with Clottey?!?He refused to fight Mayweather because of a superstition about giving blood anywhere inside 24 days before a fight. But now, in his very next fight, he gave blood 20 days before the fight!! He is on video! Why are all these sites, protecting Pacquiao and not reporting the facts??? This latest revelation makes it irrefutable that Manny straight ducked Mayweather. He can’t give blood that close to a fight with Mayweather, but if the fight is against anyone else, its no big deal. I guess Manny’s superstition, which didn’t exist last May, only lasted for a month. The month when Mayweather was trying to get a fight with him. Now, that Clottey is signed, suddenly giving blood is no big deal! Manny ducked Mayweather. There are no two ways about it. Pacduck lacks the heart to fight the best. He ducked Mosley and now straight lied in order to duck Mayweather. Look up Pacquiao physical, there is video footage of this!!!
ill still watch pacman cause he is always exciting just wish he would have had a more superstar challenge like mosley, williams or someone who has a real fan base
hbo has learned from calzaghe-jones that not all ppv events warrants a 24-7. you gotta have personality to fuel those shows and neither pacquiao or clottey have any.
Actually Pac-Clot doesn’t need HBO 24/7 because most of the tickets are sold!
all, the pac fans trying to hype the fight up and down grade the mosley 1…
at the end of the day mayweather is the bigger and better fight so TUFF luck lads.
im not a pac hater i love the guy but im a true boxing fan and
I know wich 1 of the 2 i will be waching
I agree i dont care about pac -clottey.But i cant wait for floyd-mosley!
agreed. People just wanna see Pac fight.
you know I think Team Pac might be underestimating Clottey. They are preparing very hard for the fight, for the event, for the fans, but are they preparing for Clottey???? hmmm
Not even Mosley will save pbf wanting a higher ppv. No one mentally normal will want to give his money to a fraud.
speak for yourself. i really want to see pac fight a top 5 welterweight.
Not even a 24/7 Series for Pac-Clottey could save this fight. It’s just a fight that noone wants to see.