Mayweather’s punitive measures for Pacquiao make it doubtful their fight will happen
February 15th, 2010
By Jason KIm: In a recent article at the Grand Rapids Press, unbeaten Floyd Mayweather’s comments about future drug testing as well as the purse split for a fight against Manny Pacquiao makes it look as if the fight will never be made. Mayweather, talking about Pacquiao, “I gave him a chance, up to 14 days out. But my new terms are all the way up to the fight. They can come get us whenever, all the way up to the fight, random drug tests. That’s what it is.” Mayweather’s March 13th fight against Pacquiao fell apart because Mayweather wanted random blood testing for performance enhancing drugs to be conducted within the 30 day window leading up to the fight.
But to see Mayweather now saying he wants the test to be taken all the way up to the fight, it makes you wonder whether Floyd is serious about wanting to fight Pacquiao. This isn’t a fighter that is badly in need of money and who will take whatever conditions that are given to him. Pacquiao already has more money than he needs and in his home country of the Philippines, Pacquiao’s money goes even further. If Mayweather thinks that he’s going to get Pacquiao to agree to random blood tests up through the fight, he’s probably sadly mistaken.
Mayweather also says “Instead of 20 or 25 [million dollars], he [Pacquiao] may have to drop to 15 or 17. And you know me, they may have to throw an extra five or ten on mine, and we can rock and roll. Take it or leave it.” Mayweather sounds as if he feels that he’s dictating the terms. Again, I just don’t see Pacquiao agreeing to these terms. I would hope that there is someone close to Mayweather that can give him a reality check so that he can understand that this probably won’t fly with Pacquiao.
Mayweather feels that if his fight against Shane Mosley does better than Pacquiao’s bout against Clottey, then he, Mayweather, should get the bigger revenue split next time around with Pacquiao. Last time it was 50-50 for Pacquiao and Mayweather, but it looks like Mayweather wants more if his fight does better. That’s really not fair considering that Pacquiao and Top Rank chose Joshua Clottey as a replacement for Mayweather after the negotiations with Floyd fell apart. Pacquiao and Top Rank could have, if they wanted to, found a much more appealing opponent Clottey if they thought it would lead to them getting a bigger cut of the percentage in a future fight against Mayweather.
It was easier for Mayweather, because all he had to do was find a better opponent than Clottey, and he obviously found one in Shane Mosley. But Mayweather is probably wasting his time if he thinks that he’s going to get a bigger percentage than Pacquiao based on a win over Mosley. All it will prove if Mayweather beats Mosley is that he was able to defeat a 38-year-old fighter who hasn’t fought in over a year.
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@Jimbo, the weight penalty is a non issue. First of all it is mutual penalty, not a mayweather penalty. Pac has to pay the same thing if he comes in overweight too. Secondly it could e $100M per pound. It doesn’t matter. No one is going to pay it because both fighters will come in at weight as they both should. Now the random unlimited blood testing is an entirely different matter. That WILL be imposed on the fighters random and unlimited starting immediately after contract signing. You cannot compare the two conditions. Pac already agreed to 3 blood tests and he agreed to 30 days out not 24. The 24 was a compromise. Mayweather came up LESS than halfway with his 14. GEt your facts straight. And also, there was NEVER any agreement on random and unlmited no matter waht the cutoff date. Pac’s 24 was ONE test 24 days out, ONE test at pross conference and ONE test after teh fight. Mayweathers 14 was random and unlimited all the way up to 14 days out. (Iwonder if May’s 14 included a test after the fight too?) May did not have to undergo any tests to determine if he wsa using xylocaine. But Pac’s attitude was that May can inject his hands with whatever, it won’t save him from getting beat up in the ring that night. Too bad Mayweather did not have the same confidence in himself or we would be seeing May Pac on Mar 13th instead of Clottey
‘One would have hoped that Mayweather would have learned the boundaries that Pacquiao has by now, and come forth with something that would perhaps meet Pacquiao halfway between 24 days and 14.’ – Mayweather went beyond halfway in the negotiations, He wanted them up to the fight, then gave in and allowed 14 days. 14 is over half of 24, therefore you Mayweather went over half way in the negootiations in this way, as well as agreeing to the huge weight penalty. Pacquiao is the one who needs to negotiate, as Mayweather already has gone beyond the midway point.
@honest pacman fan I seen the video you were referring to and was still dumbfounded by Manny!!This dummy took a blood test and didnt eat or drink anything!!!OF COURSE your gonna be weak!!Thats common sense!!I dont care about that weigh stuff,this is basically life or death if you aint careful!!He could have drank some water or ate something and worked it back off!!!And what happened after the weigh in?He still didnt eat or drink?I know he already weak at the weigh in,but he didnt eat or drink something after he a FOOL!!I bet he was so spooked from being weak that when he did(if he did)eat or drink something he tried to workout before the energy from the food didnt seat in!!He never recuperated properly,which if that was the case,i can see him being weak!!But Morales beat that ass!!But Pacman not having enough power to knock him out is the key!!I feel you!!I stated i didnt like the one to the day of test earlier,but them two weeks was a good deal instead of random!!
@ honest pacman fan It is only a teaspoon or less blood that will be drawn according to USDA!!They say the amount is so small it cant possibly effect the athlete!!I would think they know about all the blood facts you have posted!!They aint gone come in and take big samples for 45 days straight!!I believe USDA is the best way to go!!You aint never heard an Olympic athlete crying and complaining about the tests!!you they must be doing something right!!As far as hair samples goes i dont believe that you can find all PEDs through that method,just like urine!!BLOOD is the only way to go!!
Swinger, I have a better idea. How about if we all demand a non invasive urine test, or saliva or hair follicle that will detect everything that a blood test will and more so we can finally et rid of all blood testing from here on in and still ensure all athletes are clean so we can finally put this issue to bed. The problem with blood testing is it is invasive. Additionally it can get complicated. Maybe the nurse misses the vein a few times and makes your arm black and blue or sore. Or maybe the day of the fight it really does make you weak. It IS more than just a teaspoon and it is not the same thing at al as being cut froma headbutt or a punch. Test the athletes until the cows come home. random unlimited not cut off date. Fine. I agree. Do it. Just do it with some other test other than a blood test and this entire debate goes away. Poof.
How stupid can these Floyd fans who are convinced that they Fraud Floyd will beat Pacquiao, like lacem_up. If Fraud Jr is so good like you claim he is, how come he’s come up with these stupid, unheard of demands that will surely derail the fight?? Admit it, Fraud Jr is shaking in fear picturing pacquiao in front of him in the ring. Ha ha ha!
@hammer13
The video link (boxing news 24 blocks my post so search for these key words “Pacquiao Dong Puno”)
It’s not going to be 14days of hard training because depending on how fast Manny recovers he might only at most get 12 days of proper full on training.
Add if it was me, and I experienced what he did, I’d be 2nd guessing myself, so a definite NO. I’m not handing him an easy win and an easy pay check at the same time.
The argument of 24 and 14 days is really stupid and I’ll make you understand it with 2 simple facts:
- Some PED’s can be cycled in a matter of hours that’s why some Mayweather fans would argue that the test straight after the fight is useless. – FACT
- 14 days means Manny can still use the above mentioned PED’s and cheat – FACT
So why worry about the 10 days difference when Manny can still cheat. The only stand for Mayweather should have been just play random or no deal, for him to suddenly change tune to 14 days (not to say that he did it after the intervention of that judge) is really just to save face to make it look like he’s not running away.
“For everyone, whether you wager, whether you’re a fan, you ought to be disappointed if you’re not getting what you pay for. So, hopefully, clean athletes, and those who value playing by the rules, will stand behind a Mayweather, and others, who hopefully will come forward and demand it (Olympic style PED testing).”
Travis Tygert. Chief Exec. USADA.
Mayweather just recently started talking about Manny!!He was quiet for a while,while Manny was doing the talking right after he signed to fight Clottey!!And he would fight outside of Vegas already plenty of times and would again if the money was right!!We’ll see how many Manny can bring into Dallas first!!I know after witnessing the all star game with 108,000 he might feel a lil differently!!Vegas is still the Mecca though and grandest stage!!
I would agree to the blood test, but the fight will be outside of Vegas where Xylocaine is illegal. Floyd wants to clean up boxing? Then Prove it. Lets fight in Texas.
KFC’s next fight is with Mosley, right? Then why the hell does he keep talking about PAcman?
Can’t he just let it go? Oh….Money matters eh….I bet He wont get 25 million on his fight against mosley.
@Simon To go with my last post also,for Floyd to even come second is a honor for him,believe that!!He left and came back!!He probably second on every list!!Which in terms means especially when you left #1,you are still #1,because the person that is #1 only became #1 after you left!!They were second!!
@Mansterrr Look at my earlier post friend!!I said i hope that Manny is not on something but it is very fishy is all im saying!!As far as Vargas goes,he was a bum thats why it didnt matter!!Pacman aint no bum!!and lets not forget other boxers(paulie) aren’t sugar coating anything by saying he is on something!!Floyd aint say it like Paulie said it!!
@honest pacman fan Good post but i dont know about the video you talking about put a link up!!It make sense though,but like i said im a athlete too!!I was not effected,not that i know of!!Its a mind thing!!I think thats the biggest problem with Manny,he aint mentally tough!!And yes i would risk it,than to rather have my name tarnished because i didnt want to test the test within a certain time frame!!I thought two weeks was a good time!!You can go hard for two weeks straight and be ready!!
@Simon You a fool!!How can Floyd win any awards if he retired?He only had one fight since,so how can he win?That self proclaimed stuff is false because like i said MANY fans,boxers,trainers,and analysts not just me or Mayweather think he is the best!!And forgotten?PLEASE!!He was still being mentioned while retired,thats what made him come back!!Them 1 million pay per view buys say otherwise too!!
@Pic I dont agree with the up to the day fight,but the bigger purse yes!!He the bigger draw and evreyone knows it!And after Mosley he really should have control!!He gone back manny in a corner because he should have took the first deal!!It will be like Leonard vs Duran I!!Either accept these terms and come out and knock him out,or back pedal again!!I say do like Duran and come out swinging!!
@boxer 101 floyd will come close to that 20 million with fighting Shane!!How close will Manny be,is the question?So who need who?Why ask for a blood test from Marquez?Marquez aint doing super human things,thats why!!
@MrFlint 10 million dollars for a pound over equals you dont want to fight!!That was something new!!That price was way too steep!!
@Chris No Manny does not have more recognition than Floyd!!I mean think about this where was Manny this weekend at the All star game?This was his time to promote his fight because its in the same venue!!No it was Shane and Floyd there!!
@ADE Good ass point I forgot to mention!!It wont even be a pint for the tests!!Just a little vial!!I donated a whole lot more than that and felt fine!!
@Sauna Thank you!!Thats all im trying to get through to these guys!
@Mike Good theory!!He might give Paul williams a shot just because they friends!!Lets get this money together!!Or not!!There is a rematch clause in the contract for the Shane fight that aint nobody mentioning!!Mayweather pretended like he didnt know about when it was brought up,but come on,he read the contract he knew!!Get ready for a series of fights between these two!!As for manny,i think he will retire and not fight anyone!!It would be nice with Valero,but Foreman is gonna win against Cotto!!
@jon Good post!!He will beat anyone if will fight Mosley!!Mosley is his biggest challenge!!
@boxingfan Come on dude!!!!Mayweather would definitely take that bet!!He bet on himself for his fights son!!!
@lacem up I see you got your mind right from your earlier post!!
I think Floyd should gone fight the colonel at KFC cos thats where he belongs.
I don’t think Mayweather is thinking about the Pacquiao fight anymore. He’s going to fight Mosley, possibly Berto next, and then you still have Quintanna out their and Cintron. All these guys are still decent fighters, and you still have the option of moving up to 154 to face Sergio Martinez. So their are alot of good fights out their, and I’m sure these guys will all take a blood test. By deciding to fight Mosley, Mayweather has revealed his seriousness about trying to get to the level of being considered the greatest, and if you are willing to fight Mosley you probably are willing to fight just about any body so I can see some of these fights I named above happening in the future.
Floyd will never get credit just, because the simple fact that people don’t like his attitude. The Pacquiao Mayweather fight will never happen unless Pacquiao agrees to blood testing period. As far as the money is concerned, if Mayweather does better in ppv sales with his Mosley fight than Pacquiao with his Clottey fight their is an arguement to be made about the split, and that’s just being honest. What I see happenig is Mayweather beating Mosley, and believe it or not I see him fighting Paul Williams then doing his UK tour right before retiring. I see Pacquio crushing Clottey in a mismatch, then fighting Edwin Valero, or moving up and fighting Cotto for the 154 title after he beats Yuri Foreman.
I think that was Bob Arums plan to use Cotto to get the title from Yuri rather then risk Manny fighting someone that tall, and then have Pacquiao take it for his 8th belt from Cotto, then retire.
BOOO!!!! Excuses,Excuses!!! Mayweather will never get credit. Last time I checked, Shane beat Margarito and became champion and still hold that title because nobody wanted to fight him. He beat the indestructible Margarito. Now, He is too old and PBF will not get credit for beating this champion and conqueror of the beast that everyone was afraid of? Writer is a hater!!! Bias writing like this should be ignored. Is shane mosley not one of the top Welterweights? You guys are a joke. Stop hating and give the credit. Everyone was saying Floyd doesn’t fight top notch fighters, now he is fighting a champion with KO power in both hands and he will get no credit for the win? You are not boxing fans, you are fighter fans. Stop hating!!!!
Mayweathers to clean boxing…. Why don’t they start by throwing themselves to the garbage where they belong !
funny thing is i didn’t here none of you pac fools saying a damm thing about money when pac roid fought a old ass weight drain oscar , and oscar got way more money than pac roid.. pfb came back and made 15 mill. and pac fought coto for 12 mill. thats the most he pac roid could make is 12 mill? mayweather is by far the biggest draw in boxing just look at the same people they have fought and the numbers dont lie people do…
The amount of blood given by a donor is a much larger amount than the amount of blood drawn from a test. Two different subjects
Floyd is just a braggart! He will get his due from Mosley!
Forget Floyd Mayweather Jr. I will watch whenever Pacman fights because it entertain me. Mayweather or no Mayweather is just a hyped and nuisance. Pacman has more recognition in boxing than Floyd Mayweather Jr so no need to level himself to a hypocrit and trash talker.
Listen,we’ve already analysed this to death,we could carry on until the next century but just think about this for a moment-a much used comment is Pac refused a $25million test.How about this Mayweather INVENTED a $25million rule??
People talk about concessions made ie glove size,ring size and weight penalties etc as evidence of Floyd trying to get the fight on.All these are common disputes which occur all the time but then Floyd insists on tests never before requested in the history of boxing with no evidence to justify it,whilst at the same time casting doubt,again with no evidence,on Pacs achievements.HE DON’T WANT TO FIGHT!!
@BoxingFan,
Great response. Those were statements made by professional boxers and trainers. You can’t be be more explicit than that. Why didn’t Mayweather asked this from Marquez before they fought? Why single out Pacquiao? Now Mayweather is saying he’ll insist next on blood testing up to a day before a fight and he all wants the money. He’s crazy! Maybe Mayweather should submit to a Psych test instead. He’s truly mental!
what floyd dont understand is this is from the american blood center site
How often can I give?
Donate whole blood every 56 days. Red blood cells are the oxygen carrying cells. They can take two weeks or longer to fully return to normal.
Donate platelets (apheresis donation) as much as twice in one week – or up to 24 times per year. Platelet and plasma components are replaced in the body more quickly than red cells. Platelets will return to normal levels within a few hours of donating. Plasma, the watery substance of your blood, takes a couple of days.
How much blood do I have in my body?
Women have about 10 pints, and men about 12 pints of blood in their bodies.
that right you have 1 gal 4 cup of blood, 5 or 6 test should be 1 or 2 cups of blood,that will not recover in 2 weeks ,floyd rather get pounded in your head 200 times with less blood than fight a maybe guy who might be on steroids,.
if you think blood dont make a diffrence ,try this but make sure you have a guy behind to catch you.or dont, as you will guarantee pass out cold.dont remember sh…t and hit your head hard.knell down and take 10 deep breath.whole your breath and stand up. you have stop circulation and you have less blood in your brain ,so you pass out cold,dont try it ,one guy had a huge bump as no one caught him
@Simon
manny can give his briefs.
floyd can give his panties.
This is the official “I don’t want to fight you” statement of Mayweather.
If Mayweather thinks he can earn 25 M fighting someone else, he’s stupid. They both need each other to get that money. And I believe Pac vs Mosley is the better fight.
I hate to be sarcastic but you know what, if I were Manny, I’ll just give Floyd my DIRTY BRIEF so he can conduct all the tests he needs like blood, urine, siemen, Stool, etc all at once.
@an honest pacman fan, great post. You hit the nail on the head. It is NOT just one blood test. It is unlimited. Over and over. How is he supposed to train properly. And it is not the same for Floyd. Blood testing doesn’t bother him a bit. Just because two people are doing the same thing, doesn’t mean they are doing the same thing. Claustrophobic example is perfect. You know for all the money involved, you would think they could come up with a noninvasive urine or saliva test or hair follicle test that would do everything. That would make this entire blood testing issue obsolete and Floyd woudl have to find a new excuse to get out of facing Pac in the ring.
With these new demands from Mayweather, i.e., random blood testiong all the way to fight night and a bigger share of the purse, it is very evident that Mayweather does not want to fight Pacquiao. pacquiao has just been nemed boxer of the year and boxer of the decade, defeating Mayweather by a large margin and now Mayweather has the nerve to demand for a bigger share of the prize money?
Go away Mayweather
When you say a “lot” you probably mean a FEW from pundits like you. Just tell me straight. Have Floyd receive any recognition lately, say WBAA fighter of the decade award and many, many more. The answer is an absolute NO, NIL and Nothing. Yet Floyd is clamining he’s the best, the No. 1 which by all stretch of imagination, a self-serving self-proclaim statements devoid of facts. He should be ashamed of himself. Floyd in fact became a forgotten specie on the face of the earth and an irrelevant figure in boxing.
Atleast there is decent exchange of arguments here and not all childish name calling and swearing:
@hammer13:
With “We all know giving blood weakens you!!But the point is how much will it effect a elite athlete that is in ultimate shape?I dont think much!!”
- This is very wrong…. Think about it this way, because their bodies are so in tuned, they actually need their blood more than we do. It’s like people who sit on the couch the whole day require less energy than the people who are more active.
Another thing that you have to understand is that even though we can say that blood tests don’t affect us, the argument goes out the window because there is a video of Manny explaining how it weakened him before Morales 1. This is also before the Mayweather business, so this is no propaganda or planned video. Another argument is that just because you can stay on a crowded room doesn’t mean everyone can, clustrophobic people can’t do this even if you try and convince them that it’s alright. And another thing, if the argument is that he’ll recover quickly, you should ask the question “How much is his training going to get affected?”. If he gets weakened (which noone should argue because of the video that I mentioned above) then he can’t really prepare 100%. Would you risk this? Knowing that you haven’t had the best of preparations, would you risk losing to a person who tried to tarnish your legacy and hand him a fat pay check at the same time?
STONEHANDED;
ill try to answer your post. the differnce between the great roberto duran and manny pacoiu is that duran was a great and dominating fighter ALL of his carreer exept until he got real old..he fought to long imo. manny p. on the other hand, as i have said b4, was at best average his entire career !! then some how around the age of thirty become some super human beast that walks through every fighter… get the difference ?? most do..thats why people suspect something fishy..like barry bonds hitting more homers than ever when he gets old !! not to mention hes terrified of random blood testing !! or was it needles??
Floyd Mayweather Jr. demands for a fight against Manny Pacquiao is just absurb. And a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is just a dream, it might never happen. It’s plain and simple, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is afraid of Manny Pacquiao. His imagination of fighting Manny Pacquiao send tremors right down his balls.
@Hawaiian Man Floyd is one of the smartest boxers we’ve seen in a lonnnnngggg time INSIDE OR OUTSIDE THE RING!!So like Mr.Jackson says BEAT IT!!!!!
@Roys Good,forget that great point!!!!!We all know giving blood weakens you!!But the point is how much will it effect a elite athlete that is in ultimate shape?I dont think much!!Especially not to the accord of 100-200 less punches!!I dont believe so!!Its a mind thing!!Like i said before am a athlete(football player) myself who has had to give blood and then perform a hour later and i didnt lose a beat and felt great!!!This was in 95 degree heat.Drink plenty of fluids after giving blood and you will be fine!!And i know i aint even close to being in the kind of shape a boxer is in!!
@mansterrrr Why you keep saying the same thing?I already answered you!!Aint no amount of money worth the risk of fighting a “dirty” fighter!!!He could kill him on one punch already,let alone if he is juiced up!!Money obviously aint worth dying for!!I know their boxers and all but would you get in the ring with someone you suspected is “dirty”just to get paid even though you think better than them?NOOOOOOO!!!Its too much of a risk,that is already present in boxing!!
Floyd possesses his father’s genes…so this explains his mentality…too much hits to the head causes irrational thinking & imbalance..
THE HAMMER13 @ floyd not very brite,but its his head,but its lead to one conclusion if the american blood center say your blood will not recover in less that two week,you will be weaker ,and as floyd is a counter puncher and throws 400 to 500 punches a fight .vs pac 700 to 800 and mosley 600 to 700 ,the blood test favor floyd as the less active but more accurate puncher. so pac has a point.
@simon Self pro claimed are you serious?You cant be!!!He is still #1 in a lot of fans,boxers,trainers,and analysts minds!!They say it all the time!!Listen to Kellerman,”there is nobody better in boxing than Pacquaio,except for maybe a Floyd Mayweather”!!I mostly state facts and a lil bit of my opinion,but come on SELF PRO CLAIMED????????
@mrskew You got it backwards bro!!Manny aint gone fight nobody elite in the division!!He gone retire!!Floyd will keep going on after May 1st and Manny might fall off the map,especially if Clottey fight like i know he can!!Just think about it what if the other boxers ask Manny for the tests before they fight?You think these other boxers aint watching and are now concerned,especially if he knockout Clottey?Aint that much money in the world,im telling you,to risk your life more than what you are already doing in the sport of boxing!!Clottey i believe only took this fight because he has been cheated the last few times out and is now looking for the ultimate redemption,no matter what the cost!!What will Manny do if the other fighters ask for the Tests?He gonna have to accept the terms and take the tests for a way lesser purse,or back down again,or retire like he already hinting that he plans on doing anyway!!!
All these so-called punitive measures Floyd is embarking on are pure crap and a figment of a madman’s imagination. Floyd cannot and will not accept the truth and nothing but the truth that he (Floyd) is a nobody now. He holds no title, no respect and hsi highest attainment if any, was an ex-self proclaimed and unproven P4P puppet.
@stonehanded Margarito was a prospect,not an elite like i said!!
@KenD Mind your business when grown folks is talking,especially in a intellectual conversation!!If you aint gone say something positive,then you Shut the hell up!!You tried to place a comment earlier but you sooooooo stupid nobody understood what you were trying to say!!Now does everyone agree with that?
@Roys Good point made,but i have to believe that the USDA knows those facts and wont test them that much,maybe once a week!!Remember though,Floyd was gonna go through the same tests!!!
I believe that the Pacman team will take on any other boxer in this weight division they think they have a decent chance against, and leave P.B.F. begging for a match up , and if Iwere pacman, P.B.F would never get a chance at a match again with me!!! He (P.B.F.) screwed up the best chance of his life and I dont think the Pacman bunch will give him (P.B.F.) ANY CHANCE AT ALL IN THE FUTURE.Sorey P.B.F. you pooped in your own nest, and now your going to have to live with it.
what floyd dont understand is this is from the american blood center site
How often can I give?
Donate whole blood every 56 days. Red blood cells are the oxygen carrying cells. They can take two weeks or longer to fully return to normal.
Donate platelets (apheresis donation) as much as twice in one week – or up to 24 times per year. Platelet and plasma components are replaced in the body more quickly than red cells. Platelets will return to normal levels within a few hours of donating. Plasma, the watery substance of your blood, takes a couple of days.
How much blood do I have in my body?
Women have about 10 pints, and men about 12 pints of blood in their bodies.
that right you have 1 gal 4 cup of blood, 5 or 6 test should be 1 or 2 cups of blood,that will not recover in 2 weeks ,floyd rather get pounded in your head 200 times with less blood than fight a maybe guy who might be on steroids,.
if you think blood dont make a diffrence ,try this but make sure you have a guy behind to catch you.or dont, as you will guarantee pass out cold.dont remember sh…t and hit your head hard.knell down and take 10 deep breath.whole your breath and stand up. you have stop circulation and you have less blood in your brain ,so you pass out cold,dont try it ,one guy had a huge bump as no one caught him
@stonehanded Dude i already acknowledged that Manny agreed to the tests in my last post i just forgot to put “agree” in the first sentence!!Come on with the weight issue!!Mayweather can in overweight by 2 pounds on purpose to be comfortable and didnt care about that lil money!!He did keep his obligations to that fight by paying the man!That was in the contract to pay each other the amount if they were overweight!!As far as Mitchell,it was testing the waters,like i said!!And dont act like Mitchell was a pushover back then,he was a contender sir!!Then the fight with Zab was at welterweight to take Zab’s title but Baldomir did it already and he still fought a tough and one of his elite oppnents in Judah anyway!!He was a mental case In your opinion because he lost his belts!!Nobody you mentioned was an elite fighter back then except Shane and i already explained that!!Those names you just mentioned were mere whispers in the dark when Floyd retired!!Nobody cared about them.like i said the need to eliminate each other first,then come to the big dawgs!!We cant even tell which one is the best out of those names yet!!My no loss theory isnt a swipe at the greats!!It only pertains to right now!!If Floyd lost he still will be great just like the rest of the greats who lost!!My beef is right now he is the only undefeated one with that record,and should be considered the best because of it without a doubt,which he was until he retired!!Now he battling for #1P4P,when he come back,but why?He was still number 1 in my book when he returned,even before the Marquez fight,because he still hasnt lost!!The Marquez fight was a tune up and im back fight for Manny!!You knew that already though!!
THE HAMMER 13,
Stop blathering and SHUT-UP! DUDE!!
@The Hammer, i appreciate your response in kind because i too am at work
in your response to Margarito i don’t think he was a nobody at all, he fought Pwill and had a good run imo, it was just a damn shame that he was using plaster of paris on his hands, to how long that was happening who knows? but he was definitely a prospective fighter.
@mansterrrrr Aint no fight just jumped in to dude!!!This is not like no other sport dude!!Thats why they have contracts and demands and so forth!!Everything takes time in boxing!!This is a business!!
@The Hammer, once again you fail to realise that Manny DID agree to the testing dates, it was only UNTIl he had it shortened from the initial window that he dropped the whole agenda and took Mayweather and GBP to court for defamation, something anyone would’ve done if they are clearly innocent. Those stipulations your talking about were put into place by Team Pacqiuao due to Mayweathers inability to keep his contractual obligations with his fight against Marquez.
And yes he was in the welter division in ’05, he FOUGHT Sharmba Mitchell, how is that testing the water? i do believe he jumped straight in, against a shot fighter and wait for it…WON! Then fought a mentally unstable Zab who gave Floyd trouble and wait…WON
He had his opportunity to fight elite welters in the name of Margarito (prior to the hand wrap debacle), a younger Mosley, Cotto, a hungry Clottey, Paul Williams – who has paid his dues imo but can’t get a fight because he is a freak. Hell Floyd could’ve WAITED for the winner of the Hatton-Pacquaio fight to see who was the 1# p4p. Instead he took a fight against JMM, a fighter who actually went up TWO divisions to fight Floyd to lose not by KO but by decision.
And concerning losses, so what? your telling me that the great Sugar Ray Robinson, who has lost isn’t as good a fighter as Floyd because his L column doesn’t have an 0? Your argument is flawed on the basis that just because a fighter has lost he is not as good as a fighter who hasn’t e.g Sven Ottke is better than Pernell Sweet Pea Whittaker because he hasn’t lose…
@STONEHANDED Im a lil busy thats why its taking so long to respond,but Margarito is another nobody!!!Especially back then!!Maybe Shane shoulda fought him since he was vouching for him on that same interview i brought up earlier!!Mayweather wants to fight headliners,and Margarito aint one, thats why he didnt fight him!!He would put Margarito to shame just like Shane did,maybe no knockout but Margarito wouldnt even have been close to hitting Mayweather!!He fought Baldomir because he had a belt and once again like i said was testing the waters or the division!!Then after destroying Oscar and Hatton he had nothing else to prove,wasnt no elite contender in the division at the time but Shane,and i explained that already!!I disagree with you on the Castillo fight too!!I watched it several times and had Floyd ahead by two points,sorry!!Castillo did the best against Floyd but it only made him stronger!!By going through that war,why would anyone say he is afraid to fight anyone?People are blinded by BS!!Throughout the whole fight Mayweather never faltered or waivered and kept doing what he wanted no matter what Castillo was trying to do!Thats why he won!!As far as points go,this was one of the rare instances that the numbers didnt matter,you had to decide by watching the fight,not the punch stats,because he out punched Mayweather to what degree,because it had no effect he was just swinging away!!
@mansterrr Who wants to get in the ring with someone who might be juiced up?That isnt smart no matter if your better than them or not!!You could get killed!!Obviously his life is more important than money!!The cloud aint over his head because its on Manny!Mayweather is smart for not backing down!!He could have had the fight of his life and lost to a cheater!We need a beyond certainty level playing field!
floyd should be called mr elbow throw it so much ,paste this in google PBF_TheCheat_CortezIncompetent_Part2
@stonehanded I know Manny to take the tests my friend!!That is Floyd’s demand dude!!So he already agreed to the demand but then wanted to put his own stipulation on it!!Lets stop at so and so date!!Thats BS!!This is my(mayweather)demand,so why are you(Manny)putting stipulations on my demand?He didnt put any on Manny’s demands,did he?And the weight thing was a dumb demand anyway!!Secondly he was not in the welterweight division in 2005!!True he was competing in the division,but was merely testing the waters and going in that weight class to take belts!!He jumps around like that,just like Manny!!Now is the time we should be talking about!!Floyd aint prove nothing yet in this division except for stealing some belts!!Manny beat Cotto,thats all he proved!!We will see how he do against Clottey(who i think beat Cotto,and was cheated)and we will see what Floyd do to the best known welterweight who has ruled and been in this division for a long time!!What fighters has Floyd ducked is a question i been asked and cant get a answer and i mean credible fighters?Paul williams is decent but no one wants to fight him and he still aint paid his dues yet and he got a loss,and him and Floyd are friends,and he throw a lot of pitty pat punches which add up but are not daming at all!!All the youger welterweights have to beat each other before they get a shot at the big dawgs(Money,Manny,Shane).I believe Berto is the best one after he got rid of Collazo!And he is undefeated is the reason why Money is decade of the year fighter!!Manny has losses in this decade,and only won because he knock people out and is the most exciting!!That dont add up if you exciting and still lose and draw!!That is pretty stupid if you ask me for people to vote him in,if anything Calzaghe or Money easily win this debate!!
@duys I dont even know what you’re trying to say but its not all about the knockout my friend,just ask Tyson!!This is a skill sport!I like the knockouts and all but ill rather see a clinic on how to box,not brawl!!I like the look on Mayweather’s opponents faces and what they be saying after the fight!!He make them look stupid as a professional without the knockout!!Thats what i watch for!!I dont care what he says and how he acts outside the ring and you shouldnt either!!We dont know them personally!!All we should worry about is what they do or did in the ring and it =Mayweather is the Best,until proven otherwise!!POINT,BLANK,PERIOD!!
@LEX_Fugitive, Poor Noy Noy, The Fight Doctor and The Hammer 13….WHY NO REPLY TO MY POSTS?
@The Hammer, let me see, Mayweather DUCKED Margarito and then fought a journeyman fighter in the name of Carlos Baldomir and then retired after winning against ODLH and Ricky instead of cleaning out the division in which he claimed dominance.
Let’s get this clear, I do not hate Mayweather, i find him a masterful technician but when people like you start talking how he is unbeatable YET he was clearly outboxed, outpointed and thoroughly BEATEN in his first fight by Jose Luis Castillo (I was there at the fight) it leaves me shaking my head.
i dont care what you guys talking about, for me the most important thing is that manny pacquiao bring the boxes great. no one cant do that after Tyson did. And for u all The PBF fans, There is no macth between Manny fights to PBF, you all may say that PBF is the great, yes I admited too that he is geniously talented, but for me as a boxing fan, all the Pacquiao’s fight is brilliant as the most entertaining boxing show, he showed courage and heart in the ring wihtout open his mouth loudly like PBF. Think about that!
@The Hammer, that was a cute little rant but you do realise Manny agreed to have his blood taken right? he just didn’t want to bow down to Floyd’s demands. You talk about people ducking others, Floyd has ducked every elite welter since moving up in weight back in 2005. It’s only now since Berto had to pull out that he’d been cornered into actually taking the fight. He comes back from what? an 18 month lay off and decides to fight someone who is two weight divisions lower than his range rather than awaiting the turnout of the Pacqiao/Hatton fight? please give me your relative theories concerning why Mayweather should be the BWAA Fighter of The Decade other than Pacqiuao and i’d be more than happy to disprove them.
random blood tests? hahaha you made me laugh Floyd ,you fought the unbeaten Hatton and made him come up to 147 no blood test demand then he fought Marquez a legendary lightweight made him climb up to 144 still no blood tests required.Pacquiao destroyed three big men and the world wants to see you and Pacquiao get it on inside the ring then you suddenly started this “cleaning the sport of boxing campaign”?You still don’t see the reality that Pacquiao is greater than you because i’m sure you can’t beat Cotto the same way Pacquiao did.
graham says:
February 15, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Jason jason jason…I can see you are not taking this news very well. Maybe you need a break. Honestly I sense anger in your article, pure emotion, and definately not holding back.
It’s so sad that you Pac fans find yourselves in this situation. But like I have been saying, you are fighting a losing battle. What Pacquiao did i.e. refusing an olympic-style drug test and walking away from $40 million, does not make sense.
If you found yourself making up excuses like “superstition” for Pacquiao, that should have been an alarm bell for you. You Pac fans need to take a rest from this.
@anonymous I know there is no evidence!!Which i stated,but prove everybody wrong is what im saying!!Dont retreat!!If someone is accused of murder with no evidence against them they give a alibi!!Manny’s alibi was for him to take the damn test!!Like i said,i hope he aint Dirty but I dont know,just like the world dont know!!I and WE want to know,so take the tests or keep the doubt in everybody mind,which is not gonna be good for him!!It already has affected the fans!!Think about this he probably is gonna have to take some tests to win his defamation suit!!Thats the only way he gone win!!So he’ll take the tests then for a mere 1-2 million but wont for the 20-50 million!!Thats ass backwards!!
F-E-A-R is the only explanation for FLOYD JR. not to fight PACQUIAO, period.
And as far as ducking goes who did he ever duck?I hope not Pacman because Pacman was scared!!When someone say you’re cheating you want to prove them wrong,right?Not retreat and say we’re not gonna be pushed around by Mayweather!!Thats Arum talking not Pacman you idiots!!This is 2010 and steroids have been brought to the limelight in recent years because of all the great accomplishments in sports!!People wanna know if you did it on your own!!And Manny ran!!Just like Barry Bonds who never got caught and never admitted to it!!When you know you’re clean you want to prove it!!Mayweather came to the front and wanted to lead the Testing to all sports not just his and people think he ducking Manny?How did he know if he came up with this stipulation that Manny would run?Because Manny has said he dont like needles,but has tattoos?He didnt know a person who has previously taken blood tests would run when the opportunity to make between 20-50 million in one fight came about!!Did yall know Manny would say no?Nobody did except Manny!!How could someone predict that?And for them to even negotiate a timeframe makes it worse!!I would at least say stop at two days because of the supposedly weaking Manny thing!!But two weeks is way enough time!!Now a admitted user will step up and show the World and Manny how its done!!Shane will lose but probably give Mayweather his toughest fight ever!!While Pacman will probably get his toughest fight at Welterweight so far,while i dont know if he will win or lose!!And think about this Manny is thinking about retiring after this fight!!What a loser!!Retire when you haven’t even tried to face the top opponents in your division!!Now as for ducking Shane,he did the same thing shane did to him when he was calling Shane out in 99!!If that is ducking then thats what it is!!At least you never heard Floyd in an interview jumping around Shane name with excuses!!Floyd says when people mentioned Shane’s name (which it wasnt that many times)he’ll fight anybody at anytime!!He wants to fight the best and its up to his management to decide!!Shane says”uh right now i cant think straight because my tooth is loose and i planned on going on a vacation,and this and that!!Studdering and looking real nervous!!Im glad on May 1st we get to see the best P4P go at it finally!!Because Manny aint in either one’s league!!and Manny is good,but he aint Sugar Shane and Pretty Boy!!I dont care how mnay titles he won!!Nobody on his record is very credible!Everybody knew he would win the fights he fought except for Cotto,but Cotto is overrated!!Floyd has fought plenty of people,that some of the boxing world thought he would lose to!!40 and 0!!On to the next one,which will be the best one!!
DON’T FORGET no one has any proof that Manny is on the juice therefore; back-off the guy…it is possible to accomplish what Manny did without PED’s…just ask Mohammed Ali…..
One question to all the Pacman nut huggers out there and the Mayweather haters(i like both fighters both Money is better)Would Pacman be #1 P4P if Floyd never retired?NOOOOOOO!!!I hear all of these complaints and dumb comments about Mayweather that were never,ever said before he retired and came back!!Writers and analysts make up ridiculous statements and the people run with it!He never was called a “ducker” before this Pacman stuff.Nobody ever challenged his level of opponents before,if they did how did he become #1 P4P?Now because of the Pacman fallout,Mayweather scared?People wonder if he’ll come up with a excuse or something?When has he ever not performed when the contract was signed?NEVER exact a rib injury coming back to fight Marquez!!Was he scared of Marquez too,a guy he beat easily?NOOOOOO!!He has never been afraid!!was he afraid to go up in weight and fight Oscar at 154 instead of bringing Oscar down?NOOOO!!But nobody is on Manny except for smart people for not taking the tests!!I hope he is clean but he put doubts in my head for the dumb excuses!!Im a professional athlete(football player) and had to go take blood tests and then go practice in 95 degree heat and felt fine!!drank plenty of fluids and you’ll be fine!!Dont no pint of blood weaken you!!Floyd will beat Shane and it will be another excuse for why he won,but like i said these excuses were not present until he came back!!WHY??When he beat Oscar nobody said Oscar was over the hill!When he beat Hatton,everybody applauded!And so forth with all his opponents!Now he come back and kill Marquez,oh Marquez is over the hill!!Beat Shane,the same response!!Come on people get a grip on reality!!He The Best until someone beat him!!#1 P4P spot coming back to the rightful owner on May 1st!!
c-rock don’t you get it,Floyd does not want to fight Manny that’s why he made all these allegation. Manny doesnot want to be push around. Integrity and principles more important than money something Floyd don’t have.
@Lex why don’t you respond in kind? lost for words much? or do you have a writers block because you can’t come up with a single retort to what i’ve just said? Oh and by the way, I too have read the so called ‘negotiations’ weeks ago on Mayweather. Negotiations do not ensure a fight and granted if Mosley had’ve won against Berto i truly believe Floyd would’ve ducked him yet again. Truth be told the only reason why he DID take this fight up was because Floyd didn’t want to dance with PWill. But i’m afraid in light of this your boyfriend Floyd is biting off a little more than he can chew with Mosley. You and the rest of your merry little men who follow Floyd give the sport of boxing a bad name.
If pacman is juiced up so what, You are telling everybody how you gonna kick his ass and its gonna be an easy fight for you.If he is on something,why didn’t you go to the comission so they can do something,that way you can still fight him and get 40 million for it, unless you are running scared of him and you are making all these unsubstancetiated allegation to avoid fighting him. The whole world knows Fraud..oh i mean Floyd…….Remember the whole world knows……….
That 14 day cut off date he is talking about was never brought up the table.He is doing damage control now.The whole world knows Floyd,you are running scared.You really don’t want a piece of Manny,now you are doing all this interviews telling everyone no more 14 days cut off date and no mre 50-50 split.One more thing don’t even compare yourself to Ali.He is the greatest and you are a fraud.run…run…..You go pretty girl….ha….ha
What’s out there’s a fraud in the house
To be safe, they should take the test. Because if that was you in the ring with pacman the way he has destroyed Cotto and everyone else. It make you believe that something is going on with the Pacman camp. Right?
Well Fight Doctor? Well Noy Noy’s? Well Lex? any answer to my question that i had asked earlier? No rational responses?
Floyd already lost the battle. His greed, lies and jealousy have deeply caught up with him and he’s now a demon possessed
man lurking in wilderness going nowhere, achieving nothing. While Pac is continuing in his meteoric rise to success, he remain a humble man. Floyd on the otherhand, is going down the abyss-a bottomless fall leading to his ultimate destruction. Again, the simple truth is: Pac doesn’t need Floyd neither the boxing fans nor the world of boxing. He can go back to retirement where he once belong and cling to his Zero record.
@Lex AND ALL YOU FLOYD FANS, i’ve asked you repeatedly to answer my goddamn question on two topics now and yet you still duck me. I’ll ask you one more time you pussies: Give me a rational explanation for this if you know the sport of boxing –
Roberto Duran started his career weighing 119 lbs. He later went on to win titles at 135, 147, 154, 160 and 168 lbs. At 154, 35 lbs above his debut weight, he devastated Davey Moore, essentially ending his career. At 168lbs, almost 50 lbs above his debut weight, he KTFO Iran Barkley. Clearly “hands of stone” was a roid cheat right?
Sugar Ray Leonard began his career at 147 lbs, yet managed to knock out Donny Lalonde to win both the WBC 168 lb and 175 lb titles. The obvious conclusion: ROIDS!!
ANSWER THE QUESTION FLOYD FANS.
Poor Noy Noy, sorry but it’s quite difficult to agree with your point.
You keep on bringing up OTHER athletes from different sports. The point is that IT IS AN OLYMPICS REQUIREMENT that drug testing is applied. IT IS NOT APPLIED BY THE BOXING COMMISION.
How hard is it to understand that? Really.
floyed m jr will have to fight someone like a paul williams or yuri formen to top manny .
maytarts fm has 6 amateure losses ,while mp turned pro with no amateure fights !!manny will have fought 2 top 5 ww if he beats clottey and fm fought 1 .manny is still p4p .fm will half to fight someone like a paul williams if he wants to fight pac !!!!
to the pac fools out there…. stop acting like pac roid is fighting the best,he could have fought ss mosley BUT HE DID NOT, he could have pbf,BUT HE DID NOT.. he will never fight an african american fighter period… if pac roiod has nothing to hide he should have took the blood test 14 days before the fight.beat his ass and then took him to court. but naw manny is nothing more than a drama queen, and a cheater……
The KFC keep on creating noise! bock,bock,bock,bock,bock,bockok
You don’t even get the point:
It’s not about what Mayweather wants.
It’s about the ridiculous stance and excuses that Pacquiao has given to avoid drug testing.
There simply isn’t any good reason why a professional athlete can’t submit to randomized drug testing. Period.
And Pactards have yet to explain why OST wasn’t a problem when negotiations began (again, quoted in the press). Then all of a sudden Roach starts backpedaling. So we’ve gone from ‘no problem with OST’ to ‘We need a 5 day window.’
Then 5 days suddenly becomes 30 days. Because Pacquiao is scared of needles. Or superstitious. Or some other lame ass excuse.
So Mayweather wants the fight. He splits the difference: 14 day window.
And Pacquiao won’t budge. 24 days. He apparently needs 3 weeks where nobody’s testing his blood. (lol).
And finally the bottomline – who walks away from the fight?
Pacquiao walks from the fight.
And only days later, we’ve got Clottey-Pacquiao.
And Pactards are saying it was Mayweather who didn’t want the fight? Who was scared of Pacquiao?
Nah. It was Pacquiao who didn’t want the fight. Who got scared when Mayweather called all his bluffs. Gave Pacquioa the 8oz gloves. Gave Pacquiao the $10 million/pound penalty. Gave Pacquiao a 50/50 split.
And all Mayweather wanted in return? A standardized and randomized drug testing.
(you know, the one that Shane Mosley and all the Winter Olympians currently competing took/will take without complaint).
And Pacquiao couldn’t even agree to that.
So we have a supposedly ATG who walks away from a $40 million payday because he refuses to take a stricter drug testing policy.
But that isn’t suspicious. Neither is a Barry Bonds hitting more home runs than he’s ever hit even as he approaches 40. Neither is Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa and the dozens of other juiced batters suddenly destroying home run records. Neither is Roger Clemens suddenly throwing heat again at an older age, even as his previous seasons (before he went on the juice) showed his skills and performance to be on the decline.
None of that is suspicious. Just like a certain boxer walking away from a $40 million payday because he refuses to have his blood tested for a 3-week period before his fight.
Not suspicious at all.
mayweather dont need to fight paciaou anyway…let pac retire for good who cares ?? ever since floyd retired and handed him the p4p title pac has been beating up bums !! top rank always makes most of the demands of a fight and when some one wants anything at all they walk away! or they threaten “the fights off” top rank fighters been caught cheating before.. bob arum admited to paying bribes to get his fighters more highly rated !! mayweather is and always will be the biggest draw in boxing anyway you look at it!! count ppv or look at the internet postings..a pac only story dont get any atten. until you add mayweathers name to it !! pac man better just stick to has been or never were fighters or he will be embarased!!
People go back to page 22,23,24 on this website. Mayweather was in negotations with Mosley before Berto ever pulled out. I know the Pactards want to insist Mayweather was somehow forced into this, but the fact remains he started negotations to face Mosley after the Berto match. Another fact is that Pacquiao ducked Mosley because MOSLEY WAS “TOO GOOD”.Not for Floyd though.
If Floyd wins, all it proves is he beat a fighter that was “too good” for Manny to face. It’s not Floyd’s fault Manny chose a second-tier opponent. The truth is if Manny were facing someone like Mosley and Mayweather fighting Clottey, Top Rank would be saying Manny is getting more against Floyd. Look at their PPV numbers, Floyd definitely deserves a bigger cut of the purse. You can’t even compare them. With three common opponents, Mayweather basically doubled Mannys PPVs. Outside of Phillipine-Americans, Manny isn’t that big of a draw. Floyd carried a PPV basically by himself to over a million, plus all the theaters that showed it across the country. Manny will have lost a lot of leverage if he can’t pull a million PPVs. And rightfully so, if you don’t take any chances and only fight second tier opponents, its hard to argue you deserve 50% percent of the purse. I think Mayweather will back down A LITTLE on the testing, but he does deserve a minimum of a 55/45 purse split. Probably at least 60/40 really.
This is highly suspicious of Floyd.
We all know that Mayweather knows how to sell a fight. He’s the best at it. Even Roach has admitted Floyd is great at selling fights.
So, why keep going on about the Pacquiao fight? IMO he’s selling the fight that will take place later this year. If Mayweather beats Mosley, and Pacquiao beats Clottey, then a November/December 2010 megafight is going to be the biggest PPV in sporting history. And that’s what they’re BOTH building up to. I bet even the lawsuit is just part of the promotion for both the fight and the 24/7 series.
well if fm and mp dont fight next then fm would have to fight some one like paul williams to out do pac .manny did not have any amiture fights he turned pro at 16 fm had 6 losses in his amiture carrer !!
Mayweather is now seriously embarrassing himself and making a mockery of his achievements.
If you go along with Mayweather on this issue and actually support his claims and his talks about blood tests etc… then get off this site, stop watching boxing and take a look in the mirror… your an embarrassment.
Mayweather will always be number 2, Paquiao will always be number 1 unless pacman will retire. hahahahahahahahahah
Personally the fight will happen if floyd jr loses to mosley then he will be desperate for bigger fights and more money. I believe he will drop the drug test if he had to since if he lost to mosley again on the contract he asked for a rematch with. If floyd jr lost to that then his carrer has dropped.
Floyd is turning boxing into a circus, but don’t take my word for it :
Larry Holmes, Heavyweight Champion:
I wish I could see Mayweather and Pacquiao fight, but what they’re (Floyd’s camp) doing right now is hurting boxing because people want to see the fight… They’re trying to bring up stuff that is taking away from the fight with drug tests and accusations… I don’t get it.”
Joe Goosen, Legendary Boxing Trainer:
“I just think Pacquiao is a juggernaut right now… and I would just say that maybe that’s the reason (Floyd’s) throwing up all these smokescreens and roadblocks because he (Floyd) doesn’t wanna get in the ring with him (Pac)… (Floyd) should just say yes to the fight, forget all the testing, this guy’s (Pac) not on drugs. There’s a little air there in all this that’s just not
right.”
Al Bernstein, Showtime Boxing Analyst:
“It seems patently obvious to me that Floyd and his minions killed the Pacquiao fight. The bottom line is that the fight was basically a done deal before they decided to inject the demands for blood testing into the picture. Pure and simple, Golden Boy
and Floyd and his advisers created the problem, and it ended up killing the fight.”
Dan Rafael from ESPN:
“Mayweather shouldn’t be making accusations without a shred of proof as he tries to discredit all of Pacquiao’s great accomplishments, nor should he try to circumvent the Nevada rules by asking for blood tests when the commission has never asked for them.”
Thomas Hauser, HBO.com:
“There were times during the past month when the conduct of Team
Mayweather had the look of an effort to sabotage the fight. A negotiator who wants to make a deal doesn’t go out of his way to antagonize and publicly embarrass the other side. But that’s
what the Mayweathers and Golden Boy did.”
Jim Strickland, David Diaz’s Trainer/retired licensed pharmacist:
“I don’t see any reason of accusing Manny of using illegal drugs in our fight.”
Timothy Bradley, WBO/WBC Jr. Welterweight Champion:
“I don’t think Manny is on anything. He’s just on top of his game right now.”
James Toney, Multi division Champion:
“Who is Mayweather to ask for the tests? Why didn’t he ask Marquez? Manny’s not on ‘roids.”
Mike Silver, noted Boxing Historian:
“I think it fell apart because basically Mayweather never wanted to fight Pacquiao. He wants to continue and fight guys he can beat and fool the public.
Roy Jones, Jr.:
“Hell naw. Why change the rules on me? Because I’m coming up in
weight means I’m doing steroids? They’re giving you a test for that anyway. It would be something that would aggravate me because then after I beat you, I was on something, don’t play with me. Either you want to fight or you don’t want to fight.”
Jason jason jason…I can see you are not taking this news very well. Maybe you need a break. Honestly I sense anger in your article, pure emotion, and definately not holding back.
It’s so sad that you Pac fans find yourselves in this situation. But like I have been saying, you are fighting a losing battle. What Pacquiao did i.e. refusing an olympic-style drug test and walking away from $40 million, does not make sense.
If you found yourself making up excuses like “superstition” for Pacquiao, that should have been an alarm bell for you. You Pac fans need to take a rest from this.
Another way for floyd to hype up their future fight.
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And do you see how blind you are to your obsession with Mayweather?
I definitely agree with you in saying that thousands of athletes take drug tests.
But tell me if I’m wrong, isn’t the governing body of those sport demand blood tests hence those thousands of athletes taking them?
Until the day the boxing commision makes it their own rule that all boxers take these drug tests, then I clearly see no wrong in Paquiao’s part as he shows Mayweather he doesn’t get dictated by a boxer.
Money can talk trash until the cows come home, but the only thing that will get is him looking like a fool in the media and not a fight for the biggest purse he may EVER earn in his career.
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Poor noynoys says:
February 15, 2010 at 3:05 pm
lol, unreasonable to take a drug test?
oh wait, thousands of athletes take the same damn test and you don’t hear them crying and whining like Manny Pacquiao.
Your obsession with Pacquiao completely blinds you to the fact that this guy walked from a $40 million payday because of a drug test.
And somehow that doesn’t compute as ’suspicious’ in your books. smh.
bonito says:
February 15, 2010 at 2:32 pm
its Sad when you have to pump up pacquiao even as we know that he chose the weakest welterweight to fight .remember Shane Mosley were available before pacquiao chose joshua clottey ;Devon Alexzander;Timothy Bradely and Paul williams .
DID PACQUIAO DUCK THESE FIGHTERS OR give me your best excuse for pacquiao not fighting anyone of those fighters .
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Don’t you hate it when dumb posters get on here? Bonito, Mosley was scheduled to fight Berto when Pac signed on to fight Clottey. At least, get your facts straight. Stop spewing out lies like the Mayweathers.
It really is a shame to see Money go down like this. He will only be remembered as one of the best fighters who ducked the rest. You can’t blame the fans if they lose respect for him because it is quite obvious that he doesn’t respect any of his fans.
He really is better off going back to retirement than see him go senile in the media.
lol, Mosley is past prime?
So Roach wouldn’t let Manny fight a ‘past prime’ Mosley unless he did the Ethiopia diet and drained himself down to 142 (quoted in the press, don’t even try to deny that one little pactards).
But Manny’s willing to fight Mr. I-have-a-hard-time-making-147 and struggle with stamina in the later rounds, Joshua Clottey at 147?
Funny how history will remember Pacquiao as not Henry Armstrong but Cherry Armstrong, because that boy got his cherry-picking basket with him at all times.
lol, unreasonable to take a drug test?
oh wait, thousands of athletes take the same damn test and you don’t hear them crying and whining like Manny Pacquiao.
Your obsession with Pacquiao completely blinds you to the fact that this guy walked from a $40 million payday because of a drug test.
And somehow that doesn’t compute as ‘suspicious’ in your books. smh.
It was actually easier for Pacquiao when he decided not to fight the best fighter there is in Mayweather. He should have taken the fight, not to prove Mayweather wrong, but to convince his fans that he’s not on steroids. If Pacquiao believes blood test will make him weak, than he should also believe that it would have made Mayweather weak as well. Sounds like an even playing field to me.
Now look at all the folk NOW saying Mosley is past is prime, and he is FORCED to fight Mosley. When will the excuses stop? lol, its crazy how some folk are sooo against Mayweather that it blocks their logical thinking. I know some of yall are smarter than that…LOL!!!
It’s just a question of who needs who..
He’s taking the greater risk than pac, by taking on mosely–who pac and Roach clearly ducked. If he wins, he should get the edge in the negotiations…plain and simple. If it were the other way around, nobody would argue with that. But, I belive they can get the split back to 50/50. However, pac is not gonna accept—for any one of his plethora of reasons–the unlimited, random blood testing. But, they may work their way back to 14 days again.
With the economy shutting down…I can’t sympathize with these multi-millionaires crying for more money….Floyd will be tarnished & forgotten forever and when anyone brings his name up in the future it will known as Chicken Froyd……….
Pacquiao had the opportunity to fight Mosley; why didn’t he seize it? Your article is heavily biased towards Pacquiao, so try to show more balance in your next article. I agree that Mayweather seems to be making some demands which could be construed as unreasonable, but this could be just his way of trying to gain a psychological edge in the anticipated negotiation with Pacquiao for a fight. Mayweather is a master salesman, but a realistic one. Don’t expect him to relent on the blood issue, but he will return to the 50-50 split of the purse.
Pacquiao doesn’t have to fight Mayweather in order to prove his worth. Pacquiao should just move on, forget about this Big Mouth chicken. If Floyd is really the “best”, he would have stepped in the ring with the PacMan without all the hoopla and mumbo-jumbo about blood testing. Isn’t it somehow ironic, that a guy who calls himself “the best” can’t face an opponent without attaching 1,001 conditions to a fight?! If he believes he’s unbeatable, why not just face Pacquiao? Don’t just talk, Floyd – JUST DO IT!
Mayweather would lose the fight against pac, he has dodged fighters for years. He deliberately put off Mosley until now (and lets be honest, hes a bit past it) – what will he achieve by beating him? answer, nothing… Now what would he achieve by beating pacquiao, quite a lot. Floyd needs someone to slap him round the head and let him know that Pacquiao wont listen to these demands, he is a world class pound for pound champion, there needs to be some give and take, and it seems all floyd wants to do is demand and take.
again greed and envy got a better of floyd!i think there’s no need for pacquiao to fight floyd!there’s a lot of exciting fighters in boxing and floyd is not of them!floyd…when pacquiao walked away from 25m it is called honor and respect.unlike you who only boxed for the money,greed and envy.
So not only is he still hiding behind amateur testing, but now he’s pricing himself out of the fight too… a month before Pacquiao fights Clottey… 3 months before he (supposedly) will fight Shane? Setting the foundations early for a nice ducking strategy, huh?
I hope this clown retires again, for real this time (not just to avoid the top welters again). Something tells me a convenient ‘rib injury’ will crop up around March 14th that will force the Mosley fight to be postponed indefinitely.
its Sad when you have to pump up pacquiao even as we know that he chose the weakest welterweight to fight .remember Shane Mosley were available before pacquiao chose joshua clottey ;Devon Alexzander;Timothy Bradely and Paul williams .
DID PACQUIAO DUCK THESE FIGHTERS OR give me your best excuse for pacquiao not fighting anyone of those fighters .
when do we learn from mayweather’s hilarious demands and reasons to avoid fighters he would lose? he was forced by circumstances to fight shane mosley, who by the way will not be as quick and powerful since he knocked out margacheato. even up to this day, i dont believe may 1st would happen, there maybe another excuse coming from floyd especially when pac-clottey did good in ppv. he’s using pacquaio’s name nowadays, being jealous and envious of whatever attention pac is getting in the US. dont believe floyd!
hey!Floyd jr and sr.,this is for you (father and son),It`s not time ,to make a blablabla!,just sit down,take it easy,you`re still chickens,that`s your faults,there`s so much you have to know who is Pacman now?after Philippine election,he will be sitting in “congress”,and you Mayweathers,remains American Chicken nuggets!ohh,,hahahaha
Greed is not a virtue….Manny is a peoples CHAMPION…that is a virtue……….For All Time……..aloha
What an @$$!!! Floyd’s excuse for Pacquiao Cotto doing better than his fight with Marquez was because Pacquiao had a “dance partner”. Now that Floyd has a better a “dance partner” in Shane Mosley, all of a sudden he deserves a bigger purse split. Floyd is an absolute joke to me now and I consider myself a very unbiased boxing fan.
More dangerous then Shane Mosley? You must be smoking sherm. Mosley is taking the test. What excuse will Manny have after this fight? Manny is only a factor to those who make excuses to do the right thing.
Mayweather will continue to put up barriers to stop this fight from happening. Pacquiao is certainly the most dangerous fighter Mayweather will ever face and i believe he is scared of losing his ’0′.