Comments on: How would Calzaghe have done against a young Jones and Hopkins? http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:27:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Maz http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-126008 Maz Mon, 15 Feb 2010 03:01:55 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-126008 Of this article's several doubtful points, the giant hole sucking it all down is in this sentence: "I think Calzaghe was pretty much the same fighter he was in his earlier years of his career." The author seems unaware that young Joe could hit hard enuf to put his opponents' butts on the floor, and even dim their lights. Gosh, I think there might be some connection between (a) repeated hand injuries due to hard hitting, and (b) his later reputation for not hitting hard at all (tho Lacy, Kessler & Jones, among others, might dispute it). Of this article’s several doubtful points, the giant hole sucking it all down is in this sentence: “I think Calzaghe was pretty much the same fighter he was in his earlier years of his career.”

The author seems unaware that young Joe could hit hard enuf to put his opponents’ butts on the floor, and even dim their lights. Gosh, I think there might be some connection between (a) repeated hand injuries due to hard hitting, and (b) his later reputation for not hitting hard at all (tho Lacy, Kessler & Jones, among others, might dispute it).

]]> By: stu http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120639 stu Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:57:15 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120639 ash: rjj & b-hop refused to fight joe calzaghe. fact. b-hop was offered £3m...accepted it...then demanded double the money to go through with the fight. when he didn't get it...he walked away. rjj was offered £6m twice to fight calzaghe in vegas with calzaghe coming up in weight. he turned it down twice to fight telesco & kelly for less money. after the telesco fight he was asked about calzaghe & said "why should i fight someone unbeaten, young & hungry when there are easier fights out there?" at that exact moment we all realised that rjj was a slimy piece of sh*t willing to fight fight part time boxers like frazier, thornton, kelly & hall & shot boxers like maccallum & hill for easy money rather than face decent opposition. fact. they avoided calzaghe. when he faced them he beat them. facts. anything else: speculation. ash:

rjj & b-hop refused to fight joe calzaghe. fact.

b-hop was offered £3m…accepted it…then demanded double the money to go through with the fight. when he didn’t get it…he walked away.

rjj was offered £6m twice to fight calzaghe in vegas with calzaghe coming up in weight. he turned it down twice to fight telesco & kelly for less money. after the telesco fight he was asked about calzaghe & said “why should i fight someone unbeaten, young & hungry when there are easier fights out there?” at that exact moment we all realised that rjj was a slimy piece of sh*t willing to fight fight part time boxers like frazier, thornton, kelly & hall & shot boxers like maccallum & hill for easy money rather than face decent opposition. fact.

they avoided calzaghe. when he faced them he beat them. facts. anything else: speculation.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120553 Anonymous Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:13:49 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120553 Americans please!!!!! Bhop and jones arnt the legends what you make out im afraid. SUPER JOE WAS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!! AND SPANKED THEM BOTH WITH BRITTLE HANDS IN JOES PRIME HE WOULD HAVE HURT THEM EVEN MORE. Americans please!!!!!

Bhop and jones arnt the legends what you make out im afraid.

SUPER JOE WAS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!

AND SPANKED THEM BOTH WITH BRITTLE HANDS IN JOES PRIME HE WOULD HAVE HURT THEM EVEN MORE.

]]> By: Kid Dynamite http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120510 Kid Dynamite Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:39:01 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120510 Mike who is on about emotional or physical?? we talking about the statment you made (like most ex boxers make, UNLESS YOU BOXED YOU DONT KNOW) and i think sugar does know more about boxing than the majority boxers...as do a few pro trainers out there that have never thrown a punch in a boxing ring. Mike
who is on about emotional or physical?? we talking about the statment you made (like most ex boxers make, UNLESS YOU BOXED YOU DONT KNOW) and i think sugar does know more about boxing than the majority boxers…as do a few pro trainers out there that have never thrown a punch in a boxing ring.

]]> By: Jimmy M. http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120343 Jimmy M. Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:19:16 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120343 ...i think clazaghe isn't a great fighter...he is okay..and i mean OKAY..yeah he beat hopkins, but i believe it could of either way...and jones was past his prime he needs to retire...jef lacy is just a big block of muscle... thats about it..he suck in my opinion...so that really not a big deal if calzaghe beat any of them..what i do give points for calzaghe is that he throws alot of punches..thats cool .../ ; but calzaghe not the best or good...he is okay.. …i think clazaghe isn’t a great fighter…he is okay..and i mean OKAY..yeah he beat hopkins, but i believe it could of either way…and jones was past his prime he needs to retire…jef lacy is just a big block of muscle… thats about it..he suck in my opinion…so that really not a big deal if calzaghe beat any of them..what i do give points for calzaghe is that he throws alot of punches..thats cool …/ ; but calzaghe not the best or good…he is okay..

]]> By: stu http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120278 stu Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:22:11 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120278 we'll never know cos they both avoided him. & when he did face them...he beat them. thems the facts. anything else is speculation. we’ll never know cos they both avoided him.

& when he did face them…he beat them.

thems the facts. anything else is speculation.

]]> By: King Rupert III http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120175 King Rupert III Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:22:41 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120175 He would have still beat Hopkins whenever they fought imo. Hopkins game plan was all wrong for the calzaghe fight he tried to spoil, in years previous he came to fight more whats key is Nazim Richardson was abesnt from his corner against calzaghe and i think that resulted in his negativity. Ultimatly had hopkins come forward more calzaghe would have outboxed him without doubt and had it been earlier calzaghe would have been faster and hit harder (as his hands wouldnt have been knackered as much) which would have been a wide UD win to calzaghe. RJJ is a different story all together. In both their primes RJJ would have schooled calzaghe, joe avoided him for years had he fought him in the 90's he would have been KO'd for sure. Fact is Calzaghe fought RJJ 10 years to late. The same as Hopkins vs Jones II is happening 15years too late to be meaningful. He would have still beat Hopkins whenever they fought imo. Hopkins game plan was all wrong for the calzaghe fight he tried to spoil, in years previous he came to fight more whats key is Nazim Richardson was abesnt from his corner against calzaghe and i think that resulted in his negativity.

Ultimatly had hopkins come forward more calzaghe would have outboxed him without doubt and had it been earlier calzaghe would have been faster and hit harder (as his hands wouldnt have been knackered as much) which would have been a wide UD win to calzaghe.

RJJ is a different story all together. In both their primes RJJ would have schooled calzaghe, joe avoided him for years had he fought him in the 90′s he would have been KO’d for sure. Fact is Calzaghe fought RJJ 10 years to late. The same as Hopkins vs Jones II is happening 15years too late to be meaningful.

]]> By: Chris Kelly http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120171 Chris Kelly Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:11:43 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120171 Mike most people on here are or have been boxers, your not special get over it Mike most people on here are or have been boxers, your not special get over it

]]> By: jack evans http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120156 jack evans Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:17:20 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120156 all say wot you want americans avoided our joe because they new he was very dangerous until he was top draw then they thought he was shot so they wanted a piece ov him he had it all. they say hopkins was old look wot he did 2 pavlik . and jones 2 lacy . joe was the best he had it all and he beet them 2 with dodgy hands if they fought years ago he would ov stopped the 2 ov them with good hands . 2 much guts. skill . an iron chin n stamina . if he was english or american hed b a god all admit he was d best n hes our welsh hero he stands alone No ordinary Joe as chris eubank would say simply the best he said it was an honour to lose 2 such a warrior . all say wot you want americans avoided our joe because they new he was very dangerous until he was top draw then they thought he was shot so they wanted a piece ov him he had it all. they say hopkins was old look wot he did 2 pavlik . and jones 2 lacy . joe was the best he had it all and he beet them 2 with dodgy hands if they fought years ago he would ov stopped the 2 ov them with good hands . 2 much guts. skill . an iron chin n stamina . if he was english or american hed b a god all admit he was d best n hes our welsh hero he stands alone No ordinary Joe as chris eubank would say simply the best he said it was an honour to lose 2 such a warrior .

]]> By: xAUGUSTUSx http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120144 xAUGUSTUSx Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:52:45 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120144 Well this writer has to understand that Calzaghe would have been younger aswell. I think to many people pay too much attention to the B-Hop fight. People act like thats how he's always looked his whole career. I find that Calzaghe unfairly gets compared to his fight with B-Hop. Hopkins can make anyone look bad and we all know this. I think if you just say that Calzaghe is garbage based on that one fight then you're being just plain ignorant. Well this writer has to understand that Calzaghe would have been younger aswell. I think to many people pay too much attention to the B-Hop fight. People act like thats how he’s always looked his whole career. I find that Calzaghe unfairly gets compared to his fight with B-Hop. Hopkins can make anyone look bad and we all know this. I think if you just say that Calzaghe is garbage based on that one fight then you’re being just plain ignorant.

]]> By: Mike http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120134 Mike Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:31:17 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120134 Bert Sugar knows more about boxing than boxers do? LOL Bert Sugar is a boxing historian and says things all the time that are questionable! To truly understand what a boxer is going through emotionally and physically when they are tired,hurt,and struggling is something that NO MAN can truly understand unless he has been there! Anyone can observe and give their two cents but will NOT understand how thinking is affected in the heat of the moment unless they have been in a tough fight! themselves! Bert Sugar knows more about boxing than boxers do? LOL
Bert Sugar is a boxing historian and says things all the time that are questionable! To truly understand what a boxer is going through emotionally and physically when they are tired,hurt,and struggling is something that NO MAN can truly understand unless he has been there! Anyone can observe and give their two cents but will NOT understand how thinking is affected in the heat of the moment unless they have been in a tough fight!
themselves!

]]> By: don@london http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120089 don@london Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:30:34 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120089 Joe asainst Jones is a very hard one to call, as mentioned in this article Joes early opposition wasn't elite but then neither was Jones'. A lot of Jones' early opposition had day jobs and when he did step up in class it went downhill pretty rapidly but that said he did look great in those days! Joe asainst Jones is a very hard one to call, as mentioned in this article Joes early opposition wasn’t elite but then neither was Jones’. A lot of Jones’ early opposition had day jobs and when he did step up in class it went downhill pretty rapidly but that said he did look great in those days!

]]> By: Sean P http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120070 Sean P Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:25:37 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120070 Im a Calzaghe fan, so it's hard not to be biased. I think he could of beat a younger Hopkins, and maybe had a go at Roy Jones. But it's all speculation and we will NEVER no for sure; no matter how much these 'experts' try to persuade us. Im a Calzaghe fan, so it’s hard not to be biased. I think he could of beat a younger Hopkins, and maybe had a go at Roy Jones. But it’s all speculation and we will NEVER no for sure; no matter how much these ‘experts’ try to persuade us.

]]> By: Chris Kelly http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120049 Chris Kelly Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:08:15 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120049 Mike, I have boxed, I like to think I'm pretty good aswell. But thats regardless, I know what I'm talking about and the BHop fight was close, thats why it was a split decision! I never said that Joe lost, I just said that it was close. Mike, I have boxed, I like to think I’m pretty good aswell. But thats regardless, I know what I’m talking about and the BHop fight was close, thats why it was a split decision! I never said that Joe lost, I just said that it was close.

]]> By: calzaghe fan http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/02/how-would-calzaghe-have-done-against-a-young-jones-and-hopkins/#comment-120020 calzaghe fan Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:29:09 +0000 http://www.boxingnews24.com/?p=21898#comment-120020 Fair enough a young jones would maybe have beat calzaghe but thats not for sure. On the other hand I think a younger hopkins would have been easier to beat than the 43 yr old hopkins. Calzaghe would have beat him in a UD. Fair enough a young jones would maybe have beat calzaghe but thats not for sure. On the other hand I think a younger hopkins would have been easier to beat than the 43 yr old hopkins. Calzaghe would have beat him in a UD.

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