How would Calzaghe have done against a young Jones and Hopkins?
February 6th, 2010
By William Mackay: Recently, I read an article by a writer that seemed to be gloating about the fact that former World Boxing Organization super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe had beaten both Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins during his career. The writer of the article fails to mention that Hopkins was 43 at the time he fought Calzaghe while Jones was a ripe 39-years-old. Calzaghe ended up winning a controversial 12 round split decision over Hopkins in their April 2008 fight, a bout that could very well have gone the other way.
I think Calzaghe was pretty much the same fighter he was in his earlier years of his career. If anything, Calzaghe probably was a better fighter at this point because he had finally started to step it up in terms of the level of his competition during the latter part of his career. From 1993 to 2006, perhaps the best opponents that Calzaghe faced during that time period was Miguel Angel Jimenez, Byron Mitchell, Charles Brewer, Richie Woodhall, Omar Sheika, Mario Veit, Chris Eubank, David Starie, and Robin Reid. Those were all good fighters, but not the kind of fighters that I would consider anywhere close to being comparable to a prime Jones and Hopkins.
In 2006, Calzaghe started stepping up the level of opposition, facing Jeff Lacy, Sakio Bika, Mikkel Kessler and Hopkins. Jones, by this time in his career, was a shell of the fighter he once was. Still, Calzaghe chose to fight him anyway. Jones has been stopped by Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver in 2004, and soundly beaten by Tarver again in a rematch in 2005.
So how would Calzaghe have done against a prime Jones and Hopkins? In my view, not very good. I don’t really care at what point Calzaghe fought them. Even in Calzaghe’s prime of his career, which I feel was at the very end of it. I think Calzaghe would be hopelessly outclassed by both Hopkins and Jones. I think a younger Hopkins would have had too much power on his shots, and would have given Calzaghe big problems with his inside game.
Calzaghe barely beat an old 43-year-old Hopkins. You can only imagine what the outcome had been if Hopkins was 10 to 15 years younger at the time that he fought Calzaghe. And as for Jones, I think he would totally dominated Calzaghe if Roy was in his 20s, and I can’t see Calzaghe landing a glove on him. A young Jones was faster than Calzaghe, hit harder and was very difficult to hit. I know Calzaghe fans take pride in the fact that Calzaghe was capable of throwing 1000 punches per fight.
However, that crowding style of fighting that Calzaghe used would have been pretty much useless against a fast mover like Jones. I think Calzaghe would have been following Jones around all night long, getting picked off with shots that he would have problems seeing. I think Jones would have knocked Calzaghe down multiple times and stopped him by the 6th or 7th rounds.
As it was, the 39-year-old Jones was still good enough to put Calzaghe down in the 1st round of their fight. And I think Hopkins would have beaten Calzaghe by a lopsided 12 round decision. Hopkins probably wouldn’t have stopped Calzaghe, but he would have likely beaten him up pretty badly.
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Of this article’s several doubtful points, the giant hole sucking it all down is in this sentence: “I think Calzaghe was pretty much the same fighter he was in his earlier years of his career.”
The author seems unaware that young Joe could hit hard enuf to put his opponents’ butts on the floor, and even dim their lights. Gosh, I think there might be some connection between (a) repeated hand injuries due to hard hitting, and (b) his later reputation for not hitting hard at all (tho Lacy, Kessler & Jones, among others, might dispute it).
ash:
rjj & b-hop refused to fight joe calzaghe. fact.
b-hop was offered £3m…accepted it…then demanded double the money to go through with the fight. when he didn’t get it…he walked away.
rjj was offered £6m twice to fight calzaghe in vegas with calzaghe coming up in weight. he turned it down twice to fight telesco & kelly for less money. after the telesco fight he was asked about calzaghe & said “why should i fight someone unbeaten, young & hungry when there are easier fights out there?” at that exact moment we all realised that rjj was a slimy piece of sh*t willing to fight fight part time boxers like frazier, thornton, kelly & hall & shot boxers like maccallum & hill for easy money rather than face decent opposition. fact.
they avoided calzaghe. when he faced them he beat them. facts. anything else: speculation.
stu says:
February 7, 2010 at 7:22 pm
we’ll never know cos they both avoided him.
& when he did face them…he beat them.
thems the facts. anything else is speculation.
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Only 1 fact there Stu my man, silly boy…
Americans please!!!!!
Bhop and jones arnt the legends what you make out im afraid.
SUPER JOE WAS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!
AND SPANKED THEM BOTH WITH BRITTLE HANDS IN JOES PRIME HE WOULD HAVE HURT THEM EVEN MORE.
Mike
who is on about emotional or physical?? we talking about the statment you made (like most ex boxers make, UNLESS YOU BOXED YOU DONT KNOW) and i think sugar does know more about boxing than the majority boxers…as do a few pro trainers out there that have never thrown a punch in a boxing ring.
…i think clazaghe isn’t a great fighter…he is okay..and i mean OKAY..yeah he beat hopkins, but i believe it could of either way…and jones was past his prime he needs to retire…jef lacy is just a big block of muscle… thats about it..he suck in my opinion…so that really not a big deal if calzaghe beat any of them..what i do give points for calzaghe is that he throws alot of punches..thats cool …/ ; but calzaghe not the best or good…he is okay..
we’ll never know cos they both avoided him.
& when he did face them…he beat them.
thems the facts. anything else is speculation.
He would have still beat Hopkins whenever they fought imo. Hopkins game plan was all wrong for the calzaghe fight he tried to spoil, in years previous he came to fight more whats key is Nazim Richardson was abesnt from his corner against calzaghe and i think that resulted in his negativity.
Ultimatly had hopkins come forward more calzaghe would have outboxed him without doubt and had it been earlier calzaghe would have been faster and hit harder (as his hands wouldnt have been knackered as much) which would have been a wide UD win to calzaghe.
RJJ is a different story all together. In both their primes RJJ would have schooled calzaghe, joe avoided him for years had he fought him in the 90’s he would have been KO’d for sure. Fact is Calzaghe fought RJJ 10 years to late. The same as Hopkins vs Jones II is happening 15years too late to be meaningful.
Mike most people on here are or have been boxers, your not special get over it
all say wot you want americans avoided our joe because they new he was very dangerous until he was top draw then they thought he was shot so they wanted a piece ov him he had it all. they say hopkins was old look wot he did 2 pavlik . and jones 2 lacy . joe was the best he had it all and he beet them 2 with dodgy hands if they fought years ago he would ov stopped the 2 ov them with good hands . 2 much guts. skill . an iron chin n stamina . if he was english or american hed b a god all admit he was d best n hes our welsh hero he stands alone No ordinary Joe as chris eubank would say simply the best he said it was an honour to lose 2 such a warrior .
Well this writer has to understand that Calzaghe would have been younger aswell. I think to many people pay too much attention to the B-Hop fight. People act like thats how he’s always looked his whole career. I find that Calzaghe unfairly gets compared to his fight with B-Hop. Hopkins can make anyone look bad and we all know this. I think if you just say that Calzaghe is garbage based on that one fight then you’re being just plain ignorant.
Bert Sugar knows more about boxing than boxers do? LOL
Bert Sugar is a boxing historian and says things all the time that are questionable! To truly understand what a boxer is going through emotionally and physically when they are tired,hurt,and struggling is something that NO MAN can truly understand unless he has been there! Anyone can observe and give their two cents but will NOT understand how thinking is affected in the heat of the moment unless they have been in a tough fight!
themselves!
Joe asainst Jones is a very hard one to call, as mentioned in this article Joes early opposition wasn’t elite but then neither was Jones’. A lot of Jones’ early opposition had day jobs and when he did step up in class it went downhill pretty rapidly but that said he did look great in those days!
Im a Calzaghe fan, so it’s hard not to be biased. I think he could of beat a younger Hopkins, and maybe had a go at Roy Jones. But it’s all speculation and we will NEVER no for sure; no matter how much these ‘experts’ try to persuade us.
Mike, I have boxed, I like to think I’m pretty good aswell. But thats regardless, I know what I’m talking about and the BHop fight was close, thats why it was a split decision! I never said that Joe lost, I just said that it was close.
Fair enough a young jones would maybe have beat calzaghe but thats not for sure. On the other hand I think a younger hopkins would have been easier to beat than the 43 yr old hopkins. Calzaghe would have beat him in a UD.
Dear me please. Calzaghe struggled against Hopkins? Hopkins was the one blowing out of his arsehole and trying every trick in the book to get a rest as he simple could not keep up with the pace and he would of struggled even if he was 10 or 15 years younger fact!! Do you think Joe got fitter as he got older? He was 36 at the time of the fight come on!!. As for Jones he was a class act as a younger man but that was at the lower weight (middle) against people he could beat ie he picked alot of his fights a little like Mayweather. Jones got exposed against Johnson and then beat by and ordinary Tarver not only once but twice. I will give it Jones was a complete shell when Joe fought him but you can only fight whats in front of you and he did and won the fight its history so lets move on.
Now that I think about it Danny Green would smash Joe and Bernard. He is 36 years old and knocked Roy out in the first round. Do the math.
Roy jones would have probably beat calzagne at his peak nobody could argue against this.Although Jones did avoid Joe for years as he would have regonised that joe was a true threat.This is what annoys me about boxing where so called champs can avoid and pick and choose the easy fights(Mayweather for example).Jones was a great fighter at his peak but people should not call Joe as he would of jumped at the chance of fighting Jones at his peak.Joe wasn’t a great fighter like Jones but he was a true champion.
i tottaly agree with this article they both would have beat him
calzaghe would have the fight more easier than he did. Because he would have been more younger to. Americans fans have been cheated of watching good boxers who refuse to fight in america. just like danny green has shown.australia boxing fans should be happy that roy jones shown some heart and boxed in austrailia against danny green who just come out of retirement that should show AMERICAN BOXING FANS HAVE BEEN CHEATED OF WATCHING REEL GOOD BOXERS WHO DONT FIGHT IN AMERICA UNTILL THE END OF THERE CAREER.
has there been a new law passed where once a month another repeat of a Joe Calzaghe article has to be brought back from the grave?
Who knows how hed of done, its easy to look on paper and say a young Jones would of beat Calzaghe, but whats on paper and what really happens differs in reality as much as comes to be.
If that fight had ever happened at the right time and id had to make a bet id have my money on jones but i certainly wouldnt take it as a sure thing and i wouldnt be suprised if Calzaghe was able to tweak his game plan so it worked for him.
was i dont believe you are british and if you think hopkins schooled calzagne then you are biased…you dont fake getting hit low and hold and cower along the ropes when you are in command…its like an urban myth that hopkins really won that fight…maybe because hopkins made it so sloppy and dirty it was harder to judge for some…but to me it seemed hopkins was embarassed in that fight…
I cant believe people are having this debate. I m British and think Calazague was a great fighter, but to even think that e would come anywhere near Jones and Hopkins is truly ludicrous!
Neither of the fights proved anything about Calazgue, he was SCHOOLED by an older Hopkins and should have never have got that win. He won that fight on aggression and work rate alone. The Hopkins of the 90’s and eary 00’s would have murdered Calazague.
In regards to Jones, noone can argue JOnes was spent when he fought him, although i disagree with the statement that Calazague would not lay a glove on Jones i m sure what he did connect with would be minimal. Jones would destroy Calazguein his prime.
Its unfortunate we never got to see the fights earlier on in all three mens careers but i for one am convinced that Calazague would not be able to compete with the pair of them
these discussions are more about race, religion and nationality than sports…i think hopkins is a better fighter now than he was when he was 35…to begin with…i didnt see the fight as that close, hopkins was looking for a way out…now looking at joe, he was a big puncher before his many broken hands, so he was far from his prime as well…with a harder punching joe i think hopkins would have caved in…but i dont see joe beating jones in his prime, though you have to factor in that cal was almost as fast and hit hard once and jones never had a chin, hence why he took on taxi drivers in his prime, after a few rocky moments i see jones outpointing joe, i dont see anybody stopping him. thats just wishful thinking…both jones and hopkins caught him cold with a lucky punch, esp jones, and he didnt stay down…
chinquanto,
Please Calzaghe beating the young primed Roy Jones Jr is like saying Trevor Berbick could have beaten the young Cassius Clay A.K.A Muhammad Ali. That’s like saying Larry Holmes could have beaten the G.O.A.T. (Muhammad Ali) in his prime. That’s just simply impossible.
Jones was just too fast and too quick and had good pop on his punches. There is just no way he loses in his prime…. It’s just simply impossible…
Roy Jones was never a warrior he fought all bums and when he fought guys that could fight he got knocked out, he couldnt ride in the same elevator as Joe
ANON
You can’t be serious!!! Bhop would have outsmarted Calzaghe and shut him out like he did Tito.
As far as Roy Jones goes it would have been total humiliation. Couldn’t nobody touch Roy back in the day. He would have busted Calzaghe up while doing his “chicken dance”.
Calzaghe could up his game to beat anyone at any time. A solid chin, but not much power in his punches. However, he was probaby one of the best point scorers of all times – and unless anyone could knock him out, they would never beat him on punches thrown / landed. Never ever – He was super super fit, and could punch in the 12th at the same rate as the 1st. Bhop was offered Calzaghe years ago, but wouldnt negotiate.
Calzaghe was a lot better than most believe, and most believe he was awesome.
Calzgahe did what he had to do to beat any of his a opponents. RJJ was well shot at the end, and still is. This was more of a tick box/ warm down fught for Super Joe.
KenD, those who can write, write and those who can’t or don’t want to, read….and then they are free to may a comment Thanks for the comment!LOL!
The last time I checked this was a free site with people responding from all over the world. Nobody, I said nobody is forcing anybody to read what is written nor to agree with it. It is a forum to voice an opinion whether it is a good one or not. I have no idea if mine is good or bad but at least I got you to respond. Not sure if you liked or hated it. LOL! Besides, if we had better use of our time we would not be here anyway agreed? LOL!
Calzaghe was being avoided because he wasnt known & was dangerous, young RJJ would have taken anyone but Calzaghe would have been an excllent fight. Bhop would have lost,narrowly & cried about it. 3 great fighters though & its a pity but they did meet eventually all past their best
calzaghe beat both jones and hopkins easy, make all the excuses you want but thats the facts. jones was like mayweather, aviods all the top fighters and claims hes the best p4p. gets dones for steroids and never the same fighter again. hopkins big wins were against smaller welterweights de la hoya and trinidad. both got as kicked no excuses
Sakio Bika IS Categorically nowhere near as good as any of the better fighters you have mentioned there. Eubank would have taken him to the trenches and won.
As you’ve said Calzaghe was no spring chicken when he beat them both and I’m confident he’d have beaten them both at the peak of their careers when Calzaghe himself was also younger, fitter and had less brittle hands.
The thing about Calzaghe is that he’s a winner and he raises his performance when required.
Jones was definately past his best when they finally met, but the outcome would still have been a Calzaghe victory had they met years earlier – Jones struggles against fighters that throw lots of punches, not allowing him to take frequent breaks and as for Hopkins, his far from entertaining style designed to spoil and negate the opponents strengths is just as effective now as it was 15 years ago, which is why he still fighting at 43, so again Calzaghe would have been victorious.
Hopkins boxed for 30seconds and held for the rest of the round. Calzaghe beat him in The USA. There were a lot of fighters that ducked Calzaghe. I dont know what kind of wierd mind thinks up the stuff you come up with? Your wierd articles are up and down this website. I suggest you stop taking the medicine as it is not working.
Rubbish article, completley disregarding that Calzaghe was nearly 37 when he fought both Hokins and Jones Jr and by that time his hands were riddled with injuries. Hopkins hadnt fought anyone special during his middleweight reign, just american names and two beefed up welterweight champs in De La Hoya and Trinidad. Just remember that Hopkins met Winky Wright and Pavlik at a catchweight but made Joe fight at light-heavy, out of fear. Joe won his fight with Hopkins and anyone who feels that he didnt should go and watch WWE.
What a suprise OLI bashing a another brit.
Why dont you go there and live in the usa you turncoat!!!!!!!!!!!
joe called out jones in his prime and he rejected plain and simple.
He also avoided nigel benn oli.
Get real fellas, Joe was no spring chicken himself! B-POP turned a fight down with Joe seven years ago over money, or so he claims! Joe beat B-POP pure and simple, Hopkins tried to cheat his way though the fight with Joe. B-POP just does the same old same, old when he gets beat, he dissmisses his loss as a win. Before that fight the US had Pavlik down to knock Joe out! What did B-POP do to Pavlik? I think B-POP has now proved himself as a bum by fighting Roy Jones 17 years after he got his ass kicked. This is the fight that should go down as a discrace.
HA HA HA HA
LEX ARE YOU STILL ON THE WACKY BACKY LMAO.
YOU TALK AS SUPER JOE WAS 25 WHEN HE SCHOOLED SPOILER BHOP.
TOO MUCH WORK RATE THATS WHAT WON ALOT OF JOES FIGHTS HE TOOK AWAY HIS OPPONENTS HEARTS ESPEACIALLY JONES.
HA HA HA HA HA
LEX YOU MAKE ME CHUCKLE STICK TO SOCCER MY FREIND.
waynelord,you need to find youself a job-far too much time spent blathering on this site!
Mike,You just sound like a complete tool “how many on here have even boxed a round”. What an idiot you’ve proved yourself to be.
As for Calzaghe vs Jones/Hopkins-No chance against a prime Jones,we all (surely)know that?! As for B’Hop-v/unlkely although Joe has a great chin,workrate and general stamina.The fact that a faded B’Hop took him so close is a worry.
@ kal el
Ur dreamin son super joe could not be beaten.
Only man boxer who i no who would stand toe to toe with any boxer knowin full well he didnt have the same power as his opponent.He always came to fight.
B-hop would have destroyed Calzaghe. The only way hopkins lost was because he started to get worn out. But, some on here apperently think being 43 had nothing to do with that. Calzaghe was a great fighter, but he avoided fighting the best until they were old and shells of their former self. Anyone that thinks Calzaghe was better than Hopkins probably thinks Berbick was better than Ali too. Why did joe not fight in the states where he would have made over twice as much money in all his fights until Hopkins and Jones were so old??? The best win Calzaghe has on his record is probably against a 43 year old. If the toughest fight of your career was against a 43 year old, you are not an ATG. Hopkins is.
Calzaghe would have lost a lopsided decision to a young BHOP. He would have been embarrassed and knocked silly by a young Roy Jones Jr in his prime.. Roy Jones Jr was a very very badddddddd man in his prime. It was hard to imagine anyone coming close to beating Jones in his day…..
mike
a lot of you boxers say that….i must be the only exception…but you dont need to have boxed to know about boxing do ya???
dunno if im 100% correct but did bert sugar fight?? i think not but he knows a hell of a lot more than you so called boxers….
in conclusion you dont need to box to know bout boxing….CMON simon cowell knows talent when he sees it but he cant sing 4 sh*t…
If you think hopkins would have won an osscar, i agree with you. A boxing match? Don’t think so. Jones vs Calzaghe would have been a very close fight probably a close UD either way. Calzaghe was never beaten once even when he had to fight with one had. FYI the punch that put calzaghe down was a forearm not a glove.
Chris Kelly
I suggest you watch the Bhop and Cal fight again,it was NOT that close! Sure Bhop landed the harder shots but Cal clearly outpointed him and even outslicked him!
So many of you talk like you know sooo much about boxing,how many here have even boxed a single round?
If’s and but’s, that all i hear from you lot. Calzaghe beat them all. We heard so much bulls**t before the Lacy fight and look how Calzaghe destroyed him, embarassed him and since that fight Lacy has never been the same fighter.
46 – 0 Enough said!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bhop is going to go down as an ATG at the highest honours,Jones does NOT!
Jones may qualify but the historians are gonna remember his refusing to go fight the top contenders when he was light heavyweight champion.He also turned a deaf ear to Bhops pleas for a rematch and is only taking that road now because he has no other options!I will watch their fight but will NOT pay to see it.
I’m with the author, not as much on the hopkins front as I think he also has improved as his career has gone on (but I’ll acknowledge that the bout was extremly close) but the age did make a huge difference to the Roy Jones Jr fight.
Roy may have only been a four years older than Joe but Jones’ style was all about speed and reflexes, he wasn’t at his best since his mid to late twenties, the Jones that beat Hopkins, James Toney, John Ruiz, Clinton Woods, Montell Griffon and Glen Kelly would have been far too much for the Welshman.
Even at the age of thirty Jones was a shaddow of his former self and the losses to Johnson and Tarver prove this. He was nowhere near his best when he fought Calzaghe.
Prime Jones was better than prime calzaghe
Kool
Cal won that fight fair and square! Bhop was outslicked for the first time in recent memory and has a hard time accepting that,as other apparently do to! Jones avoided the top fighters because of his glass jaw. I get the sense that most of the comments coming against white fighters are from black men. Guys listen,skin colour has NOTHING to do with how good a fighter you are,its how dedicated and how well you train along with natural ability! NO skin colour is genetically superiour to another when it comes to fighting,its individual!
KOOL
yeah jones had better career??
dont thinkso did you see his last fight??
Jones gets credit from me for steppin up to heavy weight and becoming champ but that was a high price to pay because when he came back down he wasnt the same fighter.
This author makes no sense at all!
Cal was 36 when he beat these guys,only a few years diference! Listen, “prime years” are NOT the same for everyone! Some guys can go through hell and still stay on top well into their 40’s,others are burn by the time their 30! Bhop has proven he is still in his prime or dam close to it. Jones is past his best but it’s NOT just because of his age! His shaky chin was exsposed years ago and now guys go right after him because they know if they catch him they have an excellent chance of knocking him out. Roy can’t play those dropping his hands ploy to keep guys at bay anymore!
Cal was avoided by many top american boxers over the years and only got his shot at them because they though he was a pertected,easy to beat white European boxer who was for the taking.They were both wrong and could easily have been beaten by Cal when they were ALL in their 20’s!
Unfortunately for the americans super joe would have beaten roy jones and bhop at any stage of his career he called them out in there prime and they rejected thats the truth.
Jones avoided the dark destroyer also.
joe calzaghe had too much pride and skill in the ring to be beaten look what happened to lacy he was made to look like an average fighter nobody stateside gave joe a chance.
And people who say bad chad dawson would beat him are dreamin he would be schooled just like lacy.
super super joe caaaallllzzzzzaggghhhee !!!!!!!!!!!!1
Number 1 people dont forget it.
calzaghe wouldn’t have had a chance against either of them. he thought they were both old enuff for him to beat and they both put his on his ass. i thought bhop won he did the more damgage during the fight and calslappy was scared to give him a rematch, and RJ got cut and his corner couldnt stop him from bleeding for sum reason so im sure he couldnt see.
but its in the pass now and calslappy was jus tryin to protect his record but at the end of the day RJ and bhop had a better career than calslappy he’s not even gonna go down as 1 of the best fighters of all time like RJ and bhop.
jon – A prime Jones v a prime Calzaghe would have been a classic. No-one can say who would have won because neither of them had fought anyone like the other. Calzaghe had such a perplexing style that you could not say for definite that one would have won.
tomo this one has nothing to do with being american, any neutral could see a prime roy jone would have gutted calzaghe
Get over it guy… Hopkins and Jones avoided Calzaghe when he first came onto the scene yet once he became P4P king and big money draw they wanted a piece of him. Typical american behaviour.
Calzaghe was stronger, faster and like a bull in his early days. Only his skills (similar to what happened with Hopkins) became more refined with age. Forget about Hopkins, Calzaghe would have beaten him at any time at any level.
Jones at his peak would have given Calzaghe problems for sure – for the first two or three rounds. As soon as Calzaghe found his range Jones would have been in trouble.
Calzaghe is unique, those who faced him will tell you that. He fought like no-one else and was unstoppable. To many people trying to protect themselves and their fighters did not want to know about him. Eubank had never been beaten up like that in his life, Collins and Benn did not want to know and Ottke, well… LOL.
Once the americans needed a payday they sought him out and he sorted them out. When he was young he was very, very dangerous. All facts, all true, stop trying justify your fallen heroes, they got beat, end of story.
so how do you explain hopkins v pavlik? to say hopkins was an old man is contradicted by what he did to him.
LOL calzaghe was old when he fought hopkins and jones too not much of an age difference. plus a fight against a younger jones and a younger calzaghe would’ve never happened, jones always avoid top tier fighters all throughout his career.
I say get this guy to do Olympic style drug testing. Random blood testing. He’s a questionable achiver. He must be using “a side meth” man. Urine can’t detect it except blood testing. Olympic style. LOL
Americans are so funny – they really don’t like the fact that a guy from the Welsh valleys destroyed one of their biggest up and coming stars (Lacy) and then went on to become undefeated and eliminate 2 American legends – back to back. Sorry guys – Calzaghe is the greatest