Would Marquez or Bradley been a better choice for Pacquiao?

IM CRAZY! FLOYD DOES NOT WANT THE FIGHT, SCARED OF SMALL FIGHTER!

Pacquiao v Marquez 3 sounds good but they at 2 completely different weights now, Marquez cant go above 135 and Pacquiao wont be coming back down. I dont think Bradley would stand a chance against Pac. He’s a welter now so he’s defending his title against a welter, a decent 1 at that, but he’ll still win. Where he goes next is the question, most people just want him to fight Mayweather

There’s a big chance Clottey will beat Pacquiao, this is what is interesting in this upcoming fight, Pacquiao will have a tough opponent – - at least the guy is taking the risk.

JMM is old news and Bradley should go and stand in the queue behind Mosley/Berto, Foreman, etc. etc. etc. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . FMJ

i think marquez and bradley are the lesser choices for manny.why go down in weight or blow up opponents.why fight someone smaller so that your critics would have a reason to pound you.if pacman and marquez meet halfway at 140-142 men it could be done.but the fact that marquez was out gunned in his last fight when he weighed at 142.i think that he cant take pacman’s power at this weight.its gonna be a cruel beating and it might send him to retirement.now on bradley 140 champ will bradley go up in weight???manny has to defend his welterweight belt rather than fight someone smaller.maybe you got used to floyd’s style of fighting smaller guys.well manny just showed floyd that real men dont pick on smaller guys.a thing that floyd has to consider fight someone your own size or someone bigger.not fighting someone smaller and asking for a level playing field.is that too much to understand???

I dont think Timothy Bradley can beat Manny Pacquiao. I can still remember the fight against Kendall Holt which he was knocked down in a one punch flash.

And Manny doesn’t just throw one, he throws at least five then circle the opponent then another five.

For me, I think that Team Pacquiao is just looking for a sub par, easy to beat Welter, beat him at 147 lbs, then brag that Pacquiao can indeed compete with a legit Welter.

And Joshua Clottey is just that.

Wow what a load of crap, Mayweather would have been fighter the coward pac man, all he had to do was have a blood test not have both his hands chopped off. All this has just proven the pac man is pumped to the teeth with STERIODS. Is that why you guys call him pac man because when he takes his pills he becomes superhuman and eats everyone up. Mayweather would have beaten him very easily anyway.

In picking your opponent you have a number of factors to consider. In no particular order and non-exhaustive:
1) What’s your payday? Greed aside, this is a *business*. You SHOULD be weighting pay fairly heavily during the limited years you can fight.
2) How much do you want to “test” yourself? You don’t go ridiculously hard where you think you’re gonna lose. You shouldn’t go too easy or you’ll be wasting time, make less $, and get criticised for not taking a tough fight.
3) Have you already fought this guy before and what were the results? Two losses or two wins against someone would tend to rule them out, even if close.
4) What conditions are there and how can you influence/control them? It makes logical business sense to use your clout to tilt the balance your way. Of course Manny will negotiate for a catchweight if he can get it. Of course May will come in over the catchweight if the penalty is minimal. Of course you will try to get testing/checking procedures if you think your opponent takes drugs or uses cement powder. Of course you will make claims and “ambit claims” (these are outrageous demands that you expect to get negotiated down) and raise red herrings in negotiations in order to “win” the conditions that you want. IMHO the boxing authorities should set most of the conditions and leave relatively few for the fighters’ camps to negotiate. One of these would be drug testing. There should be a single standard agreed by the various authorities as a single convening committee, representing both the key state authorities, national if appropriate, and the sanctioning bodies.

On balance, you tend to want to pick someone you can beat, look good while doing it, and make good money, without too much risk. These factors contradict/pull against each other. For example, you look great fighting a much bigger fighter, but your chance of losing is higher.

JMM gets ruled out as he has lost twice to Pac.

A smaller weaker fighter isn’t as attractive because losing to him would be embarrassing and if you win, you don’t get too much kudos or increased legacy value.

On the whole, seems to me Clottey is an “OK” choice in the absence of Mayweather or Mosley as options.

JMM fought Manny to a draw in their first fight and the vast majority of people who actually saw their second fight know JMM got robbed. Manny wasn’t the best at 130, and he hasn’t fought the best at any weight above that. I don’t see what weight class Manny would be the true champ in. Floyd, Mosley, Williams, Berto at 147. Bradley at 140. JMM at 135 or lower. Yea, you can say Manny beat JMM, but thats about as legitimate as Holyfield-Lewis being a draw.

Clottey at welter is a far tougher fight that JMM and Bradley. JMM is past it and Bradley doesn’t have the power to beat Paccy. As long as Clottey doesn’t get lazy and sit back against the ropes without throwing anything, he’ll give Paccy a tough scrap.

Yep, Daniel when Manny wants to fight someone he doesn’t make seven demands, including brand new rules. But when its floyd Manny can come up with myriad reasons not to fight. Clottey isn’t active enough or know how to counter punch to cause problems for Manny. Marquez and Bradley do. After Cintron and Mosley fall to Floyd, people will again start clamoring for Manny to step up to the plate. We will see if Manny ever faces a counter-puncher again. If he does, I will give him all the credit in the world. Until then, go on fight second-tier fighters, and let Pactards claim you are superman. Until they are reminded of JMM.

IM GOING FOR CLOTTEY BUT PAC MAN WILL WIN

both are weak opponents for Manny. No risk then no reward.
Manny is trying to improve his great legacy and Clottey poses a great challenge.

Manny is good but i can assured the boxing fratenity that Clottey is the real test for Manny. Being a Clottey fan if the judges are fair in this fight i can say confidently that Clottey will win. I believe Clottey will come into this fight knowing it to be his opportunity to be known in the welterweight division. Go Clottey and be prepared 200% against all odds. Praying with you as you train.

if clottey wins ill give him respect as one the top welterweights, until then how can i? He has lost every big fight he’s been in.

I read that marquez wont fight pac unless pac takes blood tests so thats not happening (would be one sided anyway).

I would like to see bradley fight pac, not necessarily more then clottey but maybe after this fight if the mosley/berto winner picks floyd. I think some people are underestimating bradley reading these comments.

And every boxing article I’ve read thinks Bradley is a much better fighter than Clottey. Really, trying to argue Clottey is better than Bradley? Next Pactards will be arguing the sun will rise in the west tomorrow!

Two counter punches or Clottey? This is a no-brainer for Manny, with Clottey he gets an easy win. Manny will never fight another counter puncher. ever. JMM showed what a decent counter puncher can do to Manny, but against opponents that come in head first or just curl up like Clottey Manny looks great. JMM was considered the better fighter after his second fight with Manny, but then an old-weight drained Oscar, an over-rated Hatton, and a shot Cotto somehow makes Manny great??? Only die-hard Pactards suggest Clottey is anything better than decent. This is why Manny ran from Floyd, he can continue to beat 2nd tier fighters and make good money. If Manny fought a counter puncher his popularity and appeal would drop dramatically and Arum and Manny know this.

@rob

i agree with you, clottey is an avoided welterweigh boxer, most if not all his loses have been dubious and he has certainly never been beaten out right like pacmans last opponants. This is a massive test for pacquiao and if he can beat a heavier welter boxer like clottey then hes definalty cemented his legacy. But saying that, from what ive read im in the minority, i think clottey is going to win.

Bradley, yes. Marquez? he got a chance beating Pacquiao…if he eat his own poop.

Speaking of better choice. Clottey is indeed the better choice as if I could read what Arum and Roach were thinking. If Manny Pacquiao could prove he can handle or even beat Clottey, he can definitely fight in the 154 level. Thats guaranteed. So Clottey, like Cotto who was a training session for Manny to move up to Welter will be a new training sesssion for Manny to move to 154. Unless Manny says, OK, i’m retired, especially if he wins the election ih his hometown.

Pacquiao has improved since the Marquez fight while Marquez is slowly on the down hill(still a good fighter tough).Marquez had two chances to beat Pacquiao – coming close to beating Pacman is as ‘close’ as he will get to beating him.

I agree a Marquez fight would have been great to make it a trilogy, but GBP wasn’t going to let it happen.

I heard reports that they wanted a 50/50 split and still the highly debated drug testing. First off 50/50 is crazy and the drug test insane after what just happened. So GBP killed any chance of this happening.

I do agree that Bradley would have been a interesting selection, but with the amount of time before the fight I still say that Clottey is a good choice.

hahaha..Good Job Rob! Sean enough with the bollocks. I bet you’re either a “American” black boy that’s why you minus Clottey as much.

Sean, if you think Tim Bradley is a better fight than Clottey then you need to write about a sport you know something about!